"best jumpscares" implies that a jumpscare is what makes a horror movie good. If a horror movie trailer is filled with jumpscares, I am glad as I know not to waste my time on it. There won't be any real horror, and it will just be "booh! haha gotcha" trash.
@@BaltuxThis just in, people can like jumpscares. 😱😱😱 Not everyone jerks off their ego to psychological horror. Sometimes it's just fun to watch jumpscare horror. 😱😱
Never been my problem. I hear that a movie is coming out and I'm like "cool", then I never watch the trailer and forget that the movie is coming out and watch it two years later.
My problem is that I go to movies, they show trailers before the movie, and often these days the closer you get to a movie's release date the more information gets spoiled in the pre-movie trailers. Plus, they show the same trailers over and over again so it's not easy to forget what happens in them.
Kangaroo Jack is literally my reference point for a misleading trailers. When I see a film that is NOTHING what the trailer showed us, I’ve said on multiple occasions, “I’ve been Kangaroo Jack’d”
I never saw Kangaroo Jack, and up until just now, I didn't know that the Kangaroo didn't really talk. That's pretty messed up. The movie isn't about a silly talking Kangaroo? But... That's what the trailer showed it to be. That's pretty bad.
The problem with trailers feeling like they give away too much, is that they answer all the questions that are asked, without asking new ones. If the trailer does not leave any unanswered question it feels like there aren't any, regardless of the truth.
Exactly. This is why I see people who want the whole plot in the trailer as less intelligent, inferior minded people. An experience where your brain literally never has to think at all is what they want.
Seeing people as inferior or lacking intelligence, because of their trailer preferences, is hilarious. I’m not one of the people you’ve described but it wouldn’t make me less intelligent if I enjoyed spoilers lol. There’re intelligent people on both sides of the ballot
As someone who just LITERALLY WATCHED The Fall Guy today, I can guarantee you, they don't spoil SHIT in the trailer. Most of what was "spoiled" is introduced in the first act of the movie.
honestly the trailer is SO good having seen the movie. what seem like spoilers are infact, 100% hoodwinks. they dupe you into thinking you know, when you dont.
Yeah, I guess I never watched the three minute trailer, but the trailers that played before movies I didn't think had too many spoilers just some funny action scenes. I thought they were good trailers. I guess there was internet drama about this trailer, but it's definitely not one I'd pick.
I remember the trailer for Pixar’s Brave made it seem like it focused on her “fighting for her own hand” but we got the the theatre and it was basically brother bear 😅
I work at an indie arthouse theater, and occasionally we do a "preview night" for our members to hype up some upcoming films, and have them vote on what they're most excited about. Without fail, the trailer that gives the most away about the plot does best, and if I only have a quick teaser trailer that gives a "vibe" and no info to show, it gets downvoted the most. People want to know exactly what they're about to see. As a friend told me one time about his mom "she loves movies but hates surprises."
It makes sense but god that hurts to hear. I understand people want to know what they’re walking into but it makes me sad fewer people are willing to take a chance on something.
@@Industry-insider Counterpoint, if a big factor of your enjoyment of a movie is just being surprised by new events are you really engaging with it? And if someone is enjoying the movie they chose after hearing the gist of the plot aren't they likely engaging with it more?
That goes along with the general issue that the monster we never see will almost always be the most terrifying. The more the audience knows about the monster, the more we can meme it lol
I love when they show jump scares in trailers, it lets me know to avoid the movie. Jump scares are the lamest common denominator. Startle jumps to fake "scariness" is cheesy. Put some real work into the scares and creepiness. My dad did that all the time at home, just because he popped a bag by me when it was quiet and forced my startle reflex, doesn't mean he was "scary," any more than it means the movie is scary. Of course by this logic, it's also not good to show them in the trailer, though :D
The trailer for the Emperor's New Groove shows them swinging on a vine and getting tangled around a tree. Pacha says "Don't worry your highness, I gotcha. You're safe with me... Or not." In the movie, he NEVER SAYS "or not." This has pissed me off for the last 24 years!!!
Wait until you find out about the trailer for Flushed Away, where the rat has 2 butlers, completely ruining the idea that he lives alone and therefore should leave and go with Rita. They just edited them out of the final prodict.
That movie was a nightmare to work on, so I'm not surprised tons of scenes were edited differently. Watch "The sweatbox" documentary about it. Also other movies have trailers made from scratch to avoid spoiling anything, like Frozen. Or infamously, Madam Web has a cringe voiceover to exposition the whole backstory, that's not in the actual film.
The only part I remember from that trailer is the two of them having the deadpan convinced before going over the waterfall, climaxing with Kuzco yelling "boooooyaaaahhhahhh" And that deffo does happen in the movie so 🤔 we seem to find ourselves at a draw
My favorite lying trailer was Guardians of the Galaxy 2. The trailer made it seem that the big electricity monster was some final or climactic fight and it was the opening credits. We had no idea about the rest of the movie and it was great. I also agree that keeping the tone correct is important in keeping the rug pull effect away from audiences.
The rug pull effect is exactly why I would prefer a trailer reveal a bit more to me. I don't wanna go in expecting an action movie and get a shitty romcom. Lol
@-ThatGuy- exactly, I think the key is keep the biggest secrets and reveals a surprise but absolutely do not sell the movie as basically a different genre.. shouldn't be so difficult and yet.. 😅
See that sort of thing is why people who act like a movie trailer for a movie that hasn’t even released yet has “spoiled the entire movie” are incredibly silly. Like how tf do you know
Don't they show Drax killing the thing in one of the trailers? You thought they spoiled that? Plus they showed ego and mantis, I don't think anyone thought they weren't gonna be involved in the finale. Idk. Idk bc my nerd brain had already consumed breakdown videos of the trailer, announcement of the movie/plot at comic con, etc. So my experience isn't exactly "general"
I went into this thinking "yes they spoil way too much" but you have a good point that usually you'd forget most details a few days after seeing the trailer. Though with Superhero Movies I do feel it's slightly different because trailers are followed by waves of analysis videos and social media posts that can be trickier to avoid than just the trailer alone. I've been spoiled more by screenshots of trailers posted by fans for trailers I haven't even seen.
Woah didn't think I'd see The Ink Tank in the comments of a Scott Cramer video. Love your stuff! Well said though. With superhero movies especially, there's so much public talk about the trailer that it's hard to put it out of your mind enough to go into the movie with a relatively fresh experience.
I think the thing is that people nowadays rewatch trailers over and over-- because we can! They're on TH-cam and they play as ads before videos, and everyone analyzes and talks about them... If you watch a trailer just _once,_ you're gonna forget most of it. And that's what I've had to start doing regarding movies and games I'm interested in seeing/playing blind. If I watch the trailer over and over, I'm not gonna forget that. And I think that's part of what people are doing. They're watching it over and over and realizing that they know almost the full plot of the movie. That's not to say that certain trailers aren't spoiling too much, because they absolutely are. Some stuff is unforgettable and it's annoying that it can be a gamble to watch a trailer even _once_
Yeah I was going to this up. Superhero movie trailers are analyzed to death, like scene by scene. The No Way Home trailer is a good example. Just a simple viewing made me excited, but I didn’t think about any of the other Spideys coming into it. It was all the over analyzing and sleuths needing to figure it out and ruining it for themselves. Just like what is currently happening with Deadpool and Wolverine.
@@MSTiekims9952 The fans didn't ruin themselves the No Way Home crossovers we were all expecting it, it was kind of a teasing game between marvel and the fans and the slip up in the trailer felt so good, litteraly no fan wasn't happy about it, and when we saw them actually appear in the movie without actually seeing them anywhere else before fans were even more excited, Marvel movies shouldn't be part of this discussion in my opinion because the fandom it caters to is always trying to figure the most out of the trailers and marvels knows that so they play with it and it ends up being it own kind of challenge.
@@GoncaloDCa Yeah, but the GP who just want to be surprised or spoil free get screwed. There were/ are articles and videos all over the place - half the time just a title of a video can ruin something if it’s in your TH-cam feed. And there are fans that do over-analyze and still get mad about something being in a trailer.
I was able to see Fall Guy early through my university, and I can say that the trailer doesn’t take away from the movie experience. First, the trailer doesn’t reveal everything. Second, it’s the type of movie that is enjoyable because of the vibes and character dynamics, so it would still be fine if you knew the plot.
I feel like knowing a lot of the movie doesn't necessarily ruin the experience so long as the story is still engaging and interesting. We go into Romeo and Juliet knowing from the first couple lines they're going to die but then you watch it play out and see what happens. Like you said, we rewatch movies all the time because we liked it and were invested. Just because you know what's going to happen, that doesn't change the fact it's still entertaining to get there. Side note. I remember the controversy when Red Eye had two very different trailers made just to manipulate their audience. On Spike TV (the quote unquote man's channel) it was edited to look like a hard core action movie. On Lifetime (a channel mostly associated with women) it was edited to look like a light hearted romcom. The movie is neither of those things.
I haven’t finished the video yet but I think a lot of movies try so hard to get viewers that they don’t leave you any room to learn the story as you go. It’s like how booktok has so many tags of like “enemies to lovers” , “found family” and so on, and that spoils the content of the book before you start it. There’s just so much media nowadays, that they don’t know how to hit their demographic without giving away the whole plot. I don’t have a solution, just a rant 🙃
Japan already solved this problem with its long titles you see on manga and anime (e.g that time I got reanimated as a slime) tells you enough to be interested but also doesn’t spoil it
Matthew Weiner the showrunner for Mad Men hated "next time on" trailers but the network forced him to do them. So over the course of the series the next time on clips would get shorter and shorter and also like more disjointed and cryptic until it was almost a parody of itself lol. Like in the last season it just be a random 5 sec montage of reaction shots with no dialogue 😂
Oh god, I hate romance, imagine if I loved action and thriller, and I saw the movie because of the trailer, and then got A ROMANTIC COMEDY?? I think I’d barf tbh
@@Womedy There's no misleading marketing. It's a 100% action movie packed with almost unnecessary amount of explosions and crazy car stunts, with a romcom storyline mixed with a murder mystery (the missing actor is not the dead body shown in the trailer btw) storyline. Plenty of meta humor and there's also a twist villain in the story. The trailer is fine, it's accurate and it didn't reveal too much, though I do think the trailer should've shown less of the pretty much coolest action/stunt scenes in the movie.
The funny thing is, this was a problem that arguably has gotten better with time. Nowadays, people are angry and critical to trailers that do this forcing editors to be more creative. Back in the 1970s, these people would have a heart attack. My favorite example of this is The Deer Hunter, which is a great movie with a terrible trailer. It spoils everything from the heartbreaking ending to the amount of time spent in Vietnam yet audiences still adore it.
Thank you for shouting out the people with anxiety. Thats not me and i dont like spoliers in trailers but i do have ptsd and have to look up spoilers so i can be aware of/avoid triggers
I am so glad you mentioned the Super 8 teaser, probably my favorite movie trailer I have ever seen. The fact that none of the footage in it is in the actual movie is such cool choice
One of my favorite trailers of all time is the Barbarian trailer when the girl just shows up on the porch and the guy asks if she wants to come in. So creepy and unsettling while revealing basically nothing about the movie
yes!! it was such a great example of setting people up to be blown away when shit hits the fan! i was expecting a run of the mill home invasion horror movie going in and i was OVERJOYED to be wrong
Going into a movie blind is truly the way to experience any movie. I saw Abigail recently and had no clue she was a vampire. Had I seen the trailer I would have sent 30 minutes waiting for the reveal I knew was coming
omfg it always annoyed me how it showed her as a vampire in the trailer and then had the main cast have a "who dunnit" plot for the first part of the movie
I actually LOVED the way Marvel did this for Endgame. All trailers suggested the movie going in a COMPLETELY different direction. When you then went to watch it you had no idea what was coming. Super well done. Edit: bruh nice mentioned. Yeah I rarely see people giving credit for that but as a former hardcore fan that was everything
I love the way Marvel does trailers, they edit in or out the spoilery bits or straight up shows something different, gets fans talking and theorizing but not actually spoiling the best parts
Yeah but then some people get pissed about that too, like the new Scott Pilgrim where they threw a curveball and changed trajectory at the end of the first episode and so many people were pissed that they were “lied to” by the marketing. Like make up your minds do you want to know what’s going to happen or not.
As someone who tries to avoid spoilers like the plague, I have found that the teaser trailer and FIRST trailer of a movie are the perfect amount to inform me what the movie is actually about and getting me excited by keeping it a mystery Going onto the second and especially third+ trailers is when they start revealing more- just recently my friend felt the newest Kingdom of the planet of the apes trailer spoiled it for him but the last two were fine
I love that you mentioned about people who need to know for anxiety reasons. I agree of course that obviously that isn't the majority and account for why most people want "spoiler heavy" trailers.
I stumbled across the movie "Selena" on tv one time, i had absolutely no idea it was a true story or anything about this persons life. I was legitimately shook, almost ill, at the end, because i was so shocked.
You know what’s crazier is I actually did grow up listening to her and the first time I watched that movie I didn’t put 2 and 2 together and thought they just made a random movie using all her songs 💀
At the end of every episode of Hell's Kitchen they have a mini trailer that shows what's going to happen in the next episode. The thing is, these are almost always completely fake, to the point where they insert audio clips from other episodes to show fake events that never even take place. One of my favorite examples of this is in season 11 where they make it seem like two contestants are in a secret relationship and when Gordon finds out he's reallllyy angry, but in reality none of that happens. It's like if clickbait thumbnails were trailers, it's great.
When I saw the Fall Guy trailer in the movie theater, I was so excited to actually see the full movie. It's definitely an action movie, I love that it's a movie within a movie, and it's a rom-com as well with two great actors. I'm psyched to see it this weekend!
A really good marketing decision done by the upcoming horror movie Long Legs is make really esoteric, eerie teaser trailers that make no sense without context and are just really chilling when you watch them by themselves. I’m excited to see how the movie actually is just from the teasers alone.
i dont, lol, just dont wanna watch the movie if i do. video games do this too.. makes the story developpment underwhelming, some improved though after criticism, some were already amazing at not spoiling. a trailer should be something that gets you hyped and give you content but doesn't tell anything or something i like is when they give you a false path so when you watch the story it's actually different (the plot but not the events) than what you would have thought with all the leads they gave.
@@KwehShiroI guess so, but for me unless the trailer spoils a big twist or it’s really egregious in spoiling the plot, it’s never gonna ruin the movie for me. I think the sweet spot for is something that let me know if the premise I can get invested while also not revealing any big plot points. Even then, though if the movie looks good enough, it’s not gonna stop me.
I remember when I saw The Truman Show for the first time without any idea of what it was about... I thought for a good part of the beginning that it was a documentary about a tv show host and I was SO confused when the plot started 😭😆 but I feel like I enjoyed it even more because of that! I like to know as little as possible about a movie now before I see it, and if I don't like it, then oh well
12:49 Apparently Warner Bros liked the trailers so much they asked the trailer house company to just edit the film itself which is why the film is the way it is
I think I'm a weird person in that getting spoilers doesn't ruin a story for me. The joy is not in unraveling an unknown story but immersing yourself in it. I rewatch stuff all the time where I know the ending and still get excited. I figure I'm a minority in this respect though
You're not alone lol. As Scott mentioned, people with anxiety like me actually enjoy the movie more if they don't have to worry about an unexpected big twist such as the death of a main character. Which is why I also enjoy rewatching the same movies and TV shows, even if I know the end. (That goes for books as well). It's a little bit like going on vacation in your favourite location, you have a good time even if you already know the place. 😊
This thread is like reading comments from aliens 😭 Knowing what's going to happen in a movie basically makes it pointless to watch for me, unless it's a re-watch. I don't watch trailers and I mute all sorts of stuff on social media if I'm avoiding a particular thing before I've seen it myself.
(Spoilers for The Batman!) When I went to the theater to see something (forgot what exactly it was), they showed the third trailer for The Batman, which I had not seen intentionally - for fear of seeing something I'd rather see fresh when the movie came out - and when it got to the end of it, I thought they had spoiled that Riddler knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman. I was a tad peeved. When I actually saw the movie, it turned out that Riddler was simply talking about Bruce Wayne to Batman, not knowing they're the same. Not the worst example of a trailer showing too much (hell, it didn’t even technically spoil anything), but that's just what I can remember recently. Sorry if that was a waste of reading 😅
An inverse to this that I’ve noticed is what I’m gonna call the “Filibuster trailer” (in honour of your Parks & Rec reference) It’s when the trailer just seems to jump between completely random shots and characters saying lines that seem to give a vague idea of what the film is about, whilst almost specifically avoiding showing anything crucial or revealing. They just stitch as much as they can to form the length of a trailer. I respect what they’re going for, but it kinda just makes me feel like I wasted two and a half minutes of my life with nothing new gained by the end of it.
What do I want in a trailer? 2:30 seconds of random dialogue, but in a scrolling Star Wars style text, with a that AMC intro that lady did in the background (also it’s just a littttle too quiet to make out what she’s saying) 😊👍
GREAT timing for this video I was just so pissed about the trailer for “Damsel” on Netflix. They give away the whole edge to most of the movie! You’re not at all wondering what happened.
I saw the trailer for M. Night Shamalayan's new movie 'Trap' and a lot of people complaining that it spoils the story...while the director is famous for not wanting anything about his films spoiled..not even the 6th Sense after all these years. Not to mention he is known for hist 'twists' in his films. So I'm actually more excited to see Trap, because there's just no way the trailer actually tells us what's going on
I also feel like people are not realizing that the story is from the killers perspective. From my POV it seemed like they showed mainly a lot of what will be in the first act.
my boyfriend and i are complete opposites he keeps up on new stuff coming out, if it’s a franchise he likes, he watches all the promos, reads the theories… by the time the movie is out he literally knows what’s going to happen. i hear about a movie on accident, look at the poster and title, someone says “you should watch this, it’s good” and MAYBE read part of the description, then decide to go. when i go into a movie i want to go in completely blind or as blind as possible. this is why i NEVER seek out movie trailers. and i hate spoilers. sometimes i have to prevent my boyfriend from speaking as soon as he gets started on a movie topic and yell “NO SPOILERS” because he’s been reading the articles for months. he doesn’t even think of it as a spoiler anymore. meanwhile, i barely know what the plot is. i like doing it this way because it makes me feel like a kid again. movies surprise me because i dont try to figure them out. i just let them play and react accordingly. yes i am the girl who cries at the obvious cliches. but as soon as i show him a movie i like that i’ve already seen before which he has no knowledge of, he can predict the twist within 2 minutes. this man drives me insane.
I have a mind for jokes and a scrambled egg brain for everything else. So I am mad at a trailer for spoiling all the jokes/the best jokes because I will remember that.
My favorite trailers right now are for Skinamarink and Kane and Lynch 2 dog days. They show basically nothing but the general vibe and it’s executed so well
12:45 There's actually a really interesting backstory behind the "Suicide Squad" trailers. The first one is pretty dark and bland, but was more accurate to the actual film. The second one was done by a trailer house, which added all the colors and Queen music. The studio then scrambled to try to retroactively edit the movie to be more like the upbeat trailer. And thus, the mess that was "Suicide Squad".
I can't remember which movie it was, but I remember assuming a movie I was about to watch had the whole movie in the trailer. The first 5 minutes was basically the trailer, and by 10 minutes in every scene in the trailer was shown. The rest of the movie was great and the trailer gave away absolutely nothing.
My feelings about misleading or spoilery trailers is pretty much what you said. It depends on what was spoiled or what way it was misleading. Now the one spoiler website I will absolutely check if I think it's at all necessary is "Does the Dog Die?" Because THAT is not a surprise I want in my entertainment.
I've been avoiding movie trailers for the past 10 years because I got tired of predicting the movie before seeing it. I only need posters and screenshots to know if i'll go see it and even that starts to push it because things get predictable quick
When people say "back then", they're probably thinking about TV commercial trailers, which were either TEASERS or a very condensed trailer, edited down to save money on adspace.
There was a movie from last year called Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken that the trailer was LITERALLY everything that happens in the movie down to the final climax. I think that's one of the reasons it was Dreamwork's worst movie release in the modern era, since audiences could see what the whole film was about, and it just wasn't good at all lmao
That seems like a win for us as consumers. We saved money by not wasting time and cash on a shit movie. Lol I personally would prefer a spoiler to a very good movie vs a crap movie with no spoilers that I now wasted upwards of $30 per person on.
The take on not remembering the trailer at all was spot on. I watch dimension 20 weekly, and at the end of each episode is spoilers for the next episode. I never remember any of the spoilers until they play out in the next episode. Also I too thought kangaroo jack was about a talking kangaroo and until rewatching as an adult, I remember him talking more than just the one scene.
My favorite movie trailer is the first trailer for Nope because it kind of misled me before I watched the movie. The movie was more complex than it seemed at first. It also was super mysterious so I wanted to see what it was about. Maybe others feel the same I won't explain it in detail though.
12:45 I agree! The very first trailer looked really good tbh. But then BvS came out and people were criticizing the DCEU and its dark tone (even more than they already had been after Man of Steel) so WB pretty much amped up the “fun” factor in Suicide Squad hardcore. I mean just look up the transformation of the movie’s logo throughout the trailers. Also another movie whose trailer was very different than the actual movie was the Avenger’s Age of Ultron first official trailer. I still to this day still watch that trailer sometimes because it’s so good. And I, too, hated Kangaroo Jack when I saw it in theaters as a kid because I also thought it was going to be about a talking kangaroo because of the trailer 😭 Also one more thing, I absolutely LOVE when a good trailer plays a song and makes me fall in love with the song. Like there’s been so many times where I’ve already even known the song but once it’s played on a trailer that I really like, it makes me love it even more. I’ve liked Madonna’s Like a Prayer a decent amount but the Deadpool & Wolverine trailer has definitely boosted it for me -Zach
@@Regene2383 It's in a video on my channel called "How Movie Trailers Manipulate You" - I wanted to prove that a trailer can make anything look exciting lol
@@Regene2383 it's at the end of my "How Movie Trailers Manipulate You" video - I wanted to prove that a trailer can make just about anything look exciting lol
I was so intrigued by your comment that I went straight to your channel to watch it. Not only is this trailer hilarious, it's also very, VERY well done! How on earth do you only have a thousand subscribers? You just got a new one, I'm definitely gonna check your other videos. 👍🏻
So I'm only at 1:26 making this comment and I did see the movie right when it came out. Mild spoiler, the dead guy is not the actor he is a double for.
Honestly the title of the movie is more of a spoiler because it's a pretty obvious play on words where he's a "fall guy" because he's a stunt man, but also gets framed to take the fall for a crime. Only one of those is a typical use of the phrase "the fall guy" and it is not the first one
Back in 2019, only like 2 weeks after Endgame came out, I was watching the NBA finals and they played a TV promo with "#1 Movie in the World" yadda yadda, but they literally showed the scene of Pepper and Tony fighting back to back from the final battle. Two. Weeks. After the movie came out.
I've been ignoring the trailers so idk how bad they are with showing stuff, but Deadpool and Wolverine has so much promo I can't escape it. It seems like there's new images, actor comments, and trailers for that movie all the time.
Here’s the thing about studios lying in trailers, the first wave of viewers will pay and feel lied to, but it’s too late because they’ve already payed, but the second wave will be non existent because everyone leaves bad reviews and nobody else goes to see the movie. Let’s also point out that if they know what will put butts in seats, so they lie that their movie is about that topic, why don’t they just make a movie about that topic?
I think there was an instance that happened recently where someone successfully sued a movie studio for showing a trailer that wasn't completely accurate to what the movie turned out to be.
This is a problem, at least sometimes. I haven't seen a Marvel movie in a couple years now, but when I was invested I had to stop watching their trailers because while in the theater to see Thor: Ragnarok, I realized that every major reveal in that movie was spoiled in the trailer. I saw pretty much everything coming because I had seen, I think, two trailers for the film. It was ridiculous.
There’s a movie coming out called Trap. It’s about a dad who takes his young daughter to a concert, and unknown to the concert attendants, the concert is where a serial killer plans to take his next victims. The trailer seemed SUPER interesting and genuinely something I wanted to watch, but in the last few seconds of the trailer they spoiled who the bad guy was (even though it was supposedly a “mystery”). I’m still gonna watch it but I am not nearly as excited.
if you’re talking about the reveal of the killer, that happens really early in the trailer, because that’s what the movie is about… it’s from his perspective
that's not even what the trailer says the movie is about. it's a police trap for the serial killer, not a trap for the serial killer's next victim. If you're going to complain about learning what the premise of a movie is, at least get what you're complaining about right.
@@jijitters i personally think it’s much more intriguing knowing we are following the killer. then it would just look like an average father save daughter from evil villain movie and i think that would garner much less interest. now this poses more intriguing questions like how he will escape this trap set for him AND how his daughter will play into the narrative. but if that’s your opinion that’s fine, the op just made it seem like it was a huge reveal at the end when it was a key plot point given early in the trailer.
Honestly I find the whole concept of spoilers to be silly. I mean if someone feels like they've been robbed of on experience who am I to say they're wrong. I just think that there's so much in between these "spoiled" moments that people forget it's about the journey, not the destination. Also it is so wild to me how much value some people put on unspoiled media. I just don't get that same feeling I guess. Reading the synopsis of a novel is not the same experience as actually reading it to me, I view trailers the same way. There's a whole lot more I can say about this fairly recent phenomenon of spoilerphobia but I digress. Great points as always, loved the video.
i wish books, series and movies had a wonderful tagging system like Ao3 tbh! i really dont like certain type of stories and themes, but a little book summary on the backcover is not gonna tell you what actually happens. a book or movie might be a romance story, but is it dark romance? is it a light, fluffy type of thing? does a main character die for a tragic plot twist???? i wish everything had a tagging system thatd be so convenient omg
I heard the trailer for My Girl hid a little too much! Poor parents, taking their happy kids to see a heartwarming coming-of-age movie... and bam, Macauley bites it.
10:37 it’s me I’ve been mentioned. I am someone who doesn’t care/kinda likes spoilers. I’ve always been that way I honestly find that 90% of the time I tend to like movies/books/tv shows more when I know the outcome going in then when I don’t, and I have to sit there stewing in anxiety. Like I literally can’t watch LOST because no one talks about the ending in great detail they all say “you just gotta watch it” well I don’t just gotta watch it I want to know it. I need to know that everything will be okay or mentally prepare myself for it not being okay. But again as Scott said this is extreme anxiety I don’t even like to be surprised for my birthday and Christmas I prefer to know what I’m getting as otherwise I get over anxious about it.
Scott, there's an early 90s movie that this is a remake of. Its called Fall Guy. A Stunt man finds someone dead and uses his wits and film technology to stay alive and exonerate himself while the actual criminal tries to both frame and kill our Double Entendre "fall guy" I don't think I need to see the movie. I saw the first one, and it what's entertaining but nothing to write home about
Infinity war was spoiled for me, not from the trailers but from Adult Swim. About 10 days after the movie was released Adult Swim posted a black screen, during one of their breaks, with large white text spoiling the names of those who died in the movie. I was so pissed. It only happened once, but it was enough 😢
@@scifigrl23 I couldnt care less if fans accurately predict something. The problem is when someone goes out of their to spoil something they know lots of people are hyped about. And your attitude of well you should've been one of those fans that analyzed everything and figured it out sooner.
focus groups are cancer, i heard a lot of great endings were changed/reshot due to them. and I still wonder if any of them actually go to the movies at all
I love how Scott told us to watch the castaways trailer that didn’t spoil anything but also spoiled that Tom Hanks got off the island with the first trailer
this is definitely on account of my being a broke and extremely anxious little baby that fears disappointment more than anything, but i've always been completely fine with spoilers. in some cases they actually enhance my experience, because i don't spend the entire moving worrying about whether or not i'll have wasted my money to see a movie with an ending that i find disappointing. so i'm glad that you brought up people like me 😅
personally, a bio / written teaser is more important to me than a trailer. some of the best movies i’ve seen are films that i didn’t watch a trailer for - banshees, eeaao, dune, anatomy of a fall, interstellar, holding the man, etc
I was talking with some friends last week about this, and the trailer for A Dog's Purpose actually LITERALLY gives away the entire plot. I unironically felt more emotion while watching the trailer than through the entire movie.
People complain about everything. If you're worried trailers give too much of a movie away....then don't watch them. No one is forced to watch a movie trailers
what I hate is when all the best jokes of a movie is spoiled in a trailer. which leaves it slightly disappointing when you watch it and all the best gags you've seen before and dont hit as hard as they should have. all i can think is "oh i've already seen this"
I go to the movies most weeks and I always struggle when I get to the desk even if I just told myself the name XD. It's like there is a force field preventing people from getting it right ok.
@@vannareyne6336 there might be something there because i’ve heard people talking about which one they’re seeing but as soon as they come up to me i just get blank stares
I think Robert Zemekis once said something to the effect that people are more likely to see a movie if they know what's going to happen. People are weird
my guess is that people don't want to spend their money and time to go to a movie that turns out to be bad or unenjoyable. Kind of like when you feel like treating yourself to a meal at a restaurant because you had a hard week so you go to the place you have gone 100 times before and order the exact same thing to ensure you enjoy it.
@@starkis14159 I think equating knowing what's going to happen to knowing the quality is a mistake you've made here. Twists, reveals, unique developments - those are what make a movie good and well-written for people who aren't idiots.
It definitely stems from movie trailers giving away what would be big twists in the film or answers certain mysteries that are supposed to keep you guessing throughout the movie. So spoilers for Terminator Salvation and Genesis: Salvation's trailer revealed that the main guy character is a Terminator with amnesia, and then Genesis' trailer revealed that John Connor is a Terminator.
As someone with severe generalized anxiety disorder who hates surprises, I may not speak for all of us but I love when a trailer/synopsis leaves me wanting more. I want a movie to wow me and blow my expectations out of the water, which is why I simply don't watch trailers anymore, I read the synopsis online and if it sounds cool, I'll go for it. I'd never go into a social situation without knowing every detail about the setting and people, but movies and theater give me the opportunity to go in blind in a way I would never normally do and it's oddly freeing.
a trailer that lied to me as a child was Bridge to Terabithia. I was a massive Narnia nerd and was sold on a Narnia-esque magical adventure. I've never recovered.
The approach I prefer for this is releasing teasers up until release weekend. Then all of the extended ‘spoilery’ trailers are released after that. Superfans like the spoil free teasers and will go in the first weekend. Then more people can be convinced by longer trailers after.
i was super excited for spider-man homecoming and i rewatched that trailer ad nauseam, because at that point i sort of trusted that the trailer makers wouldn't have told me too much about the movie, and as someone in this comment section mentioned, we in the superhero fandom tend to over-analyse trailers when they come out. then i went to watch the movie with a group of friends, one of whom didn't know anything about spider-man and obviously hadn't watched the trailer. she sat next to me. and let me tell you, so so many times i would hear her react to something and i'd frown and be like well that was in the trailer. it wasn't necessarily the big reveals but things like [sm:hoco spoilers] tony actually being in the suit on the roof scene, and spider-man holding the ship together with his webs, and things like that. [end spoilers, although idk how u haven't seen that movie yet lol]. i still had a good time in the theatre but i definitely was not as emotionally invested as my friend was, because i'd been pulled out so many times. so yeah from that experience, i adopted this new habit: if it's a movie that i know i want to watch, i do not watch the trailer at all, because then i go in completely blind and that's my favourite way to experience a movie. if it's a movie that i don't know if i want to watch, i watch the first 30ish seconds of the trailer, because i get an idea of tone and characters and genre. and only if it's a movie i don't want to watch or don't think i'll ever watch, then i watch the entire trailer, because "it'll give away the whole movie anyway." all of my friends and family know this too, to the point that when i'm in a movie theatre with them, they know i'm gonna be blocking my ears and closing my eyes during at least some of the opening trailers.
Personally I think the worst is when horror movies show off the 'best' jumpscares in the trailer
I enjoyed Smile, but it would have been even better if they didn't include the car scare.
"best jumpscares" implies that a jumpscare is what makes a horror movie good.
If a horror movie trailer is filled with jumpscares, I am glad as I know not to waste my time on it. There won't be any real horror, and it will just be "booh! haha gotcha" trash.
@@Baltuxokay
@@Baltuxerm actually, “best jumpscare” implies theres more than one jumpscare
@@BaltuxThis just in, people can like jumpscares. 😱😱😱 Not everyone jerks off their ego to psychological horror. Sometimes it's just fun to watch jumpscare horror. 😱😱
Never been my problem. I hear that a movie is coming out and I'm like "cool", then I never watch the trailer and forget that the movie is coming out and watch it two years later.
lmfao real
This is the way.
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My problem is that I go to movies, they show trailers before the movie, and often these days the closer you get to a movie's release date the more information gets spoiled in the pre-movie trailers. Plus, they show the same trailers over and over again so it's not easy to forget what happens in them.
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Kangaroo Jack is literally my reference point for a misleading trailers. When I see a film that is NOTHING what the trailer showed us, I’ve said on multiple occasions, “I’ve been Kangaroo Jack’d”
They Kangaroo Jacked us up.
no. Scott. that's not okay.@@ScottCramer
The trailer portrayed exactly what the movie was 😂. Unfortunately those scenes were the only ones wroth watching
Bridge. To. Terribithia. I read the book ages before it came out. The trailer sold it as a YA fantasy but it was not!
I never saw Kangaroo Jack, and up until just now, I didn't know that the Kangaroo didn't really talk. That's pretty messed up. The movie isn't about a silly talking Kangaroo? But... That's what the trailer showed it to be. That's pretty bad.
The problem with trailers feeling like they give away too much, is that they answer all the questions that are asked, without asking new ones. If the trailer does not leave any unanswered question it feels like there aren't any, regardless of the truth.
Exactly. This is why I see people who want the whole plot in the trailer as less intelligent, inferior minded people. An experience where your brain literally never has to think at all is what they want.
Seeing people as inferior or lacking intelligence, because of their trailer preferences, is hilarious. I’m not one of the people you’ve described but it wouldn’t make me less intelligent if I enjoyed spoilers lol. There’re intelligent people on both sides of the ballot
"Do you have a time machine? Why aren't you using it for something more important??" Scott with the real questions lmao
Great comment! Good job
As someone who just LITERALLY WATCHED The Fall Guy today, I can guarantee you, they don't spoil SHIT in the trailer. Most of what was "spoiled" is introduced in the first act of the movie.
Ooo Vincent Price!
@@choosehappy9224 "Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well."
There are even a couple cute editing decisions in the trailer to avoid spoilers, e.g. changing who the "i never forget a fist" line is pointed at.
honestly the trailer is SO good having seen the movie. what seem like spoilers are infact, 100% hoodwinks. they dupe you into thinking you know, when you dont.
Yeah, I guess I never watched the three minute trailer, but the trailers that played before movies I didn't think had too many spoilers just some funny action scenes. I thought they were good trailers. I guess there was internet drama about this trailer, but it's definitely not one I'd pick.
I remember the trailer for Pixar’s Brave made it seem like it focused on her “fighting for her own hand” but we got the the theatre and it was basically brother bear 😅
To be fair that's a problem with the movie switching gears during production
Same with princess and the frog. She's basically a frog the entire movie?! I wanna watch a princess!!
@@eyebrowsj2243They switched directors but they were always going to make the mom turn into a bear.
I mean, that's still what it's about. You can have multiple messages and plots in your movie lol
I actually was excited for the film when it came out and I was so disappointed with the film for the same reason
I work at an indie arthouse theater, and occasionally we do a "preview night" for our members to hype up some upcoming films, and have them vote on what they're most excited about. Without fail, the trailer that gives the most away about the plot does best, and if I only have a quick teaser trailer that gives a "vibe" and no info to show, it gets downvoted the most. People want to know exactly what they're about to see. As a friend told me one time about his mom "she loves movies but hates surprises."
It makes sense but god that hurts to hear. I understand people want to know what they’re walking into but it makes me sad fewer people are willing to take a chance on something.
That’s so stupid, the issue is they’re watching the trailer and wanting to be entertained, instead of letting the movie do that
@@Industry-insider Counterpoint, if a big factor of your enjoyment of a movie is just being surprised by new events are you really engaging with it? And if someone is enjoying the movie they chose after hearing the gist of the plot aren't they likely engaging with it more?
@@UltravioletNomad the suprise factor isn't the only reason not knowing the plot is important, this is a big thing that people choose to ignore
@@UltravioletNomad honestly I haven’t watched a movie in like 5 years so maybe this isn’t the biggest issue
I cannot STAND when horror movies give away the best jump scare in the trailer!?! It completely ruins the intensity of so many scenes
jumpscares are garbage, grow up and enjoy some real horror movies
*cough cough* that one in smile *cough cough*
@ur_cowboy Jeez man
That goes along with the general issue that the monster we never see will almost always be the most terrifying. The more the audience knows about the monster, the more we can meme it lol
I love when they show jump scares in trailers, it lets me know to avoid the movie. Jump scares are the lamest common denominator. Startle jumps to fake "scariness" is cheesy. Put some real work into the scares and creepiness. My dad did that all the time at home, just because he popped a bag by me when it was quiet and forced my startle reflex, doesn't mean he was "scary," any more than it means the movie is scary. Of course by this logic, it's also not good to show them in the trailer, though :D
The trailer for the Emperor's New Groove shows them swinging on a vine and getting tangled around a tree. Pacha says "Don't worry your highness, I gotcha. You're safe with me... Or not." In the movie, he NEVER SAYS "or not." This has pissed me off for the last 24 years!!!
Wait until you find out about the trailer for Flushed Away, where the rat has 2 butlers, completely ruining the idea that he lives alone and therefore should leave and go with Rita. They just edited them out of the final prodict.
That doesn't even change anything in the movie...?
That movie was a nightmare to work on, so I'm not surprised tons of scenes were edited differently. Watch "The sweatbox" documentary about it. Also other movies have trailers made from scratch to avoid spoiling anything, like Frozen. Or infamously, Madam Web has a cringe voiceover to exposition the whole backstory, that's not in the actual film.
The only part I remember from that trailer is the two of them having the deadpan convinced before going over the waterfall, climaxing with Kuzco yelling "boooooyaaaahhhahhh"
And that deffo does happen in the movie so 🤔 we seem to find ourselves at a draw
@@velmad3894that’s not the point !!
My favorite lying trailer was Guardians of the Galaxy 2. The trailer made it seem that the big electricity monster was some final or climactic fight and it was the opening credits. We had no idea about the rest of the movie and it was great.
I also agree that keeping the tone correct is important in keeping the rug pull effect away from audiences.
The rug pull effect is exactly why I would prefer a trailer reveal a bit more to me. I don't wanna go in expecting an action movie and get a shitty romcom. Lol
@-ThatGuy- exactly, I think the key is keep the biggest secrets and reveals a surprise but absolutely do not sell the movie as basically a different genre.. shouldn't be so difficult and yet.. 😅
See that sort of thing is why people who act like a movie trailer for a movie that hasn’t even released yet has “spoiled the entire movie” are incredibly silly. Like how tf do you know
Don't they show Drax killing the thing in one of the trailers? You thought they spoiled that? Plus they showed ego and mantis, I don't think anyone thought they weren't gonna be involved in the finale. Idk. Idk bc my nerd brain had already consumed breakdown videos of the trailer, announcement of the movie/plot at comic con, etc. So my experience isn't exactly "general"
I went into this thinking "yes they spoil way too much" but you have a good point that usually you'd forget most details a few days after seeing the trailer. Though with Superhero Movies I do feel it's slightly different because trailers are followed by waves of analysis videos and social media posts that can be trickier to avoid than just the trailer alone. I've been spoiled more by screenshots of trailers posted by fans for trailers I haven't even seen.
Woah didn't think I'd see The Ink Tank in the comments of a Scott Cramer video. Love your stuff!
Well said though. With superhero movies especially, there's so much public talk about the trailer that it's hard to put it out of your mind enough to go into the movie with a relatively fresh experience.
I think the thing is that people nowadays rewatch trailers over and over-- because we can!
They're on TH-cam and they play as ads before videos, and everyone analyzes and talks about them...
If you watch a trailer just _once,_ you're gonna forget most of it. And that's what I've had to start doing regarding movies and games I'm interested in seeing/playing blind. If I watch the trailer over and over, I'm not gonna forget that. And I think that's part of what people are doing. They're watching it over and over and realizing that they know almost the full plot of the movie.
That's not to say that certain trailers aren't spoiling too much, because they absolutely are. Some stuff is unforgettable and it's annoying that it can be a gamble to watch a trailer even _once_
Yeah I was going to this up. Superhero movie trailers are analyzed to death, like scene by scene. The No Way Home trailer is a good example. Just a simple viewing made me excited, but I didn’t think about any of the other Spideys coming into it. It was all the over analyzing and sleuths needing to figure it out and ruining it for themselves. Just like what is currently happening with Deadpool and Wolverine.
@@MSTiekims9952 The fans didn't ruin themselves the No Way Home crossovers we were all expecting it, it was kind of a teasing game between marvel and the fans and the slip up in the trailer felt so good, litteraly no fan wasn't happy about it, and when we saw them actually appear in the movie without actually seeing them anywhere else before fans were even more excited, Marvel movies shouldn't be part of this discussion in my opinion because the fandom it caters to is always trying to figure the most out of the trailers and marvels knows that so they play with it and it ends up being it own kind of challenge.
@@GoncaloDCa Yeah, but the GP who just want to be surprised or spoil free get screwed. There were/ are articles and videos all over the place - half the time just a title of a video can ruin something if it’s in your TH-cam feed. And there are fans that do over-analyze and still get mad about something being in a trailer.
I was able to see Fall Guy early through my university, and I can say that the trailer doesn’t take away from the movie experience. First, the trailer doesn’t reveal everything. Second, it’s the type of movie that is enjoyable because of the vibes and character dynamics, so it would still be fine if you knew the plot.
A little too much talking at first but god damn does the action go hard
Movies great I had a blast
I feel like knowing a lot of the movie doesn't necessarily ruin the experience so long as the story is still engaging and interesting. We go into Romeo and Juliet knowing from the first couple lines they're going to die but then you watch it play out and see what happens. Like you said, we rewatch movies all the time because we liked it and were invested. Just because you know what's going to happen, that doesn't change the fact it's still entertaining to get there.
Side note. I remember the controversy when Red Eye had two very different trailers made just to manipulate their audience. On Spike TV (the quote unquote man's channel) it was edited to look like a hard core action movie. On Lifetime (a channel mostly associated with women) it was edited to look like a light hearted romcom. The movie is neither of those things.
I haven’t finished the video yet but I think a lot of movies try so hard to get viewers that they don’t leave you any room to learn the story as you go. It’s like how booktok has so many tags of like “enemies to lovers” , “found family” and so on, and that spoils the content of the book before you start it. There’s just so much media nowadays, that they don’t know how to hit their demographic without giving away the whole plot. I don’t have a solution, just a rant 🙃
Japan already solved this problem with its long titles you see on manga and anime (e.g that time I got reanimated as a slime) tells you enough to be interested but also doesn’t spoil it
@@redwiltshire1816 *reincarnated. that time i got reanimated as a slime sure would have been interesting.
@@stupiditiusmaximus sorry auto correct lol can’t win with it
@@redwiltshire1816 trueeeee. It always messes everything up.
Matthew Weiner the showrunner for Mad Men hated "next time on" trailers but the network forced him to do them. So over the course of the series the next time on clips would get shorter and shorter and also like more disjointed and cryptic until it was almost a parody of itself lol. Like in the last season it just be a random 5 sec montage of reaction shots with no dialogue 😂
My memory is just so bad I don't even remember what happened during the trailers, so I get to watch movies going in blind.
Actually fall guy is mostly a romcom for like an hour, so it’s pretty different from the trailer
If that’s the case then that’s just misleading marketing tactics which makes it even worse
I figured.
Oh god, I hate romance, imagine if I loved action and thriller, and I saw the movie because of the trailer, and then got A ROMANTIC COMEDY?? I think I’d barf tbh
@@Womedy There's no misleading marketing. It's a 100% action movie packed with almost unnecessary amount of explosions and crazy car stunts, with a romcom storyline mixed with a murder mystery (the missing actor is not the dead body shown in the trailer btw) storyline. Plenty of meta humor and there's also a twist villain in the story.
The trailer is fine, it's accurate and it didn't reveal too much, though I do think the trailer should've shown less of the pretty much coolest action/stunt scenes in the movie.
@@pemanilnoob I've seen the movie, it is 100% an action thriller... So the action movie protagonists can't have love interests in movies anymore?
The funny thing is, this was a problem that arguably has gotten better with time. Nowadays, people are angry and critical to trailers that do this forcing editors to be more creative. Back in the 1970s, these people would have a heart attack. My favorite example of this is The Deer Hunter, which is a great movie with a terrible trailer. It spoils everything from the heartbreaking ending to the amount of time spent in Vietnam yet audiences still adore it.
The trailer for 'Alien' is from the 1970s, and it is the greatest trailer of all time.
@@Itcouldbebunnies That's true, there were great trailers then just like now. I'm just saying that the problem was much worse then compared to today.
now i want a shirt that says "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it lookin' ass"
Thank you for shouting out the people with anxiety. Thats not me and i dont like spoliers in trailers but i do have ptsd and have to look up spoilers so i can be aware of/avoid triggers
(For anyone who would also like spoilers for a similar reason- doesthedogdie is a great website for this)
"Lookin ass" is my favorite little flavor phrase to throw out. Thank you for the immaculate vibes on that one.
I am so glad you mentioned the Super 8 teaser, probably my favorite movie trailer I have ever seen. The fact that none of the footage in it is in the actual movie is such cool choice
One of my favorite trailers of all time is the Barbarian trailer when the girl just shows up on the porch and the guy asks if she wants to come in. So creepy and unsettling while revealing basically nothing about the movie
yes!! it was such a great example of setting people up to be blown away when shit hits the fan! i was expecting a run of the mill home invasion horror movie going in and i was OVERJOYED to be wrong
AGREED
Going into a movie blind is truly the way to experience any movie. I saw Abigail recently and had no clue she was a vampire. Had I seen the trailer I would have sent 30 minutes waiting for the reveal I knew was coming
F*** I haven't seen Abigail now the first 30 minutes are ruined.
Thanks a lot for the tip 😒
omfg it always annoyed me how it showed her as a vampire in the trailer and then had the main cast have a "who dunnit" plot for the first part of the movie
I actually LOVED the way Marvel did this for Endgame. All trailers suggested the movie going in a COMPLETELY different direction. When you then went to watch it you had no idea what was coming. Super well done.
Edit: bruh nice mentioned. Yeah I rarely see people giving credit for that but as a former hardcore fan that was everything
I love the way Marvel does trailers, they edit in or out the spoilery bits or straight up shows something different, gets fans talking and theorizing but not actually spoiling the best parts
I remember lots of people theorizing time travel from the trailer, though.
Yeah but then some people get pissed about that too, like the new Scott Pilgrim where they threw a curveball and changed trajectory at the end of the first episode and so many people were pissed that they were “lied to” by the marketing. Like make up your minds do you want to know what’s going to happen or not.
@@gabrielaharries8149funny because they used to spoil a lot back in the day, Iron man 1 trailer spoils like 80% of the movie.
As someone who tries to avoid spoilers like the plague, I have found that the teaser trailer and FIRST trailer of a movie are the perfect amount to inform me what the movie is actually about and getting me excited by keeping it a mystery
Going onto the second and especially third+ trailers is when they start revealing more- just recently my friend felt the newest Kingdom of the planet of the apes trailer spoiled it for him but the last two were fine
I normally don’t watch trailers for this reason. But also I think it can make people get more excited to watch it
I like the way you think, but it sucks when you have to sit through the later trailers before you watch a different movie
@@mcbuckets2399that's my issue as someone who goes to the cinema 2 or 3 times a week, it's so hard to avoid trailers
@LiamLivesOn Yeah. Also considering that there are trailers before TH-cam videos.
@@chickenburrgers oh I have TH-cam premium so I'm lucky that way,
@@LiamLivesOn lucky... I'm too poor.
I love that you mentioned about people who need to know for anxiety reasons. I agree of course that obviously that isn't the majority and account for why most people want "spoiler heavy" trailers.
I stumbled across the movie "Selena" on tv one time, i had absolutely no idea it was a true story or anything about this persons life. I was legitimately shook, almost ill, at the end, because i was so shocked.
You know what’s crazier is I actually did grow up listening to her and the first time I watched that movie I didn’t put 2 and 2 together and thought they just made a random movie using all her songs 💀
At the end of every episode of Hell's Kitchen they have a mini trailer that shows what's going to happen in the next episode.
The thing is, these are almost always completely fake, to the point where they insert audio clips from other episodes to show fake events that never even take place.
One of my favorite examples of this is in season 11 where they make it seem like two contestants are in a secret relationship and when Gordon finds out he's reallllyy angry, but in reality none of that happens.
It's like if clickbait thumbnails were trailers, it's great.
When I saw the Fall Guy trailer in the movie theater, I was so excited to actually see the full movie. It's definitely an action movie, I love that it's a movie within a movie, and it's a rom-com as well with two great actors. I'm psyched to see it this weekend!
I saw it today and it was great!
A really good marketing decision done by the upcoming horror movie Long Legs is make really esoteric, eerie teaser trailers that make no sense without context and are just really chilling when you watch them by themselves. I’m excited to see how the movie actually is just from the teasers alone.
Honestly even if trailers spoil everything I usually forget the entire trailer by the time I end up seeing the movie 🤷♀️
He said that already…
I DONT
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i dont, lol, just dont wanna watch the movie if i do. video games do this too.. makes the story developpment underwhelming, some improved though after criticism, some were already amazing at not spoiling. a trailer should be something that gets you hyped and give you content but doesn't tell anything or something i like is when they give you a false path so when you watch the story it's actually different (the plot but not the events) than what you would have thought with all the leads they gave.
@@KwehShiroI guess so, but for me unless the trailer spoils a big twist or it’s really egregious in spoiling the plot, it’s never gonna ruin the movie for me. I think the sweet spot for is something that let me know if the premise I can get invested while also not revealing any big plot points. Even then, though if the movie looks good enough, it’s not gonna stop me.
I remember when I saw The Truman Show for the first time without any idea of what it was about... I thought for a good part of the beginning that it was a documentary about a tv show host and I was SO confused when the plot started 😭😆 but I feel like I enjoyed it even more because of that! I like to know as little as possible about a movie now before I see it, and if I don't like it, then oh well
12:49 Apparently Warner Bros liked the trailers so much they asked the trailer house company to just edit the film itself which is why the film is the way it is
"Let's go see The Fall Guy together!" Scott, you make me want to have friends
“Uploaded 35 seconds ago” I got home from work at the exact right time and not a moment too soon
Early morning post let's goo
Well, kinda 34 seconds late 😂
@@ClearlyJoking fair point 🤣
So is this basically you saying "First!" ?
I think I'm a weird person in that getting spoilers doesn't ruin a story for me. The joy is not in unraveling an unknown story but immersing yourself in it. I rewatch stuff all the time where I know the ending and still get excited. I figure I'm a minority in this respect though
You're not alone lol. As Scott mentioned, people with anxiety like me actually enjoy the movie more if they don't have to worry about an unexpected big twist such as the death of a main character.
Which is why I also enjoy rewatching the same movies and TV shows, even if I know the end. (That goes for books as well). It's a little bit like going on vacation in your favourite location, you have a good time even if you already know the place. 😊
If I'm REALLY into the show, I'm extremely impatient on what's gonna happen so I go out of my way LOOKING for spoilers- it just makes me feel better
@@sushilampa8287:o but ???? but ??????? 😭
This thread is like reading comments from aliens 😭 Knowing what's going to happen in a movie basically makes it pointless to watch for me, unless it's a re-watch. I don't watch trailers and I mute all sorts of stuff on social media if I'm avoiding a particular thing before I've seen it myself.
@jijitters I just hate surprises haha, I still have the rest of the movie/series to watch I just wanna know the big twist
(Spoilers for The Batman!)
When I went to the theater to see something (forgot what exactly it was), they showed the third trailer for The Batman, which I had not seen intentionally - for fear of seeing something I'd rather see fresh when the movie came out - and when it got to the end of it, I thought they had spoiled that Riddler knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman. I was a tad peeved. When I actually saw the movie, it turned out that Riddler was simply talking about Bruce Wayne to Batman, not knowing they're the same.
Not the worst example of a trailer showing too much (hell, it didn’t even technically spoil anything), but that's just what I can remember recently. Sorry if that was a waste of reading 😅
An inverse to this that I’ve noticed is what I’m gonna call the “Filibuster trailer” (in honour of your Parks & Rec reference)
It’s when the trailer just seems to jump between completely random shots and characters saying lines that seem to give a vague idea of what the film is about, whilst almost specifically avoiding showing anything crucial or revealing. They just stitch as much as they can to form the length of a trailer. I respect what they’re going for, but it kinda just makes me feel like I wasted two and a half minutes of my life with nothing new gained by the end of it.
What do I want in a trailer? 2:30 seconds of random dialogue, but in a scrolling Star Wars style text, with a that AMC intro that lady did in the background (also it’s just a littttle too quiet to make out what she’s saying) 😊👍
19:42 Hardly, if the entire movie is building up to this huge reveal and I already know what it is it ruins everything
GREAT timing for this video I was just so pissed about the trailer for “Damsel” on Netflix. They give away the whole edge to most of the movie! You’re not at all wondering what happened.
I saw the trailer for M. Night Shamalayan's new movie 'Trap' and a lot of people complaining that it spoils the story...while the director is famous for not wanting anything about his films spoiled..not even the 6th Sense after all these years. Not to mention he is known for hist 'twists' in his films. So I'm actually more excited to see Trap, because there's just no way the trailer actually tells us what's going on
I also feel like people are not realizing that the story is from the killers perspective. From my POV it seemed like they showed mainly a lot of what will be in the first act.
Twist endings aside, I think spoilers can be okay. If the movie is entertaining/interesting enough, then how they get to that ending is just as fun.
my boyfriend and i are complete opposites
he keeps up on new stuff coming out, if it’s a franchise he likes, he watches all the promos, reads the theories… by the time the movie is out he literally knows what’s going to happen.
i hear about a movie on accident, look at the poster and title, someone says “you should watch this, it’s good” and MAYBE read part of the description, then decide to go. when i go into a movie i want to go in completely blind or as blind as possible. this is why i NEVER seek out movie trailers. and i hate spoilers.
sometimes i have to prevent my boyfriend from speaking as soon as he gets started on a movie topic and yell “NO SPOILERS” because he’s been reading the articles for months. he doesn’t even think of it as a spoiler anymore. meanwhile, i barely know what the plot is. i like doing it this way because it makes me feel like a kid again. movies surprise me because i dont try to figure them out. i just let them play and react accordingly. yes i am the girl who cries at the obvious cliches.
but as soon as i show him a movie i like that i’ve already seen before which he has no knowledge of, he can predict the twist within 2 minutes. this man drives me insane.
I never watch entire trailers anymore! As soon as I know I wanna watch it I switch it off
I have a mind for jokes and a scrambled egg brain for everything else. So I am mad at a trailer for spoiling all the jokes/the best jokes because I will remember that.
My favorite trailers right now are for Skinamarink and Kane and Lynch 2 dog days. They show basically nothing but the general vibe and it’s executed so well
Also on the spiderman one, the multiverse thing is the entire premise of the movie. They're trying to draw in fans of the older Spiderman movies.
I feel like the M Night Shyamalon movie Trap has an inexcusible giveaway in its trailer
Plus it's a Shymalon movie. Everyone knows there will be a twist. Question is will the twist make sense
If it’s a shyamlon movie there will be a twist so the trailer giving a basis to the plot makes sense
I thought the same when I saw the “twist” in the trailer I just felt like what else could possibly happen now
I feel like there's gonna be a twist on the "twist" in the trailer
Shamamlon love twisting the trailer twist
12:45 There's actually a really interesting backstory behind the "Suicide Squad" trailers. The first one is pretty dark and bland, but was more accurate to the actual film. The second one was done by a trailer house, which added all the colors and Queen music. The studio then scrambled to try to retroactively edit the movie to be more like the upbeat trailer. And thus, the mess that was "Suicide Squad".
Its my 29th birthday and this is the perfect gift. Thanks a million Scott ❤
"How Dare You?" merch when?? It's like your signature line, imo. You put a certain stank on it that really sticks in my head.
I can't remember which movie it was, but I remember assuming a movie I was about to watch had the whole movie in the trailer. The first 5 minutes was basically the trailer, and by 10 minutes in every scene in the trailer was shown. The rest of the movie was great and the trailer gave away absolutely nothing.
My feelings about misleading or spoilery trailers is pretty much what you said. It depends on what was spoiled or what way it was misleading. Now the one spoiler website I will absolutely check if I think it's at all necessary is "Does the Dog Die?" Because THAT is not a surprise I want in my entertainment.
Though I did think the romantic comedy version of the "Fight Club" trailer was a masterpiece. LOL
I've been avoiding movie trailers for the past 10 years because I got tired of predicting the movie before seeing it. I only need posters and screenshots to know if i'll go see it and even that starts to push it because things get predictable quick
lol same Fr
When people say "back then", they're probably thinking about TV commercial trailers, which were either TEASERS or a very condensed trailer, edited down to save money on adspace.
There was a movie from last year called Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken that the trailer was LITERALLY everything that happens in the movie down to the final climax. I think that's one of the reasons it was Dreamwork's worst movie release in the modern era, since audiences could see what the whole film was about, and it just wasn't good at all lmao
That seems like a win for us as consumers. We saved money by not wasting time and cash on a shit movie. Lol I personally would prefer a spoiler to a very good movie vs a crap movie with no spoilers that I now wasted upwards of $30 per person on.
The take on not remembering the trailer at all was spot on. I watch dimension 20 weekly, and at the end of each episode is spoilers for the next episode. I never remember any of the spoilers until they play out in the next episode. Also I too thought kangaroo jack was about a talking kangaroo and until rewatching as an adult, I remember him talking more than just the one scene.
My favorite movie trailer is the first trailer for Nope because it kind of misled me before I watched the movie. The movie was more complex than it seemed at first. It also was super mysterious so I wanted to see what it was about. Maybe others feel the same I won't explain it in detail though.
12:45 I agree! The very first trailer looked really good tbh. But then BvS came out and people were criticizing the DCEU and its dark tone (even more than they already had been after Man of Steel) so WB pretty much amped up the “fun” factor in Suicide Squad hardcore. I mean just look up the transformation of the movie’s logo throughout the trailers.
Also another movie whose trailer was very different than the actual movie was the Avenger’s Age of Ultron first official trailer. I still to this day still watch that trailer sometimes because it’s so good.
And I, too, hated Kangaroo Jack when I saw it in theaters as a kid because I also thought it was going to be about a talking kangaroo because of the trailer 😭
Also one more thing, I absolutely LOVE when a good trailer plays a song and makes me fall in love with the song. Like there’s been so many times where I’ve already even known the song but once it’s played on a trailer that I really like, it makes me love it even more. I’ve liked Madonna’s Like a Prayer a decent amount but the Deadpool & Wolverine trailer has definitely boosted it for me
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Exactly why I made a fake horror movie trailer about the eggs in my fridge. I wish I was kidding.
Need to see that lol
@@Regene2383 It's in a video on my channel called "How Movie Trailers Manipulate You" - I wanted to prove that a trailer can make anything look exciting lol
@@Regene2383 it's at the end of my "How Movie Trailers Manipulate You" video - I wanted to prove that a trailer can make just about anything look exciting lol
I was so intrigued by your comment that I went straight to your channel to watch it. Not only is this trailer hilarious, it's also very, VERY well done!
How on earth do you only have a thousand subscribers? You just got a new one, I'm definitely gonna check your other videos. 👍🏻
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia Wow, thank you so much, I really appreciate your comment. Welcome to the club :)
I literally walk into movie theaters last second to avoid the trailers
So I'm only at 1:26 making this comment and I did see the movie right when it came out. Mild spoiler, the dead guy is not the actor he is a double for.
Honestly the title of the movie is more of a spoiler because it's a pretty obvious play on words where he's a "fall guy" because he's a stunt man, but also gets framed to take the fall for a crime. Only one of those is a typical use of the phrase "the fall guy" and it is not the first one
Back in 2019, only like 2 weeks after Endgame came out, I was watching the NBA finals and they played a TV promo with "#1 Movie in the World" yadda yadda, but they literally showed the scene of Pepper and Tony fighting back to back from the final battle.
Two. Weeks. After the movie came out.
short answer: yes
long answer: yes. yes they are
Shorter answer: *nods*
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Ah yes my lunch break video
I've been ignoring the trailers so idk how bad they are with showing stuff, but Deadpool and Wolverine has so much promo I can't escape it. It seems like there's new images, actor comments, and trailers for that movie all the time.
Here’s the thing about studios lying in trailers, the first wave of viewers will pay and feel lied to, but it’s too late because they’ve already payed, but the second wave will be non existent because everyone leaves bad reviews and nobody else goes to see the movie. Let’s also point out that if they know what will put butts in seats, so they lie that their movie is about that topic, why don’t they just make a movie about that topic?
I think there was an instance that happened recently where someone successfully sued a movie studio for showing a trailer that wasn't completely accurate to what the movie turned out to be.
This is a problem, at least sometimes. I haven't seen a Marvel movie in a couple years now, but when I was invested I had to stop watching their trailers because while in the theater to see Thor: Ragnarok, I realized that every major reveal in that movie was spoiled in the trailer. I saw pretty much everything coming because I had seen, I think, two trailers for the film. It was ridiculous.
Thanks for being an all around positive and friendly guy, Scott. It really makes a difference sometimes.
There’s a movie coming out called Trap. It’s about a dad who takes his young daughter to a concert, and unknown to the concert attendants, the concert is where a serial killer plans to take his next victims. The trailer seemed SUPER interesting and genuinely something I wanted to watch, but in the last few seconds of the trailer they spoiled who the bad guy was (even though it was supposedly a “mystery”). I’m still gonna watch it but I am not nearly as excited.
It’s a shymalan movie their will be a twist so it’s fine
if you’re talking about the reveal of the killer, that happens really early in the trailer, because that’s what the movie is about… it’s from his perspective
that's not even what the trailer says the movie is about. it's a police trap for the serial killer, not a trap for the serial killer's next victim. If you're going to complain about learning what the premise of a movie is, at least get what you're complaining about right.
@@yt.byliam I'm of the opinion it's still a mistake to show that in the trailer. It would be more effective to leave out the suggestion of that.
@@jijitters i personally think it’s much more intriguing knowing we are following the killer. then it would just look like an average father save daughter from evil villain movie and i think that would garner much less interest. now this poses more intriguing questions like how he will escape this trap set for him AND how his daughter will play into the narrative.
but if that’s your opinion that’s fine, the op just made it seem like it was a huge reveal at the end when it was a key plot point given early in the trailer.
Honestly I find the whole concept of spoilers to be silly. I mean if someone feels like they've been robbed of on experience who am I to say they're wrong. I just think that there's so much in between these "spoiled" moments that people forget it's about the journey, not the destination. Also it is so wild to me how much value some people put on unspoiled media. I just don't get that same feeling I guess. Reading the synopsis of a novel is not the same experience as actually reading it to me, I view trailers the same way.
There's a whole lot more I can say about this fairly recent phenomenon of spoilerphobia but I digress. Great points as always, loved the video.
i wish books, series and movies had a wonderful tagging system like Ao3 tbh! i really dont like certain type of stories and themes, but a little book summary on the backcover is not gonna tell you what actually happens. a book or movie might be a romance story, but is it dark romance? is it a light, fluffy type of thing? does a main character die for a tragic plot twist???? i wish everything had a tagging system thatd be so convenient omg
I heard the trailer for My Girl hid a little too much! Poor parents, taking their happy kids to see a heartwarming coming-of-age movie... and bam, Macauley bites it.
10:37 it’s me I’ve been mentioned. I am someone who doesn’t care/kinda likes spoilers. I’ve always been that way I honestly find that 90% of the time I tend to like movies/books/tv shows more when I know the outcome going in then when I don’t, and I have to sit there stewing in anxiety. Like I literally can’t watch LOST because no one talks about the ending in great detail they all say “you just gotta watch it” well I don’t just gotta watch it I want to know it. I need to know that everything will be okay or mentally prepare myself for it not being okay. But again as Scott said this is extreme anxiety I don’t even like to be surprised for my birthday and Christmas I prefer to know what I’m getting as otherwise I get over anxious about it.
It must be very difficult to live a normal life like that, I'm sorry.
Scott, there's an early 90s movie that this is a remake of. Its called Fall Guy. A Stunt man finds someone dead and uses his wits and film technology to stay alive and exonerate himself while the actual criminal tries to both frame and kill our Double Entendre "fall guy"
I don't think I need to see the movie. I saw the first one, and it what's entertaining but nothing to write home about
Infinity war was spoiled for me, not from the trailers but from Adult Swim. About 10 days after the movie was released Adult Swim posted a black screen, during one of their breaks, with large white text spoiling the names of those who died in the movie. I was so pissed. It only happened once, but it was enough 😢
How in the world did you NOT know everyone was going to die in the end? That was obvious years ahead of time.
@scifigrl23 It wasnt obvious youre just being a jerk
@@SaturdayParker you're just mad that the rumor you heard were true.
@@scifigrl23 I couldnt care less if fans accurately predict something. The problem is when someone goes out of their to spoil something they know lots of people are hyped about.
And your attitude of well you should've been one of those fans that analyzed everything and figured it out sooner.
A lot of times trailers have deleted scenes, so you're not really seeing the actual movie.
With the Cast Away example them needing to know the answer to their question right away, is giving early signs of brain rot.
focus groups are cancer, i heard a lot of great endings were changed/reshot due to them. and I still wonder if any of them actually go to the movies at all
I love how Scott told us to watch the castaways trailer that didn’t spoil anything but also spoiled that Tom Hanks got off the island with the first trailer
It's kinda cool that old trailers were essentially free samples for movies.
this is definitely on account of my being a broke and extremely anxious little baby that fears disappointment more than anything, but i've always been completely fine with spoilers. in some cases they actually enhance my experience, because i don't spend the entire moving worrying about whether or not i'll have wasted my money to see a movie with an ending that i find disappointing. so i'm glad that you brought up people like me 😅
personally, a bio / written teaser is more important to me than a trailer.
some of the best movies i’ve seen are films that i didn’t watch a trailer for - banshees, eeaao, dune, anatomy of a fall, interstellar, holding the man, etc
I was talking with some friends last week about this, and the trailer for A Dog's Purpose actually LITERALLY gives away the entire plot. I unironically felt more emotion while watching the trailer than through the entire movie.
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People complain about everything. If you're worried trailers give too much of a movie away....then don't watch them. No one is forced to watch a movie trailers
Except those who are in a theater before the movie starts
what I hate is when all the best jokes of a movie is spoiled in a trailer. which leaves it slightly disappointing when you watch it and all the best gags you've seen before and dont hit as hard as they should have. all i can think is "oh i've already seen this"
from a movie theater employee: the average person tends to not even know the name of the movie they’re going to see, let alone what was in the trailer
I go to the movies most weeks and I always struggle when I get to the desk even if I just told myself the name XD. It's like there is a force field preventing people from getting it right ok.
@@vannareyne6336 there might be something there because i’ve heard people talking about which one they’re seeing but as soon as they come up to me i just get blank stares
I have a rule of watching 30 seconds of the trailer and then deciding if i want to watch it. this way i know enough, but not too much
I think Robert Zemekis once said something to the effect that people are more likely to see a movie if they know what's going to happen. People are weird
my guess is that people don't want to spend their money and time to go to a movie that turns out to be bad or unenjoyable. Kind of like when you feel like treating yourself to a meal at a restaurant because you had a hard week so you go to the place you have gone 100 times before and order the exact same thing to ensure you enjoy it.
something im guilty of and apparently is something a quite few people do, is straight up reading the plot on Wikipedia
Stupid*
@@starkis14159 I think equating knowing what's going to happen to knowing the quality is a mistake you've made here. Twists, reveals, unique developments - those are what make a movie good and well-written for people who aren't idiots.
It definitely stems from movie trailers giving away what would be big twists in the film or answers certain mysteries that are supposed to keep you guessing throughout the movie.
So spoilers for Terminator Salvation and Genesis: Salvation's trailer revealed that the main guy character is a Terminator with amnesia, and then Genesis' trailer revealed that John Connor is a Terminator.
As someone with severe generalized anxiety disorder who hates surprises, I may not speak for all of us but I love when a trailer/synopsis leaves me wanting more. I want a movie to wow me and blow my expectations out of the water, which is why I simply don't watch trailers anymore, I read the synopsis online and if it sounds cool, I'll go for it. I'd never go into a social situation without knowing every detail about the setting and people, but movies and theater give me the opportunity to go in blind in a way I would never normally do and it's oddly freeing.
Same, I have an anxiety disorder but I get pissed off if I'm spoiled about something, that takes all the fun out of it.
Hey, Scott! So glad to see you keep finding interesting topics - it’s got to be a real challenge at this point. ❤
a trailer that lied to me as a child was Bridge to Terabithia. I was a massive Narnia nerd and was sold on a Narnia-esque magical adventure. I've never recovered.
The approach I prefer for this is releasing teasers up until release weekend. Then all of the extended ‘spoilery’ trailers are released after that. Superfans like the spoil free teasers and will go in the first weekend. Then more people can be convinced by longer trailers after.
i was super excited for spider-man homecoming and i rewatched that trailer ad nauseam, because at that point i sort of trusted that the trailer makers wouldn't have told me too much about the movie, and as someone in this comment section mentioned, we in the superhero fandom tend to over-analyse trailers when they come out.
then i went to watch the movie with a group of friends, one of whom didn't know anything about spider-man and obviously hadn't watched the trailer. she sat next to me. and let me tell you, so so many times i would hear her react to something and i'd frown and be like well that was in the trailer. it wasn't necessarily the big reveals but things like [sm:hoco spoilers] tony actually being in the suit on the roof scene, and spider-man holding the ship together with his webs, and things like that. [end spoilers, although idk how u haven't seen that movie yet lol]. i still had a good time in the theatre but i definitely was not as emotionally invested as my friend was, because i'd been pulled out so many times.
so yeah from that experience, i adopted this new habit: if it's a movie that i know i want to watch, i do not watch the trailer at all, because then i go in completely blind and that's my favourite way to experience a movie. if it's a movie that i don't know if i want to watch, i watch the first 30ish seconds of the trailer, because i get an idea of tone and characters and genre. and only if it's a movie i don't want to watch or don't think i'll ever watch, then i watch the entire trailer, because "it'll give away the whole movie anyway." all of my friends and family know this too, to the point that when i'm in a movie theatre with them, they know i'm gonna be blocking my ears and closing my eyes during at least some of the opening trailers.