A video about fake solves

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2022
  • This whole controversy happened yesterday and I wanted to make a video about it, so I did. It might be a bit more hastily made than some of my other rant videos, but I think it's important to address people being unnecessarily toxic in the community.

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  • @benstokes3852
    @benstokes3852 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Daniel underperforms in comp because he puts a lot of pressure on himself by sharing his times. The fact these guys are making it worse by saying he needs to prove himself in comp or he's fake does not help at all. The UK is great though, we'll look after him :)

    • @aronstapleton7694
      @aronstapleton7694 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a nice lad we have here

    • @ZebraCubes
      @ZebraCubes ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, people need to consider comp nerves when comparing comp solves to at home solves.

    • @IDONTPAYMYTAX
      @IDONTPAYMYTAX ปีที่แล้ว

      proceeds to get er average

  • @ElyasEyouNZ
    @ElyasEyouNZ ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I see what you're trying to say here, and I guess I can partly agree. Underperforming in a competition is definitely easy to pull off, I guess it's just a matter of time to see what Daniel will do in the future

  • @elijah.rain.phelps
    @elijah.rain.phelps ปีที่แล้ว +31

    didn’t even know about this until now, I think the difference between comp performance and at home performance is sooooo important in cubing rn, it can be so hard to get a good result officially when you really want it. The key is not caring. Hoping to see some awesome official results from ppl like Daniel and elyas, I’m sure it will happen very soon!

    • @dylangirouard
      @dylangirouard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The not caring is true. My last comp I really wanted a sub 10 3x3 single. First two rounds I was sweating over it and didn’t get it. Final round thought “this is my time to shine” first 4 solves were my worse of the day. Since I had been slowing down throughout the day I went into the last solve thinking “damn I got to wait next comp to get sub 10, let me do this solve and drive home.” I got a 9.86.

  • @fc3x336
    @fc3x336 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I must admit watching that convo unfold during the Essex Winter comp (with a bunch of other UK cubers including Daniel himself) was quite funny as you see AlexM (cant remember last name) go on about how Dylan is just scared lol, but I know for certain that Daniel is capable of those times if he doesnt put too much pressure on himself.

  • @julesgraham
    @julesgraham ปีที่แล้ว +20

    In my opinion discussions like this are unesacary. Home solves don't matter at all and they never did so even if Daniel was fake why should we care(I don't think he is). Daniel and other fast young pyraminxers (elyas) have no reason to be fake their home solves and these arguments are often started by one thing and that's ego. If anyone in wr10 posted this average no one would've batter an eye. I'm very proud of Daniel making history even if it's unofficial, he is the future of the event and no one is going to convince me otherwise.

    • @EquatorCubing_
      @EquatorCubing_ ปีที่แล้ว

      meow

    • @SavageSeven-ed3xd
      @SavageSeven-ed3xd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just want to point out that the just cause someone is one of the best and can definitely pull something off given the right conditions doesn't mean they won't cheat/fake results. Dream was a top Minecraft speedrunner and was definitely able to get very good times depending on the world he got but he still cheated a run.

  • @ScoochCubing
    @ScoochCubing ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love how they call elyas sus when he literally has a ton of video evidence proving he's world class
    Edit: great video btw

  • @harrysavage9213
    @harrysavage9213 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Daniel is an absolute monster. Big things coming soon.

  • @JTiger1046
    @JTiger1046 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    shoutout daniel partridge, genuinely my favourite cuber

  • @expiredcubing
    @expiredcubing ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait there's a pyra cubers discord that I'm not in? Anyways, I really like this video, faking times is really easy to do and essentially comes down to trust and integrity. In the cubing community I think there's enough of this to be able to trust most people on what they can do unofficially.

  • @davenx3163
    @davenx3163 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i dont really think daniel has been faking solves, performing well in a short event like pyra is not easy at all, so i dont think having a 2.35 PR avg and averaging 1.7/1.8 is so unrealistic, especially if, like daniel, you started competing this year.
    about the average, it is true that getting 1.03 and 1.07 on the 3rd and 4th solves is really insane, i average 2.2 globally but i dont think i could get those times on that scrambles even with multiple attemps, but daniel has a way better turning than me so those times could be legit. on the other hand, the 1st and 5th are way more reasonable and basically 100% legit
    i hope this average and the rest of daniel's times arent fake, if he really improved so much in pyra in such a short time he could very well become one of the greatest in the world and get great results in comp as well

  • @cubest817
    @cubest817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time to know this and the DC server for the pyraminxers, I think it's not fake because I think he really can done those solve in that time, and he also has much practice. (Just like your video say. BTW, does that server have some criteria to get in? Like world ranking or something?)

    • @thecubingdufus5124
      @thecubingdufus5124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No there's not anyone can join

    • @cubest817
      @cubest817 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thecubingdufus5124 Thanks!

  • @misflex9216
    @misflex9216 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video, you make all the right points.

  • @James_Anderson_
    @James_Anderson_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Being someone who has been sitting next to him in a pyra round, his turning speed (cameras don't do it justice) and the fact he definitely does better at home gives me no doubt he can get a sub-1 average with enough luck

  • @makskulas5833
    @makskulas5833 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with you

  • @davidepstein7397
    @davidepstein7397 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ok fine I admit it all my 7x7 world records are fake

  • @imcasey
    @imcasey ปีที่แล้ว +2

    whoa high quality commentary video yay

  • @bithlasagne1898
    @bithlasagne1898 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    bear in mind dan's only been to like 10 comps so he hasn't had a chance to get these crazy averages yet

    • @henryjones1408
      @henryjones1408 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats still 10 more than you

    • @randomcubestuff3426
      @randomcubestuff3426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tfw 10 comps 2022 id wtf

    • @TheCubologist
      @TheCubologist ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@henryjones1408 Who are you fighting, dude? He’s saying that Dan hasn’t had as many chances to prove himself, calm down.

    • @galoomba5559
      @galoomba5559 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randomcubestuff3426 there's way too many comps in england

    • @randomcubestuff3426
      @randomcubestuff3426 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@galoomba5559 Galoomba

  • @soaphieex
    @soaphieex ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I personally don’t think it’s fake, ive been in several calls with daniel where he’s proven he gets sub-1 often enough to give credibility and even talking to him in competitions and watching him solve officially it’s simple competition pressure and nerves that seem to best him (a few timer fails but hey) a few competitions down the line once he realises he’s got nothing to worry i believe he will crank out a world record

  • @saiph8007
    @saiph8007 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this video

  • @ItsLuminousOfficial
    @ItsLuminousOfficial ปีที่แล้ว

    great video!

  • @mo2cubing
    @mo2cubing ปีที่แล้ว

    "5 move layer and a T perm - 26 TPS?"
    Me using a 10 move T perm (sledge R U2' R' U sledge):

    • @mo2cubing
      @mo2cubing ปีที่แล้ว

      @@big58538 it is since I meant 2x2. And also you were right about the movecount -- it is 11 and I forgot

  • @carterthomas342
    @carterthomas342 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm not too good at pyra but as someone who's been called out by faking by a prominent solver, I feel like I have some basis to speak here. First of all, saying that because some dumb ass kid "faked" a 19 or 20 move 2x2 scramble is not a fair comparison. Second of all, calling out dyco is kind of uncool, as it's fair to have some suspicion, especially considering how unlikely it'd be to have that scramble set in the same ao5, let alone perform at peak performance on all of them. I definitely have some suspicion around a few clock solvers, and it really doesn't matter what they get at home to determine their skill. The way I proved my legitimacy having a shit official average is to have people see me solving in regular conditions. Finally, your point among individual singles doesn't mean that it is feasible to get them in succession. If I pulled a 2.3 clock average out of my ass because I can get those times on 8 movers, doesn't mean that it is real. Looking back at some of his discord messages, there is definitely a decent amount of suspicion to be raised but it's difficult to say for sure. I'm kind of leaning towards fake but I'm also not that good at pyra so I don't have the best understanding of this event.

    • @fc3x336
      @fc3x336 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When you mentioned that all those scrambles happening in a row is unlikely, when someone has done multiple 10000s of solves that likelihood dramatically increases. One of the scrambles wasnt particularly amazing (no. 2 was pretty average by Daniel's standards), so is 4/5 easy scrams in like 10k solves really that unrealistic? Since I practice a lot of 2x2 personally I do get quite a few averages of 5 with 3 dumb scrambles (solved faces, 7 movers etc) so I can somewhat vouch the fact that it's not too crazy to get those scrambles in a row

    • @tigersandcats
      @tigersandcats  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Good pyraminx scrambles are not really that rare. Getting those scrambles in an average of 5 isn't as unlikely as you might think.

    • @AlphaSkewber
      @AlphaSkewber ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you also have to take into account that Daniel Partridge probably has the best pyra turning in the world or is at least close (it’s is undeniable as there is video proof) which means that he is more likely to get very good small averages. Also in short events it’s very possible to get a group of good scrambles like this and I’ve even seen official rounds which have incredible scrambles in pyra. When someone is doing 10s of thousands of solves they’re gonna get some crazy scrambles.

    • @carterthomas342
      @carterthomas342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tigersandcats that is a fair point, but being able to produce results at his highest level for the entirety of the average seems a bit unrealistic. If I were to take a guess on how he was faking it would likely be just trying scrams again.

    • @fc3x336
      @fc3x336 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carterthomas342 only 4 solves had to be insane for him to get the average, as the 1.78 has become almost his global average nowadays, even if his competition results dont show that.

  • @KaelHitchcock
    @KaelHitchcock ปีที่แล้ว

    Me with a 5 official 2x2 average:

  • @aronstapleton7694
    @aronstapleton7694 ปีที่แล้ว

    i agree that someone with an 8 average cannot get 26 tps (also him agreeing it was fake) is fake, but if you look at my profile i have a 5.37 average in comp, that was done in october last year and i am pretty comfortably sub 3 with full cll now (also i plus twoed 3 solves in the 5 average, but asides from the point).

  • @3HFDominoBuilder
    @3HFDominoBuilder ปีที่แล้ว

    he just got a Ao5 thats .02 of the wr

  • @Pcoob
    @Pcoob ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao I know that Heych perm guy, he may or may not have a 5 second 3x3 single but I'm not sure its real

  • @Namuundoesstuff
    @Namuundoesstuff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no daniel porridge wouldnt

  • @ThriftyFrugalMom
    @ThriftyFrugalMom ปีที่แล้ว

    Plot twist: every 3x3 solve in the vid was faked 😀

  • @galaxy_speedrunning8262
    @galaxy_speedrunning8262 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also, y would you cheat in fkin pyra looool

  • @shobhnapriyadarshini1162
    @shobhnapriyadarshini1162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first

    • @nikmrn
      @nikmrn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No one cares and I would have been first, but didn't comment it because it is no achievement or something

    • @shortshorts1324
      @shortshorts1324 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah

    • @lifeisnotokay
      @lifeisnotokay ปีที่แล้ว

      don't care go cry to your dead parents

    • @randomcubestuff3426
      @randomcubestuff3426 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thank you!! i really wanted to know who was first to comment on this video