Hey guys! I love both of you and the content you all put out and I will never stop enjoying it it, but I wanted to share something and hopefully you all see this. Now I know in the grand scheme of things my opinion doesn’t matter and you all are going to and should do what’s best and right for you guys- and there’s nothing wrong with that whatsoever. I just wanted to say I first found you guys years ago with no to little knowledge of pedals, pedalboards, and the like and I can now attribute a large portion of my knowledge to you guys. From your videos, you have equipped me with information that’s actually been able to help a lot of my friends with their music and effects questions and also with purchasing equipment that best suits them- which is a huge deal. I just wanted to tell y’all please don’t stop making informative videos that really go in depth about how pedals, amps, and guitars work and how they all intermingle with each other. You guys really are a valuable resource whether you think so or not and you both are truly making an impact in people’s lives- at least in my life. Thank you both so much and I hope you all have a blessed holiday season!!!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment - we genuinely appreciate it! Without you fine folks, this show is nothing, so thank you again for the kind words and feedback!
same story for me InLostMotion. I came to TPS a few years ago to watch the vid on Pedal Order. I went from 4 pedals to 14 in a year and gained a ton of knowledge from these guys. went back and watched all past eps and haven't missed one since.
This might explain it better. I was messing around with Flanging/Phasing in 1967. Michael Dacre Barclay of Decca Records showed me how to get it on a mono domestic tape recorder. It simply involved putting a shiny piece of plastic (i.e. slippery) over the erase head - in order that one can record and playback at the same time. Now once you've recorded the unaffected bit of music that you want flanged/phased you introduce the mic adjacent to the speaker that the music is playing back through. In other words you are recording from the speaker the music playing back on the same piece of tape. By moving the mic a short distance back and towards the speaker the effect is made and recorded on to the original dry piece of music. No pedals of this existed anywhere then. Great fun! I was sixteen at the time and working at Decca (where I was also a pal of Mike Vernon) it felt like being at the centre of the universe. Cheers, Pete.
Well, I've never liked the sound of flange, certainly never owned a flange pedal, but you guys are likely the ONLY two gents I'd watch talk about them for an hour, and with a massive smile on my face. Thanks as ever guys.
Flange is my favorite effect also. Thank Dan for sharing you hunt for your perfect flanger. I lean your way, crystalline with no jet. I always enjoy yours and Mick’s journeys. And a belated Happy Birthday.
This episode is yet another great example of gorgeous things that make one want to pick up and play. Enthusiasm and experimentation for the win. Thanks guys!
As usual, QUALITY content! Well done!! I’ve never considered how Flange might punch up my playing. Really fascinating stuff. Glad I watched even though flange wasn’t on my radar... now it’s a MUST HAVE!!! Many thanks! Cheers!
Good lord- the komorebi is amazing- wow. The part with the Harlot into the komorebi is just so deep, rich, animated, and interesting sounding- simply amazing.
That taste of Thropy just opens up the sound and makes it huge. What a tone! Flangers have always come closest to the slow Leslie sound for me when you want to play Badge or something. And several of these do that. But the Thorpy has a sort of Dimension sound to it that just fills up the room. Dan, if you want to accentuate the leading edge or transient of a note, try turning the pick to the side as Matt Schofield does. With a square edged pick (as opposed to a nicely smoothed one, or worn) I've found that I can get closer to that dynamic thing that he does where notes jump with extra thickness as well as in level. Not the same as a leading edge "chirp" but just that grab you by the collar "listen to this note" thing that he has.
Hi, guys. The Komorebi (木漏れ日) is pronounced with long O's. The Re has a long A sound, as in "ray". Finally, the Bi is a long E, as in "bee". Komorebi means "sunbeams" in Japanese and that is, in fact, what the kanji spells out between the knobs. Greetings from Tokyo. ❤️ Think sunlight streaming through a forest canopy and you've got the meaning. [ Edit to add: I have an early 2000s analog Maxon FL301 reissue flanger that I love to bits. Dialling back the width and regen and putting a Danelectro Tuna Melt tremolo behind it is pretty freaking tasty. ]
Big thumbs up from me on the Thorpy flanger. I’m with Mick in that the blend control solves probably the main issues I have with this type of modulation. Dan putting the dial on 9 o’clock sounded immense!
Here’s an idea- make your own flanger using the wetter box. Flange is pretty simple to make using other pedals after splitting and recombining signals. You could even use a master sequencer pedal to sync up multiple modulation effects. The man made his own pedalboard version of a tape echo, for Pete’s sake!
I have not seen the video yet, but....Has Dan found his ultimate Flanger Pedal? NOO!! There´s no way to do that hahaha, the Pedal Journey is endless. Greetings from Spain, I love your channel!
TPS would release a flanger episode the day after I rearrange my board and swap the flanger for a chorus... I thought I was set for a while but of course now I want to swap back. It never ends! Thanks guys :)
Halfway through this deep-dive into flangers (educational as usual) I noticed your That Pedal Show anagram t-shirts. That's awesome. Help Thaw Toads indeed 🤘. Gonna go find out what flanger Dan has been using recently. Cheers, y'all.
I went for the Komo-Rebi in the end, because it offers a wide range of tones from 'normal' to 'insane' (it does a nice CE-2 type chorus as well on subtle settings), it works well with synths, and it looks f***ing cool...
@@theredfaceofficialIt's a noisy pedal, but it's tolerable with a high end power supply. It's still a bit noisy and it's sensitive to placement. Dreadbox switched it to 9V power about three years ago, so you're good. The originals did come with a 15V power supply, but they had many returns, so they switched it to 9V.
For a long time I could not understand why anyone would use a flanger. I had tried a couple but did not find them useful. After your previous episode on flangers I decided to get one again and then I realized I had been doing it all wrong. On a flanger, the typical pedal approach (start with all knobs at noon, then all of them on full) does not work. No: with a flanger you set all of the pots conservatively and start to raise only one of them past noon. A much easier approach to a good sound. Once you learn that you realize that the flanger is one of the most powerful effects there is. Anything from a doubling type of sound to a chorusy sound to a jet plane swoosh and beyond. I really love mine now, thanks to your show.
I just want to brag on how brilliant of a designer Nick Thorpy is and what a wonderful addition to my lineup the camoflange is. I can’t wait to try some more of his products and love that he is working with a former designer for lovetone.
Phenomenal show as usual gents! I recently acquired an identical Supro Jamesport on a lark. I must say I’ve been completely taken aback by the character of that unassuming goldfoil. Seems it also has a rather unique interaction with the volume knob. Very cool!
I completely agree with your appreciation of a more subtle use of effects, particularly time effects. Just a slight bit of flange to add, as you say, “shimmer”, really works for me, so much more than the “Here’s a flanger on”, sound. Same for delay. chorus, tremolo, etc., in so many instances. I have had the TC Electronics, Stereo Chorus, Pitch Modulator and Flanger (black box with attached power cord) on my board since the early ‘90s when it was considered to be the absolute best chorus, etc., pedal. I expect that you guys are quite aware of it. In my opinion, it still provides the most musical chorus and flanger and is unmatched by anything since.
Dog ears. Mick, this stuff doesn't come though TH-cam. I mostly listen to these though a Focusrite interface and studio monitors and when you jump up to "fix" something, I've often no idea why.
@@stevekirby7333 It's usually input gain on the recording channel strips. Conscious of clipping. Otherwise it might be subtle once recorded but in the room just makes things about more comfortable and flowing for me and Dan. I think a lot of people maybe don't realise these shows are basically one take, playing and everything. It really helps to be comfortable and enjoying the sounds. We're both the kind of guitarists who play so much worse when we don't like the sound!
I completely get where Dan is coming from here. Once you find *your flanger* it bleeds into your soul, let alone your sound, & trying to find a replacement/alternative is a bastard of a struggle.
I am at minute 9:40 only, but I really wanted to say this - this is awesome! This is TPS going back to its roots (I know, I am stretching that by using it about a show with a 3? 4? year history). I caught the pedal bug watching your many episodes on chorus (“is chorus rubbish...?), an became a chorus freak myself... Also flanger (I have two on my board currently - moog mf flange and Earthquakerdevices Pyramids - and I am too looking for the perfect EHX EM replacement pedal.... Many thanks for revisiting flangers! Cheers!
Last year you guys made a really big deal about the Earthquaker Pyramids at an event and shot a few videos. You mentioned that you may have found Dan's new flanger back then and that you would be getting one when you got back home so you could spend more time with it on the show. We haven't seen it again, are there plans to bring it back?
Pyramids is a beast. Has so much though I wish I could midi (or foot) switch through the presets. It kills in a stereo rig. Covers a few flavors of flange and all chorusing needs for me, for now.
I don’t think I have ever had a flanger on my board maybe this video shall change my mind. Maybe this sound will make a come back. Lol ...... I kid because I love . You guys know that ;) looking Forward to the video as always
Hey Dan! Thanks for finding the perfect flanger. I’ve had the A/DA PBF model for some time and it does sound great, but I’ve always missed that top end you mention. I am very glad I don’t have to explain watching a video discussing the mistress and harlot and how they sound so good together.
Awesome as usual! I might have to look into getting the Thorpy when it comes out. I agree with Mick about the issues of most flangers being either too harsh or not ideal tones.
Been eagerly awaiting this one, I too have an original 18v mistress that I love, but it's so fragile and finicky, excited to see how these others stack up
Idk how but you guys are posting videos about the specific things that I’ve trying to figure out lately and they’re posting just as I’m thinking about them. Most notably the recent EL84/Vox video, as I’m searching for a Vox style amp, and now a video about searching for an Electric mistress style flange as I am looking for one... it’s like you are reading my minds 😂
Well, I was really stoked to see this video for I am also a flange junky. However, I felt like you didn't spend nearly enough time finding sounds with the Thorpy that sound as inspiring as the ones you got with the Dreadbox. We've been talking for weeks about this flanger, and I feel like Dan kinda let Mick hit the "wrap-it-up" button too soon on that one. Hopefully you'll bring it back and just do a good playthrough of the Camouflange. At first I was like Awww Yeahh! And then I was like wait what?! IT was just starting to get good! In the meantime, I'll go listen again...love you dudes! Aloha
When I first got into That Pedal Show what hooked me were the let's find the best Big Muff/Klon/tape Delay shows. What you have gone on to do is fantastic, it is however wonderful revisit the single pedal format show. Loved this one. When you did the Big Muff show, I got Muffroom Cloud (as it was). When you did the Klon show, I got the Tumnus, then an Archer and then a real Klon. From the last of these shows I managed to get hold of a real Mistress. I see the Camoflange being ordered on day one. My wife is not a fan of this show! Keep up the good work.
Great show guys. Slightly off topic: dan, do you have some photos over the years of the wear and tear to red? I know there's a chip in there that you're not happy about but over all its looking well well loved. Would be great to see a 5-10 min vlog on that guitar (and include the time you lost it :P)
I noticed the Komo Rebi, which apparently is a delightful Japanese word describing the effect of sunlight streaming through the leaves of trees, has a unique 15v power supply, how did you, or would you, handle that on a professional pedalboard?
Can I ask - Which one is more Andy Summers-like? I am looking for a: chimey, shimmering, chorusy Flanger? Appreciate any input. ( currently using the E-Lady)
23.20: 'Aah Taylor.' Hilarious. Especially after Mick's self congratulation on explaining the difference b/w chorus and flange. (Must be Dan's 'favourite' ) as there was no admonishment- 'Don't call out Taylor- I'm glad you knew the answer but hands up okay?' You two have the best job and workmates you could wish for. 5 stars.
The Thorpy Camoflange is rightly named and is the most versatile flanger that does what all the other pedals can do and i wish my stereo electric flanger had a wet/dry blend control ! At times i need a much less wet flange sound !
Very interesting! Too bad though you didn't include the Alexander Pedal f13 Neo Flanger. It also does the Blend/Mix and a lot more in a very compact Size.
Awesome video thank you! One avenue that hasn’t been explored on the show is stereo amplifiers and I am hopeful that might come in the future. My main interest is the magnatone amps with stereo vibrato! Also tonebender episode?
Just the playing thru the Harlot had me smiling...and you weren't even to the flanger part yet. Nicely done, Dan. (having gotten to the end, this video sold me more on the Harlot than the flangers!)
When I put my Mistress on top of certain amps I can get different rhythmic patterns from it depending on the knob settings. I’ve recorded some of ‘em and then used the recordings in making beats. 😇
Flanger is an effect I get sick of pretty quickly, but I loved the sound of the EHX with the Harlot through those amps, and I can see some real potential in the camoflange.
I think you guys used retrosonic flanger first version where top highs are much lower than new version of this pedal. The new version is now almost identical to mistress
I’ve had my 59 American Vintage Strat for several years now. Love it. I really think it’s as close to a Fender custom shop in terms of quality that you can find for the money
Hey Dan (and Mick) love the show been watching since the beginning when you guys first started and love your content. I learn something new every week and it makes me want to start my own studio in the future. Dan i know you have a love for flanger pedals so I want to recommend one to you just as another colour to try out. I love my Ibanez CF7 Chorus/Flanger so much and have been using it for over 10 years now. Its from the Tone Lok series of pedals and i really like the tones i get out of it. It has a knob to control the delay time and I find it very useful for dialling in the perfect sound I'm looking for. The level does drop a bit in the wack'd mode but that is more for the crazy sounds (though i've found some very subtle setting there too), but the normal mode is full and fat. Love it on clean sounds (almost an always on pedal for me) and its killer after a fuzz for solos. The speed and depth controls can be set to 0 meaning you can set a fixed delay point which can be really cool for a solo with a short tape delay. Just wanted to mention it to you because I don't see a lot of people talking about it and its become a favourite of mine over the years. Keep up the awesome show guys and cheers from Perth! Would love to see you guys down under someday :)
RetroSonic has a v2 that is Brighter & supposedly near-Spot-on to the Mistress? ( also ) PastFX has two more Mistress-clones: The Reticon ( tons of controls ) and the Elastic Mattress??? Update: Ordered a Retro Sonic.
Dan, I can't remember, have you played with the EQD Pyramids yet? It's got a bit of everything in there. Does it not get that high sparkle you're looking for?
Dan's looking for a modern pedal to nail the sound of his old analog EHX Mistress, they always try pedals with analog Mistress-inspired circuits. EQD Pyramids is a fully digital crazy machine, it can probably make a similar sound but it's a whole different type of pedal.
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Hey guys! I love both of you and the content you all put out and I will never stop enjoying it it, but I wanted to share something and hopefully you all see this. Now I know in the grand scheme of things my opinion doesn’t matter and you all are going to and should do what’s best and right for you guys- and there’s nothing wrong with that whatsoever. I just wanted to say I first found you guys years ago with no to little knowledge of pedals, pedalboards, and the like and I can now attribute a large portion of my knowledge to you guys. From your videos, you have equipped me with information that’s actually been able to help a lot of my friends with their music and effects questions and also with purchasing equipment that best suits them- which is a huge deal. I just wanted to tell y’all please don’t stop making informative videos that really go in depth about how pedals, amps, and guitars work and how they all intermingle with each other. You guys really are a valuable resource whether you think so or not and you both are truly making an impact in people’s lives- at least in my life. Thank you both so much and I hope you all have a blessed holiday season!!!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment - we genuinely appreciate it! Without you fine folks, this show is nothing, so thank you again for the kind words and feedback!
same story for me InLostMotion. I came to TPS a few years ago to watch the vid on Pedal Order. I went from 4 pedals to 14 in a year and gained a ton of knowledge from these guys. went back and watched all past eps and haven't missed one since.
Well spoken :o)
I sold all my pedals and got a Helix, but I still watch this because you’re nice and entertaining. :)
Truly awesome, entertaining and informative videos - I went from 1 to 10+ overdrives!
According to the auto-captions, that Matchless Czech Drug Lord 30 is one sweet amp
Hahaha!!!!
Someone needs to make an amp called the 🇨🇿 💉 ✝ now. 😆
This might explain it better. I was messing around with Flanging/Phasing in 1967. Michael Dacre Barclay of Decca Records showed me how to get it on a mono domestic tape recorder. It simply involved putting a shiny piece of plastic (i.e. slippery) over the erase head - in order that one can record and playback at the same time. Now once you've recorded the unaffected bit of music that you want flanged/phased you introduce the mic adjacent to the speaker that the music is playing back through. In other words you are recording from the speaker the music playing back on the same piece of tape. By moving the mic a short distance back and towards the speaker the effect is made and recorded on to the original dry piece of music.
No pedals of this existed anywhere then. Great fun! I was sixteen at the time and working at Decca (where I was also a pal of Mike Vernon) it felt like being at the centre of the universe. Cheers, Pete.
That is amazing! Thank you P!
Barney Kessel over there....Barney Rubble. I laughed hard! Thanks!
Thanks mate! instead of getting the Thorpy I think I'll just find a cheap walkman and a plastic bag laying about...NOT!
Such a cool story!
Well, I've never liked the sound of flange, certainly never owned a flange pedal, but you guys are likely the ONLY two gents I'd watch talk about them for an hour, and with a massive smile on my face. Thanks as ever guys.
I will never get tired of flanger episodes. Great job as usual guys
Wow that Dreadbox sounds awesome, what a fun sound! And yeah Dan, the Thorpy is killer too! Love your enthusiasm!
One (dual mode) overdrive.
One delay.
SEVEN FLANGERS!!
Alright got my next board sorted.
Komorebi in Japanese means 'sunlight filtering through tress'
Dan’s face during this entire episode!! Like a kid in a candy store! So inspired...
Dan has a knack for finding the sweet spots for every pedal.
It’ll be nice once Thorpy has tackled every type of pedal. His stuff is so good
Yep!
but does he make a distortion to rival the REVV G4?
Flange is my favorite effect also. Thank Dan for sharing you hunt for your perfect flanger. I lean your way, crystalline with no jet. I always enjoy yours and Mick’s journeys. And a belated Happy Birthday.
This episode is yet another great example of gorgeous things that make one want to pick up and play. Enthusiasm and experimentation for the win. Thanks guys!
Loved that jazzy Jingle Bells at 7:52 !! Well done Mick !! :D :D
Best intro duet ever! Who knew Mick could play pedals as well as he plays guitar?
As usual, QUALITY content! Well done!!
I’ve never considered how Flange might punch up my playing. Really fascinating stuff. Glad I watched even though flange wasn’t on my radar... now it’s a MUST HAVE!!!
Many thanks! Cheers!
I want that Camoflange! Wow! Thorpy’s pedals are great and this one sounds like the best one yet!
when mick took out the weird guitar and just went off on a flange journey,that was really cool, you two should def use that sound for a new song!!
Good lord- the komorebi is amazing- wow. The part with the Harlot into the komorebi is just so deep, rich, animated, and interesting sounding- simply amazing.
That taste of Thropy just opens up the sound and makes it huge. What a tone! Flangers have always come closest to the slow Leslie sound for me when you want to play Badge or something. And several of these do that. But the Thorpy has a sort of Dimension sound to it that just fills up the room.
Dan, if you want to accentuate the leading edge or transient of a note, try turning the pick to the side as Matt Schofield does. With a square edged pick (as opposed to a nicely smoothed one, or worn) I've found that I can get closer to that dynamic thing that he does where notes jump with extra thickness as well as in level. Not the same as a leading edge "chirp" but just that grab you by the collar "listen to this note" thing that he has.
Incredible tones today! The amps, the pedals, the guitars... everything!
Cheers!
You have forever changed the way I think about flanging. Dreadbox Komo Rebi is very cool. Very, very cool.
Great show gents! Thanks for the update on Dan’s quest for the ultimate Flanger (replacement for the Mistress). Sounds great!!
Hi, guys. The Komorebi (木漏れ日) is pronounced with long O's. The Re has a long A sound, as in "ray". Finally, the Bi is a long E, as in "bee". Komorebi means "sunbeams" in Japanese and that is, in fact, what the kanji spells out between the knobs. Greetings from Tokyo. ❤️ Think sunlight streaming through a forest canopy and you've got the meaning. [ Edit to add: I have an early 2000s analog Maxon FL301 reissue flanger that I love to bits. Dialling back the width and regen and putting a Danelectro Tuna Melt tremolo behind it is pretty freaking tasty. ]
Nice. These are nice images! Thank you Trane!
Ibanez mini delay is the unsung hero of this episode
Big thumbs up from me on the Thorpy flanger. I’m with Mick in that the blend control solves probably the main issues I have with this type of modulation. Dan putting the dial on 9 o’clock sounded immense!
Yep, that Thorpy sounds beautiful. I love that its more JRC 120 chorus-ish and not whooshing jet sounds. Stunning.
The Dreadbox was my personal fave of the flangers... but that Kingsley, oh my goodness.
15:48 amazed by Dan’s fingerpicking
Thanks again for another wonderful show. I look forward to Friday evenings !
Here’s an idea- make your own flanger using the wetter box. Flange is pretty simple to make using other pedals after splitting and recombining signals. You could even use a master sequencer pedal to sync up multiple modulation effects. The man made his own pedalboard version of a tape echo, for Pete’s sake!
Flange that top end! Surprised self- modulation passed without DAN in hysterics !!! Great episode guys & congrats Adrian !!!!!
I have not seen the video yet, but....Has Dan found his ultimate Flanger Pedal? NOO!! There´s no way to do that hahaha, the Pedal Journey is endless.
Greetings from Spain, I love your channel!
TPS would release a flanger episode the day after I rearrange my board and swap the flanger for a chorus... I thought I was set for a while but of course now I want to swap back. It never ends! Thanks guys :)
Halfway through this deep-dive into flangers (educational as usual) I noticed your That Pedal Show anagram t-shirts. That's awesome. Help Thaw Toads indeed 🤘. Gonna go find out what flanger Dan has been using recently. Cheers, y'all.
I went for the Komo-Rebi in the end, because it offers a wide range of tones from 'normal' to 'insane' (it does a nice CE-2 type chorus as well on subtle settings), it works well with synths, and it looks f***ing cool...
Hi did your Komorebi come with a dedicated power supply? Have you had any noise issues? Thanks
@@theredfaceofficial It does, yes…and it’s a noisy pedal.
@@theredfaceofficialIt's a noisy pedal, but it's tolerable with a high end power supply. It's still a bit noisy and it's sensitive to placement. Dreadbox switched it to 9V power about three years ago, so you're good. The originals did come with a 15V power supply, but they had many returns, so they switched it to 9V.
Komorebi “Sunshine filtering through the leaves of trees” This is Me on every conceivable level ❤️ Please have one sent over immediately 🙏
For a long time I could not understand why anyone would use a flanger. I had tried a couple but did not find them useful. After your previous episode on flangers I decided to get one again and then I realized I had been doing it all wrong. On a flanger, the typical pedal approach (start with all knobs at noon, then all of them on full) does not work. No: with a flanger you set all of the pots conservatively and start to raise only one of them past noon. A much easier approach to a good sound. Once you learn that you realize that the flanger is one of the most powerful effects there is. Anything from a doubling type of sound to a chorusy sound to a jet plane swoosh and beyond. I really love mine now, thanks to your show.
I just want to brag on how brilliant of a designer Nick Thorpy is and what a wonderful addition to my lineup the camoflange is. I can’t wait to try some more of his products and love that he is working with a former designer for lovetone.
Hard to beat Thorpy. Everything from him that I've heard has been amazing.
Phenomenal show as usual gents! I recently acquired an identical Supro Jamesport on a lark. I must say I’ve been completely taken aback by the character of that unassuming goldfoil. Seems it also has a rather unique interaction with the volume knob. Very cool!
I completely agree with your appreciation of a more subtle use of effects, particularly time effects. Just a slight bit of flange to add, as you say, “shimmer”, really works for me, so much more than the “Here’s a flanger on”, sound. Same for delay. chorus, tremolo, etc., in so many instances.
I have had the TC Electronics, Stereo Chorus, Pitch Modulator and Flanger (black box with attached power cord) on my board since the early ‘90s when it was considered to be the absolute best chorus, etc., pedal. I expect that you guys are quite aware of it. In my opinion, it still provides the most musical chorus and flanger and is unmatched by anything since.
31:17 - This tone is a very "Tool" esque sound. I love it!
Hah!
First time of reading a reference to TOOL on tps! And right as I was thinking, "Man... Opiate!"
I didnt know I am THAT interested in pedals, watched the whole thing and I will definitely stay for more
I love my TC thunderstorm flanger. Analogue bucket brigade yoke was only about 30 quid. Sounds great
Got one used too. Very usable kinda versatile, dirt cheap
Mick - I think there's a bit too much top end on the orange......Dan's Face: yeh mate whatever!!
Dog ears. Mick, this stuff doesn't come though TH-cam. I mostly listen to these though a Focusrite interface and studio monitors and when you jump up to "fix" something, I've often no idea why.
@@stevekirby7333 because theyre playing for their enjoyment
@@stevekirby7333 It's usually input gain on the recording channel strips. Conscious of clipping. Otherwise it might be subtle once recorded but in the room just makes things about more comfortable and flowing for me and Dan. I think a lot of people maybe don't realise these shows are basically one take, playing and everything. It really helps to be comfortable and enjoying the sounds. We're both the kind of guitarists who play so much worse when we don't like the sound!
I completely get where Dan is coming from here. Once you find *your flanger* it bleeds into your soul, let alone your sound, & trying to find a replacement/alternative is a bastard of a struggle.
+1 and many a thumbs up for seeing the DGT!
Wow! I'm definitely getting a camoflange! That's great stuff! Sounds awesome!😃
I am at minute 9:40 only, but I really wanted to say this - this is awesome! This is TPS going back to its roots (I know, I am stretching that by using it about a show with a 3? 4? year history). I caught the pedal bug watching your many episodes on chorus (“is chorus rubbish...?), an became a chorus freak myself... Also flanger (I have two on my board currently - moog mf flange and Earthquakerdevices Pyramids - and I am too looking for the perfect EHX EM replacement pedal.... Many thanks for revisiting flangers! Cheers!
Happy Birthday Dan!! Mean trick about the 2x12 Mick! Haha
Last year you guys made a really big deal about the Earthquaker Pyramids at an event and shot a few videos. You mentioned that you may have found Dan's new flanger back then and that you would be getting one when you got back home so you could spend more time with it on the show. We haven't seen it again, are there plans to bring it back?
Dan's new flanger is always the next new (good) flanger!
Got GAS?
Pyramids is a beast. Has so much though I wish I could midi (or foot) switch through the presets. It kills in a stereo rig. Covers a few flavors of flange and all chorusing needs for me, for now.
Really dig that Black Strat! Thanks for the post.
The way Dan uses flange reminds me a bit of how Albert King used phase shifting, very cool!
I don’t think I have ever had a flanger on my board maybe this video shall change my mind. Maybe this sound will make a come back. Lol ...... I kid because I love . You guys know that ;)
looking Forward to the video as always
Hey Dan! Thanks for finding the perfect flanger. I’ve had the A/DA PBF model for some time and it does sound great, but I’ve always missed that top end you mention. I am very glad I don’t have to explain watching a video discussing the mistress and harlot and how they sound so good together.
I have ordered a Thorpy Flanger!! it ticks all the boxes I could hope for :) that blend/tone knob alone is a major perk
Awesome as usual! I might have to look into getting the Thorpy when it comes out. I agree with Mick about the issues of most flangers being either too harsh or not ideal tones.
I never owned a mistress but every time I got to play one, I just got lost in the sounds for an hour. Beautiful and inspiring sound.
I've got an old MXR Flanger and finally an explanation of what REGEN actually does. Thanks lads for another great ep. Rock🤘🤟🖖🤙
Been eagerly awaiting this one, I too have an original 18v mistress that I love, but it's so fragile and finicky, excited to see how these others stack up
Great show !! I wish that DGT was coming out more often. I love that sound.
47:53 Lest you forget that Mick is actually some kind of mad savant genius who somehow notices literally every detail. Every one of them!
Ahem. If only. :0)
He’s 33% of a mad savant genius🤣
@@ThatPedalShow Nobody would be tempted to make any "OCD" comments about you if you weren't paying very close attention. I'm not wrong. :P
@@davidtomkins4242 I'll take that!
That Pedal Show 🤣🤣👍🏻
Idk how but you guys are posting videos about the specific things that I’ve trying to figure out lately and they’re posting just as I’m thinking about them. Most notably the recent EL84/Vox video, as I’m searching for a Vox style amp, and now a video about searching for an Electric mistress style flange as I am looking for one... it’s like you are reading my minds 😂
LOVE seeing the Tremlord in there!!!
Outstanding!!!!!! Been looking forward to this one 🥃
absolutely loved "Jammin with the BF1 " :-) , The Komo Rebi is my fav ...
uhhhh.. that mick's prs again after a long time.. love it!
Can the camoflange sound paint chip close to the electric mistress, or would the elastic mattress be better for that? 5:23
Micks riffing with the Supro was extraordinary. What a great sound
Thank you!
Well, I was really stoked to see this video for I am also a flange junky. However, I felt like you didn't spend nearly enough time finding sounds with the Thorpy that sound as inspiring as the ones you got with the Dreadbox. We've been talking for weeks about this flanger, and I feel like Dan kinda let Mick hit the "wrap-it-up" button too soon on that one. Hopefully you'll bring it back and just do a good playthrough of the Camouflange. At first I was like Awww Yeahh! And then I was like wait what?! IT was just starting to get good! In the meantime, I'll go listen again...love you dudes! Aloha
When I first got into That Pedal Show what hooked me were the let's find the best Big Muff/Klon/tape Delay shows. What you have gone on to do is fantastic, it is however wonderful revisit the single pedal format show. Loved this one. When you did the Big Muff show, I got Muffroom Cloud (as it was). When you did the Klon show, I got the Tumnus, then an Archer and then a real Klon. From the last of these shows I managed to get hold of a real Mistress. I see the Camoflange being ordered on day one. My wife is not a fan of this show! Keep up the good work.
id like to know whats on your board currently
Loved Mick’s ‘BBC-style present tense history narrative’ interjection, gonna heat (and use) that everywhere now!
Great show guys. Slightly off topic: dan, do you have some photos over the years of the wear and tear to red? I know there's a chip in there that you're not happy about but over all its looking well well loved. Would be great to see a 5-10 min vlog on that guitar (and include the time you lost it :P)
I noticed the Komo Rebi, which apparently is a delightful Japanese word describing the effect of sunlight streaming through the leaves of trees, has a unique 15v power supply, how did you, or would you, handle that on a professional pedalboard?
Is it better to fuzz out than it is to flange away?
Bought the Retro Sonic and Camoflange because of this episode. The Hartman is incredible also!!!!
Can I ask - Which one is more Andy Summers-like? I am looking for a: chimey, shimmering, chorusy Flanger? Appreciate any input. ( currently using the E-Lady)
23.20: 'Aah Taylor.' Hilarious. Especially after Mick's self congratulation on explaining the difference b/w chorus and flange. (Must be Dan's 'favourite' ) as there was no admonishment- 'Don't call out Taylor- I'm glad you knew the answer but hands up okay?' You two have the best job and workmates you could wish for. 5 stars.
The Thorpy Camoflange is rightly named and is the most versatile flanger that does what all the other pedals can do and i wish my stereo electric flanger had a wet/dry blend control !
At times i need a much less wet flange sound !
Not really into flangers but stayed for the Harlot WoW what a great box for an extra gain stage Very cool 👍
Very interesting! Too bad though you didn't include the Alexander Pedal f13 Neo Flanger. It also does the Blend/Mix and a lot more in a very compact Size.
As long winded as these guys are, they're absolutely right. I love flanger and I'm definitely buying this pedal.
Befor on the left and After on the right would give a huge Guitar part😉🤘
Awesome video thank you! One avenue that hasn’t been explored on the show is stereo amplifiers and I am hopeful that might come in the future. My main interest is the magnatone amps with stereo vibrato! Also tonebender episode?
Just the playing thru the Harlot had me smiling...and you weren't even to the flanger part yet. Nicely done, Dan. (having gotten to the end, this video sold me more on the Harlot than the flangers!)
When I put my Mistress on top of certain amps I can get different rhythmic patterns from it depending on the knob settings. I’ve recorded some of ‘em and then used the recordings in making beats. 😇
Are you guys planning a full demo of the Wampler Terraform or will you include it in a Pedal Jam episode or other video?
Flanger is an effect I get sick of pretty quickly, but I loved the sound of the EHX with the Harlot through those amps, and I can see some real potential in the camoflange.
I think you guys used retrosonic flanger first version where top highs are much lower than new version of this pedal. The new version is now almost identical to mistress
I just ordered the v2 ( waiting 4-6 weeks for it ) = Selling my E-Lady
I’ve had my 59 American Vintage Strat for several years now. Love it. I really think it’s as close to a Fender custom shop in terms of quality that you can find for the money
ada, odd harmonics vs even harmonics is essentially mid bump vs mid scoop due to the harmonic set applied to the delayed signal
33:40 was just straight up Zeppelin No Quarter live at Madison Square Garden. Just amazing.
Why Pedal Show dont make a video talk about Lovetone pedals and Alternatives ? Regards from Portugal Lisbon. I love your Videos !
Hey Dan (and Mick) love the show been watching since the beginning when you guys first started and love your content. I learn something new every week and it makes me want to start my own studio in the future. Dan i know you have a love for flanger pedals so I want to recommend one to you just as another colour to try out. I love my Ibanez CF7 Chorus/Flanger so much and have been using it for over 10 years now. Its from the Tone Lok series of pedals and i really like the tones i get out of it. It has a knob to control the delay time and I find it very useful for dialling in the perfect sound I'm looking for. The level does drop a bit in the wack'd mode but that is more for the crazy sounds (though i've found some very subtle setting there too), but the normal mode is full and fat. Love it on clean sounds (almost an always on pedal for me) and its killer after a fuzz for solos. The speed and depth controls can be set to 0 meaning you can set a fixed delay point which can be really cool for a solo with a short tape delay. Just wanted to mention it to you because I don't see a lot of people talking about it and its become a favourite of mine over the years. Keep up the awesome show guys and cheers from Perth! Would love to see you guys down under someday :)
RetroSonic has a v2 that is Brighter & supposedly near-Spot-on to the Mistress? ( also ) PastFX has two more Mistress-clones: The Reticon ( tons of controls ) and the Elastic Mattress??? Update: Ordered a Retro Sonic.
Dan, don't know if you've tried it, but that new Wampler Terraform has an AMAZING Flanger!!
On a second point thanks Dan for the technical lowdown on flangers, that will help building my own on the Zoia.
Anyone ever have one of those Electro Harmaonix Polychorus Analog Flanger that had Flanger, Chorus, and Double Tracking?
I got one of those. Pretty awesome.
“Is the flange 100% wet?”
I spat my coffee out at this point
JosEvan888 Flange is one of the all time greatest words ever. Makes me snigger every time I hear it.
Bahahahaha... TPS is branching out to comedy! Keep your flanges nice and wet for us, boys!
Had to google that one. Oh well...
It is the sole reason my first pedal was the Boss BF-2 and it is purple! I still use it after nearly 20 years and it rules!
Dan, I can't remember, have you played with the EQD Pyramids yet? It's got a bit of everything in there. Does it not get that high sparkle you're looking for?
Dan's looking for a modern pedal to nail the sound of his old analog EHX Mistress, they always try pedals with analog Mistress-inspired circuits. EQD Pyramids is a fully digital crazy machine, it can probably make a similar sound but it's a whole different type of pedal.