Who says you can't set up a Martin guitar as well as the others? Its all Hogwash and I'm setting out to prove it in this video. Support: / rosastringworks Website: www.rosastring...
Hey Jerry, You putting grooves in groove-less bridge pins reminded me of an article I read some months ago. Essentially, it said that it was sonically better to put the groove in the bridge/bridgeplate and then use groove-less bridge pins. This would also eliminate having to file an angle on the pin tips, as you recommend, and I've been doing for over twenty years. I haven't changed any of my guitars to this method, but I think all your many fans would be interested in your opinion of this issue.
I've been following you for what 3 maybe 4 years?...and this was the most consise straight through guitar set up vid I think you've made!!...and it'll be one of my "go to" tech vids as a reference 😉 🏴
I like your setups, this one is low. I try to set them .090 big e, .080 small e. After I sand the saddle if it is close, I leave it alone. You did teach me something with the nut, thanks Jerry!
Agreed! I Love the Zager guitars too. You sure did a great job, as always. I also string my strings like you. Only I wrap the top three strings just one more wrap, and then cinch it up. I'm also playing a couple of Orangewood guitars, and they too are set-up perfectly. I learned a LOT from you today. Bravo! 👏🏻👍😁
Thanks for this video Jerry, it's Don here from Hamilton NZ, I have a similar problem on 1 of my Acoustic's ( a slight hump ) & your simple instruction is Much appreciated, thanks again 😊😊
Wonder if that's why the top is all chewed up above the soundhole? If the owner doesn't trim his fretting nails, he must have nasty nails on his right hand, too.
That was a really good lesson on nut slots. It was really great to hear it go fro that fuzzy sound to so clear with just tweaking the slots to get them not to pinch.
Taking those heavy Grover tuners off the Martin guitars and putting Waverly’s on it helps tremendously! Takes several ounces off the peg head and lets it vibrate! It gives the guitar a much better feel without the weight on the peg head! Plus they stay in tune much better!
I've often thought about the added mass/weight of enclosed tuners; even on an electric... I'd say the ones with a thin metal covering might be preferable to the kinda machined metal chunks. But... I love the feel and ease of tuning of the high ratio, metal chunks; most of my 17 guitars have them.
Excellent job! Oh those Martins are sweet things! Nothing like the sound of those Martins on this earth. In a good way :) that D28 is gorgeous and understated.
When tuning the B string don't tune it open.... Fret the third fret and use your tuner to tune it to D.....That usually makes the B string sound more in tune.... Works best for me....
My old J-50 Gibson, you know, with the GD ceramic saddle, was a bugger to tune the B string. I just tuned it in unisen with the open E and left it alone. It wasn't 100% perfect but 99% was close enough to bluegrass that my mates couldn't tell the difference. Bob
Well Jerry , All I can say , because that always happens to me ! That is why I replace the strings one at a time ! Truth be told , I am sure it has happened to all of us no matter how Perfect we think we are !
Jerry, you are better than %99.084 of the other guys and gals who make luthiers appear to work magic on acoustic instruments . On the other hand, I cant see 0.001" at the nut in front of me or across the creek ! ! ! My calibrated eyes are too tired. Hahaha !
to me troublesome times are roaming, once more and as i once told you already, Jerry, you get me through again..... Thank you for this darned good video!!! (yep, needed to put 3 of them ! thingies there)
Must confess for string fitting, I use the 'Dave Doll' method which (for me) is simpler and have never had a string break or slip and it looks real neat. Bottom line is, whatever works that you're happy with.
Jerry, you had a video "214 RSW Gibson A Model Worst Fret Board Ever" I was just watching and a picture of an owner with a young lady. I believe the woman is Dale Evans before Roy Rogers. Thanks for all you do.
Hey Jerry. I always enjoy watching your stuff. I’m studying the Luthier business by watching you and some others. I hope to be a decent one one day towards the end of my airline pilot career. I’m also an aircraft mechanic and I love the “science” of building and maintaining guitars and mandolins. Got a question… In this particular case, would you consider compensating the nut as well as the saddle? If you had to do it again? I don’t think I’ve ever seen you do that. Not sure what the advantages or disadvantages are?
I never cut my strings until everything is complete just incase I hit a problem and the strings need to come off as its a pain re stringing without length.. them chromatic tuners are just not very accurate at all Jerry invest in a strobe tuner as they are 30 times more accurate to 1/10th of a cent than a chromatic.
Everyone does mistakes and there is only one thing to fix that....do it again and do in the correct way!:) I do tend to use a string winder...i find the easier than cause you always need to hold the string when you do your method cause i sometimes loose the grip on the string and it slips away specially the unwound strings.
As Dave would say“you don't cut the strings until you have all six strung up and tuned“ 👍Maybe a bit of pencil lead? You will NEVER be able to set up a Martin as good as a Taylor.
You could if you were changing the bridge. then with care you could make intonation right on zero cents. REMEMBER A GUITAR IS ONLY IN TUNE A FEW SECONDS**as soon as you put your hands on the neck it goes out of tune approx 5 cen ts***THAT IS THE REASON**NEVER TIE A SOULDER STRAP TO THE PEG HEAD **DR KEL
Great Video but the mandolin drowned out the guitar. Would have been better to hear the guitar since that is what the video was about. Great instructional video! I love these! I give this one a 10.
Why not ream/taper the stringholes to match the unslotted pins and also slot the bridge for the life of the bridgeplate? A reamed/slotted bridge with unslotted pins is superior to the standard Martin configuration with straight (unreamed/untapered) pin hole and slotted pins. Helps to reduce wear on the bridgeplate where the ball-end contacts the bridgeplate.
@@RosaStringWorks i guess i meant, i would not have re-used it after the first time i put it on, and after i had clipped off the excess. maybe a bit of OCD on my part.
to be clear a tight saddle is improperly fit, exact is right but it MUST not be bound at all,,, it is best described as A PISTON, not sloppy for certain but jammed is not right either.
You could if you were changing the bridge. then with care you could make intonation right on zero cents. REMEMBER A GUITAR IS ONLY IN TUNE A FEW SECONDS**as soon as you put your hands on the neck it goes out of tune approx 5 cen ts***THAT IS THE REASON**NEVER TIE A SOULDER STRAP TO THE PEG HEAD **DR KEL
In my experience/s with under saddle pick ups? Is that it sounds more like an electric guitar then acoustic. If I wanted my guitar to sound electric? I woulda bought an electric! Lol! LR Baggs "Lyric" is what I have in my acoustic. Yeah, there's pros and cons with different pickers and sizes of venues and all that. Mostly cuz the Lyric turns the whole "box" of the guitar into a microphone. But as far as a "truer" sound of the acoustic? It's purdy darned good!
Hi Jerry, i didn’t hear how many thousandths your pick was to test action one the first fret? I went back and looked but I didn’t hear what it was. Can you tell me what that measurement is that you used? Thanks in advance!
****PLAGIARZED***As Dave would say“you don't cut the strings until you have all six strung up and tuned“ 👍Maybe a bit of pencil lead? You will NEVER be able to set up a Martin as good as a Taylor.
Hey Jerry, You putting grooves in groove-less bridge pins reminded me of an article I read some months ago. Essentially, it said that it was sonically better to put the groove in the bridge/bridgeplate and then use groove-less bridge pins. This would also eliminate having to file an angle on the pin tips, as you recommend, and I've been doing for over twenty years. I haven't changed any of my guitars to this method, but I think all your many fans would be interested in your opinion of this issue.
Liked, long time subscribed, and now commented. You usually confirm choices I've made or you show me another better way to do things. Thanks, Jerry.
You packed an incredible amount of info in 56 minutes! This video should be a go to for anyone wanting to setup their acoustic guitar.
Thanks Jerry and Emeri for the content. Enjoyed the video and the instructions.
The most complete, comprehensive and coherent video of a guitar set up routine I've ever seen. Jerry, you are on top of your game.
Great results on the Martin setup! It sounds 100% better than when it first came into the shop.
Emeri, I'm glad you're aboard the "Jerry Express". Your talents really shine through.
I was checking along with my tuner while you did it and it was spot on.
Great setup Jerry! Looking forward to get my mandolin setup by you.
I've been following you for what 3 maybe 4 years?...and this was the most consise straight through guitar set up vid I think you've made!!...and it'll be one of my "go to" tech vids as a reference 😉 🏴
I like your setups, this one is low. I try to set them .090 big e, .080 small e. After I sand the saddle if it is close, I leave it alone. You did teach me something with the nut, thanks Jerry!
Thoroughly educational and enjoyable. Once of your best Jerry. Thankyou.
Great video, Jerry! Clear and concise explanation of the process. And I would certainly not object to more videos with musicians in the shop! 👍🏻
Don't pinch your nuts! Right, got it. Great advice as always Jerry
Love the music that’s chosen for all these videos.
Agreed! I Love the Zager guitars too. You sure did a great job, as always. I also string my strings like you. Only I wrap the top three strings just one more wrap, and then cinch it up.
I'm also playing a couple of Orangewood guitars, and they too are set-up perfectly. I learned a LOT from you today. Bravo! 👏🏻👍😁
Thanks for this video Jerry, it's Don here from Hamilton NZ, I have a similar problem on 1 of my Acoustic's ( a slight hump ) & your simple instruction is Much appreciated, thanks again 😊😊
I like when Jerry says there’s a really good way to prevent nail gouges on the frets. Trim your nails! Can kinda see why he didn’t say it this time. 😁
Wonder if that's why the top is all chewed up above the soundhole? If the owner doesn't trim his fretting nails, he must have nasty nails on his right hand, too.
That was a really good lesson on nut slots. It was really great to hear it go fro that fuzzy sound to so clear with just tweaking the slots to get them not to pinch.
Nice work Jerry, it's always great to see the customer's reaction, and he's obviously really happy!
Great work and great song choice! I always enjoy your videos, Jerry. Thanks.
Taking those heavy Grover tuners off the Martin guitars and putting Waverly’s on it helps tremendously! Takes several ounces off the peg head and lets it vibrate! It gives the guitar a much better feel without the weight on the peg head! Plus they stay in tune much better!
I've often thought about the added mass/weight of enclosed tuners; even on an electric... I'd say the ones with a thin metal covering might be preferable to the kinda machined metal chunks. But... I love the feel and ease of tuning of the high ratio, metal chunks; most of my 17 guitars have them.
This was great, I always learn something from Jerry. I especially liked the customer jam at the end... and did you catch the wood on that mandolin!?
Excellent job! Oh those Martins are sweet things! Nothing like the sound of those Martins on this earth. In a good way :) that D28 is gorgeous and understated.
Sounded like a different guitar when you were finished. Nice work.
When tuning the B string don't tune it open.... Fret the third fret and use your tuner to tune it to D.....That usually makes the B string sound more in tune.... Works best for me....
Hmmm... interesting. The method I use is octave-tuning at the 7th fret; 8th for the B string.
My old J-50 Gibson, you know, with the GD ceramic saddle, was a bugger to tune the B string. I just tuned it in unisen with the open E and left it alone. It wasn't 100% perfect but 99% was close enough to bluegrass that my mates couldn't tell the difference. Bob
Forget the L.R.Baggs pickup, go for K&K Pure Mini. Great sound, no battery... no problems
Good song choice. Merle Haggard always a good choice. Good set up, thanks for the video
Your customer is a good singer! That Mandolin is beautiful!!!!! Thanks! 🌞✌️😎🎻
I wish I had as much tools and gadgets like you👍💯
Some great down home vibes in this one. Thanks Jerry.
Well Jerry ,
All I can say , because that always happens to me ! That is why I replace the strings one at a time ! Truth be told , I am sure it has happened to all of us no matter how Perfect we think we are !
Fab! Cheers Jerry. All the best mate
Fantastic work as always 👏
A really great video Jerry. You are a master.
Jerry, you are better than %99.084 of the other guys and gals who make luthiers appear to work magic on acoustic instruments .
On the other hand, I cant see 0.001" at the nut in front of me or across the creek ! ! ! My calibrated eyes are too tired. Hahaha !
to me troublesome times are roaming, once more and as i once told you already, Jerry, you get me through again..... Thank you for this darned good video!!! (yep, needed to put 3 of them ! thingies there)
Great set up video Jerry. And good tips for the nut. Knew which mandolin it was. Guess how?
Volume, of course... 😂
from Brazil , thanks !
Must confess for string fitting, I use the 'Dave Doll' method which (for me) is simpler and have never had a string break or slip and it looks real neat. Bottom line is, whatever works that you're happy with.
He has a good voice
A little high on the g.... and don't pinch yer nuts.... classic!
Jerry, you had a video "214 RSW Gibson A Model Worst Fret Board Ever" I was just watching and a picture of an owner with a young lady. I believe the woman is Dale Evans before Roy Rogers. Thanks for all you do.
Hey Jerry. I always enjoy watching your stuff. I’m studying the Luthier business by watching you and some others. I hope to be a decent one one day towards the end of my airline pilot career. I’m also an aircraft mechanic and I love the “science” of building and maintaining guitars and mandolins. Got a question… In this particular case, would you consider compensating the nut as well as the saddle? If you had to do it again? I don’t think I’ve ever seen you do that. Not sure what the advantages or disadvantages are?
Fantastic
Cool i learned something about the nut.. thanks...pex
Great set up JERRY YOU ARE #1 TO SET UP A GUITAR & MANDOLIN.
Don't pinch your nuts. Good one Jerry.
Thx Jerry!
Great job Jerry!
I never cut my strings until everything is complete just incase I hit a problem and the strings need to come off as its a pain re stringing without length.. them chromatic tuners are just not very accurate at all Jerry invest in a strobe tuner as they are 30 times more accurate to 1/10th of a cent than a chromatic.
Everyone does mistakes and there is only one thing to fix that....do it again and do in the correct way!:)
I do tend to use a string winder...i find the easier than cause you always need to hold the string when you do your method cause i sometimes loose the grip on the string and it slips away specially the unwound strings.
As Dave would say“you don't cut the strings until you have all six strung up and tuned“ 👍Maybe a bit of pencil lead? You will NEVER be able to set up a Martin as good as a Taylor.
You could if you were changing the bridge. then with care you could make intonation right on zero cents. REMEMBER A GUITAR IS ONLY IN TUNE A FEW SECONDS**as soon as you put your hands on the neck it goes out of tune approx 5 cen ts***THAT IS THE REASON**NEVER TIE A SOULDER STRAP TO THE PEG HEAD **DR KEL
Great Video but the mandolin drowned out the guitar. Would have been better to hear the guitar since that is what the video was about. Great instructional video! I love these! I give this one a 10.
Dagg Jerry, what are ya , stringing with gauge I mean Air craft cable ?
Why not ream/taper the stringholes to match the unslotted pins and also slot the bridge for the life of the bridgeplate? A reamed/slotted bridge with unslotted pins is superior to the standard Martin configuration with straight (unreamed/untapered) pin hole and slotted pins. Helps to reduce wear on the bridgeplate where the ball-end contacts the bridgeplate.
Wrong string, I've done that once,a few times
“Grabbing your skin … or whatever.” Yeah, keep your whatever away from yield fret ends. 😄
Oooohh! Ouch!
Who else has the guts to fix a guitar on camera with the customer behind you!
Jerry, were did you get your crowning file and leveling apparatus??? You are the Man!!!!!! xxx
Tom T. Hall!
if it was me, i would've put a fresh, new low E string on the sumbeetch. But that's just me.
It was brand new and fresh
@@RosaStringWorks i guess i meant, i would not have re-used it after the first time i put it on, and after i had clipped off the excess. maybe a bit of OCD on my part.
to be clear a tight saddle is improperly fit, exact is right but it MUST not be bound at all,,, it is best described as A PISTON, not sloppy for certain but jammed is not right either.
Hey Jerry
You could if you were changing the bridge. then with care you could make intonation right on zero cents. REMEMBER A GUITAR IS ONLY IN TUNE A FEW SECONDS**as soon as you put your hands on the neck it goes out of tune approx 5 cen ts***THAT IS THE REASON**NEVER TIE A SOULDER STRAP TO THE PEG HEAD **DR KEL
In my experience/s with under saddle pick ups? Is that it sounds more like an electric guitar then acoustic. If I wanted my guitar to sound electric? I woulda bought an electric! Lol! LR Baggs "Lyric" is what I have in my acoustic. Yeah, there's pros and cons with different pickers and sizes of venues and all that. Mostly cuz the Lyric turns the whole "box" of the guitar into a microphone. But as far as a "truer" sound of the acoustic? It's purdy darned good!
What was wrong with the old pins.?
They were unslotted. That bridge setup requires slotted pins.
@@pmscalisi: No, that was the new pins. The customer just had
new pins to put in. There was no mention of the old pins.
If they were the original pins, they were probably plastic.
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How much coffee did Jerry drink this morning?
It 9/24/2023. Are you still working?
You forgot to show how to set neck relief
Keep playing those guitars, and remember... Don't pinch your nuts. 😂
well, the owner is a heavy picker
And doesn't like cutting his nails. Did you see how chewed up the fretboard is?
copyright infringement for using my name :)
Hi Jerry, i didn’t hear how many thousandths your pick was to test action one the first fret? I went back and looked but I didn’t hear what it was. Can you tell me what that measurement is that you used? Thanks in advance!
16
????? Oh it's a squeaky fan! It sounds like a tortured bird!
And you are familiar with that sound how???
You should see that fan, it's olde as Moses. I'd squeak too if I was that old.
****PLAGIARZED***As Dave would say“you don't cut the strings until you have all six strung up and tuned“ 👍Maybe a bit of pencil lead? You will NEVER be able to set up a Martin as good as a Taylor.
How many cents is really close??????
I would think 2.
But then, that's just my 2 cents.
@@zapa1pnt ***Thanks for your 2 cents worth***I think Jerry should say what the cents readiing is***DR KEL
@@dscdrkel5546 You're too serious, Doc.
It was a joke. 😁
@@zapa1pnt ***You are a great fan **Jerry needs more commenters like you. ***DR KEL
LOL...
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I will put my gf 360 tak up against Martin any day
You fog
Your working too fast because the customer is sitting there.