I tried the Ricoh GR III and GR IIIx.
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- The Ricoh GR III versus the Ricoh GR III X. Which one is better for street photography? Which one should you buy? Which one will Omar choose?
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I chose the GRIII because I was looking more for a snapshot camera for vacations and daily activities, not necessarily looking to do 'art'. And I feel the same way about preferring a wider field of view while on vacation.
If you get the Griii (non x), you can buy the OEM adapter (GA-1), and the slap the telephoto lens for the Griiix, conversely, if you get a Griiix, then you can get the OEM adapter (GA-2), and buy the wide angle lens for it. It is not necessarily the same, but it's a work around. Also, be mindful, if you do have the griii (non x), and decide to adapt the tele lens on it, you will see barrel vignetting, to mitigate this, set the camera crop to 35mm or 50mm. Nice cameras either way. P.S. the reason I say OEM adapter is because that's the only adapter that has electronic contacts, means the EXIF will reflect to the focal length you decide to use "Wide or Tele" and it will be displayed on the GRiii screen.
There are so many reviews out there, but I really like your upbeat, funny and welcoming personality. I find that a lot of Ricoh users have some great images that induce a sort of calm demeanour in all their photographs. Coupled with soft, ambient soundtrack it's so relaxing. Love watching these. Keep it coming!
I’m much more confused after watching this video.
There are two focal lengths to choose from. What other information do you need?
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Great comparison! Very helpful ❤
I did consider the GR III(X) but went with the Nikon Z30 instead. Super happy with that one for street photography as well as a small and light camera to take on bicycle rides.
Great overview!
I decided and got... both. 😀 I have no preferred field of view. Which suits me best depends on where I am: narrow streets vs wide streets or even landscapes.
BTW, I have the regular GRIII and the Urban edition GRIIIx. Reason is for the Urban edition is not esthetics, but practicality, i.e. being able to see which is which in the bag.
I went with the GRIII over the GRIIIX.
The way I think about the difference is that the X is for your perspective. It's closer, more focused on one point in the frame. Great for capturing personal memories easily with less clutter, a real point and shoot.
With the III you have to work for your shot a little more. It's a little more dramatic and unnatural a perspective, so you want to work a scene and find the ideal angle and distance to massage clutter into context. It will net you technically better photos because of the extra consideration and effort, but you will probably end up sacrificing flow for this.
For example: I'm more likely to get into the dirt to make a shot really pop with the III, whereas with the X I just hold it up at what I was looking at and fire.
This is why if I was to recommend one to a casual newcomer, I'd recommend the X. It's overall less faff, and you're more likely to be instantly pleased with your images. You probably don't want to fight your camera unless you're a bit of nerd like me. 🤓
Either way, check out EYExplore shooting the GR in Asakusa, on the official Ricoh channel. 👑
I've had two griis and now have an original GRD1, I agree, the narrowed FOV would suit my needs better too.
As a newcomer, this is exactly how I felt haha. I felt the III was too wide, but was way more pleased with the X, so I sold the III. That was about a year ago, and I have zero regrets.
It depends, don't worry))
thanks bro, im going to the X.
Thanks for this! It helps understand the difference between the two more! It really depends on the user.
I got the GR3 and programmed the side wireless button for the crop mode toggle 26/35/50. So if i want to get closer and I can't walk closer I can crop/zoom. Probably get better quality cropping in software though but for quick snaps it works.
I picked up the IIIx in New York about this time last year. (I apparently got the last one in NYC at the time!) I've been a GR user since the original GR Digital in 2005 and most recently using the GRII. The IIIx is my everyday carry. There are definitely times when I miss the wider angle. However, I have been using the 77mm crop often lately to punch in on interesting architectural details or when I see an interesting composition coming together be I can't get close enough fast enough! I'm looking forward for the GR IV 😁😁😁
Hi Omar. Yes it might be nice to have both but surely the choice comes down to some people preferring 28 mm and others preferring 40. Me, I have the GR III, bought before the X came out but I still would have chosen the X-less version. The lenses are so good that cropping in camera or in post is hardly ever an issue for me since my style of photography does not necessarily depend on great sharpness in the final product. Having said all that, I do have an X100V and so that satisfies my need of a slightly longer focal length (and a flippy screen!!). But if I carry both in my small camera bag and have the Fuji in my hand, I often switch to the GR III if I cannot get everything into the field of view, which often happens in tighter spots in the street.
Good comparison video Omar, I went with the GR3x it works well with what I shoot.
Exactly what I was looking to learn! Thank you 🙏
Yo thanks for the lols while researching the Ricoh griiis. Not technical but definitely experiential.
I always find wide angles more difficult to handle than normal lenses and 40mm is closer to normal on APS-C than 28mm.
With 40mm you can allways step back a litte to widen your angle and be more discrete on street photopraphy.
Sure one could say with 28mm you can step forward, so it depends on your personal choice or preference.
40mm is my all time fav focal length and it it's great for both street and ppl photography. The Panasonic 20mm micro four thirds lens (40mm equiv) is the lens I've spent more time with than any other!
What you said at the end is the perfect summary. You make the photo work with whatever version you have
I was searching random videos comparing GR iii and iiix... your video is really helpful also as a JM fan, it was such a surprise to see the Born and Raised album in the comparison pictures.
Not in the market for a Ricoh - but if Omar is posting about it…….. 😅 Back to reality! Not in the market for one but I watched until the end simply because your content is generally balanced and informative (and very fun to watch). I find learning more about other systems, cameras and user perspective very valuable. Nicely done.
I love that I happened to be buying this almost exactly when this came out. I have been fighting between the two cameras, and I was leaning towards the iii, but having a smallest amount of bokeh on the x was a nice to have... but it's true, I want wider, the things I would want to shoot with this would be wider... if I want bokeh I should be busting out my fujis.
Great video! I have no desire for either of these cameras, but was simply interested in how you might present them, and I wasn't disappointed. Entertaining as ever and educational with great perspective. I might add that I have the now infamous Fuji x100v with the 28 mm WCL. I'm telling this because your point about the fixed lens forces you to shoot according to your focal length, however I do enjoy having the option to go to a 28 mm lens quickly based on the situation. Great stuff as always. Thanks
As an EDC, I just got the GRIII (original black). It is great at capturing moments since the camera can always be with you (pocketable). You just pull it out from your pocket and snap. I am a Fujifilm user, had the x100f and I find GRIII makes more sense as an EDC. The special edition colors are nice but I think the black is the one to get which matches the purpose of this camera, low profile and discreet. The downside of this camera is a) no WR, dust issue is always in my mind and b) auto focus is almost useless at night. I hope the GRIV will fix these issues.
Glad I found your channel. Love your humor and the info.
DUDE! I have been wanting to get one of these!
Living in a small town in Wisconsin, I can definitely get on board with that rural edition.
I still have my GRII. It is such a pleasure to use. Even if it is only a 16Mpx
I’m going to try on the wide angle converter for the griii for my Arizona trip 😊
My favorite focal length is 35mm. However, if I has to choose between the two, I would chose the GR III with the 28mm. It seems like it puts you in the middle of the scene vs being an observer.
If you want to use Snap focus (and you should) then the regular III is the better choice as the wider lens has much more depth of field, so your in-focus zone is much larger.
I have the GRIIIx and think about the 28 mm all the time, so there´s that. So much for it becoming your focal length ..
I went with the IIIx, but you are right… I want both. Not going to get the regular though 😊
Awesome, helpful and you made me smile. subscribed.
40mm used to be popular but is a much underrated focal lens right now. It gives you a cinematic look and I love it. Now would I switch over from Fuji to Ricoh? Maybe next time 😂 I said the same thing about the Nikon Z fc and I actually love their new (full frame) version the Z f so... Anyway thanks for another great video!
great shots. by the way. Thanks
Hey Omar! Love your channel and content. Wondering if you’ve ever used and/or reviewed the Nikon Coolpix A…another (albeit 10 yr old) pocket sized APS-C sensor powerhouse. I had always heard tale of these cameras, but chalked them up as mythical unicorns. However, KEH had one listed for $265 and I snatched it up! I’ve had the GRII, GRIII, and the Leica LX2…all of which were fine cameras…but this Coolpix A is the most rugged and lovely-to-use camera, that is simply a joy to use and take literally anywhere. It’s basically like having a 16MP D7100 in your pocket. Truly an underrated Nikon gem!
Nice content Omar ;). Thanks for helping me to choose between these two cameras. I like the III probably more because I like to travel and I already have 6D with 70-200 so I need to have a pocket camera with wide-angle lens.
Both! I have one and about to get the other. Amazing cameras!
Thanks for sharing.
It is about choice! I much prefer 40mm over 28, it is the sweetspot to be able to photograph things further away without being silly and still doing indoor photos at the same time. But I get that other people enjoy wider lenses.
For me it will stay with my Fuji and the 28mm apsc focal length -> 40mm equiv
After owning the GRIIIX for around 9 months I'd recommend almost anyone to go with the regular 28mm equivalent unless you religiously shoot at 85+ then you might feel more at home with 40mm. I found that there's still a lot of character missing from the 40mm and there have been many situations where I found myself wanting a wider shot. Especially for street photography.
Given that it's so small there's a lot of times where you want to take casual group photos and things of that nature when traveling or hanging out and I ran out of room to back up many times.
thanks for the feedback
the fuji 27mm f2.8 is one of my favorites so I think the 40mm on this is just fantastic. Especially for people who have a hard time walking right up to people on the street if they want to get them in the shot
what if I want to take photos only of people. I'm tired of buying Portra film so would the GR III be fine? I use very often the Sigma 18-35 on various film stocks
@@filipmokrogulski if you need a pocket camera yes, if you need a more classical camera, I would say go to Fuji X pro 2 or 3, but it's very complicated to answer
I think they're both great options. If you primarily want to take portraits the GRIIIx might be slightly more flattering but can't go wrong with either. Group photos might be a little more convenient with the GRIII@@filipmokrogulski
Would you recommend the GR III over a Sony ZV1 for street/travel?
So yeah, I ended up buying both (used), an OG GRIIIx and a Street Edition GRIII (black ring only). I opted to minimize my kit from a X-T3 with a bunch of lenses, as I was often finding myself not bringing my camera with me due to size. I have one of these in my pocket all the time now, and sometimes take both in my small sling, and that's been worth it. But really, I think the lens and sensor combinations in these two cameras are second to none and I love how razor sharp my images come out. I may buy back into an ILC or medium format system down the road, but right now, having these two fit all my needs.
Oh, and one more thing, I think Omar is right about the versatility of the GRIII. Though I think the GRIIIx just feels sharper to me overall.
I couldn't choose between the two cameras so I bought both, and I use them both fairly equally
These are nice looking cameras, although it seems like the street edition shouldn't have a bright yellow ring in order to a little more inconspicuous. It's funny, I had a Ricoh camera back in the 80s, the Ricoh X-RP. And, my dad used one back in the 60s and 70s to shoot family stuff. That was a Ricohmatic 44 that used 120 film. Fun video Omar, have a great week.
Good point, luckily the rings are replaceable!
@@loganz I didnt know, that's cool
Best Video about Ricoh. Thank you
I’ve had a GRIII for a couple of years now …. And just love it … I was tempted to swop, but Nah … carry it everywhere! Even when I have my XT4 with me … What’s great about them is that people just think I’m a tourist snapping away and I’ve never been challenged … really great for ‘street’ …
Are images SOOC? Great review !
Suprising that you don't use Full Press Snap vs touchscreen to engage snap-focus... especially on the GRIII where you can shoot from the hip easily since it's 28mm. Aside from that - I'd choose a diff body if I wanted to shoot 40mm methinks. 28mm and GR just go hand in hand (I might be biased since I have the GRII as well).
What lense did you use on this mega blur shot? It’s beautiful!
I had both, I preferred 40mm all-around, still end up selling the X. AF is just too slow for my kids, A7III can do the job, GR3X only with very still portraits. For snapsots the 28mm version is better where AF speed is less critical. Also for indoor shots it's more usable focal length, however 40mm DOF is more artistic, I loved this separation in a tiny camera. I hope Ricoh can upgrade AF in next generation, at least A7III speed.
There are a lot of pocketable point-and-shoot style cameras with viewfinders, flash, better auto white balance, AF in low light....but what the GR has is film photo sims/recipes that you can change-up in-camera, which fujifilm doesn't do. You could be in a monochrome mode and snap a picture, and if you think it might've been better in a color version, change it. Other brands don't even do vintage film sims. It's literally the only reason I'd consider a GR. Otherwise I'd be using my old Nikon Coolpix or my S22 Ultra for my EDC (which it is).
I would choose the grIIIx you could always do a panoramic with the 40 if you need a wider shot. Good luck finding one in stock anywhere.
Both, of course. It is the only right answer.
What about the lack of zoom on both, particularly the original? Is the image sharp still if you take a general scene photo and then crop out and zoom in on a bit?
Awesome pictures! Sooo beautiful! 😮 Can you tell me your settings / recipes? Thank you so much. 🙏
I want neither of these cameras. I'm just a Omar fanboy, watching all his vids^^
On the note of phones, no fighting. My galaxy shooting manual, raw, and edit on Snapseed, produce incredible photos.
Hey Omar, many thanks for the entertaining, humorous test. I think I must have one of the two. But which one only? Or both? I still need some time. Greetings from Germany, Rainer!!!
I went recently with a Nikon Z5 with the 28mm f2.8 and the 40mm f2. So I have both focal length as I like them and way cheaper than buying both ricohs
I had so much fun watching your video 😂
Love this one a lot
i have a griiix and i bring that thing with me everywhere. just wish it has better battery life
So helpfull, thank uuu
I’m curious, do you edit your photos or do these cameras already give photos that film look?
Man…you messed me up. I was set to get the x. I have a q2 and felt this was my fav focal length. Great video
I bought the GRIII early this year and love it for travel and landscapes… I did however recently pick up a GRIIIX and carry both with me everywhere I go. Not sure which I prefer yet, but having choice is maybe not the best with these two cameras
It’s funny that you were talking about having rural edition. About two weeks after they first released it I thought they had a dairy version instead of the diary version.
7:30 min in and yeah am convinced 28mm is it! I like the that extra bit of context (wacky) :)
Any thoughts about either or both of them vs the X100V in performance? Great video by the way.
I don't own X100, but I have XT-30II, which is comparable to X100.
For me, Ricoh GR and Fuji serve different purposes. If I go outside with a goal to shoot pictures, I take Fuji. But if I just go for a walk, I take Ricoh.
Even if I dont get a single picture on that day, no big deal. Ricoh weights almost nothing, fits in a pocket, so you kinda forget it's there.
As for image quality, it might be subjective, but I feel like Fuji raw files are more elastic and generly require less corrections in Lighroom than raws from Ricoh. And I like Fuji colors a bit more, even without film simulations.
Beautiful pictures
I love the idea of these pocketable Ricoh cameras but find it so hard to compose and shoot with the LCD. It's probably because I need glasses to see close objects, but not for distance so when I'm out in the street, wearing glasses isn't much of an option. So I'll stick to the viewfinder on my Fuji X100V, though I do wish the eye cup were a bit bigger.
Great video and comparison. I want one of these when I grow up :3 I think where the camera world meets regular people, who typically use their phone, there's definite confusion about field of view and focal length. I was looking into getting a m4/3 camera recently and when trying to figure out what lenses to get (before I had the camera) I assumed the "standard" 35mm/50mm full frame equivalent were somewhere in the ballpark of camera phones, but then learned phone main cameras are typically 23-26mm ff equivalent. What's wide to a photographer isn't necessarily wide to a non-photographer, I suppose (people are so used to that wide angle distortion that it looks "normal"). I think the choice of ricohs would be easier if people knew the "28" is tighter than most phones, and the "40" has more reach but is a bit too tight for a lot of small apartment/house indoor situations. Actually it wouldn't help at all, would it :D. I'd still want both.
OMG what would be amazing for this camera is a 90deg viewfinder that can go on the hotshoe so you can compose by looking down at it!
Overall I actually liked the compositions of the 40mm better. Sometimes it feels like the 28 is just capturing too much and not enough focus on the subject so the 28 feels more like snapshots vs a thought out photo.
Ricoh gr iv 28-40mm would be nice!
Kudos to your daughter for always being such a good sport about being your model. I think I like the 40mm better. You Like?
Since this is an APSC, I'm going to talk in APSC.
What this comparison highlights that is the magical middle ground that is 23mm.
So out of the two I'd prefer a GRIV either with a bigger sensor and the 18mm on the GRIII, or a GRIV with 23mm. I guess that's why I never took the plunge. I'd err towards the GRIII having owned the fuji x70 twice (18.5mm).
Will be on a different price level, but Fuji now has a highly impressice 40mp sensor in its pocket. If it combined that with an 18mm lens in the X100VI (apparently its getting a new lens, which i think means either wider taking a cue from the Q2/3 or to better resolve 40MP. Why not both?), with options to punch in to 23, 35, 50, the extra bulk could easily be overlooked.
So, I do think Ricoh should be pushing that update sooner than later before Fuji reveals its hand in the spring. If the x100VI is yet anothet 23mm variant, id rather pick up a GR III with 18mm, just want to see whats in store...
For me personally I prefer ‘twenties’ in mm for street photography. And a small and rather discrete camera. Not sure if those Ricoh’s fit that bill. My X-E2 with 23mm pancake is my favorite but needs a replacement eventually. Will remember Ricoh. Thanks for sharing!
im not english native, what does pancake means for a lens ?
@@chriscard6544 It means it is a smaller lens, low profile, doesn't stick out as far as some other lenses do.
@@TheArtisticFlavor ok thank you very much
I have always liked the shape/size of the Ricoh GRs, but having no viewfinder is a deal breaker for me. Own multiple Fujis. One of them is the X-M1. I like it except for NO VIEWFINDER. Shooting street with potential for bright conditions, IMO requires a viewfinder.
I want a GriiiXX with a 75mm lens😍
Please excuse my ignorance, but what speed did card is required for stills photography in the Griii?
i was expecting ZF video
I have the GRIII and I love it. A lot of people complain about the dpad ring failing but mine is still working fine. Having said that it seems more and more the only camera I have with me is my Iphone 14 Pro.
GRII is still good enough for me 🤗
Thanks!
thx, bro
I bought the Ricoh GR IIIX, but I wasn't as thrilled compared to my Fuji X-E4... It went back to the store.
We must’ve had the same upbringing. I want to collect every camera, too.
I think I’m more the GR III 28mm. I really enjoy cramming more into street shots. My only fear with getting one is that I might use my X100V less, which stinks because that camera is so very nice.
As I have already mentioned, I do have both cameras and it is my dilemma. I love the X100V. Did I mention that I love it. But, I probably find I take out the GR III more, because it is a pocket camera and therefore satisfies my need to always have a (real) camera with me. It ois so inconspicuous and probably hardly anyone knows I have a camera with me. But then a few days later, when I truly believe the Fuji feels neglected, I take it out and then remember why I love it so much. So, having both is great as they really serve different purposes for me. I wojuld do it again if starting again.
A lot of people admit to have sold the X100V after using the GR
I want a Rural edition... I really want one!
We need the GR IV! Or even better… a X80!
Until last month I only shot with Fujifilm x-T2/4. Due to the boring comments of my top management aka wife about running around like a cargo donkey I changed my behaviour 😅. Now I carry the GR III with me in my trouser pocket! Very inconspicuous!!! 🎉 And I get great street pictures and even macro shots! Without further comments of my family!!! 😂😂😂 P.S. I can even use jpg recipes for the Ricoh. So it feels like a mini Fuji. Almost!
I think about buying a GR about once a year. But, I keep coming back to the Sony RX100 vii which I already own. I just like having the ability to go from 24-200mm in a pocket camera.
I have the RX100 it’s not a patch on either of the Ricohs or the X100v.
Interesting to see the GRIII has the same vignetting issue as the original classic film models.
It's so crazy so many people are comparing it to the Sony a7iii. They say th af isn't as good, but it should say a lot that it is being compared to a full frame interchangeable lens camera. If anything, it should be compared to a Sony a6700.
I had a Ricoh GR Digital 2 back in the day, regret selling it. Sometimes thought it was just a little to wide as my sole camera. Think 35mm would be the absolute sweet spot.
We are way overdue for the GRIV and it's getting ridiculous. Not paying more or the same launch price of a 4 year old camera. I'll even play their game of immediately pre-ordering it to get a spot in line.
Shout out at 10.18 for the...." You Like " 🤣
I was waiting for your videos about ZF, talk about ZF Omar!
Write to Nikon. They didn't send me one. :)
@@ogonzillaDone! Nikon shame on you! This guy can sell you tons of camera
I just made a video about the X. Man, I love the colours I get from these things!
I really wish ricoh would come out with a camera that has a flip out screen. I’ve been debating on a ricoh for a long time, but i think I’m gonna pick up a sony a6400 and a prime lens instead