What Happens to Zenith Greyrat? Mushoku Tensei Explained

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
  • #MushokuTensei #JoblessReincarnation #anime
    In Mushoku Tensei, Zenith Greyrat is Rudeus' mother and Paul Greyrat's first wife, as well as being mother to Norn and stepmother to Aisha. After the teleportation incident turning point in the story, Zenith is so far not found in the anime, but where is she? In this video I talk about Zenith's whole life in the Mushoku Tensei series, from her upbringing and family to what happened to Zenith when everybody got teleported, and what will happen later for her. This means there will be major spoilers for Mushoku Tensei season 2 and beyond, including spoilers about Paul and Rudeus, as well as Zenith.
    You can buy the Mushoku Tensei Light Novels on Amazon in physical or digital formats - this is an affiliate link so I make a small commission if you shop for them using this link to volume 1 of the series - amzn.to/3m0WjuL
    And here's a link to get the Roxy Gets Serious spin-off manga: amzn.to/3IFZ7ap
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  • @NatalieXHunter
    @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    You can buy the Mushoku Tensei Light Novels on Amazon in physical or digital formats - this is an affiliate link so I make a small commission if you shop for them using this link to volume 1 of the series - amzn.to/3m0WjuL
    And here's a link to get the Roxy Gets Serious spin-off manga: amzn.to/3IFZ7ap

  • @kineticstar
    @kineticstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +671

    A bittersweet ending for Paul and Zenith story. Paul lost so much and tried to claw it all back just to fall at the finish line.
    The capriciousness of games the gods play with mortal lives is astounding.

    • @digivagrant
      @digivagrant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      There's no Paragon/Renegade options to give the perfect story, I guess.

    • @simonphoenix3789
      @simonphoenix3789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      I think it would have been even harder for Paul had he survived. Imagine having to live with the fact that his wife was permanently stuck in a shell like that.. that would have probably broken him completely. At least he got to die thinking that his wife was going to be saved right after.

    • @gibzbuh
      @gibzbuh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@simonphoenix3789 but imagine if paul got to live until milis kingdom arc.

    • @jackculler1489
      @jackculler1489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@simonphoenix3789 nah, if he lived, that won’t break Paul. Paul would recover at some point and come into terms with Zenith’s situation. Then Paul would be back to banging women if not… he’ll most likely Bang Lilia every night like what he use to do with Zenith. Rudeus will probably have 1-3 more sibling.

    • @evenindeathistillserve760
      @evenindeathistillserve760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrong, its only bitter, so very bitter! 😔😔

  • @dc1397
    @dc1397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +599

    I always liked how Zenith was so high on life and positive about everything. But she always seemed like an outsider even in her families. Left her mom and dad to go adventuring to live her own life. Got cheated on by Paul a few years in. Even Rudeus didn't get to be that close to her either. Half the day with Roxy and the other half with Paul. Then they show him getting on better terms with Lilia but hardly ever with Zenith. Zenith really is a great character.

    • @brandonsmith8899
      @brandonsmith8899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Yea but Rudy loves her more then anybody

    • @dc1397
      @dc1397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@brandonsmith8899 I hope you're right. I read stuff about what happened to her. But they never mention that part of his feelings towards her.

    • @brandonsmith8899
      @brandonsmith8899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@dc1397 the shows going to do there relationship true justice, once he get’s older and meet his grandmother, and people for get he took after his mother from the start with her being a magic user and not really a fighter like him. It’s going to be later in the series but you will see how unset he will get

    • @shadowblaze5558
      @shadowblaze5558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Rudeus was going to kill anyone who had a hand in his mother's kidnapping. He was ready to take on royal knights. Rudeus was the one person who never disappointed zenith

    • @kev5924
      @kev5924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@shadowblaze5558 wow finally he has the gut to kill? Damn i genuinely cant wait..

  • @Butter_Warrior99
    @Butter_Warrior99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +667

    Zenith is just a sweet heart, she's one of the few good people in the show.

    • @cgecko3
      @cgecko3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      She really is I feel so bad for her but, atleast she has her family.

    • @digivagrant
      @digivagrant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The price of Spartan kicking your religious beliefs and your husband's infidelity is becoming a vegetable.
      I was Preparing To Cry but I just ended up laughing.

    • @animelifeotaku7438
      @animelifeotaku7438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tough

    • @eddiewow4485
      @eddiewow4485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      zenith is the best wife i love how she moans

    • @Butter_Warrior99
      @Butter_Warrior99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eddiewow4485, true.

  • @heroricspiritfreinen38
    @heroricspiritfreinen38 2 ปีที่แล้ว +549

    It's so sad to think that after teleportation Paul never saw zenith again for the rest of his life...

    • @shadowblaze5558
      @shadowblaze5558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      His karma for cheating her

    • @LateBandwagon
      @LateBandwagon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@shadowblaze5558 bruh you sound young af

    • @shadowblaze5558
      @shadowblaze5558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@LateBandwagon Wish your father cheats on your mother 😏. Let's see you congratulating and siding with him 🤟

    • @madiska2702
      @madiska2702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@LateBandwagon I mean, his name is shadow blaze ,so.

    • @DanteSparda191
      @DanteSparda191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@shadowblaze5558 what a reply 😂😂😂😂

  • @darkthestickman41
    @darkthestickman41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    My man married his friend his tutor and his student what a legend

    • @agnibhamukherjee5823
      @agnibhamukherjee5823 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Technically

    • @lunarbat6009
      @lunarbat6009 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      And cousin

    • @ashinigamirises
      @ashinigamirises 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@lunarbat6009 sweet home Alabama

    • @Frazier16
      @Frazier16 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@lunarbat6009that was common back then

    • @Tugela60
      @Tugela60 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Frazier16 It is common now too 😂
      About 20% of the worlds population is married to a cousin.

  • @loganstaark9411
    @loganstaark9411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    A little bit of trivia: in Rudeus' biography in the asura kingdom's royal library, it is said that's Zenith died at the age of 69 years old

  • @DarkNorthEmperor
    @DarkNorthEmperor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    The one relationship which I wish the author wrote more about, was the relationship between Rudy and Zenith.

    • @ohyaization
      @ohyaization 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      SAME

    • @sengkimlay3269
      @sengkimlay3269 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let hope he fix it in Light novel

    • @Violet1234
      @Violet1234 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah honestly I would have wanted more Zenith and Rudy.

  • @longdragon7067
    @longdragon7067 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    As a son who lost his Father to Dementia over a period of 20 YEARS. Zeniths Story is simply horrifying to me. So happy and full of life only to be reduced to a potted plant, set in the corner for the rest of her life watching the world go by around her unable to interact with it

  • @blzz42
    @blzz42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    IMO One of the Saddest, and simultaneously most interesting aspect of mushoku tensei is the authors focus on the relationships between characters and their families. Their struggles, hardships, & tragedies, and the emphasis on the importance of family, the responsibility & uncertainty they face, and the difficulty in maintaining those bonds through difficult times. This narrative element in the story is largely what gives Mushoku Tensei a realistic feel to the readers. The story itself doesn’t explicitly spell this out, but the author explores the philosophical questions like what is a family, and what does it mean to build and maintain those relationships through vast expanses of time? How do you react in the face of tragedy and crisis, and how do you recover when death takes a parent or loved one unexpectedly. There are many archetypal themes which undergird the narrative elements of the story: like the heroes journey; the cycle of life, death, and rebirth; the archetypal story of saving your father from the depths of chaos and hell, and seeking redemption; and the eternal struggle of mankind to overcome the tyranny, and evil which manifest in the world, and in the hearts of man. Overall, it’s a very well written story and the anime has been adapted very well so far.

    • @userk2comment
      @userk2comment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You listen to the lobster man too?

    • @robertw1800
      @robertw1800 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was pretty disappointed with the last episode though. Didn't even come close to how the manga felt.

    • @sylvaindorion5235
      @sylvaindorion5235 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So realistic feel when you read that you get a panties shot of a child every page i heard...

    • @ascrysis3
      @ascrysis3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@sylvaindorion5235 The story is perverted, but its a good story. No other isekai has a more grounded story than mushoku tensei.

    • @Ryltar123
      @Ryltar123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah i like how much effeord author put in those relationships the Rudeus and Paul fight hit me hard because i got in to a fight with my father and as a result of that we didn't talk for almost 10 years.

  • @iyess666
    @iyess666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    It's sad what happens to zenith and the fact that she would not return to normal

  • @leonardoospino3497
    @leonardoospino3497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I was so sad when I realized that i would never see her Smug again :(

  • @KristopherStoltz
    @KristopherStoltz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    I love that Rudy got a special needs parent like a lot of families do, even if it was mystical. It was a nice touch that showed his life isn’t power fantasy escapism.

    • @resengan123
      @resengan123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      this was the first web novel i read from start to finish and it has probably poisoned my perception of the isekai genre. few series ive read really have characters LIVE their second lives. the mc is usually the chosen one, hero whos destined to slay the demon king, super charismatic and quickly assembles a team as is well on his way to being op by vol 1.
      then there's Rudy. hes gotta deal with anxiety ,depression, withdrawal from society and family issues. Actually work towards making a connection with others. Actual growth as a human being and not just ' mc has now gained x power '.

    • @bonjovi1354
      @bonjovi1354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The main villain is the Kami sama actually

    • @ApexGale
      @ApexGale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@bonjovi1354 Yes, but Rudeus literally cannot do anything to fight Hitogami directly. His entire life's work is actually to make it easier for the actual main character (Orsted) to beat the villain.

    • @bonjovi1354
      @bonjovi1354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ApexGale yup n it's pretty much going smoothly in anime ..awsome ep

  • @amartyobasu801
    @amartyobasu801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    When I was reading the Begaritt and Labyrinth chapters, I was surprised, how tense the atmosphere was. I don't think any other chapters are that tense. I was on edge, expecting something horribly wrong to happen on every turn. When the final set of tragedies happened, it hit really hard. It was truly exceptional writing.

  • @charlesfcopeland9756
    @charlesfcopeland9756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    One of the things I love about this anime is it relates to actual life so well. In IRL, people come and go with some influencing your life in ways that you may never fully comprehend. Family are always a

  • @andresluz3664
    @andresluz3664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    My goodness, you're pumping out videos like crazy, love the content. Be sure not to burn out

  • @nobalkain624
    @nobalkain624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I cannot imagine having your Mom right there but being unable to converse with her. He cant even help her Morn the lose of Paul or share in the joy of his Children. He cant ask her for advice or ask her what she needs/wants. All he can do most of the time is hope she is doing well and is happy. God that must be so painful at times. She is right there and yet so far away.

    • @wanaiman499
      @wanaiman499 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wdym by that? What happen to her ?? I never read ln but I dont mind getting spoiled

    • @nobalkain624
      @nobalkain624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wanaiman499 Sorry I took so long to reply. Basically she is stuck inside her own mind and is unable to communicate with anyone besides through Telepathy with Rudi and Roxies Kid, though that is limited, once she is rescued from the Labyrinth. She goes on to live with Rudius and his Family, but she cannot engage with any of them. I find her story to be the most tragic of anyone, basically the definition of 'so close, yet so far away'.

  • @nitehunter1551
    @nitehunter1551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    After the dungeon incident where Paul died and Rudeus managed to save his mother, Zenith joined a travelling circus and grew a beard where she later became known as 'The Bearded Lady.'

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You left out the bit where she marries Roxy's pet armadillo. I thought I wasn't into furry stuff until I got to that bit.

    • @nitehunter1551
      @nitehunter1551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@NatalieXHunter I didn't know you are this kinky. I like it. Lmao.

  • @edyspaulet1477
    @edyspaulet1477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    NGL if mushoku tensei receives a proper adaptation(a guarantee at this point) it will likely be the best anime of all time(or maybe joint first).
    Edit: to clarify, I have read the novel.

    • @megaavonaco9954
      @megaavonaco9954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Definitely not, but it’ll go down as one of the greatest isekai ever.

    • @irecordwithaphone1856
      @irecordwithaphone1856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Probably not best of all time but I could see it being best of isekai. It already kind of is

    • @caleb_artzs2533
      @caleb_artzs2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I personally think is going to be the next FMAB, but that's just my opinion

    • @TheS00th
      @TheS00th 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Personally think it’ll be the best anime of all time too. Especially if they include the side stories

    • @userk2comment
      @userk2comment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe not the best, but definitely one of the greats. A fine addition to the pantheon.

  • @Viborgdk
    @Viborgdk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Hearing this actually brought tears to my eyes. I guess one of the things why I love manga/anime is the fact that story's being told always feel more real. Characters that are very important and even serve as strong supportive cast, are sometimes killed or otherwise snatched from our lives. Even though entertainment is supposed to be a respit from real life, I much prefer when a story mirrors life insted. Given this story takes place over a lifetime, it would make sense there are highs and lows, just like real life. And seeing characters go through the same good and bad things in life, makes things much more compelling, at least for me. Seeing characters you care about feel the pain of a loved one's death, makes the character much more relatable on easier to sympathies with and such. Rather then having them have a huge git in life, then being okay a few pages after, I much more enjoy it when their actions mirror said sorrow or happiness or what ever it is. Makes the characters feel more real and the story more engaging. Muchoku Tensei is defiantly the kind of story where people act and react like most normal human beings would.

  • @bst6677
    @bst6677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Zenith was really proud of Rudy and she eagerly waiting for his return .so sad that all this happened to her

  • @84ganta
    @84ganta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    imo zenith is the only "true" ,thru n thru ,nice person in this story.even tho paul kinda redeems himself i still think zenith was "wasted" on him.she s by far best girl(imo always)and even tho shes (kinda) happy by the end of mushoku it still makes me really sad when i think the life she lived!

    • @matthewcarroll2533
      @matthewcarroll2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Preach!

    • @cdyn5480
      @cdyn5480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She's a Saint. same with Sylphie

    • @vogel2499
      @vogel2499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cdyn5480 Sylph have a tendency of being a push-over, unlike Zenith who (almost) has unshakable principles.

    • @curiosityzero2151
      @curiosityzero2151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cdyn5480 Sylphie isn;t that great.

  • @-Good4Y0u
    @-Good4Y0u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was a good video. You handle the spoilers well.

  • @ApexGale
    @ApexGale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    What makes Paul's death sadder is the fact that he died saving Rudeus's life. The only reason he didn't survive is because by this point in the story Rudeus is an adult, and Paul had to use all of his strength to shove him out of the way of the hydra.
    Paul may have been a shitty husband, but he was always doing his best as a father.
    And even though Rudeus tries to argue that Paul was more like a friend, he ultimately is broken over the loss of his father. He didn't even cry over the death of his first parents, but is completely devastated by Paul's passing.
    Mushoku Tensei's best theme has always been the recurring theme of friends and family. Rudeus only ever makes it as far as he does by going in the complete opposite direction of his past self and interacting with people, building meaningful connections.

  • @adolfo6547
    @adolfo6547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg deadass I needed this vid love you my guy

  • @kinghoenn3478
    @kinghoenn3478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    I always thought it odd that Rudy never asked Cliff to make a magic item to stop or at least weaken his mom's curse. If he can make something for Ordstead of all people much less his wife who was in a very similar situation. He could have done something.

    • @A_itsar
      @A_itsar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She's a miko now, it's not a curse

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      He does try to find cures for her, even asking Perugius about it, but since she doesn't seem to be cursed, it wouldn't really overlap with Cliff's research, where Orsted's issue did seem to overlap with what Cliff was researching anyway for Elinalise.

    • @caleb_artzs2533
      @caleb_artzs2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cliff doesn't specialized in medical field (Which is what Zenith thing is about) but why didn't they let the demon eye that cliff had to do it, to find a cure for her or even ask Kishirika with the problem

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Well, they already asked Perugius and he wasn't able to help, plus Elinalise who knows the most about the condition. It wasn't that they didn't try to help. Kishirika is kinda dumb, as well, they only sought her out to ask about Nanahoshi's condition because it was a disease that had once been common and she was a person Rudy knew and thought he had a chance of finding who was old enough to remember about it - she's not someone you'd usually go to for medical advice. Once they find out from the Miko what has actually happened to her they know there won't be a medical cure because she isn't actually sick or cursed.

    • @lordpvt
      @lordpvt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah

  • @user-pf1yf2lc9q
    @user-pf1yf2lc9q 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I know this is not the center point of this video, but I want to thank you for mentioning Jirou, the pet armadillo. For those who don't know - Jirou is a very BIG armadillo, they are used as beasts of burden on Begaritto continent. Cool thing about how attentive the novel to details is the fact that it took some time for Jirou to adjust to new climate of the country that Rudy lives in.
    Also, Roxy would usually ride Jirou to her work. Imagine your college professor arriving on campus riding a giant armadillo :)

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      LOL yeah Jirou is awesome!

    • @shriramvenu
      @shriramvenu ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to anglicise it it would be Dillo, since the name is short for armadillo.

  • @astablack8812
    @astablack8812 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you so much thanks for the bedtime stories!

  • @Nakama4Forever
    @Nakama4Forever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Zeniths story actually made me tear up while reading. She is the definition of moé. Must protect!

    • @nakga2player27
      @nakga2player27 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When u say reading, do u mean like "book" or manga

    • @Nakama4Forever
      @Nakama4Forever ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nakga2player27 well I read the light novel online. I was able to find it after looking for a bit. The manga hasn't gotten that far yet.

  • @zecond-js1yc
    @zecond-js1yc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally, you mad lad!you made this video. Thank you.

  • @chris41952
    @chris41952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I could listen to you read a grocery list. Keep up the great content!

  • @LionHunter832
    @LionHunter832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know i usually look into any anime questions and lore on youtube. Mushoku tensei, re zero and overlord.
    This channel has become my go to channel for mushoku tensei content.

  • @darkstone69jdr
    @darkstone69jdr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome vid great details and not to many spoilers keep up the good work

  • @OJSRT24565
    @OJSRT24565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Book 21: Chapter 10: For the House, For my Daughter is one of the best chapters I read. Honesty tear up reading it.

    • @miteigi8334
      @miteigi8334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That one really got my feelings mixed on Claire.
      She's still stupid tho

  • @apimpnamedslikbacjr.2
    @apimpnamedslikbacjr.2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video is soo much better now that they are animating the second season. I'm looking forward to seeing all of this one day. Keep up the videos I love all of your Mushoku Tensei videos 😊

  • @anthonythomas305
    @anthonythomas305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Zenith is such an hardworking and lovable mother in this series

  • @maxzhao8331
    @maxzhao8331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the background!

  • @AlexxMeitner
    @AlexxMeitner ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done. Thanks

  • @BlackKnightNoble
    @BlackKnightNoble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these videos ‼️

  • @KingBobBobBob
    @KingBobBobBob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so glad I spoiled this for myself thank you. It makes my heart happy to learn this

  • @MrBolo808
    @MrBolo808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My damn your fun to listen to friend! Very informative, sweet, Captivating, addicting and enjoyable to the point I never even notice you were giving out spoiler until it was 8 minute in🤣

  • @poppliothefox8953
    @poppliothefox8953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I feel so bad for zenith :( she one of my favorite character..

  • @yaboit3ngu763
    @yaboit3ngu763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    It’s sad to hear about Paul’s death but the series wouldn’t have much impact unless there were meaningful losses. Great video 👌

  • @KingsizeDD
    @KingsizeDD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your video! U explain evryting sooooo Easy!!!! 😁

  • @whocares0503
    @whocares0503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No long comment as many here make great ones. I am just enjoying your subject oriented recaps. Thank you and please continue!

  • @Icenflamesrush
    @Icenflamesrush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Zenith is probably the definition of best wife.

  • @hanofsoul
    @hanofsoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2nd! Thanks for another vid Natalie.

  • @Riviscira
    @Riviscira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Tragedies are sadly bound to occur but she's living a nice and peaceful life with her sons and daughter and new generation of a family :)

  • @tortoiseb2041
    @tortoiseb2041 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    the anime killed him on fathers day

  • @melissaguerra4419
    @melissaguerra4419 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos 😁

  • @MrBolo808
    @MrBolo808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you for the run down on Zenith, very much appreciated friend. Also have you watch "Ranking of the Kings" yet? It's pretty deep and moving

  • @ronsorage78
    @ronsorage78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Zenith is top tier and her being cheated on really rubbed me the wrong way. Might be because I've been single for a few years wanting a devoted and kind woman. Not sure. Just really sucks.

    • @matthewcarroll2533
      @matthewcarroll2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nah, Paul just really sucks honestly. If polygamy is a thing then why not just discuss it with Zenith when whats-her-face (maid) starts showing romantic affection/urges towards him? Seems like a simple solution to me but I guess some people just have too much pride to communicate some things. I get that standards are different but just deep down he's a self-centered narcissist and he really has just annoyed me with every second of screen time in the anime.

    • @samplingmastersxlr8660
      @samplingmastersxlr8660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthewcarroll2533 all 3 are to blame for that incident

    • @rodrigonedel339
      @rodrigonedel339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@samplingmastersxlr8660 All 3? Zenith never did anything wrong. She even made Paul promise he would be faithful before starting a relationship with him. Paul is the scumbag

    • @samplingmastersxlr8660
      @samplingmastersxlr8660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rodrigonedel339 you wouldn’t understand if you only watch the anime
      But in all fairness all 3 are to blame, thankfully all 3 became better for it

    • @ryanj1945
      @ryanj1945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@matthewcarroll2533 if I remember correctly, polygamy is not okay in Zenith’s religion

  • @Diremagic
    @Diremagic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Damn rudy lost his dad and his mom was in a special state, slyphy lost her parents so did eris but at least roxy's were alright.

  • @mrROAR104
    @mrROAR104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    am here to help engagement. Currently manga/anime only and need to read the LN. Definitely gonna watch all the vids once I do

  • @poobutt1707
    @poobutt1707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks I've been waiting for this video also your voice is beautiful much love keep it up your videos fantastic!!!

  • @katlafae9487
    @katlafae9487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I honestly find zenith story and development as a character intriguing. But what I don't understand about characters who possess telepathy in mushoku tensei why can they not communicate with others who don't possess like physic are regular presented?.

    • @Rafaelrgm
      @Rafaelrgm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's like an extra set of ears and mouth, even if someone can speak telepaticaly, only people with the equivalent "ears" can hear and understand.

    • @katlafae9487
      @katlafae9487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh thank you for explaining it like that I understand now

    • @ApexGale
      @ApexGale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Migurd and the Miko can. Zenith can't because being trapped in the dungeon has cursed her to be unable to speak or emote normally.

  • @astolfo99
    @astolfo99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That is what i call quality content

  • @matthewkennedy9502
    @matthewkennedy9502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    😎👍your videos are amazing and keep up the good work
    👍

  • @nimmannapatra6230
    @nimmannapatra6230 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I cried when I read about Zenith’s memory of her life. It’s heart warming. She always loves Rudeus and happy for him having 3 happy wives. She is an amazing mother/grandmother.

  • @julioalvarengamartinez8829
    @julioalvarengamartinez8829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you
    NatalieXHunter very informative

  • @L.L4041
    @L.L4041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man i was just rereading this part right now so sad that happened to paul as he was about to get back everything he had lost

  • @69Bloodstreaks
    @69Bloodstreaks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Zenith is 1 of my faves, im sad she doesn't fully recover

  • @renewalacumen1770
    @renewalacumen1770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't lie, you're voice sounds amazing. Keep it up! 👍

  • @wrathlestro6221
    @wrathlestro6221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your videos.love the voice much better than the other channels content using more robot voice grrr hate those

  • @A_itsar
    @A_itsar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The fact that she will never be cured until her death is just sad, well at least they a reluctant communicator in lara

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well, until Lara leaves home... I didn't mention it because it would mean explaining a whole extra bunch of spoilers but Zenith also seems to be able to communicate with the sacred beast, who also uses telepathy to talk to Lara.

  • @shinkaiatsuya950
    @shinkaiatsuya950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Zenith where Rudeus inherited his unique smile.

  • @LukeJukeDuke
    @LukeJukeDuke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Paul died? thats a bummer tho, he was a cool character and a father to rudy. as for zenith tho, her ending and her state after her rescue is too tragic, she cant speak with her mouth and only be able to talk about what she has to think through telepathy. but she is happy with how things are in the family. RIP paul tho!

    • @fluent4530
      @fluent4530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He got cut in half saving Rudy

    • @miaposamarie226
      @miaposamarie226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was a pretty bad person in the story tbh

  • @Starseeker-sr4xu
    @Starseeker-sr4xu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank so much because I’ve been very curious about what happened to her for a while now

  • @privity2207
    @privity2207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You voice is amazing bro

  • @NigelNikoba
    @NigelNikoba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    all i can say that she is stuck in a hard place haha.... but honestly i was sad when reading that chapter/volume and paul's suffering to get her was the deal breaker for my heart

  • @captaintaco1177
    @captaintaco1177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just finished volume 12, an emotional rollercoster. I am sitting here on the verge of tears due to how all the moments that occured being incrediblely bitter sweet

  • @renyarhoj4154
    @renyarhoj4154 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make of another version of this video with all of the spoilers included!

  • @Darth_Bateman
    @Darth_Bateman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I still miss bubbly and motherly Zenith…:(

  • @aterriblesliceoftoast4096
    @aterriblesliceoftoast4096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can’t wait for all this to happen in the anime.

  • @ImInfinix
    @ImInfinix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i truly appreciate how you only spoil what you have to. it gives me a good understanding on a specific subject, but doesn’t spoil the story

  • @annoyed_bimbo8104
    @annoyed_bimbo8104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    So does this mean Zenith is long living now? I tried googling her and it say she dies like 50 or something years after she's found but it sounds like she's alive, even after Rudy dies.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I don't think it changed her lifespan. She could just live to be older than Rudeus - he lives to be 74 and she was pretty young when he was born, so if she lived to 100 she could still outlive Rudy with a normal human lifespan. she does look younger than she is, apparently though, so maybe the years she was in the crystal don't count, though that wouldn't be long enough to add a significant amount to her lifespan.

    • @annoyed_bimbo8104
      @annoyed_bimbo8104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@NatalieXHunter yea, I think her being trapped for so long in the crystal mightve kept her at the age of either when she was teleport and/or trapped in the crystal. I forget if that part was mentioned. (How she got in the crystal) it wouldn't the first time that a blank age person is trapped in a crystal and comes out the same age, only to live out their friends/family again.

    • @rodrigonedel339
      @rodrigonedel339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She dies at 69. Rudy at 74. So, she died several years before Rudy

    • @famousdev9707
      @famousdev9707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rodrigonedel339 damn zenith had him at zero years old?

    • @annoyed_bimbo8104
      @annoyed_bimbo8104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rodrigonedel339 paul- ayyyee I got 69 cents. You know what that means
      Paul- *sobbing* my wife dies at 69 and I can't 69 no mo

  • @Violet1234
    @Violet1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember reading an extra chapter of volume one where it was about Zenith’s daily routine with raising her children and her thoughts on Rudeus and how she wanted their peaceful life to go on forever, when I finished volume 12 couldn’t help but think back to this extra chapter and cry because Zenith really is a great character

  • @burck6113
    @burck6113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I would make a joke about the "best wife" comment at the beginning but it's not exactly a high bar to set for zenith lol I do wish we got to see more of her earlier on though. We saw plenty of paul and I was kinda hoping for some wholesome moments with zenith too. That labyrinth part went 0 - 100 real quick though. I appreciate the concept, though. It's awesome to see real danger and risk in anime stories where people do lose loved ones and can't bring them back, even in some magical world where crazy things are possible. The aftereffects of the crystallizing remind me of people who were in a coma but still aware of their surroundings. Now we just need to figure out why the sketchy figure didn't want rudy to go and why he's still bothering him lol

    • @thomasallen9974
      @thomasallen9974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hmmm well why that sketchy figure keeps bothering Rudy is rather important for a very dangerous reason. Spoilers if you wanna read:
      The Human God Hitogami can make ALL humans in Mushoku Tensei obey him with unwavering faith, EXCEPT Rudeus and his descendants. There is a secret war happening in the background, no battles are fought, yet, but conflict is there. Hitogami is not a good god. And Rudeus and his kin are considered to be new pieces on the board that can change who wins that conflict. As such, Hitogami does his best to keep Rudy and family on his side to so as to stay in power.

    • @burck6113
      @burck6113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasallen9974 sounds interesting. I think it's building up a strong series and can't wait to see how it plays out. Between what you put here and what I've heard from Natalie's videos, I've been putting quite a bit together without diving in myself. I don't personally mind spoilers but I do understand that others can have their experience negatively impacted by them and I do like to keep some things in the dark just for fun lol. Ty for the explanation!

  • @vladokingsley297
    @vladokingsley297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow channel blowing up !

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, people seem to like the Mushoku Tensei stuff which has been really great! But, idk if I'll hit a big slump when next season comes around - will have to see how it goes.

  • @Toto-95
    @Toto-95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    keep it up !

  • @caseyteague7636
    @caseyteague7636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me: *Sees thumbnail*
    Also me: *EMOTIONAL DAMAGE* 😢

  • @dspellcaster1027
    @dspellcaster1027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't wait for the 25th...vol 14 comes out! A sad love story that cheers up...a little.

  • @ezequielfernandez476
    @ezequielfernandez476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    mushoku has so much lore and character history that you can make this kind of videos for a veeeeery long time and thats grate lol im kinda a mushoku simp so i love to watch this kind of videos and talks about the series , im re reading the miko of milis arc now and damn when i first read the miko reading zeniths memories i was crying like a baby and now, in my who knows how many readings, im feeling the same way
    edit: i like how you center the video in the subject , zenith in this case, and are carefull of not spoil others plot points or characters, its a hard thing to do thinking on how everything is connected in mushokus story

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, it does mean I end up oversimplifying a lot or skipping whole things (like I skipped that Zenith can also communicate with Leo, so I didn't have to spoil the whole thing with Leo), but I think sometimes people want to know what happens to a favorite character or want spoilers on a particular event, but don't want the big plot points and reveals spoiled too. Like if you like Re:Zero, you might want to know if and when Rem wakes up, but not everything else that happens until she does. So, I try to keep things centered on just what I have to spoil to answer the question, like here it's what happens to Zenith, so I don't have to spoil anything about say, Orsted.

    • @ezequielfernandez476
      @ezequielfernandez476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NatalieXHunter i agree, i like your work and i dont think that simplifying things is bad, keeps the video centered and doesnt divert attention from the main topic also shows how much attention you pay to the story, with the mushoku boom that the anime started now you can see when a youtuber really cares for the story and when is just for the views and im happy to have found your channel because it shows how much you care so i hope you can keep doing this videos

    • @MsVidaWinter
      @MsVidaWinter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NatalieXHunter Thank you for this approach! I'm actually one of those people. Found your channel through that Noralities drama. Liked your points there, and then stayed for Re Zero and MT content. Honestly, you're great at explaining things in a simple, yet detailed enough way, so that the viewer ends up with exactly what they came in for -- an answer to a particular question and general understanding of how things got to that point. But no major reveals that are unnecessary to answer that initial question. So thank you very much and good luck with your next video whichever you decide to do

  • @vogel2499
    @vogel2499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Natalie, you should try deep dive into TBATE. Tbh I prefer MT more than TBATE, but your deep review might convinced me to pick it up again.

  • @edes_03
    @edes_03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What would have happened if rudeus followed hitogami’s advice and didn’t go to save Zenith?

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Paul would have survived and Rudeus would have ended up married to Linia or Pursena as his second wife instead of Roxy.

    • @Jakokokoroko
      @Jakokokoroko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Not to mention Roxy would have died... that is the whole reason Hitogami didn't want Rudy to go since
      SPOILER
      Roxy gives birth to Lara later on who ultimatively seals Hitogami's fate.

    • @vogel2499
      @vogel2499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jakokokoroko No, Roxy will survive(according to Hitogami). But she will fell in love with random adventurer who saved her.

  • @Alisavv2162
    @Alisavv2162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh that background is my phone wallpaper! It's an album cover from the band Fightstar.

  • @kristoffer2250
    @kristoffer2250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What do you think about the audience response when they watch season 2?
    I love the school arc to death but anime-onlies might have a different opinion on it, especially the first few episodes. It's important as it establishes the new status quo and it establishes what will become Mushoku's highs.
    I'm curious about your prediction regarding its reception.

    • @CaseNumber00
      @CaseNumber00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What i didnt like about it is the story returned a standard high school setting as oppose to the a continent crossing journey like an epic tale like LOTR.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It depends whether volume 7 ends up being a movie or not (there's speculation that there will be a movie and that could be what it is, or alternatively I thought it might be Sylphy's story as set up for S2). But either way if it reaches vol 12 then it will still have some of the traveling and adventures, plus the school stuff is still not your typical school storylines, like Rudy getting married and finding out about Nanahoshi and whatnot, plus the stuff with Fitts is pretty nice. I think people will like it... well, I hope they do.

    • @kristoffer2250
      @kristoffer2250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@NatalieXHunter I hope they do too. There's a lot of things there, especially in retrospect. Lots of substance and character. I will do as I had always done and put my faith that Studio Bind will pull it off brilliantly and that people will like it just as they liked the slice-of-life moments of the first season.

  • @dudethatlovessongs
    @dudethatlovessongs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:05, I felt that😂👌

  • @rajvirmalhans2073
    @rajvirmalhans2073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Her fate will likely be one of the hardest hitting moments in the anime if done right m

  • @addidaswguy
    @addidaswguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ugh so awesome but MAAAAN am I soo bummed that we won't see this in Anime for soo long. I'm reading the LN but still I want to see it so bad since MT is such an incredible adaptation. The art, the animation, world building, music, characters and just everything is so good it's hard(for me with this story) to go to reading, although I do love the extra details.

  • @ivansoto9723
    @ivansoto9723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was surprised, Norn took the news of Paul a bit better than I thought she would

  • @FreckledTM
    @FreckledTM 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is heartbreaking

  • @pointathim
    @pointathim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    if roxy spoke telepathically the whole story would have been different. Change My Mind

    • @JAFrk
      @JAFrk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "If world war 2 never happened the world will be different, change my mind". What an odd way to create discourse.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah, for sure. But Roxy probably wouldn't be in the story if she spoke telepathically as she wouldn't have ended up leaving her village for the same reason, and having the same life. The fact Lara can speak telepathically means that they can in some way hear from Zenith, but only once Lara is old enough to communicate verbally as well...

    • @markissacs7784
      @markissacs7784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NatalieXHunter but Lara has no interest in translating

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, but if Zenith said she wanted a translator I guess they could go and hire someone from the Migurd tribe or something - they have plenty of money and Roxy obviously is connected to a lot of people with telepathy who might fancy living somewhere different. Seems like Zenith doesn't ask for anything like that and due to her dreamlike state is fairly happy as she is.

    • @pointathim
      @pointathim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JAFrk Man, its just a "what would happen" type of question

  • @haydencrawford8552
    @haydencrawford8552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I know she didn't technically get "fridged" but the fact that Paul lost her and never found her again makes me sad.
    She was so wholesome and sweet and reminds me of my own mom. 😫

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ehhh fuck Paul.

    • @shriramvenu
      @shriramvenu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he did find her. and he died knowing that he'd saved her. He just never got to go home with her to his family.

  • @joejunior4700
    @joejunior4700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's heartbreaking that's what I thought, bittersweet.

  • @whisperviz1346
    @whisperviz1346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a waste, she's such a fine woman
    But I'm glad she's survived at least
    and live the rest of her life happily

  • @omeganeoz
    @omeganeoz ปีที่แล้ว

    could you make a video on what to expect in season 2 now that the trailer is out? like what could be the ending and stuff?

  • @dohickey7184
    @dohickey7184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can I be the first person to admit that a good reason why I click on all your videos is to see what dress you're going to wear? lol

  • @canedz4168
    @canedz4168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did they mention that Zenith did not age at all while she was in the crystal? I kinda remember Rudeus saying Zenith's looks haven't changed.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, but she was only in there for a few years so it's not really a big deal and I forgot to mention it. Just means she looks a few years younger than she is, but not to an abnormal degree.

  • @VictorEdwards
    @VictorEdwards 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't care bout the spoiler
    Just keep giving us content like this