How To Spot Weld in Bead Rolled Floor Pans | Seat Frame Build (1931 Model A Roadster)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ต.ค. 2024
- On this episode of Make It Kustom, I am working on the 1931 Model A roadster floor. I’m also fabricating a seat frame so that I know where to weld in my threaded inserts in the floor braces before spot welding the bead rolled floor panels down. I also talk about my process for spot welding with a TIG welder.
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nice job on giving the hot rod career away for free for youtube fame!
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic? If you are not then thank you and if you are then thank you lol sharing knowledge only furthers humanity
Totally agree Carl it takes special people to give up knowledge
Seriously man, it takes talent and willpower along with knowledge…. I give my professional information away free as well and after 30 years have yet to have a single soul get near my job… if you are afraid that teaching will cost you your job then you aren’t as good as you think, and even if you are there’s plenty to go around, in case you missed it the world is lacking skilled trades as youngsters haven’t learned them in quite a long time now and the old guys are retired or will soon… Teach every young person you can bro, being a master isn’t complete until you have taught a few your trade…. ✌️
Sharing knowledge is what we need more of. Help each other save the cars. There is no shortage of work in this industry, just a shortage of people with skills, and it is basically impossible to get formal schooling on this.
Heh, the knowledge is valuable but for better or worse there’s still a ton of work involved. Not to mention I think it might take me a few tries to get the techniques to work like they do in the videos.
Very tidy work. Don't think people realize the time you put into this not only the work itself but the thought process to figure everything out. Joy to watch and learn. Keep them coming.
Love to see one of my favs comment in another of my favs!!! You are both great teachers of your craft!!!
Thanks so much Tony I really appreciate it especially from you as always! Thanks for your support thanks for your content cheers!
Fitzee you are my favourite and now I have another place to learn
Good to see you cheering up the “future”
Wow
When youtube worlds collide
Thanks to both of you guys. If you ever see a Hoppy's House of Hot Rods video, that will be me throwing my hat in the ring. Right now it's off to both of you.👍
Hands down best instruction and demonstration on TH-cam. Awesome work mate!!!
Agreed mate!
Thanks so much! I really appreciate that.👊👊👊
That firewall, transmission tunnel and floor pan ought to be in a museum.
WOW is an understatement. This was a real fun one to watch. 👍
Thanks so much Randy! It’s been a lot of work lol
Anyone else just instantly smash the like button before the video even starts playing because you know it's going to be great with this dude 🤟
You Sir are a true craftsman. Beautiful ! ! ! Furthermore, I like your style. You don't try to be the comedian or clown, just straight down to the work, which is both rare and refreshing.
Much appreciated man. Really glad that you dig the channel! Cheers
Massive skills! Great , humble teaching style also! Showing your work from cad to plasma cut to kleko install, and reasons for thru holes making a better weld ... You are the man! What a pro job you can be proud of! The building is more satisfying than the end product ownership, both have their satisfaction, but a Fab dude probably isn't satisfied unless another fulfilling job is planned and taking place.
Props!
Looks awesome
Thanks so much man I really appreciate it! Thanks for watching man and your feedback is making my day! Cheers
Sure is fun watching a master craftsman at work. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!! Great video!!!
You’re so welcome thanks for watching!
I love all the 'skelotonized' frame work. Let's you use that nice 10ga without all the weight. Thanks for another great video. Keep 'em coming.
Thanks very much man I appreciate it! We will keep them coming if you keep watching ha ha
Karl, that 31 roeadster is sweet! I love watching you work. So much knowledge being passed on.
Tell the owner to bring it to SoCal for the GNRS show at some point.
Show it in bare metal, then bring it back again when done for the AMBR.
Wow
I’m not sure I’ll ever have a situation where I would try this but I can watch and listen to you do this for hours lol
Keep it up with the vidyas 🤘
Thank you very much!
I build my own Machines and Love metal Shaping , I know how to , weld , do chop tops , make floors and so on , coming here to your channel , it gives me a smile and INSPIRATION , your style is what I like and the way you talk to people , all so , you are a very good Man , thanks mate all the best from Australia
Every time I watch what you do,I learn something new,I did not realize why all the holes were in the floor pan frame rails and now it make sense,your tips will help me when I start to build my projects! Thanks!
! That’s exactly what I want to hear
First time seeing someone tig a spot weld. Insane.
Great explanations of both the bead rolling logic on the floor pans and the drill through approach to welding them in. It’s good education to hear the “why” pre-stretching might be good and when its not needed.
Thank you very much Bob!
The finish of your bare metal is absolute art! The interior looks so beautiful without anything in it. It will be a shame to put seats etc in and cover up that gorgeous work! Each angle and roll lovingly hand made by a highly conscientious craftsman. The owner indeed is a lucky person.
Thank you for sharing this, Karl.
Can’t wait to see it finished!
Just chrome it. 😁
You’re so welcome and thank you very much for the generous compliments! Every day is a school day for me I am just grateful for the experience!
This has got to be one of the best channels for this type of work. Look forwards to every lesson. Just brilliant Thank You
You’re so welcome thanks for watching! Cheers
Very help full idea about drilling through both layers Karl . the floors and seat support look amazing . everything i see you do is a true work of art . i love how you explain why you do it your way. thank you for the great video work too Christina .
thanks so much! I’ll definitely pass it on to her as well I’m glad you dig it!
Great video and amazing work! Thanks for explaining why you don't need the prestretch on the beadroll. That floor is badass!
You’re very welcome Chris thanks for watching!
I found your channel just a few days ago and I have already seen most of your videos.. I am really impressed with your work, but also with the fact that you answer questions!!! I asked about 5-6 and you answered every one of them.. So thank you for your incredible work and for this great channel. I hope you find a new place that won't drain everything you've got... You will never need a "STORE FRONT" as your work will bring people from everywhere to wherever you are... And you WILL need good vacations, so find a place OFF the beaten path that you can BUY and build your future. Not some landlord who won't give two shits..... I wish you all the luck and can't wait for the next video..
Thanks so much Steve I really appreciate that! Yes we did find a place it’s expensive here so it’s expensive lol but I still think we are getting more than we bargained for. A better quality of life with this new property. Thanks for watching all the videos!
Awesome practical video!!! Greeting from New Zealand! 🇳🇿
Your skills relate to more years than you are old. EXCELLENT JOB and presentation. If my metal skills equal yours , I would never cover it up with carpet lol. Jeff
Definitely
Thanks so much man I appreciate that
Those floor panels fit like a glove. Ready for the next one Karl.
Carl you make “outstanding” look easy. Fantastic job on the floor pan. Can’t wait to see the end results. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks a lot Bill will do!
The tip about having the hole through the panels is killer. Thanks. I always thought I had to open up the hole in the top sheet to get proper plug weld but I'm going to try your method here. I'm doing a bunch of clecoed panels now so couldn't have come at a better time👍👍🙏
Right on glad it came at a good time!
I used to work in a body shop back in the 70's, your skill level is fantastic and is above most people working metal like you do.
Once again Karl, beautiful work and another great tutorial!!
As always your work is top notch!!! It's easy to be inspired by the quality of work you produce!!!
Thanks a lot man I appreciate it
Thank you for the videos, a video on pre-streaching panels 👍
Will do!
That is some really fine work. Work you can be proud of.
Thanks so much!
Geez, I love your style, builder and teacher. Great show guys, thanks for all you do.
So welcome thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great tips. Also you do some excellent work, that’s going to be one finely crafted hotrod.
You’re welcome!
Beautiful job on the pans, well thought out and executed.
Thank you very much Jim
I see you becoming the #1 builder on TH-cam.
Anyone can throw a fender on and mix some plastic and slap it into a hole . What you do is MAGIC to the auto body repair. I am a retired auto body guy and never came close at your level. More worked at dealerships and did that kind of repair. Keep letting the young generation know what is out there. At my age internet wasn't available , so what we learned from is other guys what they did. You should be very proud of yourself on where you stand in the world. No 1 in my book. Keep the content coming . Ben from Alberta
Floor looks really good, along with the seat mount. I like the way you explain what and why your doing this way.
Thank you
Thanks so much man I appreciate it! I’m glad that you like the style
Lot of time in that floor and it shows it. Nice work. Can't wait to see that rocker panel get installed on the van.
You’re in luck the video drops tonight
I freaking love this channel. I have been doing custom motorcycles and cars for 30+ years. I learn so much from you. Thanks
Awesome man glad to hear it! Thanks for watching
Your metal working kicks! Better than some of the other channels. :D
"Doesn't have to be perfect" - because it will be when you are finished. Awesome work man..
That metal work is over the top.
Fantastic work!
Thank you so much!
guys this is metal working ..... pure art, good job man ;-)
Thanks so much man!
Thank you for another wonderful video. Just love the way you work, it's so clean. The cleacos to hold the floor panels in place are a good idea so that you won't get movement anywhere else on the panel while you're welding. ❤️👍😊
Exactly thank you so much for watching!
Model A is looking freaking awesome - love the aviation looking inner structure keep up the good work
Excellent Steve!
Very nice job and clean lines. Now I can't wait to see the finished car. Also, I like to watch the whole build.
Great job.
Thank you very much we will show the whole thing on here
@@MakeItKustom if I were younger and lived near you, I would love to work and help you for free. Just to learn everything from you.
Your work is awesome and your engine work is great. Thanks for putting on the whole build out for all of us to see. See you soon.
I’ve got some old skins I’ve collected over the years and you’ve given me a good way of bracing them up to make a body. Thanks man!
You make it look easy, such a talented craftsman !
Thanks man!
It's really too bad most folks won't ever get an opportunity to fully appreciate all the contemplation, decision-making and hard work that goes into such a project. Beautiful, inspiring workmanship!
Thanks Timothy and you’re right many people don’t know the thought that goes into it all just the work
I was trained through hole welding. I can't remember the hole size but I know it was a heck of a lot larger than 1/8". Probably 3/8". He was so particular that it had to have the little silicon dot right in the middle to pass quality. All on MIG back then. It was valuable training. Screw up and cut clean through a spot weld. Not an issue.
Yes absolutely it’s important to have a larger hole in the top for wire feed
Man the seat frame & floor pans look great with your technique. 😎👍🇨🇦
Thanks so much Ron!
That interior looks like art! Well done!
Thanks so much man!
This method is obliviously better by saves time, money and "tin panning". Looks clean and neat too! Thanks, JD
U deserve way more followers! Keep on pushin brother. Living legend!
Jason I hope so!
Thank you Karl, great videos that have helped solve how to problems on my Triumph TR3A restoration. Awesome that you are sharing your talents to help others, much appreciated. Frank
Great to hear Frank thanks for watching!
Super clean work, as always. I can’t wait to see you get settled and start on the 2 door conversion zephry. It’s gonna be just as slick.
Me too man I really got a cut into that!
beyond amazing....wish my stuff turned out a tenth as nice as yours but they do not even compare....your talent is out of this world...never stop doing what you do
Thanks so much Ken I really appreciate it
The best and clearest example I have seen. Very well done.
Thanks so much!
That's going to be one nice car Karlos 😁😁 no rot no rust solid metal Awesome dude 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Thanks man I’m excited for it!
I recently found your channel and I must say, as a fellow fabricator, props for sharing your knowledge!! I’m a firm believer in sharing what you know!!! I truly appreciate your work and attention to detail!! Thumbs up man and keep up the great work!!!
Thanks so much man cheers!
Another great video. Not only a great metal man but also a great teacher.
Thanks Mike!
Been doing that work all my life, Agree with all you said, outstandung work young man.
NICE! Back in my day we didn't have CAD programs or CNC plasma tables. Great music once again. I have found in the past that when one has a plan and attempts to implement it as it was thought and written down, there are always things and ideas that crop up and you go" Hey, that's a great Idea and it would look so cool"! this is where a five hour job turns into a fifty hour job, but it feel good and it feels right. I LOVE Clecos! Without the holes in the braces the Tig will tens to arc in the hole and not touch the brace very much, which will lead to broken welds later on and then you get some nasty road rattle that you have to fix else it drives you crazy. Super job on the welding. I wish I could weld that fast, I might have made some money at this game. Like my old friend Bill used to say, "have a plan, but you can change it as you go, It's an organic process". He would've like you Karl, but he's been gone now these last 6 years.
Yeah man I kind of like to let the project tell me where it wants to go. Designing on the flyers all I know
Just curious how you prevent rusting between the floorboards and structure? I really appreciate the instructions you're sharing.
Me curious too)
Do you use weld through primer?
Probably weldable primer or seam seal so no air or moisture can get in between them. That's what I do anyways. That's really the only thing you can do that I know of.
I’d be very interested in that question as well. Obviously weld through primer and seam sealer are possible preventative measures but not a perfect solution really. It’d be nice to think there was a way to design out that issue so that it’s a forever job.
Yes it will be sealed up and I think I will try powder coating everything inside and out before bodywork and paint. I’ve been talking to some shops that do this and swear by it now
AWESOME work Karl..the idea of the recessed nuts is definitely something I would like to use in the future...just gotta learn to weld...
You can do it! Are used upside down flange nuts to weld in Holes I drilled
One of the best guys on TH-cam amazing skills and everything well explained 👏👏
Thanks so much!
Ive never ever done metal work before . i really like what you are doing
You made it look EZ. You are a Master of your trade.
Thanks for watching man!
I love the way you are building the roadster. All the inner bracing is killer. I’m gonna use the idea on a 5 window coupe I have that was in a fire.
Oh no how warped of the panels? Good luck on the build I’m stoked that you’re going to use similar bracing
Really enjoying the constant content. Keep up the excellent work!
Awesome man great to hear it! Thanks for supporting channel
That floor looks to damn nice to be a floor ! Great technique and vision Karl ! That CNC table is the cat’s ass , a video on design and programming it would be awesome. Thanks Karl , by the way I love my new hat ! lol
That is a good idea. Would also be interested to see the drawing and programming of the plasma cutter:-)
I too would be interested...
Good idea!
Beautiful work! A true artist 🎨
Thank you!
Karl the floor pan and the seat bracket is a fantastic piece of art work. It makes sense to drill the holes and Tig weld them in.You metal fabrication is so nice and clean work. I really love your work. Thank you for the fantastic video.☺️☺️👍👍👍✌️✌️
Thanks a lot Roger! Hope you have a great weekend
Great design and thinking forward.
Thanks for sharing!
Welcome thanks for watching!
dang buddy the tools, and knowledge you have is outstanding, very nice setup and job.
Thanks so much man!
I must have watched this video a dozen times. Love it.
Looks great. Love the attention to detail!
Awesome work, don't even put seats in, haha
Ha ha yeah unfortunately it’s all getting covered up but it looks pretty from underneath!
Fantastic work, gotta be proud of that👍
Yeah man I’m stoked with it!
Wow Karl you continue blow my mind with the things you do. You are a Professional Artist on a whole nother level. Continue to do what you are doing. You really impress me more and more. You type of work is very interesting to see, when one has never seen it before. I didn't know it involves that much work, well in your case no one does your work like you would like it to be. You go to full extreme to make sure it's done right. Beautiful job Karl n Kristina. God Bless..Peace
Well thanks so much Eddie! We really appreciate it
Seriously talented brother, looks great. Keep it up.
Thanks man!
Great instructional video! Thanks again!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
I'd be interested to see a destruction test comparison between your tig plug weld 1/8 with the hole right through and a mig plug weld 8mm hole on the top panel only.
The mig is a stronger weld just on a metallurgical level and I would about guarantee a correct ICAR type weld will outperform in a destruction test. This way isn't necessarily wrong (as the floor isn't a fully structural piece) but I'd be curious to see the performance of these welds too
Yes that would be interesting but unnecessary. If you think about a factory spot weld how tiny they are now think about the tig weld As long as it’s stronger or as strong as a factory spot weld then it is enough. I’m sure a wire feed welder could do an even stronger wild when sent properly but the strength is not in question
Awesome work as usual. Technology nowadays certainly saves you a lot of time. Back in my days I had to fabricate mostly all by hand and had pretty much all we had was a stick welder, a kerosene flamer and an assortment of soldering irons lol
I bet you did it a lot with a little. Thanks a lot John!
Holy shit man that is some of the best metal and panel work I have seen and I’ve watched car shows for a very long time, great quality job and thanks for showing us 👍👍
Обалденная работа! Отличный пример технического искусства!
Excellent as always. By all means keep the momentum going. The 31 is a good project.
I’m trying! Ha ha
Such a neat and tidy job. Its gonna be a car but could easily be an art piece. Appreciate your labours
Thanks a lot Simon!
Love the videos my wife teases me all the time she walks in the shop and I have your videos playing and all she says is oh my God you have a new man crush and I tell her no I finally found someone else whom I respect when he speaks because there's definitely a lot of TH-cam builders guys shouldn't be taking seriously on their how to videos
Ha ha ha my wife says that too if I find somebody new on TH-cam lol thanks for watching man I appreciate it much respect! Cheers
That was an absolute pleasure to watch great work.
Thank you!
That's a hell of a good looking floorpan 💯💪
Thanks a lot!
I liked your explanation for drilling through before plug welding.
Awesome glad it’s making sense!
Love watching your videos 👍🏻
Thank you very much!
Great quality metal work. Absolutely beautiful. And excellent production quality on the video.
Nice clean work. How about a workshop tour . Want to look at your metal break . Looks like a good asset .
He's got one. Dig around a bit, it shouldn't be hard to find.
Your very skilled who taught you formal education, seminars or working with metal shapers. I know most of it that came from experience. You have a knack most of is you and attention to how the art of metal work can be done. Thank you for sharing
Yeah most of it came from experience but I did two weekend courses in my life that helped me out. One was Christian Sosa’s metal shaving class and another was Renato Muskovic we can class I took in high school. At that time I didn’t really absorb much but just being exposed to his machinery open my eyes
Awesome work. 2 things you might want to check is the order you do the welding. I noticed you just started on one side and finished on the other. It is always a good practice to distribute the load you are putting on the metal. It will definately increase your work time on it. second is you need to keep the inert gas on the weld pool longer ager disengaging the torch. It helps cool the weld better and shields it against corrosion.
In the end it does not really matter as this looks magnificent.
Thanks man!
Hi Karl, I'm a recent subscriber and a fellow TH-camr too. I just wanted to say I really appreciate your channel. I've been working with metal since 1977 and I still love it to this day. Your workmanship is very inspiring. I get a lot out of your tips and methods and will apply a lot of your advice to my projects. Glen Rid at NZ Mopar told me about you and said i would enjoy what you are doing. I'm just wrapping up a '69 Z28 and getting into a 1977 Honda CB750 and a handbuilt T Bucket. Really anjoying your Model A.. Take care!
Thanks so much for the thoughtful comment! Glad to hear you can use some of the information on your own stuff. Thanks for watching man cheers!
loving the series,hope it's keeps going till a finished car :)
Me too!
Great job you are one talented young man keep up the good work 👍
Thanks a lot Keith!
Great video man! Nice work! Really enjoyed all the fab work and talk. I hope this channel blows up for you because I think you deserve a hell of a lot of viewers. As always, I’m looking forward to the next one! 🤙
Thanks a lot Collin I appreciate your support! I hope so too next one drops in a few hours
Awesome job Karl... Looks outstanding!!
Thanks man!