Total bummer, but much respect to you Ted for taking responsibility and making it right for the customer. Your dedication and integrity to the craft is exemplary.
I love the fact that even with the absolute shit show that this turned into you still didn't have an ounce of defeat in your voice! Yeah, there was angst and trepidation...but no defeat! Bravo! Can't wait to see how this plays out.
Me either! "Next week" has come and gone. Where's part 2?!? 😉 J/K I just recently discovered your channel and have been amazed by your skills. You're pretty much the Yoda of the luthier world in my mind at this point. Looking forward to learning what nifty techniques you use to duplicate a neck. Best of luck with things cooperating a little more from here on out!
Everyone gets bitten once in a while. I admire you for stepping up and accepting what you have to do to "make it right". I used to be an automobile technician. I really understand that feeling! Thanks for sharing.
Same. I was pretty glad I got into the habit of telling management immediately when I screwed up. Other guys would wait and hide it until the customer came to get the car and saw it, then asks "what happened here?" or "why isn't my car done yet?" Because Jim didn't tell them he popped a tire until he was done with the car. Well, because someone with no integrity screwed up and didn't tell anyone until 20 mins before the customer got there. I learned not to do that the first time I tried it.
Thanks for sharing this Ted, I look forward to part 2. I know it’s no longer about profit and you’re a good man for taking it for the customer. Given the information, a new neck and fretboard seems like the only thing to do and a huge improvement. You do museum quality work so this will be super interesting for us. God Bless.
I've been watching all your videos religiously but it's the first time I'm commenting. First off, THANK YOU for making those vids. Your work is nothing short of exemplary and it's always kind of zen watch for me. Right now is a very difficult time for me as my beloved cat is sick with leukemia and a debilitating anaemia and this video is the first thing that took my mind off of that for a while. Once again, thank you!
My song writing kitty Bilge, of 21 years is having seizures, and I was holding her and watching Ted's Zen, Darn critters capture our hearts, I wish you and your little beastie well. Kindness is a blessing.. Here is a clip of my kitty at 3 minutes th-cam.com/video/KB5kmdN337Y/w-d-xo.html
Used to tell my coworkers and clients in the world of graphics and communication, expect a perfect result every time and the world will school you. Sometimes things go badly in spite of everything. Your honesty and work ethic are commendable. Informative and instructive video, much appreciated!!!
This is a perfect amalgam of the few major failures I've dealt with in my shop. 1: A Takamine where the owner tried to adjust the truss rod himself instead of dealing with the 20% humidity level at his home. Truss rod broke and needed replaced. The epoxy was basically impossible to separate. Absolute nightmare, but I made it work. 2: A low-end one-off classical that had a faux Spanish heel, and desperately needed a neck reset. After trying to remove the neck like a normal dovetail, it wouldn't budge, and appeared to be an actual Spanish heel (you know what that means). Client decided on the "Kung-Fu" neck reset. Turned out that it was a dovetail, just a bizarrely wide and long one with the joint end _between_ the frets. 3: Japanese Fender Jaguar with a substantial warp in the neck. Heat set it, planed the board, and refretted it. Seemed great for the first few weeks, but the problems came back. I couldn't charge the client more, and didn't feel right with him having paid for work that didn't pan out, so I built him an exact copy with torrefied maple and other premium parts and materials at no extra cost. He liked it so much that he had me build him a new body too. So it worked out in the end. 99% of things work out perfectly, but in a real shop, these issues happen. I really appreciate you showcasing them, because everybody else's portrayal of lutherie on TH-cam is heavily curated and tries to fabricate this fantastical image of everything going right 100% of the time, which is nonsense. I started making videos to show the reality of this work, but your videos have filled that void, so less work for me 🙂 I appreciate you, Todd! When people ask me who to watch for this stuff, you're my first and only choice. Everybody else is either so-so, or falsely portray the job. Your videos are exactly what was needed in this field.
I know Ted doesn’t spend a lot of time in the comments, but as a watcher of every single video of his, I want to put it out there that he is all class, 100%. Full Stop... Immensely thoughtful and experienced, cautious yet measured in his approach and genuinely upstanding in his commitment to the outcome that best represents the multitude of factors, stabilized by his experiences. I know he will do well by the customer in this situation and I am thankful that he shared this experience for all of us to appreciate and learn and be reminded of what true craftsmanship is made of…
i've always suspected that this sort of thing can happen. and it's not surprising that those doing the repairs are reluctant to acknowledge it. good to see that you are. it says a LOT about one's integrity. kudos!!!!!
I love the professional integrity. I’ve had to do this a time or three in my field of work, flooring. It’s not fun, and never cheap. But the message it sends is priceless and lasts a lifetime. Customers never forget when they’ve been taken…or taken care of. Great decision Ted.
I wonder if you could have loosened the rod, removed the frets, planed the fretboard down to below the fret slots and then make a new board to go on top, 1.5mm thicker at the 12th, would get an extra 3mn at the saddle. Would that not be a reasonable solution?
Interesting idea, although I guess whichever means you use to remove the fretboard once it's removed you might as well route the neck & insert carbon fibre rods and possibly replace the truss rod to enable future neck adjustment? Just changing the geometry of the fretboard itself may not necessarily allow for that. It seems likely that in this case the objective was retain as many of the original features as possible for the customer so how to retain the fretboard on may have been the priority in the thought process.
Ted, I have high admiration for your decision to address this situation with absolute integrity and the sincere desire to make things right. You are in a minority of artists who work to such high standards. You have my sympathy for the unpredictable outcome of the non-curing epoxy and my respect for treating your customer and his guitar with the utmost respect. There are others on TH-cam who claim to work in your area of expertise that would have told the customer that the guitar was THEIR PROBLEM. You stand head and shoulders above them.
Every week I'm reminded why I love this channel more than any other. It's not just the meticulous and well articulated guitar repair stuff. It's mostly the little history lessons on topics you might never otherwise encounter, the sense of dedication and responsibility that's evident always, and the general cantankerousness in the face of a world that tries its best to befuddle and swindle us all. I don't know how Ted does it, but I sure am glad he does.
I know youve talked about it before, but please open up a patreon. I (and many others, I'm sure) feel as if you're providing a service with your videos and would like to pay for them. You don't even need to put content on the thing or plug it or whatever. Just let me kick a few bucks your way when you upload. Thanks.
what a nightmare also, people are commenting on "learning from our mistakes" but i'm not sure what the actual _mistake_ was here; it was more two painful _discoveries_ , both really unlikely, both involving epoxy and both just completely randomly happening to the same guitar a fretboard glued with epoxy in the first place (!) and a form that wouldn't soften with heat at that, then an apparently well-regarded brand of modern epoxy that decided to completely fail
I own a Giannini 000-28 knockoff that I bought new in 1973 that has the exact same problems as this. I love the guitar as it has traveled a long road with me in my life. Today it has acceptable action, barely. The saddle is very low to accomodate playability, but the sound it produces is not what it once was. I might just slot the saddle for a better break angle on the strings but I really want to remove the fretboard, replace the truss rod and do a neck reset. I've been hesitating on that for several years now as I am unable to find any data on this Giannini in regard to the neck attachment and glues as you sadly found out on this Morris. If any one out there knows how these vintage Giannini's were put together it sure would help. I scour the internet hoping to find a similar Giannini to experiment on, the sacrficial lamb, so to speak! Thank you for all of your insights.
I don't think he made a mistake, I think he just wants to show us how to cope with mistakes and how to have a plan B when things go really wrong even thought it is a lot of work.
Well that wasn't what I expected ! Your knowledge and experience of these instruments is incredible, when you were describing the reasons for the finish blemishes and their choices of materials and construction it sounded like you were about to say " . . . . but there is only so much you can do to repair them" and then when you realised you couldn't straighten or remove the neck to reset it I expected you to say "sometimes you just have to say no". It felt like I was watching you walking into a trap of your own making, was this just after getting over the sickness ?
wow...and now for something completely different ,I'll say! Beyond the always appreciated honesty and non cooperative epoxy this is really a mystery...why did the neck did not respond to the heat press? why did they use epoxy to glue the fretboard to the neck?!? ... oh well re necking it is and nail bitingly waiting for the next episode!!!
kon-nichi-wa gang from Japan. oh!! Ted-san repairs Japanese guitar!! how about Japanese(copy model)guitar? is it good product? cool and beauty copy(model)? I'm lucky and happy to watch Ted-san repairs Japanese(copy model)guitar again. I'm glad and proud to be born in Japan. Good luck and take care Ted-san♪
I feel bad for Ted! There is no one I'd rather have work on my guitar than him. And even his super high level of expertise can be knocked off the rails by a non standard budget guitar from yesteryear that, like he said, was never meant to be taken apart or repaired. To have to replicate and carve a neck for a budget guitar must be INCREDIBLY frustrating and somewhat annoying. Such a weird turn of events with that epoxy that never cured too! How strange!
Hi Ted, thanks for sharing. I wonder, why it wasn't an option to just shave the fretboard off and fix/replace the truss rod and the fretboard, instead of replacing the whole neck? Thanks!
I think it's probably more likely that student grade guitars are difficult to repair maybe? Mostly because they are just not made that way, while a master grade guitar are usually made for longevity as well.
My thought would be to preserve the neck but replace the fretboard. I’d yank the frets, then carefully machine off most of the fretboard with a router jig, leaving only a small bit left to be scraped off. With fretboard gone then you would know if it’s a dovetail or what, and upgrade the truss rod and reset the heel.
Aww man, tried too hard. All credit to you for your ethics. St Peter will give you a free pass, I'm sure... could you say a word for me while you're there, I could definitely use the help.
My store imports a lot of used instruments from Japan and amongst them is always a few mid to high range Morris models. They are phenomenal for their prices and so many of the higher ones use old stock Brazilian rosewood for backs and sides.
Man looks in the abyss, there’s nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss........
*Hey just had an idea for a less risky neck heater; a heating pad!* I have one that gets really hot, but a better and larger one to wrap around it a few times? Cheers!
id cut that fretboard off and go from there even tho it really does need a new neck but at that point you can install a new 2 way truss rod and carbon braces and its good fora lifetime, IF the wood is repairable which it sounds like its pretty punky and wet.. so a new neck is all you can really do, you can scarf out his old headstock and reuse that so it will look real close to original
My very first drum kit had 'Morris' hi-hats, given to me by my Mum for Christmas 1980, a.k.a. the best Christmas ever 😊👍 Most likely the same company 🙂
I dont normally make comments on youtube, but as a custom builder this was awesome to see. Every now and then things go really really badly, and on occasion ive had to start from scratch sometimes half way or even 3/4 of the way through a build. It sucks and feels terrible - knowing youre the only one that can fix it and make it right again is a heavy burden. This is the first time ive ever seen anyone in our industry be honest when mistakes get made. We are human and this reminds me of that. Good on ya for being real about it. Good luck with the new neck!
My Dad would say “you can explain a higher price but there is no excuse for poor workmanship.” A trait not common these days, thanks for taking the high road. It will maintain your “miracle worker” status. Good on you.
I know it doesn't feel good, but being honest and putting in the work to hand back your customer a playable (and even better) guitar is what makes a good, trustworthy businessman. If I were in your area this is the sort of thing that would make me want to send you my work even more than I did before. It tells me that no matter what, you'll do your best by me. You're good people.
"Ted Woodford, humbly making the world a better place, one guitar repair at a time." No irony intended. T-Dub is the real deal. His integrity, care and expertise brings me to tears now and then. In this fucked-up world, it is great to share enjoyment of this gentleman/craftsman with this fine community of viewers. I salute my fellow TW fans and I proudly wear my TW t-shirt.
Well, that went from "not a half bad repair" to tits up real quick. There's definitely a convo with the epoxy manufacturer in the near future. When I saw "Morris" on the title card, I half expected this to be an English guitar. There's a joke among MG and Morris Minor owners that the car manufacturer briefly made vacuum cleaners, and these were their only products that didn't suck.
@Peter Sage. You may already know this. There is a "Rose Morris" music instruments shop in Denmark Street, London W.1. The dealership was established in 1920, and are still operating today. Stay safe and well.
In my line of work we have a problem with ‘results dissemination’ called the file drawer effect - where inconvenient results never see the light of day. This a good example of openness when it’s not a happy ending. As always, your ethics are commendable Ted. Great video, really looking forward to Part 2.
Frustrating for sure. I'd say every repairer has had to dig themselves out of a hole at some time. I would certainly contact the glue manufacturer. Not to be a PITA, but to let them know that their product may be faulty. Most companies will be grateful to find out so they can investigate and take steps to fix their product. Hope you can look back and smile at this in a few years...
When I had my own electronics repair shop, a customer brought in a video disc player(remember them?) that was inoperative. I spent a couple of hours disassembling, and repairing it, until it was working fine. Just to be sure, I left it running on the work bench mostly disassembled. I thought it was in a stable position. I went to the front of the shop, and heard this horrible crash, and crunching sound... the main circuit board had broken in two, upon hitting the floor. A circuit board was not available for replacement, of course, so I spent 6 or 8 hours repairing each broken circuit board land that had broken. It worked flawlessly when I was done. I returned it to the customer, and charged him for the original repair, never telling him about the disaster. I saw him again a couple of years later, and found out he had never used the player after the repair! Being a conscientious technician means doing what is necessary to "make it right". Bravo for your work ethic, and thank you for sharing even when it's a cluster.
Holy shit snacks, that turn at the end was not what I was expecting! You are a phenomenal luthier and I have every confidence that this will end up being awesome. I really appreciate seeing when things go bad though, it shows that you’re human and that you don’t just give up, you find a solution.
Ted, thank you so much for sharing a “failure” repair (so far). It goes a long way in confirming my suspicions that you are a human. We all have failures that we can hide or be responsible for and make right. Congratulations on being a responsible adult human who isn’t “perfect”.
@@kindisc agreed. As an armchair luthier, my first thought when he started was replace the fretboard. Maybe pull the frets and use 40 grit sandpaper and get rid of that fretboard.
AND also having customers that prefer to 'maintain' their worn out stuff at any cost. maybe suggesting to the customer that there are thousands of perfectly good, used, acoustic guitars on the markets that sound and play better than the junk on your bench. if your making nicer music more easily, that''s a plus. it also the point of having an instrument. you can always hang you beloved 'companion' on your living room wall, to resonate in sympathy whilst you're actually making music with a nice guitar.
Your perseverance, sir. You maybe are the best. I'm really excited for the next part, however I offer condolences for all the trouble this thing has been causing you. I personally just had to scrap a quarter sawn ebony fretboard because I made a huge mistake. We won some we lose some. Keep winning.
You reminded me of something with that truss rod. I tried building an electric guitar when I was young. I designed, assembled/glued,cut and finished the body. I picked up a cheap guitar for a temporary neck just to get it working (A gremlin I think). I tried to adjust the truss and it popped right out the back of the neck. Needless to say this set me back as I attempted a glue and repair and re-shape the neck, I ended up giving up because I determined that I made the body out of the wrong wood, it was maple, and it was very heavy. You live and learn. Lots of love for what you do.
You should cut the fretboard off using a very thin japanese saw. The 0.3mm you will lose from the kerf won't matter & will allow you to fix the neck instead of replace it.
Total bummer, but much respect to you Ted for taking responsibility and making it right for the customer. Your dedication and integrity to the craft is exemplary.
I love the fact that even with the absolute shit show that this turned into you still didn't have an ounce of defeat in your voice! Yeah, there was angst and trepidation...but no defeat! Bravo! Can't wait to see how this plays out.
There was probably a good half hour of profanity left out when he edited this video.
Me either! "Next week" has come and gone. Where's part 2?!? 😉 J/K
I just recently discovered your channel and have been amazed by your skills. You're pretty much the Yoda of the luthier world in my mind at this point. Looking forward to learning what nifty techniques you use to duplicate a neck. Best of luck with things cooperating a little more from here on out!
Everyone gets bitten once in a while. I admire you for stepping up and accepting what you have to do to "make it right". I used to be an automobile technician. I really understand that feeling! Thanks for sharing.
Same. I was pretty glad I got into the habit of telling management immediately when I screwed up. Other guys would wait and hide it until the customer came to get the car and saw it, then asks "what happened here?" or "why isn't my car done yet?" Because Jim didn't tell them he popped a tire until he was done with the car.
Well, because someone with no integrity screwed up and didn't tell anyone until 20 mins before the customer got there. I learned not to do that the first time I tried it.
Mr. Woodford was raised properly. Ethics, there is NO substitute.
@@eliduttman315 no subsitution for ethics, and penetration is paramount.
Thanks for sharing this Ted, I look forward to part 2. I know it’s no longer about profit and you’re a good man for taking it for the customer. Given the information, a new neck and fretboard seems like the only thing to do and a huge improvement. You do museum quality work so this will be super interesting for us. God Bless.
I've been watching all your videos religiously but it's the first time I'm commenting. First off, THANK YOU for making those vids. Your work is nothing short of exemplary and it's always kind of zen watch for me. Right now is a very difficult time for me as my beloved cat is sick with leukemia and a debilitating anaemia and this video is the first thing that took my mind off of that for a while. Once again, thank you!
Sorry about your kitty…I’ve been in the same situation and finally had to have her euthanized.
My song writing kitty Bilge, of 21 years is having seizures, and I was holding her and watching Ted's Zen, Darn critters capture our hearts, I wish you and your little beastie well. Kindness is a blessing.. Here is a clip of my kitty at 3 minutes th-cam.com/video/KB5kmdN337Y/w-d-xo.html
Used to tell my coworkers and clients in the world of graphics and communication, expect a perfect result every time and the world will school you. Sometimes things go badly in spite of everything. Your honesty and work ethic are commendable. Informative and instructive video, much appreciated!!!
I needed to hear that right now. Thank you!
Well, that settles it ... time for a Woodford t-shirt! Fascinating video, as ever, Ted - looking forward to Part 2!
Got mine in the mail yesterday!
Where is part 2
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This is a perfect amalgam of the few major failures I've dealt with in my shop.
1: A Takamine where the owner tried to adjust the truss rod himself instead of dealing with the 20% humidity level at his home. Truss rod broke and needed replaced. The epoxy was basically impossible to separate. Absolute nightmare, but I made it work.
2: A low-end one-off classical that had a faux Spanish heel, and desperately needed a neck reset. After trying to remove the neck like a normal dovetail, it wouldn't budge, and appeared to be an actual Spanish heel (you know what that means). Client decided on the "Kung-Fu" neck reset. Turned out that it was a dovetail, just a bizarrely wide and long one with the joint end _between_ the frets.
3: Japanese Fender Jaguar with a substantial warp in the neck. Heat set it, planed the board, and refretted it. Seemed great for the first few weeks, but the problems came back. I couldn't charge the client more, and didn't feel right with him having paid for work that didn't pan out, so I built him an exact copy with torrefied maple and other premium parts and materials at no extra cost. He liked it so much that he had me build him a new body too. So it worked out in the end.
99% of things work out perfectly, but in a real shop, these issues happen. I really appreciate you showcasing them, because everybody else's portrayal of lutherie on TH-cam is heavily curated and tries to fabricate this fantastical image of everything going right 100% of the time, which is nonsense. I started making videos to show the reality of this work, but your videos have filled that void, so less work for me 🙂
I appreciate you, Todd! When people ask me who to watch for this stuff, you're my first and only choice. Everybody else is either so-so, or falsely portray the job. Your videos are exactly what was needed in this field.
I know Ted doesn’t spend a lot of time in the comments, but as a watcher of every single video of his, I want to put it out there that he is all class, 100%. Full Stop... Immensely thoughtful and experienced, cautious yet measured in his approach and genuinely upstanding in his commitment to the outcome that best represents the multitude of factors, stabilized by his experiences. I know he will do well by the customer in this situation and I am thankful that he shared this experience for all of us to appreciate and learn and be reminded of what true craftsmanship is made of…
Ho Lee Buddy , Ted is Canadian . it is not 'full stop' , it is 'full send', and i can tell you that for free , eh ?
i've always suspected that this sort of thing can happen. and it's not surprising that those doing the repairs are reluctant to acknowledge it. good to see that you are. it says a LOT about one's integrity. kudos!!!!!
I love the professional integrity. I’ve had to do this a time or three in my field of work, flooring. It’s not fun, and never cheap. But the message it sends is priceless and lasts a lifetime. Customers never forget when they’ve been taken…or taken care of. Great decision Ted.
Looking forward to seeing how this repair turns out! Definitely a tough one! Excellent video! Thanks for sharing this !👍😃🎸🎶
Ouch.
On a more selfish note, looking forward to part 2. A treat, I suspect.
I wonder if you could have loosened the rod, removed the frets, planed the fretboard down to below the fret slots and then make a new board to go on top, 1.5mm thicker at the 12th, would get an extra 3mn at the saddle. Would that not be a reasonable solution?
Here is an idea that is certainly worth remembering!
I was wondering about this. Mill the old fretboard off.
Interesting idea, although I guess whichever means you use to remove the fretboard once it's removed you might as well route the neck & insert carbon fibre rods and possibly replace the truss rod to enable future neck adjustment? Just changing the geometry of the fretboard itself may not necessarily allow for that.
It seems likely that in this case the objective was retain as many of the original features as possible for the customer so how to retain the fretboard on may have been the priority in the thought process.
Ted, I have high admiration for your decision to address this situation with absolute integrity and the sincere desire to make things right. You are in a minority of artists who work to such high standards. You have my sympathy for the unpredictable outcome of the non-curing epoxy and my respect for treating your customer and his guitar with the utmost respect. There are others on TH-cam who claim to work in your area of expertise that would have told the customer that the guitar was THEIR PROBLEM. You stand head and shoulders above them.
Every week I'm reminded why I love this channel more than any other. It's not just the meticulous and well articulated guitar repair stuff. It's mostly the little history lessons on topics you might never otherwise encounter, the sense of dedication and responsibility that's evident always, and the general cantankerousness in the face of a world that tries its best to befuddle and swindle us all. I don't know how Ted does it, but I sure am glad he does.
Oh, and I laughed so hard when he said applesauce that I scared my cat. One of those giant spring straight up into the air things. Fun!
I know youve talked about it before, but please open up a patreon. I (and many others, I'm sure) feel as if you're providing a service with your videos and would like to pay for them. You don't even need to put content on the thing or plug it or whatever. Just let me kick a few bucks your way when you upload. Thanks.
He has a merch shop, you could buy some merch :)
@@lokarrsboots9337 don't like buying things I don't need.
Working on Labour Day weekend? Very Canadian.
what a nightmare
also, people are commenting on "learning from our mistakes" but i'm not sure what the actual _mistake_ was here; it was more two painful _discoveries_ , both really unlikely, both involving epoxy and both just completely randomly happening to the same guitar
a fretboard glued with epoxy in the first place (!) and a form that wouldn't soften with heat at that, then an apparently well-regarded brand of modern epoxy that decided to completely fail
I own a Giannini 000-28 knockoff that I bought new in 1973 that has the exact same problems as this. I love the guitar as it has traveled a long road with me in my life. Today it has acceptable action, barely. The saddle is very low to accomodate playability, but the sound it produces is not what it once was. I might just slot the saddle for a better break angle on the strings but I really want to remove the fretboard, replace the truss rod and do a neck reset. I've been hesitating on that for several years now as I am unable to find any data on this Giannini in regard to the neck attachment and glues as you sadly found out on this Morris. If any one out there knows how these vintage Giannini's were put together it sure would help. I scour the internet hoping to find a similar Giannini to experiment on, the sacrficial lamb, so to speak! Thank you for all of your insights.
I don't think he made a mistake, I think he just wants to show us how to cope with mistakes and how to have a plan B when things go really wrong even thought it is a lot of work.
so you think he intentionally murdered a paying customers guitar to teach you a lesson about integrity? smh
The horror.
Stepping up when it all goes pear shaped. Kudos. Looking forward to round two.
Yes I do want to see it go wrong. Looking forward to part 2.
Well that wasn't what I expected !
Your knowledge and experience of these instruments is incredible, when you were describing the reasons for the finish blemishes and their choices of materials and construction it sounded like you were about to say " . . . . but there is only so much you can do to repair them" and then when you realised you couldn't straighten or remove the neck to reset it I expected you to say "sometimes you just have to say no".
It felt like I was watching you walking into a trap of your own making, was this just after getting over the sickness ?
So brave. Sorry Ted. You got this, but sure wish you didn't.
I think you knew how important this was for everyone to see, and it made for a great video.
What actually happened after this? I don’t believe there was any update?
Search for "re necking the Morris part two" he did a bang up job, came out really nice
So happy to see him close to 100k subs!! I remember he had only 20k. Such an amazing channel, both entertaining and educational.
The "tagline" told me... don't watch... but I couldn't look away. ughhhhhhhh
Ouch... yup it happens. Good intentions to go the full distance... but Lassie forgot to mention the road was washed out.
Uff. He's lucky that you're working on it.
wow...and now for something completely different ,I'll say!
Beyond the always appreciated honesty and non cooperative epoxy this is really a mystery...why did the neck did not respond to the heat press? why did they use epoxy to glue the fretboard to the neck?!?
... oh well re necking it is and nail bitingly waiting for the next episode!!!
Oof. Looking forward to part 2
kon-nichi-wa gang from Japan. oh!! Ted-san repairs Japanese guitar!! how about Japanese(copy model)guitar? is it good product? cool and beauty copy(model)?
I'm lucky and happy to watch Ted-san repairs Japanese(copy model)guitar again. I'm glad and proud to be born in Japan.
Good luck and take care Ted-san♪
As an electronics repair guy, I also live the knowledge that occasionally I’ll end up with a complete fail. Experience just reduces the likelihood.
I feel bad for Ted! There is no one I'd rather have work on my guitar than him. And even his super high level of expertise can be knocked off the rails by a non standard budget guitar from yesteryear that, like he said, was never meant to be taken apart or repaired. To have to replicate and carve a neck for a budget guitar must be INCREDIBLY frustrating and somewhat annoying. Such a weird turn of events with that epoxy that never cured too! How strange!
Hi Ted, thanks for sharing.
I wonder, why it wasn't an option to just shave the fretboard off and fix/replace the truss rod and the fretboard, instead of replacing the whole neck?
Thanks!
Sometimes a student grade instrument takes a master to repair.
I think it's probably more likely that student grade guitars are difficult to repair maybe?
Mostly because they are just not made that way, while a master grade guitar are usually made for longevity as well.
My thought would be to preserve the neck but replace the fretboard. I’d yank the frets, then carefully machine off most of the fretboard with a router jig, leaving only a small bit left to be scraped off. With fretboard gone then you would know if it’s a dovetail or what, and upgrade the truss rod and reset the heel.
Aww man, tried too hard. All credit to you for your ethics. St Peter will give you a free pass, I'm sure... could you say a word for me while you're there, I could definitely use the help.
I feel sorry watch you go through this...I'm enjoying the process though...sorry 🙂
epoxy boat builder says a long "OPEN" time means no cure, especially in cold weather
It doesn't go wrong, it just takes more time to be correct...
My store imports a lot of used instruments from Japan and amongst them is always a few mid to high range Morris models. They are phenomenal for their prices and so many of the higher ones use old stock Brazilian rosewood for backs and sides.
I have a Morris electric that is a copy of a Gibson Melody maker. Nice guitar.
Having a hand crafted Ted Woodford neck should actually increase the value of the guitar in any sane world.
Man thinking today to up do my 69 yahma fg239 red 12 string oh boy costly she plays
It's sad we get attached to the wrong piece. You have the skill to make it right, just this isn't the best guitar to use those skills.
Take care Ted
We learn most from our mistakes. Although frustrating I’m glad you shared this with us.
I look forward to part 2
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Man looks in the abyss, there’s nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss........
Not good for you but educational for me! Will you scarfe on the original headstock?
*Hey just had an idea for a less risky neck heater; a heating pad!*
I have one that gets really hot, but a better and larger one to wrap around it a few times?
Cheers!
id cut that fretboard off and go from there even tho it really does need a new neck but at that point you can install a new 2 way truss rod and carbon braces and its good fora lifetime, IF the wood is repairable which it sounds like its pretty punky and wet.. so a new neck is all you can really do, you can scarf out his old headstock and reuse that so it will look real close to original
What happened to the neck duplication video? That sounded most Interesting!
My very first drum kit had 'Morris' hi-hats, given to me by my Mum for Christmas 1980, a.k.a. the best Christmas ever 😊👍 Most likely the same company 🙂
Best quality videos on TH-cam by far.
You poor dude. Ted, you did your best and you'll make things right in the end. You can do it! 😊
Wonder iif re surfacing the fingerboard would have got you flat flat?
I dont normally make comments on youtube, but as a custom builder this was awesome to see. Every now and then things go really really badly, and on occasion ive had to start from scratch sometimes half way or even 3/4 of the way through a build. It sucks and feels terrible - knowing youre the only one that can fix it and make it right again is a heavy burden. This is the first time ive ever seen anyone in our industry be honest when mistakes get made. We are human and this reminds me of that. Good on ya for being real about it. Good luck with the new neck!
AHA! So you are Human! =D
Don't let it get you down, you'll get 'em next time.
WHERE IS PART 2?
Your honesty and integrity are beyond measure. I hope you made some money on your other work that month.
one thing to make right your mistake with the customer. its another to show the entire world. my hat too you sir
My Dad would say “you can explain a higher price but there is no excuse for poor workmanship.” A trait not common these days, thanks for taking the high road. It will maintain your “miracle worker” status. Good on you.
Good on you Ted - integrity is everything.
I know it doesn't feel good, but being honest and putting in the work to hand back your customer a playable (and even better) guitar is what makes a good, trustworthy businessman. If I were in your area this is the sort of thing that would make me want to send you my work even more than I did before. It tells me that no matter what, you'll do your best by me.
You're good people.
Sorry for your troubles. Thank you for your integrity.
Damn, there is attention great attention to quality and customer care.
"Ted Woodford, humbly making the world a better place, one guitar repair at a time."
No irony intended. T-Dub is the real deal. His integrity, care and expertise brings me to tears now and then. In this fucked-up world, it is great to share enjoyment of this gentleman/craftsman with this fine community of viewers. I salute my fellow TW fans and I proudly wear my TW t-shirt.
You cant polish a turd the more you rub it the more it crumbles.
Keep up the positivity. If we had a few more people with your outlook and mindset in this world t would be a much happier place.
Good lord. I felt your disappointment. Sorry this turned out such a pita.
Screw that you inform the client it's hard enough to be one
Integrity. Such a delight to see it in your work ethic, my friend. Well done. This alone deserves respect and admiration.
Wow...your job is similar to being a surgeon!
Love your videos, keep it up!
Some days you eat the bear. Some days the bear eats you.
Pete Townshend would know what to do with this guitar…
Well, that went from "not a half bad repair" to tits up real quick. There's definitely a convo with the epoxy manufacturer in the near future.
When I saw "Morris" on the title card, I half expected this to be an English guitar. There's a joke among MG and Morris Minor owners that the car manufacturer briefly made vacuum cleaners, and these were their only products that didn't suck.
@Peter Sage. You may already know this. There is a "Rose Morris" music instruments shop in Denmark Street, London W.1. The dealership was established in 1920, and are still operating today. Stay safe and well.
You're very skilled and experienced but ,unfortunately, sometimes sh!t just happens. Everyone faces this at times.
Not just that, it have have a negative impact on your reputation and that's worse!
In my line of work we have a problem with ‘results dissemination’ called the file drawer effect - where inconvenient results never see the light of day. This a good example of openness when it’s not a happy ending. As always, your ethics are commendable Ted. Great video, really looking forward to Part 2.
Wow, that was a really spicey episode. Thanks for sharing this with us. Looking forward to part 2 next week!
Brush hardener onto it. It’ll set.
This is what it means to be a true professional
Frustrating for sure. I'd say every repairer has had to dig themselves out of a hole at some time. I would certainly contact the glue manufacturer. Not to be a PITA, but to let them know that their product may be faulty. Most companies will be grateful to find out so they can investigate and take steps to fix their product. Hope you can look back and smile at this in a few years...
When I had my own electronics repair shop, a customer brought in a video disc player(remember them?) that was inoperative. I spent a couple of hours disassembling, and repairing it, until it was working fine. Just to be sure, I left it running on the work bench mostly disassembled. I thought it was in a stable position. I went to the front of the shop, and heard this horrible crash, and crunching sound... the main circuit board had broken in two, upon hitting the floor. A circuit board was not available for replacement, of course, so I spent 6 or 8 hours repairing each broken circuit board land that had broken. It worked flawlessly when I was done. I returned it to the customer, and charged him for the original repair, never telling him about the disaster. I saw him again a couple of years later, and found out he had never used the player after the repair! Being a conscientious technician means doing what is necessary to "make it right". Bravo for your work ethic, and thank you for sharing even when it's a cluster.
Ouch! This is painful on many levels!
Holy shit snacks, that turn at the end was not what I was expecting! You are a phenomenal luthier and I have every confidence that this will end up being awesome. I really appreciate seeing when things go bad though, it shows that you’re human and that you don’t just give up, you find a solution.
Haha shit snacks
Ted, thank you so much for sharing a “failure” repair (so far). It goes a long way in confirming my suspicions that you are a human. We all have failures that we can hide or be responsible for and make right. Congratulations on being a responsible adult human who isn’t “perfect”.
i think it was the epoxy that wasn't perfect. ted's O.K.
AND THE FRET SLOT ERROR.
@@kindisc agreed. As an armchair luthier, my first thought when he started was replace the fretboard. Maybe pull the frets and use 40 grit sandpaper and get rid of that fretboard.
AND also having customers that prefer to 'maintain' their worn out stuff at any cost. maybe suggesting to the customer that there are thousands of perfectly good, used, acoustic guitars on the markets that sound and play better than the junk on your bench. if your making nicer music more easily, that''s a plus. it also the point of having an instrument. you can always hang you beloved 'companion' on your living room wall, to resonate in sympathy whilst you're actually making music with a nice guitar.
Yikes. It happens to us all.
This is a video I’ve wanted to see for a long time, a professional making an error and having the guts to put it out there. Good on ya Ted.
What's that thet say? S**t happens!! 😆
Hey Ted, have you done any videos explaining your neck heater build?
Wow. Oh my. Heavy sigh!
Your perseverance, sir. You maybe are the best. I'm really excited for the next part, however I offer condolences for all the trouble this thing has been causing you. I personally just had to scrap a quarter sawn ebony fretboard because I made a huge mistake. We won some we lose some. Keep winning.
better than any drama on tv!
You reminded me of something with that truss rod. I tried building an electric guitar when I was young. I designed, assembled/glued,cut and finished the body. I picked up a cheap guitar for a temporary neck just to get it working (A gremlin I think). I tried to adjust the truss and it popped right out the back of the neck. Needless to say this set me back as I attempted a glue and repair and re-shape the neck, I ended up giving up because I determined that I made the body out of the wrong wood, it was maple, and it was very heavy. You live and learn. Lots of love for what you do.
+1 craftsman respect
You should cut the fretboard off using a very thin japanese saw. The 0.3mm you will lose from the kerf won't matter & will allow you to fix the neck instead of replace it.