A better route planner with an OBD dongle in the VW Id.3
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I hope that ABRP can sort out the bugs. It is astonishing that the legacy automakers have billion dollar R&D budgets but still have the primitive guessometer GOM after all these years 🤔. Meanwhile a software start-up is developing software that calculates in real time taking into account elevation along the route to your destination. 😎
I'm pretty sure the only reason Tesla has this functionality built in while the others don't is because they control and monitor all their charging stations in real time whereas everyone else is relying on a mish-mash of other chargers that they have no reliable data on. Basically, they don't want to tell you to go to a charging location and none of the chargers work. It's very simple software wise, not so simple liability wise.
Thx from 🇸🇪 for great ev tests, hope you will test the stellantis cars corsa e, peugeot 208e and/or c4e, i myself drive a mg zs ev 2021 on lease. Keep up the good work and keep those videos coming...🤘😎👍
Thanks for the ride. Always interesting to hang out with you 😊 Btw A better routeplanner really has got a great tester in you... You are very good at describing what goes on and give feedback / sum up things. Congrats with the 20k subscribers. So well deserved 👍
Thank you
Danke, super Tip! Ich kann es kaum erwarten, bis mein ID4 da ist. Bis dahin sind deine Videos echt unter meinen internationalen Favoriten :-)
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I used it a lot on long trips, I think you have to be a bit careful with your saved plan, since sometimes you might need to end the navigation and restart the plan to force it to recalculate. I sometimes had “my position” in the plan, sometimes the fixed point, and that caused a bug when reinitiating.
I've been using this method for a few months with my e-golf for a few months now .. and so far I've been very impress .. there was one time when I'm driving up-hill and going againts a very strong headwind and when I arrive at my destination, it was within 1% difference from the original prediction of ABRP, showing that it takes into account the elevation change and weather condition .. my only complaint at the moment is that sometime it can forget to tell us which road to take when the road splits .. you have to look at the maps to know for sure ..
I will buy one. Amazing!
Great video!
My experience with ABRP was similar to yours. It selected some chargers away from the motorway and ignored some obvious chargers at motorway services 😱. I figured out that it was assuming that the chargers were only installed for one direction of travel ☹️. It aims to provide advanced features but fails on basic operation, so I turned it off. By contrast Google maps found the motorway chargers but the process of entering chargers along the route was clunky. ☹️
I wonder if this is a recent bug. I've been playing with ABRP a lot since ordering our ID:3, looking at some of my common long range routes. Recently it seems to be avoiding the obvious motorway chargers. This didn't used to happen a few weeks ago.
Good test. It shows that E-Mobility is still in pioneering mode. ABRP in my test under IOS crashed much too often and also the quality of navigation is poor. Also the bug you are reporting within your summary, is a real showstopper for real world use.
The method "add waypoint" is not working because if you are getting a re-route due to road block, it will try to navigate to the waypoint which makes no sense.
Please also test the app "PUMP". Interface is much cleaner but I have no experience on its quality.
Damn, reminding me again how much I really want an ID.3, such a shame you can't buy one.
Getting live data obviously gets the all in all use from the battery. Including heating and accessories.
Besides the charger map not being up to date I think the VW Navi isn't that bad, too.
It's just less informative on SoC within the screen.
I planned some trips with ABRP on the web. And had same issues with chargers on route. Some obvious point we're skipped and put out of the way for easy routing.
I love the VW navigation. Long trip planning and searching for some destinations is just not working great yet.
I have only used it for two 320km trips in an ID.3. I used as bluetooth (BLE) dongle( vLinker MC+). It did give me peace of mind and I saved time by just charging enough to get me home. I did not see the information in the instrument cluster, only in the screen, perhaps this is a new feature.
They update the app every week
Not sure it's the same out there but I found, to our frustration with BP Pulse, you have to confirm the charge on the BP Pulse app...but once we figured it out all was good.
Not here, it selected it right away
And now we know that the light shines from your head! :)
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@@BatteryLife Look at the intro of the video, sun is right behind your head and makes you look almost messianic.
Can also use a standard web browser on computer to plan trip prior as well.
Do you have a ABRP referral link to give out as well, think that's what Bjorn has/calls it?
No, not sponsored. I mentioned web based planning.
Hello !
So I’m thinking about ev
And this obd with abrp premium will work similar like route planner in Tesla ?
You know sir , shows me on abrp how much battery I have and this same on car dashboard and how much I will have battery when I get to the next destination?
How about when I will go faster ? Will find me a near station ?
Is it way better than the integrated trip planner ? ABRP is cool but not sure it is worth a premium account
Hey Du, welchen dongle kannst Du empfehlen oder hast du gebraucht? LG Tamas
I Think ABRP seems unstable. And it do not show poi at all. I really want to like it But it is just not good enough. A mix between the onboard gps and ABRP would be perfect.
Do you know it there are plans to make od cars compitible with Apple Maps
Great video thanks.
Have you been invited to the Kia event in Frankfurt for the launch of the Niro EV? or will you be covering it?
I have not been invited
@@BatteryLife do you have any idea what date it is?
About the different state of charge in ABRP and in the infortainment. It's probably not the same in ID3, but in my e-up the value for state of charge that you get from the OBD isn't the same as displayed in the cars infotainment. I'm just guessing but the reading from the OBD maybe include the top and bottom battery buffer? And for me ABRP showed the OBD reading that differed from the infotainment.
It would be awesome if ABRP could guess the degradation also.
No, it is not the buffer. Soc is not as easy to read as you think. Not every cell is the same. So it is an average. And manufactures change the display of the soc for the customer sometimes.
Aha thanks! I tried to watch the difference when driving one time and it didn't fit what to expect if it was with the buffer included. So I was confused. But it makes sense knowing its like you said..
Chris, at 12:55 you misspoke. You said …wife and beautiful puppies… when you obviously meant …beautiful wife and puppies… 😙.
I ended my subscription. Doesn’t work as well on iOS. I now use power cruise control . Excellent app, but you need to be connected to calculate the route.
ABRP is amazing and I've been using it in my Tesla as well, but since V11 the Tesla navigation calculates exactly the same way as ABRP does. Maybe Tesla learnt from them. :)
Did you have to change a setting in ABRP to get it to display the “next turn” info on the screen above the steering wheel?
I have an ID.4 AWD Pro S and Apple Maps does this with CarPlay, but I could not figure out how to get it to work with ABRP.
Which ‘maps type’ setting are you using in ABRP?
It works better with Android. That is why.
@@BatteryLife Ugg. I worried that might be the case. Looks like the iOS version is in need of an update to get feature parity with Android release.
Probably won’t continue my premium membership after this month until it gets properly updated.
Hoping Apple Maps will integrate this all natively like they just did for Mach-E.
Electric cars are so nice:
Already need to buy extra stuff to get the basic conviniance of charging stops added.
Dongle 1 time $$$
ABRP pay per month $$$
Fast charging card for savings $$$
Simply amazing wish cars had this feature when comming from the factory
90% of the time you don't need it.
Most of the time I want to use a different charger than what abrp says
...and id cars get charger added to trip with the next software a few weeks.
ABRP was a complete disaster in my trips to The Netherlands (from Munich), on both iOS and Android very unstable (a bit better on Android). Navigation is terrible.
Hallo aus Holland! Endlich hab ich gefunden was ich gesucht habe. Verrätst Du mir welchen Type OBD scanner Du benutzt hast...
WonTon
oder TonWon
Hey! I'm an ABRP premium user since more than a year and I concur! It's a cool app but it's not without flaws... hope they'll keep improving the app. I HAVE SOME INTERESTING NEWS FOR YOU! check Tronity service... and you can skip the dongle bit! Tronity uses your VW credentials to get battery status from VW servers and inject this information into ABRP.
But tronity is not for free.
@Battery Life not that expensive... it's accurate, convenient, you save your phone battery (does not need to exchange info via Bluetooth), it's always available, you skip the part of phone-dongle connection... I think is worth the money. And by the way... I have no particular interest in Tronity.
another advantage is that you do not have to worry about the dongle sucking out your start battery while parking and providing unwanted access to your car by some hackers.
@@MartinKli56 Most dongles do not have any built in security, so the best advice is to unplug the dongle when you are not in the car
Is the standard id3 route planner not very good? Im considering buying an id3 and would love to see some more info on how the built in navigation planner works
It will be better with 3.0, but abrp is very detailed
I also have an id3 and was searching for an obd that works correctly. But I can’t find that brand. Can you place a link? Thanks .
Tonwon obd ii
So you're using the dongle without EVNotify? I'm getting my ID.3 next Saturday and will give my old Carly / BMWhat dongle a try.
Yes, dongle right into the phone and abrp
One question: did you observed difference consumption between driving manual and driving with cruise?
I only drive cruise.
You know you can also do this with tronity? Abrp is great, I always use it
But you don't trinity for this. Obd dongle and go
@@BatteryLife I used to use a dongle, now it's easier just not to have to remember to plug in anything and just rely on tronity doing what it does.
@@enyaq_gorm i use tronity but it updates every 5 mins. So soc lags behind in abrp
ABRP is just AMAZING! The biggest downside is that it's not integrated directly in the in-car infotainment systems! I think Volkswagen should just acquire ABRP and integrate the software directly in their vehicles
Does ABRP work directly with the OBD dongle, or does it an interface App between ABRP and the dongle?
Directly
@@BatteryLife which dongle can work with IOS and ABRP directly... thanks... and great videos on your channel
How are you connecting between Android Auto and the car? Wireless or USB cable?
Both work
@@BatteryLife I'm asking because I connected Android Auto today for the first time to my ID.3. It connected over WiFi (I think the car created a hotspot) but there is a problem with the sound. The sound is completely garbled and constantly interrupting, even the Google Maps navigation directions are very distorted.
Does android auto work in the car?
What does the premium account do
Yes, Android Auto and Apple car play works. Abrp only works on Android Auto with a premium account.
This is clever... However it also demonstrates how poor VW built-in software is. I know they're investing heavily in it, but I'm unlikely to see much benefit in next 3 years. It's unlikely my next car will be VW; just imagine what Google SW cars will be able to do by then.
Has nothing to do with poor software. More with the decision to implement something like this.
Which dongle do you have?
Wonton
@@BatteryLife Is it "Tonwon" instead of "Wonton"? Is it possible to place a link for the item? Is there another dongle that also gives the same result and ease of connection?...I can't seem to get my OBDeleven dongle to work with ABRP...Many thanks!...great channel BTW....
Don't you need EVnotify too?
No, not anymore. If the obd dongle works with abrp. Mine does.
@@BatteryLife Just tested it. VeePeak ODB dongle works too
There is clearly a problem of some sort with the VW system then? Bit concerning if you cant rely on the vehicle info, or have I misunderstood?
Yes, you have misunderstood. Abrp is just planning the route on more data. Id cars just have a normal navigation.
@@BatteryLife Thanks - I'm going to watch it again...