This really makes you question and think about which effects you "need." Sometimes you want a particular sound, but other times you just want some kind of movement/adding of depth, and you see from this episode that a lot of them can work for that.
Johnny Marr just used a regular Fender amp with tremolo, on How Soon is Now, rather than square wave, and played the famous Bo Diddley chug over the top at the same speed as the tremolo effect. There’s a video where he explains and demonstrates it.
That movement Dan's talking about with vibrato is something I love to do with tremolo, especially on my acoustic shows. Very subtle, fairly slow. Just makes it sound more alive. First time I ever tried a wet dry rig I used tremolo and a ping pong delay. I sat between both amps while my brother in law played big open chords, and cried. So incredible sounding.
I'm going to have to go to a 12 - step program, but this time for Dimension C: - "My Always - On Pedal". It's the sound of my youth. I love what mod effects do to the EQ, & not just the churning & bubbling they're known for.
As I understand it’s that’s an effect in Pro Tools rather than played on the guitar - I believe the band don’t play it live either and rely on a backing tape (my acronym) - so it’s square wave tremolo but not using a tremolo pedal.
I believe that exact boulevard of broken dreams effect is a preset on the fender mustang 1 v2 ...... It took me forever to figure out what that mustang effect was but its green day effect to a t .....it's the last mod effect I believe.
To: Dan and Mick Message: Can I make a humble suggestion? Take a look at the Anderton's tone room. They've got warm lamps on and strings of lights. There are warm and bright accents all around their room. The new pedal shed is still looking cold, dark, blue and a bit depressing. That black curtain feels like a dark void encroaching from your left and right and it takes up 1/3 of the total screen. I love your show. Your knowledge and experience have been so helpful to me. I continue to watch because the two of you are great players and I'm always learning. So thanks for that. The room could just be a bit easier on the eyes.
Zinger - Actually I couldn't care less about that. It's more about the psychology of color. Think about how many hours you spend watching TPS. It would be nice if the color scheme wasn't depressing, which it is.
Coming from the early 1990s shoegaze crowd, my sound back then was absolutely swamped with VB-2 vibrato, PN-2 tremolo, and CE-3 chorus, all feeding into a PS-2 delay and RV-2 reverb, which then hit my Ampeg VH-140C's reverb and chorus, but on my current pedalboard, the only modulation effect is a tc electronic Shaker vibrato, unless you count my tc electronic Mimiq as a modulation effect. The Boss CE-3 can be used like a VB-2 Vibrato. Just plug into Output A only, and use the Mode II setting, which outputs Wet on A/Dry on B. If I'm not mistaken, the CE-3 and VB-2 use the same Panasonic BBD chipset. That was how I used to simulate that thing Kevin Shields does with the vibrato arm on his guitar whilst strumming, which I could not do, since I played a Rickenbacker 330.
The flanger as a chorus thing is why I love the Deco so much. It can get very chorus like, and even vibey, while also being flangy. I think I just made up a lot of words, but it's just an amazing pedal. Thanks as always for the show.
1. The ADA flanger sounded great. Best I've heard of it in a demo. Got to try this out. 2. The big knob on the fuzz with all the little value lines is amusing. My knowledge of geometry tells me it gives no more fine control than any other pot knob, but it is definitely gives an illusion of more control. It is a maths placebo. 3. Another technique is "subliminal tremolo." Set time of tremolo to be on the ones of the measure. You can't really hear it, but it adds movement.
Another thing I really love about Strymon Timeline is it's Dual mode in Parallel mode. On stage I usually go stereo using one main amp with quarter notes + modulations like Tremolo, Filter, Phaser etc. and the other amp with dotted eight notes with a higher mix and more repeats but without any modulation, with kill dry. So basically on the left amp you hear your main delay with modulations and the right amp with ONLY dotted eight notes without the modulation effects. It's literally amazing.
I use a vibrato in mono, but I run it before a short, subtle delay, and it kinda creates a natural chorus sound that feels less wobbly and structured than a normal chorus pedal. It's hard to shut off once I've started!
That part in Won't Get Fooled Again is actually a pre-recorded synthesized track, similar to what they did in Baba O'Riley. Fun fact: In the early 70's footage Pete Townshend can still be seen manually cranking the volume on his amp for solos, then rolling it back off.
Mick, I always had trouble with Phaser vs Flanger as well. I think the way I delineate between the two is Flange happens "around" the notes and Phase happens "to" the note. Similarly, I think tremolo and harmonic tremolo act the same. Harmonic tremolo seems to happen "around" the notes and tremolo happens "to" the notes. PS. THAT FLANGER ON THE DELAY REPEATS! glorious glorious glorious. Thanks, guys and cheers!
Went straight to the board after watching this and got a heap of new sounds! A lite Chorus and a bit more modulation on the boss RV-5 and overdrive sounded huge! Even managed to sniff out a new song. Just for the halibut, the octave with the delay time right up on the EHX canyon is not a bad organ! Thanks for the tips guys! Keep up the “ace” work.
I have my vibrato on all the time as well to colour the signal. Then when I go to fuzz tone, I crank up the rate on a low depth and it cuts better than ever. Great stuff Dan.
This show is so good for all guitar players, but god damn does it hella hook up more advanced players looking to improve the small things ! Thank you so much for the videos!
Great show! I actually have used a phase 90 before the drives for all modulation for years. 1 knob, 1 o'clock for Hendrix and Floyd, turn it way down for Van Halen. It works. I have added tremolo now
Great show! The Empress Tremolo2 is also killer - variable waveforms, tap tempo, 8 memory presets, gorgeous sounding analogue signal path, and rhythmic patterns (with different strong/weak beat patterns....something I've never seen on any other term pedal) - highly recommended!
Diamond Trem also great. Only pedal that's never left the board for 10 years! Tap, variable waveforms, momentary switch and boost to compensate for perceived volume loss. Works as gorgeous clean boost too when depth turned down.
Great episode. I struggled with modulation for a while because I always thought it was just doing too much. When you figure out that just a hint can be used in a lot of ways, it’s a great tool
Yet another brilliant episode guys! I do a similar thing to number 5 with my bass. I put my CE-2W in the CE-1 mode and put the depth to max and rate at minimum. It instantly makes anything sound bigger and better!
I recorded an original song combining a reissue large box deluxe memory man with the vibrato setting of my Redwitch empress chorus and ended up with the most organic chorusing effect I have heard.
A couple of suggestions on episode or reoccurring episodes - "Hidden Gems", "Sleeper Pedals": each week or month search out these hidden gems/sleepers and study and present. And "Making The Inexpensive To Priceless " making the inexpensive pedals work to it's greatest potential! Love the channel!
I think that would very probably cause the prices to rise, just like what happens to old people amps reviewed by Johan segeborn. But it would be interesting nevertheless 😁😆
Ohhh, I just started this episode and I spot the Ventilator Mini! I can’t wait! Ever since I saw your Leslie episode, I knew I have to get one. I may FINALLY order one in the next couple of months but have been curious how the Mini stacks up with the full Ventilator II and if all the extra money is worth it. Here’s to the hope that anything like that will be mentioned.
The tap-a-whirl is the best tremolo ever. Its the only tremolo that can keep sync by redefining the 1-count by just hitting the tap tempo once. I just wish it had a harmonic mode
I love this video, it inspired me to think differently about the gear I currently have and set it up in an entirely new way. I'm looking forward to really pushing my creativity with this. I've recently come into possession of an amp with built in tremolo. Using my pedals and such I'll be able to run a wet/dry amp setup. Opening new (to me) tones to create with.
Ever thought of doing a short educational series on promoting music people can get into, with all this noise of a Zillion bands, love your recommendation on music to listen too as you have have great taste. Starter. Neal Schon ( Journey’s guitarist) makes killer albums nobody knows about! .. and what a player.
The "Jet plane" modulation was done back in the day in one box. Ibanez had the Jetlyzer, which was a drive - fuzz perhaps - and a phaser in the same box. I'm sure there was also a box called the Jetphase which may have been from Roland. Both boxes came out in the late 70's from memory.
Thanks guys, you made me pause your video to go listen to "Won't Get Fooled Again" because its an awesome track that I haven't heard in a while! :) BTW, its actually an organ playing the part not a guitar. Still awesome.
Shame on you, Mick for not knowing your Who catalog!!! TBH I’m no expert, but I believe what you were thinking of was Won’t Get Fooled Again. However the sound you’re thinking of was a synth! I don’t believe Pete was a big tremolo user
@@danielakerman8241 I'm pretty sure you're right - as far as I know Pete Townsend used synths with sequencers for that and I think Baba O'Riley and Who's Next. But there's no shame in that. Sometimes remembering things in front of a camera is harder than in front of a computer. Great episode, guys!
Great show again lads. I’m a tremolo nut and I love Phaser/Filter effects... when are JHS or Keeley or Boss going to make you a D&M modulation pedal? Harmonic Trem on one side for Mick and Electric Mistress style Flanger on the other for Dan - The “Mod You Later” maybe?
Great and educational as always guys! This may sound funny but I just wanted to say I love the description as well...Mick always does such a great job with them, but this one really made me smile on a day when I needed it!!
Dan says, "I am rethinking my approach to my organ now!" That's ace. It always needs proper attention says a 50 year old or it can have as many problems as an old an old tape delay. LOL. But seriously, this is another fantastic show. I have a Subdecay Vagabond term/harmonic trem that has an Env Shift knob that allows increases or decreases the speed based on amount of pick attack. Subdecay has some very interesting things, btw.
Great show as always! Kind of off topic but was just thinking it would be interesting to hear your guys thoughts on marijuana and playing music. Many would say it enhances their ability to play with feel and creativity and a huge part of the sound is what is going on in the mind of the musician. Curious about your thoughts on this matter and any anecdotal experiences, good, bad or funny that you may have had over the years with substances and music!
I wonder if an aspect of our love for those slightly phased/modulated textures on drive sounds has to do with our expectation of that type of sound from various famous recordings; it seems to me that often time to track guitar and make them sound big you usually intentionally introduce some skewed phase relationship either through double tracking or the physical phenomena of mic placement. Modern recordings that seem to remove all of this sound sterile imo by comparison. Phase never ceases to amaze me as this unique phenomena that sits somewhere in between our relative perception of a thing or sound artifact and the thing itself, I think that’s why it’s so captivating when it’s slightly manipulated, brings this human quality to the sound, that “movement”
That Pedal Show thanks guys! It's been sitting in my head after finishing this recent recording session in which phase and all that was so important to getting the guitars to sit and feel right, so much to think about!
OK here's something I do with my dual speed Tremodilla (Diaz) The fast speed is so fast that it's hard to discern but gives it just a killer tone and the slow as a pretty much normal trem tone Give it a go you might like Always experiment Cheer's
I am in awe of the balletic grace with which Mick points out the active amps. But seriously, folks, thanks for another entertaining and educational video.
For #2 organ sound, try using CS1 maxed out into a light over drive and I use the sub n up but most octavers would work ... Then throw on a phaser or flashback and you're in organ y heaven!
For the wet/dry VB-2 thing, another option is the Keeley 30ms, that is always on for me when I'm doing the wet-dry thing....makes it sound just so much fuller!
My TPS long sleeves t-shirt arrived yesterday and I wore it to rehearsal last night. I have never played better. Coincidence? Thanks fellows for all that you do, and even more for how you do it!
A few ideas for some custom D&M Keeley Modulation pedals: The Dan-ger Flanger The Micki Vent Damn, you know that feeling when you make yourself laugh. Yup, I'm there now.
The Ibanez Airplane Flanger is a copy of Gilbert's vintage ADA Flanger big box. He manually moved the enhance knob for the effect on the original, but the Take Off Mode on the Ibanez simulates it.
I loved this show all cool sounds and textures, all done very musical. this I got unlike that show 2 weeks back. As a side note I went and listened to almost all of Radioheads Discograpy and well just not a fan I stopped listening to commercial radio in the 80's. so the only time I hear anything after the 70's is when my wife forces me to listen to it in the car. So maybe I have missed a lot of good music. When you guys play it is very inspiring!!!!
Mick, Simon mega thank you for adding the timestamps! I learn about a lot of new bands and songs from your videos(Blake Mills for instance). Is anyone here cataloguing the songs/artists discussed in TPS episodes?
The timestamps are important to someone like me who gets reminded of an interesting sound, then forgets which video it was from. Now i can search on youtube and youtube digs up the descriptions too! Cheers!🍻
@@jrr832 Just not keen on midi. Never have been. For those who like it and use it I'm sure it works well. But it's not something I've ever felt a need for. Simply a personal choice.
Guys, thank you for everything you do! You’ve been instrumental in my electric guitar journey (and acoustic too actually). I have a cellist friend who has just discovered electric cello, specifically 2cellos and I’m planning to direct him to you, and a video like this will hopefully help him understand some of the basics. Along those lines, I also work with some young guitarists starting out, what would you guys think of a quick overview video of all of the basic effect sounds so the young folks can direct their rabbit trails? (Also, this is my wife’s account, I guess I should get my own, don’t mind the username...) -Aaron
Completely unrelated to todays video but I thought I'd let you guys know that I just finished a telecaster build inspired by Red. A Cady Apple red warmoth telecaster with a broadcaster bridge pu and a twisted tele neck. Maple neck instead of rosewood. Looks great sounds great and makes me smile!
I had my old Ibanez Flanger up for sale. I ended the sale after watching this! I can't believe I hadn't messed with it more after playing for 35 years now. I was stuck in the Van Halen mode. Now I'm using it more like a chorus pedal. It's like a new toy!
Thanks for the enlightenment guys! Iv'e got so much knob adjusting and experimenting to do tonight!! I have this tremolo pedal i don't love as a tremolo, but levels turned down, it does a thing. Almost a treble boost type thing. Just brightens the signal up a bit. Sometimes happy accidents came be great
Ace episode guys! I'm a techie and I have a good grasp of Dan's explanations. However, when it comes to Flanger vs Phaser vs Univibe, I characterize their fundamental sound thusly - Swirly, Chewy and Syrupy. I believe those are technical terms, no? :-) Thanks for the tip on changing the speed for dynamic effect. I sold my Deja Vibe that had the built-in treadle when I bought my Mini Deja Vibe (which I thoroughly love). No worries, you reminded me that I can use an expression pedal to change the speed on the fly. Off to the woodshed!
Now realise how closely related these “modulation” types are, I only use a Strymon Mobius for Modulation, but now hope to get the most out of this machine. I know you guys aren’t the biggest fans of amp’s effects loops, but please could you explain their pro’s and con’s when used for modulation. Great Show
Pros: keep effects 'clean' if you use gain in the amp; keeps digital effects away from the front end of your amp and gain stages with pedals. That's it. Cons: FX loops are woefully inconsistent from amp to amp in terms of tone/level/headroom; often very tone-sucky on long cable runs; if you use nice analog mods, you miss all the lovely interaction with the drives and amp; brings a whole new world of ground loops and isolation issues. They're essential for some styles of music -basically anything that uses high gain amps where 'clean' verbs and delays are a must. You're essentially treating your loop effects like outboard gear. But for the kind of sounds Dan and I tend to go for and the amps we use, FX loops are unnecessary and kinda spoil that glorious interaction of truly great pedals. Hope that helps!
I assume all drives were placed before modulation, but it would have been helpful to hear that mentioned. Also, each time you added drive, it would have been cool to hear it quickly switched after modulation to show the different tones possible. I know from experience that drives may squeeze the movement modulation would achieve, but, as with Phaser before or after Fuzz, both are sweet sounds. A brief minute or two demonstrating the difference that happens for each modulation would be enlightening, and helpful to so many players out there searching for new tones. Keep up the wonderful content. This was still highly illuminating.
My first amp was an Ampeg VH-140C 2x12 stereo chorus combo, which does its chorus by applying a vibrato to one channel, and I always used it with deep depth and slow rate.
Hi Dan & Mick! Another type of modulation I guess is panning? I’ve got a BOSS PN-2 pan/trem pedal. Set up two amps either side of the stage and use a square wave fast pan between them. Gets pretty trippy.....
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This really makes you question and think about which effects you "need." Sometimes you want a particular sound, but other times you just want some kind of movement/adding of depth, and you see from this episode that a lot of them can work for that.
17:56 Dan: “Show us your organ.” 17:58 Mick: “We’re turning into Andertons” 😂😂😂🤣 blimey you two are a lot of fun
Justie1220 did you hear about the streaker in church? They caught him by the organ.
Danish Pete would be proud
Odd how the Vibrat-O followed the Organ ...
followed by the hybrid, pick-holding, high-five...they need an emoji!
10:40 "Whereas if you're bending down to sort the... knob out, as it were..."
John Squire...a master at using all these effects in the manner you guys explain them individually to fill out a sound in a mix.
“If they can’t hear you, then you’re not loud enough.” Should be a TPS shirt.
Sean Sanford I’d buy two!
I’d buy as well!
Or “if You cant hear your self - stop thinking or play louder”
Awesome idea!
Just take my money, I want one 😄
Johnny Marr just used a regular Fender amp with tremolo, on How Soon is Now, rather than square wave, and played the famous Bo Diddley chug over the top at the same speed as the tremolo effect. There’s a video where he explains and demonstrates it.
That movement Dan's talking about with vibrato is something I love to do with tremolo, especially on my acoustic shows. Very subtle, fairly slow. Just makes it sound more alive. First time I ever tried a wet dry rig I used tremolo and a ping pong delay. I sat between both amps while my brother in law played big open chords, and cried. So incredible sounding.
I like subtle but fast
I'm going to have to go to a 12 - step program, but this time for Dimension C: - "My Always - On Pedal". It's the sound of my youth. I love what mod effects do to the EQ, & not just the churning & bubbling they're known for.
When Dan just grabs the tuning key and perfectly cranks it down to Drop D in one blast of rock n roll-ness.......awesome!
The intro of Greenday's - Boulevard of Broken Dreams is a good example of a square wave tremolo.
exactly what i thought at that moment :D it's really nice
As I understand it’s that’s an effect in Pro Tools rather than played on the guitar - I believe the band don’t play it live either and rely on a backing tape (my acronym) - so it’s square wave tremolo but not using a tremolo pedal.
I love that green day song
I believe that exact boulevard of broken dreams effect is a preset on the fender mustang 1 v2 ...... It took me forever to figure out what that mustang effect was but its green day effect to a t .....it's the last mod effect I believe.
That was the first song that came into my mind when they played with that effect.
To: Dan and Mick Message: Can I make a humble suggestion? Take a look at the Anderton's tone room. They've got warm lamps on and strings of lights. There are warm and bright accents all around their room. The new pedal shed is still looking cold, dark, blue and a bit depressing. That black curtain feels like a dark void encroaching from your left and right and it takes up 1/3 of the total screen. I love your show. Your knowledge and experience have been so helpful to me. I continue to watch because the two of you are great players and I'm always learning. So thanks for that. The room could just be a bit easier on the eyes.
Zinger - Actually I couldn't care less about that. It's more about the psychology of color. Think about how many hours you spend watching TPS. It would be nice if the color scheme wasn't depressing, which it is.
Coming from the early 1990s shoegaze crowd, my sound back then was absolutely swamped with VB-2 vibrato, PN-2 tremolo, and CE-3 chorus, all feeding into a PS-2 delay and RV-2 reverb, which then hit my Ampeg VH-140C's reverb and chorus, but on my current pedalboard, the only modulation effect is a tc electronic Shaker vibrato, unless you count my tc electronic Mimiq as a modulation effect.
The Boss CE-3 can be used like a VB-2 Vibrato. Just plug into Output A only, and use the Mode II setting, which outputs Wet on A/Dry on B. If I'm not mistaken, the CE-3 and VB-2 use the same Panasonic BBD chipset. That was how I used to simulate that thing Kevin Shields does with the vibrato arm on his guitar whilst strumming, which I could not do, since I played a Rickenbacker 330.
The flanger as a chorus thing is why I love the Deco so much. It can get very chorus like, and even vibey, while also being flangy. I think I just made up a lot of words, but it's just an amazing pedal. Thanks as always for the show.
+1 for the Deco. Best chorus flange and slapback all in one box.
perfect description words actually! haha
1. The ADA flanger sounded great. Best I've heard of it in a demo. Got to try this out.
2. The big knob on the fuzz with all the little value lines is amusing. My knowledge of geometry tells me it gives no more fine control than any other pot knob, but it is definitely gives an illusion of more control. It is a maths placebo.
3. Another technique is "subliminal tremolo." Set time of tremolo to be on the ones of the measure. You can't really hear it, but it adds movement.
Another thing I really love about Strymon Timeline is it's Dual mode in Parallel mode. On stage I usually go stereo using one main amp with quarter notes + modulations like Tremolo, Filter, Phaser etc. and the other amp with dotted eight notes with a higher mix and more repeats but without any modulation, with kill dry.
So basically on the left amp you hear your main delay with modulations and the right amp with ONLY dotted eight notes without the modulation effects. It's literally amazing.
I use a vibrato in mono, but I run it before a short, subtle delay, and it kinda creates a natural chorus sound that feels less wobbly and structured than a normal chorus pedal. It's hard to shut off once I've started!
That part in Won't Get Fooled Again is actually a pre-recorded synthesized track, similar to what they did in Baba O'Riley. Fun fact: In the early 70's footage Pete Townshend can still be seen manually cranking the volume on his amp for solos, then rolling it back off.
I feel the bridge pickup on a strat really comes into its own with modulation
The timing of this was funny because I just discovered the vibrato trick this week with my HX Stomp!
Mick, I always had trouble with Phaser vs Flanger as well. I think the way I delineate between the two is Flange happens "around" the notes and Phase happens "to" the note. Similarly, I think tremolo and harmonic tremolo act the same. Harmonic tremolo seems to happen "around" the notes and tremolo happens "to" the notes. PS. THAT FLANGER ON THE DELAY REPEATS! glorious glorious glorious. Thanks, guys and cheers!
You guys help me understand how to listen to what the pedals do. Thank you
Went straight to the board after watching this and got a heap of new sounds! A lite Chorus and a bit more modulation on the boss RV-5 and overdrive sounded huge! Even managed to sniff out a new song. Just for the halibut, the octave with the delay time right up on the EHX canyon is not a bad organ! Thanks for the tips guys! Keep up the “ace” work.
I have my vibrato on all the time as well to colour the signal. Then when I go to fuzz tone, I crank up the rate on a low depth and it cuts better than ever. Great stuff Dan.
Dan, your playing was so fun to listen to. Thanks.
My favorite Chorus was my old Memory Man. Just really thick and dirty. Added a ton of depth to 9th and 13th chords.
Perfect timing guys! I just got a Ripply Fall from Jam Pedals (Chorus/Vibrato/Phaser). Much appreciated!
Yeah with that thing all on you get a Vibe thrown in there too
This one was nearly all business, sans tangents. I want my tangents, damn it! 😜
There was a lot to cover on this subject. I had to watch five times.
This show is so good for all guitar players, but god damn does it hella hook up more advanced players looking to improve the small things ! Thank you so much for the videos!
Great show! I actually have used a phase 90 before the drives for all modulation for years. 1 knob, 1 o'clock for Hendrix and Floyd, turn it way down for Van Halen. It works. I have added tremolo now
I love what you said about the vibrato effect. The Caverns by Keeley does something very similar (the reverb side) and it adds SO MUCH to the sound 🙂🎸
Great show! The Empress Tremolo2 is also killer - variable waveforms, tap tempo, 8 memory presets, gorgeous sounding analogue signal path, and rhythmic patterns (with different strong/weak beat patterns....something I've never seen on any other term pedal) - highly recommended!
Diamond Trem also great. Only pedal that's never left the board for 10 years! Tap, variable waveforms, momentary switch and boost to compensate for perceived volume loss. Works as gorgeous clean boost too when depth turned down.
The tremolo on "Crimson and Clover" is classic.
John Kelley Brown, oh yeah! Especially on the long version with it added to the vocal as well, just stunning! :-)
I use chorus to simulate organ sounds too, but also add tremolo. The two together can come very close. The old DOD FX-60 does this well.
Great episode. I struggled with modulation for a while because I always thought it was just doing too much. When you figure out that just a hint can be used in a lot of ways, it’s a great tool
More Tangents is a band name I'm currently considering... Cheers from Chicago. Thank you for making Fridays a bit better~~~
Yet another brilliant episode guys! I do a similar thing to number 5 with my bass. I put my CE-2W in the CE-1 mode and put the depth to max and rate at minimum. It instantly makes anything sound bigger and better!
very inclusive with an abundance of useful detail ... thanks
The amazing singer/guitarist Taylor Goldsmith from the band Dawes talked about leaving his original VB-2 on during entire gigs on his Rig Rundown.
I recorded an original song combining a reissue large box deluxe memory man with the vibrato setting of my Redwitch empress chorus and ended up with the most organic chorusing effect I have heard.
Lovely sounds on this one
I love puttering around my guitar room and listening to TPS thank you again for this wonderful content
Didn't realize it was Friday until this popped up in my feed. Bless you both
"Go forth and modulate."
Your descriptions are killer! 😂
Ha! Thank you!
This innuendo-packed episode was JUST what I needed today - thanks guys, brilliant content as always :D
TC Electronics Pipeline tremolo pedal does most everything that one does, including tap tempo. And it sounds glorious. Highly recommended.
A couple of suggestions on episode or reoccurring episodes - "Hidden Gems", "Sleeper Pedals": each week or month search out these hidden gems/sleepers and study and present. And "Making The Inexpensive To Priceless " making the inexpensive pedals work to it's greatest potential! Love the channel!
I think that would very probably cause the prices to rise, just like what happens to old people amps reviewed by Johan segeborn. But it would be interesting nevertheless 😁😆
Great episode! I have my Deja Vibe as the first pedal in my chain. Also, moving modulation pedals around makes for many fun discoveries.
Ohhh, I just started this episode and I spot the Ventilator Mini! I can’t wait! Ever since I saw your Leslie episode, I knew I have to get one. I may FINALLY order one in the next couple of months but have been curious how the Mini stacks up with the full Ventilator II and if all the extra money is worth it. Here’s to the hope that anything like that will be mentioned.
My favourite example of awesome tremolo is After Dark by Tito and Tarantula, check out that solo!
I can't tell you how many problems I get when I "bend down to sort my knob out"
As always an awesome show gentlemen. B
The vibe effect is just on another level as useful/musical than the others, even though they are all interesting.
The tap-a-whirl is the best tremolo ever. Its the only tremolo that can keep sync by redefining the 1-count by just hitting the tap tempo once. I just wish it had a harmonic mode
That bit with the flanger around 53:00 is F-ing amazing
I don't remember the Electric Mistress going that extreme.
I love this video, it inspired me to think differently about the gear I currently have and set it up in an entirely new way. I'm looking forward to really pushing my creativity with this. I've recently come into possession of an amp with built in tremolo. Using my pedals and such I'll be able to run a wet/dry amp setup. Opening new (to me) tones to create with.
Ever thought of doing a short educational series on promoting music people can get into, with all this noise of a Zillion bands, love your recommendation on music to listen too as you have have great taste. Starter. Neal Schon ( Journey’s guitarist) makes killer albums nobody knows about! .. and what a player.
The "Jet plane" modulation was done back in the day in one box. Ibanez had the Jetlyzer, which was a drive - fuzz perhaps - and a phaser in the same box. I'm sure there was also a box called the Jetphase which may have been from Roland. Both boxes came out in the late 70's from memory.
Master of Rotary as organ - Oz Noy.
Does magic with it.
My Happiness by Powderfinger! Great, great song. That riff sounds particularly brilliant when done on an old Maestro phaser!
Thanks guys, you made me pause your video to go listen to "Won't Get Fooled Again" because its an awesome track that I haven't heard in a while! :)
BTW, its actually an organ playing the part not a guitar. Still awesome.
Well, having sold my vibrato pedal after deeming it pointless/ useless I'm now feeling like a bit of an organ.....
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Shame on you, Mick for not knowing your Who catalog!!! TBH I’m no expert, but I believe what you were thinking of was Won’t Get Fooled Again. However the sound you’re thinking of was a synth! I don’t believe Pete was a big tremolo user
Mick, those were some tasty licks on the Vent.
Ross Wardrope I sold my VB-2 back when they were still going for $250, only to see them climb to $500+ before the VB-2w came out.
@@danielakerman8241 I'm pretty sure you're right - as far as I know Pete Townsend used synths with sequencers for that and I think Baba O'Riley and Who's Next. But there's no shame in that. Sometimes remembering things in front of a camera is harder than in front of a computer. Great episode, guys!
Mick your blue strat sounds amazing after all those mods u been doing... I really dig it bro
Thanks Matt! Still haven't done the pickups!
Great show again lads. I’m a tremolo nut and I love Phaser/Filter effects... when are JHS or Keeley or Boss going to make you a D&M modulation pedal? Harmonic Trem on one side for Mick and Electric Mistress style Flanger on the other for Dan - The “Mod You Later” maybe?
Great and educational as always guys! This may sound funny but I just wanted to say I love the description as well...Mick always does such a great job with them, but this one really made me smile on a day when I needed it!!
My Line 6 M5 always gets a good workout when you have videos with modulation as the subject. Thanks guys. Lots of fun playing along...making noise.
Dan says, "I am rethinking my approach to my organ now!" That's ace. It always needs proper attention says a 50 year old or it can have as many problems as an old an old tape delay. LOL. But seriously, this is another fantastic show. I have a Subdecay Vagabond term/harmonic trem that has an Env Shift knob that allows increases or decreases the speed based on amount of pick attack. Subdecay has some very interesting things, btw.
@51:26 This is how Adrian Belew got the “percussion” sound on “Genius Of Love” by Tom Tom Club.
Not sure what the tremolo circuit looks like but the tremolo in the old Ampeg Rockets is cool. It really different than what Fender did.
Yeah very cool I've got one The Silvertone has a good one too Both different
When I found out how close Chorus n flangers are schematically my mind seriously was blown. Science 😄🎸🎛🔊🎼🤟❤️
Great show as always! Kind of off topic but was just thinking it would be interesting to hear your guys thoughts on marijuana and playing music. Many would say it enhances their ability to play with feel and creativity and a huge part of the sound is what is going on in the mind of the musician. Curious about your thoughts on this matter and any anecdotal experiences, good, bad or funny that you may have had over the years with substances and music!
I wonder if an aspect of our love for those slightly phased/modulated textures on drive sounds has to do with our expectation of that type of sound from various famous recordings; it seems to me that often time to track guitar and make them sound big you usually intentionally introduce some skewed phase relationship either through double tracking or the physical phenomena of mic placement. Modern recordings that seem to remove all of this sound sterile imo by comparison. Phase never ceases to amaze me as this unique phenomena that sits somewhere in between our relative perception of a thing or sound artifact and the thing itself, I think that’s why it’s so captivating when it’s slightly manipulated, brings this human quality to the sound, that “movement”
Yes blimmin excellent point!
That Pedal Show thanks guys! It's been sitting in my head after finishing this recent recording session in which phase and all that was so important to getting the guitars to sit and feel right, so much to think about!
OK here's something I do with my dual speed Tremodilla (Diaz) The fast speed is so fast that it's hard to discern but gives it just a killer tone and the slow as a pretty much normal trem tone Give it a go you might like Always experiment Cheer's
#9 sounds akin to the effect Paul Westerberg used on The Replacements' "Within Your Reach."
Thanks for the mention of the inimitable Robin Trower! Nice bit of Bridge of Sighs there, Mick!
Ha, thanks Night! Would have been even better if I'd got the notes right!
@@ThatPedalShow You were close enough to recognise it, Mick! Well done!
I am in awe of the balletic grace with which Mick points out the active amps.
But seriously, folks, thanks for another entertaining and educational video.
For #2 organ sound, try using CS1 maxed out into a light over drive and I use the sub n up but most octavers would work ... Then throw on a phaser or flashback and you're in organ y heaven!
For the wet/dry VB-2 thing, another option is the Keeley 30ms, that is always on for me when I'm doing the wet-dry thing....makes it sound just so much fuller!
I have a Keeley 30ms ,,, how do you hook it up in your wet/dry rig?
@@mobydick3895 Oh man, this is a long time ago, not using it anymore. I imagine I just had the Keeley 30ms going into the wet amp.
My TPS long sleeves t-shirt arrived yesterday and I wore it to rehearsal last night. I have never played better. Coincidence? Thanks fellows for all that you do, and even more for how you do it!
Hahahaha!!! Because tone baby, because tone. :0)
A few ideas for some custom D&M Keeley Modulation pedals:
The Dan-ger Flanger
The Micki Vent
Damn, you know that feeling when you make yourself laugh. Yup, I'm there now.
The best chorus is indeed a flanger - I think I'm going to get the Elec Lady or the ADA after hearing them
The Ibanez Airplane Flanger is a copy of Gilbert's vintage ADA Flanger big box. He manually moved the enhance knob for the effect on the original, but the Take Off Mode on the Ibanez simulates it.
I loved this show all cool sounds and textures, all done very musical. this I got unlike that show 2 weeks back. As a side note I went and listened to almost all of Radioheads Discograpy and well just not a fan I stopped listening to commercial radio in the 80's. so the only time I hear anything after the 70's is when my wife forces me to listen to it in the car. So maybe I have missed a lot of good music. When you guys play it is very inspiring!!!!
Mick, Simon mega thank you for adding the timestamps! I learn about a lot of new bands and songs from your videos(Blake Mills for instance). Is anyone here cataloguing the songs/artists discussed in TPS episodes?
The timestamps are important to someone like me who gets reminded of an interesting sound, then forgets which video it was from. Now i can search on youtube and youtube digs up the descriptions too! Cheers!🍻
At 6:36 , I love this comment from Mick: "so the band is all synced on the same midi crap!" My sentiments exactly!
All the band's delay settings are in time and that's a problem?
@@jrr832 Just not keen on midi. Never have been. For those who like it and use it I'm sure it works well. But it's not something I've ever felt a need for. Simply a personal choice.
Guys, thank you for everything you do! You’ve been instrumental in my electric guitar journey (and acoustic too actually).
I have a cellist friend who has just discovered electric cello, specifically 2cellos and I’m planning to direct him to you, and a video like this will hopefully help him understand some of the basics. Along those lines, I also work with some young guitarists starting out, what would you guys think of a quick overview video of all of the basic effect sounds so the young folks can direct their rabbit trails? (Also, this is my wife’s account, I guess I should get my own, don’t mind the username...) -Aaron
oh...and STOP MAKING ME WANT THAT VENT!!! It sounds dead on Leslie-esque.....just perfect Doppler swish.
I know right ?
Something I figured out the other day: using a tremolo with flanger to create a through-zero-Flanger effect.
Completely unrelated to todays video but I thought I'd let you guys know that I just finished a telecaster build inspired by Red. A Cady Apple red warmoth telecaster with a broadcaster bridge pu and a twisted tele neck. Maple neck instead of rosewood. Looks great sounds great and makes me smile!
So many take-aways from this week's show. Thanks so much!
I had my old Ibanez Flanger up for sale. I ended the sale after watching this! I can't believe I hadn't messed with it more after playing for 35 years now. I was stuck in the Van Halen mode. Now I'm using it more like a chorus pedal. It's like a new toy!
CCR - Born on the bayou was my intro to tremolo. Cuban Slide by The Pretenders is another great trem song.
Thanks for the enlightenment guys! Iv'e got so much knob adjusting and experimenting to do tonight!! I have this tremolo pedal i don't love as a tremolo, but levels turned down, it does a thing. Almost a treble boost type thing. Just brightens the signal up a bit. Sometimes happy accidents came be great
Ace episode guys! I'm a techie and I have a good grasp of Dan's explanations. However, when it comes to Flanger vs Phaser vs Univibe, I characterize their fundamental sound thusly - Swirly, Chewy and Syrupy. I believe those are technical terms, no? :-) Thanks for the tip on changing the speed for dynamic effect. I sold my Deja Vibe that had the built-in treadle when I bought my Mini Deja Vibe (which I thoroughly love). No worries, you reminded me that I can use an expression pedal to change the speed on the fly. Off to the woodshed!
Now realise how closely related these “modulation” types are,
I only use a Strymon Mobius for Modulation, but now hope to get the most out of this machine.
I know you guys aren’t the biggest fans of amp’s effects loops, but please could you explain their pro’s and con’s when used for modulation. Great Show
Pros: keep effects 'clean' if you use gain in the amp; keeps digital effects away from the front end of your amp and gain stages with pedals. That's it.
Cons: FX loops are woefully inconsistent from amp to amp in terms of tone/level/headroom; often very tone-sucky on long cable runs; if you use nice analog mods, you miss all the lovely interaction with the drives and amp; brings a whole new world of ground loops and isolation issues.
They're essential for some styles of music -basically anything that uses high gain amps where 'clean' verbs and delays are a must. You're essentially treating your loop effects like outboard gear. But for the kind of sounds Dan and I tend to go for and the amps we use, FX loops are unnecessary and kinda spoil that glorious interaction of truly great pedals. Hope that helps!
Very Much So, Will try out disconnecting the Loop. Ta very much
Dan! Mick! You should try Fairfield Circuitry pedals in the show. I think you'd love the Meet Maude delay and the Accountant compressor.
I assume all drives were placed before modulation, but it would have been helpful to hear that mentioned. Also, each time you added drive, it would have been cool to hear it quickly switched after modulation to show the different tones possible. I know from experience that drives may squeeze the movement modulation would achieve, but, as with Phaser before or after Fuzz, both are sweet sounds. A brief minute or two demonstrating the difference that happens for each modulation would be enlightening, and helpful to so many players out there searching for new tones. Keep up the wonderful content. This was still highly illuminating.
Exactly how I've been using the VB-2 for years now, it's such a great sound
My first amp was an Ampeg VH-140C 2x12 stereo chorus combo, which does its chorus by applying a vibrato to one channel, and I always used it with deep depth and slow rate.
"100 watts of pure love" - Dans Tinder profile.
thank fuzz it's friday!
Amis Muuhn another good t shirt idea...
Haven't watched it yet and I already know that this is RIGHT up my street. 😊
Hi Dan & Mick! Another type of modulation I guess is panning? I’ve got a BOSS PN-2 pan/trem pedal. Set up two amps either side of the stage and use a square wave fast pan between them. Gets pretty trippy.....
Ooh yeah! Add a delay pedal and jazz cigarette. Hours of fun!
Would you like to borrow it for a show? I haven’t had 2 amps for a while so would love to see what you could do with it!