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Your negative comments last week have awakened the Dick Horn Medicine Men. You've gotta understaaand the culture of Dick Horn Medicine Men! One thing I noticed in all your vids riding the backroads was that there was no roadkill on the side of the roads. There is always roadkill beside US roads and it always struck me as odd that there was no roadkill beside the roads you rode on.
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I grew up in Hong Kong back in the 1970's and did my several trips into China, the first being in 1979 just after the boarder was first opened. I can tell you there were no birds even back then, in fact there were no animals of any kind. Reason being they ate everything they could to survive, pollution hasn't caused this, it was starvation that did it. I did some trips to the food markets at night and animals you would normally see in the wild were there, captured in cages, ready to be eaten. Eagles, monkeys, cats, dogs, snakes, no animal was safe. I think the animal populations never recovered, and now they have the pollution to deal with as well.
my great grandfather use to tell stories during the great depression, his father would be excited when he would see a Deer or Rabbit in the woods because back then, everyone was eating animals and when he saw animals in the wild it was a sign that things where returning to normal with the economy. i wouldn't imagine this happening in a place in the modern world, but here we are
I live in a densely populated area in the US in a city and I’m so happy to see and hear birds and squirrels. Watching them interact is so fascinating and pleasing to me.
Didn't mao declare war on a type of starling, to cover up the ccps disastrous policies that saw tens of millions die from starvation, he blamed them for eating all the grain. I doubt very much there are a 100 million birds 🐦 flying free in China today, I believe their is truth to the narrative that wildlife in most of China was decimated and has not recovered.
@@tedthesailor172abutting suburb of Boston here, we have coyotes and bears.... And of course the usual foxes, turkeys, rabbits, racoons, skunks, possums, etc.
@@vickieadams6648 werd to his parents, all those machines. They realize he could never stray, and if he does he gets melted- or found another job -so it's permissible for them juevos to swing like a solid rock. !The extent that communism goes to make artificial things, instead of taking the time and having the patience to build something solid and fundamental. Will be the shooting in the foot in the end. To me this looks like a comedy club, where they act like they are better than God, and here look at their example they have created for us. So sad epic funny and the irony in the failure .Keep your Turbo World
I lived in China 2 years in 2006, when I asked my host family why there was no wildlife as we were traveling through the country I was no told it was because "if it had wings and wasn't an airplane or had legs and wasn't a table, they ate it." I wonder if that's still something they'd admit to now.
That's just FREAKY!! I've been to Thailand, India and several American states and cannot Imagine not seeing birds and deer everywhere. I currently live in a suburb 25 miles west of Cleveland,, Ohio and it's a town that feels like it was carved out of the wilderness. Just this year, I have seen 2 different kinds of vultures--walking down the sidewalk like People, gray pigeons, groundhogs, rabbits, squirrels, skunks and chipmunks--and I do battle with all of them every Spring [except for the vultures, of course!] The idea that China's youth may never have see the robins, cardinals and blue jays, etc., in person, that we see every year is INSANE...and this being northern Ohio, we get seagulls and Canadian Geese as well.
Yeah, it's super hard for me to comprehend, too.. grew up in the woods in Maryland most of my life, then moved to Washington on the Olympic peninsula, in the middle of absolute nowhere, about 10 years ago. I hear coyotes going crazy every night, and there's always a bunch of birds, squirrels and all that other shit in my yard, every day. Including, my favorite, owls. Not seeing animals... Especially in places like where I live or you live for example,(honestly, anywhere) feels so dystopian to me..
I was in Shanghai in the late 70s through mid 80s. University of Shanghai on a science project. I mentioned the lack of Pigeons, Sparrows, Crows, birds you normally see in any Urban City. I did see a few songbirds that were kept as pets in cages. I was told (in private) that they were all eaten during the revolution. I would guess the air pollution took out any that were left
Many of the birds were genocided by the communist party between 58' and 62'. Especially sparrows were targeted, but all birds really. They tried to exterminate certain species that they viewed as threat to their crops.
I really think pollution and environmental toxins are a more important point. Birds are very susceptible to this and it seems much more believable to me than every trash bird continuing to get eaten. Certain pesticides alone can be detrimental. I think lack of wildlife is the best indication of just how unhealthy it really is in many areas. It's one thing they just can't fake.
@@monabale8263 Well I don't know how much wild life is actually being eaten or what impact it would have but the point is many animals, especially birds, can only handle a fraction of toxins compared to us. This is why miners used to take a canary into coal mines. It would drop dead far before they'd notice a problem with the air supply.
@@KatiTheButcher Which are fast being bought up by the globalists, so we won’t have food anymore. The future is real ugly. Near future... Hope you know Jesus.✝
During my time in China (Wuxi 2018-2021; Xiamen 2021-2022). I remember seeing many fish, frogs, and birds in alley markets; all of them were tightly packed in tanks, fishnets, or cages. It was very disheartening. The only other animals I ever saw outside the markets were pets or the occasional abandoned/stray cats and dogs, of which I took in over a dozen kittens and puppies over the years and found homes for them.
While living in Alhambra CA, when Chinese the moved in the 80’s, many of our cats disappeared. There was a high end restaurant caught serving cat to customers that asked for it in the back gambling room
In Sweden we have a long running program for reintroduction of storks. They are also kept fenced in while growing up in the hopes that they will return there as adults. We still haven't been successful despite the program running for like thirty years, but once every odd year I spot one in the wild. It's a beautiful sight! Migratory wetland birds can be very difficult to reintroduce.
Isn't your country too cold to sustain storks? The Americas have the greatest bio diversity in the world. Yet when European settlers stepped foot on our soils, you were responsible for 95% of the deaths of the populace and that bio diversity. You brought diseases we didn't have, because we didn't domesticate livestock like you. Didn't even ride horses. THIS IS the biggest crime in humanity's history. Don't forget that.
White storks are all over the place in Lithuania, 20k breeding pairs or more and over 100k leaving country every year to spend winters elsewhere. Magnificent birds, makes short work clearing lil pond nearby of frogs
Whoa, serious? That's a shame. It's a national symbol here in Belarus and I can support the claim of the above commenter - there are lots of them around here. Hope, when Belarus becomes free we can have some kind of cooperation organized to help with this program.
Mia do not give up hope keep trying . In the mid 70s they started Hacking Bald Eagles here . Now they are back and i see them numerous times every year . . I saw one yesterday high above my House . Seeing an Eagle will always be special to me because they were scarce when I was growing up .
@@TheRazorTS same in Poland. It’s our unofficial bird of a countryside. They’re called Bocian and are believed to bring baies to the house they settled on ☺️
I was always taken by how few birds I saw in Shanghai. A city that should be awash in sparrows, wild pigeons, and a huge range of birds, but they were fairly rare.
Yea when I moved to Ningbo it was one of the first things I noticed. Can count on one hand the amount of times I saw a wild bird in nearly 2 years living there.
"Birds are allowed if they make money." The fact that something can be living outside and be free is baffling for Chinese. Everything has to be materialistically used or resold for profit in some way.
That's a great observation. Goes to show there's a substantial difference in the way westerners perceive the world vs Chinese. Freedom and independence seems to be foreign concepts to China.
The great famine probably took out a lot of birds due to people hunting them for food and combined with barely any protections in place until it was too late, also combined with poor environmental protections.
Also what you describe is pretty typical for capitalistic societies. The thing is that they typically have more and better protections in place for the environment and wildlife. Though even with those protections, many species have still died off in the Western world regardless and those protections don’t always work or are straight out bent or broken for profit.
This makes sense now. I was in Niagara on the Lake in ontario canada near niagara falls. A tourist bus parks and all the Chinese tourists inside rush out and chase a squirrel with their cameras LOL
Visiting Estes Park, Co and we and other tourists were hand feeding the chipmunks. A month later I read there was a outbreak of Bubonic Plague in the Chipmunks in that area. Darwin at work.
There is video of a Chinese woman feeding a small bird crumbs, until it ventured to close...she caught it and put it into a bag. You just knew she would be eating it at home soon. These were not poor looking asians. Her and her husband looked well dressed. It looked like they were in CENTRAL PARK .
Stunning improvement in your delivery format - no interruption or talking over each other - stylized and organized banter that still seems natural, (it is, I know). Much easier to absorb and recall all your priceless information of your observations all these years been watching and following both of you. Great mature way to present what no one else on the planet is presenting. Kudos al around.
A certain fresh water dolphin native to a large Chinese river, known to be in that river since time immemorial, has become extinct only in the last few decades, due to pollution and other factors such as ships navigating the river and other things.
While living in Beijing in 2013-14 I rarely saw birds of any kind except some ducks on a pond. Their absence made the city even grayer than it already was.
Which do you believe, the green peace documentaries and articles over the past couple of decades which says Beijing is clearing smog by planting trees, or the eyes and ears of people who speak your language and have seen it? This is a trick question.
i'm in canada, and a bird lover. on our front porch we feed 10 different kinds of birds year round, and our newest arrival is a peacock,.. we have no idea where he came from, but he is a regular now. i know my sister would be devastated not having the little feathered friends around. i couldn't imagine not having wild life around, we get bears, deer, elk, racoons, squirrels rabbits, all in our yard. great job on the vid guys! i'll sub!
I live in the US MidWest. We get all those creatures in our yard too. Possums, many owls and bats, frogs, toads, bullfrogs, small annoying rodents, different snakes, insects, my favorite fireflies, butterflies, lunar moths, wild turkeys, beavers, woodchucks, coyotes, no bears or elk though. Amazing variety of birds too. Eagles, herons, ducks, wild geese, buzzards, hawks are the big ones. Epiliated and other smaller woodpeckers, rock doves, crows, blue jays, robins, blue birds, titmice, gold finches, rose finches, orioles, wrens, sparrows, starlings (yuk), chickades, ruby throated hummingbirds, nuthatches, cardinals, juncos, red wing blackbirds, cowbirds, black birds, mockingbirds, grackles, finches and of course a variety of chickens. You can imagine the morning ruckus out here. Even with all that racket, it's so peaceful. Love seeing all that life in the snowy winters too. I live on a small spread with an enormous yard that has never been treated with anything whatsoever. 3 cats and one dog. The air is clear and we have several water sources nr us. Don't have any peacocks!
Do you live in Surrey, B.C? I was astounded one day when I took a shortcut to drop my son off at school and found a whole bunch of peacocks living in a cult de sac. Just wild. Not kept by anyone.
When I was at university in the 80s we had a lake on campus and a flock of ducks. Our security teams were forever chasing off the Chinese students who were attempting to catch a duck to cook it. This happened constantly throughout my three years at university.
between the rampant hunting, the environmental destruction, and pollution I'm shocked there's any wildlife to begin with. birds are very sensative to these problems
It's all a lie. That is why life continues. Open your eyes. You just explained how inconsistent it seems. Question what you think you know. Especially Climate and Environmentalism. There are a ton of victims to keep up the charade. The environment is just fine. Nature is chaos.
I’m guessing you are referencing the world’s ravaging of the rain forests, plains mountains. My country has been assaulted by oil companies in the land and along the coasts. The Amazon is being destroyed as we talk about the Amazon being destroyed for my lifetime and before.
As an Australian who lives in the country I am literally surrounded by wildlife. I walk outside and I can hear birds. It's noisy. But many countries in comparison are silent. France China etc very sad and very bad for the eco systems. Birds eat insects bugs all sorts of things. I have happy birds.
I live in France and it's correct. Pesticides killed the mosquitoes, the birds flew elsewhere to find something to eat. Same story with the large fields for the agriculture. The lack of bushes to hide in forced them to move away. Yet, some people seem to have noticed this problem and reintroduce wild fields and leave them with grown plants to attract insects back, possibly along with the birds. However, fully grown plants, with the global warming problem and ever dryer summer's may contribute to fire spreading.
@@tonerotonero1375Thankyou I always wondered why this happened in France and had jumped to the wrong conclusion. And of course it makes perfect sense. DDT was meant to be the saviour but as Rachel Carson wrote in The Silent Spring it certainly wasn't what was expected. And this is decades on...
If there are no birds then the country should be over run with bugs. Yet there are no insects too. So you have to wonder how much pesticides are being used and throughout the ecosystem. That's why I never buy any produce coming out of China. Especially garlic!
Can absolutely agree to what you say. Wherever I was in China there have been very few birds. I think by two reasons: rural people hunt and eat them. No joke! Even sparrows. I’ve seen it. But mainly because of excessive use of pesticides. Once in the Inner Mongolia in a wetland I wanted to photograph birds. But have been no birds at all. Then realised that there are no insects at all, no mosquitos, no butterflies, nothing. And no frogs, no fishes, nothing. So, the only reason I can think of is pesticides. Since the visitors would complain about the mosquitoes… And that’s what you can see in Shanghai, Beijing … too. They spray huge amounts of pesticides, often in the evening or early morning to not make it too obvious. And then you can find next day here and there a bunch of dead sparrows. Yea, and since people are still keen to see nature and wildlife what they know from pictures and photos from Europe or America some so called nature parks are setup. It’s all fake and a huge disaster for Chinas great country site and nature. Thanks to the CCP and stately control economy why have only one goal: making as money as possible for those in power.
Now that you guys mentioned this I can't remember seeing birds when I visited China during my various trips there for work (pre wuhan pandemic, not planning to return there). Not only birds, there are very few fishes in Yangtze River, the three gorges dam has effectively destroyed the habitats of many species of fish and creatures. Not only that, the stagnation of water promotes algae growth and pumps out 10 times more methane (green house gas that is much worst than carbon dioxide) than normal river. Thanks for this interesting video, and the message.
Never thought about the Algae growth in massive stale water reservoirs 🤨 yet another thing to the pile on things to worry about. Interesting info, thanks bro. Been following climate change since early 1980´s. And already in 1984 we knew that first north America and north Africa would be hit with draught (they are one connected weather system) . Now we are in the age of melting permafrost and the biggest threat to the planet and human civilization. And yet we play stupid military games and wars that contribute 25% of Co2 pollution to the collapsing climate system. Norway next to us have had no water again this year, so no water dam electricity to Denmark where i live. And our wind turbines are not running because the jet stream over the Atlantic ocean have stopped. And after 39 years our gas production platforms had to undergo 3 years of maintenance. We can´t even rely on green energy backup systems because of climate change now. Everything is turning to worse each year. We are running out of time.
@@TrickOrRetreat Wasn’t the Chixulub crater a much bigger threat than permafrost is expected to be? I’m not being a smart Alec, but…do you really think humans will “break” the planet? I totally think we will very likely leave the planet in an UN-livable state, and will end up offing ourselves via our erroneous practices. But…I think the planet will survive. It make take it a few hundred million years to dissolve our junk… What do you think?
@@sendthis9480 No no, it´s a fair question indeed. 56 million years ago, the dinosaurs still ruled the world for another 6 mill years after the comet strike, that´s how long it took to tilt the balance totally in our favor (mammals). Right now we are living in the sixth mass extinction and it´s going faster than the comet strike 56 million years ago. Remember plastic is about to be more plentiful than fish in the Oceans in about 2 decades, and only 120 years from the invention of Bakelite plastic, that´s super fast compared. The Ocean´s can´t absorb more Co2 as we speak, and we have ocean patches larger than Europe where fish have died out because of low oxygen. Plastic patches larger than Europe on top of that problem. That was just fast examples how the oceans are collapsing in real time before our eye´s. The melting tundra is a separate issue just as big as the collapsing ocean´s eco systems. Civilization will collapse into chaos, but we will probably be able to populate the solar system, leaving an almost dead planet behind. But the initial casualties will be 95% of humanity, because no food from the oceans and agriculture = no food for billions of people. It took almost 80 million years for the rainforest to evolve, and in 200-250 million years the continents will all hit each other again into a new Pangea, ripping up the landscape with volcanos and molten lava in all the ripple zones. So time to evolve new intelligent races on Earth is running out. But as you suggest, we will probably survive as a species on colonies around the solar system. But it will be a poor living without the complexity of Earth to inspire us, and show us amazing stuff, that will help us construct new amazing things to advance the human race, so we can finally reach the stars. Also without plants and dirt from earth, humans will die out as a race. Our bodies consist 25% of virus bacteria and fungus. So we actually have to bring massive parts of earths eco system into orbit, so the new born babies don´t die from lack of exposure and interaction with these virus bacteria fungus spores(first time a child put dirt in it´s mouth, the full potential of the immune system gets activated). And to do that we need to work together, so ask yourself. Will we be able to stop all war and lay down arms, to focus all resources on the task at hand saving the human race, by going into space ?. Because the planet is out of time, and the plan needs to be set in motion now, and not in a 100 years when we don´t have access to the resources needed to complete the task.
I'm in Liverpool in Britain. The range of wildlife in what is a bustling port city is amazing. Not just the large numbers of birds but also ground animals that have moved in to the parks and green areas. It saddened me when I watched ADV China a few years ago and saw how the wildlife in China had all but disappeared from the countryside. Keep up the good work guys 👏👏👏
I live over the water and It's a gem of an area tbh. I see the fox at 1am. I see bats in the evening and the parks are full of birds and squirrels (Shame it's not reds but those yank greys are fun). Parks are great in my area and in liverpool. I also have wales 15 minutes from my doo r but the city just as close. I have noticed there isnt as many Starlings on the Mersey as I use to see back in the 80's and 90's. Lairds shipyards use to have huge murmurations of starlings in the evening and the houses were covered in birds nearby. Song thrushes seem a little less numerous too. Maybe they buggered off over to your side?
@@donbunson5031 Woolyback ;) were so lucky in the UK to still have some wildlife due to such a large conservation effort, and a reduction of harsh pesticides.
I'm Australian. We've got loads of wildlife. It's just most of it has a way to kill you if you're not careful. On a more serious note, Singapore is probably one of the most Densely Populated places on Earth. But the Wildlife there is amazing. They've really made the effort to preserve some wetlands, create green corridors, and not pollute the crap out of everything. If you're prepared to spend some money, follow environmental laws, and have a bit of discipline, you can have a city, and nature too. I was last in Liverpool in the early 90's. Sounds like you've cleaned it up a bit since my last visit. I've been thru London several times since then, and it's certainly cleaner and clearer than my first visit.
@@tsubadaikhan6332 yeah nice one. An old friend moved to Noosa on the east coast a while back, he loves it but says the wildlife can be a bit scary. I got to visit Sydney back in '89 but it was a work trip so didn't really get to see too much. Would love to visit Singapore, it looks amazing.
Throughout Northern China the farmers put up monofilament line nets to catch birds which they eat, any bird. Parks are always admission paid and most of the time the natural items such as trees, stone formations, waterfalls, etc. are all made from wire and cement. Trained pigeons are a standard for these places, and yes, they fly in circles and are fed by hand.
Apart from a small snake, lots of rats, mosquitoes and a few spiders I barely saw any wild animals in Chengdu as well. Even outside the city in Sichuan, there was barely any life at all. Chinese friends told me it is due to the polluted rivers and fields. Wild animals don't like it. Also the massive air pollution in China is keeping birds away according to them. They told me in the rural areas of Yunnan and Guanxi, as well as in the mountains of Sichuan it would be much better though.
It's also because they eat most of the animals in the wild. I walked down a road in China once and off to the side, I saw a guy snatch a snake out of a tree. He immediately skinned it and started selling it right there on the street.
@@commonsensecraziness7595 Yeah. Years ago an older Chinese lady who'd immigrated told me how amazed she was when someone took her to Yosemite and up north of San Francisco to a bird flyway. She told me the friend was just as amazed when she told him there was no wildlife in China because it was eaten during all the famines. People always moan about wildlife depredation in Africa but you never hear about China
@@commonsensecraziness7595 Imagine how in-edible Pandas must be for there to still exist some. I reckon the only reason those animals survived the famines and Mao's crazy schemes is by being nigh useless for food or Chinese medicine.
Notice all of them are tagged as well. Also, when they're hunting in the wild, they use their feet to kind of kick up the sediment and get the fish or whatever in the water to come out. And you're right, they would be moving much slower.
Living in Montreal. I was speaking the other day with Chinese peoples in a bird observatory and they looked amazed of how many birds species we have. I asked them if they were touring and how do they like Canadian Nature in general. The answer was staggering and kind of said that Same thing. Our bio diversity is humongous compared to the part of CHINA they're from. ( even the rural area and green areas) Worked a couple of years for a touring bus business. Took group of Chinese people from Montreal and drove them into places like Mont- Tremblant in summer and mostly in falls , when the leaf's turning color around in mountains. You can ear the thousands of pictures they are taking while speaking in their own language you can tell that they never have seeing such a beautiful Natural Decor. Nothing compared to CHINA '' fake Nature '' 🐉
@Schnitzelmesser CHINA: We have panda （1） Ｃａｎａｄａ: We have black bear （0） CHINA: We have golden monkey (1) Ｃａｎａｄａ: We have smelly skunk (0) CHINA: We have tiger (1) Ｃａｎａｄａ: We have wolf (0) CHINA: We have elephant (1) Ｃａｎａｄａ： We have bison (0) CHINA: We have phoenix (1) Ｃａｎａｄａ: We have crows (0) CHINA: 5, Ｃａｎａｄａ：０
Not only DDT but especially mercury and lead contamination has been greatly reduced..... Everyone talks about the DDT, but there was only one college study done on it before that conclusion was reached.... Personally I believe it's the reduction of toxic metals (which coincided with the banning of DDT) that has improved life. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it is that sort of contamination that also plagues china's birds and other wildlife. Edit... But I do agree with your comment about the wonderful return of the large birds... Saw my first hawk about 1978 first eagle in 1981. Now I see hawks and owls all the time (even perched in trees in my yard) and sometimes as many as 6-7 circling hawks at once.
@@kenneth9874 There has been a well documented decline in songbirds. DDT was one problem but there are many others, such as loss of habitat, disease, and cats of course.
There is a great but also terrible video of a man who has gone to the same spot in a forest at the same date, to record the bird sounds for 15 or 20 years. It is almost silent now compared to how it sounded when he started.
For the most part, I agree, Chie-nar does lack the birdlife seen most anywhere else. However, you guys can't say there are no birds in midland. I lived in Fujian for more than three years where I saw many species of beautiful wild birds. Panjang, Liaoning was another location I stayed at for about two and a half years. Another beautiful place with lots of nature, including birds. Even cities like Beijing had flocks of starlings, flying those crazy patterns, along with magpies and a few crows, even some sparrows, swallows...
when I was staying in Shanghai, on my way to the artist residency I was doing, walking from the metro station to the gallery, I picked up a dying sparrow and tried to nurse it back to health- I couldn’t, then, on my way home, and over the following days, I saw about 50 of them falling out of the trees and dying on the sidewalks. It was horrendous. Maybe something to do with the insecticide and weed killer they spay everywhere. Just so devastatingly sad. There are a lot of frogs in china- and I saw lots of birds near yangshao
You would think they get off of the passed of eating anything that walks. China is killing wild life an Endangered around the Globe. Also, illegally steeling/fishing in foreign wasters of the coats of nation's. They even went to the extreme of Cannibalism. This has had a phycological effects an was passed down as Tradition with likes if dog eating as well. Some of these folks have demonic beings in them. Once you open up a door beyond sanity? You invite filthy spirit's in you're body. China has Judgments coming.
Lots of frogs? Wow so that means that their natural predators (snakes etc) are NOT doing good in that location . Which begs the question, what is the large impact and large scale picture of the effects on the entire ecosystem
In the early 90's I was in the Philippines, and I stayed overnight in a house in Manila, and the next morning when I woke up to travel to the Province, I heard no birds. Not one bird sound did I hear it was ERRIE. I live in Hawaii and I always hear birds when I wake up in the morning all through out the day till the sun sets. Have a taste of that.
the only birds in manila ive seen or heard are the roosters that people kept. they woke me up every damn day at 4am and it made me want to eradicate roosters
@@j.b.3387 Barely any in Metro Manila. Haven't seen mayas here for 10 years, or I just didn't notice them. It's another story outside of the region though.
I think a major reason for little wildlife is that for decades under Mao, people would eat wild life all the time and sell them in wet markets. It continued until 2002 when SARS broke out and they began regulating wet markets but even then, the practice still continued in smaller scale then 2020 COVID happened.
I spent a couple of weeks in Sanya, Hainan province for work back in 2011. This was a coastal fishing town. It took me a few days to figure out what was wrong. No seagulls following the fishing boats. Once I made this realisation and I pointed it out to my colleagues we all had an oh F#$k moment.
Hainan is such a creepy place. I went running on the beach there during a work trip and I couldn’t put my finger on why it felt like the most desolate beach on earth… I don’t believe I saw a single bird.
Explains why Chinese tourist visiting an American national park, stroll up to a wild animal, such as a bison or bear, and are befuddled when they get attacked and seriously injured !
You would think they get off of the passed of eating anything that walks. China is killing wild life an Endangered around the Globe. Also, illegally steeling/fishing in foreign wasters of the coats of nation's. They even went to the extreme of Cannibalism. This has had a phycological effects an was passed down as Tradition with likes if dog eating as well. Some of these folks have demonic beings in them. Once you open up a door beyond sanity? You invite filthy spirit's in you're body. China has Judgments coming.
This is pretty accurate and it is true when I think back whenever I go back to visit my parents. No bird poo on cars. No seagulls stealing food. No birds on sidewalks. No squirrels, etc.
Good job, guys. I witnessed this bizarre spectacle firsthand when I lived in Qiqihaer for a year. At the time, I was with some friends that were visiting from back home (Australia). We saw the birds being herded over that hill with those long sticks. We knew that they were kept in cages. A local friend took us out there in a 面包车 (minivan). One of my friends who works in security noted that there were surveillance cameras at regular intervals along the road to the wetlands. We also couldn't help but notice the cameras positioned along the boardwalk, so that you could not go anywhere without being monitored.
Ya I am fortunate to live next to and nearby several wetlands,recently have had Florida sand cranes visit Beautiful huge birds,I wake up to the sounds of nature every morning and I'm so grateful.
Spent 14 years in China and noticed very few birds in Chongqing inthe first year, where I spent most of my time and I travelled widely all over the country during those years and did see and experience more birdlife in urban and rural regions. But nowhere near a many as I see at home. Birdlovers keep caged birds and meet in parks and green places to chat and give thier birds some fresh air in green space.
I guess you never heard of the "The Four Pests campaign (Chinese: 除四害; pinyin: Chú Sì Hài), was one of the first actions taken in the Great Leap Forward in China from 1958 to 1962. The four pests to be eliminated were rats, flies, mosquitoes, and sparrows. The extermination of sparrows is also known as the smash sparrows campaign (Chinese: 打麻雀运动; pinyin: dǎ máquè yùndòng) or eliminate sparrows campaign (Chinese: 消灭麻雀运动; pinyin: xiāomiè máquè yùndòng), which resulted in severe ecological imbalance, being one of the causes of the Great Chinese Famine." They probably killed more than sparrows like all birds that could feed on crops.
the sparrows controlled the locusts. once the sparrows were gone, the locusts eat the crops. This was a contributing factor to the great famine in which up to 25 million people died
china's lack of wild life is a throwback to the late 1950s when millions and millions of chinese citizens were starving as a result of Zedong's utterly catastrophic social policies. In their pitiful desperation for food, everything got eaten by the populace; literally everything including grass and bark and even soil. china's ecological legacy is a dearth of natural flora and fauna made worse by decades of uncontrolled pollution and land mismanagement.
You would think they get off of the passed of eating anything that walks. China is killing wild life an Endangered around the Globe. Also, illegally steeling/fishing in foreign wasters of the coats of nation's. They even went to the extreme of Cannibalism. This has had a phycological effects an was passed down as Tradition with likes of dog eating as well. Some of these folks have demonic beings in them. Once you open up a door beyond sanity? You invite filthy spirit's in you're body. China has Judgments coming.
I've been wondering if it's even possible for china's ecosystems (soil toxicity, fresh water quality etc) to ever recover. It would take many years -- and even then it would require most of the population to be gone. I'm really wondering how much they are permanently poisoning the rest of the world.
My husband is a cop in a European capital city. Routinely has to deal with non western em.. long term visitors trying to 'hunt' wildlife. Swans are a particular favourite, apparently. There is also a program warning the non locals that pigeons and seagulls are NOT safe to eat. We have a lot of designated urban wildlife sites, and it's a huge problem, especially with the protected species of birds and small furrys.
I live in Florida and we have plenty of large white cranes. They are certainly NOT timid. They will stand in the middle of the road not even afraid of the cars. You have to drive around them. Sometimes they’ll congregate in a parking lot and they won’t move for the cars there either. You’ll have to drive around them again.
tell me about it... I came out of a store to find one on the hood of my car and it wouldn't leave! I drove around with it for several minutes while people pointed and laughed. it eventually decided when it had enough and flew away.
You would think they get off of the passed of eating anything that walks. China is killing wild life an Endangered around the Globe. Also, illegally steeling/fishing in foreign wasters of the coats of nation's. They even went to the extreme of Cannibalism. This has had a phycological effects an was passed down as Tradition with likes if dog eating as well. Some of these folks have demonic beings in them. Once you open up a door beyond sanity? You invite filthy spirit's in you're body. China has Judgments coming.
Yea, in high school during a driver's education class a group of sandhill cranes dropped in on our vehicles. It's like they knew they're a protected species and were daring us to hit them 😕
In my village, which is almost bigger than some cities in terms of area it covers, there are people that live in the hills and rarely come down to "civilization". When i was little i went in the hills with my dad to buy some sheep meat from them. I noticed there arent birds flying or anywhere in the trees. I asked my dad why ist that. He responded:"Because they ate them all." That stuck with me. I do not think they ate them all but the birds learned to stay away.
They never said why there's no birds in China, the title should've been more like *we found out why there are some birds in China.* But if you kill them all, eat the rest because of TCM or being poor than there won't be any birds it don't take a genius to figure out and let's not forget the pollution and non drinkable water
Before i watched the video i was actually able to look up the "Zhalong National Nature Reserve" and scrolling through google maps satellite view i found those cages also that yall are talking about in @ 17:30. Once you know to look in the Zhalong Reserve its pretty easy to spot the cages.
That is happening here in Northern California..... I have 2 acres full of fruit trees, I used to have to use stuff to scare birds away from the fruit of my trees. Past 2 years, i don't need to do that any more. .... NO more monarch butterflies, no dragonflies, and no more grasshoppers.
went to China in 2013 for a school trip and was told by a tour guide there wasn't any birds because people caught and ate them, hadn't even occurred to me that i didn't see any
That is something I noticed immediately when living in Tianjin from 1989-1991, the only birds I saw were in cages carried by old men to a town meeting place. At first I thought well yes this was a foreign concession and there were buildings and buildings with their own concrete gateways to their own concessions so not very many trees, lots of concrete. But I noticed that in Shanghai, again a foreign concession, but much more "open", and in Beijing (I call Beijing a concrete jungle) where were the birds? Even in some of the parks in Tianjin, where I would come across slabs of marble that old men used to bring their ping-pong equipment with them,-net, paddles, screw-in anchors, ping-pong balls. I remember, and I was not that bad at ping-pong, getting my ass kicked by a 90 year old man. But where were the birds?
Thanks heaps for this guys. How sad, that so many people had to resort to that. Makes me feel so fortunate to live where I live. The birdlife is prolific here and the birdsong where I live in EDEN Australia, is so loud, it could nearly wake the dead.
TAKE HEED! This is what happens in a society that focuses mostly on economic growth and HUMAN prosperity. Teddy Roosevelt once said, 'Our nation's great forests are our greatest assets' or something similar, and I still couldn't agree more to this day. Teach your children that wildlife and fauna are among THE most important aspects of our lives. We ALL have to become CONSERVATIONISTS! When we turn our heads or only look inwards, species go extinct, and what was once a variation of beauty becomes fodder for the cockroaches and the beetles. Not that they aren't beautiful too, but they become nasty ugly when that's all there is.
Yeah I dunno chief, take it with a grain of salt, I remember seeing this video and decided to remember to pay attention when I visit China for a business trip. Well that's today, and there's literally loud ass birds everywhere, and it reminded me to revisit this video. I dunno how they're making such wide sweeping statements when so far, these loud ass birds are clear as day, very present and I'm watching them with my own eyes, right now. I'm deciding to film it that's how many there are in this damn tree.
@@jimw1997 Very good point!! As I have never been there! It should be something like: watching something on TH-cam about China not discovering something "bizarre" would be more bizarre. Thank you for pointing that out!
Interesting exposé which is consistent with everything I’ve learned about China. However, unless I missed something, I still don’t know why there are no birds in China.
Short version: China had some well-intentioned but seriously misguided environmental policies in the 50s which utterly fucked the ecology over much of the country.
The Four Pests campaign in the 50s - an organised effort to exterminate sparrows in all of China. The intention wasn't bad, but the science was - farmers at the time regarded the sparrow as a pest for eating grain, and the government had serious concerns about the ability to feed the rapidly expanding population if they didn't do everything possible to improve agricultural yield. No-one thought to ask any actual ecologists though - China at the time being highly distrustful of academics in general - who would have pointed out that sparrows also eat a lot of pest insects. In parallel, another campaign tried to exterminate rats and disease-carrying insects by intensive use of poisons. By the time the ill-conceived campaign was over, the ecology over much of China was devastated, and never recovered.
Distrust of academics... sounds like the US today. Reagan destroyed affordable college education and right wingers have been demonizing and defunding education ever since.
6:00 this isn’t just in China, in Japan there’s a common motorized sign that looks like a person waving a light stick to direct traffic. There was a study and it was found this person shaped sign got people to slow down and switch lanes much more effectively than just a sign. In the US I’ve seen late at night in rural areas when I used to drive from Chicago to Texas for work and weekends at home… I would see empty police cars with their lights on flashing. I pulled over and looked around and no one in sight, it’s just a cheap way to get people to slow down
I also live in the states and we had a police car that kept moving to New locations but always had a cardboard cutout in the driver's seat. Also seen a plywood cutout of a police car used for speed reduction. Psychological warfare coming on strong
I can attest to how timid those kinds of birds are, having tried to approach Herons in Quebec many times. Just goes to show how messed with these Cranes are for hanging so close to crowds of people.
Je demeure en face d'un lac et j'ai la chance d'avoir des hérons bleus à chaque année. Ils font des nids énormes dans la cime des arbres ici sur mon terrain. À chaque année le même couple revient. Je sais pas si ce sont toujours les mêmes mais probablement. J'ai aussi des outardes, canards sauvages et oies blanches. Des huards viennent ici quelques fois mais ils ne restent pas.
Here in Western Canada my city has many varieties of wild birds, especially sparrows, starlings, California quail, Canada geese. If these were in rural China I am sure that they would be on their dinner plate.
Back in 2009 when I visited China (Suzhou area), we made the same observation: no birds. Like ZERO birds that we could see in about 4 days. The only birds we've seen were fake ones. The hotel was looking out onto a fairly decent size lake (a "hand made" lake, we were told) and there were several bird figurines sitting on the railing of a platform belonging to the hotel and looking out onto the lake. In almost any place in the world, if you are near water, you ALWAYS see birds.
TY guys for making stuff like this public. I remember, that somewhere in China they had an icebear in a mall in a very small ~20 m² cage. This is so messed up, ugh....
It's actually super sad to see how disconnected from nature humanity has become. You cannot wait in a spot and pinpoint the exact time a specific bird type is gonna arrive, how are these people falling for this. I have a garden filled with trees and bushes etc. and every fall and spring, different types of bird come in and hang out here for a couple of days every year. Only 2-3 bird species are consistent, the rest is totally random. Sometimes the consistently visiting species even don't arrive, because they most likely fly through another path. The only bird that never skipped a beat were hoopoes, that's most likely because we live on a side of a mountain, which is their nesting ground. But man, watching people eat this shit up without even flinching is just absolutely disgusting.
Speak only for yourself with certainty. I am more connected with nature now than ever. It's God's gift to us, and that is truly worth loving and appreciating.
I was fortunate to partake in a paleontologial excavation in Southern Germany. My camp was on a field. I was amazed of how much wildlife I've seen, from falcons carrying prey, bunnies exiting their burrows, sleeping field mice and storks landing on our tent.
I couldnt imagine not seeing any critters, i see everything from squirrels to feral parrots and even doves and all sorts of bugs where i live, and my community is a developed suburb.
I saw a old Chinese tourist pick up and kill two pigeons and put them in a grocery bag before getting arrested in Los Angeles. She apparently was gonna eat them.
Much like when Reagan pushed all the Hmong refugees on the State of California, they decimated ALL small game in the Southern Sierra Nevada Foothills, DISGUSTING EVIL MINDSET!
My parents both spent a lot of time (pharma) in China in the early 2000s and my mom noticed the lack of birds IMMEDIATELY and it was part of why she absolutely hated China.
@@HistoricalWeapons Wrong, they lived in china for 15 years,they know what they are talking about,a lot of those birds were caught and eaten because the Chinese people were starving.All Facts so go shill somewhere else.
@@sheilacoulton775 dude. If there is one bird in china, their statement would be false. Just saying. It’s clear the intention here is clickbait and there’s nothing wrong with it. I’m a content creator myself
I grew up in NYC and we had tons of birds, even hawks. I had a backyard and used to feed them. I’m in rural PA now and have lots of wildlife around me.
Wow! At first I was like what am I listening/watching! Then I see how you were explaining how everything is a façade. Which then brought you around to the birds whom are a façade as well! Really good content!
That’s wild. Now I am thinking about my time in China. It was 10 years ago. And I am trying to think if I saw birds now. Lol But I traveled through out rural China. And I didn’t see any wildlife. Geez.
When I was there about the same time, there were plenty of birds. Perhaps not quite as many as in the US, but there wasn't much of shortage. There were a completely different set of birds than the ones we have in the US, but I never noticed any significant shortage.
@@server1ok lol... people in the US do not eat songbirds. If you think Birds are not common in the US you aren't paying attention. In my backyard every summer I host a hundred pairs of purple martins alone. That's on a half acre. Including a paranestic bluebirds three pairs of tree swallows a pair of Eastern Thebes a pair of chickadees and a pair of flickers. All using Nest box on a half acre. If there weren't territorial requirements for these birds I would have more of them
The attitude of the Party towards birds was once unimaginably extreme. See the Wikipedia article on the "Four Pests campaign", part of which was the "Smash Sparrows campaign." Yep, sparrows. The stu pidly cruel idea led to locusts swarming the country. Ah, one-party rule. Constant misadventures, the people kept unaware of nearly all of them (unlike Smash Sparrows, which there was no choice but to cancel publicly).
When growing up here in California, I would see my friend's grandmother (Chinese) trapping sparrows and other birds. Basically that would be part of their dinner. I couldn't eat them. My friend said that this was common for them.
When I was working in the New Zealand Embassy in the mid 1970s I learned that during one of the agricultural programs being run by the communist party cadres during the 1960s they decided that birds ate too much of the grain and seeds from the crops, so they decided to kill all of the birds and they were successful. It was only when the next harvest failed that they realised that the birds actually ate the insects that ate the crops and now the insect numbers were unchecked. The result was a famine that killed about 30 million people. Whenever the communist party cadres embarked on special programs millions of people starved. Because of these famines there was a huge toll on the wildlife. Rewi Alley told me that the famine that followed the Great Leap Forward was huge and "that there was not a blade of grass to be seen because they had eaten every last one.
@@monabale8263 Starvation is used by socialists and communists to control the people and the next round is global and planned to happen very soon and that is why they have been carpeting New Zealand with 1080 poison which kills all animals it comes into contact with, and this has been done so that when the planned food shortages hit home and people go looking for food in the forests they won't find any.
I was in the 8th grade in 1968 when I heard the story of no birds in China. A story like that never leaves you. It is so strange and extreme you never foget it. At the time there was no reason given. But now...I know, thanks to you guys.
Mao Zedong was a founder of CCP in 1949. His "Great Leap Forward" plan to industrialize the nation started around 1958 and resulted in a huge famine that killed millions.
Mao Zedong was a founder of CCP in 1949. His "Great Leap Forward" plan to industrialize the nation started around 1958 and resulted in a huge famine that killed millions.
Hey guys I live up in harbin. I love the place. It’s weather is always a surprise. They have those fake things everywhere. It’s actually funny, they have them in the weirdest places. I also visited the crane area and boy do they inflate it. We visited it and we were lucky to see them. That area is outside the sanctuary. But, your right they tote these things like it’s insane. That museum is actually closed at the moment so do not know what’s inside. But it is horrible. I also laughed when you said natural and I saw them myself.
As I said, The Four Pests Campaign was one of these drives, part of the Great Leap Forward between 1958 and 1962. Killing all the sparrows was part of this campaign
In my city, we've been encouraging falcons to live downtown for pigeon control for decades. In recent years, we've had a nesting pair of bald eagles by the river. There is always some excitement in the spring when ppl make the first sightings of eggs in the nest. In the past year or two, I think we've picked up a couple more pairs. Heck, I've seen redtailed hawks and great horned owls fighting off crows trying to steal their kills in mid flight, right in my suburban backyard. I've seen Canada geese and sea gulls have raging "tiffs" in the Wal-Mart parking lot. I have hummingbirds and 3 types of woodpecker outside my kitchen window. Sad. Very, very sad.
Zhalong Nature Reserve, Qiqihar, Heilongjiang, China (47.2089282, 124.238567) Edit: Satellite image at 16:57 I suspect you may be able to see the cages directly while standing on the extreme left or extreme right of the viewing platform. Also appears to be a well worn path from the left side of the dirt bank to the cages behind.
When I was a kid I used to fish at a pond by my house and I would chuck little bluegills I caught at sandhill cranes that would be chilling by me and they would eat them whole and I thought it was awesome. Hopefully I didn't ruin their hunting skills lol.
Its kind of tragic in a way that someone from edwardian england could relate to. Here in ohio we get some really big wild turkeys, not the plump things you see on the farms, like 3 foot tall birds of muscle and feathers and they flock and attack you if you get too close
@@curiositycloset2359 That era of British history is probably the closest direct comparison to current-day China: immediately post-industrialization, a much more even level of prosperity, urban life about as cosmopolitan as you could get, but the economy was teetering on the brink of implosion (particularly in the manufacturing sector) with hilariously high rates of capital flight, right as the commoners started to have that collective horrified realization of just how fucked they were getting by their own government. And then things got REALLY interesting when World War 1 kicked off a few years in.
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When are you guys going to provide some solutions and predictions for the fall of the Communist Party?
I don't use a VPN. It defeats the purpose of freedom of speech.
Your negative comments last week have awakened the Dick Horn Medicine Men. You've gotta understaaand the culture of Dick Horn Medicine Men! One thing I noticed in all your vids riding the backroads was that there was no roadkill on the side of the roads. There is always roadkill beside US roads and it always struck me as odd that there was no roadkill beside the roads you rode on.
The birds are in reeducation camps, learning life skills, basic mandarin, and party doctrines.
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Have they been forcibly sterilized too? That Comment made me laugh!
I grew up in Hong Kong back in the 1970's and did my several trips into China, the first being in 1979 just after the boarder was first opened. I can tell you there were no birds even back then, in fact there were no animals of any kind. Reason being they ate everything they could to survive, pollution hasn't caused this, it was starvation that did it. I did some trips to the food markets at night and animals you would normally see in the wild were there, captured in cages, ready to be eaten. Eagles, monkeys, cats, dogs, snakes, no animal was safe. I think the animal populations never recovered, and now they have the pollution to deal with as well.
my great grandfather use to tell stories during the great depression, his father would be excited when he would see a Deer or Rabbit in the woods because back then, everyone was eating animals and when he saw animals in the wild it was a sign that things where returning to normal with the economy.
i wouldn't imagine this happening in a place in the modern world, but here we are
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What a load.
What kind of people eat eagles? Grow rice, vegetables, etc. This is why Covid19 started in China.
Cannables, they wil people next, n crickets
I live in a densely populated area in the US in a city and I’m so happy to see and hear birds and squirrels. Watching them interact is so fascinating and pleasing to me.
Didn't mao declare war on a type of starling, to cover up the ccps disastrous policies that saw tens of millions die from starvation, he blamed them for eating all the grain.
I doubt very much there are a 100 million birds 🐦 flying free in China today, I believe their is truth to the narrative that wildlife in most of China was decimated and has not recovered.
In one late night 3-mile walk through the suburbs of London, England, I counted 14 foxes...
@@tedthesailor172abutting suburb of Boston here, we have coyotes and bears.... And of course the usual foxes, turkeys, rabbits, racoons, skunks, possums, etc.
@@vapeurdepisse Yes, well, I also got chased by a rhinoceros, but I didn't want to give people the wrong impression...
@@tedthesailor172 LOL I'm not joking
A flying bird is a symbol of freedom. The lack of flying birds symbolizes the absence of it.
Good analogy!
I like it! I would just make a small amendment from lack to absence again if in fact there are no birds in China.
Great observation. I'm stunned that they gave Megatron cajones in a place where everyone has been castrated.
@@vickieadams6648 werd to his parents, all those machines. They realize he could never stray, and if he does he gets melted- or found another job -so it's permissible for them juevos to swing like a solid rock. !The extent that communism goes to make artificial things, instead of taking the time and having the patience to build something solid and fundamental. Will be the shooting in the foot in the end. To me this looks like a comedy club, where they act like they are better than God, and here look at their example they have created for us. So sad epic funny and the irony in the failure .Keep your Turbo World
Welcome all western people who hate china. Here our American hero fighting the Chinese again. Spread all the bad stuff from China, even sci-fi stuff
I lived in China 2 years in 2006, when I asked my host family why there was no wildlife as we were traveling through the country I was no told it was because "if it had wings and wasn't an airplane or had legs and wasn't a table, they ate it." I wonder if that's still something they'd admit to now.
Even the bark of trees
Anything with its back to the sky
That's the truth. These people were starved to death by Mao. They ate anything that didn't kill them. Whole ecosystem was destroyed
That was my thought exactly. Something about Chinese ppl as a whole really reads demonic for some reason. Something’s not right over there
Is this a culture or poverty problem , or a combination of both?
That's just FREAKY!! I've been to Thailand, India and several American states and cannot Imagine not seeing birds and deer everywhere. I currently live in a suburb 25 miles west of Cleveland,, Ohio and it's a town that feels like it was carved out of the wilderness. Just this year, I have seen 2 different kinds of vultures--walking down the sidewalk like People, gray pigeons, groundhogs, rabbits, squirrels, skunks and chipmunks--and I do battle with all of them every Spring [except for the vultures, of course!] The idea that China's youth may never have see the robins, cardinals and blue jays, etc., in person, that we see every year is INSANE...and this being northern Ohio, we get seagulls and Canadian Geese as well.
Canadian Geese ..hey that's our Air Force we send out! 🇨🇦
Hearing seagulls when I first visited northern Ohio was pleasantly surprising.
Yeah, it's super hard for me to comprehend, too.. grew up in the woods in Maryland most of my life, then moved to Washington on the Olympic peninsula, in the middle of absolute nowhere, about 10 years ago. I hear coyotes going crazy every night, and there's always a bunch of birds, squirrels and all that other shit in my yard, every day. Including, my favorite, owls. Not seeing animals... Especially in places like where I live or you live for example,(honestly, anywhere) feels so dystopian to me..
I was in Shanghai in the late 70s through mid 80s. University of Shanghai on a science project. I mentioned the lack of Pigeons, Sparrows, Crows, birds you normally see in any Urban City. I did see a few songbirds that were kept as pets in cages. I was told (in private) that they were all eaten during the revolution. I would guess the air pollution took out any that were left
Many of the birds were genocided by the communist party between 58' and 62'. Especially sparrows were targeted, but all birds really. They tried to exterminate certain species that they viewed as threat to their crops.
Yep eaten. Plus Air pollution and toxic rivers.
I really think pollution and environmental toxins are a more important point. Birds are very susceptible to this and it seems much more believable to me than every trash bird continuing to get eaten. Certain pesticides alone can be detrimental. I think lack of wildlife is the best indication of just how unhealthy it really is in many areas. It's one thing they just can't fake.
@@JJFX- shouldn't lots of people be dropping dead from eating toxic wildlife?
random thought...
@@monabale8263 Well I don't know how much wild life is actually being eaten or what impact it would have but the point is many animals, especially birds, can only handle a fraction of toxins compared to us. This is why miners used to take a canary into coal mines. It would drop dead far before they'd notice a problem with the air supply.
My son lived in Qingdao near the beach for a year in 2007. There were no birds anywhere and he had been told that they had all been eaten!
I believe it.
it china
birds are delicious havent you ever eaten chicken.
@@codysmith605 sure that's why we need farms.
@@KatiTheButcher Which are fast being bought up by the globalists, so we won’t have food anymore.
The future is real ugly. Near future...
Hope you know Jesus.✝
During my time in China (Wuxi 2018-2021; Xiamen 2021-2022). I remember seeing many fish, frogs, and birds in alley markets; all of them were tightly packed in tanks, fishnets, or cages. It was very disheartening. The only other animals I ever saw outside the markets were pets or the occasional abandoned/stray cats and dogs, of which I took in over a dozen kittens and puppies over the years and found homes for them.
cats eat birds. dogs chase squirrels.
we have an imbalance.
Then the people you gave them to eventually ate them .
While living in Alhambra CA, when Chinese the moved in the 80’s, many of our cats disappeared. There was a high end restaurant caught serving cat to customers that asked for it in the back gambling room
In Sweden we have a long running program for reintroduction of storks. They are also kept fenced in while growing up in the hopes that they will return there as adults. We still haven't been successful despite the program running for like thirty years, but once every odd year I spot one in the wild. It's a beautiful sight!
Migratory wetland birds can be very difficult to reintroduce.
Isn't your country too cold to sustain storks? The Americas have the greatest bio diversity in the world. Yet when European settlers stepped foot on our soils, you were responsible for 95% of the deaths of the populace and that bio diversity. You brought diseases we didn't have, because we didn't domesticate livestock like you. Didn't even ride horses. THIS IS the biggest crime in humanity's history. Don't forget that.
White storks are all over the place in Lithuania, 20k breeding pairs or more and over 100k leaving country every year to spend winters elsewhere. Magnificent birds, makes short work clearing lil pond nearby of frogs
Whoa, serious? That's a shame. It's a national symbol here in Belarus and I can support the claim of the above commenter - there are lots of them around here. Hope, when Belarus becomes free we can have some kind of cooperation organized to help with this program.
Mia do not give up hope keep trying . In the mid 70s they started Hacking Bald Eagles here . Now they are back and i see them numerous times every year . . I saw one yesterday high above my House . Seeing an Eagle will always be special to me because they were scarce when I was growing up .
@@TheRazorTS same in Poland. It’s our unofficial bird of a countryside. They’re called Bocian and are believed to bring baies to the house they settled on ☺️
I was always taken by how few birds I saw in Shanghai. A city that should be awash in sparrows, wild pigeons, and a huge range of birds, but they were fairly rare.
They all went to meet their dinosaur ancestors lol. Ever heard Chinese eat anything that walk???
@@magahongkong4664 anything that walks woks
@@magahongkong4664 birds fly,
magatards walk and drag their knuckles.
Yea when I moved to Ningbo it was one of the first things I noticed. Can count on one hand the amount of times I saw a wild bird in nearly 2 years living there.
The People Eat Them bud.
This makes me sad for the birds but I can't imagine not seeing birds or hearing them...I hear them every morning when I wake up!
"Birds are allowed if they make money."
The fact that something can be living outside and be free is baffling for Chinese. Everything has to be materialistically used or resold for profit in some way.
Ah, good old communism . They hate capitalism but they fake, steal or copy anything to make a buck .
Britain not so different.
That's a great observation. Goes to show there's a substantial difference in the way westerners perceive the world vs Chinese. Freedom and independence seems to be foreign concepts to China.
The great famine probably took out a lot of birds due to people hunting them for food and combined with barely any protections in place until it was too late, also combined with poor environmental protections.
Also what you describe is pretty typical for capitalistic societies. The thing is that they typically have more and better protections in place for the environment and wildlife. Though even with those protections, many species have still died off in the Western world regardless and those protections don’t always work or are straight out bent or broken for profit.
This makes sense now. I was in Niagara on the Lake in ontario canada near niagara falls. A tourist bus parks and all the Chinese tourists inside rush out and chase a squirrel with their cameras LOL
I guess they were hungry. 🤣
Visiting Estes Park, Co and we and other tourists were hand feeding the chipmunks. A month later I read there was a outbreak of Bubonic Plague in the Chipmunks in that area. Darwin at work.
There is video of a Chinese woman feeding a small bird crumbs, until it ventured to close...she caught it and put it into a bag. You just knew she would be eating it at home soon. These were not poor looking asians. Her and her husband looked well dressed. It looked like they were in CENTRAL PARK .
Nothing wrong with taking pics of nature. You do realise some species only inhabit certain areas of the world right?
@@JB-yb4wn They are always hungry, if the meal is for free ;)
Thanks!
My back yard is a warzone between an army of squirrels and squadrons of birds defending their nests. In China I could probably sell tickets.
Here also, i planted a lor of fruit trees and trees with berries some years Ago. I seem to have created a warzone
Cat dog bluejays crows possums, no squirrels would survive here.
Got any rabbits? 🐇 There's two that seem to live part time in my backyard, though I haven't seen them in awhile now
They'll come with knives and woks.
@domcom fermi They're the human equivalent of locusts. 😂
Stunning improvement in your delivery format - no interruption or talking over each other - stylized and organized banter that still seems natural, (it is, I know). Much easier to absorb and recall all your priceless information of your observations all these years been watching and following both of you. Great mature way to present what no one else on the planet is presenting. Kudos al around.
True indeed - a lot of folks should take an example ! Communication is so fucked up these days pardon my French 😂
This format allows them to recycle their old videos from when they lived in China.
A certain fresh water dolphin native to a large Chinese river, known to be in that river since time immemorial, has become extinct only in the last few decades, due to pollution and other factors such as ships navigating the river and other things.
While living in Beijing in 2013-14 I rarely saw birds of any kind except some ducks on a pond. Their absence made the city even grayer than it already was.
the north of china lacks water， and the city lacks trees and living space. actually, wildlife is a kind of luxury food preferred by the officers
Which do you believe, the green peace documentaries and articles over the past couple of decades which says Beijing is clearing smog by planting trees, or the eyes and ears of people who speak your language and have seen it? This is a trick question.
That's a shame, especially when you realize that even densely populated cities like New York and Chicago have pigeons and squirrels!
i'm in canada, and a bird lover. on our front porch we feed 10 different kinds of birds year round, and our newest arrival is a peacock,.. we have no idea where he came from, but he is a regular now. i know my sister would be devastated not having the little feathered friends around. i couldn't imagine not having wild life around, we get bears, deer, elk, racoons, squirrels rabbits, all in our yard. great job on the vid guys! i'll sub!
I live in the US MidWest. We get all those creatures in our yard too. Possums, many owls and bats, frogs, toads, bullfrogs, small annoying rodents, different snakes, insects, my favorite fireflies, butterflies, lunar moths, wild turkeys, beavers, woodchucks, coyotes, no bears or elk though. Amazing variety of birds too. Eagles, herons, ducks, wild geese, buzzards, hawks are the big ones. Epiliated and other smaller woodpeckers, rock doves, crows, blue jays, robins, blue birds, titmice, gold finches, rose finches, orioles, wrens, sparrows, starlings (yuk), chickades, ruby throated hummingbirds, nuthatches, cardinals, juncos, red wing blackbirds, cowbirds, black birds, mockingbirds, grackles, finches and of course a variety of chickens. You can imagine the morning ruckus out here. Even with all that racket, it's so peaceful. Love seeing all that life in the snowy winters too. I live on a small spread with an enormous yard that has never been treated with anything whatsoever. 3 cats and one dog. The air is clear and we have several water sources nr us.
Don't have any peacocks!
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@@TheInsultInvestor so you'd rather they be extinct,.. move to china.
Do you live in Surrey, B.C? I was astounded one day when I took a shortcut to drop my son off at school and found a whole bunch of peacocks living in a cult de sac. Just wild. Not kept by anyone.
@@rosetealatte9282 i'm on on vancouver island. it's just one so far that we've seen.
When I was at university in the 80s we had a lake on campus and a flock of ducks. Our security teams were forever chasing off the Chinese students who were attempting to catch a duck to cook it. This happened constantly throughout my three years at university.
Peking Duck, ya'll!!
between the rampant hunting, the environmental destruction, and pollution I'm shocked there's any wildlife to begin with. birds are very sensative to these problems
It's all a lie. That is why life continues. Open your eyes. You just explained how inconsistent it seems. Question what you think you know. Especially Climate and Environmentalism. There are a ton of victims to keep up the charade. The environment is just fine. Nature is chaos.
I’m guessing you are referencing the world’s ravaging of the rain forests, plains mountains. My country has been assaulted by oil companies in the land and along the coasts. The Amazon is being destroyed as we talk about the Amazon being destroyed for my lifetime and before.
As an Australian who lives in the country I am literally surrounded by wildlife. I walk outside and I can hear birds. It's noisy. But many countries in comparison are silent. France China etc very sad and very bad for the eco systems. Birds eat insects bugs all sorts of things. I have happy birds.
I live in New Brunswick Canada we have lots of birds here but not as many as we did in the '70s
I live in France and it's correct. Pesticides killed the mosquitoes, the birds flew elsewhere to find something to eat. Same story with the large fields for the agriculture. The lack of bushes to hide in forced them to move away. Yet, some people seem to have noticed this problem and reintroduce wild fields and leave them with grown plants to attract insects back, possibly along with the birds. However, fully grown plants, with the global warming problem and ever dryer summer's may contribute to fire spreading.
@@tonerotonero1375Thankyou I always wondered why this happened in France and had jumped to the wrong conclusion. And of course it makes perfect sense. DDT was meant to be the saviour but as Rachel Carson wrote in The Silent Spring it certainly wasn't what was expected. And this is decades on...
If there are no birds then the country should be over run with bugs. Yet there are no insects too. So you have to wonder how much pesticides are being used and throughout the ecosystem. That's why I never buy any produce coming out of China. Especially garlic!
What kind of hunting seasons do yall have over? Just wondering from an American who lives in the country lol
Can absolutely agree to what you say. Wherever I was in China there have been very few birds.
I think by two reasons: rural people hunt and eat them. No joke! Even sparrows. I’ve seen it.
But mainly because of excessive use of pesticides.
Once in the Inner Mongolia in a wetland I wanted to photograph birds. But have been no birds at all. Then realised that there are no insects at all, no mosquitos, no butterflies, nothing. And no frogs, no fishes, nothing.
So, the only reason I can think of is pesticides. Since the visitors would complain about the mosquitoes…
And that’s what you can see in Shanghai, Beijing … too. They spray huge amounts of pesticides, often in the evening or early morning to not make it too obvious. And then you can find next day here and there a bunch of dead sparrows.
Yea, and since people are still keen to see nature and wildlife what they know from pictures and photos from Europe or America some so called nature parks are setup.
It’s all fake and a huge disaster for Chinas great country site and nature. Thanks to the CCP and stately control economy why have only one goal: making as money as possible for those in power.
Now that you guys mentioned this I can't remember seeing birds when I visited China during my various trips there for work (pre wuhan pandemic, not planning to return there). Not only birds, there are very few fishes in Yangtze River, the three gorges dam has effectively destroyed the habitats of many species of fish and creatures. Not only that, the stagnation of water promotes algae growth and pumps out 10 times more methane (green house gas that is much worst than carbon dioxide) than normal river. Thanks for this interesting video, and the message.
Never thought about the Algae growth in massive stale water reservoirs 🤨 yet another thing to the pile on things to worry about. Interesting info, thanks bro. Been following climate change since early 1980´s. And already in 1984 we knew that first north America and north Africa would be hit with draught (they are one connected weather system) . Now we are in the age of melting permafrost and the biggest threat to the planet and human civilization. And yet we play stupid military games and wars that contribute 25% of Co2 pollution to the collapsing climate system. Norway next to us have had no water again this year, so no water dam electricity to Denmark where i live. And our wind turbines are not running because the jet stream over the Atlantic ocean have stopped. And after 39 years our gas production platforms had to undergo 3 years of maintenance. We can´t even rely on green energy backup systems because of climate change now. Everything is turning to worse each year. We are running out of time.
but you see swallow like birds in the video, those black little birds, flying around, like a lot.
@@TrickOrRetreat
Wasn’t the Chixulub crater a much bigger threat than permafrost is expected to be?
I’m not being a smart Alec, but…do you really think humans will “break” the planet?
I totally think we will very likely leave the planet in an UN-livable state, and will end up offing ourselves via our erroneous practices.
But…I think the planet will survive.
It make take it a few hundred million years to dissolve our junk…
What do you think?
@@sendthis9480 No no, it´s a fair question indeed.
56 million years ago, the dinosaurs still ruled the world for another 6 mill years after the comet strike, that´s how long it took to tilt the balance totally in our favor (mammals). Right now we are living in the sixth mass extinction and it´s going faster than the comet strike 56 million years ago. Remember plastic is about to be more plentiful than fish in the Oceans in about 2 decades, and only 120 years from the invention of Bakelite plastic, that´s super fast compared. The Ocean´s can´t absorb more Co2 as we speak, and we have ocean patches larger than Europe where fish have died out because of low oxygen. Plastic patches larger than Europe on top of that problem. That was just fast examples how the oceans are collapsing in real time before our eye´s. The melting tundra is a separate issue just as big as the collapsing ocean´s eco systems.
Civilization will collapse into chaos, but we will probably be able to populate the solar system, leaving an almost dead planet behind. But the initial casualties will be 95% of humanity, because no food from the oceans and agriculture = no food for billions of people.
It took almost 80 million years for the rainforest to evolve, and in 200-250 million years the continents will all hit each other again into a new Pangea, ripping up the landscape with volcanos and molten lava in all the ripple zones. So time to evolve new intelligent races on Earth is running out.
But as you suggest, we will probably survive as a species on colonies around the solar system. But it will be a poor living without the complexity of Earth to inspire us, and show us amazing stuff, that will help us construct new amazing things to advance the human race, so we can finally reach the stars. Also without plants and dirt from earth, humans will die out as a race. Our bodies consist 25% of virus bacteria and fungus. So we actually have to bring massive parts of earths eco system into orbit, so the new born babies don´t die from lack of exposure and interaction with these virus bacteria fungus spores(first time a child put dirt in it´s mouth, the full potential of the immune system gets activated).
And to do that we need to work together, so ask yourself. Will we be able to stop all war and lay down arms, to focus all resources on the task at hand saving the human race, by going into space ?. Because the planet is out of time, and the plan needs to be set in motion now, and not in a 100 years when we don´t have access to the resources needed to complete the task.
See any Uyghurs chillin around?…
I'm in Liverpool in Britain. The range of wildlife in what is a bustling port city is amazing. Not just the large numbers of birds but also ground animals that have moved in to the parks and green areas. It saddened me when I watched ADV China a few years ago and saw how the wildlife in China had all but disappeared from the countryside. Keep up the good work guys 👏👏👏
I live over the water and It's a gem of an area tbh. I see the fox at 1am. I see bats in the evening and the parks are full of birds and squirrels (Shame it's not reds but those yank greys are fun). Parks are great in my area and in liverpool. I also have wales 15 minutes from my doo r but the city just as close. I have noticed there isnt as many Starlings on the Mersey as I use to see back in the 80's and 90's. Lairds shipyards use to have huge murmurations of starlings in the evening and the houses were covered in birds nearby. Song thrushes seem a little less numerous too. Maybe they buggered off over to your side?
@@donbunson5031 Woolyback ;) were so lucky in the UK to still have some wildlife due to such a large conservation effort, and a reduction of harsh pesticides.
Same in south east England, loads of pigeons and seagulls.
I'm Australian. We've got loads of wildlife. It's just most of it has a way to kill you if you're not careful.
On a more serious note, Singapore is probably one of the most Densely Populated places on Earth. But the Wildlife there is amazing. They've really made the effort to preserve some wetlands, create green corridors, and not pollute the crap out of everything. If you're prepared to spend some money, follow environmental laws, and have a bit of discipline, you can have a city, and nature too. I was last in Liverpool in the early 90's. Sounds like you've cleaned it up a bit since my last visit. I've been thru London several times since then, and it's certainly cleaner and clearer than my first visit.
@@tsubadaikhan6332 yeah nice one. An old friend moved to Noosa on the east coast a while back, he loves it but says the wildlife can be a bit scary. I got to visit Sydney back in '89 but it was a work trip so didn't really get to see too much.
Would love to visit Singapore, it looks amazing.
0:34 "DOES IT SWING" 😆
Throughout Northern China the farmers put up monofilament line nets to catch birds which they eat, any bird. Parks are always admission paid and most of the time the natural items such as trees, stone formations, waterfalls, etc. are all made from wire and cement. Trained pigeons are a standard for these places, and yes, they fly in circles and are fed by hand.
That's what I thought......no birds because they're food
Horrible people.
Exactly they’re running out of food and the people are eating anything that moves!
@@pinchebruha405 North Korea does that a lot. Anything edible. Even the plant life is taken for firewood.
good lord, you just described an episode of the twilight zone...
Apart from a small snake, lots of rats, mosquitoes and a few spiders I barely saw any wild animals in Chengdu as well. Even outside the city in Sichuan, there was barely any life at all. Chinese friends told me it is due to the polluted rivers and fields. Wild animals don't like it. Also the massive air pollution in China is keeping birds away according to them. They told me in the rural areas of Yunnan and Guanxi, as well as in the mountains of Sichuan it would be much better though.
It's also because they eat most of the animals in the wild.
I walked down a road in China once and off to the side, I saw a guy snatch a snake out of a tree.
He immediately skinned it and started selling it right there on the street.
@@commonsensecraziness7595 Yeah. Years ago an older Chinese lady who'd immigrated told me how amazed she was when someone took her to Yosemite and up north of San Francisco to a bird flyway. She told me the friend was just as amazed when she told him there was no wildlife in China because it was eaten during all the famines. People always moan about wildlife depredation in Africa but you never hear about China
@@commonsensecraziness7595 Imagine how in-edible Pandas must be for there to still exist some. I reckon the only reason those animals survived the famines and Mao's crazy schemes is by being nigh useless for food or Chinese medicine.
I heard that in Chengdu, when all of the tourists go home, CCP officials arrive in the middle of the night to violate the Pandas in the Zoo.
@@commonsensecraziness7595
Their expats do that too! I once had to call the cops on this woman who was killing all of the ducks at a nature reserve.
Notice all of them are tagged as well. Also, when they're hunting in the wild, they use their feet to kind of kick up the sediment and get the fish or whatever in the water to come out. And you're right, they would be moving much slower.
Living in Montreal. I was speaking the other day with Chinese peoples in a bird observatory and they looked amazed of how many birds species we have. I asked them if they were touring and how do they like Canadian Nature in general. The answer was staggering and kind of said that Same thing. Our bio diversity is humongous compared to the part of CHINA they're from. ( even the rural area and green areas)
Worked a couple of years for a touring bus business. Took group of Chinese people from Montreal and drove them into places like Mont- Tremblant in summer and mostly in falls , when the leaf's turning color around in mountains. You can ear the thousands of pictures they are taking while speaking in their own language you can tell that they never have seeing such a beautiful Natural Decor.
Nothing compared to CHINA '' fake Nature '' 🐉
Still there are birds in china. So ADVChina is just using clickbait to get views
Biggest mistake second to invention of nukes was not intervening in China and Russia.
@Schnitzelmesser CHINA: We have panda （1）
Ｃａｎａｄａ: We have black bear （0）
CHINA: We have golden monkey (1)
Ｃａｎａｄａ: We have smelly skunk (0)
CHINA: We have tiger (1)
Ｃａｎａｄａ: We have wolf (0)
CHINA: We have elephant (1)
Ｃａｎａｄａ： We have bison (0)
CHINA: We have phoenix (1)
Ｃａｎａｄａ: We have crows (0)
CHINA: 5, Ｃａｎａｄａ：０
@@hanfucolorful9656 guan Kai Wumao pls thnk you
@@hanfucolorful9656 che che
We've forgotten how rare birds were in the US before DDT was banned. I've seen a huge and wonderful return in my lifetime.
Not only DDT but especially mercury and lead contamination has been greatly reduced..... Everyone talks about the DDT, but there was only one college study done on it before that conclusion was reached.... Personally I believe it's the reduction of toxic metals (which coincided with the banning of DDT) that has improved life. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it is that sort of contamination that also plagues china's birds and other wildlife.
Edit... But I do agree with your comment about the wonderful return of the large birds... Saw my first hawk about 1978 first eagle in 1981. Now I see hawks and owls all the time (even perched in trees in my yard) and sometimes as many as 6-7 circling hawks at once.
The DDT hoax was one of the first frauds the environmental fascists pulled on the public.
There seems to be less birds to me than there used to be, especially songbirds, feral cats are indiscriminate killers
@@kenneth9874 There has been a well documented decline in songbirds. DDT was one problem but there are many others, such as loss of habitat, disease, and cats of course.
There is a great but also terrible video of a man who has gone to the same spot in a forest at the same date, to record the bird sounds for 15 or 20 years. It is almost silent now compared to how it sounded when he started.
For the most part, I agree, Chie-nar does lack the birdlife seen most anywhere else. However, you guys can't say there are no birds in midland. I lived in Fujian for more than three years where I saw many species of beautiful wild birds. Panjang, Liaoning was another location I stayed at for about two and a half years. Another beautiful place with lots of nature, including birds. Even cities like Beijing had flocks of starlings, flying those crazy patterns, along with magpies and a few crows, even some sparrows, swallows...
they exaggerate many problems in China, it’s good for views.
when I was staying in Shanghai, on my way to the artist residency I was doing, walking from the metro station to the gallery, I picked up a dying sparrow and tried to nurse it back to health- I couldn’t, then, on my way home, and over the following days, I saw about 50 of them falling out of the trees and dying on the sidewalks. It was horrendous. Maybe something to do with the insecticide and weed killer they spay everywhere. Just so devastatingly sad.
There are a lot of frogs in china- and I saw lots of birds near yangshao
I am sorry you had to witness that, thank you for your comment regardless.
Can you tell me when you were staying in Shanghai?
You would think they get off of the passed of eating anything that walks.
China is killing wild life an Endangered around the Globe. Also, illegally steeling/fishing in foreign wasters of the coats of nation's. They even went to the extreme of Cannibalism. This has had a phycological effects an was passed down as Tradition with likes if dog eating as well.
Some of these folks have demonic beings in them. Once you open up a door beyond sanity? You invite filthy spirit's in you're body.
China has Judgments coming.
Lots of frogs? Wow so that means that their natural predators (snakes etc) are NOT doing good in that location . Which begs the question, what is the large impact and large scale picture of the effects on the entire ecosystem
Nope. Yer guessing. Look into hazards of 5G and YOUR body’s “Voltage Gated Calcium Channels”
It also could been an diease like bird flu.
In the early 90's I was in the Philippines, and I stayed overnight in a house in Manila, and the next morning when I woke up to travel to the Province, I heard no birds. Not one bird sound did I hear it was ERRIE. I live in Hawaii and I always hear birds when I wake up in the morning all through out the day till the sun sets. Have a taste of that.
the only birds in manila ive seen or heard are the roosters that people kept. they woke me up every damn day at 4am and it made me want to eradicate roosters
Don't know what you're talking about. I live in Manila and there are birds everywhere. Small birds, the mayas.
@@j.b.3387 Barely any in Metro Manila. Haven't seen mayas here for 10 years, or I just didn't notice them. It's another story outside of the region though.
I see birds here in Quezon City every day. Depends on what part of town you're in.
too bad all of the ferel cats are eating all of the rare and beautiful birds in Hawaii.
I think a major reason for little wildlife is that for decades under Mao, people would eat wild life all the time and sell them in wet markets. It continued until 2002 when SARS broke out and they began regulating wet markets but even then, the practice still continued in smaller scale then 2020 COVID happened.
I spent a couple of weeks in Sanya, Hainan province for work back in 2011. This was a coastal fishing town. It took me a few days to figure out what was wrong. No seagulls following the fishing boats. Once I made this realisation and I pointed it out to my colleagues we all had an oh F#$k moment.
👀 but why??
It's like the Hitchcock movie The Birds....but in reverse!
Hainan is such a creepy place. I went running on the beach there during a work trip and I couldn’t put my finger on why it felt like the most desolate beach on earth… I don’t believe I saw a single bird.
Do you want something funny. I live in coastal are not far from Hainan. I saw seagulls...in the f...g zoo!
@@sosoable why inland? Wouldn't seagulls be near the coast?
Explains why Chinese tourist visiting an American national park, stroll up to a wild animal, such as a bison or bear, and are befuddled when they get attacked and seriously injured !
All while calling the locals “foreigner”
Great use of befuddled 👍🏻
Or when Chinese people try to catch ducks with a net in a little pond in the city where families feed the ducks like wtf that's illegal haha
You would think they get off of the passed of eating anything that walks.
China is killing wild life an Endangered around the Globe. Also, illegally steeling/fishing in foreign wasters of the coats of nation's. They even went to the extreme of Cannibalism. This has had a phycological effects an was passed down as Tradition with likes if dog eating as well.
Some of these folks have demonic beings in them. Once you open up a door beyond sanity? You invite filthy spirit's in you're body.
China has Judgments coming.
90% of people getting attacked by animals at national parks are Americans Karen
This is pretty accurate and it is true when I think back whenever I go back to visit my parents. No bird poo on cars. No seagulls stealing food. No birds on sidewalks. No squirrels, etc.
Good job, guys. I witnessed this bizarre spectacle firsthand when I lived in Qiqihaer for a year. At the time, I was with some friends that were visiting from back home (Australia). We saw the birds being herded over that hill with those long sticks. We knew that they were kept in cages. A local friend took us out there in a 面包车 (minivan). One of my friends who works in security noted that there were surveillance cameras at regular intervals along the road to the wetlands. We also couldn't help but notice the cameras positioned along the boardwalk, so that you could not go anywhere without being monitored.
It's the bird version of Seaworld.
I like how the "wetlands" is all just one grass type and nothing else, so natural lol.
Looks like rice.
@@igorjee ha yeah probably is...
Ya I am fortunate to live next to and nearby several wetlands,recently have had Florida sand cranes visit Beautiful huge birds,I wake up to the sounds of nature every morning and I'm so grateful.
Spent 14 years in China and noticed very few birds in Chongqing inthe first year, where I spent most of my time and I travelled widely all over the country during those years and did see and experience more birdlife in urban and rural regions. But nowhere near a many as I see at home. Birdlovers keep caged birds and meet in parks and green places to chat and give thier birds some fresh air in green space.
I live in China and I have seen many birds. I have lived in America and saw a similar number. These guys are telling lies.
I guess you never heard of the "The Four Pests campaign (Chinese: 除四害; pinyin: Chú Sì Hài), was one of the first actions taken in the Great Leap Forward in China from 1958 to 1962. The four pests to be eliminated were rats, flies, mosquitoes, and sparrows. The extermination of sparrows is also known as the smash sparrows campaign (Chinese: 打麻雀运动; pinyin: dǎ máquè yùndòng) or eliminate sparrows campaign (Chinese: 消灭麻雀运动; pinyin: xiāomiè máquè yùndòng), which resulted in severe ecological imbalance, being one of the causes of the Great Chinese Famine." They probably killed more than sparrows like all birds that could feed on crops.
Actually they have mentioned this in some of their older videos, that's how I learned about it.
the sparrows controlled the locusts.
once the sparrows were gone, the locusts eat the crops.
This was a contributing factor to the great famine in which up to 25 million people died
It's mentioned in the documentary, so you guessed wrong
We are so stupid as we think we can master and engineer nature. China trying to organise nature. Who wants to live in a world without wild life.
china's lack of wild life is a throwback to the late 1950s when millions and millions of chinese citizens were starving as a result of Zedong's utterly catastrophic social policies. In their pitiful desperation for food, everything got eaten by the populace; literally everything including grass and bark and even soil.
china's ecological legacy is a dearth of natural flora and fauna made worse by decades of uncontrolled pollution and land mismanagement.
You would think they get off of the passed of eating anything that walks.
China is killing wild life an Endangered around the Globe. Also, illegally steeling/fishing in foreign wasters of the coats of nation's. They even went to the extreme of Cannibalism. This has had a phycological effects an was passed down as Tradition with likes of dog eating as well.
Some of these folks have demonic beings in them. Once you open up a door beyond sanity? You invite filthy spirit's in you're body.
China has Judgments coming.
I've been wondering if it's even possible for china's ecosystems (soil toxicity, fresh water quality etc) to ever recover. It would take many years -- and even then it would require most of the population to be gone. I'm really wondering how much they are permanently poisoning the rest of the world.
@@jaspermartin7444 I'm afraid we've all just recently learned their capacity for poisoning the world.
My husband is a cop in a European capital city. Routinely has to deal with non western em.. long term visitors trying to 'hunt' wildlife. Swans are a particular favourite, apparently. There is also a program warning the non locals that pigeons and seagulls are NOT safe to eat. We have a lot of designated urban wildlife sites, and it's a huge problem, especially with the protected species of birds and small furrys.
I live in Florida and we have plenty of large white cranes. They are certainly NOT timid. They will stand in the middle of the road not even afraid of the cars. You have to drive around them. Sometimes they’ll congregate in a parking lot and they won’t move for the cars there either. You’ll have to drive around them again.
tell me about it... I came out of a store to find one on the hood of my car and it wouldn't leave! I drove around with it for several minutes while people pointed and laughed. it eventually decided when it had enough and flew away.
It's always cool to see sandhills around where I live
Pea hens or peacocks live in cape Canaveral. They are really cool.
Thier calls are pretty neat.
You would think they get off of the passed of eating anything that walks.
China is killing wild life an Endangered around the Globe. Also, illegally steeling/fishing in foreign wasters of the coats of nation's. They even went to the extreme of Cannibalism. This has had a phycological effects an was passed down as Tradition with likes if dog eating as well.
Some of these folks have demonic beings in them. Once you open up a door beyond sanity? You invite filthy spirit's in you're body.
China has Judgments coming.
Yea, in high school during a driver's education class a group of sandhill cranes dropped in on our vehicles.
It's like they knew they're a protected species and were daring us to hit them 😕
In my village, which is almost bigger than some cities in terms of area it covers, there are people that live in the hills and rarely come down to "civilization". When i was little i went in the hills with my dad to buy some sheep meat from them. I noticed there arent birds flying or anywhere in the trees. I asked my dad why ist that. He responded:"Because they ate them all." That stuck with me. I do not think they ate them all but the birds learned to stay away.
Where do you live?
@@lvr5266 In Bosnia and Herzegowina.
5:30 Very reminiscent of Mamoru-kun in Miyakojima, Okinawa. :)
the birds are just like the people, well trained and managed
I hope that's sarcasm.
@@wisdomleader85 Why? It's the truth.
mistreated, imprisoned, observed in regular intervals. checks out.
@@trog69
It is the truth, the sad truth. Can't say "well trained and managed" without an undertone of ridicule.
They never said why there's no birds in China, the title should've been more like *we found out why there are some birds in China.* But if you kill them all, eat the rest because of TCM or being poor than there won't be any birds it don't take a genius to figure out and let's not forget the pollution and non drinkable water
Before i watched the video i was actually able to look up the "Zhalong National Nature Reserve" and scrolling through google maps satellite view i found those cages also that yall are talking about in @ 17:30. Once you know to look in the Zhalong Reserve its pretty easy to spot the cages.
That is happening here in Northern California..... I have 2 acres full of fruit trees, I used to have to use stuff to scare birds away from the fruit of my trees. Past 2 years, i don't need to do that any more. .... NO more monarch butterflies, no dragonflies, and no more grasshoppers.
@@wetguavass wumao
@@HailAzathoth bueno
@@wetguavass puppet from ccp
@@shidokazuto2772 that sucks for you
went to China in 2013 for a school trip and was told by a tour guide there wasn't any birds because people caught and ate them, hadn't even occurred to me that i didn't see any
That is something I noticed immediately when living in Tianjin from 1989-1991, the only birds I saw were in cages carried by old men to a town meeting place. At first I thought well yes this was a foreign concession and there were buildings and buildings with their own concrete gateways to their own concessions so not very many trees, lots of concrete. But I noticed that in Shanghai, again a foreign concession, but much more "open", and in Beijing (I call Beijing a concrete jungle) where were the birds? Even in some of the parks in Tianjin, where I would come across slabs of marble that old men used to bring their ping-pong equipment with them,-net, paddles, screw-in anchors, ping-pong balls. I remember, and I was not that bad at ping-pong, getting my ass kicked by a 90 year old man. But where were the birds?
Pretty crazy, I love when you upload about random corrupted things you’ve come across. China is looking more and more like a bad dystopian movie.
and new xiland is the sequel
Thanks heaps for this guys. How sad, that so many people had to resort to that. Makes me feel so fortunate to live where I live. The birdlife is prolific here and the birdsong where I live in EDEN Australia, is so loud, it could nearly wake the dead.
TAKE HEED! This is what happens in a society that focuses mostly on economic growth and HUMAN prosperity. Teddy Roosevelt once said, 'Our nation's great forests are our greatest assets' or something similar, and I still couldn't agree more to this day. Teach your children that wildlife and fauna are among THE most important aspects of our lives.
We ALL have to become CONSERVATIONISTS! When we turn our heads or only look inwards, species go extinct, and what was once a variation of beauty becomes fodder for the cockroaches and the beetles.
Not that they aren't beautiful too, but they become nasty ugly when that's all there is.
Strive to keep it that way forever.
I stopped in EDEN Australia and had a fantastic (hot) roast lamb sandwich from a local shop. I remember it well (2001). Loved it all.
Amazing ❤
Yeah I dunno chief, take it with a grain of salt, I remember seeing this video and decided to remember to pay attention when I visit China for a business trip. Well that's today, and there's literally loud ass birds everywhere, and it reminded me to revisit this video. I dunno how they're making such wide sweeping statements when so far, these loud ass birds are clear as day, very present and I'm watching them with my own eyes, right now. I'm deciding to film it that's how many there are in this damn tree.
Being in the depths of China and not discovering something bizarre would be more bizarre! 😅
You speak from personal experience? Or you just know these things?
@@jimw1997 You should be called Jim L, cuz you just took an L
@@jimw1997 Very good point!! As I have never been there! It should be something like: watching something on TH-cam about China not discovering something "bizarre" would be more bizarre. Thank you for pointing that out!
Interesting exposé which is consistent with everything I’ve learned about China. However, unless I missed something, I still don’t know why there are no birds in China.
Mao had them all killed
Welp, easy enough: A totally devastated ecological landscape.
@@Pers0n97
That seems to have been the Chinese attitude about the environment since I can remember.
I was hoping that getting into the subject would be the focus of the video although what they talked about was good too.
Short version: China had some well-intentioned but seriously misguided environmental policies in the 50s which utterly fucked the ecology over much of the country.
I noticed the “no Birds” when visiting China many times when on business many years ago…it was very eerie at times and kind of melancholy.
I live in China and I have seen many birds. I have lived in America and saw a similar number. These guys are telling lies.
Sure Mr Hung , you saw many birds .
How many did you eat ? Or were they robots ?
@@hellomoto2084 No robots and I don't eat wild birds. Really,! Do you see how silly all of this no-birds stuff sounds? 🤯
I’m literally obsessed with all of your channels. Informative, detailed, and with a big helping of humor to wash it all down.
How? How do you damage the eco system so bad that seeing a wild bird is rare?? That makes me feel violently sick.
The Four Pests campaign in the 50s - an organised effort to exterminate sparrows in all of China. The intention wasn't bad, but the science was - farmers at the time regarded the sparrow as a pest for eating grain, and the government had serious concerns about the ability to feed the rapidly expanding population if they didn't do everything possible to improve agricultural yield. No-one thought to ask any actual ecologists though - China at the time being highly distrustful of academics in general - who would have pointed out that sparrows also eat a lot of pest insects. In parallel, another campaign tried to exterminate rats and disease-carrying insects by intensive use of poisons. By the time the ill-conceived campaign was over, the ecology over much of China was devastated, and never recovered.
Cos, humans.
Distrust of academics... sounds like the US today. Reagan destroyed affordable college education and right wingers have been demonizing and defunding education ever since.
@@vylbird8014 you've got a great bird's eye view all the time.
At 12:40 you can see the bird has a cuff around it's legs signifying it is a captive bird. Great restoration efforts lol
6:00 this isn’t just in China, in Japan there’s a common motorized sign that looks like a person waving a light stick to direct traffic. There was a study and it was found this person shaped sign got people to slow down and switch lanes much more effectively than just a sign.
In the US I’ve seen late at night in rural areas when I used to drive from Chicago to Texas for work and weekends at home… I would see empty police cars with their lights on flashing. I pulled over and looked around and no one in sight, it’s just a cheap way to get people to slow down
Austria too.
I also live in the states and we had a police car that kept moving to New locations but always had a cardboard cutout in the driver's seat. Also seen a plywood cutout of a police car used for speed reduction. Psychological warfare coming on strong
Korea as well.
Yeah, in China most common are stick waving robots in shape of road workers. They are almost at every big road repair site.
Chicago to Texas?
Brutal drive
I can attest to how timid those kinds of birds are, having tried to approach Herons in Quebec many times. Just goes to show how messed with these Cranes are for hanging so close to crowds of people.
I'm wondering about those red bands on their legs, could they be acting like a form of a shock collar?
@@paulajohnson1096 It's more likely an elaborate tracking device.
Je demeure en face d'un lac et j'ai la chance d'avoir des hérons bleus à chaque année. Ils font des nids énormes dans la cime des arbres ici sur mon terrain. À chaque année le même couple revient. Je sais pas si ce sont toujours les mêmes mais probablement. J'ai aussi des outardes, canards sauvages et oies blanches. Des huards viennent ici quelques fois mais ils ne restent pas.
It is said that the PRC people would eat anything with four legs including birds (their wings are air legs), but they won't eat tables or chairs.
Here in Western Canada my city has many varieties of wild birds, especially sparrows, starlings, California quail, Canada geese. If these were in rural China I am sure that they would be on their dinner plate.
...and factor in China has had a huge population for the past 200 years....and then industrialization. Critters had no chance.
And so much wildlife in general u gotta be very careful in some areas on the hiway not to hit a moose or bear etc
Same here, I even have peacocks that roam the property
I am chinese in Jiangsu，birds keep shitting on my car,and we seldom catch them。what ever you heard is very narrow view about us.
we just live in different version of and ,good luck
Back in 2009 when I visited China (Suzhou area), we made the same observation: no birds. Like ZERO birds that we could see in about 4 days. The only birds we've seen were fake ones. The hotel was looking out onto a fairly decent size lake (a "hand made" lake, we were told) and there were several bird figurines sitting on the railing of a platform belonging to the hotel and looking out onto the lake. In almost any place in the world, if you are near water, you ALWAYS see birds.
@@TheStedomi What birds were they? Were they real or bird figurines like Sandor saw?
TY guys for making stuff like this public. I remember, that somewhere in China they had an icebear in a mall in a very small ~20 m² cage. This is so messed up, ugh....
It's actually super sad to see how disconnected from nature humanity has become.
You cannot wait in a spot and pinpoint the exact time a specific bird type is gonna arrive, how are these people falling for this.
I have a garden filled with trees and bushes etc. and every fall and spring, different types of bird come in and hang out here for a couple of days every year. Only 2-3 bird species are consistent, the rest is totally random. Sometimes the consistently visiting species even don't arrive, because they most likely fly through another path. The only bird that never skipped a beat were hoopoes, that's most likely because we live on a side of a mountain, which is their nesting ground.
But man, watching people eat this shit up without even flinching is just absolutely disgusting.
Humanity hasn't. china just needs to stop eating every living thing they can.
They're wildly undereducated and don't know any better.
Speak only for yourself with certainty. I am more connected with nature now than ever. It's God's gift to us, and that is truly worth loving and appreciating.
An authoritarian dystopia that purposefully keeps its populace under-educated is not a good representative for humanity.
@@jacko4483 clearly not sufficiently connected to ditch social media eh
I still don't know why there are no birds in China. Kept waiting for the big reveal, but nothing.
Because the people there EAT them
Don’t you know? They’re not making this video about birds.
I really hope this evidence is being sent to all organizations that give money to China for Environmental and Wildlife purposes.
I was fortunate to partake in a paleontologial excavation in Southern Germany. My camp was on a field. I was amazed of how much wildlife I've seen, from falcons carrying prey, bunnies exiting their burrows, sleeping field mice and storks landing on our tent.
landing was all they did on the tent of course... right?
@@monabale8263 Yes, they flew away after they realized it was a human tent
That's the Chinese version of Megatron - Megadong!
I couldnt imagine not seeing any critters, i see everything from squirrels to feral parrots and even doves and all sorts of bugs where i live, and my community is a developed suburb.
I saw a old Chinese tourist pick up and kill two pigeons and put them in a grocery bag before getting arrested in Los Angeles. She apparently was gonna eat them.
Much like when Reagan pushed all the Hmong refugees on the State of California, they decimated ALL small game in the Southern Sierra Nevada Foothills, DISGUSTING EVIL MINDSET!
I once saw a Russian tourist get arrested for stealing gas station restroom toilet paper rolls in Los Angeles. That city is a hoot.
My parents both spent a lot of time (pharma) in China in the early 2000s and my mom noticed the lack of birds IMMEDIATELY and it was part of why she absolutely hated China.
There are still birds in china. Even one bird is not no birds. So their title is just clickbait
@@HistoricalWeapons Wrong, they lived in china for 15 years,they know what they are talking about,a lot of those birds were caught and eaten because the Chinese people were starving.All Facts so go shill somewhere else.
@@HistoricalWeapons Casual English is not so pedantic.
@@sheilacoulton775 dude. If there is one bird in china, their statement would be false. Just saying. It’s clear the intention here is clickbait and there’s nothing wrong with it. I’m a content creator myself
@@HistoricalWeapons idiotic reply my man
They also constructed in the centre of the wetland _rolls eyes_
I grew up in NYC and we had tons of birds, even hawks. I had a backyard and used to feed them. I’m in rural PA now and have lots of wildlife around me.
Haven't you heard the saying in China "we eat everything except human beings with 2 legs and furniture with 4 legs"?
No, but I've heard the phrase "the peoples' patriotic diet consists of everything from rats to bats to radial fuckin' snow tires."
Wow! At first I was like what am I listening/watching! Then I see how you were explaining how everything is a façade. Which then brought you around to the birds whom are a façade as well! Really good content!
That’s wild. Now I am thinking about my time in China. It was 10 years ago. And I am trying to think if I saw birds now. Lol
But I traveled through out rural China. And I didn’t see any wildlife. Geez.
When I was there about the same time, there were plenty of birds. Perhaps not quite as many as in the US, but there wasn't much of shortage. There were a completely different set of birds than the ones we have in the US, but I never noticed any significant shortage.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade The US isn't the friendliest neighborhood for birds either -_-
@@server1ok Please. Traffic literally yields to birds (geese) here.
@@server1ok there's always at least 4-6 birds in my backyard at any given time, plus a family of squirrels live in a tree.
@@server1ok lol... people in the US do not eat songbirds. If you think Birds are not common in the US you aren't paying attention. In my backyard every summer I host a hundred pairs of purple martins alone. That's on a half acre. Including a paranestic bluebirds three pairs of tree swallows a pair of Eastern Thebes a pair of chickadees and a pair of flickers. All using Nest box on a half acre. If there weren't territorial requirements for these birds I would have more of them
The attitude of the Party towards birds was once unimaginably extreme. See the Wikipedia article on the "Four Pests campaign", part of which was the "Smash Sparrows campaign." Yep, sparrows. The stu pidly cruel idea led to locusts swarming the country.
Ah, one-party rule. Constant misadventures, the people kept unaware of nearly all of them (unlike Smash Sparrows, which there was no choice but to cancel publicly).
@m14wdotcom I daresay the rest of us must seem quite slow to you.
arrogant pinheads...
When growing up here in California, I would see my friend's grandmother (Chinese) trapping sparrows and other birds. Basically that would be part of their dinner. I couldn't eat them. My friend said that this was common for them.
When I was working in the New Zealand Embassy in the mid 1970s I learned that during one of the agricultural programs being run by the communist party cadres during the 1960s they decided that birds ate too much of the grain and seeds from the crops, so they decided to kill all of the birds and they were successful. It was only when the next harvest failed that they realised that the birds actually ate the insects that ate the crops and now the insect numbers were unchecked. The result was a famine that killed about 30 million people. Whenever the communist party cadres embarked on special programs millions of people starved. Because of these famines there was a huge toll on the wildlife. Rewi Alley told me that the famine that followed the Great Leap Forward was huge and "that there was not a blade of grass to be seen because they had eaten every last one.
great leap forward- off the cliff.
@@monabale8263 Starvation is used by socialists and communists to control the people and the next round is global and planned to happen very soon and that is why they have been carpeting New Zealand with 1080 poison which kills all animals it comes into contact with, and this has been done so that when the planned food shortages hit home and people go looking for food in the forests they won't find any.
I was in the 8th grade in 1968 when I heard the story of no birds in China. A story like that never leaves you. It is so strange and extreme you never foget it. At the time there was no reason given. But now...I know, thanks to you guys.
I missed in the video, why are no birds in China?
Look up "the great leap forward"
Mao Zedong was a founder of CCP in 1949. His "Great Leap Forward" plan to industrialize the nation started around 1958 and resulted in a huge famine that killed millions.
Mao Zedong was a founder of CCP in 1949. His "Great Leap Forward" plan to industrialize the nation started around 1958 and resulted in a huge famine that killed millions.
5:54... Why would the word police be spelled in English in China...?
In China even the birds have a credit score!
I saw some wild birds in Qingdao but I must admit I was surprised to see them as it was the first time I saw wild birds in my travels through China
I think the tags on the birds was a dead giveaway 🤦♂️
Hey guys I live up in harbin. I love the place. It’s weather is always a surprise. They have those fake things everywhere. It’s actually funny, they have them in the weirdest places. I also visited the crane area and boy do they inflate it. We visited it and we were lucky to see them. That area is outside the sanctuary. But, your right they tote these things like it’s insane. That museum is actually closed at the moment so do not know what’s inside. But it is horrible. I also laughed when you said natural and I saw them myself.
Here in Australia, you can even find birds flying around in the basement supermarket !
As I said, The Four Pests Campaign was one of these drives, part of the Great Leap Forward between 1958 and 1962. Killing all the sparrows was part of this campaign
That opening makes me miss the old ADVChina videos
That is not a circus of cranes. That’s a crane re-education center.
That's bloody outrageous 😉
In my city, we've been encouraging falcons to live downtown for pigeon control for decades. In recent years, we've had a nesting pair of bald eagles by the river. There is always some excitement in the spring when ppl make the first sightings of eggs in the nest. In the past year or two, I think we've picked up a couple more pairs. Heck, I've seen redtailed hawks and great horned owls fighting off crows trying to steal their kills in mid flight, right in my suburban backyard. I've seen Canada geese and sea gulls have raging "tiffs" in the Wal-Mart parking lot. I have hummingbirds and 3 types of woodpecker outside my kitchen window. Sad. Very, very sad.
china never fails in setting the bar even lower. i´ll stop using the phrase "rock bottom" and use "china style" or something like that instead
Well said, couldn't agree more.
I’m bird-lover and I’ve been dreaming for a long time of seeing these birds, but not like _this_ 😩
Poor birdies 😥
Zhalong Nature Reserve, Qiqihar, Heilongjiang, China (47.2089282, 124.238567)
Edit: Satellite image at 16:57
I suspect you may be able to see the cages directly while standing on the extreme left or extreme right of the viewing platform. Also appears to be a well worn path from the left side of the dirt bank to the cages behind.
When I was a kid I used to fish at a pond by my house and I would chuck little bluegills I caught at sandhill cranes that would be chilling by me and they would eat them whole and I thought it was awesome. Hopefully I didn't ruin their hunting skills lol.
Nah thats like goin to s restaurant for the night instead of having to cook lol
Its kind of tragic in a way that someone from edwardian england could relate to. Here in ohio we get some really big wild turkeys, not the plump things you see on the farms, like 3 foot tall birds of muscle and feathers and they flock and attack you if you get too close
Why Edwardian England?
@@curiositycloset2359 That era of British history is probably the closest direct comparison to current-day China: immediately post-industrialization, a much more even level of prosperity, urban life about as cosmopolitan as you could get, but the economy was teetering on the brink of implosion (particularly in the manufacturing sector) with hilariously high rates of capital flight, right as the commoners started to have that collective horrified realization of just how fucked they were getting by their own government.
And then things got REALLY interesting when World War 1 kicked off a few years in.
love the look with the jackets. those transformers looked quality for once as well