Golf Shaft MATTERS! | FINDING TITLEIST TSR PERFECT COMBINATION!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video PGA Professional DAN HENDRIKSEN will be reviewing the NEW Titleist TSR Drivers. Dan has headed up to the Titleist Performance Centre at Woburn to test the Titleist TSR 2, Titleist TSR3 and Titleist TSR4 models.
This Driver is already on Tour and is being used by Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, Max Homa, Ian Poulter, Will Zalatoris, Cam Smith and Cameron Young
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TSR3 with Graphite Design UB is the bomb. 20+ yards over my last driver, smooth, and forgiving.
Great video Dan. I agree shaft is so important. Unfortunately not all Titliest customers are treated like you. I was fitted for a tsi 3 with a tensai blue 55 stiff at a Titliest fitting day at a local range. They used beaten up range balls.
Purchased a tsi3 driver and tsi2 3 wood. The driver was problematic from day 1. I had a high right , 1 or 2 drives a round that killing my scoring. The treatment by Titliest when I contacted them after about a week was initially to purchase a heavier head weight. In the end I found a heavier shaft myself (tensai 65 blus stiff) to try at a local club.
Eventually I was offered a fitting at st Ives, 5 months later and I was never given any indication by customer services that Titliest would change the shaft despite extensive contact.
The tensai 65 was better and eventually I was offered a replacement shaft. Came a bit late for me, I got so frustrated waiting I wrapped my £500 driver around a tree. Titliest make good products but treat normal customers terribly.
I got fitted for a TSR 2 last week and got it yesterday. Went straight out on the course with it and it was fabulous.
Ended up with a 50 gram shaft (10 grams lighter than my old Callaway driver) in regular on a B4 setting. I have added 10/12 yards but the dispersion was ridiculously good and a huge improvement.
Cost a fortune but as golf is my main hobby it's worth it.
Staggered how good this club is and how well fitted I was.
By the way, great swing Dan
I had a GD shaft in a Mizuno driver years ago. Loved that shaft. OK, it was purple and I loved the colour, but it worked better than the standard shaft🤣
Fantastic insight into shaft fitting, good stuff Dan 👍👏🏼
Great video dan I’m looking forward to getting my new clubs (titleist) all through the bag first time ever lol so should be interesting and the guy who fitted me seemed rather shocked that I’d never tried the wedges
I thought it was crazy how much difference a shaft can do🤣 I bought the old rogue on sale brand new. Played a year with it then went for a fitting to find the correct shaft. The difference between different shaft when I was testing it was so big. The fitter dialed it in pretty quickly what length of shaft I needed. Tried a few different ones. Then it was on the weight and where on the shaft the flex was. Eventually found 3 that worked and it was just down to feel really after that. I wanted a tensi shaft but acctally when I tried a aldida rogue white shaft it just felt better and they both worked great. The aldida was cheaper so I bought that instead🤣 the driver I bought on sale for 200£ and the shaft cost me only 80£ (they had a sale on it) the fitting was free so pretty happy with the cost.
Also tried the new drivers stealth, new rogue and all. I gained absolutely zero compared to my old rogue so no point in changing.
Hope Mark Crossfield doesn’t find out that his old vlog buddy has become a ‘shaftoid’ !😂😂 GD Tour ADs are a great range of shaft options- Bernie in the orange DI and now Dan in the blue UB - Nice combo for your pairings in the vlogs. 🤙👍😎
think you have the right approach, all else equal go with the longest... but its close enough that if you liked the Hzrdus or the Tensei more as far as comfort, strike, etc. just go with the combo you like swinging the most
Dan, the only thing that I saw was your dispersion was much better with the AD UB then it was with the other 2. ou were at 10.4R with the UB, 10.5R with the Tensei And 2.5R with the Hazrdus. But when you look at them individually all of your shots with the UB were to the right with one to the left the other two you were going both right and left in both directions. So once you set up for your shot with the UB you'll be much more consistent than setting up for a shot with the other 2 and not quite sure if it's going to go left or right. I think the UB will end up being a much better shaft for you and much more consistent. Just a thought.
no brainer for me. more ball speed. more carry. better feel. and it looks bad ass - great color scheme. graphite design definitely takes the win
Pretty surprised they didn’t mess with the weight in the head. I tried all the shafts and they were all pretty similar but when they added +4g weight into the head that was the magic recipe. I can feel the head more and know where the face is. My accuracy got a LOT better; that little weight in the head made a huge difference. They have all kinds of diff weights. Maybe mess around with it. The feel also changed for the better for me
I agree Jacob, I was fit last year for my driver and after trying a bunch I landed on the TSi3, and my fitter didn't play with the weights either even though I was calling out other driver models for being "head heavy" during the fitting. 4 grams can make a really big difference to a golf club. Fitters have all the tech at hand yet aren't utilising it to its full potential, shame really
Cannot really comment on the shaft but crikey, the head makes an epic noise 👍😀
I went for a fitting on Wednesday and was almost identical in findings.. I tried Tensei black, Hazardous (which was awful for me) and the AD iB (6 - 60g) gained 5mph ball speed against other shafts and my Ping G410 but more impressive was on average 10pm ball speed from around 150 to 160 and a gain of average 10 yards carry.. I went with the idea I would prefer the TSR 3 but found the 2 was by far the best.. only downside to the whole fitting was the jump from £525 to £700 in price for the AD shaft… need to sneak it past the wife if I buy it, unless I mysteriously win a DHG media prize draw 🙈🙈😂😂
😉 you never know
Truthfully, you talked me out of worrying about fitted shafts. Mine are doing the job well enough. Change means adjustment. It's always a trade off. For now, I'd rather pay the price for a better swing than a better shaft.
I did get a TSI3 with an xstiff and i play only stiff, also the shaft for the TSI is longer than my 915 and it was a recipe for disaster. I could not hit the ball well at all. I opted for a 3wood for all but two holes. I will be switching shafts though
True….but very wrong at the same time.
If you know the flex you need, thats only half the battle! Flex point is super important too.
I fit into a firmer Stiff, not XS but something with a higher kick point, a low kick point sends my ball up to the moon with a club face 28* at impact, that isn’t a swing problem, I get lessons….its a shaft and head loft problem only spotted with a fitting.
@@M82RKY I'm not saying you can't gain from getting fitted. What I'm saying is most golfers would get a better return on their investment with a couple half hour swing lessons and a few hours practice than they will see with a shaft that's better suited to them.
Flex, flex point, lie angle all make a difference but a better swing is still going to score better.
Really shows, that for the average golfer up charge shafts are a waste of money
If you don't agree, go and watch Mark Crossfield
Shaftoids Beware golf tips.
Dan is actually in this video, it's in two parts.
Ahh, another Graphite Design Convert! I’m gaming 4 of them throughout my bag right now. The materials make the difference.
The dispersion is better with the graphite design, in that with the other 2 your misses were roughly 50/50 L&R, the GD shaft you only missed 1 left. The GD shaft has basically eliminated the left side of the course and a few yards longer. Think that's conclusive enough Dan, that's the shaft for you 👍
Great video, never had a shaft fitting🤔
Think there's a few rouge results in your summary due to quad not calculating low spin. 1500, for carry of 280?
I got fitted a couple weeks ago and I was fitted in the UB as well but in the 7 tx. Oddly enough the TSR2 was the lowest spinning head for me and I got more ball speed out of mishits than the other 2 heads. Gained 20 yards over my 410 lst
I tried the UB and found it too "loose" which was a surprise coming from the XC in my TSi3 as the UB replaced it. Best fit for me was the Hzrdus, pretty much the same ball speed/spin but better directionally. Good video though and shows how fitting is key to get the most consistent results.
The UB and the XC are completely different shafts with different profile’s. The UB did not replace the XC
@@gearbox1858 Just repeating the words of the Titleist fitter
but the hazrds had a much better dispersion dan!
I have a fitting booked in 10 days for the TSR and my last fitting to a light 50g stiff definitely improved my distance and accuracy over my old 915 with 60g stiff. As l get older l have found getting the correct shaft is more important. Still making 100+ club head speed and getting nearer to 70 than 60 years old. Hope the TSR lives up to the positives l had noted from most reviews
I thought you were a friend of Mark Crossfield who is staunchly "shafts dont matter" in his outlook. Do you differ from him?
i need to go have my t100s and tsi hybrids driver and woods fitted i still love the last gen. my wedges and putter i had done at a tour event and it really takes those clubs to the next level. I also want to change to kbs tour black shafts.
Interesting video. Shows how a really good club fitting can improve your game.
Great segment, Dan. My TSR3 Driver is gaming the Tour Design XC and TSR3 3W the Tour Design UB. So smooth and the kick provided the Tour Design shafts combined with the superior design of the TSR is second to none. 👍🙌💯🙏
Great video. Exactly what i hoped to find. Have had both the TSR 2 and 3 heads with various lofts amd shafts. All are low dispersion and long, but low launch. Looking for higher launch angle in a shaft. You demo very little difference in all three but you didnt discuss shaft weight or swingweight? Also, theres no chance of me investing $379 for a GD shaft after paying $500 for the driver, esp with basically no benefit. I am shocked you are staying with GD shaft.
Took me a minute to dial in the TSR2 from the SIM1… tried a bunch of shafts and was overdrawing the ball with a little lower flight… put in an old Fubuki V (some say the Aldila Ascent is a repainted Fubuki V)… ABSOLUTELY BOMBS!!!!! The shafts really do make a difference… with that said, a ridiculously expensive shaft doesn’t always mean it’s better for you. Find what shaft works for you, feels good and you can get comfortable with looking down at each round.
So it’s roughly £450 for 3/6 yards so not worth it 😂 but good video cheers Dan ✅
Good info Dan. I recently purchased the TSR3 9 degree with the Ik Black 65g stiff. My ball speed/launch/spin is a mirror image of yours. Can you please tell me the exact AD shaft that your were fitted with? My misses is the to left as well. I would like to have that shaft as well. Thanks.
Bought a TSi with a Tensei white 75G Xstiff, as I previously played a Callaway Epic Flash with a HZRDUS black 6.5 75G shaft. Could not consistently hit the driver with the Tensei shaft, eventually got the HZRDUS shaft with a Titleist tip and the club became the most consistent driver I've ever hit.
My biggest criticism is that you didn't even touch on the dispersion of the three shafts. Surely hitting as close to target is better than 5 yards further? Especially if that's five more yards 10 yards right if target?
I went in for a driver fitting today - first time ever for a driver. Confessions, I usually have a look around for a model a couple years old on sale, make sure it has a stiff shaft, 10.5* of loft and is nice looking overall. Make a couple swing to see how it feels in hand and head to the register to cough up some $$$. After watching your video Dan (and a few others), I felt compelled to stop doing that and go in for a proper fitting.
Prior to going in to the shop, I had 3 newer drivers in mind; rogue st, stealth and tsr2 (i like ping but the turbulators, or whatever they call them, put me off). I really thought the rogue st max was going to be the best fit but it wasn't. AND . . as we went thru various heads and shafts it became obvious it was time for me to move to a regular flex shaft (getting older). I grudgingly worked thru the reg flex shaft / head loft combo's and my assumptions were wrong and wrong again. I needed less loft due to too much backspin. It was costing me a lot of yardage. And when it came to a head that i was hitting most consistent, no contest, it was the TSR2 9*. This head combined with the Tensei blue 55 in reg flex gave me a beautiful ball flight with a carry in the low 230's and total distance knocking hard on the door of 260. And it felt great to hit.
My grumpiness at moving down the line of shaft flex was supplanted by a, "Wow, this is sooooo much better". And even better than that, I know that the TSR2 / Tensei combo we came up with is what works best for me. It was worth the extra time and effort.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Two thumbs up for you, your sidekicks Bernie and Jordan, as well as the rest of your guests that visit. Well done.
I’m really wanting to upgrade to a Grapite Design shaft, need a higher launch for my TSI3 driver.
All very interesting Dan. Not a Titliest fan tbh, but the new one does sound good. Obviously there are players who will spend £529 on the new titliest driver and will benefit from a fitting but for me a gain of maybe 5 yards off driver is not enough for the outlay. I am not saying for some that extra 5 yards isn't a good thing but for me it's about bang for buck. The whole fitting process with the guys from titliest looks top notch trying out usually high upcharge shafts for not much of an upcharge is for some a great saving.
That's what I say to my wife after a night of drinking 3:16
Then that’s what she says to me 3:32
Strange how you were fitted for a shaft for your tsi driver and wasn't happy with it and changed it 6 months later expensive fitting mistake for someone who has to pay for shafts
Was fitted earlier this year into Rogue Max and a GD XC 6s. Phenomenal…. When I started hitting it, I had to swing at 90% to be able to time the delivery but as I started to get more and more comfortable with it, I can now go after it when I want to.
The head and the shaft brought spin down considerably and I’ve hit some of my longest drives ever this year. (Particularly into wind ! No more balloon balls)
The top players (I’m certainly not one off 😂) play these shafts for a reason.
And yet there's other TH-camrs who say shaft doesn't matter 👀😂
Great video, despite the numbers aren't vastly different it just shows how different shafts perform and finding the one that suit's you best.
I think that was great fitting and alot of good information. Thanks.
Great video Dan. Just been set up for the TSR2 and the graphite design Tour AD IZ shaft. Only one round under the belt so far but impressive results
You brushed over the important bit of consumer info…. How much extra is the GD UB?? Can’t mention it’s a premium option and not say.
I’m really not sure John, I think it changes from club to club or shaft to shaft
Been really looking forward to this video.
Did it live up to expectations?
The Hzrdus Black offered with the TSR, is COMPLETELY different than the old Hzrdus Black.
Did they not have any Ventus shafts for you to try? Those have been one of the most used shafts by the top players, who have access to everything and more, in the last couple years.
No, never had that
@@DanHendriksenGolf The Fujikura Ventus, blue or black, should be on your "shafts to try" list for sure. Maybe Lee has some?
@@rowdyroddy519 I agree. Tried Tensei Blue, GD XC, GD GT, Diamana, Aldila, Ventus Black and Ventus TR Black in my TSr3. TR Black won with distance and consistency. It's a must try.
@@lkae4 I am gaming the old original Aldilla NV 75x in my Dr/3w.. It outperforms the Ventus Black I have every time I do a head to head test with them. I would recommend people give that shaft a go.
REALLY tempted to try out my Autoflex in the TSR3. But my Stealth has been really good. It was my first non Titleist driver for at least 10 years.
If it ain't broke don't fix it 😉
Looks like the shaft differences are very small. Out of interest, roughly how much extra would the premium shaft cost a retail customer? An extra £300 isn't worth it for most medium handicappers
I think around £200
Cost to produce the stock shaft is a most 20$ the upgraded are at the very most 35$ it’s just wrong on so many levels what Titliest is up charging consisidering the cost they are charging 😢👎🏾
Great video Dan,you can't beat a good fitting,👍⛳
Out of I terest what's ur swingspeed on trackman/ gc quad?
About 107/8
@@DanHendriksenGolf I'm the same but was in a TOUR AD UB 6X... just felt a wee bit too much for me given the profile
Do you think a decent club pro can give you anywhere near that level of dialing you into a driver shaft ?
They should be able to Kev, if they are trained 👍
Just went back to TSR4 myself. I play spinny.... But the Tensei 1K Black was/is fabulous. It's back in the bag.
What Tensei model were you fitted into? I was fit into the 1k blue stiff. Combo with the tsr2 produced amazing numbers
If money is no object, then you go with graphite design ($285) or autoflex ($790) however for most of us that dont want to break our banks, sticking with stock HZRDUS makes better sense. If you have $40 extra, then upgrade to PRX HZRDUS.
very interesting well done video.....i have two shafts that i find suit me and my swing.... TENSEI BLUE and the VENTUS RED TR....amazing how much difference a shaft can make....i am now a believer at 58 years old.....cheers from Canada
How much did the fitting cost?
I got fitted a few days ago. I was looking at the TSR3 and 4. I fitted slightly better into the 3. We tried all kinds of shafts. My Sim2 gamer has a Ventus velocore black shaft, so we tried a ventus black on the title it’s too. We didn’t get into the hzrdus, but DID try the graphite design UB (in a TSR2 head). It was too soft in the middle and the fitter said he also had the same issue and went back to his old shaft.
I opted for the Tensi 1K black and will re-tip my Ventus to a titleist tip and I’ll have two shaft options. The Ventus was longer but a little bit bigger dispersion circle and the Tensi was a tad shorter but straighter.
Interesting to see the experience of the fitting - undecided as to whether any gains I would get from TSR versus my TSI2 would justify the outlay !
But it’s so shiny
Which specific Graphite Design shaft were you using?
Tour AD UB 60 stiff.
What was that huge watch manager chap was wearing ?
🤷🏻♂️
Love your rhythm barbie
Great video
How much is the upgraded shaft to the public?
About £200 ish
A few retailers have the Tour AD UB shaft for £120 upcharge.........
Very interesting especially since the upgrade wins which is reassuring . Hzrdus had better dispersion?
Used my current shaft, GD XC, for my fitting and saw great numbers. None of the current offerings could match. Was looking for extra forgiveness over TSI3 with 2, was pleasantly surprised.
They nailed the look of the 2 this year. Much closer to the 3's pear shape. TSi2 looked too much like a Callaway Max driver.
Have gone through a fitting and later demoed the TSR2 and TSR3 club heads a number of times. The feeling of stability and ball flight with both the Graphite Design Tour AD-DI and UB shafts is really something. I think for me it will be the Tour AD-DI 65!
Good choice 👍
I dont understand club fittings, your ball is at 154 but playing 8.5/9 im at 168/170 playing 9 with a fitted shaft and thinking of adding more loft??
My head hurts
All depends about angle of attack and spin as to what loft is correct for you 👍🏻
0.8% extra ball speed. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Nice vid. These fitting vids are a real eye opener and show just how good the fitters are. It's good to see the differences in performance out of them shafts even though they are very similar but it highlights little tweaks that can be made. That DG shaft looks really nice. Keep up the good work DHG
I really liked this one, Very well done!
5 yards carry is a big gain really💪
Big difference between the trackman and the qwoud about 15 yards
Yeah, amazing really
One measures from club face, the other centre of club head st impact.
Generally faster speeds from GC Quad
Need time stamps on a vid like this
Are you using standard grips with your clubs?
Yes 👍
@@DanHendriksenGolf have you experimented with any others? Seem to remember Paul trying or changing, was it last year?
Be very careful not to become a shaft snob the fact is on any given day it will change dramatically I have tested cheap shafts and they blow away expensive shafts on a given day. Please beware the expensive shafts are 20$ cheap are 10$ it’s ridiculous what is going on
Take the pink off, and your distance will improve.😂
Hzdrus showed better online performance