This! It's easy to try to push yourselves but remember that the most efficient way to build muscle memory is during the rest period when you take a break. be that going to bed or even doing something else. Lets get this bread Mishima Bros.
One of my favourite drills is actually stepping jab into EWGF punish. The setup is: * Set opponent to block all * Set opponent to punish on block * Set the punish move to 10f jab Now every time the opponent blocks an attack from you, they will always respond with a 10f jab (the fastest move). At high level, this (and dick jabs) will mostly be used to jab check and interrupt strings in neutral. So it's actually quite useful to learn the timings to step and punish the fastest move in the game. The drill is simply: * Jab * Sidestep * EWGF If done correctly, you'll avoid the jab with sidestep and you'll hit EWGF if you're fast enough. Too fast and you get clipped by the jab, too slow and the EWGF gets blocked.
This is a decent drill, but it’s better to set the punish option to common 10 frame strings. Strings track in Tekken 8, so side step electric only beats a single jab but loses to the string. Training vs the string lets you visually react to the whiff of the move whilst helping you to recognise where strings end.
There is a 3rd way of doing EWGF, which is skipping the neutral entirely and going for f, d, df+2. The trick of trying to press 2 at the same time as down input while your thumb sweeps upwards for df input works well with this method, for faster inputs
@@hotgoblin2258 the ps5 controller is out there making me feel miserable. I barely had any issue with the ps4 controller, but the ps5 d-pad is horrendous
Thank you lets go REINA ARMY. I have a leverless and can hit 2 electrics in a row about 90% rate, but 3 in a row is a little more tough for me since that's when I usually drop. I'm still practicing every day though so I'll utilize this guide
ok long story, sorry in advance. picked up tekken 8, first tekken/fighter ever. chose reina, got hardstuck fairly fast, couldn't seem to get better, tryed king and dragunov, made it up to shinryu, stuck there. was always intruiged by mishima's, mostly jin at this point (love devilster). your videos are pure gold, i love you. i will drill this with jin every day now until i can get clean electrics
I definitely struggle with punishing -15 with EWGF. I seem to do the other techniques with 70% efficiency but punishing with EWGF is like 20% successful for me
These drills are really helpful, I was chaining 2 last night now I'm able to hit 4 but I did once tho hitting 3 was 3/4 tries, ty so much and yes my Mishima complex grows with every chain
Nice drill. I’ll give them a shot thank you. Right now I’m doing wave dash>sidestep>electric, Kazuya 3,1 cancel into electric and 3,1 cancel>wave dash>electric
The turning point for me came when I realized that mashing the buttons as hard is I could had nothing to do with the success of doing the move. Once I changed that I was finally focused on what my hands were actually doing and I finally got a more than 70% execution in practice. I see now that this is more finesse and execution than anything.
When training block punishment, I have found it is very helpful to intentionally try to hit the block instead of getting the hit. I set the dummy to use -14 or 15 and aim to force them to block. As I get more comfortable doing that, I start scoring punishes without even trying to speed up. It works. I Repeat the mantra; hit the block, not the punish.
@@mrpotato7734 oh, I mean that when I am practicing, I aim to (instead of getting a hit in the punish window) take a few extra frames to make sure my execution is perfect, so the electric comes out cleanly, which results in the bot blocking the punish. I practice that for a while, and soon enough, I start getting the punish without trying to do it faster. I hope that makes more sense
One drill I like to do is a long form consistency drill, especially when you're first starting as it helps you note your progress as even 1 EWGF can take time for a fresh beginner. Do 30 in a row and see how many attempts are electrics. Even if you feel like you're going nowhere in terms of getting 5 in a row, seeing yourself going from 2/30 to 6/30 feels amazing to see and saves people from giving up.
Very important to note: you DON'T have to use Electrics with Reina as a baseline. Reina is arguably the least reliant on it aside from regular Jin. You can play and learn her regularly w/o needing to pick up EWGF right away. This is just a PSA so people don't get intimidated by the execution barrier for it; Reina has plenty strong of a toolkit already. Electrics just add a strong dimension to it. I recommend playing her and practicing it on the side until you're comfortable using it in real matches
I have been practicing on and off with this character, the moment he said think about pressing two at the same time as is down I immediately got it!! 😮😅
With Reina i think it is very beneficial to learn electric out of 1+4. 1+4 will allow you to duck highs and even jabs at -9 (Reina is often at -8 or-9. Try df11, b4 and on block 1+4 df+2. This sequence takes away your opponents turn if they try to retaliate with a high which you can replicate trough the punishment option in training). To perform an electric you need to input df+2 after the animation of 1+4 has ended. This will allow hard callouts and explosive damage. Also out of 1+4 the df+2 does not have to be executed on the exact same frame. I think you have a frame of leniency. You can also be sloppy and press d or f before df because the stance will only register df and go into a crouch dash from there.
Watched your guide a week ago and after drilling at least one hour a day with Kazuya im hitting that shit now, nephew! Thank you! Also, I want to say i switched to Jin to bs with during the drilling, and hitting EWGF with him felt easier and more natural. Went back to Kaz, and it helped me so much! Yall dont give up. This my first Tekken game ever and its really all about the training 🗣💯
I'm using a stick and I found out that pressing 2 right as my stick is released into neutral (since my finger needs some travel time to hit 2) is the sweet spot for electrics. Also, I found doing electrics from the p2 side much easier. Thought I'd drop this here for stick players
On Pad i found it easier if you do the inputs with one hand. I mapped 2 to L1 instead of Triangle & i can do EWGFs more consistently. Yet my Hand hurts faster after a certain time :D
The man himself strikes again, not a wave dashing guide but close enough. Thanks for keeping my head straight cuz man jack and paul been making me hover that unistall button
@BigDaddyWes this is such a hard step for me man. Every time I lose and think "man I could've KILLED this guy if I was running my main" I get frustrated and want to give up
Great video again! One tip i want to share that raised my consistency of getting out electrics is setting L1/L2 to 2+3 the logic being it's easier to press 2 buttons at the same time with the same hand then trying to get them with 2 hands.
for reina specifically, she has a crouch stance with 1+3. if you hit df it goes into a wind god step, allowing you to perform an electric (fist or thunder god kick) with only df +2/df+3 if your timing is right. the 1+3 stance also allows you to perform ALL while rising moves because it counts as a crouching state. i would highly suggest reina players to make use of that stance as your go to option for ducking moves (still make use of db for crouch blocking) since you have way more punish options out of that stance. for drills, i usually have characters perform high moves or strings that include highs to learn the timing of when i'm allowed to duck, then i try to punish with an electric. hopefully this helps!
Holyyyyyyyy Shitttt the quality of this guide! I hope that you blow up in future. You definitely stand out among Tekken teachers. You, Sire, have become one of my favourite tutors in Tekken. Looking forward to more tutorials! And the best part is you don't waste time & get the point across crystal clear! Keep up the good work !!! PS:- How come Reina has a PEWGF ??! Does she have mist step too ??? On another note, can Devil Jin PEWGF ???
When we have low success rate, doesnt we built muscle memory on the failure? Is there ways to actively ensuring your muscle memory remember the right thing?
My advice is also to practice EWGF on Jin or DevilJin as they dont have PEWGF input. So you cant cheat one with Reina or Kazuya. And EWGF is kinda crucial to do from wave dashes and such. I have my PEWGF nailed down pretty easily but because i cant do reliay EWGF my use is kinda limited.
You can also perform a PEWGF with f d df+2 as long as there is no neutral and down is followed by df+2 in 1 frame. I've hit pewgf combos with this on Reina
While possible, I think it's harder to do than f, n, df2 because it requires perfect frames in 2 inputs: * Just frame release of f * Just frame input of d And both these just frame events need to happen at the same moment.
I‘ll tattoo a QR code with that video link on my forearm if I ever go to practice, I can immediately start tracking my wavedashes and EWGF training regime
Thankyou for the tutorial really help me a lot as a keyboard player, when i do practice drill i realize i have a broken switch on my keyboard 😂, no wonder sometimes electric doesn't come out
I've been playing since T6 and only am finally getting comfortable landing consistent electrics. working on my electric spam combos with devil jin because theyre funny and satisfying. my biggest struggle is wavedashing and wavedash electric. i can do sidestep and backstep electrics but wavedashing is my ultimate struggle rn.
My tip, as a keyboard player is to learn EWGF the right way first. At the beginning of my Reina journey I would do perfect electrics without the down input, which is rather easy on keyboard, but had to relearn everything because you can't skip the down input when doing the dash EWGF, which would make your do df2 launcher instead.
Is it my imagination, or EWGF and EWGK has different timings? It is like I have to press df 3 later for just frame property than df 2 for EWGF... Same hand motion but different attack button and it is just one frame later and whole thing goes appart.
@@MishimaComplex no, im literalily have to move finger sower, or it will be unsokyu stance or not frame perfect version... Spend whole evening testing this...
Unsoku happens when you hit F,n,D+3. It’s the same common error timing as getting D2 instead of electric. Look at command history if you wanna see the frame timing 👍
@@MishimaComplex Yeah, but hand motion is exactly the same as for EWGF, and I can do EWGF with same hand motion. If i start doing only EWGF - it is fine, but if i switch between EWGF and EWEGK - only EWGF working ut kick is non frame perfect....
i find the pewg to be alot easier, so would i be hindering myself if i choose to do pewg instead of normal ewgf for this drill? im a newbv so this may be a dumb question
Been practicing for 80 hours and I'm still terrible, although I have a decent success rate on pewgf but I cant wavedash quickly on left side at all even though that's supposed to be my "strong" side where my electrics are quicker and more consistent. On right side my wavedashes are fairly quick (at least to my standards) but I'm slower on electrics and consistency. Being a beginner mishima player is a painful adventure but so satisfying when you hit the move you've been struggling with
While i have finally got the hang of the button timing, i am currently struggling with 2 things: the motion input is not very precise, sometimes i get 2 df or 2 downs and my timing goes to waste, and how to do even a single electric after hitting a launching move (i don't understand the buffer in t8 very much). Can anyone help me?
I'm not fully convinced it's a true just frame. It's always been purported to be one but I'm WAY too consistent with it. I've had a lot of practice, sure, but like I can't do a JFSR with Hwo or a OTGF with Heihachi (well...not until this game, anyway, since the ETGF seems to be the same input timing as an EWGF unless there's a gold spark ETGF that relies on true OTGF-level precision) and shouldn't those abide by the same condition if it's really so precise? Is it just a different frame or (as I suspect) is the EWGF buffer actually wider than 1 frame?
In the -13 punish drills, I see the input says that you're holding forward for 3 frames. That means you're starting it before blockstun ends and releasing it after the stun ends, right? Is that on purpose (easier to do?) ?
I stumbled upon something odd. If I just press F to go into the step and then press only D2, while pressing the D button on the right edge, the controller seems to recognise the DF input without really inputting it. The Electric happens pretty consistently this way. And F D2 is way more easy to execute than F, D, DF2… Has someone else tested this out or has an explanation for me?
@@MishimaComplexCame back after playing this video multiple times while labbing like a madman!! Did my first electric while my eyes was on your video. I then tried pulling it off again but took some time before the second. Then the consistency window got closer with messes in between until I first did 3 in a row. Still trying master been consistent untill I can do at least 5. I'm getting more comfortable on stick as well but may still take time to get use to input commands fluidly. Thanks to you I am improving though.
Are sliding the down forward like a street fighter combo, or pressing 3 inputs at once (down, forward, 2)? I do the latter and it mostly works. Is that what everyone does?
As a Reina player, is it important to learn the classic electric input or is learning her "mist step" electric (f, n df2 and skipping down) fine too? This is for REGULAR ELECTRIC like shown in the video, I'm not at the level where I need to think about perfect electrics yet. I've been poking around and its unclear if mist step electric has any disadvantages compared to classic, or if its just preference.
It's useful to learn the classic one for getting the dash electric and wavedash electric right. Also if you're always doing the "short" version, you won't have it available as a punish at longer distances. I do find the traditional electric way harder tho, playing on pad I'm having a lot of difficulty with the timing
dont forget breaks
care your hands
This! It's easy to try to push yourselves but remember that the most efficient way to build muscle memory is during the rest period when you take a break. be that going to bed or even doing something else. Lets get this bread Mishima Bros.
My thumbs be sore 😂
dont forget to train the other side aswell
One of my favourite drills is actually stepping jab into EWGF punish.
The setup is:
* Set opponent to block all
* Set opponent to punish on block
* Set the punish move to 10f jab
Now every time the opponent blocks an attack from you, they will always respond with a 10f jab (the fastest move). At high level, this (and dick jabs) will mostly be used to jab check and interrupt strings in neutral. So it's actually quite useful to learn the timings to step and punish the fastest move in the game.
The drill is simply:
* Jab
* Sidestep
* EWGF
If done correctly, you'll avoid the jab with sidestep and you'll hit EWGF if you're fast enough. Too fast and you get clipped by the jab, too slow and the EWGF gets blocked.
that's sick I might try that
Thanks 🙏
This is a decent drill, but it’s better to set the punish option to common 10 frame strings. Strings track in Tekken 8, so side step electric only beats a single jab but loses to the string. Training vs the string lets you visually react to the whiff of the move whilst helping you to recognise where strings end.
Thanks so much, very helpful even now
2:10 "make you look like a sweaty mishima player"
You got me there 😅
Keep it up man, love the humor!
im not even a Mishima player and that would motivate me to practice it. It just looks so fun. Great Video Series!
And don't forget to practice all this in both sides.. 😂😂
this is the saddest part
Man I’m not even gonna attempt to do this on the right side
my left side: 90%
my right side: 10% LOL
There is so much truth to this. And with Mishima's it's a requirement
tbh this might be something you can save for advanced training or later, i've never done this and have consistent electrics on either side mostly
There is a 3rd way of doing EWGF, which is skipping the neutral entirely and going for f, d, df+2. The trick of trying to press 2 at the same time as down input while your thumb sweeps upwards for df input works well with this method, for faster inputs
I always do this in order to get EWGF
This help me but my goodness it's hard with a PS5 controller lol
@@hotgoblin2258 You poor soul, get yourself something better for your own sake
@@hotgoblin2258 the ps5 controller is out there making me feel miserable. I barely had any issue with the ps4 controller, but the ps5 d-pad is horrendous
Im Suffering bad on ps5
Thank you lets go REINA ARMY. I have a leverless and can hit 2 electrics in a row about 90% rate, but 3 in a row is a little more tough for me since that's when I usually drop. I'm still practicing every day though so I'll utilize this guide
YES keep at it, practice makes perfect. it's a bit harder to hit consistent electrics on pad but I'm getting there.
How's it going? Did you learn how to punish EWGF? How long did it take you?
I was waiting for this definitive mishima complex ewgf guide. Great work as always. Thank you very much
ok long story, sorry in advance. picked up tekken 8, first tekken/fighter ever. chose reina, got hardstuck fairly fast, couldn't seem to get better, tryed king and dragunov, made it up to shinryu, stuck there. was always intruiged by mishima's, mostly jin at this point (love devilster). your videos are pure gold, i love you. i will drill this with jin every day now until i can get clean electrics
I definitely struggle with punishing -15 with EWGF. I seem to do the other techniques with 70% efficiency but punishing with EWGF is like 20% successful for me
Yep it’s one of the hardest things to do, keep at it, so satisfying when you do it! 👊
That tip about hitting 2 at the same time you're hitting down really helped me out, I can now do 3 EWGFs in a row.
I'm so grateful i came across your channel. I'm slowly but surely getting better playing with Reina, she's really fun🔥
I'm a Miguel loyalist who is trying Reina for Tekken 8 and this channel has been a godsend. Keep up the amazing work 💪
These drills are really helpful, I was chaining 2 last night now I'm able to hit 4 but I did once tho hitting 3 was 3/4 tries, ty so much and yes my Mishima complex grows with every chain
Ayy good shit man 👊👊
Nice drill. I’ll give them a shot thank you. Right now I’m doing wave dash>sidestep>electric, Kazuya 3,1 cancel into electric and 3,1 cancel>wave dash>electric
The turning point for me came when I realized that mashing the buttons as hard is I could had nothing to do with the success of doing the move. Once I changed that I was finally focused on what my hands were actually doing and I finally got a more than 70% execution in practice. I see now that this is more finesse and execution than anything.
Just discovered your channel amazing how you go deeper on some concepts and show us example. Keep going stuff like this i swear
When training block punishment, I have found it is very helpful to intentionally try to hit the block instead of getting the hit. I set the dummy to use -14 or 15 and aim to force them to block. As I get more comfortable doing that, I start scoring punishes without even trying to speed up. It works. I Repeat the mantra; hit the block, not the punish.
Can you explain what is try to hit the block? I don't quite get you
@@mrpotato7734 oh, I mean that when I am practicing, I aim to (instead of getting a hit in the punish window) take a few extra frames to make sure my execution is perfect, so the electric comes out cleanly, which results in the bot blocking the punish. I practice that for a while, and soon enough, I start getting the punish without trying to do it faster. I hope that makes more sense
One drill I like to do is a long form consistency drill, especially when you're first starting as it helps you note your progress as even 1 EWGF can take time for a fresh beginner.
Do 30 in a row and see how many attempts are electrics.
Even if you feel like you're going nowhere in terms of getting 5 in a row, seeing yourself going from 2/30 to 6/30 feels amazing to see and saves people from giving up.
Very important to note: you DON'T have to use Electrics with Reina as a baseline. Reina is arguably the least reliant on it aside from regular Jin. You can play and learn her regularly w/o needing to pick up EWGF right away.
This is just a PSA so people don't get intimidated by the execution barrier for it; Reina has plenty strong of a toolkit already. Electrics just add a strong dimension to it. I recommend playing her and practicing it on the side until you're comfortable using it in real matches
I have been practicing on and off with this character, the moment he said think about pressing two at the same time as is down I immediately got it!! 😮😅
With Reina i think it is very beneficial to learn electric out of 1+4. 1+4 will allow you to duck highs and even jabs at -9 (Reina is often at -8 or-9. Try df11, b4 and on block 1+4 df+2. This sequence takes away your opponents turn if they try to retaliate with a high which you can replicate trough the punishment option in training).
To perform an electric you need to input df+2 after the animation of 1+4 has ended. This will allow hard callouts and explosive damage. Also out of 1+4 the df+2 does not have to be executed on the exact same frame. I think you have a frame of leniency. You can also be sloppy and press d or f before df because the stance will only register df and go into a crouch dash from there.
0:53, this was very helpful to me, it made my electrics much more consistent (not 10 out of 10, but it will come with practice I believe)
Doing EWGF in matches so enjoyable! I hope this video help me do it a lot better. Thanks.
Watched your guide a week ago and after drilling at least one hour a day with Kazuya im hitting that shit now, nephew! Thank you! Also, I want to say i switched to Jin to bs with during the drilling, and hitting EWGF with him felt easier and more natural. Went back to Kaz, and it helped me so much! Yall dont give up. This my first Tekken game ever and its really all about the training 🗣💯
I'm using a stick and I found out that pressing 2 right as my stick is released into neutral (since my finger needs some travel time to hit 2) is the sweet spot for electrics. Also, I found doing electrics from the p2 side much easier.
Thought I'd drop this here for stick players
Thank you so much for the drills, most practical channel ever.
On Pad i found it easier if you do the inputs with one hand.
I mapped 2 to L1 instead of Triangle & i can do EWGFs more consistently.
Yet my Hand hurts faster after a certain time :D
The man himself strikes again, not a wave dashing guide but close enough. Thanks for keeping my head straight cuz man jack and paul been making me hover that unistall button
Get comfortable losing.
@BigDaddyWes this is such a hard step for me man. Every time I lose and think "man I could've KILLED this guy if I was running my main" I get frustrated and want to give up
Great video again!
One tip i want to share that raised my consistency of getting out electrics is setting L1/L2 to 2+3 the logic being it's easier to press 2 buttons at the same time with the same hand then trying to get them with 2 hands.
i'm also doing this and can confirm it helps a lot in being consistent!
The Mishima agenda will flourish with this
for reina specifically, she has a crouch stance with 1+3. if you hit df it goes into a wind god step, allowing you to perform an electric (fist or thunder god kick) with only df +2/df+3 if your timing is right.
the 1+3 stance also allows you to perform ALL while rising moves because it counts as a crouching state. i would highly suggest reina players to make use of that stance as your go to option for ducking moves (still make use of db for crouch blocking) since you have way more punish options out of that stance.
for drills, i usually have characters perform high moves or strings that include highs to learn the timing of when i'm allowed to duck, then i try to punish with an electric.
hopefully this helps!
Pressing the 2 when hitting dows is such a simple game changer lol wtf thx
This is exactly what I've been looking for. Great guide! Thank you.
This guide is super helpful for kazuya mains
Love the drills! It's nice to have something concrete to work on when warming up
It was this video... that made me realize that I'll never be good at Tekken
U good yet?
I just got fujin with Claudio, ewgf is not that important in this game😊 just try your best!
You know what, most of us will never be the best but we can at least learn to be better than most and have fun while playing
You get the electric down?
@jimmygudiel3007 Learning egwf is not fun. We have to admit that
Holyyyyyyyy Shitttt the quality of this guide! I hope that you blow up in future. You definitely stand out among Tekken teachers. You, Sire, have become one of my favourite tutors in Tekken. Looking forward to more tutorials! And the best part is you don't waste time & get the point across crystal clear! Keep up the good work !!!
PS:- How come Reina has a PEWGF ??! Does she have mist step too ??? On another note, can Devil Jin PEWGF ???
This channel helped me be a great kaz / heiachi player in tekken 7. Super greatful for every video 😤🤝🏿
how did you know i needed a vedeo like this? best creator on this platfrom!
This is easily the best guide for this
Another amazing video from Mishima guy. 🤩🤩 I was in a wheelchair but, after watching this video, I can walk!
See Mishima complex guide. Auto smash like button.
Eternally grateful for your videos @MishimaComplex. Strait to the point and not to much excessive info, perfect
I love watching your content it makes me feel so motivated to learn more!
You actually made the video…Thank you so much !!
Crouch cancel electric is a good one to practice too
True! Ty for the note 🙏
@@MishimaComplex Thank you for the videos! 👊🏽
When we have low success rate, doesnt we built muscle memory on the failure? Is there ways to actively ensuring your muscle memory remember the right thing?
Damm. Love that guide. I'm a reina man and it will now be my tranning guide and warm up. Already downloading ✅️thanks for the work man👊
My advice is also to practice EWGF on Jin or DevilJin as they dont have PEWGF input. So you cant cheat one with Reina or Kazuya. And EWGF is kinda crucial to do from wave dashes and such. I have my PEWGF nailed down pretty easily but because i cant do reliay EWGF my use is kinda limited.
Another great tool for practice, my hand hurts 😂
2:32 THIS JOKE JUST BLUESCREENED MY BRAIN.
Not only is the guide great but lowkey super funny
Thank you for this!!!
You can also perform a PEWGF with f d df+2 as long as there is no neutral and down is followed by df+2 in 1 frame. I've hit pewgf combos with this on Reina
While possible, I think it's harder to do than f, n, df2 because it requires perfect frames in 2 inputs:
* Just frame release of f
* Just frame input of d
And both these just frame events need to happen at the same moment.
I‘ll tattoo a QR code with that video link on my forearm if I ever go to practice, I can immediately start tracking my wavedashes and EWGF training regime
Thankyou for the tutorial really help me a lot as a keyboard player, when i do practice drill i realize i have a broken switch on my keyboard 😂, no wonder sometimes electric doesn't come out
I've been playing since T6 and only am finally getting comfortable landing consistent electrics. working on my electric spam combos with devil jin because theyre funny and satisfying.
my biggest struggle is wavedashing and wavedash electric. i can do sidestep and backstep electrics but wavedashing is my ultimate struggle rn.
Since we are still learning, another thing to practice on both sides is KBD into EWGF
My tip, as a keyboard player is to learn EWGF the right way first. At the beginning of my Reina journey I would do perfect electrics without the down input, which is rather easy on keyboard, but had to relearn everything because you can't skip the down input when doing the dash EWGF, which would make your do df2 launcher instead.
Should we be practising with the down input as well? Can't reina perform ewgf without down?
Yes its better to do the input with D because you can't do F,n,DF2 out of wavedash/dash/running :)
Easy alt for side step EWGF for Reina, She can do Unsoku move then df+2
How safe is it tho because sidestep back into ewgf is safe
@@yoshitsune5691unsafe af because Unsoku is a stance.
I love you, and this channel. Thank you
I love you too ❤️
Brilliant guide!
Is it my imagination, or EWGF and EWGK has different timings? It is like I have to press df 3 later for just frame property than df 2 for EWGF... Same hand motion but different attack button and it is just one frame later and whole thing goes appart.
Same timing but maybe because the CD3 animation is slower it feels like the input is slower 🤔
@@MishimaComplex no, im literalily have to move finger sower, or it will be unsokyu stance or not frame perfect version... Spend whole evening testing this...
Unsoku happens when you hit F,n,D+3. It’s the same common error timing as getting D2 instead of electric. Look at command history if you wanna see the frame timing 👍
@@MishimaComplex Yeah, but hand motion is exactly the same as for EWGF, and I can do EWGF with same hand motion. If i start doing only EWGF - it is fine, but if i switch between EWGF and EWEGK - only EWGF working ut kick is non frame perfect....
remember to do the drills on P2 side too, especially on Reina you are going to sideswitch a lot
Exactly what i need
i find the pewg to be alot easier, so would i be hindering myself if i choose to do pewg instead of normal ewgf for this drill? im a newbv so this may be a dumb question
Frankly, not really
But you would still need to ewgf in situations that would benefit better for it
I'm switching from pad to arcade stick will have to learn everything from 0 but will be helpful in long run as controller limits your play.
Keep at it. You will get used to it
Here's my mindset after 100 hours of ewgf
Think of it as a lighter, you may light them up for years but not everytime you light them up at one go
for some reason it's impossible for me to do 3 electric then heat, i could do it blindfolded with kazuya in tekken 7
Will be stealing this guide, but I'll leave a like as thanks.
UPDATE: Two days later, I've just hit 5 in a row for the first time on both sides.
If u are on pad u can use 2+3, as it’s easier to time on one hand
Been practicing for 80 hours and I'm still terrible, although I have a decent success rate on pewgf but I cant wavedash quickly on left side at all even though that's supposed to be my "strong" side where my electrics are quicker and more consistent.
On right side my wavedashes are fairly quick (at least to my standards) but I'm slower on electrics and consistency.
Being a beginner mishima player is a painful adventure but so satisfying when you hit the move you've been struggling with
While i have finally got the hang of the button timing, i am currently struggling with 2 things: the motion input is not very precise, sometimes i get 2 df or 2 downs and my timing goes to waste, and how to do even a single electric after hitting a launching move (i don't understand the buffer in t8 very much). Can anyone help me?
What kind of controller You'd like to suggest? Hitbox? or just simple gamepad is sufficient?
On stick nearly a month in, I can sometimes hit 2 in a row but then none for ages lol, slow going, but hoping once I got it, I got
Ive been doing it alot more lately because im getting better at how to press certain buttons but im not consistent at all
Don't forget to practice on both sides!
I'm not fully convinced it's a true just frame. It's always been purported to be one but I'm WAY too consistent with it. I've had a lot of practice, sure, but like I can't do a JFSR with Hwo or a OTGF with Heihachi (well...not until this game, anyway, since the ETGF seems to be the same input timing as an EWGF unless there's a gold spark ETGF that relies on true OTGF-level precision) and shouldn't those abide by the same condition if it's really so precise? Is it just a different frame or (as I suspect) is the EWGF buffer actually wider than 1 frame?
So useful!
Any tips for wave dashing on controller?
In the -13 punish drills, I see the input says that you're holding forward for 3 frames. That means you're starting it before blockstun ends and releasing it after the stun ends, right? Is that on purpose (easier to do?) ?
Why can I do wave dash electrics but not black punish electrics
Hi can you please make a tutorial on how to do 2 consecutive electric. I need the timing. Because I always hit DF + 2 on the 2nd one.
Is it practical to learn electrics using the two handed method for leverless controllers?
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I stumbled upon something odd. If I just press F to go into the step and then press only D2, while pressing the D button on the right edge, the controller seems to recognise the DF input without really inputting it. The Electric happens pretty consistently this way. And F D2 is way more easy to execute than F, D, DF2…
Has someone else tested this out or has an explanation for me?
I'm still trying to master playing on arcade stick. It's even harder trying to do so on that but will get it eventually
Keep at it! Stick is heaps fun once you get the hang of it 👊
@@MishimaComplexCame back after playing this video multiple times while labbing like a madman!! Did my first electric while my eyes was on your video. I then tried pulling it off again but took some time before the second. Then the consistency window got closer with messes in between until I first did 3 in a row. Still trying master been consistent untill I can do at least 5. I'm getting more comfortable on stick as well but may still take time to get use to input commands fluidly. Thanks to you I am improving though.
Woooow....Thank you
I play on dpad and neutral in my input stays around 5-6 frames. is it real to perform faster on the dpad?
It's like I can do it for a little bit, then I drop it and I struggle to get it back up. Any tips on that?
Just can't do it lol. Been so much time in practice just can't seem to find the spot.
Are sliding the down forward like a street fighter combo, or pressing 3 inputs at once (down, forward, 2)? I do the latter and it mostly works. Is that what everyone does?
Hmm I kind of just press everything at once but because of my muscle memory the D will come first if that makes sense 👍
can the perfect electric (short version of the move) do the wave dashes?
Nope you can only do the pewgf input from standing 👍
I need to step it up on the left side, it's not cooperating my controls in pad.
Right side is easier like what the hEck.
What about perfect electric god fists
As a Reina player, is it important to learn the classic electric input or is learning her "mist step" electric (f, n df2 and skipping down) fine too? This is for REGULAR ELECTRIC like shown in the video, I'm not at the level where I need to think about perfect electrics yet. I've been poking around and its unclear if mist step electric has any disadvantages compared to classic, or if its just preference.
It's useful to learn the classic one for getting the dash electric and wavedash electric right. Also if you're always doing the "short" version, you won't have it available as a punish at longer distances. I do find the traditional electric way harder tho, playing on pad I'm having a lot of difficulty with the timing
Excellent vid, but make tips training on both sides
Tryna do this shit feels like trying to land a black flash but I’m not itadori
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