The fact Kenobi cut himself out of The Force while in exile may explain his inability to communicate with Qui-gon Jin. His Jedi abilities were clearly affected by that period and took a while to restore (some) of his old capabilities.
You sense people throught the force, and he has dark Jedis looking for him. Yoda doesnt have to cut himself off since Dagobah is so infused witht he darkside it masked him.
@@TheJmlew11 when you have dark side users searching for jedi across the galaxy at that time, you cut your connection off to survive, like what cal kestis did in fallen order.
I have a feeling by the end of this season of Kenobi we will have a moment where Obi-wan sees the importance of finishing his training and remaining attuned to the Force as it will be needed one day.
I think perhaps the Inquisitiors may be the reason for that. They are Force sensitive and well versed in the Jedi. In order to stay near Luke, he'd need to make himself as difficult as possible to find. This means abandoning his Jedi principles and cutting himself off.
I like this explanation. I always found the argument "QGJ was too weak of a Jedi to appear" as inadequate, since now being "one with the force" should give QGJ all the ability now after death. Once a Jedi knew how to preserve their identity during the dying process, communing with them had more to do with the abilities of the living receiver, not the ghost.
I think Qui Gon Jinn is observing how Obi Wan is surviving in a Dangerous world where the Empire is in control. Especially since Obi-Wan has to protect Leia before He confronts Vader for the Last time. Hopefully, we'll get to see Qui Gon Jinn communicate with Obi Wan.
@@trexce5164 Hang on, Star Wars is not Ruined!!! You're not seeing the bigger picture. You and every other Star Wars fan have hate for Reva but I don't. Let's not hate the Obi Wan Kenobi series, yet!!!
@@beentheredonethat5908 Did they? I must have missed it. I believe based on how “slow” some of it is. I love the show but i hope we see more than a couple more episodes.
@@DEADEYESSS That’s fair. It seems like the pacing is leaving room for more than 6 episodes/ one season. Maybe the surprise will be more than 6 episodes in season one ?
I feel like the reason obiwan can't speak or hear with quigon is because obiwan is afraid to face him. He failed not only anakin, he failed quigon. He is afraid that quigon will yell at him for failing him. I think we will hear quigon at the end of the series as obiwan is finally at peace with his failures or is beginning his path to be at peace with his failures
Could it also be the reversed as well. Quigon is ashamed to appear in front of Obiwan because he was wrong about training the boy, Anikan. He refused to heed the warning of the council that ultimately led to the downfall of the Jedi
@@ascendantP technically the fall of the order was not by anakin Palpatine had already put that in place if anakin hadn't been there he probably would have just gone to the next powerful padwan probably that and that anakin is Palpatines son you could argue that anakin brought about the fall of the sith empire by having luke and leia as that was not part of Palpatines plan
Honestly I know he can't do it but it would be very nice if qui gon's ghost gave Obi-Wan a hug like he needs it like could probably never happen but idk petition to get Obi-Wan a hug
We all have to admit that Qui-Gon Jinn was one of the most amazing & wisest Jedi to have ever lived! If it haven’t been for him Yoda or Obi-Wan would’ve been able to retain their consciousness that have time & time again saved the galaxy
@@knickemup5117 we’re talking about prime maul, eager to please sidious, no fatigue Only excuse you can give for his defeat the first time to Obi was due to slight fatigue against Qui and letting his guard down from being overly cocky against padawan Obi
(contrary argument) He picked up a slave kid, abandoned his mom (inflicting huge guilt issues on Anakin). The council said don't train him, he trained him anyway and now everybody is dead. LoL brilliant mind.
I’m glad you also talked about the force ghosts in the OT. That was something I started thinking about at the beginning of your video and it explained it great!
He would’ve been in episode 3 talking to Yoda when bail comes in and tells him that obi wan’s made contact on Polis Massa, but he had a motorbike accident so couldn’t film
Obi-Wan held back an entire ocean keeping it from flooding the hallway. How is that barely starting to connect with the force? Seems like something a fully connected force user could do
It takes training to become a Force Ghost... I still have the issue how Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader) and General Leia became Force Ghosts when they weren't seen medatating and training for when they pass. Makes it seem everyone becomes a Force Ghost by default.
@@digsy_1982 remember that to the Jedi especially one like Jinn, death is a natural progression and the will of the force. Jinn is ok with dying if it's part of the force. The sith (or dark side users) see their physical life as the most important thing. (look at plagueis and palpatine trying to learn immortality) they will use their hate and powers to keep them alive like Maul for example.
Liam said he wants to come back to Star Wars. I think they’re just building up to it; forgetting that, the series is taking place 10 years after ROTS so there’s really no need to build up to it lol
Neeson said that he’d love to reprise as Qui-Gon and still loves the character. He also stated that he’d only reprise if there was a cinematic debut, on the big-screen. 🎟
It's because they couldn't get Liam Neeson to do it. What will probably happen is they use an older audio in the last moment of the series where he will call out "Obi-wan" and that's it..
Wait Qui Gon has a modern view of the force? I totally thought it was the other way around, I thought he had the classic view of the force and that the jedi order had strayed from the path.
Brother, you must read everything there is on this and be pretty intuitive. I love your videos. I was wondering about this and you explained it way better than I thought anybody could. Thank you!
I think that when you look how pittyfully dejected and powerless Obi-wan looked in episodes 1 thru 3 it appears obvious he has cut himself off from the force to protect Luke at all cost. This in itself would mean he has not participated in the training as yet. Episode 4 and more so in 5 he seems to be regaining his powers.
I cried when Qui gon Jin in the clone wars. I wish he could have appeared earlier in the series of Obi Wan. His life and death had such an impact on Obi Wan and Anakin.
Question how was Qui-gon able to become a force ghost on Tatooine? His training in becoming a force ghost was incomplete. Is Tatooine a planet with enough connection to the force to become a force ghost?
After cutting himself off from the Force for 10 years, Obi-Wan is basically getting back into the swing of things. When body builders get seriously injured and have to go through months of recovery, they don't immediately start lifting the same weight they were before, you need to build up your strength again. By episode 4, Obi-Wan is already doing much better with his Force abilities; using the same trick to distract a couple of stormtroopers the same way he does in A New Hope, deflecting several shots of blaster fire, and using the Force to hold back basically the whole ocean from breaking through a glass window.
The way I am viewing the Obi-Wan series is as his trials to become a Force Ghost. There are a lot of similarities between this series and the training Yoda went through.
He's refusing to speak to Obi-Wan because bad plotting.... and lazy writing... and Kathleen Kennedy. Like Luke at the end of TFA, Qui-Gon will probably reveal himself in the last scene of the last episode. Putting that fat worm on the hook for season 2 bait and switch. This crap is so predictable.
Does Yoda even effect the living world in TLJ by igniting the tree Luke has the Jedi text..... "Missed you I have young Skywalker", when Luke reconnects with the force it allows him to see Yoda again...
Because Disney doesn’t care nor understand anything about Star Wars. The writer for the show admitted to not seeing revenge of the sith and to not knowing that anakin was darth vader. Which also means they never paid attention to return of the jedi
Looks like he missed a detail in ROTS and was swiftly corrected by LF. No harm, no foul. For anyone wondering this guy is blowing smoke. The writer HAD seen ROTS and KNEW Anakin was Darth Vader. The issue was he didn't know that Obi-Wan knew that Anakin had become Vader. So this guys comment is blown way out of proportion. If Disney didn't care they wouldn't have corrected him.
In Legends, Obi-wan contacted Anakin at the instant of his death and guided his spirit on how to retain his individuality - he had to learn quickly before he became one with the force. There is no canon explanation so far.
Qui-Gon Jin preaching the ways of the living Force over the cosmic Force suggest that he focused on learning more about the living Force and that it might have been more relevant to living beings then the cosmic Force. The Jedi Council encouraged and even forcefully pushed the ideas of the cosmic Force be focused on and that in my opinion it's one of the reasons why they were so detached from what was going on under their noses. I think that's why they couldn't see through the growing power of the dark side. If Qui-Gon had survived the events of Naboo he might have sensed what was happening within the Republic that led to the Clone Wars. I don't think he would have joined Dooku though.
Would it not be Obi on Tatooine, initially not doing the training under Yoda? as Yoda instructs Obi that taining he has for him to do while watching over Luke? After Obi gets more "intune" with the force it will then swap over to Qui-Gon to complete this training/ability?
I think that is a good physical explanation of why they don't speak. I also think Qui-Gon is also no speaking because this is a pain and learning experience that Obi-Wan has to go through and figure out by himself.
Sorry if this has been mentioned, and I missed it? On Tatooine we don’t hear any voice connections to force ghosts, all we hear are the voices of the sands? I think, Tatooine is a planet where connecting off world, Is in impossible, one of the reasons they went there, just a thought
I think in the last episode of kenobi, Qui gon should tell obi wan to go to dagobah to complete the same training he had master yoda do in order to learn the force ghost ability. It would also be a good way to end season 1 and lead into season 2 of the show.
We have heard palpatine thoughts and opinions on Jedi masters such as Yoda, Windu and Obi Wan, but not so much on Qui Gon. I’d be interested to know his thoughts as Qui Gon was heavy influenced by his master Dooku, and didn’t follow, broke the rules more so, yet did venture or fall anywhere close to the dark side. So if Qui Gon had not been killed his influence on future of the Jedi not just Anakin would have been an interesting story and topic and one which I think Palaptine would have a different view point of compared to other Jedi Masters - this could be a topic to discuss and explore further
Also factor in that Obi-Wan in his younger years was not the most force powerful Jedi. His strength came from his training and practice. After going so long without training and practice his force connection would be suffering.
I think the reason why obi can’t hear qui Jon is because obi disconnect him self from the force due to him having PTSD for failing an believing he kill his friend/brother and now knowing anakin lived and became Darth Vader cause to much pain at this point I’m still shock how he never join the dark side. Once obi is reconnected to the force he could hear his former master.
What has never been satisfactorily explained is how Anakin, with no training, was able to appear as a force ghost at the end of the 6th movie. This was Darth Vader! And yet he appears next to Yoda and Obi-Wan
You see Anakin didnt die on the second death star is was just unconscious. During his comma Obi Wan Yoda and QuiGon were teaching him how to be a force ghost. Then Luke set him on fire cooking him in his suit. Anakin died horrible being cooked by his own son.
If he has seen the show that could explain the reason....dude literally tried smuggled a small child under a comically big coat thru a honests nest of storm troopers like he was bugs bunny.
Disney just can't NOT break G-Canon! In Revenge Of The Sith, Yoda says to Obi-Wan that "an old friend has learned the path to immortality. One who has returned from the netherworld of the Force. Your old master." Obi-Wan responds with a surprised response: "Qui-Gon!"
Obi-wan, after failing the Jedi, his padawan, and indirectly contributed to the rise in power of Sidious can be heavy baggage for just one man. Aside from cutting himself out of the Force as a precaution so that Vader wouldn't sense him, the prolonged absence from the this, and also the guilt and resentments he may have from what happened in the past 10 years could be influencing his communication with Qui Gon. I feel like by the end of the series, Obi Wan manages to have some sort of "closure" with everything that's happened (probably accepting that Anakin is truly gone after a final fight) would lead to him getting more progress in communicating with his old master, as well as laying the ground work for becoming ultimately a force ghost by episode 4.
I'm surprised Yodas's arrogance allowed him to be taught anything by Qui-Gon. Especially since he was so fond of telling everybody else ''Much to learn you still have''
Yoda was close to 1000 years old when he died lol qui gon was 60 when he died let me be clear when I say qui gon taught him one useful thing how to be a force ghost lol
Yoda is the villain of Star Wars. Homie be telling people to let go of death, yet he has the fullest form as a force ghost due to being the only one to complete the training. He probably also knows the secret to healing that Rey does and kept this from Anakin. He literally laughs and cackles more than Jar Jar in OT. He is the puppet master.
If I'm Quigon what do I say to Obi Wan? With his dying breath he made Obi Wan _promise_ to do something that would ultimately lead to entire worlds being destroyed, not to mention the Jedi Order and Obi Wan's personal life. Obi Wan fulfilled that promise without contributing to Anakin's downfall in any way other than being too "parental" For thanks he gets to have people like Owen Lars point out his failures. Quigon could not, _would not_ take no for an answer with regards to training the boy, to the point that Obi Wan apologized to _him_ for being so vocal about it Hence Quigon is either the greatest prescient Jedi of all time able see the long game all the way up to the destruction of *Death Star 3* or he was _dead wrong_ and should be very ashamed to show his face to a Jedi more loyal than he. If I'm writing? The final scene is Obi Wan contacting Yoda on Dagobah and Yoda explaining to him why Quigon won't be coming after all....
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The fact Kenobi cut himself out of The Force while in exile may explain his inability to communicate with Qui-gon Jin. His Jedi abilities were clearly affected by that period and took a while to restore (some) of his old capabilities.
Why would he cut himself off from the force? Wouldn’t that be counterintuitive to what he is doing?
@@TheJmlew11 Perhaps he was worried that if he connected to the Force the Emperor would locate him.
You sense people throught the force, and he has dark Jedis looking for him. Yoda doesnt have to cut himself off since Dagobah is so infused witht he darkside it masked him.
That’s exactly whAt I’ve been thinking.
@@TheJmlew11 when you have dark side users searching for jedi across the galaxy at that time, you cut your connection off to survive, like what cal kestis did in fallen order.
I have a feeling by the end of this season of Kenobi we will have a moment where Obi-wan sees the importance of finishing his training and remaining attuned to the Force as it will be needed one day.
Spoilers watch the original movies.
Yoda in RotS: teach you how to commune with your former master (in 10+ years once you’ve gone through your mid-life crisis), I will
Obi-Wan just needs to say "Hello there"
Simple for me, kenobi is simply not at peace and unable to balance himself correctly to tune into qui-gons words
Yoda : "during your solitude on Tatooine, training I have for you"
Obi Wan: "ok master, I am going to cut myself from the Force..."
I think perhaps the Inquisitiors may be the reason for that. They are Force sensitive and well versed in the Jedi. In order to stay near Luke, he'd need to make himself as difficult as possible to find. This means abandoning his Jedi principles and cutting himself off.
I like this explanation. I always found the argument "QGJ was too weak of a Jedi to appear" as inadequate, since now being "one with the force" should give QGJ all the ability now after death. Once a Jedi knew how to preserve their identity during the dying process, communing with them had more to do with the abilities of the living receiver, not the ghost.
I think Qui Gon Jinn is observing how Obi Wan is surviving in a Dangerous world where the Empire is in control. Especially since Obi-Wan has to protect Leia before He confronts Vader for the Last time. Hopefully, we'll get to see Qui Gon Jinn communicate with Obi Wan.
Or Disney just don’t care, and Liam Neeson doesn’t want anything to do with the now ruined franchise.
@@trexce5164 Hang on, Star Wars is not Ruined!!! You're not seeing the bigger picture. You and every other Star Wars fan have hate for Reva but I don't. Let's not hate the Obi Wan Kenobi series, yet!!!
@@UltimateSpider1385 You're a bit late on that. Disney only dug themselves a grave after the Sequel Trilogy.
@@99thJediWarrior am I the only person in the world who doesn't hate Disney despite the mistakes they've made.
@@UltimateSpider1385 In Disney's case, it was no mistake. It was that idiot Kathleen Kennedy who messed up Star Wars.
I wonder if the finale of obi-wan will reveal a surprise second season. Seems like they have a lot to fit in just two more episodes.
I mean, if that happened, the first season, really nothing would have happened in it. At least not yet.
There is going to be a season two, they already said it
@@DEADEYESSS They changed the ending to allow reva to live and continue until next season.
@@beentheredonethat5908 Did they? I must have missed it. I believe based on how “slow” some of it is. I love the show but i hope we see more than a couple more episodes.
@@DEADEYESSS That’s fair. It seems like the pacing is leaving room for more than 6 episodes/ one season. Maybe the surprise will be more than 6 episodes in season one ?
Liam Neeson read the story and said nah, I can’t sell out like this
I feel like the reason obiwan can't speak or hear with quigon is because obiwan is afraid to face him. He failed not only anakin, he failed quigon. He is afraid that quigon will yell at him for failing him. I think we will hear quigon at the end of the series as obiwan is finally at peace with his failures or is beginning his path to be at peace with his failures
Could it also be the reversed as well. Quigon is ashamed to appear in front of Obiwan because he was wrong about training the boy, Anikan. He refused to heed the warning of the council that ultimately led to the downfall of the Jedi
@@ascendantP well said or, Quigons failure against Darth Maul
@@ascendantP nah if qui gon trained anakin he would not have turned
@@ascendantP technically the fall of the order was not by anakin Palpatine had already put that in place if anakin hadn't been there he probably would have just gone to the next powerful padwan probably that and that anakin is Palpatines son you could argue that anakin brought about the fall of the sith empire by having luke and leia as that was not part of Palpatines plan
If I’m scared of some one why would I call out to them.
Honestly I know he can't do it but it would be very nice if qui gon's ghost gave Obi-Wan a hug like he needs it like could probably never happen but idk petition to get Obi-Wan a hug
We all have to admit that Qui-Gon Jinn was one of the most amazing & wisest Jedi to have ever lived! If it haven’t been for him Yoda or Obi-Wan would’ve been able to retain their consciousness that have time & time again saved the galaxy
If Qui Gon was so badass why did Darth maul kick the shit out of him???
@@knickemup5117 we’re talking about prime maul, eager to please sidious, no fatigue
Only excuse you can give for his defeat the first time to Obi was due to slight fatigue against Qui and letting his guard down from being overly cocky against padawan Obi
In my opinion Qui Gon was the greatest jedi of his era.He managed to learn something new while his dupe colleagues were stuck in old ways.
He really rediscovered lost knowledge.
He really was the greatest of his era... plagueis and sidious both feared him so much that it was deemed vital to the grand plan that he die.
(contrary argument)
He picked up a slave kid, abandoned his mom (inflicting huge guilt issues on Anakin). The council said don't train him, he trained him anyway and now everybody is dead. LoL brilliant mind.
@@vicshephard9231 Yeah.I agree.I mean smth new im terms that other jedi didn't know it.Looks like not a single of them at the time.
@@leejamesmccarthy Man, he would have seen though the ploy and wouldn't have been sitting meditating like Yoda.
I’m glad you also talked about the force ghosts in the OT. That was something I started thinking about at the beginning of your video and it explained it great!
Qui-Gon Jinn: "I am not the Bestest Ever so I am not allowed to talk to Obi-Wan".
What a particular set of skills Qui-Gon has.
He would’ve been in episode 3 talking to Yoda when bail comes in and tells him that obi wan’s made contact on Polis Massa, but he had a motorbike accident so couldn’t film
I think a 1 minute scene with Q.J. is more a slap in the face then to not see him at all
Came here after watching the final episode of Obi-Wan Kenobi and reading the comments on Liam Neeson.
“You said he was the chosen one” “😬🤷🏻♂️”
I will be happy if we hear Master Qui Gon’s voice in the Obi Wan Kenobi series
"Qui-Gon is busy at the moment, please leave a message after the beep.."
Love that you used the original force ghost still from return of the jedi.
Obi-Wan held back an entire ocean keeping it from flooding the hallway. How is that barely starting to connect with the force? Seems like something a fully connected force user could do
The show is incredibly badly written.
i think it was more he held together the glass and barely at that.
It takes training to become a Force Ghost...
I still have the issue how Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader) and General Leia became Force Ghosts when they weren't seen medatating and training for when they pass.
Makes it seem everyone becomes a Force Ghost by default.
I think Qui gon is bitter that obi wan didnt use force healing on him in episode 1 lol
Retcon moment lmao.
if the grand inquisitor survived that jab in Ep 1, shouldn’t Qui-Gon survive his too? i mean the bacta tank can heal everything right?
@@digsy_1982 remember that to the Jedi especially one like Jinn, death is a natural progression and the will of the force. Jinn is ok with dying if it's part of the force. The sith (or dark side users) see their physical life as the most important thing. (look at plagueis and palpatine trying to learn immortality) they will use their hate and powers to keep them alive like Maul for example.
It’s More likely that Qui gon is bitter that Obi wan turned out to be right about Anakin being dangerous.
Obi-Wan could not talk to Qui-Gon because he has no bars on his force phone
Either because Disney doesn't care or Liam Neeson is in actuality, NOT coming back. I hope I'm proven wrong in the next two episodes, though.
Liam said he wants to come back to Star Wars. I think they’re just building up to it; forgetting that, the series is taking place 10 years after ROTS so there’s really no need to build up to it lol
Unfortunately it is the former, Disney just doesn’t care
Neeson said that he’d love to reprise as Qui-Gon and still loves the character.
He also stated that he’d only reprise if there was a cinematic debut, on the big-screen. 🎟
Liam said he doesnt do tv hes a big screen guy so unless theres a movie he said no
@@jonathantrotter8544 writer admitted to not watching revenge of the Sith and not knowing that anakin was darth vader btw
It's because they couldn't get Liam Neeson to do it. What will probably happen is they use an older audio in the last moment of the series where he will call out "Obi-wan" and that's it..
Most accurate answer 😂
Or..or..or just get CGI and a voice synthesiser, like they did with Tarkin, young luke in BOBF and Leia in TLJ and TROS.
Qui Gon was a true jedi and he'll always be my favorite
How did Anakin become a force ghost at the end of ROTJ? He was so powerful that the force priestess gave him a free pass?🤣
Wait Qui Gon has a modern view of the force? I totally thought it was the other way around, I thought he had the classic view of the force and that the jedi order had strayed from the path.
Brother, you must read everything there is on this and be pretty intuitive. I love your videos. I was wondering about this and you explained it way better than I thought anybody could. Thank you!
Guessing it’s because he is too busy trying to understand what yoda is saying
He's refusing to speak to Obi-Wan because the CGI required for him to do so is too expensive.
I think that when you look how pittyfully dejected and powerless Obi-wan looked in episodes 1 thru 3 it appears obvious he has cut himself off from the force to protect Luke at all cost. This in itself would mean he has not participated in the training as yet. Episode 4 and more so in 5 he seems to be regaining his powers.
The Mortis ark, was such a wonderful episode in the clone wars and this makes so much sense.. ❤ great work Wave
I cried when Qui gon Jin in the clone wars. I wish he could have appeared earlier in the series of Obi Wan. His life and death had such an impact on Obi Wan and Anakin.
Question how was Qui-gon able to become a force ghost on Tatooine? His training in becoming a force ghost was incomplete. Is Tatooine a planet with enough connection to the force to become a force ghost?
I think this is less of a plot hole than obi wan straight up saving Leah and her hearing his full name
Cause Obi Wan cut himself off the force, Qui-Gon can't reach him that way. Stupid Obi smh..
Yoda couldn’t contact Luke because he had cut himself off from the force. It’s the same in this situation
I wish they would make a mini series talking about Qui Gon Jinn and his origin story.
They “are” somewhat doing that in tales of the jedi
R2-D2 and Qui-Gon Jinn saved everbody
Qui Gon needs his own series to explain his story.
I love the concept art of anakins ghost and how it shifted from him to Vader since he had attachments to both sides. That would be so cool to see
Because it’s not the high ground way
After cutting himself off from the Force for 10 years, Obi-Wan is basically getting back into the swing of things. When body builders get seriously injured and have to go through months of recovery, they don't immediately start lifting the same weight they were before, you need to build up your strength again. By episode 4, Obi-Wan is already doing much better with his Force abilities; using the same trick to distract a couple of stormtroopers the same way he does in A New Hope, deflecting several shots of blaster fire, and using the Force to hold back basically the whole ocean from breaking through a glass window.
How much can Kenobi bench press bro?
Qui-Gon despises the show too much to call.
He isn’t refusing to talk to Ben, bens connection to the force has diminished so much he lacks the connection to speak to his master.
Huh- so you got one of those "winner" posts too- using the channel's logo is a step up in the game, huh?
Amazing video, fantastic job.
I think he'll make an appearance in the last episode of the force ghost
Use of the Force and various Force techniques like speaking to Force ghosts requires concentration and Obi-Wan is clearly unbalanced mentally.
It’s interesting seeing Mickey revive some concepts from the extended universe, *cough* legends stuff.
The way I am viewing the Obi-Wan series is as his trials to become a Force Ghost. There are a lot of similarities between this series and the training Yoda went through.
He's refusing to speak to Obi-Wan because bad plotting.... and lazy writing... and Kathleen Kennedy. Like Luke at the end of TFA, Qui-Gon will probably reveal himself in the last scene of the last episode. Putting that fat worm on the hook for season 2 bait and switch. This crap is so predictable.
A man after my own heart.
Homie can barely move rocks, talking to the dead is probably a bit outside of his pay grade currently
Does Yoda even effect the living world in TLJ by igniting the tree Luke has the Jedi text.....
"Missed you I have young Skywalker", when Luke reconnects with the force it allows him to see Yoda again...
Love the idea…but how do you explain anakin? He was able to do this with no training
I think it was because Anakin was born of the Force so becoming one with it should come naturally to him as he was a part of it and it was all of him.
He is literally made off the force so yeah
Because the writer didn’t watch any prequel content and Disney refuse to acknowledge the prequels apart from Dave and John
Because Disney doesn’t care nor understand anything about Star Wars. The writer for the show admitted to not seeing revenge of the sith and to not knowing that anakin was darth vader. Which also means they never paid attention to return of the jedi
Source?
Looks like he missed a detail in ROTS and was swiftly corrected by LF. No harm, no foul.
For anyone wondering this guy is blowing smoke. The writer HAD seen ROTS and KNEW Anakin was Darth Vader. The issue was he didn't know that Obi-Wan knew that Anakin had become Vader.
So this guys comment is blown way out of proportion.
If Disney didn't care they wouldn't have corrected him.
So riddle me this, Who trained Anikin? He shows up as a force ghost at the end of RotJ.
In Legends, Obi-wan contacted Anakin at the instant of his death and guided his spirit on how to retain his individuality - he had to learn quickly before he became one with the force. There is no canon explanation so far.
@@tracymaxwell11 riggghhhhhhtttttt.
Qui-Gon Jin preaching the ways of the living Force over the cosmic Force suggest that he focused on learning more about the living Force and that it might have been more relevant to living beings then the cosmic Force. The Jedi Council encouraged and even forcefully pushed the ideas of the cosmic Force be focused on and that in my opinion it's one of the reasons why they were so detached from what was going on under their noses. I think that's why they couldn't see through the growing power of the dark side. If Qui-Gon had survived the events of Naboo he might have sensed what was happening within the Republic that led to the Clone Wars. I don't think he would have joined Dooku though.
I hope to God that they bring qui-gan for next season for sure 🙏🙏🙏🤍🕊
Would it not be Obi on Tatooine, initially not doing the training under Yoda? as Yoda instructs Obi that taining he has for him to do while watching over Luke? After Obi gets more "intune" with the force it will then swap over to Qui-Gon to complete this training/ability?
I think that is a good physical explanation of why they don't speak. I also think Qui-Gon is also no speaking because this is a pain and learning experience that Obi-Wan has to go through and figure out by himself.
Sorry if this has been mentioned, and I missed it? On Tatooine we don’t hear any voice connections to force ghosts, all we hear are the voices of the sands? I think, Tatooine is a planet where connecting off world, Is in impossible, one of the reasons they went there, just a thought
That's easy, the didn't want to pay Liam enough for a cameo
I know anything is motivations for building his castle on mustafar but come to think of it why didn't he build it on mortis?
>”why is quigon refusing to speak”
>”because he cant”
😂🤣🤣😂
I think in the last episode of kenobi, Qui gon should tell obi wan to go to dagobah to complete the same training he had master yoda do in order to learn the force ghost ability. It would also be a good way to end season 1 and lead into season 2 of the show.
Kenobi being so weak after only 10 yrs is laudable.
We have heard palpatine thoughts and opinions on Jedi masters such as Yoda, Windu and Obi Wan, but not so much on Qui Gon. I’d be interested to know his thoughts as Qui Gon was heavy influenced by his master Dooku, and didn’t follow, broke the rules more so, yet did venture or fall anywhere close to the dark side. So if Qui Gon had not been killed his influence on future of the Jedi not just Anakin would have been an interesting story and topic and one which I think Palaptine would have a different view point of compared to other Jedi Masters - this could be a topic to discuss and explore further
He probably left the ‘mortal’ world to the ‘next world’
Also factor in that Obi-Wan in his younger years was not the most force powerful Jedi. His strength came from his training and practice. After going so long without training and practice his force connection would be suffering.
I think the reason why obi can’t hear qui Jon is because obi disconnect him self from the force due to him having PTSD for failing an believing he kill his friend/brother and now knowing anakin lived and became Darth Vader cause to much pain at this point I’m still shock how he never join the dark side. Once obi is reconnected to the force he could hear his former master.
I still want to know why Anakin is a force ghost in ROTJ
I believe he not responding because Kenobi stop using the force but now since he’s back using it eventually he will respond
What has never been satisfactorily explained is how Anakin, with no training, was able to appear as a force ghost at the end of the 6th movie. This was Darth Vader! And yet he appears next to Yoda and Obi-Wan
You see Anakin didnt die on the second death star is was just unconscious. During his comma Obi Wan Yoda and QuiGon were teaching him how to be a force ghost. Then Luke set him on fire cooking him in his suit. Anakin died horrible being cooked by his own son.
@@IAMLH 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 think I'd have preferred death at Palpatine's hands. He would've been kinder!🤣🤣
It's probably because Obi-Wan told him to go haunt Yoda instead.
disney + could only afford liam nesson to voice a couple of lines
Because Qui-Con doesn’t want to be associated with that garbage 👍
Ah yes, the wisdom of Master Jinn.
Neeson said he'd love to act Qui Gon again but only on film, not tv.
There’s two people I’m expecting to see that haven’t showed up yet and that’s Liam Neeson and Darth Maul
I have messaged and texted the number as instructed but have heard nothing...
He’s still mad about how Anakin turned out🤣
Wait-So only those strong in the force can see force ghosts? I never knew that.
If he has seen the show that could explain the reason....dude literally tried smuggled a small child under a comically big coat thru a honests nest of storm troopers like he was bugs bunny.
Its punishment. He knows what he did. 😂
Disney just can't NOT break G-Canon! In Revenge Of The Sith, Yoda says to Obi-Wan that "an old friend has learned the path to immortality. One who has returned from the netherworld of the Force. Your old master." Obi-Wan responds with a surprised response: "Qui-Gon!"
He could be upset that he gave him his word to take Anakin as his apprentice that would later kill almost all the Jedi’s.
Didn't they use Liam voice for the animated shows couldn't they do that again here ??
Because they can't afford Liam Neeson lmfao.
Obi-wan, after failing the Jedi, his padawan, and indirectly contributed to the rise in power of Sidious can be heavy baggage for just one man. Aside from cutting himself out of the Force as a precaution so that Vader wouldn't sense him, the prolonged absence from the this, and also the guilt and resentments he may have from what happened in the past 10 years could be influencing his communication with Qui Gon. I feel like by the end of the series, Obi Wan manages to have some sort of "closure" with everything that's happened (probably accepting that Anakin is truly gone after a final fight) would lead to him getting more progress in communicating with his old master, as well as laying the ground work for becoming ultimately a force ghost by episode 4.
I'm surprised Yodas's arrogance allowed him to be taught anything by Qui-Gon. Especially since he was so fond of telling everybody else ''Much to learn you still have''
Yoda was close to 1000 years old when he died lol qui gon was 60 when he died let me be clear when I say qui gon taught him one useful thing how to be a force ghost lol
Maybe because he read the script 🤔
Yoda is the villain of Star Wars. Homie be telling people to let go of death, yet he has the fullest form as a force ghost due to being the only one to complete the training. He probably also knows the secret to healing that Rey does and kept this from Anakin. He literally laughs and cackles more than Jar Jar in OT. He is the puppet master.
If I'm Quigon what do I say to Obi Wan?
With his dying breath he made Obi Wan _promise_ to do something that would ultimately lead to entire worlds being destroyed, not to mention the Jedi Order and Obi Wan's personal life.
Obi Wan fulfilled that promise without contributing to Anakin's downfall in any way other than being too "parental"
For thanks he gets to have people like Owen Lars point out his failures.
Quigon could not, _would not_ take no for an answer with regards to training the boy, to the point that Obi Wan apologized to _him_ for being so vocal about it Hence Quigon is either the greatest prescient Jedi of all time able see the long game all the way up to the destruction of *Death Star 3* or he was _dead wrong_ and should be very ashamed to show his face to a Jedi more loyal than he.
If I'm writing? The final scene is Obi Wan contacting Yoda on Dagobah and Yoda explaining to him why Quigon won't be coming after all....
Death Star 3???? You need to stop smoking that force weed.