it's not only 4 tracks. if you click the session mode button, you can select/arm tracks with the sequencer buttons. tbh I think it's great as a controller. lots of button combinations with [shift] + [loop] or holding arm button + volume wheel is track volume for example. there is a lot packed in to it, you just need to dig a little. you can truncate loops, change loop lengths, (in Bar + 16th steps, ). I really like the big jog wheel to quickly cycle through devices on a track. Coming from a Push 1 , this does feel like a mini push to me
Yes, you're wrong - track selector button choose on of FIRST four tracks that you have selected, but you can move the selection, like in Push or any other grid controller.
I have Push and I’m happy with Move since yesterday. It’s a bummer influencers only have shallow to surface look to what breakthrough device can do. Tired of hearing “only 4track” misleading statements, ABBA and Kraftwerk would be offended 😜 Without mentioning how cool use flow is with Capture/Undo use, never need even press record.
@@JAdeWii_ Neat indeed! 😁 Tried Move with Ableton first time today. BTW, it's Shift and +/- to go up/down for the next four tracks in Live, so it controls more than 4. ....... In fact, I like it even more than Push3. It's smaller, sits tilted right above computer keyboard, before synth........ Move's 8 knobs are closer and easier to reach than on Push (yes, I'm very lazzzy). Undo button is just right there. .......... And sequencer with small buttons is neaaat and handy to use! ....... can't finish typing ..... both Push and Move work so nicely together 🤩
@@phatplates Totally! LOL I tried em all from kb controllers to small to large to huge grooveboxes (Force, BeatstepPro, Machine Micro, MC-101, CircuitTracks, Maschine+, KeystepPro, Polyends, VerseLab, TE KOII, OP-1field, TE Medieval) Only keep OP-Z from day one of its release till now. Move feels home both stadalone and as a controller on studio desk taking no space. Probably best use of spaca per sq inch. Only thinking now why it took it so fkn long for Ableton 😬 ... probably to learn from everybody's mistakes
Push 3 has been in beta for a year. They don't tell you that when they sold it. I bought it as a beta hardware that lacked important features. Chances are this Move is also a beta product.
what is still beta about the push 3 at the moment? I'm curious as I'm interested in getting one. I worry the workflow isn't that easy or fast, from what I read online
Hey Jade! I got Push 3 Standalone first, then grabbed Move when it came out. Push 3 is ridiculously good. I do a lot of jamming ideas with it on the coffee table , plugged in to a pair of iLoud monitors. Why Move? Tactile, unlike my iPhone/iPad Pro. Battery power. Agreed, the speakers are nothing to write home about, but they’re there. I’m using it as my “idea box” to fill the role where my OP-Z and Seqtrak fell short. (Tracker Mini gets close, but no speaker.) There’s definitely a use case for both devices, but if you can only have one, agreed, definitely go with Push 3. In the meanwhile, sorry to hear about your injury! Heal soon. :)
You can control 7 tracks at a time in controller mode. Put it in session mode and use the odd numbered step sequencer buttons to select the track above and the even number to stop the track above. Hold the odd numbers and adjust volume to change the track volume. Left and right arrows to scroll the tracks you want to control
I'd pony up the two extra bills and get the MPC One+.. brand new. It doesn't have a built in battery. But you get a much better work environment. You can always add 3rd party batteries externally if you really want to go that route later on.
I grabbed a Push 2 a few days after Move was announced. My GAS for the Move turned into GAS for a Push 2 after watching videos on both. The Push 2 was a really decent price on the official Ableton US Reverb shop (factory refurbished). Unit arrived and is basically brand new...and $100 less than the Move!
I'd say that a Push really adds usability to Live, as well as just providing tactile control. Plus of course you can always upgrade the new Push to standalone whenever you want.
I feel like people are misunderstanding this offering. It’s meant to be able to be used as a controller if you wish but it’s meant to be an affordable stand alone tactile option to sketch Ableton ideas on the go or if you’re away from your at home set up.
This is one of the main benefit , having everything in sync is a major benefit (no need to export to a memory support or bounce tracks…) what a comfort
Sounds precisely right! This obviously isn’t a “Baby Push”. The device was specially crafted for people who don’t currently have any dedicated musicking device, hardware or software. The Move/Note playflow is a very different thing from the Push/Live workflow though there are convoluted ways to go from the former to the latter (and not vice-versa). And, yes, it might push people to move on to the Push. A very clever strategy for an incumbent. (I’m not into the Ableton ecosystem at all. I find this Move/Note strategy fascinating, though it’s not necessarily for me.)
Sold my Push 2 a while ago, mostly just use a mouse + keyboard together with a NI midi keyboard, works a lot faster. If I wanna fiddle with some loop ideas or drum stuff I use Maschine MK3, which has way nicer drumpads than any Ableton device. Don't get me wrong, Push is a really nice device but for some workflows it makes it more complex and slows down everything. I never could get used to it.
Bottom line is that the Move is an affordable Ableton Live controller/interface that happens to offer the standalone capability. It is far more portable than my Push 3 Standalone. I've been messing with the Move over the weekend and is more intuitive than my SP404mk2 and SEQTRAK were under initial use.
Well I think push 3 is more you. I mean, the move is great and there are things you can do. Whether it’s developing simpler ideas or transferring to say note for more tracks . The push 3 has obvious advantages and there’s nothing much wrong veto g excited. I look for sound modules all the time but if you kept the move, you’d still be looking to the push. And the fact you can upgrade to standalone if you want, is a big bonus but the fact you can transfer from note to suite means you do t have to have move.
feel ya on the not getting sidetracked with small gadgets kinda stuff hahah, i've only acquired like 2 pieces of gear in the past 5 years lol but i don't find myself really needing much for compositions
As a longtime Ableton user, I admit I was hooked by the initial announcement of the Move, but ended up not buying it. Been appreciating your videos, they have helped me decide. I personally don’t mind the 4 track limitation, but for my workflow, the Move isn’t something I need. May get a used Push someday.
You are gonna love the push. I still have the Push 2. Eventually I will get the Push 3 standalone but its not warranted for now (the improvements aren't necessary) I know someone who is still rocking a Push 1. Just having a controller for your DAW should be sreamlined IMO (would love to see a controller designed for Cubase) Hope your hand heals up quickly!!!
To me it replaces SP because it’s a pain to export stems. And really koala is much easier and versatile than SP. So I don’t use my sp for much more than effects sometimes and an audio interface. With move and note it replaces SP and Koala because I can instantly export to ableton and finish the track. Plus it actually has decent synths to add to my sampling and Eurorack workflow. Push is kind of a daw in a box and I’m just not interested in that personally even though it definitely is dope! So yeah. To each their own though. I’m glad you’re figuring out what works best for you! 😎👍
Have you checked out the Akai's APC 64? I got one at $200 and its probably not like a Push but it serves a different purpose for me ive been using it for my modular synths and to sequence older drum machines to get that 90's 2000'2 feel.
Same here. Return requested. I tried to like it also. Some things it does really well. It kind of feels unfinished somehow. I don’t care what anyone says - the 4 track limit is a workflow killer. I work very fast and the ideas come fast. Then I hit a hardware limitation wall. I just feel I’m wasting my time when I should be sat with push and ableton on my MacBook making some proper music.
@@Marco-ek8wu Since I wrote that I put mine in the box and the next day I took it out again after watching a video on youtube. I'm going to wait until the last week of the return to make a decision. But what you said is true. Laptop and Push you already have everything. I also flow very well with just that, the truth is that I look for alternatives to avoid the real challenge of facing myself. greetings
@@abletonflow4673 haha it’s been in and out of the box all week. Even had another play tonight whilst waiting for my return notice. I’ve been having some success lately with some of my tracks and move is a real distraction. I’m not going to get anything done whilst messing around with it. Although I do like the idea of having a little push controller whilst away at weekends and a couch drum machine. First world problems hey.
@@Marco-ek8wu Hahaha, you could say yes. I guess in our case it's not the 450 dollars that's the problem. It's the time. Once a professional producer and DJ came to our house. Nothing like that stops him. The only toy he has is a midi keyboard. The guy makes his time worth it. While I keep going around with my toys. I send you my regards and I hope you make the best decision.
I’m on the fence… I have the app but I don’t like it (or more specifically the touch interface).. I’m new to Ableton and could do with a controller for it but Novation Key mk4’s have dropped… I have the KO2 which is gash really so I could flip it if it had any real secondhand value (SH prices are low).. I have the SP and an MC 101 for when I travel… I haven’t seen any videos of the Move being used with Ableton? So I have no idea how good it is for that job?
its useful but its no push. I feel the best thing with ableton is learning the shortcuts, not using it to compose to bringing ideas into it later. My travel boo is the KO2, but I think the move is great. Seeing you already have an SP and MC101 just try to think about what it is you're really missing.
Um... Portability! I have a Push 3. It is great, but it is HEAVY and BIG. I will NEVER bring my Push for travel. Move, on an airplane, bus, train, or car or hotel room: 100%. Push, 0%.
It's really interesting that your workflow is clearly different than mine, and your reasons for not digging this aren't really relevant to my wants from a device like this. I don't like sitting in front of the computer when making music, and I like simple live performances with different grooveboxes, so it's definetly a device for me. I think it's good to just go with the flow that works for you, like you said, you wanna finish tracks not just fiddle around with another incomplete tool.
Wait, the whole point of this one is the tight integration with Ableton Live, so what did you mean at the end of the video with this being too cumbersome for that? It's literally a 2 second sync using Ableton Cloud. Also, you're wrong about controller mode, tracks are then stacked in columns just like on the Push and you see 7 tracks at a time (column 8 is reserved for master/scene launch). Just seems a bit rushed to record a video with your opinions before at least skimming the short manual. Totally get the excitement about cutting down the video production processes though.
CEOs os audio companies must love that “limitations leads to creativity” BS talk lol. The engineer comes saying: “boss, this processor isn’t enough, it will only handle 4 tracks flawlessly”, and the boss says: “no problem, the audio community will say we did it for the creativity, go ahead”. 😂
Of course you can use more than four tracks in Controller Mode, just use the arrow buttons to move the rectangle and other tracks will be focused on Move, four at the time. You can also use Move‘s sequencer in Controller Mode to sequence any midi track in your live set.
yeah, I don't see any reason to get ableton move, looks boring, too many buttons combos etc... no actual innovation in it. There are already a lot of portable devices with many more features and more interesting features like: lofi xt, smpletrek, circuits, yamaha seqtrak is way better, polyend tracker mini is amazingly better and more fun, even an MC-101 is much better.
I understand the hate on this product, its expensive for what it is, but I dont really think the 4 track thing is a limitation when you can resample. I think that sometimes limitations makes you more creative and thats the main point with the move
@@ChrisP3000x limitations to some degree. When you have to many "resources" It can be limiting too, for me sometimes its hard to choose sounds between all the vsts that I bought over the years and having no limits makes me overthink music which can lead you to not finishing the music you are working on. Just my opinion. I'm not saying that move is great tho, I agree that 8 tracks would be the sweet spot
“Only four tracks in controller mode” sounds like something that could be fixed in an update patch. That said, I fear most of the development and update patches will be focused on it being a groovebox. Controller functionality will take a back seat..
I am glad that you feel inspired to write songs and if the Move distracts from that, you definitely should get rid of it as soon as possible! For me the Move fits right in, at the moment I feel much more inspired to make very simple music on grooveboxes than making stuff with a lot of tracks. It is true that the phone app is almost the same, but the sequencer is great and having real buttons is also very nice.
Someone apparently didn't get the memo. Not sure why you even got this device (besides the obvious GAS that's deliberately poisoning your audience, because we all love them views, don't we). If you just want to finish tracks, then this is NOT the Ableton device you want. It's a track starter, not a track finisher. How this got lost on you baffles me tbh. And of course it would always be a limited Ableton Live controller, especially compared to Push 3. Talking about unrealistic expectations, jeez.
@@minimal3734 p6 has upto 23.9 seconds per pad. i have two of them. thats over 1000 seconds sample time and sample rate changes.. the p6 will be getting used this time next year while you are convinced the move 2 is where its at because the move 1 didnt cut it. smh
ItS nOT onLY 4 traCks iF yOu pReSs a BuTTOn aND SwING tHe otHeR bUToOn to CLicK tHe oTHer buTTOn thEN uSe tHe sTePs YoU cAN ADd mooOORe. Meh. Fiddly ass tricks and work arounds do not count as a feature. Sorry.
you should definitely check out the p6 sampler it’s a battery charged little sp. its fun for making samples but it has a little Roland screen so it’s mostly button menu diving. Love the videos was really curious about the new ableton move if it would be worth it for some people❤
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Calm down yall, I said it was neat 🥸
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If you’re a sample based musician you can play 64 samples simultaneously on the Move. Considering that, the four tracks are no limitation at all.
it's not only 4 tracks. if you click the session mode button, you can select/arm tracks with the sequencer buttons. tbh I think it's great as a controller. lots of button combinations with [shift] + [loop] or holding arm button + volume wheel is track volume for example. there is a lot packed in to it, you just need to dig a little. you can truncate loops, change loop lengths, (in Bar + 16th steps, ). I really like the big jog wheel to quickly cycle through devices on a track. Coming from a Push 1 , this does feel like a mini push to me
… I can’t find any videos on the workflow using the Move and Abelton…
Yes, you're wrong - track selector button choose on of FIRST four tracks that you have selected, but you can move the selection, like in Push or any other grid controller.
I have Push and I’m happy with Move since yesterday. It’s a bummer influencers only have shallow to surface look to what breakthrough device can do. Tired of hearing “only 4track” misleading statements, ABBA and Kraftwerk would be offended 😜 Without mentioning how cool use flow is with Capture/Undo use, never need even press record.
$450 for 4 tracks isn't a value. Neither is Ableton Note.
I said it was neat lol
@@JAdeWii_ Neat indeed! 😁 Tried Move with Ableton first time today. BTW, it's Shift and +/- to go up/down for the next four tracks in Live, so it controls more than 4. ....... In fact, I like it even more than Push3. It's smaller, sits tilted right above computer keyboard, before synth........ Move's 8 knobs are closer and easier to reach than on Push (yes, I'm very lazzzy). Undo button is just right there. .......... And sequencer with small buttons is neaaat and handy to use!
....... can't finish typing ..... both Push and Move work so nicely together 🤩
Breakthrough? 😂😂😂
@@phatplates Totally! LOL I tried em all from kb controllers to small to large to huge grooveboxes (Force, BeatstepPro, Machine Micro, MC-101, CircuitTracks, Maschine+, KeystepPro, Polyends, VerseLab, TE KOII, OP-1field, TE Medieval) Only keep OP-Z from day one of its release till now. Move feels home both stadalone and as a controller on studio desk taking no space. Probably best use of spaca per sq inch. Only thinking now why it took it so fkn long for Ableton 😬 ... probably to learn from everybody's mistakes
Push 3 has been in beta for a year. They don't tell you that when they sold it. I bought it as a beta hardware that lacked important features. Chances are this Move is also a beta product.
They have a feature roadmap to add features over time, you are 100% correct. It's got lacking midi just like the push 3 did when it came out.
what is still beta about the push 3 at the moment? I'm curious as I'm interested in getting one. I worry the workflow isn't that easy or fast, from what I read online
Hey Jade! I got Push 3 Standalone first, then grabbed Move when it came out.
Push 3 is ridiculously good. I do a lot of jamming ideas with it on the coffee table , plugged in to a pair of iLoud monitors.
Why Move? Tactile, unlike my iPhone/iPad Pro. Battery power. Agreed, the speakers are nothing to write home about, but they’re there. I’m using it as my “idea box” to fill the role where my OP-Z and Seqtrak fell short. (Tracker Mini gets close, but no speaker.)
There’s definitely a use case for both devices, but if you can only have one, agreed, definitely go with Push 3.
In the meanwhile, sorry to hear about your injury! Heal soon. :)
Any new video from Jade is a good day. Hope your hand heals up!
I think they are focusing it more as a standalone groovebox (with import to Ableton) than a contrroller-first ableton workflow
I'm hoping they'll go that direction. It has a lot of potential as a standalone device.
You can control 7 tracks at a time in controller mode. Put it in session mode and use the odd numbered step sequencer buttons to select the track above and the even number to stop the track above. Hold the odd numbers and adjust volume to change the track volume. Left and right arrows to scroll the tracks you want to control
I'd pony up the two extra bills and get the MPC One+.. brand new. It doesn't have a built in battery. But you get a much better work environment. You can always add 3rd party batteries externally if you really want to go that route later on.
It's very reminiscent of a Novation Circuit Tracks/Rythm, but with a tiny screen.
It’d be dope to see you make something with the gear you have. From start to finish. Just your music creation process.
I grabbed a Push 2 a few days after Move was announced. My GAS for the Move turned into GAS for a Push 2 after watching videos on both. The Push 2 was a really decent price on the official Ableton US Reverb shop (factory refurbished). Unit arrived and is basically brand new...and $100 less than the Move!
Set bar amount by holding the first step (bar) and the last step (bar)
I'd say that a Push really adds usability to Live, as well as just providing tactile control. Plus of course you can always upgrade the new Push to standalone whenever you want.
I feel like people are misunderstanding this offering. It’s meant to be able to be used as a controller if you wish but it’s meant to be an affordable stand alone tactile option to sketch Ableton ideas on the go or if you’re away from your at home set up.
It also has link onboard… as i understand it syncs to IOS devices wireless.
It’s a instrument and a interface.
I see 3 different ways to use it.
This is one of the main benefit , having everything in sync is a major benefit (no need to export to a memory support or bounce tracks…) what a comfort
Appreciate the *honest* commentary. Thank you.
Sounds precisely right!
This obviously isn’t a “Baby Push”.
The device was specially crafted for people who don’t currently have any dedicated musicking device, hardware or software. The Move/Note playflow is a very different thing from the Push/Live workflow though there are convoluted ways to go from the former to the latter (and not vice-versa).
And, yes, it might push people to move on to the Push. A very clever strategy for an incumbent.
(I’m not into the Ableton ecosystem at all. I find this Move/Note strategy fascinating, though it’s not necessarily for me.)
"I think like an SP update..." "...like a smaller SP...."
Ma'am, respectfully, the P-6 is ballin'
Sold my Push 2 a while ago, mostly just use a mouse + keyboard together with a NI midi keyboard, works a lot faster. If I wanna fiddle with some loop ideas or drum stuff I use Maschine MK3, which has way nicer drumpads than any Ableton device. Don't get me wrong, Push is a really nice device but for some workflows it makes it more complex and slows down everything. I never could get used to it.
Thank you for a honest opinion.
Bottom line is that the Move is an affordable Ableton Live controller/interface that happens to offer the standalone capability. It is far more portable than my Push 3 Standalone. I've been messing with the Move over the weekend and is more intuitive than my SP404mk2 and SEQTRAK were under initial use.
Well I think push 3 is more you. I mean, the move is great and there are things you can do. Whether it’s developing simpler ideas or transferring to say note for more tracks
. The push 3 has obvious advantages and there’s nothing much wrong veto g excited. I look for sound modules all the time but if you kept the move, you’d still be looking to the push.
And the fact you can upgrade to standalone if you want, is a big bonus but the fact you can transfer from note to suite means you do t have to have move.
feel ya on the not getting sidetracked with small gadgets kinda stuff hahah, i've only acquired like 2 pieces of gear in the past 5 years lol but i don't find myself really needing much for compositions
I've been having a blast w/ mine but it really is just a luxury toy. With my push 3 SA and Live 2 on the way, I'm not sure I'm keeping this.
Right, like the question people should really be asking is “is this a luxury I can’t afford?” Lol Congrats on the Live 2
It’s a sketchpad. It is not designed to be a something you complete projects on.
Nothing like the push 3 tbh
@@JAdeWii_ thanks fam! Keep up the good work.
Well for one you were kind of hyping this up for yourself before even knowing what it was. Yep that's about it.
64 is more than 32:)
Sounds like a case of rtfm :)
rotten tomatoes fo mummies
As a longtime Ableton user, I admit I was hooked by the initial announcement of the Move, but ended up not buying it. Been appreciating your videos, they have helped me decide. I personally don’t mind the 4 track limitation, but for my workflow, the Move isn’t something I need. May get a used Push someday.
You are gonna love the push. I still have the Push 2. Eventually I will get the Push 3 standalone but its not warranted for now (the improvements aren't necessary) I know someone who is still rocking a Push 1. Just having a controller for your DAW should be sreamlined IMO (would love to see a controller designed for Cubase) Hope your hand heals up quickly!!!
No USB memory input, bah, humbug😁
To me it replaces SP because it’s a pain to export stems. And really koala is much easier and versatile than SP. So I don’t use my sp for much more than effects sometimes and an audio interface. With move and note it replaces SP and Koala because I can instantly export to ableton and finish the track. Plus it actually has decent synths to add to my sampling and Eurorack workflow. Push is kind of a daw in a box and I’m just not interested in that personally even though it definitely is dope! So yeah. To each their own though. I’m glad you’re figuring out what works best for you! 😎👍
this is there beginner device ima wait to see what mid tier device they drop.
Have you checked out the Akai's APC 64? I got one at $200 and its probably not like a Push but it serves a different purpose for me ive been using it for my modular synths and to sequence older drum machines to get that 90's 2000'2 feel.
I tried to like it but I didn't, it's already in its box for the return. I agree with you 100%, I'm going to keep Note.
Same here. Return requested. I tried to like it also. Some things it does really well. It kind of feels unfinished somehow. I don’t care what anyone says - the 4 track limit is a workflow killer. I work very fast and the ideas come fast. Then I hit a hardware limitation wall. I just feel I’m wasting my time when I should be sat with push and ableton on my MacBook making some proper music.
@@Marco-ek8wu Since I wrote that I put mine in the box and the next day I took it out again after watching a video on youtube. I'm going to wait until the last week of the return to make a decision. But what you said is true. Laptop and Push you already have everything. I also flow very well with just that, the truth is that I look for alternatives to avoid the real challenge of facing myself. greetings
@@abletonflow4673 haha it’s been in and out of the box all week. Even had another play tonight whilst waiting for my return notice. I’ve been having some success lately with some of my tracks and move is a real distraction. I’m not going to get anything done whilst messing around with it. Although I do like the idea of having a little push controller whilst away at weekends and a couch drum machine. First world problems hey.
@@Marco-ek8wu Hahaha, you could say yes. I guess in our case it's not the 450 dollars that's the problem. It's the time. Once a professional producer and DJ came to our house. Nothing like that stops him. The only toy he has is a midi keyboard. The guy makes his time worth it. While I keep going around with my toys. I send you my regards and I hope you make the best decision.
I said that without buying it. 😝
I’m on the fence… I have the app but I don’t like it (or more specifically the touch interface).. I’m new to Ableton and could do with a controller for it but Novation Key mk4’s have dropped… I have the KO2 which is gash really so I could flip it if it had any real secondhand value (SH prices are low).. I have the SP and an MC 101 for when I travel…
I haven’t seen any videos of the Move being used with Ableton? So I have no idea how good it is for that job?
its useful but its no push. I feel the best thing with ableton is learning the shortcuts, not using it to compose to bringing ideas into it later. My travel boo is the KO2, but I think the move is great. Seeing you already have an SP and MC101 just try to think about what it is you're really missing.
@@JAdeWii_ I just need to get over the GAS and be rational… I think the Move might be more useful to me than the KO2.
In controller mode, you can use more than 4 tracks... 4 at a time...
Um... Portability! I have a Push 3. It is great, but it is HEAVY and BIG. I will NEVER bring my Push for travel. Move, on an airplane, bus, train, or car or hotel room: 100%. Push, 0%.
finally someone real, rest of youtubers are shilling for it
That ain't really a controller for Ableton, that's a sketchpad :)
Great to see you back again
iPad and Note. Anyone into music prod who doesn’t have an iPad is nutz….
Damn. Go easy the next little while. That wound and trauma resulting from it, might take a while to process ❤️
Take care of your hand jade ! Thanks for the review
So many people are gaslit by this device. They should have called it the trigger finger 😅
I think it’s fine. Music is better without boilerplate.
It's really interesting that your workflow is clearly different than mine, and your reasons for not digging this aren't really relevant to my wants from a device like this. I don't like sitting in front of the computer when making music, and I like simple live performances with different grooveboxes, so it's definetly a device for me.
I think it's good to just go with the flow that works for you, like you said, you wanna finish tracks not just fiddle around with another incomplete tool.
What’s the process of returning it?
I rather get by far, the new Roland P-6.
Wait, the whole point of this one is the tight integration with Ableton Live, so what did you mean at the end of the video with this being too cumbersome for that? It's literally a 2 second sync using Ableton Cloud.
Also, you're wrong about controller mode, tracks are then stacked in columns just like on the Push and you see 7 tracks at a time (column 8 is reserved for master/scene launch).
Just seems a bit rushed to record a video with your opinions before at least skimming the short manual. Totally get the excitement about cutting down the video production processes though.
This thing seems to be alot like the circuit rhythm
Dumb comparison comparing it to note, its way better than note or any app.
Can u set the loop / bar length?
Ableton note FTW!!! 😂
hands lookin better 8)
CEOs os audio companies must love that “limitations leads to creativity” BS talk lol. The engineer comes saying: “boss, this processor isn’t enough, it will only handle 4 tracks flawlessly”, and the boss says: “no problem, the audio community will say we did it for the creativity, go ahead”. 😂
This device is just another way to miło more money by ableton 😉 it's like realeasing the new ipad mini by apple. 😂😂😂
Is your hand ok?
im a polydawist
Of course you can use more than four tracks in Controller Mode, just use the arrow buttons to move the rectangle and other tracks will be focused on Move, four at the time.
You can also use Move‘s sequencer in Controller Mode to sequence any midi track in your live set.
Its almost like you didnt research what it is.
Ableton Note wasn't brilliant. Ableton Note in hardware isn't going to be any better.
yeah, I don't see any reason to get ableton move, looks boring, too many buttons combos etc... no actual innovation in it. There are already a lot of portable devices with many more features and more interesting features like: lofi xt, smpletrek, circuits, yamaha seqtrak is way better, polyend tracker mini is amazingly better and more fun, even an MC-101 is much better.
I understand the hate on this product, its expensive for what it is, but I dont really think the 4 track thing is a limitation when you can resample. I think that sometimes limitations makes you more creative and thats the main point with the move
If limitations makes you more creative, then why didn't they make it 2 tracks, or 2x4 grid, or why not just use cassette instead?
@@ChrisP3000x limitations to some degree. When you have to many "resources" It can be limiting too, for me sometimes its hard to choose sounds between all the vsts that I bought over the years and having no limits makes me overthink music which can lead you to not finishing the music you are working on. Just my opinion. I'm not saying that move is great tho, I agree that 8 tracks would be the sweet spot
Hey JAde do you have latency as well when you use your Sp 404 mk2 as a effect processor for your modular?
only when using it to record into a daw is it ever noticeable
“Only four tracks in controller mode” sounds like something that could be fixed in an update patch.
That said, I fear most of the development and update patches will be focused on it being a groovebox. Controller functionality will take a back seat..
I am glad that you feel inspired to write songs and if the Move distracts from that, you definitely should get rid of it as soon as possible! For me the Move fits right in, at the moment I feel much more inspired to make very simple music on grooveboxes than making stuff with a lot of tracks. It is true that the phone app is almost the same, but the sequencer is great and having real buttons is also very nice.
Looks like it suffers from model:samples syndrome, where it feels more like a demo version of an instrument rather than an actual instrument
Someone apparently didn't get the memo. Not sure why you even got this device (besides the obvious GAS that's deliberately poisoning your audience, because we all love them views, don't we). If you just want to finish tracks, then this is NOT the Ableton device you want. It's a track starter, not a track finisher. How this got lost on you baffles me tbh. And of course it would always be a limited Ableton Live controller, especially compared to Push 3. Talking about unrealistic expectations, jeez.
seriously, P6 is where its at.
P-6 has max. 48 samples with max. 2.9 sec. sample length. They arent't playing in the same league.
@@minimal3734 p6 has upto 23.9 seconds per pad. i have two of them. thats over 1000 seconds sample time and sample rate changes.. the p6 will be getting used this time next year while you are convinced the move 2 is where its at because the move 1 didnt cut it. smh
note is great but i wish it had a sequencer so bad. playing things in isn’t always ideal
I wonder why they're holding out on this 🤔
Note has a sequencer in the public beta version.
@@ccmp23 !!!!
iPhone is shit
ItS nOT onLY 4 traCks iF yOu pReSs a BuTTOn aND SwING tHe otHeR bUToOn to CLicK tHe oTHer buTTOn thEN uSe tHe sTePs YoU cAN ADd mooOORe.
Meh. Fiddly ass tricks and work arounds do not count as a feature. Sorry.
lmao fr
You're so beautiful it's difficult to focus ( at least for me ) but when i can, what your saying is interesting.
Lolz! I thought the same thing…
you should definitely check out the p6 sampler it’s a battery charged little sp. its fun for making samples but it has a little Roland screen so it’s mostly button menu diving. Love the videos was really curious about the new ableton move if it would be worth it for some people❤
The p6 is worse than the move I returned that