Daniel underperforms in comp because he puts a lot of pressure on himself by sharing his times. The fact these guys are making it worse by saying he needs to prove himself in comp or he's fake does not help at all. The UK is great though, we'll look after him :)
I see what you're trying to say here, and I guess I can partly agree. Underperforming in a competition is definitely easy to pull off, I guess it's just a matter of time to see what Daniel will do in the future
didn’t even know about this until now, I think the difference between comp performance and at home performance is sooooo important in cubing rn, it can be so hard to get a good result officially when you really want it. The key is not caring. Hoping to see some awesome official results from ppl like Daniel and elyas, I’m sure it will happen very soon!
The not caring is true. My last comp I really wanted a sub 10 3x3 single. First two rounds I was sweating over it and didn’t get it. Final round thought “this is my time to shine” first 4 solves were my worse of the day. Since I had been slowing down throughout the day I went into the last solve thinking “damn I got to wait next comp to get sub 10, let me do this solve and drive home.” I got a 9.86.
I must admit watching that convo unfold during the Essex Winter comp (with a bunch of other UK cubers including Daniel himself) was quite funny as you see AlexM (cant remember last name) go on about how Dylan is just scared lol, but I know for certain that Daniel is capable of those times if he doesnt put too much pressure on himself.
In my opinion discussions like this are unesacary. Home solves don't matter at all and they never did so even if Daniel was fake why should we care(I don't think he is). Daniel and other fast young pyraminxers (elyas) have no reason to be fake their home solves and these arguments are often started by one thing and that's ego. If anyone in wr10 posted this average no one would've batter an eye. I'm very proud of Daniel making history even if it's unofficial, he is the future of the event and no one is going to convince me otherwise.
Just want to point out that the just cause someone is one of the best and can definitely pull something off given the right conditions doesn't mean they won't cheat/fake results. Dream was a top Minecraft speedrunner and was definitely able to get very good times depending on the world he got but he still cheated a run.
Being someone who has been sitting next to him in a pyra round, his turning speed (cameras don't do it justice) and the fact he definitely does better at home gives me no doubt he can get a sub-1 average with enough luck
i dont really think daniel has been faking solves, performing well in a short event like pyra is not easy at all, so i dont think having a 2.35 PR avg and averaging 1.7/1.8 is so unrealistic, especially if, like daniel, you started competing this year. about the average, it is true that getting 1.03 and 1.07 on the 3rd and 4th solves is really insane, i average 2.2 globally but i dont think i could get those times on that scrambles even with multiple attemps, but daniel has a way better turning than me so those times could be legit. on the other hand, the 1st and 5th are way more reasonable and basically 100% legit i hope this average and the rest of daniel's times arent fake, if he really improved so much in pyra in such a short time he could very well become one of the greatest in the world and get great results in comp as well
Wait there's a pyra cubers discord that I'm not in? Anyways, I really like this video, faking times is really easy to do and essentially comes down to trust and integrity. In the cubing community I think there's enough of this to be able to trust most people on what they can do unofficially.
I personally don’t think it’s fake, ive been in several calls with daniel where he’s proven he gets sub-1 often enough to give credibility and even talking to him in competitions and watching him solve officially it’s simple competition pressure and nerves that seem to best him (a few timer fails but hey) a few competitions down the line once he realises he’s got nothing to worry i believe he will crank out a world record
First time to know this and the DC server for the pyraminxers, I think it's not fake because I think he really can done those solve in that time, and he also has much practice. (Just like your video say. BTW, does that server have some criteria to get in? Like world ranking or something?)
I'm not too good at pyra but as someone who's been called out by faking by a prominent solver, I feel like I have some basis to speak here. First of all, saying that because some dumb ass kid "faked" a 19 or 20 move 2x2 scramble is not a fair comparison. Second of all, calling out dyco is kind of uncool, as it's fair to have some suspicion, especially considering how unlikely it'd be to have that scramble set in the same ao5, let alone perform at peak performance on all of them. I definitely have some suspicion around a few clock solvers, and it really doesn't matter what they get at home to determine their skill. The way I proved my legitimacy having a shit official average is to have people see me solving in regular conditions. Finally, your point among individual singles doesn't mean that it is feasible to get them in succession. If I pulled a 2.3 clock average out of my ass because I can get those times on 8 movers, doesn't mean that it is real. Looking back at some of his discord messages, there is definitely a decent amount of suspicion to be raised but it's difficult to say for sure. I'm kind of leaning towards fake but I'm also not that good at pyra so I don't have the best understanding of this event.
When you mentioned that all those scrambles happening in a row is unlikely, when someone has done multiple 10000s of solves that likelihood dramatically increases. One of the scrambles wasnt particularly amazing (no. 2 was pretty average by Daniel's standards), so is 4/5 easy scrams in like 10k solves really that unrealistic? Since I practice a lot of 2x2 personally I do get quite a few averages of 5 with 3 dumb scrambles (solved faces, 7 movers etc) so I can somewhat vouch the fact that it's not too crazy to get those scrambles in a row
I think you also have to take into account that Daniel Partridge probably has the best pyra turning in the world or is at least close (it’s is undeniable as there is video proof) which means that he is more likely to get very good small averages. Also in short events it’s very possible to get a group of good scrambles like this and I’ve even seen official rounds which have incredible scrambles in pyra. When someone is doing 10s of thousands of solves they’re gonna get some crazy scrambles.
@@tigersandcats that is a fair point, but being able to produce results at his highest level for the entirety of the average seems a bit unrealistic. If I were to take a guess on how he was faking it would likely be just trying scrams again.
@@carterthomascubing only 4 solves had to be insane for him to get the average, as the 1.78 has become almost his global average nowadays, even if his competition results dont show that.
i agree that someone with an 8 average cannot get 26 tps (also him agreeing it was fake) is fake, but if you look at my profile i have a 5.37 average in comp, that was done in october last year and i am pretty comfortably sub 3 with full cll now (also i plus twoed 3 solves in the 5 average, but asides from the point).
Daniel underperforms in comp because he puts a lot of pressure on himself by sharing his times. The fact these guys are making it worse by saying he needs to prove himself in comp or he's fake does not help at all. The UK is great though, we'll look after him :)
What a nice lad we have here
I agree, people need to consider comp nerves when comparing comp solves to at home solves.
proceeds to get er average
I see what you're trying to say here, and I guess I can partly agree. Underperforming in a competition is definitely easy to pull off, I guess it's just a matter of time to see what Daniel will do in the future
didn’t even know about this until now, I think the difference between comp performance and at home performance is sooooo important in cubing rn, it can be so hard to get a good result officially when you really want it. The key is not caring. Hoping to see some awesome official results from ppl like Daniel and elyas, I’m sure it will happen very soon!
The not caring is true. My last comp I really wanted a sub 10 3x3 single. First two rounds I was sweating over it and didn’t get it. Final round thought “this is my time to shine” first 4 solves were my worse of the day. Since I had been slowing down throughout the day I went into the last solve thinking “damn I got to wait next comp to get sub 10, let me do this solve and drive home.” I got a 9.86.
I love how they call elyas sus when he literally has a ton of video evidence proving he's world class
Edit: great video btw
Kalin 💀💀💀
elay@@ElyasEyouNZ
I must admit watching that convo unfold during the Essex Winter comp (with a bunch of other UK cubers including Daniel himself) was quite funny as you see AlexM (cant remember last name) go on about how Dylan is just scared lol, but I know for certain that Daniel is capable of those times if he doesnt put too much pressure on himself.
In my opinion discussions like this are unesacary. Home solves don't matter at all and they never did so even if Daniel was fake why should we care(I don't think he is). Daniel and other fast young pyraminxers (elyas) have no reason to be fake their home solves and these arguments are often started by one thing and that's ego. If anyone in wr10 posted this average no one would've batter an eye. I'm very proud of Daniel making history even if it's unofficial, he is the future of the event and no one is going to convince me otherwise.
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Just want to point out that the just cause someone is one of the best and can definitely pull something off given the right conditions doesn't mean they won't cheat/fake results. Dream was a top Minecraft speedrunner and was definitely able to get very good times depending on the world he got but he still cheated a run.
Daniel is an absolute monster. Big things coming soon.
Being someone who has been sitting next to him in a pyra round, his turning speed (cameras don't do it justice) and the fact he definitely does better at home gives me no doubt he can get a sub-1 average with enough luck
shoutout daniel partridge, genuinely my favourite cuber
i dont really think daniel has been faking solves, performing well in a short event like pyra is not easy at all, so i dont think having a 2.35 PR avg and averaging 1.7/1.8 is so unrealistic, especially if, like daniel, you started competing this year.
about the average, it is true that getting 1.03 and 1.07 on the 3rd and 4th solves is really insane, i average 2.2 globally but i dont think i could get those times on that scrambles even with multiple attemps, but daniel has a way better turning than me so those times could be legit. on the other hand, the 1st and 5th are way more reasonable and basically 100% legit
i hope this average and the rest of daniel's times arent fake, if he really improved so much in pyra in such a short time he could very well become one of the greatest in the world and get great results in comp as well
Wait there's a pyra cubers discord that I'm not in? Anyways, I really like this video, faking times is really easy to do and essentially comes down to trust and integrity. In the cubing community I think there's enough of this to be able to trust most people on what they can do unofficially.
Ok fine I admit it all my 7x7 world records are fake
lmao
fax
what about your sq1 world worsts
I personally don’t think it’s fake, ive been in several calls with daniel where he’s proven he gets sub-1 often enough to give credibility and even talking to him in competitions and watching him solve officially it’s simple competition pressure and nerves that seem to best him (a few timer fails but hey) a few competitions down the line once he realises he’s got nothing to worry i believe he will crank out a world record
"5 move layer and a T perm - 26 TPS?"
Me using a 10 move T perm (sledge R U2' R' U sledge):
@@big58538 it is since I meant 2x2. And also you were right about the movecount -- it is 11 and I forgot
First time to know this and the DC server for the pyraminxers, I think it's not fake because I think he really can done those solve in that time, and he also has much practice. (Just like your video say. BTW, does that server have some criteria to get in? Like world ranking or something?)
No there's not anyone can join
@@thecubingdufus5124 Thanks!
bear in mind dan's only been to like 10 comps so he hasn't had a chance to get these crazy averages yet
thats still 10 more than you
tfw 10 comps 2022 id wtf
@@henryjones1408 Who are you fighting, dude? He’s saying that Dan hasn’t had as many chances to prove himself, calm down.
@@randomcubestuff3426 there's way too many comps in england
@@galoomba5559 Galoomba
whoa high quality commentary video yay
I'm not too good at pyra but as someone who's been called out by faking by a prominent solver, I feel like I have some basis to speak here. First of all, saying that because some dumb ass kid "faked" a 19 or 20 move 2x2 scramble is not a fair comparison. Second of all, calling out dyco is kind of uncool, as it's fair to have some suspicion, especially considering how unlikely it'd be to have that scramble set in the same ao5, let alone perform at peak performance on all of them. I definitely have some suspicion around a few clock solvers, and it really doesn't matter what they get at home to determine their skill. The way I proved my legitimacy having a shit official average is to have people see me solving in regular conditions. Finally, your point among individual singles doesn't mean that it is feasible to get them in succession. If I pulled a 2.3 clock average out of my ass because I can get those times on 8 movers, doesn't mean that it is real. Looking back at some of his discord messages, there is definitely a decent amount of suspicion to be raised but it's difficult to say for sure. I'm kind of leaning towards fake but I'm also not that good at pyra so I don't have the best understanding of this event.
When you mentioned that all those scrambles happening in a row is unlikely, when someone has done multiple 10000s of solves that likelihood dramatically increases. One of the scrambles wasnt particularly amazing (no. 2 was pretty average by Daniel's standards), so is 4/5 easy scrams in like 10k solves really that unrealistic? Since I practice a lot of 2x2 personally I do get quite a few averages of 5 with 3 dumb scrambles (solved faces, 7 movers etc) so I can somewhat vouch the fact that it's not too crazy to get those scrambles in a row
Good pyraminx scrambles are not really that rare. Getting those scrambles in an average of 5 isn't as unlikely as you might think.
I think you also have to take into account that Daniel Partridge probably has the best pyra turning in the world or is at least close (it’s is undeniable as there is video proof) which means that he is more likely to get very good small averages. Also in short events it’s very possible to get a group of good scrambles like this and I’ve even seen official rounds which have incredible scrambles in pyra. When someone is doing 10s of thousands of solves they’re gonna get some crazy scrambles.
@@tigersandcats that is a fair point, but being able to produce results at his highest level for the entirety of the average seems a bit unrealistic. If I were to take a guess on how he was faking it would likely be just trying scrams again.
@@carterthomascubing only 4 solves had to be insane for him to get the average, as the 1.78 has become almost his global average nowadays, even if his competition results dont show that.
I agree with you
Me with a 5 official 2x2 average:
You average 4
Brilliant video, you make all the right points.
Lmao I know that Heych perm guy, he may or may not have a 5 second 3x3 single but I'm not sure its real
no daniel porridge wouldnt
lmfao
i agree that someone with an 8 average cannot get 26 tps (also him agreeing it was fake) is fake, but if you look at my profile i have a 5.37 average in comp, that was done in october last year and i am pretty comfortably sub 3 with full cll now (also i plus twoed 3 solves in the 5 average, but asides from the point).
Nobody can get 26tps
he just got a Ao5 thats .02 of the wr
love this video
great video!
Plot twist: every 3x3 solve in the vid was faked 😀
Also, y would you cheat in fkin pyra looool
first
No one cares and I would have been first, but didn't comment it because it is no achievement or something
Yeah
don't care go cry to your dead parents
thank you!! i really wanted to know who was first to comment on this video