CLOUD MCH DURABILTY vs. Surefire, Streamlight, Modlite

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  • @WerkzHolsters
    @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    FYI, I've heard back from Surefire and they're going to take the light back and (hopefully) let us know what might have gone wrong. I'll update this comment once we have word.

    • @packer492
      @packer492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats awesome looking forward to hearing what they have to say!

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@packer492 Same here!

    • @tedundercarriage8183
      @tedundercarriage8183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      any news? This has shaken my confidence in surefire and I'd like to know if it was just a fluke

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tedundercarriage8183 Nothing back from them as of today (8/13).

    • @theheretic3764
      @theheretic3764 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tedundercarriage8183 I imagine it was.
      I mean when you consider their reputation? That would spread like wildfire if it became frequent by any measure.

  • @ArtInTheWild24
    @ArtInTheWild24 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Purchased a streamlight pro HLX and watching this video and seeing it the only one that stayed on during the drops makes me feel so much better about my purchase!

  • @diode30
    @diode30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    The fact that you only have 13k subs is a crime. Someone who goes out and buys a salt spray chamber for testing is my kind of guy.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It is my hope that the subs will come over time. And I'm all about buying the right equipment to do the right sort of testing. I like having the lab capability so we can fairly and accurately test!

    • @JohnSmith-yx8kf
      @JohnSmith-yx8kf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WerkzHolsters Keep putting out content like this and the channel will take off for sure.

    • @harisyoung4110
      @harisyoung4110 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, and buy a forklift to do this test

  • @jamesceli7721
    @jamesceli7721 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Im interested in seeing how an Elzetta, malkoff, HDS, and a weltool do against each other in a test👀👀👀

  • @gabrielsmith2913
    @gabrielsmith2913 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    You guys are my light channel, I appreciate how you do your testing and how you present the information. I can tell you guys have taken time to trim the fat and get right to the numbers. I'm subscribed for life. Thank you

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks much Gabriel for your feedback and encouragement! My stated goal is to help buyers make informed decisions by providing fair & unbiased info. It is my hope that this in turn helps manufacturers deliver the products that we want & need.

  • @timbenham516
    @timbenham516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thanks for an honest review and not skewing the results. I still love streamlight though!

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's my pleasure! I like Streamlight products as well. They fare quite well in much of our testing.

  • @XrayMike17plus1
    @XrayMike17plus1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Really have to applaud the efforts these guys go to in testing. Thanks!

  • @Fordbronco68
    @Fordbronco68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've got both the Cloud Defensive MCH and Streamlight HL-X, I've had the Streamlight in my truck for quite awhile now and have been using the MCH while at work. Thanks for testing these and making me feel good about my choice in lights to carry with me!

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of my goals is to make sure you have data to help make the right decisions (or verify you already made the right decisions!). :)

  • @trevorkendrick4773
    @trevorkendrick4773 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It would be awesome to do the same test with the new surefire edc2-dft, cloud defensive mch duty, and stream light strion hl ds

  • @divisiondevin7885
    @divisiondevin7885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting observation:
    I carry my modlite EDC with a thrym switchback and it has survived quite a few substantial falls while occasionally denting the top of the batteries. Maybe the big plastic loop is providing an impact cushion?
    Great testing as always and thanks for being so transparent. It was a pleasure to have interacted with you during the premier!

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's definitely fun for me as well. As someone else suggested, maybe I should run an interactive ask me anything...

  • @YippeeKiYayMrFalcon
    @YippeeKiYayMrFalcon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wish we could have seen an Elzetta Bravo (or Alpha) tested amongst these other lights. There's a good chance it would have beat them all.

    • @uwu-i3v
      @uwu-i3v ปีที่แล้ว

      Elzetta will never break.

  • @uwu-i3v
    @uwu-i3v ปีที่แล้ว +1

    have a Modlite Handheld PLHv2, which is a very good tactical light. But I have one problem... that's because the bezel of the light head is thin. Modlite weighs about 170g, so if it falls from the head part, deformation of the bezel is inevitable. I think it's easy for the lens to be damaged by this.

  • @Vester1one
    @Vester1one ปีที่แล้ว

    So been using the streamlight for past 7-8 months every single day in the morning walking my dog in the woods. I’ll admit it, I’ve tumbled on it once or twice now and dropped it getting out of my truck many times. Thing is great. The low power mode is usually what I run 95% of the time. I love it personally

  • @proudtex
    @proudtex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'd love to see y'all test Malkoff Devices and/or HDS Systems lights.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have some Malkoff Devices heads here...

    • @falcoslyviper
      @falcoslyviper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +1 for the Malkoff MD2, specifically the M61 HOT head. I have an MD2 and an MCH, the MD2 is a bit chonkier than the MCH and built like a tank.

    • @proudtex
      @proudtex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WerkzHolsters Depending on what heads you have, get the E-series to 18650 body or the full size MD2 body. Both built like a tank! The modularity, and the fact that it's a family owned American business combined with the quality makes them my lights of choice.

    • @techcores
      @techcores 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HDS won't survive.

  • @fixedfocusmediaofficial
    @fixedfocusmediaofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Elzetta Bravo B331 is much more durable than all of these. 1 inch thick solid acrylic optical lens, fully potted electronics, waterproof inside and out, and doesn't overheat or compromise reliability. I have the older 650 lumen version and unlike other lights it doesn't drop down. My 650 lumen Bravo is brighter than all of my 1,000 lumen lights. I like my Surefire lights to but never leave the house without my Bravo B331. Why leave with anything less than the best?

    • @xrazx1269
      @xrazx1269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow best info for elzetta...one day i must get that...wish me luck

  • @mcmlxv9827
    @mcmlxv9827 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the MCH edc dual, and I really like it. My go to edc. I've had the HLX for awhile and is attached to a rifle, it's a good light. Those boots look like Nick's. The best built boots.

  • @bines123
    @bines123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive had a streamlight pro tac hlx for law enforcement patrol setting for 6 years. No problems other than ive issues with the rechargeable batteries from streamlight. I fully expected the vastly cheaper light to lose.

  • @gebeme11
    @gebeme11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is the best channel.
    And to find out that you are "forklift certified" is even better.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta have the forklift to move in our holster supplies. I was pleasantly surprised how violent the rear wheels were on the lights. I'll have to do that again!

  • @fp7151
    @fp7151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just found this channel and Its amazing thank you for doing an unbiased Flashlight review on reliability! Definitely subscribed!

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the subscription! Lots more content coming.

  • @g-mc4507
    @g-mc4507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool video. More lights testing please. Got my holster last week from you guys and love it. Thanks for the video

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback on both accounts!

  • @edcarizona7034
    @edcarizona7034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great test guys, love that you do these👊 MCH is the edc handheld, and have the HLX in my truck at all times. Keep up the awesome tests!

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the plan. We have lots of content coming!

  • @Zel_eo
    @Zel_eo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I so surprised the SF died like that. I've had my SF scout DF take hits on more barricades than I can count, even a spill out the side of a moving car. I hope you guys get some word back from them because I really want to know what went wrong with it. Either way, amazing video as always guys!
    I do have a question though. Did you guys by chance remove the tail-cap and check the back spring? The main issue that I have run into with SF lights is that the contact spring can, upon taking its first spill, get knocked around and move backwards a bit. This makes it so tail-cap cannot activate the light. This is also why the momentary pads sometimes produce less output vs their tail-cap counterparts. The solution that works best, as I've found at least, is to take a small pair of pliers and slightly tug the spring to make it a smidge longer.

  • @mikewright2917
    @mikewright2917 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I literally have a surefire in my shopping cart on OP website wanted to do a little research before I bought it. I will definitely be picking something else.

  • @jdaniel4237
    @jdaniel4237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the reviews, keep them coming! Please throw an Olight warrior x pro / 3 in the mix for these comparisons!

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lots more content coming for sure! Yes, I do need to get the Olights in the handheld mix too.

    • @jdaniel4237
      @jdaniel4237 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WerkzHolsters I look forward to it!

  • @falcoslyviper
    @falcoslyviper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great tests! Makes me even more confident about my MCH. Wish a Malkoff MD2 handheld was in the testing lineup as well, any change for a pt2 😁?

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I intend to do a lot more "short takes" with other lights... we have to Malkoff heads sitting in the lab ready for testing.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Star Gazer1212 We have all the hard data in our other video for those lights, plus charts at lowlightdefense.com/

    • @Osprey1994
      @Osprey1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Star Gazer1212 I think the goal was relatively obvious...destruction.

  • @ahmadcampbell2626
    @ahmadcampbell2626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That Streamlight seems to be the Best Bang for the Bucks

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Streamlight is a solid option!

  • @Kross8761
    @Kross8761 ปีที่แล้ว

    Streamlights are excellent lights, if they'd put more precedence on high candela (or offer high candela versions of their "flagship" models) i can't really say id ever want anything else. Theyre tough as HELL, I've carried the one in my pocket right now for over 5 years as a warehouse worker and in my private time I i work on cars, tractors, and do all sorts of farm work and my tools do NOT get gentle treatment. My previous light was a streamlight as well and it didnt break, it accidentally came out of my pocket while loading a truck and it got shipped to South America. Their peripheral items (like tape switches for rifle lights could definitely be better) but otherwise their durability and reliability has been incredible.

  • @Diceman12100
    @Diceman12100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I own surefire lights, but 90% of my rifles run a streamlight with a arisaka adapter and a surefire pressure switch. Save the money and get a streamlight and run the adapter and surefire pressure switch.

  • @1581zebra
    @1581zebra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Surefire fanboy since the mid 90s here.
    I’ve had a couple through the years that had minor issues, but I’ve never had one actually fail me. Kinda sad to see this one failed so quickly.
    Also, the light I mounted in my daughters truck is a Strion that I found in the middle of the road. Tube dented and beaten up so badly from being run over multiple times that I almost need pliers to open it. Got her a charger for it and it runs like a champ on the battery that was in it.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I'm bummed the light failed quickly as well. And still no word from Surefire...

  • @SL1CK1307
    @SL1CK1307 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad you shared this test!

  • @robertolavarria606
    @robertolavarria606 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video! I just bought a MCH edc light and was wondering how they held up with wear and tear!

  • @erikchristopherson9700
    @erikchristopherson9700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y’all these videos are excellent! Y’all doing test like this gained you a sub and customer 👍

  • @jefftimmerman8192
    @jefftimmerman8192 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While I like the test saying they are "proven" with a sample of one is just crazy.

  • @ThePimpinluigi
    @ThePimpinluigi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Keep it up. I now turn to you guys on seeing true results on lights. Glad to see the high tier lights holding their own. As a surefire fan I am still disappointed (got a rein 2 and love it). I can’t wait to see what lights you have to test and review in the future.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Next up will be a bunch of "quick lab tests" with basic candela and lumen data. Those are faster for us to produce. The main big test next up will be rifle lights.

  • @LoveLikeaHurricane
    @LoveLikeaHurricane ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a protac 90 Streamlight and it eats battery like crazy. I literally change the battery, not use it. Then when it comes time to use it , will only last like 2 days.
    Planning on trying EDC Mch

  • @XrayMike17plus1
    @XrayMike17plus1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which MCH did you test? EDC or HC? Single or dual output? Just got the EDC Single. Since it is 1400 lumens vs 1100 for the HC I'm curious if one gets notably hotter.

  • @flashgross
    @flashgross ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Modlite lover was having a hard time dealing with the test results.

  • @asvabwaiver5749
    @asvabwaiver5749 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love to see a video testing the durability of wel tools T8 plus tac.

  • @CalzaTheFox
    @CalzaTheFox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These tests are fun to watch.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's one of my biggest goals... we have the data now we need to make it FUN!

  • @Jaezxc69
    @Jaezxc69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solarforce is also a tough durable flashlight, bad thing is they're gone in the business for about 5 years, they are collector's item already. Good thing is I have Solarforce flashlights.

  • @joncampo1627
    @joncampo1627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve never seen anyone have problems with surefire as much as you guys. I used mine as a hammer a few months ago and in fact just this morning it fell out of my pocket at work 60 feet in the air onto concrete and it functions no problem. The other 2 handhelds, 5 pistol mounted, 6 rifle mounted, and 1 helmet mounted ones have had 0 issues as well. I’ve owned several steam lights, over half failed from very light general use. Modlite I’ve seen break from from a 3 foot drop. No experience with cloud defensive. I just can’t believe the anti-surefire cult.

  • @BigDaddy-jo8ig
    @BigDaddy-jo8ig 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent videos of the lights I'm a subscriber now

  • @js8828
    @js8828 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am curious if a different sure fire tail cap one of them that has a less expensive button would have done better in the drop test and if the light would have worked with a different tail cap afterwards

  • @marcadriano4568
    @marcadriano4568 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quality content as always

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your positive feedback!

  • @cpkk1968
    @cpkk1968 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about testing the Weltool T17?

  • @kenstirling5348
    @kenstirling5348 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think it would be fun to throw in like a cheap hardware store light in a test like this just to see if it lasts anywhere close to the big dogs

  • @metallicarockacion
    @metallicarockacion 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video guys

  • @jamescook9833
    @jamescook9833 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where are the Elzetta lights

  • @danishfawaz2598
    @danishfawaz2598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Streamlights are the best value

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely a solid light at a reasonable price!

  • @the_rebel_sniper104
    @the_rebel_sniper104 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see the rifle lights from each of these companies put through this test. The only question remains 1.0 or 2.0 for the cloud

  • @Taras-Nabad
    @Taras-Nabad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoyed this video.

  • @cameron3525
    @cameron3525 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this channel

  • @codysavoie2898
    @codysavoie2898 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What light would be the top pick ?

  • @WvMnts
    @WvMnts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for great content. I’m so lost as what to buy lol. I’ve watched several videos. I would like something interchangeable between pistol and rifles. Was looking at cloud bc of the warranty but I don’t see a pistol light. Modlite seems to have a selection of heads. I dunno lol

  • @youreright7534
    @youreright7534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never felt better about having my MCH. Cloud has the best r&d, CS, and are the brightest, best battery life, and the most durable.

    • @postingwhateveriwant
      @postingwhateveriwant ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you watched the feature comparison video? Modlite has more candela (I say this as someone who owns both).

    • @youreright7534
      @youreright7534 ปีที่แล้ว

      @postingwhateveriwant more candela but less lumens. Also absolute garbage spread. Candela is NOT everything, very very far from it. If candela was that important, both companies would be selling only lep lights

  • @linternasmx
    @linternasmx ปีที่แล้ว

    Frezee lights? Drive over them? Are it what you want a flaslight? Regards.

  • @4RunnerRigatoni
    @4RunnerRigatoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please look into Atibal Illumination. They have 2 different heads as well as bodies/complete lights. I would love to see your tests on these. They claim 700 lumens and 90k candela on their AI-2 head. Their AI-1 head is rated for 335 lumens and 200k candela.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have a ton of content in the "Werkz". I have had one of their LEP heads in house for a long time; just haven't tested it. 200k candela would be shocking.

    • @4RunnerRigatoni
      @4RunnerRigatoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WerkzHolsters awesome I'm looking forward to it. I agree 200k candela be wild. They have a video of them doing a 960 yard shots with it, so it's definitely gotta be up there in candella. Which makes me even more curious.

  • @69newportking
    @69newportking ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gald I got that streamlight now lol

  • @derekburks953
    @derekburks953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    will you guys be making belt holsters for the handhelds?

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We do for the Modlite werkz.com/c7nnmlgen2a.html and for an Olight werkz.com/c7nnols3a.html are you looking for another one in particular?

  • @mr.anderson910
    @mr.anderson910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Review modlites new Hog hand held flashlight please

  • @sofloflow
    @sofloflow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Ill stick to my Streamlights.

    • @falcoslyviper
      @falcoslyviper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Best bang for your buck lights out there. Unless people need the candela of an MCH or Modlite, I always tell them to save their money and get a Pro-Tac.

    • @ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΑΣ
      @ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΑΣ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but streamlights are made in china these days not in the u.s any more.

    • @harisyoung4110
      @harisyoung4110 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΑΣ So why if its made in china ? even your surefire led emitter come from china.

    • @ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΑΣ
      @ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΑΣ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harisyoung4110 Because china doesn't have durable metals that's why unless they keep the good materials for themselves and export the garbage to the rest of the world.

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΑΣStreamlight and Surefire both use components sourced from China. You’re not winning any patriotism awards buying either so buy the one that’s demonstrability higher quality.

  • @keelansarnecki
    @keelansarnecki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ever find out why the surefire failed? I have a surefire fury and it only lasted two years on patrol before the led burned itself out. It still runs but just at a lower output

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't have that data yet, but I'll pin a comment if / when I have an answer for you.

    • @CMH_1975
      @CMH_1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Send it back. I have a Surfire Fury Duel Fuel and the Intellibeam version. Both have been rock solid.

    • @keelansarnecki
      @keelansarnecki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CMH_1975 I did and they fixed the led which had burned out. But it now has a tail cap issue and will flicker when on either mode. First issue I have ever had with a surefire, but when I google the fury intellibeam it seems that it has a few issues. Ended up grabbing a cloud mch to replace it as my primary for work and will be sending the surefire back for more repairs.

    • @CMH_1975
      @CMH_1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keelansarnecki that sucks. Sorry to hear that. I have several Surefire handheld flashlights and a few weapon lights and haven't had any issues. I know if I do, they'll fix or replace it. Good luck.

  • @rifleshooterchannel208
    @rifleshooterchannel208 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surefire: The EOTech of Flashlights

  • @danieljackson5043
    @danieljackson5043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d like to see a head to head against flash lights by the same brand like streamlights multiple different handheld lights

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the idea... I have a lot of lights to get through!

  • @danielguadian2716
    @danielguadian2716 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 4 CD lights. Expensive, but extremely satisfied with them...

  • @brucer1705
    @brucer1705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can I get the cloud defense after the video

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All the lights are definitely "battleworn" after these tests! But I think I'm going to hold on to them...

    • @turojones3011
      @turojones3011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah bud you’re gonna have to buy your own

    • @brucer1705
      @brucer1705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      plz. no bully.

  • @subaruforester5062
    @subaruforester5062 ปีที่แล้ว

    Add the olight warrior x3 and test the new mch

  • @jaredandrews379
    @jaredandrews379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if you want a good dust test, hit up a farmer and help him clean out a grain bin lol dust has killed multiple phones on our farm

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We have lots of those here on the Palouse! I guess I could also strap the lights in my tractor when I'm using the brush hog, or on the dozer when I'm moving dirt... good idea!

  • @fredboudreaux9663
    @fredboudreaux9663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info

  • @jpro132
    @jpro132 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need anew EDC as my current Streamlight ProTac 1L-1AA is several years old and getting really beat up from rolling around on the ground and being dropped at least once a week. Also the clip just annoys the crap out of me since it just clips itself to the light body and pulls off with barely any force as well as it's a double sided clip for hats. I hate those things, completely worthless, nobody clips a heavy ass light to their hat because the hat just falls off from the weight. Anyways, I was looking seriously at the Cloud Defensive but the price was the only real drawback considering my lights get beat up, the current one is probably 10% bare aluminum at this point. But after seeing this video I'm just going to stick with Streamlight, rugged, dependable and way cheaper in price so no reason to go to anything else.

  • @hebrewhooligan5462
    @hebrewhooligan5462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So we're those the weapon mount body's? Or the handheld. I probably shouldn't have watched this lol. I have had a Surefire DF600 for about 2 years and I am getting my delivery of $500 worth of modlite stuff today.

  • @jordanfurman1997
    @jordanfurman1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t have a Ar Light, but I Got a Streamlight TLR-1 on my Glock and I’ve put it on my Ar before and it was Pretty Fuckin Bright!

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The TLR-1HL is one of my favorite lights!

  • @xrazx1269
    @xrazx1269 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    tajam bersinar...

  • @bpgsontz1072
    @bpgsontz1072 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a surefire 😢

  • @馬梓紘
    @馬梓紘 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Want to see some tests of weltool light.

  • @danielguadian2716
    @danielguadian2716 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good work. Realistic. Subbed....

  • @jklop7841
    @jklop7841 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time I watch your videos I think that the expensive lights really are not worth it. For me at least.

  • @llamacebu216
    @llamacebu216 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Used the streamlight micro for years until the clip started to get lose and it eventually fell out of my pocket.
    People complaining about candelas or lumens need to understand its not about lumens when it comes to LEDs.
    LEDs are completely inaccurate when it comes to Lumens
    My micro streamlight with 250 lumens was stronger than most 1000 lumens

  • @arnaldobertoli9566
    @arnaldobertoli9566 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a surefire last week 😒

  • @Mototardpaul
    @Mototardpaul ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I was gunna upgrade all my Streamlights to surefire, now I’m a little concerned it’s a downgrade tbh.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  ปีที่แล้ว

      Streamlights consistently test out well for us. Quality is always at or near the top, and many LE departments rely upon them. I appreciate Surefire as well, so I was surprised with the failure in this testing.

  • @Stealther
    @Stealther 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love your channel but hate premiere's unless you are going to be livestreaming. Just another thing showing up on my timeline that I can't watch.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the feedback! Question: If we were to do a livestream, what would you want to see? Light testing? Something else?

    • @Stealther
      @Stealther 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@WerkzHolsters I’m not sure how many would tune in for a live light test. Your videos do a good job with that. Maybe a AMA livestream would be something that people would show up for. Personally I watch TH-cam when I have free time. There are very few instances where I would make specific time in my schedule just to watch a prerecorded video, ya know?
      The problem with these premieres is that there is no value added for watching at a specific time versus watching when it’s convenient for you.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Stealther I think the only value is in live interaction while watching with me. But yes, your points are well taken. Thanks much for the feedback!

  • @subaruforester5062
    @subaruforester5062 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cloud defensive sucks ass.
    Long story short I had a mch hc edc and mch duty. Every light flickered. It's a huge problem in their fb page group. 3 posts daily about their light flickering. Cloud kept sending out tail caps. That was just a bandaid to a bigger design flaw in their lights. 2 months later they would flicker again.
    Funny I was on a call clearing a house with 2 other officers. I had to stop and fart arohmd with the duty light to get it to stop flickering. Had to unscrew it take the battery out and fart around to get it to not flicker anymore.
    That was the last straw for me. I got all new tail caps and sold the lights off. That's whete I draw the line. Been a flashlight enthusiast for years and none of my other lights do this. Something to do with the battery not making full contact in the light there for the flicker. I believe the batteries are too short. They need to figure their crap out

  • @MrTnn26
    @MrTnn26 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cloud Defensive MCH rated at 100ft/24hrs.

    • @uwu-i3v
      @uwu-i3v ปีที่แล้ว

      WTF😮

  • @user-vc5rp7nf8f
    @user-vc5rp7nf8f 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    damn, surefire busted after 2 drops?! isn't it supposed to be a military/weapons light made in the usa? wtf. i also saw another vid of a surefire that stopped working after one upwards toss. if it's gonna be that cheap they really shouldn't be charging so much for their lights, they're crazy expensive.

  • @ellissmithjr6599
    @ellissmithjr6599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoughts on the Nightstick?

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nightstick makes solid products. We do have some reviews of them in our channel.

  • @ofcrwoof6308
    @ofcrwoof6308 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any word from surefire? Rather bizarre they wouldn't get back to you.

  • @Jaezxc69
    @Jaezxc69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, newer Surefire flashlights are not as reliable as the older Surefire flashlights.

  • @dancruze
    @dancruze ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a very scientific test but still intersting to see.

  • @BigDaddy-jo8ig
    @BigDaddy-jo8ig 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im a streamlight kinda guy there on all my stuff

  • @lamhro8036
    @lamhro8036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do olight

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll get Olight into the queue for testing!

    • @subaruforester5062
      @subaruforester5062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WerkzHolsters any updates?

  • @illestdomer2005
    @illestdomer2005 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still think SureFire products are for clout only. I would prefer to buy American, but the prices SF charges just makes them low value to a non-US govt purchaser.

  • @subaruforester5062
    @subaruforester5062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Throw in a olight warrior x3

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll be taking some data on the Warrior 3S today (yes I know not quite the same) and video should be published soon.

    • @subaruforester5062
      @subaruforester5062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WerkzHolsters I'd like to see olights matched up vs these usa made lights. Just for fun.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@subaruforester5062 We publish all the data... and eventually we'll build a page with things consolidated as well for easy comparison.

  • @boygonewhoopdataZZ
    @boygonewhoopdataZZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fenix beats all 😂

  • @jgross1991
    @jgross1991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weep Surefire boys 😂

  • @wonkachocolates6133
    @wonkachocolates6133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'Pre-Cog' is guessing the Surefire survived the test and won over the competition.

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'll be interested to hear what you think after you watch the results!

    • @wonkachocolates6133
      @wonkachocolates6133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WerkzHolsters Honestly, I had a good laugh when the Surefire failed and realized that most of the cost of a Surefire must surely be in its sales ads. For me, this test gave a new perspectives on quality and durability. THUMBS UP on the video..!!

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wonkachocolates6133 If / when I get definitive data on the Surefire, I'll pin a comment.

  • @yeetee2781
    @yeetee2781 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surefire is the most expensive and failed first. Thats sad lol

  • @timowens7214
    @timowens7214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plz no jokes about being dented in the rear 🤣

    • @WerkzHolsters
      @WerkzHolsters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just trying to keep it "light" (pun intended). 8p

  • @jackdangers3292
    @jackdangers3292 ปีที่แล้ว

    STREAMLIGHT LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @fackeyutub-emael6545
    @fackeyutub-emael6545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They werkz no longer

  • @rikt1541
    @rikt1541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    surefire money goes to bribing government officials instead of theyre flashlights😂