This has really become my favourite photography channel. Love the easy going style, and I’m learning a lot about composition and working the scene. Thanks a million.
Both lenses collect the same amount of light, to sort of explain why in a vague handwavey way, the GR iii X's aperture does open wider but because the field of view is narrower, light is coming in from a smaller angle. With the GR iii, the light is allowed to enter from a wider angle and this makes up for the difference in physical size of the aperture, which is why they have the same f number.
This is really one of the first useful GR3 to GR3x comparisons I've seen so far. I have loved 40mm in the past on other systems, so I'm just waiting until the 3x is available here in the US! Come on Ricoh, I want to give you all my money, lol! Also, hoping next year for a native 21mm version (can we call it the GR3y?). I know there's the conversion lens (I have one for my GRii), but it absolutely kills the point of the GR -- pocketability! And Ricoh did have the GR21 film camera back in the day, so it's totally doable for them. Give us a pocketable 21mm to go with this pocketable 40mm, and I will be in photography heaven!
9:08 That‘s what I love when I‘m in Asia. People just don‘t care that much about being photographed. I noticed this especially in Singapore as there are cameras all around anyways :D
Thanks for doing some comparisons between these cameras! There's barely any GR3x videos on TH-cam right now. Maybe one or two comparisons between the two. These cameras need more love! I would love to see more. Also, I'm a big fan of the 40mm focal length. The Ricoh GR3 takes beautiful photos, but 18mm has never been my favorite. I agree with you that it's more difficult to use. I find it challenging with subjects in the frame (some people are amazing at it) and when I pick up a camera, I want it to offer me a different perspective than my smartphone (obviously a huge difference in lens' quality and sensor size). I like me some compression without getting close up :)
I think it's because the GR3x is kinda hard to purchase these days outside of Japan. You make a good point about having a different FOV than on your smartphone. I actually have a video coming discussing the merits of the GR over a phone, which is a questions I sometimes get from people.
Ah yeah the one in Ginza. It's their showroom, but the building was closed recently. Not sure if it will still be there when the site is redeveloped. :)
I wish Ricoh would make an updated version of the GX200. It is basically a GR Digital with a 24-72 mm (full frame equiv.) zoom lens. It is a fantastic camera, takes beautiful b&w pictures and even has in-body image stabilization. I wish Ricoh would update it with additional snap focus distances and a 24 mp APSC sensor. Please leave the built-in flash though. The flash unit on the GX200 works wonder and comes in handy for night street photos.
Do you ever use the 35mm crop on the GRiii? Would that scratch the 40mm itch somewhat? albeit it doesnt compress like the 40mm x would. Seems the original iii might be a touch more flexible due to having that option. though i dont have either camera yet so its just a passing thought on my part :)
I never use crop modes. I figure I can just crop later if I want to. Though, it does 'compress' because compression is matter of distance and FOV, not focal length. So cropping has the exact same effect, albeit at the cost of resolution. I prefer the GR3 over the GR3x because it is more flexible. :)
Great video and like it. I have GR3 for 3 months and really like it. Take it with me everyday. Have to sell it to help my niece go to college. But will look for GR3 again.
Just getting into this channel and loving it so far. It really seems to be there walking with you and chatting about photography. Cool! I am about to get a Ricoh, which would be my second camera (I have a fuji xt-30 with a few optics). I would go for the 40mm for my photography, but I'd like the idea of the 28mm and eventually crop at 35 (or even 50 if I have not my fuji 35mm with me). How is the crop quality in your opinion? We lose mpx ofc. At the same time, I would probably enjoy also the crop from the 3x (that I believe reaches 70mm). Any thought on this feature?
Awesome! Thank you so much! Regarding cropping, it depends on what you want to do with the images. If you just want to post online, then cropping is not a problem 24mp is quite a lot of resolution! I don't crop in camera though, I just shoot as usual and make the cropping decision in post. It also depends no ISO as well, as you lose clarity with higher ISOs. :)
@EYExplore hey thanks for your reply! I ended up getting the 28mm and I am actually almost never cropping. Not in the camera at least. Often I don't in post-production either. Observing the world from 28mm is quite new to me and I am having a lot of fun with it :)
most of the photographs in the second part of the video are great - you are giving me cool ideas for more abstract city photos - will definitely keep them in mind the next time I stroll around my city with the Z50
Just a bit, it works the same. Of course, the DOF / FOV are different so you have to take that into consideration. I've been shooting with a 40mm and zone focusing for years, so I'm used to this FOV. But frankly, I don't use Snap Focus on my GR very often. I don't often do that kind of quick-draw, up close street photography, as you can see in the video. :)
@@EYExplore I have never shot with a 40mm myself. Only with a 28, 35 and 50. With a 28 it’s easy to get everything in focus. For those quick shots it’s harder with a longer focal length, but I guess it’s just to practice :) I will have to test the 40mm in a camera store.
I’ve been watching dozens of griii vs griiix comparison videos and I am so unsure about which one I should choose. I’m a photography newbie (just some experience in the past with another compact camera, the Canon g7x). I love the griii results that photographers on TH-cam are able to achieve but I’m not sure if I can take portraits or simply everyday shots on trips with friends, family and so on.
I would say, if you are in doubt, go for the GR3. It's wider lens is overall more versatile. You can often get a bit closer and get a tighter framing (not the quite the same as using a longer lens, but close enough). But it's often tricky to step back in tight places with the GR3x. That's my feeling after using both cameras for years now.
I did have issued with dust on the GR2, but on the GR3 so far basically no issues. After over 2 years of regular use, I think there is a tiny amount of dust on the sensor but it's only visible on f/16 or so. I don't see it when using typical apertures. :)
It was interesting that comment. I mean, you said it in passing that when you are shooting 28mm you have to aim a little bit up, because you are shooting the floor, I guess mainly when you are shooting portrait orientation. That is true and I had never thought about it like that. You also mentioned you had the wrong settings when you shot the lady in the kimono… which brings the question… do you have a video where you explain standard settings you use when you go out?
Thanks! Which one is the first one? The stickers? I think the ISO was 400, so to keep it pretty low I did 1/20, which is not very slow for a still subject with the GR's stabilization. :)
I keep going back and forth on the 28mm or the 40mm. I tend to not like to shoot too wide normally anyways, but then I'm also worried that I'll be missing out on stuff with the 40mm.
Think of it this way, you can always crop the 28, but you can't 'uncrop' the 40. It's also usually the case that you can't step back for some reason (narrow street) but you can almost always get closer to something (unless it's high up I guess).
@@EYExplore you’re right forsure, plus the 40mm makes snap focus a lot less interesting. I appreciate your videos man, they are fantastic. I just ordered the GRiii and look forward to messing with it this weekend
Hi, check the firmware on the 28mm; I feel the new firmware has sharpened the focusing on mine, particularly for eyes and faces. This may be the difference you are suspecting
6:52 Actually it‘s not very practical to switch cameras all the time. I do it with my analog cameras all the time. I.e. one OM2 with a 400 ASA film and one with an 800 ASA. But it‘s still way easier than switching lenses, especially in dusty surroundings.
Yeah, after making this video I did find that I prefer just using one at a time. But not so much because of practicality, but because I enjoy using a single prime lens at a time, and switching constantly just makes me indecisive. :)
Thanks, that was very nice. I am waiting to receive the 28mm in early November, but the more I think about it (and you just confirm that), the more I want to own both. They complete each other so well! 😍
I'm currently in the market for an everyday camera - of course the GR series crossed my mind. My usual camera gear I use is my Nikon D7200 with a Sigma Art 18-35/1.8 and a Tamron 70-200/2.8. I'm noticing that I'm somehow losing interest in my hobby because of all this weight I have to carry around - especially on hot summer days. Wondering on which version I should consider regarding focal length - seems the GRIIIx would be right in the middle of my 18-35. But roaming around cities I'm wondering if it's not to close for everyday/touristy stuff and the 28mm overall a more versatile focal length for such scenarios. The easy answer is probably to get both. haha But that's why I am looking towards other options as well, like the Fuji X-E4 or maybe even a x-pro3 with interchangeable lens options...which adds again a lot of bulk. I mean I like the X-T4 as well but if you put a zoom lens on that you are not that so far away from my D7200 with a prime lens. Any long time experience regarding dust on the sensor on the GR cameras? Also a point which let me tend towards a system camera and easier cleaning.
If I could only have one, it would be the GR3. The 28mm FOV is just more versatile for me. I know I can use it more situations than the other one. As for dust, on my old GR2 I had quite a bit of dust. However, on my GR3, after about a 1.5 years of heavy use there is no dust on the sensor. I'm very happy about that. :)
@@EYExplore Thank you for your fast reply! I'm with you - as an everyday camera for various situations I'm probably safer with the wider lens. Thinking of scenarios like grabing spontaneous shots when I am with friends at their/my home - a 40mm could be to close for that. Thanks for the piece of mind regarding dust - probably the ultrasonic cleaning feature helps as well - I think they included it from the GRIII onwards.
hello there I am new to your channel when I am considering this camera. read quite a lots of comments talking about the dust and heating issue, do you have such an issue?
Close is what street is all about. 28 is a perfect lens for that. Get up close and be in the photo when viewing it or be a person looking at a scene. Some of the best shots are done up close and personal. I think the 40 makes for better street portraits. The choice will always be the gr3 street and candid and the gr3x for portrait and visual story telling in a journalistic way. Pick your poison
I appreciate your opinion but I disagree. There is certainly a type of street photography that works best up close (in the style of Suzuki or Gilden). But plenty of great street photography has been done on a 50 or longer (Saul Leiter comes to mind, but there are others). Anyway, it's matter of personal creative vision, not a set of rules that one focal length is for this and the other is for that. That's stupid. You can do great portraits on a 28mm too! :)
Love the channel, I've been following for some time now and really enjoy your presentation style and walkabouts through these beautiful cities. I own the GR3 and 3X and find that both cameras compliment each other perfectly; I shoot in RAW and do my post in Lightroom. Do you use RAW or JPEG with one of the GR's presets, also, how do you find the battery life? On a days shooting with both camera's I tend to use two batteries per camera. Thanks again for the great videos!
Thank you so much!! I only shoot in raw and enjoy editing my photos in Adobe Camera Raw. The battery life is sufficient for me. I carry one spare battery and it's usually more than enough (I rarely use it) on a given outing. With both cameras, I have 3 batteries in total and it's also plenty. :)
Edit: FYI for those interested Daikokuten/大黒天 roughly translates to Great Black Heaven 2:45 I was gonna say I know those 3 kanji and I'm only on lvl 12 so you should totally know them 😹 But I agree , when on the spot I often struggle as personally my recollection skills aren't anywhere near as good as my recognition skills . That's why I only like translating from text 😅
Yeah, for me, when I'm speaking English and not thinking about kanji I basically can't read them haha. But when I'm on my own, I'm constantly reading signs and things I see around for practice and I fair much better. :)
Good question! To me the GR3 is better is every way, so it's no competition. The only advantage the GR2 has is the flash, but I almost never used it. However, even though it's better, if you're happy you're happy with your GR2 then there is no point to switch right away, especially is cost is an issue. But if it's in your budget, I highly recommend getting a GR3. I could never go back to the GR2 at this point.
Yes, it's very good. Not as good as say my Nikon Z6, but it's understandable consider the smaller size and cost of the GR. It's also great at low light because of the stabilization. You can comfortably get the shutter speed down to 1/4 and even 1/2 if you are careful, which allows you to keep the ISO.
@@mahdiali6732 Ah maybe some day. My goal is not really to be a camera review channel and I have no personal interest in getting a Fuji and learning it's idiosyncrasies to the point that I could effectively compare them.
Hey, i own a Sony Alpha 6000 with 16-50 lens. I want to do way more street photography and start to carry my camera everywhere. Therefore i want to switch to a smaller camera. Now the question is: GRiii or GRiiix?… i like both image styles🫠 im not very experienced in street photography. Greetings
Just stumbled upon your channel. As a recent switcher from Canon to Nikon Z6ii, will look forward to your other videos. But i’ve been on the hung for a far more portable, carry with you always option hence the draw to the Ricoh. My biggest question and concern is with the comment many make that in low light the focus is slow and hunts. What is your experience, and if that is he reality, can you manage for it by opting for the camera’s zone focus mode? Thanks, Craig
The GR3 is not that bad in low light and it was a huge improvement from the GR2. But you can't expect performance on par with a Z6II for example. I think it's also important to know how to work with the AF system rather than against it. I always use 'Pin-point AF' which is a tiny, center-point AF mode. With this, I can point the camera at things on which I know it will focus well. So, even in generally low light situations there are points of contrast and brightness, so I try to focus on those, helping the camera find a solid AF target. With that, I rarely have issues with AF in low light.
Thank you for the amazing video! I bought both and I'm trying them out for a few weeks before I have to return one. I just can't decide which one to keep. I'm probably going to use it more for general travel. What would you choose? I know both are amazing cameras lol 🙂
Having had both for a while now, I can safely say that I find the GR3 28mm more versatile, especially for travel. I just find myself in more situations where I can just step forward, but not back up. Of course, changing position changes perspective, but it's a worthwhile tradeoff.
I think if you want something new, get a GR3x, but if you really like the 28mm equivalent FOV of your GR2, and you just want to upgrade the tech specs (sensor, AF, stabilization), then stick with the GR3. I personally prefer the GR3 over the GR3x at this point. I just like the focal length more. :)
First off, best opening ever! 😂 Second, I appreciated the real-time comparison between these two. I may go for the 40mm but probably not until a GR4 model comes out. Prices are just a bit high these days 🤙🏼
Good video and thoughts, but schlepping two ultra compact cameras around for their different focal lengths = no way for me. The GRIII is a great camera in its own right (Ive only used the 28mm equiv version) but at some point when you shoot prime you simply have to make some compositional decisions and compromises and to me, thats part of the fun. If Im going to consider packing 2 essentially identical cameras around why not a single compact zoomer or a super small ILC and a second prime lens? Just saying…
Yeah, it's a logical comparison but I've never shot with an X100V and have no interest in getting into another camera system. Ricoh and Nikon are more than enough for my needs! :)
Great and very useful comparison. Lovely that you ended the walk in front of the Ricoh Imaging Square in Ginza. Concerning lenses for beginners, I agree that 40mm equiv is the best for that. Actually I consider fixed focal lengths better than a zoom lens for beginners, since it encourages thinking about composition when framing a subject as you excellently demonstrated in your video. Zooms are too easy in that respect.
I think one of the advantages of the 28mm GR3 is that you have 35mm & 50mm crop modes, so a little either side of the 40mm GR3X, which only has 50mm & 71mm crop modes, so maybe too long for street, but more suited overall for portraiture. Just my thoughts.
Yeah, that makes sense if crop modes are your thing. I almost never significantly crop my photos. Sure, I might straighten a shot or slighty crop to remove some distracting objects from the edge of the frame, but I never make a massive crop or shoot in the crop modes. Of course, that's just my personal preference, not a universal prescription on how to shoot. :)
@@EYExplore Think you've missed the point. Please forgive. Cropping in the camera is not like cropping an existing image - it is more like changing the focal length of the lens. (I use GRiii every day).
@@andrewelliott4436 I won't argue with you, but I fail to see how it's like changing the focal length. Changing the focal length does two things: 1) it changes the FOV, and 2) it changes the DOF. That's it! But cropping only changes the FOV. Whether you do it in camera or in post, it's the same thing in terms of results. That's why it's called a 'crop' mode. The only difference I see between doing it while you're shooting is that you get to see you crop 'live' so you can frame it in the moment. I prefer to keep the full sensor data and then just crop later if necessary.
@@EYExplore is this still true for you? Your other replies seem to conflict with this and state the crop does provide more than just a 'live crop view'
@@yawarlol Sorry, perhaps I don't get your question. Basically, the resulting image whether your crop in camera or in post will be exactly the same. But, I can see how seeing the crop while you're shooting can be beneficial and help with framing. I don't find this benefit worth it and would rather shoot with the entire frame and then worry about cropping in post. Hope that helps! :)
Haha, you should get a dual bracket and hold up both cameras and one ;) I was torn between the two cameras. I went with the III, but I'm still conflicted.
I would put it this way - 40mm you can’t take wider shot but gives you more different shooting experiences. 28mm is ok wide that if you want to shoot closer you need to walk closer to the subject (if possible), more people shooting streets ok with that. Closer to people, talk to them etc. It gives you flexibility IMH. 40mm is great if you bored of/not really a wide angle guy. Some people just can’t shoot wide. 40mm really lock you in tighter. I see 28mm you can still crop in nicely without losing quality. So it’s really up to your style and your experience.
Yeah, pretty much it! I think some people don't wanna get close either, so 40mm works well. Cropping is possible of course, but you're losing pixels. Doesn't matter for social media, but still.... :)
I have Fujifilm XF10 and it’s also a little too wide because it’s lens is 18,5mm. So maybe 23, 28 or some else would be better, even 50mm might be better 😅 keep going man, your viseos are great! 👍
The evolution of street photography : -All started with 50 mm leicas -next trend was 35 mm -after that we had the 28 mm phase -In my option the best street photos have been taken in the 24 mm phase. If you use 2 cameras... One with 24 mm and one with 85 mm.
Cool, but I don't think it's that simple though. Lenses are 'better' than one another. They are just tools for different tasks. It depends on your creative vision. :)
Because you get less resolution. I don't bother with crop modes. If I need to crop, I just do it in post. The point here was to see how it is to use both cameras in the same time.
@@EYExplore I understand your point. In-camera crop modes are fine for my use. They can give you better composition. The sensor has 24MP resolution that is plenty already considering I used to shoot 6MP Canon for billboard use. Second, I doubt people shoot for mural prints, and probably their images end up being viewed on phones anyways. Third, who has time to post? Not me. I shoot jpegs set to XS image size.
Great video thanks mate. All these crop modes though (or doing it in post) are fake because you don't have the true 'compression look' & layers of using a 35mm or 50mm. Background is still far away if you can't, or dont have time, to move closer to capture the moment. If there was say a true 60-75mm equiv. GRiii I'd carry that with my GRiii & be real happy😂 May still get the GRiiix with teleconverter & have that around neck (way lighter than my XT2 & 50mm) and GRiii in pocket. A superlight all-day street combo with the benefits of using same cameras: menus, setup, JPEG output, spare batteries etc...😊
Yeah, which is one reason I don't use them. But then again, you don't have a 28mm and 40mm with these cameras either. They are in fact 18mm and 26mm lenses. :)
@@techdeficit8661 Ah, haha sorry! For some reason I thought you meant the look of the camera. Of course you meant the photos it takes... I dunno what I was thinking. Anyway, fair enough! :)
The beginning is awesome xD I really want the GR IIIx but due to part shortage won't get it this year... Well, at least I can see you guys doing some nice work with it
For street and documetary I prefer 24-35mm lenses (full-frame). For example the new iPhone 14 comes with 24mm. For street you definitely don't want to zoom.
That's why the GRs comes with 28mm and 40mm equivalent. I disagree however that for street photographer you don't want a zoom. I prefer a prime lenses, but I've zoom lenses and they also have their uses. It's a matter of personal preference. :)
The high quality you used to have on this TH-cam channel has disappeared on late. I'm interested in getting another camera, even less a mirrorless one. You can't be everything to everyone. So either shape up or be shipped out. That's means, I'll unsubscribe your channel.
Well I shoot a different camera & I love this channel because of the How To's and his knowledge about photography ! Remember the camera is just a tool, depends on how you use it !! And he is doing a terrific job!!!!
Thank you!! Yeah, I realized that I didn't talk about it much but it's because I honestly don't use it much. It doesn't factor into my shooting style and the subjects I'm interested in. :)
This has really become my favourite photography channel. Love the easy going style, and I’m learning a lot about composition and working the scene.
Thanks a million.
Thank you so much!! Glad to hear that! :)
Both lenses collect the same amount of light, to sort of explain why in a vague handwavey way, the GR iii X's aperture does open wider but because the field of view is narrower, light is coming in from a smaller angle. With the GR iii, the light is allowed to enter from a wider angle and this makes up for the difference in physical size of the aperture, which is why they have the same f number.
Ah that is a very good, simple layman explanation. I hadn't considered that! Thank you!
Thanks for sharing. You are the first one to do the comparison on the shoot between 28 and 40
My pleasure!! :)
15:32 is so gorgeous. It looks like a glossy photo book. I'm jealous of your shots, my friend. 😂
Thank you very much!! :)
Love this kind of "work the scene" video
Glad to hear that!! :)
This is really one of the first useful GR3 to GR3x comparisons I've seen so far. I have loved 40mm in the past on other systems, so I'm just waiting until the 3x is available here in the US! Come on Ricoh, I want to give you all my money, lol! Also, hoping next year for a native 21mm version (can we call it the GR3y?). I know there's the conversion lens (I have one for my GRii), but it absolutely kills the point of the GR -- pocketability! And Ricoh did have the GR21 film camera back in the day, so it's totally doable for them. Give us a pocketable 21mm to go with this pocketable 40mm, and I will be in photography heaven!
Glad to hear you found it useful!! GR3Y sounds cool to me! They should make it come in GREY as well. :)
Your the best tour guide ever.
Hehe, thank you! :)
9:08 That‘s what I love when I‘m in Asia. People just don‘t care that much about being photographed. I noticed this especially in Singapore as there are cameras all around anyways :D
Totally agree! :)
Thanks for doing some comparisons between these cameras! There's barely any GR3x videos on TH-cam right now. Maybe one or two comparisons between the two. These cameras need more love! I would love to see more.
Also, I'm a big fan of the 40mm focal length. The Ricoh GR3 takes beautiful photos, but 18mm has never been my favorite. I agree with you that it's more difficult to use. I find it challenging with subjects in the frame (some people are amazing at it) and when I pick up a camera, I want it to offer me a different perspective than my smartphone (obviously a huge difference in lens' quality and sensor size). I like me some compression without getting close up :)
I think it's because the GR3x is kinda hard to purchase these days outside of Japan. You make a good point about having a different FOV than on your smartphone. I actually have a video coming discussing the merits of the GR over a phone, which is a questions I sometimes get from people.
37:15 there's a ricoh billboard, thought that was pretty neat
Ah yeah the one in Ginza. It's their showroom, but the building was closed recently. Not sure if it will still be there when the site is redeveloped. :)
Awesome video and really cool that there's still replies on the most recent comments
Thanks!! We don't get so many comments, so I try to reply to them all! :)
33:40 those two shots one after the other were mint
Glad you like 'em! Thank you! :)
I wish Ricoh would make an updated version of the GX200. It is basically a GR Digital with a 24-72 mm (full frame equiv.) zoom lens. It is a fantastic camera, takes beautiful b&w pictures and even has in-body image stabilization. I wish Ricoh would update it with additional snap focus distances and a 24 mp APSC sensor. Please leave the built-in flash though. The flash unit on the GX200 works wonder and comes in handy for night street photos.
It seems a lot of people have love for those older Ricoh models! :)
Do you ever use the 35mm crop on the GRiii? Would that scratch the 40mm itch somewhat? albeit it doesnt compress like the 40mm x would. Seems the original iii might be a touch more flexible due to having that option. though i dont have either camera yet so its just a passing thought on my part :)
I never use crop modes. I figure I can just crop later if I want to. Though, it does 'compress' because compression is matter of distance and FOV, not focal length. So cropping has the exact same effect, albeit at the cost of resolution. I prefer the GR3 over the GR3x because it is more flexible. :)
@@EYExplorewould you still recommend the 3 over the 3x
@@beltransanchez5571 I prefer it! :)
Great video and like it. I have GR3 for 3 months and really like it. Take it with me everyday. Have to sell it to help my niece go to college. But will look for GR3 again.
Thank you very much! That's very noble of you!
I love the scene in 23:20 woman walking by, it’s fantastic. 😊
Thanks!! :)
Love your camera bag!! Where can i get it. Thank you
Thanks! It's not a camera bag, it's just a regular satchel from a brand called Squalo Works. :)
@@EYExplore Thanks.
Just getting into this channel and loving it so far. It really seems to be there walking with you and chatting about photography. Cool!
I am about to get a Ricoh, which would be my second camera (I have a fuji xt-30 with a few optics). I would go for the 40mm for my photography, but I'd like the idea of the 28mm and eventually crop at 35 (or even 50 if I have not my fuji 35mm with me).
How is the crop quality in your opinion? We lose mpx ofc.
At the same time, I would probably enjoy also the crop from the 3x (that I believe reaches 70mm).
Any thought on this feature?
Awesome! Thank you so much! Regarding cropping, it depends on what you want to do with the images. If you just want to post online, then cropping is not a problem 24mp is quite a lot of resolution! I don't crop in camera though, I just shoot as usual and make the cropping decision in post. It also depends no ISO as well, as you lose clarity with higher ISOs. :)
@EYExplore hey thanks for your reply! I ended up getting the 28mm and I am actually almost never cropping. Not in the camera at least. Often I don't in post-production either.
Observing the world from 28mm is quite new to me and I am having a lot of fun with it :)
@@NaiveBanana Glad to hear you're having fun! :)
I love and enjoy your videos.
Thank you very much!! :)
most of the photographs in the second part of the video are great - you are giving me cool ideas for more abstract city photos - will definitely keep them in mind the next time I stroll around my city with the Z50
Thanks!! Glad to hear that! :)
How is the snap focus with 40mm? Have you tested it on the 40mm?
Just a bit, it works the same. Of course, the DOF / FOV are different so you have to take that into consideration. I've been shooting with a 40mm and zone focusing for years, so I'm used to this FOV. But frankly, I don't use Snap Focus on my GR very often. I don't often do that kind of quick-draw, up close street photography, as you can see in the video. :)
@@EYExplore I have never shot with a 40mm myself. Only with a 28, 35 and 50. With a 28 it’s easy to get everything in focus. For those quick shots it’s harder with a longer focal length, but I guess it’s just to practice :) I will have to test the 40mm in a camera store.
I love your shots and great video! 👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you so much!! :)
Besides, the 28mm lets you crop the picture to make it look like a 40mm, although of course the perspective and the bokeh will be slightly different
Yeah, cropping is an option which is one reason I prefer the GR3 overall. :)
I still love my gr3 and the crop mode equiv to 35mm is useful so still not thinking of getting the gr3x. great video
Makes sense if you're into cropping! :)
Cropping doesn't gives the same geometry/distortion as the 40mm, correct me if im wrong.
Awesome job, so inspiring! Congratulations to the photographer and cameraman.
Thank you so much!! :)
What is the link for a video about perspective? Thx
It's this one: th-cam.com/video/dTPC6o2b-jw/w-d-xo.html
I’ve been watching dozens of griii vs griiix comparison videos and I am so unsure about which one I should choose. I’m a photography newbie (just some experience in the past with another compact camera, the Canon g7x). I love the griii results that photographers on TH-cam are able to achieve but I’m not sure if I can take portraits or simply everyday shots on trips with friends, family and so on.
I would say, if you are in doubt, go for the GR3. It's wider lens is overall more versatile. You can often get a bit closer and get a tighter framing (not the quite the same as using a longer lens, but close enough). But it's often tricky to step back in tight places with the GR3x. That's my feeling after using both cameras for years now.
@@EYExplore thanks! I love your channel. It’s really interesting. Keep up the great work 😃
@@paulleeny82 Thank you! :)
I am interested in a Ricoh, but I am a bit concerned about dust entering the camera and getting on the sensor, have you had any issues with this?
I did have issued with dust on the GR2, but on the GR3 so far basically no issues. After over 2 years of regular use, I think there is a tiny amount of dust on the sensor but it's only visible on f/16 or so. I don't see it when using typical apertures. :)
@@EYExplore Thank for letting me know that 👍
Love this comparison. Now finally I know which Ricoh is for me. Thanks Łukasz.
So 28 or 40 haha
Great!! Don't leave me hanging... which one is it? :)
@@EYExplore I will go with 40mm.
@@marcinmalinowski7285 Nice!! :)
@@EYExplore thank You once again. I was missing this kind of comparison.
Dude! I love it! A day time video. I’m a super fan of your channel and photography 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you very much!! Been trying to mix it up lately! :)
Hi! Did you edit your photos? Or all these all straight out of camera? Would love to hear!
I always edit my photos, though usually not very much. But I prefer shooting in raw and editing them and never use JPGs from the camera. :)
It was interesting that comment. I mean, you said it in passing that when you are shooting 28mm you have to aim a little bit up, because you are shooting the floor, I guess mainly when you are shooting portrait orientation. That is true and I had never thought about it like that. You also mentioned you had the wrong settings when you shot the lady in the kimono… which brings the question… do you have a video where you explain standard settings you use when you go out?
Glad you found that little idea useful. As for settings, check out this video: th-cam.com/video/sNzG9KcxWw8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1SG4F_i8AH9uuvyG
@@EYExplore thx!
why such a slow shutter speed on that first one? Is it to keep iso down? just curious....great video!
Thanks! Which one is the first one? The stickers? I think the ISO was 400, so to keep it pretty low I did 1/20, which is not very slow for a still subject with the GR's stabilization. :)
@@EYExplore gotcha, thank you!
I keep going back and forth on the 28mm or the 40mm. I tend to not like to shoot too wide normally anyways, but then I'm also worried that I'll be missing out on stuff with the 40mm.
Think of it this way, you can always crop the 28, but you can't 'uncrop' the 40. It's also usually the case that you can't step back for some reason (narrow street) but you can almost always get closer to something (unless it's high up I guess).
@@EYExplore you’re right forsure, plus the 40mm makes snap focus a lot less interesting. I appreciate your videos man, they are fantastic. I just ordered the GRiii and look forward to messing with it this weekend
@@RiposteThis I hope you really enjoy the camera! :)
Very helpful, thank you! Some beautiful shots.
Thank you so much!! :)
Hi, check the firmware on the 28mm; I feel the new firmware has sharpened the focusing on mine, particularly for eyes and faces. This may be the difference you are suspecting
Thanks for the reminder! I've been meaning to update the firmware! :)
6:52 Actually it‘s not very practical to switch cameras all the time. I do it with my analog cameras all the time. I.e. one OM2 with a 400 ASA film and one with an 800 ASA. But it‘s still way easier than switching lenses, especially in dusty surroundings.
Yeah, after making this video I did find that I prefer just using one at a time. But not so much because of practicality, but because I enjoy using a single prime lens at a time, and switching constantly just makes me indecisive. :)
Thanks, that was very nice. I am waiting to receive the 28mm in early November, but the more I think about it (and you just confirm that), the more I want to own both. They complete each other so well! 😍
You'll love the GR3 thought! Enjoy it for a while and then get the GR3x. :)
@@EYExplore That's my plan yes😉
I'm currently in the market for an everyday camera - of course the GR series crossed my mind. My usual camera gear I use is my Nikon D7200 with a Sigma Art 18-35/1.8 and a Tamron 70-200/2.8. I'm noticing that I'm somehow losing interest in my hobby because of all this weight I have to carry around - especially on hot summer days. Wondering on which version I should consider regarding focal length - seems the GRIIIx would be right in the middle of my 18-35. But roaming around cities I'm wondering if it's not to close for everyday/touristy stuff and the 28mm overall a more versatile focal length for such scenarios. The easy answer is probably to get both. haha But that's why I am looking towards other options as well, like the Fuji X-E4 or maybe even a x-pro3 with interchangeable lens options...which adds again a lot of bulk. I mean I like the X-T4 as well but if you put a zoom lens on that you are not that so far away from my D7200 with a prime lens. Any long time experience regarding dust on the sensor on the GR cameras? Also a point which let me tend towards a system camera and easier cleaning.
If I could only have one, it would be the GR3. The 28mm FOV is just more versatile for me. I know I can use it more situations than the other one. As for dust, on my old GR2 I had quite a bit of dust. However, on my GR3, after about a 1.5 years of heavy use there is no dust on the sensor. I'm very happy about that. :)
@@EYExplore Thank you for your fast reply! I'm with you - as an everyday camera for various situations I'm probably safer with the wider lens. Thinking of scenarios like grabing spontaneous shots when I am with friends at their/my home - a 40mm could be to close for that. Thanks for the piece of mind regarding dust - probably the ultrasonic cleaning feature helps as well - I think they included it from the GRIII onwards.
@@SirWeasel Yeah, I'm sure it helps and I think they improved the sealing a lot. No complaints so far!
Is there any battery improvement for GR IIIx compare to GR III .? Thanks
No, the cameras are identical in every way except for the lens.
@@EYExplore thx for reply
hello there I am new to your channel when I am considering this camera. read quite a lots of comments talking about the dust and heating issue, do you have such an issue?
No issues with dust. Never even heard of heating issues. It does get warm on a hot sunny day but hasn't affected operation at all.
@@EYExplore thanks for your reply! Just get me a new GRiii today! Hope everything is good
@@jamiew4851 Awesome!! Enjoy! :)
Is the GR IIIx Sharper then GR III?
I could not see a difference in sharpness between the two cameras.
Close is what street is all about. 28 is a perfect lens for that. Get up close and be in the photo when viewing it or be a person looking at a scene. Some of the best shots are done up close and personal. I think the 40 makes for better street portraits. The choice will always be the gr3 street and candid and the gr3x for portrait and visual story telling in a journalistic way. Pick your poison
I appreciate your opinion but I disagree. There is certainly a type of street photography that works best up close (in the style of Suzuki or Gilden). But plenty of great street photography has been done on a 50 or longer (Saul Leiter comes to mind, but there are others). Anyway, it's matter of personal creative vision, not a set of rules that one focal length is for this and the other is for that. That's stupid. You can do great portraits on a 28mm too! :)
Love the channel, I've been following for some time now and really enjoy your presentation style and walkabouts through these beautiful cities. I own the GR3 and 3X and find that both cameras compliment each other perfectly; I shoot in RAW and do my post in Lightroom. Do you use RAW or JPEG with one of the GR's presets, also, how do you find the battery life? On a days shooting with both camera's I tend to use two batteries per camera. Thanks again for the great videos!
Thank you so much!! I only shoot in raw and enjoy editing my photos in Adobe Camera Raw. The battery life is sufficient for me. I carry one spare battery and it's usually more than enough (I rarely use it) on a given outing. With both cameras, I have 3 batteries in total and it's also plenty. :)
Edit: FYI for those interested Daikokuten/大黒天 roughly translates to Great Black Heaven
2:45 I was gonna say I know those 3 kanji and I'm only on lvl 12 so you should totally know them 😹
But I agree , when on the spot I often struggle as personally my recollection skills aren't anywhere near as good as my recognition skills . That's why I only like translating from text 😅
Yeah, for me, when I'm speaking English and not thinking about kanji I basically can't read them haha. But when I'm on my own, I'm constantly reading signs and things I see around for practice and I fair much better. :)
How about GR II VS GR III? Do you think III (either one) would be reasonable upgrade from the II?
Good question! To me the GR3 is better is every way, so it's no competition. The only advantage the GR2 has is the flash, but I almost never used it. However, even though it's better, if you're happy you're happy with your GR2 then there is no point to switch right away, especially is cost is an issue. But if it's in your budget, I highly recommend getting a GR3. I could never go back to the GR2 at this point.
How do both perform in low light situations? Is the autofocus good in low light situations?
Yes, it's very good. Not as good as say my Nikon Z6, but it's understandable consider the smaller size and cost of the GR. It's also great at low light because of the stabilization. You can comfortably get the shutter speed down to 1/4 and even 1/2 if you are careful, which allows you to keep the ISO.
@@EYExplore I’d love to see a comparison between the Ricoh and its rival the Fuji X100v
@@mahdiali6732 Ah maybe some day. My goal is not really to be a camera review channel and I have no personal interest in getting a Fuji and learning it's idiosyncrasies to the point that I could effectively compare them.
Hey, i own a Sony Alpha 6000 with 16-50 lens. I want to do way more street photography and start to carry my camera everywhere. Therefore i want to switch to a smaller camera. Now the question is: GRiii or GRiiix?… i like both image styles🫠 im not very experienced in street photography. Greetings
Both are great cameras! I think I explain my preferences very well in the video. :)
Haha Lukas getting slapped by the inflatable 😂 quality content 🤣😉
It was Axel's idea! :)
Just stumbled upon your channel. As a recent switcher from Canon to Nikon Z6ii, will look forward to your other videos. But i’ve been on the hung for a far more portable, carry with you always option hence the draw to the Ricoh. My biggest question and concern is with the comment many make that in low light the focus is slow and hunts. What is your experience, and if that is he reality, can you manage for it by opting for the camera’s zone focus mode? Thanks, Craig
The GR3 is not that bad in low light and it was a huge improvement from the GR2. But you can't expect performance on par with a Z6II for example. I think it's also important to know how to work with the AF system rather than against it. I always use 'Pin-point AF' which is a tiny, center-point AF mode. With this, I can point the camera at things on which I know it will focus well. So, even in generally low light situations there are points of contrast and brightness, so I try to focus on those, helping the camera find a solid AF target. With that, I rarely have issues with AF in low light.
@@EYExplore Great, i appreciate your additional thoughts. Best regards
Thank you for the amazing video! I bought both and I'm trying them out for a few weeks before I have to return one. I just can't decide which one to keep. I'm probably going to use it more for general travel. What would you choose? I know both are amazing cameras lol 🙂
Having had both for a while now, I can safely say that I find the GR3 28mm more versatile, especially for travel. I just find myself in more situations where I can just step forward, but not back up. Of course, changing position changes perspective, but it's a worthwhile tradeoff.
Still can't decide which one to buy, though I am thinking of purchasing the GR3x since I already own GRII, what do you think? @EYExplore
I think if you want something new, get a GR3x, but if you really like the 28mm equivalent FOV of your GR2, and you just want to upgrade the tech specs (sensor, AF, stabilization), then stick with the GR3. I personally prefer the GR3 over the GR3x at this point. I just like the focal length more. :)
Love the intro
Hehe, thanks! :)
Xpro3 with the 27mm around my neck and my GrIII in my pocket!
Nice combo!! :)
Interesting comparison between both and approach of compositions👌🏻
Thanks! :)
Have you had a chance to play with the Ricoh GT-2?
No, I have not. Looks interesting though!
First off, best opening ever! 😂 Second, I appreciated the real-time comparison between these two. I may go for the 40mm but probably not until a GR4 model comes out. Prices are just a bit high these days 🤙🏼
Thanks!! Yeah, the prices are crazy these days!
How much is that camera?
I'm not 100% sure but I wanna say about 1000 USD.
@@EYExplore ₱50,000.00 Philippines money
Good video and thoughts, but schlepping two ultra compact cameras around for their different focal lengths = no way for me. The GRIII is a great camera in its own right (Ive only used the 28mm equiv version) but at some point when you shoot prime you simply have to make some compositional decisions and compromises and to me, thats part of the fun. If Im going to consider packing 2 essentially identical cameras around why not a single compact zoomer or a super small ILC and a second prime lens? Just saying…
Yeah, sure, I don't think it's a long term solution, but it was a fun experiment on the day. :)
I would love to hear your thoughts on the ricoh gr3x vs fuji x100v. Cheers
Yeah, it's a logical comparison but I've never shot with an X100V and have no interest in getting into another camera system. Ricoh and Nikon are more than enough for my needs! :)
Great and very useful comparison. Lovely that you ended the walk in front of the Ricoh Imaging Square in Ginza.
Concerning lenses for beginners, I agree that 40mm equiv is the best for that. Actually I consider fixed focal lengths better than a zoom lens for beginners, since it encourages thinking about composition when framing a subject as you excellently demonstrated in your video. Zooms are too easy in that respect.
Thanks! I totally agree about primes. The constraints they provide cultivate learning and creativity. :)
Great video!!! Been debating if I should get the 28 or 49 as my first gr….so hard to decide!
If I could only have one, I would have the 28mm. :)
@@EYExplore Why?
@@HamsterKindly it's more versatile. You can always get closer or crop. :)
Maybe they should come up with a GRIV with a zoom lens like a LUMIX LX100
I think it could be cool. I believe Ricoh used to make some old Ricoh GR Digitals with zoom lenses. :)
Very helpful: with 40mm we can keep distance from objects.
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
I think one of the advantages of the 28mm GR3 is that you have 35mm & 50mm crop modes, so a little either side of the 40mm GR3X, which only has 50mm & 71mm crop modes, so maybe too long for street, but more suited overall for portraiture. Just my thoughts.
Yeah, that makes sense if crop modes are your thing. I almost never significantly crop my photos. Sure, I might straighten a shot or slighty crop to remove some distracting objects from the edge of the frame, but I never make a massive crop or shoot in the crop modes. Of course, that's just my personal preference, not a universal prescription on how to shoot. :)
@@EYExplore Think you've missed the point. Please forgive. Cropping in the camera is not like cropping an existing image - it is more like changing the focal length of the lens. (I use GRiii every day).
@@andrewelliott4436 I won't argue with you, but I fail to see how it's like changing the focal length. Changing the focal length does two things: 1) it changes the FOV, and 2) it changes the DOF. That's it! But cropping only changes the FOV. Whether you do it in camera or in post, it's the same thing in terms of results. That's why it's called a 'crop' mode.
The only difference I see between doing it while you're shooting is that you get to see you crop 'live' so you can frame it in the moment. I prefer to keep the full sensor data and then just crop later if necessary.
@@EYExplore is this still true for you? Your other replies seem to conflict with this and state the crop does provide more than just a 'live crop view'
@@yawarlol Sorry, perhaps I don't get your question. Basically, the resulting image whether your crop in camera or in post will be exactly the same. But, I can see how seeing the crop while you're shooting can be beneficial and help with framing. I don't find this benefit worth it and would rather shoot with the entire frame and then worry about cropping in post. Hope that helps! :)
Haha, you should get a dual bracket and hold up both cameras and one ;) I was torn between the two cameras. I went with the III, but I'm still conflicted.
Haha, yeah I thought about that, at least as a joke. Be happy! It's a great camera either way. :)
Behind the Video Camera, Axellent
Haha, I love it! :)
GReat video!!..👍🏼😆
Thank you!! :)
Haha what an opening!
:)
I'm planning to buy either one of these in January but I can't decide.
Get the GR3 (non X) version. I find it much more natural to use and more versatile. :)
31:16 RICOH ads complete this vlog :D
LOL yeah there have a showroom in the middle of Ginza. I didn't go there consciously but as we were getting close the thought did cross my mind. :)
I would put it this way - 40mm you can’t take wider shot but gives you more different shooting experiences. 28mm is ok wide that if you want to shoot closer you need to walk closer to the subject (if possible), more people shooting streets ok with that. Closer to people, talk to them etc. It gives you flexibility IMH. 40mm is great if you bored of/not really a wide angle guy. Some people just can’t shoot wide. 40mm really lock you in tighter. I see 28mm you can still crop in nicely without losing quality. So it’s really up to your style and your experience.
Yeah, pretty much it! I think some people don't wanna get close either, so 40mm works well. Cropping is possible of course, but you're losing pixels. Doesn't matter for social media, but still.... :)
5:11 My dream lol
Ha! :)
I have Fujifilm XF10 and it’s also a little too wide because it’s lens is 18,5mm. So maybe 23, 28 or some else would be better, even 50mm might be better 😅 keep going man, your viseos are great! 👍
Thank you very much!! :)
Is the OG more forgiving when autofocus misses its target by a little bit?
In theory, yes, because it has a bit more DOF thanks to the shorter focal length.
The evolution of street photography :
-All started with 50 mm leicas
-next trend was 35 mm
-after that we had the 28 mm phase
-In my option the best street photos have been taken in the 24 mm phase.
If you use 2 cameras... One with 24 mm and one with 85 mm.
Cool, but I don't think it's that simple though. Lenses are 'better' than one another. They are just tools for different tasks. It depends on your creative vision. :)
Why just use the 35mm crop mode on the GR III? It beats swapping two cameras constantly.
Because you get less resolution. I don't bother with crop modes. If I need to crop, I just do it in post. The point here was to see how it is to use both cameras in the same time.
@@EYExplore I understand your point. In-camera crop modes are fine for my use. They can give you better composition. The sensor has 24MP resolution that is plenty already considering I used to shoot 6MP Canon for billboard use. Second, I doubt people shoot for mural prints, and probably their images end up being viewed on phones anyways. Third, who has time to post? Not me. I shoot jpegs set to XS image size.
@@viewlesswind Well, that's great for you then! Everyone has different needs. :)
Great video thanks mate. All these crop modes though (or doing it in post) are fake because you don't have the true 'compression look' & layers of using a 35mm or 50mm. Background is still far away if you can't, or dont have time, to move closer to capture the moment. If there was say a true 60-75mm equiv. GRiii I'd carry that with my GRiii & be real happy😂 May still get the GRiiix with teleconverter & have that around neck (way lighter than my XT2 & 50mm) and GRiii in pocket. A superlight all-day street combo with the benefits of using same cameras: menus, setup, JPEG output, spare batteries etc...😊
Yeah, which is one reason I don't use them. But then again, you don't have a 28mm and 40mm with these cameras either. They are in fact 18mm and 26mm lenses. :)
I like the look of the GR III better.
You mean compared to the GR IIIx? They look practically identical...
@@EYExplore Yes I mean focal length. The images look better wide in my opinion.
@@techdeficit8661 Ah, haha sorry! For some reason I thought you meant the look of the camera. Of course you meant the photos it takes... I dunno what I was thinking. Anyway, fair enough! :)
That intro! lol
Hehe :)
The beginning is awesome xD I really want the GR IIIx but due to part shortage won't get it this year... Well, at least I can see you guys doing some nice work with it
Yeah, it seems to be tough to get one. Try ordering from Amazon Japan. They might deliver it to your country. :)
@@EYExplore that’s a nice idea, I’ll try 😊 ありがとうございます♪😊
I thought the lastest shot were good even on a big screen ;)
Awesome! Yes, in the end I thought so too. The silhouettes are still pretty noticeable. :)
Alan Walker with camera
Who is that?
For street and documetary I prefer 24-35mm lenses (full-frame). For example the new iPhone 14 comes with 24mm. For street you definitely don't want to zoom.
That's why the GRs comes with 28mm and 40mm equivalent. I disagree however that for street photographer you don't want a zoom. I prefer a prime lenses, but I've zoom lenses and they also have their uses. It's a matter of personal preference. :)
Everbody looks like NPCs in background
Hahaha, we are all each other's NPCs. :)
Double fist 😳
why is no one else laughing at the intro
I did!!
I was! :)
Me too 😅
Why the heck do you hide your face??
Because right before we shot the video I got done robbing a bank.
@@EYExplore 😂😂😂
Deveria mostrar mais fotos das câmeras e menos blá-blá-blá
I think we showed plenty of pictures. :)
The high quality you used to have on this TH-cam channel has disappeared on late. I'm interested in getting another camera, even less a mirrorless one. You can't be everything to everyone. So either shape up or be shipped out. That's means, I'll unsubscribe your channel.
Well I shoot a different camera & I love this channel because of the How To's and his knowledge about photography ! Remember the camera is just a tool, depends on how you use it !! And he is doing a terrific job!!!!
Thanks for watching until now. What do you feel is lacking lately?
@@taterandy3958 Thank you so much! :)
@@EYExplore With pleasure!
I love these long and relaxed videos. Only wished you touched upon snap focus and if you use it differently on the x or find it harder
Thank you!! Yeah, I realized that I didn't talk about it much but it's because I honestly don't use it much. It doesn't factor into my shooting style and the subjects I'm interested in. :)