C-Class Sports Coupe, the forgotten Mercedes Fastback (Review CL203)

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  • The C-Class Sport Coupe (CL203) was a break from tradition for Mercedes-Benz - it was a shorter more sporty hatchback based on the C-Class platform, but remained rear-wheel drive with some interesting Kompressor engines available. It was competitor to the BMW 3-Series compact. How does it fare today?
    Car on review: 2002 Sports Coupe 230 Kompressor Evolution Panorama.
    Also called - SportCoupe, Sport Coupe, Sport-Coupe, SportsCoupe, Sports-Coupe
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  • @avithrap
    @avithrap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    My dad bought one of these new in 2002, and now I drive it everywhere! It’s a fun little pocket rocket, especially with the manual transmission. I didn’t get the moon roof, but I guess that saved a bit of weight. I wouldn’t trade this for anything!

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Manual, very nice. Good to keep cars in the family like that :)

    • @CanuckBacon
      @CanuckBacon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How reliable has it been? And is it worth buying a used manual one?

    • @vlakas3354
      @vlakas3354 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CanuckBacon Honestly, cause i have the same one. 110000 Km on it, simple service on time that i do by myself 0 issues. Litereally very reliable for someone that does 10000 km per year like me.

  • @DRIVECLUBistimelessPS4
    @DRIVECLUBistimelessPS4 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    3:10 this section actually blocks rear traffic headlight perfectly and i love it for that :)

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Haha, useful feature

  • @stuarthall2523
    @stuarthall2523 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another good review 👍. There’s a couple of these where I live which still look good despite being nearly 20 years old.

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Stuart. They do seem to last quite well, or maybe people look after them

  • @LuckyJay817
    @LuckyJay817 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I own a 2003 sport coupe and I love it

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice one :)

  • @Coa_Kralj_Coa_The_King
    @Coa_Kralj_Coa_The_King 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always like this model!!! I remember when I saw it first time in 2001, I use to live back then in Switzerland 😅 And you're videos are uneatable!!! I love it to watch and leeson

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! Glad to hear you enjoy the videos 😊

  • @SFH_Jenkins
    @SFH_Jenkins 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I own and drive the C180 Kompressor version, it got the M 271 engine in it with... well 1.8 Liters of displacement. It's my first car and I'm quite proud of it!
    I always liked the CL 203 but now that I have one I can call my own as a first car, it really grew on me. Sure it got a few quirks like the sunroof not working, but it's sealed so I don't care too much. With the sportier 5-spoke 17 inch rims, this car also looks pretty in my eyes.

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You have the same engine as me, in my CLK200. Great first car :)

  • @robertdavies922
    @robertdavies922 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found your channel. Love it! Merry Christmas 🎉

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Robert! Merry Christmas 🎄

  • @illusion2055
    @illusion2055 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love the videos. I have a 2002 C230 coupe as my daily driver. I’m currently driving across the US in a 2006 CLK 350. Both are awesome and so different.

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Driving across the US in a CLK, you're living the dream my friend!

  • @KitKat-wd8vq
    @KitKat-wd8vq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have owned a 2002 C230 since new,. 252K miles and still going strong though many MANY things replaced over the years. Recently had been sitting for a while in need of repairs,
    now new Supercharger (well from a junkyard), Alternator, MAF, front brakes pads and rotors, and new tires all the way around. I get 29 mpg if I go very easy on the throttle at 55 mph.
    Has a slightly larger 2.3L but more low end grunt than later models with 1.8L.
    Also has an overdrive pulley installed on crankshaft that spins up the supercharger a bit more for
    more torque and HP, though I don't drive it hard these days but still enjoy feeling it pull uphill at low rpm like a small V8 with ease. It's worth nothing I sell it, so I just keep driving it.

  • @TheJoaninhaMendes
    @TheJoaninhaMendes 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My favourite "modern" car. I remember seeing this car for the first time when it came out. I was about 18 or 19 and it was my dream car at the time.

  • @janr.fischer8364
    @janr.fischer8364 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3 ... 2 ... 1 ... got it ... C230 (CL203) mit 2,5 L/V6 ... real good car ... the sound ... the power ... modern Fastback

  • @tubularcandy812
    @tubularcandy812 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own this car, but will soon pass it on. It is such a nice car to drive.

  • @joelmoore2357
    @joelmoore2357 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Australian C180K manual transmission owner here. I bought this because there's hardly any fun, manual, rwd daily drivers under 5k here in Australia anymore. Was never a car to "awe" at and not the most manly car to own but I've come to appreciate it. Hardly any aftermarket parts to zazz the power up a bit, so it's just a buy and drive car

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah nice one, good combo with the Kompressor and manual box. Most of these do seem to be autos though. I have the same issue with my CLK 200K, nothing that can really done with the power (which isn't quite enough!)

    • @joelmoore2357
      @joelmoore2357 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JJonCars This generation mercedes have become my favourite generation from owning my C180K in hindsight. As a kid seeing the video of the CLK-GTR become airborne was pretty amazing. And now I find myself fanboy'ing over a sexy SL350, SL500 or AMG SL55 driving by haha

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joelmoore2357 Yes! Love an SL, and the CLS too

  • @JinderSongs
    @JinderSongs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review! Worth noting that the post-2008 CLC badged diesels are somewhat less economical than those from the first five years of manufacture, due to a revised EGR/DPF system that reduced emissions but also reduced mpg…not sure how they managed that!

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha wow, that's good going for Merc, normally newer diesels are much better on fuel. Ones to avoid then if it's worse MPG and potential DPF and EGR issues to content with too

    • @JinderSongs
      @JinderSongs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JJonCars I think the diesels are still a bit better than the petrols in the post ‘08 CLCs but less frugal than the previous dervs. Two friends of mine had earlier ones and chopped them in for CLCs in 2009/10 but were really disappointed in the dip in economy from the newer cars.

  • @armdrk3233
    @armdrk3233 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    they are great daily driver cars. bullet proof auto gearboxes and engines..and it has proper torque converter auto gearbox.I have a 2006 one and really like it.not expensive to maintain neither.

  • @georgem7509
    @georgem7509 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice review of the sportscoupe, are you also gonna review the sedan version?

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will definitely do the sedan/saloon as soon as I get hold of one 👍

  • @stephenchandler7486
    @stephenchandler7486 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love my one of these ❤

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great aren't they

  • @rajdattani1507
    @rajdattani1507 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I drive my sisters one of these a lot (c180 kompressor) and I love it!
    I drive brand new cars at work and I totally believe that her 2004 drives just as nice as a 2020 c class.
    It’s smooth, quiet and nippy when it needs to be.
    My dash is different to both that you showed in the video tho, it has a double din stereo and larger heater control knobs. Not sure how if they did a change in 06?

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice! You're right, they did change the interior around 2005 to a more modern, nicer dashboard.

  • @tedsmart5539
    @tedsmart5539 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Odd that only 10% in UK were 6 speed manuals. The three pedal car were at least a third of all sold here in Canada.

  • @meeshmeeshelle6326
    @meeshmeeshelle6326 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love my 2002 and can’t consider parting with it. I’ve actually taken it off road camping into National Forrests. The rear wheel drive handles sand dunes amazingly! I’ve considered lifting it a little & putting on all-terrain tires to make it a rally car. It’s my friend for life! 😊

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Brilliant :) Would be pretty cool with all terrains on it 👍

    • @meeshmeeshelle6326
      @meeshmeeshelle6326 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JJonCars PS - the seats fold completely flat to create a nice floor for a bed when car camping. ;) …I also transport an 8 & 1/2’ kayak inside mine. It truly is quite roomy.

  • @billscott9984
    @billscott9984 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have had mine for many years it's been brilliant in lot's of way's 2003 it's now starting to be troublesome but not in a hurry to park it up. 126 536 miles. Nothing really.

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice one, yeah that's still quite 'low mileage' really :)

  • @MG-ce3dx
    @MG-ce3dx ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review mate , you're very good at this 👍

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @alfredjudokus3206
    @alfredjudokus3206 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One of the last fastbacks / sportbacks, ..... forgotten ..... but not really forgotten. And now ...
    Look at these new "SUV Coupe" Style. Mercedes GLE or BMW X5 / X6 Coupe or others.
    If you make these cars lower you will see the design of the CL203 Sportcoupe from the year 2000.

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, those new cars would look a lot better if they were lower!

    • @meeshmeeshelle6326
      @meeshmeeshelle6326 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was at Monterey in 2019 and discussed this with the design team. Most of them had no idea what I was speaking if, but a couple of the guys hinted that this car was the inspiration behind their SUV model. This was where my vision of lifting mine began. Not a single one of their designers shrugged off my idea and they all smiled and suggested I submit my photos and video after I accomplish this as they’d be interested in seeing the results. :)
      As soon as I can afford to, I’m going to lift mine & put some all-terrains on it. It’s truly an awesome & undercooked car.
      PS - the seats fold completely flat to create a nice floor for a bed when car camping. ;) …I also transport an 8 & 1/2’ kayak inside mine. It truly is quite roomy.

  • @Dirkietje8
    @Dirkietje8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought a 2002 Mercedes Benz 220 CDI today with only 290.000 km on it yet. Already loving how it drives, feels like a proper highway cruiser 😊

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome. Enjoy that new-to-you car feeling :)

    • @Dirkietje8
      @Dirkietje8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JJonCars here's to hoping she says reliable

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dirkietje8 🤞🤞

    • @pipepires
      @pipepires 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i have the same from 2001 with 376K, drives as new, just keep an eye on the diesel system, the rubber seals tend to fail as the car ages, its a cheap fix, i averaged 3.8L/KM from the Netherlands to Portugal with speed average of 99KM/H ill never sell this car.

  • @liberteegalite985
    @liberteegalite985 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    سلام دوست عزیز من دیروز خریدم این ماشین رو نمیدونم چرا ماشین یعد از یک روز استارت نمیخوره روشن نمیشه لطفا به من کمک کنید چکار کنم ماشین روشن بشه ممنون مرسی

  • @fredonline
    @fredonline ปีที่แล้ว

    Whilst you were visiting the North-East, did you or have you ever visited the Middlesbrough Transporter Bridge? That's on my to-do list.

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't say I'd heard of it! But I've looked it up and it does look pretty interesting, though a shame it's not currently operational.

  • @markokaplic9328
    @markokaplic9328 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im interested in buying it as a sunday car, it just looks fun. The one i found is black and has a white interior, 170hp 2.0 engine. Its perfect for screwing around, if it breaks it breaks screw it haha

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha yep, the joy of older, cheaper cars

  • @twowheelguy4235
    @twowheelguy4235 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does this car have isofix points?

  • @jasonevans3601
    @jasonevans3601 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I drive a C180 Kompressor coupe with 5 speed auto. Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t they 7 spd auto on anything bigger than the C200?

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I suspect that if it's anything like the CLK, they put the 7-speed in later on in production lifetime, so it's maybe based on age rather than engine size. Or a bit of both.

  • @svetoslavgunchev8023
    @svetoslavgunchev8023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My wife has C 200 automatic ,I love it ,fun to drive ,but seats aren't comfortable as you mentioned ( has heated seats)it on the video, sounds good ,we have it with gas bottle LPG and is very economic, on petrol only is tursty. Overall is fun and reliable

    • @svetoslavgunchev8023
      @svetoslavgunchev8023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We use it in Bulgaria, sound system is amazing (Bose) but I like the most the sound of the kompressor engine and exhaust. Ideal city car,we have park tronic (front and rear) so easy to park it .I'm a bmw fan ,but like that one a lot,unique, especially with the glass roof in summer

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, nice to hear from an owner of one. Glad you like the car :)

    • @svetoslavgunchev8023
      @svetoslavgunchev8023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @JJ on Cars ,thanks for the nice review, too!)I did enjoy it,keep the good work going ,mate!

    • @user-ft9kt2lg8q
      @user-ft9kt2lg8q 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Здравей, предстои ми оглед на такава (c200 compressor автоматик). Може ли някой съвет?

    • @svetoslavgunchev8023
      @svetoslavgunchev8023 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-ft9kt2lg8q ,карай го на сервиз за оглед и диагностика, ние сме доволни от този автомобил,внос от Германия, но още в началото се наложи смяна на скоростна кутия ,те след 100 000км си искат нова. Мен лично ме кефи много колата ,не ни е правила сериозни проблеми, автоматичния стъклен покрив /люк се разваля лесно.

  • @MartinJones123
    @MartinJones123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review... I've always thought this car was a class smaller than the C-Class, and the styling is slightly weird, though I prefer this gen to the CLC as the design looks more cohesive... That being said, I'm really not a fan of the W203 C-Class and much prefer the successor, the W204 which IMO, is the best C-Class...

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I did too, it surprised me to find it had the same wheelbase. The CLC looked a bit more modern but like you say, not cohesive - like the grafted the front end of a 2010's Merc on to one designed in 2000. I'm inclined to agree about the W204 being better too. Though of course I have a spot for the CLK :)

    • @MartinJones123
      @MartinJones123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JJonCars Yep, the CLK is probably one of the best looking designs from that era of Mercedes...

    • @whlawson5812
      @whlawson5812 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@JJonCars if you have only have one car would you buy year 2008 C200k 1.8l supercharged or 2008 C230 V6 2.5l or 2004 CLk200 peanut eye soft top?.
      6000, 6200 and 9500 British pound respectively. Not in England though but 12 flight hours away.😂😂😂

    • @encinobalboa
      @encinobalboa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed, W203 looks awkward, something the W204 is not. This being said, W203 chassis is just as capable of handling power as the W204.

  • @javier-m75
    @javier-m75 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got in an accident in 2018 around 5am in the morning was driving my bmw 325i i was home in pain around 8am on the same day i guy i know nicknamed little jesus called me asking me if i wanted to buy a car for $1,100 i said i was in pain because i was just in an accident. he sent me a couple of pictures it was a 2003 mercedes benz c320 me broke i said i had no money asked someone to lent me the money by the evening i now had a 2003 c320 mercedes the best deal i have found. i mean that found me. now 2024 i still have it i wish i could take care of it the way it deserves it but 200k miles on it already. best investment i have ever made. cool car drives smooth and has lots of power.

  • @pauljames9393
    @pauljames9393 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive got the C180 Kompressor 2006 ! Cheap to run on petrol under 3000 rpm/ 90mph. I often drive 5hrs on 70% of petrol with comfort. Although its 150HP, Im happy ! ................

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sweet, glad you like it!

    • @zukied4817
      @zukied4817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Should I buy this car, I'm planning to.

    • @pauljames9393
      @pauljames9393 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like Ive said, its no problem with me. Remember there is a C200 & c220 too, but the C180 is more economical. @@zukied4817

  • @coraller
    @coraller 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i got a c200k... its got the M271 engine and if you got one of these.... its a timebomb. Mine's broken currently due to timing chain issues, under 150k kilometers.

  • @unknown-nw5qr
    @unknown-nw5qr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i got a clc 180 auto with a stage 2 remap yet to test how fast it is

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh nice. I am curious about that with my own car, I have the same engine as you in the CLK 200. Let me know how much difference there is!

  • @TorstenBecker
    @TorstenBecker หลายเดือนก่อน

    mine was built in 2004. Purchased in 2019 and now with 100,000 km there have been no significant repairs or expenses.

  • @DanielStillie28
    @DanielStillie28 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mate i need your opinion should i buy the c180 or the c230 version?

    • @zukied4817
      @zukied4817 หลายเดือนก่อน

      230 is the best engine of Mercedes factory..outside of AMG

  • @flightimmersion
    @flightimmersion 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These were Mercedes' competition for the BMW 3 series compact

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that's true 👍

  • @nickzourb190
    @nickzourb190 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would never trade my C209 CLK200 over this!

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha, same :P

    • @nickzourb190
      @nickzourb190 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JJonCars Keep up the good work with yours. Cheers!

  • @scampaboy
    @scampaboy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ha ha I’m looking at one of these tomorrow and I’m from Liverton mines I recognised the roads straight away 😂😂😂😂

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah nice, yeah I enjoyed driving around your area, nice scenery and the weather was fantastic :)

    • @scampaboy
      @scampaboy หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JJonCars please tell me you went over Blakey? I commute on that road

    • @scampaboy
      @scampaboy หลายเดือนก่อน

      Didn’t buy it 😂😂😂 problem with the front end obviously an unrecorded not worth the £700 he wanted

  • @liamm-c1287
    @liamm-c1287 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This with an om606 would rock

  • @edd2184
    @edd2184 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Personally I've been looking for the facelift c320 model they only came out for 1-year stateside.

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good luck in your search

    • @maliekmills457
      @maliekmills457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have one - took ages to get a decent one as they don’t come up for sale often. Lovely car though and was lucky enough to get speced out with full electric seats xenon’s parking sensors etc. really makes the car feel modern and not like it’s nearly 20 years old!

    • @edd2184
      @edd2184 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maliekmills457 it's one of those cars that don't make much sense on paper even though you can't have fun with a 2.3 supercharged with pulleys (later 1.8 version wasn't that easy to modify) or the 3.2 l V6.
      I satisfied my itch because I couldn't find one with a CLK320. But still if given the choice if you gave me a facelifted c320 especially the CLC version. I wouldn't even hesitate.

    • @maliekmills457
      @maliekmills457 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@edd2184 clk320 is nice though I did consider those too but the coupes are just so unloved, underrated and therefore much cheaper so I went with the cl203! I wanted a c350 but wasn’t sure about the longevity of the balance shaft so that scared me out of buying one of those.
      Definitely a car on paper that doesn’t make much sense at all or even in real world 😂 though it makes for a very capable, fast little run about that is often underestimated by your typical boy racer who thinks it’s a c180 or c220cdi 🤣. It’s amazing on the motorway too and when you plant the foot down it easily keeps up with or outpaces most modern cars. My only gripe is the fact it has no grip off the mark especially in wet… I think it’s because it’s a big engine, almost disproportionately sized for such a small coupe and also RWD so it just blabbers about and can’t get going when trying to pull off quickly. I also have a mk4 golf v6 4 motion and you can peg that off the line even in wet and it doesn’t skid so it seems better to have 4x4 with the bigger engined cars.

    • @edd2184
      @edd2184 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maliekmills457 the clk320/550 is pretty good it's really pretty bulletproof the only thing that may go wrong is the transmission conductor plate but you can fix it easier by being preventative.
      If the transmission starts to skip more than likely it's the 13 pin connector clean it with some electrical conductor, and using a hand tool not a drill (you will strip the bolt). Remove the 13 pin connector adapter, it should have two o-rings. A lot of time. Goes Go Bad so it starts to leak through, some transmission fluid. Which affects the connector.
      Now if you don't do this and the transmission goes all the way South. All you will have to do is replace the conductor plate. If that doesn't work after the new conductor plate is installed, you need to get a transmission software reset that can only be done through star diagnostics or snap-on tools.
      That being said the CLK350 has the 7 speed transmission and that's a whole nother animal those conductor plates vin coded.
      However if you want to take the risk I highly recommend the CLK55 or the CLK550

  • @Dave-mm5ge
    @Dave-mm5ge 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a giant, my head would be sticking through the roof in the back seat. my whole family are giants. I guess I'll pass on getting one of these. thanks for the review

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, probably not the car for you haha

  • @ige740
    @ige740 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is my current car!
    Having issue going in 60 now
    Can’t tell if it’s fuel injection, or the throttle body
    Doesn’t seem like the transmission

    • @georgeb5262
      @georgeb5262 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you have troubles accelerating?

    • @ige740
      @ige740 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@georgeb5262 yes i do.
      It takes long to pick up and even when it does, it doesn’t go as high as 60km/h

    • @georgeb5262
      @georgeb5262 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ige740 It can also can be something like the brake or acceleration potentiometer. My mum had similar problem in her Nissan Micra k12. The car read that the brake was always applied, even if it wasn't and there was no squealing. So the board computer automatically lowered the engine's RPMs, thinking she is constantly braking. And she had similar stuck around that speed. It may or may not be the case. I have neither ever owned this car, neither am I a mechanic. So you probably should read or ask in some forums for this car or talk to a qualified mechanic. But it is some likely something in the electronic.

    • @ige740
      @ige740 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@georgeb5262 oh do you think I can detect this with a diagnostic tool?

    • @georgeb5262
      @georgeb5262 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ige740 Idk. I am not a mechanic. I think the person, who fixed my mum's car saw that there was some short circuit or something like that, but I suppose that a diagnostic test will be helpful regardless. And you can usually go to some third-parties for this (aka independent services).

  • @Nick-jf5vh
    @Nick-jf5vh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m about to get my first car here in Greece and my father found me this car! But I’m little scare to buy it, it’s actually a good car? He’s got 155.000km and it looks nice. What should i look out for before i buy it and after i buy it?
    Thanks

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well, yeah they can be good reliable cars! If it has been looked after by its owner and maintained properly then it should be ok. But of course they are old cars now and if it hasn't been cared for it could be a money pit. You have to go by how you feel about the car, if its in nice condition and there is service history etc, then it should be ok!

  • @CarAddictGarageNE
    @CarAddictGarageNE ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ah that’s my old car, was so pleased to save this one, the real hidden secret with this Mercedes is its completely rust free, due to been in Spain for 16 years, it’s like new underneath never seen one like it.
    It’s called the Evolution spec with the full panoramic roof.
    C230 Kompressor is the one to have 200bhp, bar the 3.7 V6 C350 …. But they are super thirsty and complex.
    Sure I have some recordings of the underbody when i was prepping it for winter storage
    youtube.com/@CarAddictGarageNE

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice one Dan, it's definitely a minter underneath!

    • @CarAddictGarageNE
      @CarAddictGarageNE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JJonCars car I wish I hadn’t of sold that one.
      Hopefully see you at a show when i have the ZX little minter that is.
      I had an immaculate facelift 2005 C220 CDI evolution identical to this garaged from new, and I didn’t think much of the interior quality at all, only thing that had let the interior down on this example is been hammered by the Spanish sun for 16 years, otherwise I think the pre facelift interior is far more robust, I did notice when I got the car someone had fitted aftermarket climate control knobs that were really cheap feeling, that was on my list of things to do….. but hey I would sooner take the hit on some interior flaws over been rusted to hell like Uk Mercedes are lol

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CarAddictGarageNE I noticed there were some control knobs rattling around in the centre console so maybe they'd already been swapped back - the one on the car did come off in my hand lol. The facelift interior looks very similar to my CLK which is decent quality in my car but maybe it's not as good in this C Class.
      Yeah lol, they have robust engines if looked after so worth keeping a rust free one - which I think Chris plans to do so you might not get it back, though then again he swaps his cars around constantly :D
      Hopefully see you at one - I'll definitely try and get back to FOTU as that was a superb show

    • @CarAddictGarageNE
      @CarAddictGarageNE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JJonCars yes they were the originals in the contest console, not actually sure what was wrong with them. Yes I had a 2003 facelift CLK 270CDI and that had far better quality interior.
      Yeah I know have first chance of it back, only reason I sold was i struggle with 2 door cars with having x2 kids and x2 dogs lol.
      Yes will definitely be at FOTU just not sure if I will shut travel with Chris or take the ZX, long old slog in a 1.4 ZX happy at 60 not 70 so I would be left behind lol.
      Be good to see you there mate keep up the good work

  • @DimlyAwareHUmAn
    @DimlyAwareHUmAn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The car media at the time hated THIS car but loved the sedan. Go figure! They complained that the climate controls were difficult to interpret and use. Huh? They are exceedingly simple. Well to a point. It pays to read the manual. There are lots of hidden features in all Mercedes. For instance the AC is on ALL THE TIME and pushing a button that says EC/REST turns it off. EC for economy. Pushing this button when the car is off recirculates the coolant in the heating core
    and runs the fan at a very low speed to provide heat for a short time up to a 1/2 hour till the coolant cools.
    The "evolution" moniker was not used in the US. It refers to what they called the Sport Package.
    Which includes a leather steering wheel with nubs on it and matching shift knob. Also the door skirts, painted door handles, resonator delete, the 17" wheels and Michelin Pilot Sport tires. A great deal at ~ $700.
    In 2003 the the 17" wheels became stock and they went to the 1.8L engine which is much less reliable than the earlier 2.3L only offered in 2002 in the USA. Evolution also refers to the engine, one of the last incarnations of the venerable M111 engine used by Mercedes for more than 20 years. It went on to power the SLK until 2004. It is much torquier and HP is easily added with the addition of a supercharger pulley. I am the original owner of a 2002 C230 Jasper Blue with the "Evolution Package" and panoramic sunroof. 251K MILES not Km and counting. I still drive if often.
    Really the 2002 2.3L M111 or the 03-05 C320 6cyl M112 coupe are the only ones to own. The M271 1.8L 4 banger is garbage as is the early M272 6 cylinders. Just google balance shaft and M272. A freakin' maint. nightmare both of them. M271 has single row chain which stretches and then eats the cam gears and valves. 2005 is the best for styling with updated tail lights, turn signals, clear headlights vs frosted, clear fog lamps and a "cheese grater" grill. I have put all those items on my 2002 to update it except I added factory Bixenons which requires an ECU change. I got mine with manual seats but if I had electric it would be easy to swap to CLK seats. Yes they are hard as rocks! Mercedes do not like to be out in the rain! Water seems to get in and fowl up the electronics playing all kinds of havoc. I'm told it's a good idea to replace the tail light seals, but they are no longer available. One of these days I'll use some clear silicone on them. Luckily once dried out everything went back to normal. The list of wierdnesses is long including not running, the dash being blank, the fan running continuously and much more. Sunrooofs give out after a while, and repairs are very expensive OR DIY very time consuming. So mine is disconnected. Still have the sunshade though. I recently did the front brakes and rotors (C32 Brembo's which bolt right on) repacked the wheel bearings, new tires,
    new alternator and replacement supercharger. M111 is prone to head gasket leak on cylinder 4 which also is expensive, but most of the water goes outside the engine not in, so just topping it generally works to a point. Mine is so bad now I can't turn on the AC or heat, as it sucks coolant vapors into the cab. Soon I'll be DIY'ing the head gasket since there is no one qualified where I live. Hard to want to tear into something that's running perfectly fine except for this one major problem. So many things to go wrong. I've done 2 other heard gaskets in my life but not on DOHC and not Mercedes. Wish me luck!

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brilliant Info, thanks! When I was researching the C230, I did get pretty confused with the available engines - it seemed to have gone from the 2.3 to the 1.8 and then finally to a 2.5? (V6?) all under that same badge.
      I have the M271 in my CLK, though it's only done 35k miles with great service history so I should hopefully be a way from any timing chain issues... 🤞🤞🤞
      And good luck with your head gasket change!

    • @Dirkietje8
      @Dirkietje8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You sure seem to know a lot about these cars. What can you tell me about the OM611 2,1 litre diesel engine? Thats the one my 2002 220 CDI has.

    • @tedsmart5539
      @tedsmart5539 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you forgot the pano-roof mechanism is garbage...

    • @DimlyAwareHUmAn
      @DimlyAwareHUmAn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tedsmart5539 well mine lasted until just a a couple years ago.
      They're actually made by a company called Wabasto who make sunroofs for many cars. Most of the stuff in a Mercedes these days isn't made by Mercedes. Everything is outsourced.

    • @DimlyAwareHUmAn
      @DimlyAwareHUmAn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dirkietje8 I haven't heard anything bad about them and with fuel prices what they are I'd love to have one but never offered in the US. Was looking at a low mileage W211 04 E320 CDI recently, it sold for $25k! 35 mpg all day long.

  • @jaakko200987654321
    @jaakko200987654321 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    awesome car. mine is diesel manual, really fun to drive

    • @jaakko200987654321
      @jaakko200987654321 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the diesel manual gets insane mpg. best i got was 3.6l/100km on a 200km trip driving around 80kmh, +20-25c temp

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's great MPG!

  • @ArcanumMortis98
    @ArcanumMortis98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I owned a 2003 C180 K manual as my first car. I wasnt a fan of those coupés but my father was and bought it for me. I fell kind of in love, even though its the most "special" looking Mercedes 😂
    A year later I bought myself a Jaspisblau Metallic C350 as a manual built in 2006. Even got the ultra rare Evolution AMG sportpackage, AMG rims in 18" instead of 17" (which was an extra 700€ as the car was configured), Thermotronic, Comand APS and many more options.
    New, the C350 had cost ~34,500€ but mine was 50k€ with options. Got it for 5k as noone wants to buy those coupés :(

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hahaha 'special' looking :)
      That's awesome man, we all have a soft spot for our first cars. And yours is a great one. The 350 is rare, and I love that dark blue colour. Honestly you've got a lovely car there, try and keep it as long as you can :)

    • @ArcanumMortis98
      @ArcanumMortis98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JJonCars Definetly! Thanks mate! Just had done nearly the whole suspension parts, apart from the KW V2 every part is original Mercedes. Had looked for rust on the bottom and tried to get rid of as much as I could without using heavy tools. Next step is an engine rebuild and after that gearbox and diff. Looking forward to buy better cams and an mechanical quaife diff. But never ever going to sell it 😄

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ArcanumMortis98 Fantastic, sounds like you'll have one of the best ones around when you're finished.

    • @ArcanumMortis98
      @ArcanumMortis98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JJonCars Unfortunatly not ":D Im a student again after finishing my apprenticeship at Mercedes and I only have a small budget.. I bought the Mercedes 4 years ago and drove it like 8.000km. The rest of the time it sits in the garage to save money. It wont be a "good as new" car for a long time, until I take over my fathers business and then be able to get the car to this state of perfection.

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ArcanumMortis98 you'll get there eventually 😄

  • @BrysonGeorge
    @BrysonGeorge หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this car still worth driving and it’s performance in 2024 for a first start car ?

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would say so! Great first car if you can afford the insurance

  • @Dave_dave69
    @Dave_dave69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is all that white stuff normal from a cold car? I’m considering buying one pls help lol

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In winter from a cold start it can be normal, but should go away when the engine warms up.

    • @Dave_dave69
      @Dave_dave69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou :)

  • @MrSunnyBhoy
    @MrSunnyBhoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey JJ, these are obviously good cars but my prob is the back end styling. It's too soft and crap looking for me. It ruins it and for that reason I wouldn't get one. Only the Easter version is one of buy, those look great.

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, they are a bit odd looking for sure. Easter version?

    • @MrSunnyBhoy
      @MrSunnyBhoy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JJonCars haha I meant estate :)

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrSunnyBhoy haha yeah they're quite nice. Saloon is OK but I much prefer the E class!

  • @atoningunifex6067
    @atoningunifex6067 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Think i'll stick with my CLK V8

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha yeah, fair one, I would too

  • @danthebat666
    @danthebat666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:07 The illusion is broken. :(

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว

      😬
      Have another look... it's improved slightly 😅

  • @motnik
    @motnik 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your headrest is too low, which is making me nervous. On a crash you are risking serious whiplash. The top of the headrest should line up with the top of your head

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah you're right. Just forget to adjust it in every car I drive.
      Something I've noticed with the seats in my CLK, and perhaps it's the same in this C Coupe is that the headrest drops down when you pull the seat forward for access to the rear. So I'm constantly having to remember to pull the headrest back up

  • @andabossftw
    @andabossftw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was it even possible to get a C203 with elegance spec? Every one I've seen seems to have the metal with black cloth or leather (sometimes black and white) and nothing else. Also this car is still bigger than the A class of the era.

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think so, lol. But I guess quite rare, with it being aimed at a younger buyer than the bigger cars

  • @GetToDaChopa
    @GetToDaChopa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this car always looked weird to me. on one side i like the coupe look on the other the back is too high and looks like they cut the rear off

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, it is weird looking, and in a way they kinda did chop the back off of a C-Class haha. I can't quite figure out if I like the looks of it either, it's better from some angles than others

    • @MartinJones123
      @MartinJones123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It kind of reminds me of the old 3 Series Compact with its weird cutoff rear end

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MartinJones123 to be honest, until I did this video, I've been calling it the C class compact as I didn't know what it's official name is. Sport Coupe is not a great name I don't think

    • @MartinJones123
      @MartinJones123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JJonCars 😂 Though you do raise a point, it's not a good name for this car... I've been doing something similar and calling it a C-Class hatchback thingy 😂

    • @DimlyAwareHUmAn
      @DimlyAwareHUmAn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JJonCars In USA hatchback was a bad word for some reason. For me, I liked the dual rear window reminiscent of the early Honda CRX which was actually something tossed into the mix by Bertone design. Sadly a couple years later Toyota used it on the Prius. YUK! Yes, the butt is ugly. A nice face with an ugly butt. BUTT fold down the seats and have 40 cu ft of storage. Amazing what I've transported over the years. I actually had to replace the entire hatch due to body damage. If a CLC hatch had been available in the USA, I might have used it. C Coupe front with CLC rear. Hmmmm?

  • @zdravkomamic8505
    @zdravkomamic8505 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    CLK is more beautiful, this one is unusual

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, agreed 👍

    • @dr.drex0854
      @dr.drex0854 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JJonCars bro in this models 1.8 and 2.0 has difference? In speed and etc?

    • @anakinskywalkerclc
      @anakinskywalkerclc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@dr.drex0854 Depends. If it's used, there are many factors that could affect the performance. But generally, the 2.0 has a slightly more abrupt acceleration. And it feels more powerful when speeding

    • @JinderSongs
      @JinderSongs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d agree with that. I’ve always loved the CLK (and am glad to own one now that the used prices are within reach of a humble working musician such as I) and was never keen on the C-Class Coupe. Having said that, whilst I wouldn’t choose one over the styling of the CLK, I’d totally drive one now.

    • @togzinnhla6747
      @togzinnhla6747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rare model

  • @superlamoontnetwork2032
    @superlamoontnetwork2032 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NZZ-998

  • @hugospectrum4v
    @hugospectrum4v 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the car with the worst wind noise i ever own

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not something I noticed with it particularly! Perhaps you've had some very luxurious cars in the past? 😄

  • @stonecold9132
    @stonecold9132 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This had a lot of electrical problems

  • @cristobaluribe
    @cristobaluribe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is an ugly version of the CLK

    • @JJonCars
      @JJonCars  ปีที่แล้ว

      kinda yeah 😄

    • @DimlyAwareHUmAn
      @DimlyAwareHUmAn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll agree with that as far as the ass end is concerned. But try fitting 40 cu ft of cargo in a CLK. Without seeing the back end It looks like a CLK from the front. Also no pano for CLK 209 and back seat only good if you're under 5 feet tall.. C Coupe Pano was the 1st for Mercedes. Only other car on the market at the time I'm aware of was Porsche. I remember the 2 big ah ha! moments at the dealership for me, were when the salesman folded down the rear seats (I'm a musician needed to haul equipment) and when he opened the sun shade exposing the huge panes of glass. That was it for me. That and a supercharged engine, tiptronic 5 speed, done deal.

    • @cristobaluribe
      @cristobaluribe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DimlyAwareHUmAn I have fitted a 10 Ton hydraulic press in the back of a CLK, and have used it to move massive pieces of furniture that would never fit in traditional cars, thanks to the missing B pillar. The CLK boot is huge and with seats folded down will fit more than the C-class. The CLK is elegant and it's interiors are magnificent. The C-class is probably the ugliest thing Mercedes ever made, and maybe yes that Pano roof is the only thing if you even consider that a feature, I don't really as your not looking up when you drive only forward.

    • @demiriscarrington4214
      @demiriscarrington4214 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love the back end, that is the highlight of the car to me, I own a 2004 C 230

    • @JinderSongs
      @JinderSongs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DimlyAwareHUmAnfellow musician here…I drive a CLK! I was told that with the seats down the CLK has the same load space as a Volvo V70 estate, which may be true in terms of floor space but certainly not in terms of headroom 🤣 I love my CLK though. I could sit and look at it all day! Me and two support acts touring Scotland together in it earlier in the year was a bit of a push space wise though, especially the 8hr drive up from Dorset 😳 I’m envious of the pano roof of the sports coupe, that would have been a lovely addition to the CLK. I’m not sure if the crash structure with the pillarless roof would allow a pano roof though.