Well... almost every single one... This video is meant to show off the comparisons people make between the two games. I love both games, please be gentle. Song: Air - Johann Sebastian Bach
100,000 Views... Thanks guys. Let me explain my opinion on this whole "Overwatch to Paladins" comparison nonsense... I've played both Overwatch and Paladins; I have about 100 hours in Paladins, a little more in Overwatch; truth to be told is that they are two different games... two different flavors. I wouldn't say that one copied ideas from the other, nor that they "copy" any other video games that came before them. It's very easy to think of a game concept, then to point out similarities to it in other games. Over the past decades game development has been speeding up faster than before, and with development of new games comes overlapping ideas and concepts. You can go ahead and prove to others that Global Agenda was the inspiration for Paladins abilities, or use Blizzard's previous idea of "Titan" to prove or disprove its authenticity. What it boils down to is that you should play what you enjoy, and be happy doing so. Spreading hate towards fan groups that you don't exactly agree with is no way to live. The point of this video was to give visual aid to people who have compared certain abilities between the two games in the past. I certainly don't see the relation between some of these comparisons, but that wasn't the point. Some people are visual learners, and this was made to assist those people. I do not intend to spread hate or judgement to either one of these groups of avid video gamer players. I sincerely apologize if I did. I hope this clears things up, thank you so much for your time! *_PS:_*_ That broken English comment was pinned because it was funny as hell_
Fract No offence but you seem to have gone through a great amount of effort to make some of these moves appear more similar than they actually are. Androxus can dash in 360 degrees yet you compared it to Tracers blink in one direction. You also made Reinhardt charge into a wall to shorten the length so it appears closer in distance to Fernandos dash. Reinhardt shield can rotate completely around him while Nandos a shield is locked to where he's facing. I'm sorry but I don't believe you when you say this video wasn't meant to spread hate.
theomegarose, I see why you say that, and honestly it's my fault because I am a lazy editor. To explain: Take the Fernando/Reinhardt shield comparison. I recorded Paladins footage first, then tried my best to match the length of the file when recording Overwatch. I shortened the length of Reinhardt's charge not to make the abilities appear more similar than they are, but so that I wouldn't have to do any extra cuts or editing work on the footage. You can use this when comparing any other abilities as well. I just tried to match the lengths of each piece of footage. I'm sorry if this came across as me trying to deceive you, or anyone else.
it's funny that people compare sombra and skye when skye came out first. also happens with barik when barik was shown off in the alpha before torb was ever shown
@@godlyvex5543 barik is not even designed the same as torbjörn lol. It only looks similar on a surface level with the turret but the kit is completely different and nothing is the same. Torbjörn is a damage dealer and barik is a tank end of story. But nope, barik can place a turret and his weapon is totally the”same weapon as torbjörn that is totally a projectile weapon and not a hitscan”, therefor barik copied torbjörn no questions asked…
@Bruno Acosta here we see a toxic 12 year old in its natural habitat, do be careful because they do bite, fun fact: 99.99 percent of the males of this species are most likely to remain virgins until they reach the age of 90.
Da xua Fangays? Wow what a roast. Overwatch is a high quality fps that is great. Paladins is an alright game but a complete rip off. Hi Rez needs to stick to smite which is an amazing game.
Paladins a complete rip off?But Paladins has a card system and some of the characters came before some of the characters of Overwatch(Evie,Skye and etc).Also it has many different abilities like changing people into chickens,if u hold space u can glide,a ability that makes the enemy not able to shoot 9r use abilities and etc.So it's still a *complete* rip off because it's a fps with abilities that came from different games(Dota,Tf2,Global agenda and etc).
we all are..but somethings die faster than others. you can consider OW is dying but be here for 20 yrs..while paladins is dying like immediately...its like it was made with cancer.
Paladins has a "WoW" style (magic, wizards, spells, old places, etc) And Overwatch has that "Portal" feeling and style (technology, futuristic environments, advanced weapons, etc) I say this because no matter how the characters and their habilities are nearly the same, the most important thing is that Paladins has his own style and artwork, Overwatch too, so both games are awesome. Thats my oppinion.
@@fjayazx8155 And some of the champs in paladins were released earlier than some of those in overwatch, do they have spies working at eachothers companies? who cares! let's just enjoy the games we love :)
Besides the graphics and all, the major thing is that basically nobody talks in voicechat on paladins compared to overwatched, even on ranked/competitive
Sure paladins probably was, but before both of them ( i think?) blizzard was developing Titan (somewhere in 2013 or something? idk) , but they scrapped it and turned it into overwatch. the develpment of OW started in 2014, dont know about paladins. im not exatly sure about this, but my point is, Titan came way before paladins. Perhaps.
Having finally bought overwatch this recent anniversary... i kinda like paladins moba system of keeping the abilitie bound to the same set of keys alot more. And the card system (minus the cards unbound shit) is a great way to augment the game vs the same champs with the same counters and team comps that can't be altered or counter built...
@@buttertastegood9525 it’s more creative. They both took what team fortress 2 did but only one made innovating changes to it 🤷🏽♂️the ability to make changes to how the characters base kits work is what will forever put paladins above OW. Better graphics don’t mean shit when 85% of the community is suffering while on the game 😭
lmao let's be honest, if overwatch was free, paladins would get only 30% of the players they have now. Edit: I cant stop laughing over the butthurt replies
JessieYT Deal with the community huh? tbh The community isn't as bad as people say, I barely run into toxic people but you find those in every game so what's the difference. Why can't you just sit and play the game. You don't have to go on forums or talk in chat. Boom problem solved.
Biskuttey nope. Play styles are different not everyone cares for the free of it. Someone wants to be custom to their character and have a more strategy way of gaming. Then paladins. How so? First of all, No changing your character during combat which idk why thats a thing. Ranked ban system so it keeps ranked fresh with no clones. So honestly not really. It'd be the same. Even overwatch players are leaving
I never played overwatch, and i play paladins all time, and i can tell you paladins has a lot of trollers and boosted on ranked, and ranked is toxic, but then the other modes are good and chill, without problems.
You know didn't think I needed to say this but... This war between OW and Paladins is just infuriating, like can two games just co-exist? I personally like both games and enjoyed both of them, but the fact that the fans keep comparing these game to the other can really get you down... If we apply the same logic to other games then that would mean COD is a copy of Battlefield or vice versa... We have been living in a day of age where we have the power to bring people together by just pressing buttons, and it could've been great (or atleast better than the past) if it weren't for toxic communities.. We humans have co-existed with each other before but why break down now when we're so close to a new era of change... People need to stop thinking that everything is a competition, if you like the product then like it and leave, don't try to force your opinions on other people because that would cause more problems than just comparing... Both of these fandoms started an argument based on their opinions, and no one will win because they're throwing opinions/hypotheticals rather than facts... But even so can we just drop this whole mess?? It's not helping anyone Sorry for long comment here is a ♡
You know, it’s for good reason... because these games aren’t just of the same genre. (Like Overwatch and TF2) The war is in the fact that Paladins straight up rips off quite a few aspects of overwatch. (Victor is 76, Fernando is Rein, etc.)
Overwatch has way better graphics, polish, lighting etc. while paladins has the ability for champions to be diverse. How I play Talus or Ying is very different to how the next player does. This is due to loudout cards, items and abilities. Personally, the beautiful look on overwatch isn’t enough to keep me on it, polish and lighting can only go so far.
I find paladins to unbalanced, I know that's hypocritical given overwatches history with goats n stuff but I feel like paladins doesn't try to be balanced or fair, it's alot of chaos, it seems like a less serious, less strategic and less polished, it's definitely a fun game but it's difficult to enjoy when I can just play Overwatch, also I do love how many characters you can play in Paladins just sucks that so many of the characters are copy and paste from other games
@@mintii... lmao both games have a lot of mechanics from other games especially the og TF2 so they both copy but yeah I like both games and even though they might seem similar they are very different
The funny part is , in 2017 , People still excuse Ow or Paladins for stealing their personality , it doesn't matter at all actually , both games are good , and it's nice they made it this far.
xX Magical Vibes Xx you're right at the point thats may a copy but Lets not forgot that these games , are still populair today , people enjoy what they play , let Them be ,as i say *become who you are* im Happy that there arent bad on comments My tweet lol
i would say its kinda the opposite, overwatch was marketed first, had better advertisement and more money behind, that makes people think it is paladins that copied when it was overwatch www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/53qusf/a_brief_history_of_paladins_as_response_to/ this sheds a little light on how people keep being misinformed, it all comes down to marketing in the end overwatch looks better, gameplay is tigher, and has a nicely crafted universe paladins is more tactical, has more diverse gameplay and overall even though it doesnt look as good, it offers more in terms of technicality
I see a TF2 fan here.Well he’s not papa anymore.He’s ded. Well Overwatch is the talented and original son,and Paladins is the disabled homeless one. P.S.I have like 100+hrs in all the games and I think,that TF2 is nice but dead;Paladins are crap(And the community is so toxic,and dumb(Hi-Rez talks about Global Agenda as their own project,tho u have character creation cos it’s an mmo as eso));And overwatch has good gameplay and balance+not that much toxic idiots.
@@dx_5222 kinda weird since nobody really talks in paladins. Also,"overwatch has less toxic idiots" I think that comment speaks for itself. I see you being VERY biased to overwatch.
You could end the war with that sentence, people don't realize that games are always gonna be a "ripoff" of each other cause they are in the same genre. Tf2, paladins and overwatch are the same genre, thats why they are so similar, even in characters, cause some abilities are just necessary for that genre. Just how it works. Paladins is the way to go for me, overwatch was good, they made it worse imo
@@beckettFPS not really with how they are presented tf2 was the genre pioneer whereas paladins is a paraphrased version of overwatch with almost exact presentation, you seriously can't look at the shield and hook mechanics without at least thinking that one ripped off the other
Exactly. Imagine thinking Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter are the same game because there's a guy that throws fireballs and a big wrestler guy in both
*The History of Paladins:* Global Agenda, a class based Shooter/MMO game, was started in 2005 as the studio’s first project. The Global Agenda design was inspired by Tribes (Jetpacks, Weapons), City of Heroes (cool Abilities, instanced PvE missions), and TF2 (Classes, Instanced PvP, weapon types). The initial idea was how to make a City of Heroes type mmo/game with real shooting. Global Agenda was released in 2010 and we learned many lessons from it. It had too many features and game modes for us to be able to maintain enough depth into each one (5 different PvP modes, AvA, Solo/Co-Op PvE, Raids, Double agent, open world missions as well as complex MMO features like crafting, auction system, AVA world map, and much more) Global Agenda was no longer generating much revenue even after some later expansions were released (like Sandstorm) and we started looking at alternative games we could create One group began working on a new Tribes game (which became Tribes: Ascend) while another group started working on a third-person moba game (which became Smite). In 2012 we started another project named Aurum (AU), it was a Fantasy based Global Agenda PvP like game and the first inspiration for Paladins. You can see from the video link below how the style is cartoony fantasy. In Paladins (code name Chaos) pre-production, we experimented with both the Global Agenda Sci-Fi theme and the Aurum Fantasy theme. After a lot of testing the project team decided to go with the Fantasy theme. Overwatch was announced. We were shocked and not sure what direction to take. We were already so far along with Paladins, but we didn't want to compete directly against Blizzard. We initially tried to find different ways to differentiate on game-play (different TTK, different style maps and game modes, different theme, etc), but the feedback from our tests, stats, and surveys showed that only a small part of our population was enjoying that style of game. In the end we said screw it and just made what we thought best, and closest to our original vision, even if people would think it's too close to Overwatch. We created almost all the Paladins classes and abilities using Global Agenda and Smite as our template. We used our Aurum fantasy theme from 2012 and Smite characters as placeholders (although some like Grover the tree just stayed). As a last point, it would be almost impossible for a studio of our size to 'clone' Overwatch in a year, but Overwatch did have some nice features that we decided to incorporate into Paladins (Kill Cam, Improved Lag comp, some verbiage like 'eliminations')
@@vintejj Oh hello there. You're the type of person that thinks most games and cartoons are for kids. You're wrong and I don't even really need to explain why because it should be obvious. Carry on.
̇ ͜ʟ ̇ nope, not at all, it is very common for a popular uprising game to have a sudden grow of fanbase aged very young. cartoons dont mean anything, we both know these 2 games have plenty of kids in their fanbase, and they do not understand what an opinion is, scroll down this comment section and see. if this game was full of adults, no one would care about this paladins vs ow bullshit, because they are mature and understand, they're just games, don't care at all, doesn't affect adults,
hmmmmmm lemme think Payload Shooter game Classes Sniper that charges shots Healing beam Both had really good animated shorts Invisibility A turret A rocket launcher Though none of these really work exactly the same except the payload :/
After looking through the comments a bit, I have this to say. In terms of characters, both games were made and released at roughly the same time, so most of the characters that happen to act similarly is either a coincidence or they both borrow from the same thing. A lot of it can be contributed to popular MOBAs, such as... (Makoa and Roadhog) The act of using a hook or anchor to pull someone towards you. (Tracer, Androxus, Meave, and Genji) The act of dashing quickly, either toward an enemy as a means of attack, or away as a means of escape. (Inara and Mei) Summoning a wall or other object to block an enemy path. (Reaper, Grohk, Seris, and Mal Damba (to an extent)) Temporarily becoming intangible as a form of escape. (Evie and Mei) Using their element to surround and protect themselves. (Doomfist and Drogoz) Punching things with your fist. Sometimes, they're taken from another game, like Team Fortress 2. (Barik and Torbjorn) Both are like The Engineer where they spawn turrets in order to do the bulk of their damage. With Barik focusing a low build time but low damage (like Engineer's mini turret), and Torbjorn focusing on High build time but high damage (like Engie's default Level 3, they even both use rockets). (Skye and Sombra) Both are like The Spy in which they sneak around while invisible. Sombra focuses more so on sabotaging that enemy team with her hacking like Spy with his sapper, and Skye focuses more on weakening the enemy team by killing key team mates like snipers and Supports like the Spy does with his cloak and back stab. I could keep going, but I doubt most have read this far. Overall, drawing inspiration from another company or rival company isn't a bad thing. Neither Paladins or Overwatch borrow so much from one another or other games that they should be considered rip offs. Sonic isn't considered a rip off of Mario because they're are both 2D platformers. Mortal Kombat isn't considered a rip off of Street Fighter because they are both 2D Fighting games. Halo isn't a rip off of Call of Duty because they're both First Person Shooters. Paladins shouldn't be considered a rip off of Overwatch... Overwatch shouldn't be considered a rip off of Paladins... ...because they're both Team Based Shooters.
do not take me wrong but, one is a mobile bomb and the other, you're the same bomb, it's like you shoot fire and another, you're the same fire they may look the same, but they are different It looks like water, but it's alcohol and the other is just water. both are transparent, both are fruidos, but in themselves they are different
I'm someone who tried both games at the same time last year having never seen gameplay before. Overwatch easily got me hooked over paladins. Paladins is an ok game but overwatch has some kind of charm with it as well as being a polished game
beatboxbrain I think Shane is saying that it’s not copying overwatch because revolvers are real guns. Which I mean is a valid argument, but still with all the other stuff that’s been copy pasted it’s safe to say that they added the revolver dude (forgot his name) as a mix between reaper and mccree
Not really,i found a lot of bug (usually visual one) but some bug are not removed cause its need skill to use and not a game breaking one (popular example:rocket jump)
Yeah Torvald's beam now nullifies champion abilities making it more akin to sombra's hack than Symmetra's laser (sorry about the name butcher I don't play overwatch)
Pasting a comprehensive list of reasons why I personally prefer Paladins to Overwatch here from another video, simply because most people on the Overwatch side of things don't know anything about Paladins except for misleading things like this video. Paladins is better balanced in general (Health ratios, TTK, etc, although it's currently in an odd recovery spot from OB64) Overwatch has worse balance but is prettier(when standing still), and was marketed bigger and better. (2500 hours TF2, 1000 hours Paladins, ~300 hours Overwatch) (Overwatch's ingame tracker is inaccurate, so it's probably more than that) Paladins' highest HP character is 2.5x the HP of the lowest HP character. Overwatch's highest HP character is 4x the HP of the lowest HP character. (Effectively 6x counting self heal, effectively 9x counting 50% damage reduction during said selfheal.) Paladins healing on one of its best healers averages at 750/s single target (To compare to OW, just divide by 10) Overwatch healing on its most similar character (Moira) is 80-110/s multi target. Paladins, even with their weaker healing, has a built in means to opt to reduce the value of healing Overwatch, outside of picking Ana, does not-- And Ana is not a valid excuse for not having such an option. In the current dive state of the game, Ana simply doesn't have enough in her kit to defend herself effectively against more than a single target every 10s. Lack of Ana and overvalue of healing contribute to a massive problem of Frontline TTK being too high and "squishy" TTK being too low or even instant, because damage numbers are inflated in order to provide threat to the frontlines and the huge HP shields. Paladins' supports have CC, utility, healing, and in general are intended to defend themselves by disabling enemies, buffing allies, or using movement abilities to flee bad situations. Overwatch's supports overwhelmingly do not have CC outside of Ana's sleep, have a sole purpose of healing, are intended to defend themselves through damage alone, and overwhelmingly have very little utility or buffs, obvious exceptions being Discord orb, Speed, and the largely neglected Damage Boost on Mercy. The fact that the list of CC, utility, and buff abilities from Overwatch's supports is as low as 4 is quite possibly the most extreme failing of Overwatch. Don't even get me started on the fact that Symmetra is listed in the support category despite doing absolutely nothing that a support role should. Paladins has fairly clear and concise visual design, and the movement never feels like a slough Overwatch has horribly unoptimized visual design(Name one person who likes looking through Moira ult, or Winston's massive array of effects, or the fact that half the maps are the same shade of red as the enemy outlines, etc) as well as horribly gimped default movement to attempt (and fail) to account for the fact that its ground movement has no momentum startup (Movement in Overwatch is so quick, almost instant, that it starts before character animations can. This means that when simply mashing A+D, your character essentially moonwalks-- Their animations fully desync from their direction of motion. Awful design.) So there you have it, if you really wanted reasons that someone would prefer Paladins over Overwatch, you can have them. I think Overwatch has potential. I really do. But these are massive stumbling blocks for it and they ruin the ability to enjoy the game for me. Not to mention that as a result of the movement issues as noted in the last point, fights are inconsistent, and in order to cater to lower skill players' experiences, Blizzard gave low skill requisite 1shots to a large portion of the cast, trivializing combat in order to ignore the significant problems with the feel of the gunplay.
As an aside as to why the video is misleading, comparing individual abilities cross game will *always* be a manipulative tactic. That'd be like me going to League of Legends, taking a bunch of ability footage from random characters, and pairing it to Overwatch characters. I'm sure Overwatch took inspiration from MOBA games and the like, practically certain. But I'm also certain that even though they share identical abilities, that they did not copy those games. Rather, these things have been staple abilities and icons in ability/magic/etc centric games from the getgo. Also on the side, people tend to forget that Paladins is not HiRez's only title-- The character designs and ability pools are largely reflected on in Smite, another title under HiRez, and one of the characters (Grover) even hails directly from Smite. When the characters, game, and goals play entirely differently and then someone tries to sell it to you as the same thing, they're manipulating you. Do some research yourself and you might be surprised.
Hello everyone i know I'm late on this fighting. But can we just stop? For everyone thing that JUST because Paladins came out before overwatch, doesn't means they copied paladins. First of all, who the hell told you that? No way overwatch just copied paladins in months. Overwatch was already being made a long time ago with the name Project Titan. So there is no way overwatch could have copied paladins. Also paladin didn't knew what overwatch was going to do, so how the hell did anyone of them copied each other. So what if one of the copied? They are both fps games people love to play.
Gapple ツ listen Paladins was original but then they saw how much better a masterpiece like overwatch was doing so they said fuck it we can do that, they then changed the game to make it just like over but not so much that blizzard could take it to a legal point
PSNgamer look i play overwatch, and i only play overwatch. I don't gave a flying fuck how (maybe) paladins copied overwatch. Even if they did, I don't care.
The makers of paladins have said they took multiple things from overwatch because they thought it whould be cool. BUT PALADINS WAS IN DEVELOPMENT FIRST BECAUSE THEY HAD AN OLDER GAME WITH CONSEPTS OF PALADINS WUGADFUGAJWDYUAWHDGAHDJNWBGDHAJWDGYAWDJ:SALT:AGWTYDUKAHWJD
Unie lol not defending paladins from the characters they did definitely copy, but you’re wrong here. Paladins releases characters far more frequently then OVW does, once a month like most others hero based games except ovw. Skye was out before sombra was even teased and it took almost a year for her to be released after her first tease. Besides neither game invented the stealth mechanic and the only other similarity between sky and sombra are a similar weapon so saying one copied the other is just being Vein. Now with the likes of Fernando, there’s no excusing that. He has the exact same move set as rein just with a different ult. Paladins did take a lot from overwatch with there early characters but as I said they are releasing characters a lot more often then overwatch and haven’t made a character anything like a over character in a long time, and some of the things in this video that paladins did have even been changed. Regardless paladins is better as the longer time to kill fits better for a team shooter the characters feel more diverse from one another, the maps make it more fair for both teams, and the developers actually make regular balance changes and content additions that keep the game going. Why do you think overwatchs fan base is just slowing falling off while paladins just keeps getting bigger, and the game isn’t even out of open beta yet.
I would love to see the look on everyone's face here in the comments section if they googled Global Agenda, kind of makes most of the "Paladins copied Overwatch" stuff here invalid.
Pretty much....Not suprised that most of the people that comment here about Paladins copying OW don't know shit about Global agenda. They were wearing diapers back in 2010....
Zeal Senpai the video revealing Artifact had people leaning at the edge of their seats, hoping for a new, fun game. As soon as the subtext stated that it was a card game, everyone groaned and lost interest lmao.
Now in 2018: *Paladins looks at the melee mechanic and uses it for Androxus* Overwatch: "Bro, stop copying my shit" *peeks at Sha Lin and uses his ability for Hanzo* Paladins: "I can't even call it ironic"
Actually, completely outside of Overwatch, people had been asking for a kind of quick melee for a long time (I'm sorry, but Overwatch didn't invent that. Not even close.) Paladins devs decided against it as a whole, since it would break TTK balance for a lot of characters pretty hard, but it fit with Andro's playstyle, role, and was a better feeling replacement for what was largely considered a useless ability. I get that you're joking, but a lot of the Overwatch side of things tend to not be able to differentiate between something that's a joke and something that's serious, so context is always helpful.
I’m actually glad there’s multiple games like these. People just play what they want and maybe prefer a different experience than others. Like Fortnite vs PUBG, or COD vs Battlefield. It’s what makes gaming awesome!
Silly Billy it would make gaming awesome If it was a good Game (paladins) but they added no new aspects they just clicked Copy and Paste.(sorry for Bad english)
No, it's cancerous, all people try to copy whatever is popular and/or making money, nobody ever tries to do something new, and when someone tries to do something brand new and succeeds, everyone creates their own clone and deny whatever is said about them copying the other game, shameful
Ik like they both r hero shooter's but they got so much different things than the other, card system loadouts, mounts, skins that change appearance and voices, like there different
although paladins was in beta before overwatch was, paladins changed it's game structure, mechanics and characters resembling a bit more like overwatch after it was released.
Except it didn't. The mechanics didn't change. The rocket launcher guy was from Hirez's old game/IP tribes, which Pharah is apparently inspired by in the Wiki. None of the characters were "changed." The old game mode is coming back, it sucked back then.
Fahim Rahman but the newer characters paladins is releasing steal elements from existing overwatch characters. For example far after overwatch was released Hi Rez put out Maeve (Genji) and Torvald (Symmetra with Torbjorn's name)
So you are saying that maeve (throwing daggers and a dash) resembles genji... BECAUSE DASHES ARE RARE IN VIDEO GAMES. And except the beam there is 0 fucking simmilarities with torvald and symmetra like wtf. And if X has to copy Z in this situation, OW definetely ripped off skye with the entire design, weapon and abilities... A purple assasin that can turn invisible and has a low damage/high firerate weapon.... And i just can't XD... Copied torbjorn's name XD. 3 first letters and it's a copy XD
One thing I think Paladins does better than Overwatch is their supports. After being a Mercy main for a while and being nerfed 13 times, I discoved Furia which is a support but she feels impactful. The supports in Paladins feels like you are impactful and not just a heal bot. Both are team based games but I feel like in OW the supports are too reliant on the team, while in Paladins I can do a ton of damage, keep my team up, and feel like I'm doing something which feels awesome and like a hero. Although I just recently downloading the game. Any advice for it ? :)
Supports on Ow are great too, watch Moira, Nice damage and nice Healing, Zenyatas is very Power Full with his orb and Brigite is good too on short distances
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OW fans keep bashing Paladin fans, and paladin fans keep fighting back, it's like wash rinse repeat but instead, it's like a drama movie for all of the TF2 fans that are just like :/ ~meh
I play both overwatch and tf2, never really got into Paladins, but I'm planning on getting it in my schedule once I'm done binge watching anime and nonstop playing a few games that are still in my wait list. Seems pretty fun though.
The Creative Angel Ow fans: Ur game ripped of our game in every way! We have everything better!! Paladins fans: we have more characters, have a free to play game and has cool devs! Tf2 fans: Uhm... What are we even watching at at this point...
it isnt the same, the animation play style is similar, and that could go for many games as well,BUT, the overall character and setting style is far different, Overwatch has a futuristic earth kind of style, but Paladins gives a fantasy style, also the move sets seem similar but paladins has art for every ability
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Let me explain my opinion on this whole "Overwatch to Paladins" comparison nonsense...
I've played both Overwatch and Paladins; I have about 100 hours in Paladins, a little more in Overwatch; truth to be told is that they are two different games... two different flavors. I wouldn't say that one copied ideas from the other, nor that they "copy" any other video games that came before them. It's very easy to think of a game concept, then to point out similarities to it in other games. Over the past decades game development has been speeding up faster than before, and with development of new games comes overlapping ideas and concepts.
You can go ahead and prove to others that Global Agenda was the inspiration for Paladins abilities, or use Blizzard's previous idea of "Titan" to prove or disprove its authenticity. What it boils down to is that you should play what you enjoy, and be happy doing so. Spreading hate towards fan groups that you don't exactly agree with is no way to live.
The point of this video was to give visual aid to people who have compared certain abilities between the two games in the past. I certainly don't see the relation between some of these comparisons, but that wasn't the point. Some people are visual learners, and this was made to assist those people. I do not intend to spread hate or judgement to either one of these groups of avid video gamer players. I sincerely apologize if I did.
I hope this clears things up, thank you so much for your time!
*_PS:_*_ That broken English comment was pinned because it was funny as hell_
Fract No offence but you seem to have gone through a great amount of effort to make some of these moves appear more similar than they actually are. Androxus can dash in 360 degrees yet you compared it to Tracers blink in one direction. You also made Reinhardt charge into a wall to shorten the length so it appears closer in distance to Fernandos dash. Reinhardt shield can rotate completely around him while Nandos a shield is locked to where he's facing. I'm sorry but I don't believe you when you say this video wasn't meant to spread hate.
theomegarose, I see why you say that, and honestly it's my fault because I am a lazy editor.
To explain: Take the Fernando/Reinhardt shield comparison. I recorded Paladins footage first, then tried my best to match the length of the file when recording Overwatch. I shortened the length of Reinhardt's charge not to make the abilities appear more similar than they are, but so that I wouldn't have to do any extra cuts or editing work on the footage.
You can use this when comparing any other abilities as well. I just tried to match the lengths of each piece of footage.
I'm sorry if this came across as me trying to deceive you, or anyone else.
Fract It's all good. Thanks for clearing that up.
Fract what is the song in the background called?
Fract i
I wish I brought some popcorn to this comment section.
RetroRoibee lol IKR
RetroRoibee me to xD
Ikr.
Much better is the video has good music while reading the comment section
More like bleach
"I have both games please dont hurt me"
10/10
Dude I love these games, their like tf2 children and thes games are really good, sucks that their companies don't care about them anymore
I won’t if you play OW more...... 😈
@@colegladiatordoesgames3132 Ow I stopped my toe on that edge
@@colegladiatordoesgames3132 OW is trash lmao
@@pot6577 Better palatrash
Reading the comment section while listening to the beautiful music
What a time to be alive
ah, you're a person of art i see
Ah the beauty of watching watching people throw shit at each other in the form of words.
The Evil Within Soundtrack is beautiful!
Listening this music remembers me the fight of Asuka vs Eva Series
If you like this music, I recommend you try this version, its a lot more better!
Johann Sebastian Bach - Suite nº 3, BWV 1068 (Karajan)
TF2: aw, look how they grow up
Blade The Slayer *sniff* they grow up so fast.
Blade The Slayer Pacman:
Aww... They are so cute with their father
;;Sombra huh ?
We need TF2 on Maury
There such cute twins
All first person shooters copied real life
England is my Gender 😂😂😂
I know dude what the fuck
You just changed my life
i read half life for a second
TO DE SACO CHEIO Half life 3 confirmed?
The right screen : what ubisoft shows us in E3
The left screen: what the game looks like when it comes out
This is the only genuinely funny thing I've seen in this comment section.
Take your filthy like.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
lol
Aziz Alduwaisan hilarious
Video: Seris and Sombra Ability are the Same!
Skye: Am i a joke to you?
i think he made it for the similar hand movement
skye is just tracer and dva ult lol
it's funny that people compare sombra and skye when skye came out first. also happens with barik when barik was shown off in the alpha before torb was ever shown
@@godlyvex5543 barik is not even designed the same as torbjörn lol. It only looks similar on a surface level with the turret but the kit is completely different and nothing is the same. Torbjörn is a damage dealer and barik is a tank end of story. But nope, barik can place a turret and his weapon is totally the”same weapon as torbjörn that is totally a projectile weapon and not a hitscan”, therefor barik copied torbjörn no questions asked…
@@DemiCape dude overwatch was released in 2016, barik exists since the closed beta on 2015.
Almost one year before.
Before you argue over which game came first, realize that The Lion King is a carbon-copy of Hamlet.
Genius
That made my day
Mason Lee oh shit
Mason Lee no Lion King is clearly a rip off of kimba the white lion 👀
TheColorlessKingg
The Lion King is waaaay better tho so yeah it really doesn't matter. :)
Who came here just to read the comments ? X)
-Ga MiX- me
-Ga MiX- me I like drama
I wanted to correct every 3 years old baby that says that Paladins is a rip-off of OverWatch
Me.
Dat was terrible and delicious at the same time. Got no regrets !
Yall still living in 2017 while I'm here waiting for the release of The emoji movie : The game
Sweg Koala will it be a battle royal?
Lav55 going to be an RPG and the giant map is going to be the phone
If they release a game, i bet there will be ads everywhere x)
Sweg Koala back when all movies had tie in games
The game ends with a noose that just says "Do it"
*ThEy bOTh copIEd TeTriS cUZ iT uSEs pIXeLs oMg gET It RiGHt GuYs*
@Bruno Acosta here we see a toxic 12 year old in its natural habitat, do be careful because they do bite, fun fact: 99.99 percent of the males of this species are most likely to remain virgins until they reach the age of 90.
@Bruno Acosta is the joke bro
Bruno Acosta Quite Bluish was saying as a joke you. Are you really toxic about that. Lol 😂
welp we have serious people outta here
QUITE BLIUSH U ARE RIGHT, THEY NEED TO SUE EVERY VIDEO YAME EVET XD. Your comment made me laugh
OW fanboys: WHERE ARE NEW SKINS
Paladins players: WHERE ARE BUG FIXES
@SL3DG3 no thats overwatch comp to
@@mercoispog completly
Bomb king is the most annoying thing in the world
@@dweagon Moji.... Moji.... The frikin Mojj highest dmg in the Paladins...
True
I love how OW "fanboys" actually keep calm, meanwhile Paladins fanboys lose their shit.
Brum ;-; Sure man, because OW fangays are busy nitpicking other games.
Brum ;-; Lmao overwatch fans are toxic as shit
Da xua Fangays? Wow what a roast. Overwatch is a high quality fps that is great. Paladins is an alright game but a complete rip off. Hi Rez needs to stick to smite which is an amazing game.
Paladins a complete rip off?But Paladins has a card system and some of the characters came before some of the characters of Overwatch(Evie,Skye and etc).Also it has many different abilities like changing people into chickens,if u hold space u can glide,a ability that makes the enemy not able to shoot 9r use abilities and etc.So it's still a *complete* rip off because it's a fps with abilities that came from different games(Dota,Tf2,Global agenda and etc).
Nightmares 61103 is triggered
People saying "oh overwatch is dying" or "tf2 is dying" this is what i say to you.
aren't we all?
yes we are
Legend wait for it
DARY
Jay Jay The Jet Plane You've made me depressed now I shall think about this every time I sleep.Thank you sir
we all are..but somethings die faster than others. you can consider OW is dying but be here for 20 yrs..while paladins is dying like immediately...its like it was made with cancer.
tf2 is the usain bolt of dying
Overwatch squad like
Paladin's gang comment
Yeet
I'm both. Played Paladins when I couldn't afford OW but still at times prefer Paladins over OW
I’m broke
Paladin
Paladins
Paladins has a "WoW" style (magic, wizards, spells, old places, etc)
And Overwatch has that "Portal" feeling and style (technology, futuristic environments, advanced weapons, etc)
I say this because no matter how the characters and their habilities are nearly the same, the most important thing is that Paladins has his own style and artwork, Overwatch too, so both games are awesome. Thats my oppinion.
yeśsss
And many of the heroes In paladins came out before overwatch lmao People says paladins is rip off all the ow heroes
@@DailyJoker69 Bruh honestly.
LEED Last time i checked paladins was in development in 2014-2015 and overwatch was in 2012-2013 so.....
@@fjayazx8155 And some of the champs in paladins were released earlier than some of those in overwatch, do they have spies working at eachothers companies? who cares! let's just enjoy the games we love :)
Haha "I love both games please don't hurt me"
Me too...
JeiVey Ord omh i love ur profile pic so cool overwatch paladins teme
RockGaming LOLoverwatch
Oh thanks mate.. :)
RockGaming LOLoverwatch
Call it "Pala-Watch"
JeiVey Ord and i am making a overwatch vs tf2 comic where some paladin character play the roles of mercenarys
I wish I never looked at the comment section
Edit: I know this is old but jeez 1.1k likes thanks 👍
Leon Williams same
Leon Williams cancer mine
Leon Williams cancer at its finest
Pip Main yep
I feel like i need to go see a doctor after reading these, to detoxify myself, at least now i know why not to buy OW, the community itself
Some of Paladins characters came before Overwatch ones, and vice versa
Two copy cats who are improving with each others ideas....its a profit
@@Shreper ow is literally a copy for Mann vs. Machine and paladins with Talents and shit
@@zumaky18 u reply after 3 weeks...i dont remember when i typed this and why
@@zumaky18 paladins was release after overwatch dumb
@@sete6429 You know paladins start developing the game first, but overwatch = blizzard = big budget so release first. ''dumb''
How to end a war: both development teams happened to attend a group brainstorming event and now they developed games that have similar features.
Hey can I copy your homework
Yeah sure just change it a little so people don’t know
wow! so original!
diamond illuminati calm down m8.
I'll play TF2 when they fix the balancing.
Magical Wolfy they won't. Tf will be tf2
CosmicKitten10 It means...Overwatch is the correct answer!
Meh, I don't care.
*proceeds to play minesweeper*
haven4858 that's some OG shit *sits down next to ya* move over let's play two player
u know minesweeper copied OW and OW copied minecraft which mean minesweeper is poor mans minecraft
Come on, man, we all know that Minsweeper is just a cheap knock off of a Vietnamese kids life.
how could you say OW copied minecraft what a kid lol at least you can say tf2 or dirty bomb
PUBG and Fortnite copied Minecraft Hunger Games.
I play Overwatch mostly and played Paladins, but trust me. If Hi-Rez Studios had Blizzard Games Budget.
That's sad. No competition creates a monopoly, and so it does not increase the quality of the product, as it's the only option...
I was about to make this comment. Have a like/upvote.
Hirez wont ever need blizzards budget and ow will never be as good as paladins
@@eyelove4206 exactly I agree
eye love nobody even plays paladins lmao
Besides the graphics and all, the major thing is that basically nobody talks in voicechat on paladins compared to overwatched, even on ranked/competitive
DO YOU CHALLENG MAKOA?
Carlos Gomes *you dare challenge makos
ROADHOG REPORTING FOR DUTY
Ow is a big deal hmm but can it challenge makoa?
Termminus challenge
I Will not die no yet amigo
overwatch: yo lil bro stop copying me
paladins: i aint copying you big bro just following
TF2: they grew up so fast
wasnt paladins in development first or so i hear ;p ?
Paladins initial release date: 16 sep 2016
Overwatch initial release date: 24 may 2016
Sure paladins probably was, but before both of them ( i think?) blizzard was developing Titan (somewhere in 2013 or something? idk) , but they scrapped it and turned it into overwatch. the develpment of OW started in 2014, dont know about paladins. im not exatly sure about this, but my point is, Titan came way before paladins. Perhaps.
Kodokuna Akuma yeah development that can mean maps then characters so yeah
JuhpPug actually global agenda was original going to be paladins wich started development in 2004 but got turned into two.games
silver star hmm, okay. Interesting how some Games always get split up or cancelled, you know.
I feel like the man who made thos video was like:
"OPEN THE GATES OF WAR!"
Then waited in the comments
no no no. . . it was more like
"OPEN THE GATES OF WAR!, but yall better leave me out of it. . . ."
Having finally bought overwatch this recent anniversary... i kinda like paladins moba system of keeping the abilitie bound to the same set of keys alot more. And the card system (minus the cards unbound shit) is a great way to augment the game vs the same champs with the same counters and team comps that can't be altered or counter built...
Aww, Yes. Someone who ACTUALY played both games and THEEEEN make a video abaut it.
Thank you.
Netii bruh he said lex was a reaper copy just cuz their weapons have similar firing animations.
Ptolemy Bear I think you commented in the wrong place...
Netii niqqa paladins is for poor people who don't like ovewatch
The Gaming Life they copy and pasted
This video is more inaccurate than my aim on all games ever.
Guys, you know its possible to like both games, right?
Paladins has a slight, unique moba-fps vibe to it, while overwatch has a competitive-fps one. So why can't some people adore both?
You speak blasphemy boi.
Yes it is
Just like me
I like both
It is, but I don't
the last character that came out overwatch (ashe and bob) is the complete copy of lian and khan that came out 4 or 6 months earlier than in overwatch
except Lian plays absolutely nothing like Ashe and vice versa. plus Bob is closer to Argus for Hera on Smite than he is Khan on Paladins
@@JondarKorric you right
OW D.Va was released on June 20, 2017 while Ruckus' release date is November 17, 2015
201?
@@zumaky18
edited
Yeah lmao fernando is way ilder than the shield guy in ow ppl are just stup
@@Seiseary
True
@@AhmedSK143 I'd actually compare Wrecking Ball and Ruckus, they are way more similar
Well this is going to be a spicy comment section *grabs popcorn and starts reading comments*
how do you make the comment fat written?
jolioding _ add a * before and after a word. *like this*
ok thank you
*i see*
*woa*
Art for paladins was Actually out way before overwatch
it's the opposite
@@SnowzinHue the beta for paladins came out before overwatch plus paladins Better
@@astolfo7499 what do you have to back up that paladins is better? Also saying ‘free’ doesn't determine if it's better
@@buttertastegood9525 it’s more creative. They both took what team fortress 2 did but only one made innovating changes to it 🤷🏽♂️the ability to make changes to how the characters base kits work is what will forever put paladins above OW. Better graphics don’t mean shit when 85% of the community is suffering while on the game 😭
0:43 HA JOKES ON YOU, BOTH OF THESE CHARACTERS HAVE BEEN REWORKED
lmao let's be honest, if overwatch was free, paladins would get only 30% of the players they have now.
Edit: I cant stop laughing over the butthurt replies
Matt 10%
True
I have both games but I still prefer to play paladins. Actually why can't they just make a crossover, that would've been great
JessieYT Deal with the community huh? tbh The community isn't as bad as people say, I barely run into toxic people but you find those in every game so what's the difference. Why can't you just sit and play the game. You don't have to go on forums or talk in chat. Boom problem solved.
Biskuttey nope. Play styles are different not everyone cares for the free of it. Someone wants to be custom to their character and have a more strategy way of gaming. Then paladins. How so? First of all, No changing your character during combat which idk why thats a thing. Ranked ban system so it keeps ranked fresh with no clones. So honestly not really. It'd be the same. Even overwatch players are leaving
Am I the only one who is glad that both games exist?
Gaming Spite there both good lol but overwatch is toxic af and im kinda enjoying paladins more.
ItsDash yea but sometimes paladins fandom can be toxic as well
Ps. I play paladins
Both are great, except overwatch suck.
Gaming Spite. Yes
I never played overwatch, and i play paladins all time, and i can tell you paladins has a lot of trollers and boosted on ranked, and ranked is toxic, but then the other modes are good and chill, without problems.
You know didn't think I needed to say this but...
This war between OW and Paladins is just infuriating, like can two games just co-exist? I personally like both games and enjoyed both of them, but the fact that the fans keep comparing these game to the other can really get you down... If we apply the same logic to other games then that would mean COD is a copy of Battlefield or vice versa... We have been living in a day of age where we have the power to bring people together by just pressing buttons, and it could've been great (or atleast better than the past) if it weren't for toxic communities.. We humans have co-existed with each other before but why break down now when we're so close to a new era of change... People need to stop thinking that everything is a competition, if you like the product then like it and leave, don't try to force your opinions on other people because that would cause more problems than just comparing... Both of these fandoms started an argument based on their opinions, and no one will win because they're throwing opinions/hypotheticals rather than facts... But even so can we just drop this whole mess?? It's not helping anyone
Sorry for long comment here is a ♡
Excel You deserve my like after that long story
Paladin Aw thanks
You know, it’s for good reason... because these games aren’t just of the same genre. (Like Overwatch and TF2) The war is in the fact that Paladins straight up rips off quite a few aspects of overwatch. (Victor is 76, Fernando is Rein, etc.)
@@crimsonmaverick8237 Ya know Overwatch copied some aspects from Paladins too (Skye=Sombra Ruckus=Dva and Sha lin's rapid fire
Paladin Probably, I think it was payback
Overwatch has way better graphics, polish, lighting etc. while paladins has the ability for champions to be diverse. How I play Talus or Ying is very different to how the next player does. This is due to loudout cards, items and abilities. Personally, the beautiful look on overwatch isn’t enough to keep me on it, polish and lighting can only go so far.
Finally someone who understands 🔥
Ahh
A fellow intelectual
That is exactly what i don't like in paladins
I find paladins to unbalanced, I know that's hypocritical given overwatches history with goats n stuff but I feel like paladins doesn't try to be balanced or fair, it's alot of chaos, it seems like a less serious, less strategic and less polished, it's definitely a fun game but it's difficult to enjoy when I can just play Overwatch, also I do love how many characters you can play in Paladins just sucks that so many of the characters are copy and paste from other games
@@mintii... lmao both games have a lot of mechanics from other games especially the og TF2 so they both copy but yeah I like both games and even though they might seem similar they are very different
The funny part is , in 2017 , People still excuse Ow or Paladins for stealing their personality , it doesn't matter at all actually , both games are good , and it's nice they made it this far.
Maarten Geens yes but i just think that sometimes some creativity could be nice
Swoodie Toxic but creativity exist, other thing is that you dont see it in both games.
xX Magical Vibes Xx you're right at the point thats may a copy but Lets not forgot that these games , are still populair today , people enjoy what they play , let Them be ,as i say *become who you are* im Happy that there arent bad on comments My tweet lol
i would say its kinda the opposite, overwatch was marketed first, had better advertisement and more money behind, that makes people think it is paladins that copied when it was overwatch
www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/53qusf/a_brief_history_of_paladins_as_response_to/
this sheds a little light on how people keep being misinformed, it all comes down to marketing in the end
overwatch looks better, gameplay is tigher, and has a nicely crafted universe
paladins is more tactical, has more diverse gameplay and overall even though it doesnt look as good, it offers more in terms of technicality
DevilsmilE01 i complete agree
TF2: Big Papa
Overwatch and Paladins = 2 Fighthing Brothers
+Skai TF2 have 50 - 90k online users and paladins have idk 20?
Tekatar İnatör "they grow up so fast"
I see a TF2 fan here.Well he’s not papa anymore.He’s ded.
Well Overwatch is the talented and original son,and Paladins is the disabled homeless one.
P.S.I have like 100+hrs in all the games and I think,that TF2 is nice but dead;Paladins are crap(And the community is so toxic,and dumb(Hi-Rez talks about Global Agenda as their own project,tho u have character creation cos it’s an mmo as eso));And overwatch has good gameplay and balance+not that much toxic idiots.
@@dx_5222 kinda weird since nobody really talks in paladins.
Also,"overwatch has less toxic idiots"
I think that comment speaks for itself.
I see you being VERY biased to overwatch.
I kinda see overwatch and paladins as the shimadas. Genji= overwatch and hanzo= paladins.
Get it?
Well Paladins did start their development earlier that overwatch...
unless they publish their development records, that means nothing, cuz restarting halfway through like I do with my homework is completely possible
Hahaha it's not true
Overwatch started developing in 2011
And, was fully playable in 2014
You see, theres this thing called a genre
You could end the war with that sentence, people don't realize that games are always gonna be a "ripoff" of each other cause they are in the same genre. Tf2, paladins and overwatch are the same genre, thats why they are so similar, even in characters, cause some abilities are just necessary for that genre. Just how it works. Paladins is the way to go for me, overwatch was good, they made it worse imo
Genre doesn't mean you make the exact game lol
@@froggo5690 half of these are basic mechanics like dashes and cloaks
@@beckettFPS not really with how they are presented tf2 was the genre pioneer whereas paladins is a paraphrased version of overwatch with almost exact presentation, you seriously can't look at the shield and hook mechanics without at least thinking that one ripped off the other
Exactly. Imagine thinking Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter are the same game because there's a guy that throws fireballs and a big wrestler guy in both
Fun fact. Like over half the mechanics listed can also be found in the other Hi-Rez game SMITE, which came out long before Overwatch was born.
*The History of Paladins:*
Global Agenda, a class based Shooter/MMO game, was started in 2005 as the studio’s first project.
The Global Agenda design was inspired by Tribes (Jetpacks, Weapons), City of Heroes (cool Abilities, instanced PvE missions), and TF2 (Classes, Instanced PvP, weapon types). The initial idea was how to make a City of Heroes type mmo/game with real shooting.
Global Agenda was released in 2010 and we learned many lessons from it. It had too many features and game modes for us to be able to maintain enough depth into each one (5 different PvP modes, AvA, Solo/Co-Op PvE, Raids, Double agent, open world missions as well as complex MMO features like crafting, auction system, AVA world map, and much more)
Global Agenda was no longer generating much revenue even after some later expansions were released (like Sandstorm) and we started looking at alternative games we could create
One group began working on a new Tribes game (which became Tribes: Ascend) while another group started working on a third-person moba game (which became Smite).
In 2012 we started another project named Aurum (AU), it was a Fantasy based Global Agenda PvP like game and the first inspiration for Paladins. You can see from the video link below how the style is cartoony fantasy.
In Paladins (code name Chaos) pre-production, we experimented with both the Global Agenda Sci-Fi theme and the Aurum Fantasy theme. After a lot of testing the project team decided to go with the Fantasy theme.
Overwatch was announced. We were shocked and not sure what direction to take. We were already so far along with Paladins, but we didn't want to compete directly against Blizzard.
We initially tried to find different ways to differentiate on game-play (different TTK, different style maps and game modes, different theme, etc), but the feedback from our tests, stats, and surveys showed that only a small part of our population was enjoying that style of game. In the end we said screw it and just made what we thought best, and closest to our original vision, even if people would think it's too close to Overwatch.
We created almost all the Paladins classes and abilities using Global Agenda and Smite as our template. We used our Aurum fantasy theme from 2012 and Smite characters as placeholders (although some like Grover the tree just stayed).
As a last point, it would be almost impossible for a studio of our size to 'clone' Overwatch in a year, but Overwatch did have some nice features that we decided to incorporate into Paladins (Kill Cam, Improved Lag comp, some verbiage like 'eliminations')
They incorporated some features, they never stole the entire fucking game.
Ah, someone did their homework.
@@rochelleidanan1405 nah, thats literally just a copy - paste from a post that the co-founder of paladins posted
why is everyone comparing those 2 games? cant we just enjoy them?
SMOOTHDAN because they are games for kids and kids can't stand it if you have an opinion over the internet.
@@vintejj Oh hello there. You're the type of person that thinks most games and cartoons are for kids. You're wrong and I don't even really need to explain why because it should be obvious. Carry on.
̇ ͜ʟ ̇ nope, not at all, it is very common for a popular uprising game to have a sudden grow of fanbase aged very young. cartoons dont mean anything, we both know these 2 games have plenty of kids in their fanbase, and they do not understand what an opinion is, scroll down this comment section and see. if this game was full of adults, no one would care about this paladins vs ow bullshit, because they are mature and understand, they're just games, don't care at all, doesn't affect adults,
@@vintejj You say that like adults don't act like moronic children all the time.
̇ ͜ʟ ̇ well, if you think an adult would care about differences between 2 games, then go ahead
they were inspired by each other but in the end it turned out completely different games
Wow someone understands
Finally
Thank you
The Clone Wars
Franek Bera Hell yes
cough cough overwatch copied tf2 cough
right
xd
ok this was a nice one
Let me copy your homework.
Sure but change a bit so it's not obvious you copied it.
Nathan Dang paladins was devd earlier but released after. don hurt me i love overwatch too but just tellin
You literally did what your comment says lmfao was that intended?
Neo Rad nah ov beta 2013
Jeff from the Overwatch team paladins was first in 2009 idiot
Tbh paladins is alot better than ow
BUT IN PALADINS YOU DOES'NT HAVE G O A T
this joke didn't age well
r/agedlikemilk
@@blob2557 True
Yes but now do an Overwatch/Team Fortress 2 comparison. Blizzard was, let's say, heavily inspired by Valve as well.
hmmmmmm lemme think
Payload
Shooter game
Classes
Sniper that charges shots
Healing beam
Both had really good animated shorts
Invisibility
A turret
A rocket launcher
Though none of these really work exactly the same except the payload :/
@@scytherzilla "both had really good animated short" bruh
@@maxaro5044 ?
@@scytherzilla you can say that about pretty much every PvP game
@@maxaro5044 That's true
After looking through the comments a bit, I have this to say.
In terms of characters, both games were made and released at roughly the same time, so most of the characters that happen to act similarly is either a coincidence or they both borrow from the same thing.
A lot of it can be contributed to popular MOBAs, such as...
(Makoa and Roadhog) The act of using a hook or anchor to pull someone towards you.
(Tracer, Androxus, Meave, and Genji) The act of dashing quickly, either toward an enemy as a means of attack, or away as a means of escape.
(Inara and Mei) Summoning a wall or other object to block an enemy path.
(Reaper, Grohk, Seris, and Mal Damba (to an extent)) Temporarily becoming intangible as a form of escape.
(Evie and Mei) Using their element to surround and protect themselves.
(Doomfist and Drogoz) Punching things with your fist.
Sometimes, they're taken from another game, like Team Fortress 2.
(Barik and Torbjorn)
Both are like The Engineer where they spawn turrets in order to do the bulk of their damage. With Barik focusing a low build time but low damage (like Engineer's mini turret), and Torbjorn focusing on High build time but high damage (like Engie's default Level 3, they even both use rockets).
(Skye and Sombra) Both are like The Spy in which they sneak around while invisible. Sombra focuses more so on sabotaging that enemy team with her hacking like Spy with his sapper, and Skye focuses more on weakening the enemy team by killing key team mates like snipers and Supports like the Spy does with his cloak and back stab.
I could keep going, but I doubt most have read this far. Overall, drawing inspiration from another company or rival company isn't a bad thing. Neither Paladins or Overwatch borrow so much from one another or other games that they should be considered rip offs.
Sonic isn't considered a rip off of Mario because they're are both 2D platformers. Mortal Kombat isn't considered a rip off of Street Fighter because they are both 2D Fighting games. Halo isn't a rip off of Call of Duty because they're both First Person Shooters.
Paladins shouldn't be considered a rip off of Overwatch...
Overwatch shouldn't be considered a rip off of Paladins...
...because they're both Team Based Shooters.
Keegan-Moore ok gg I read 7 character abilities and I liked the comment u dude are either u research a lot or u played both games u are legendary
I am impressed, finally someone that uses his brain, sadly not everyone makes this thinking. You are a person that can see what is actually happening
Keegan-Moore underrated comment right here
Finally someone who isn't a dipshit, thank you
Keegan-Moore
Thank you
Don't get me wrong, I love BOTH games, but that Bomb King ultimate is so identical to Junkrat's
do not take me wrong but, one is a mobile bomb and the other, you're the same bomb, it's like you shoot fire and another, you're the same fire
they may look the same, but they are different
It looks like water, but it's alcohol and the other is just water.
both are transparent, both are fruidos, but in themselves they are different
Yeah, and even the poppy bomb/landmine leap. I wonder what they were thinking lol.
XelaRazalas bomb king came first
Black star Ford yea true but junkrat was perfected first (don't get me wrong I love paladins I have 12 days on it)
XelaRazalas it was most likely not identical
“ aye bruh can I copy your hw ?”
“ yeah but don’t make it look like u copied “
“ aight bet “
I'm someone who tried both games at the same time last year having never seen gameplay before. Overwatch easily got me hooked over paladins. Paladins is an ok game but overwatch has some kind of charm with it as well as being a polished game
the shooting just feels better too...
Overwatch is unbalanced as f, just saying
@@l0stbergfred nah it isn't. paladins is way more unbalanced. lets not forget azaan.
@@momdad1818 Its unbalanced but not as unbalanced as Overwatch
@@l0stbergfred what do u mean💀 azaan literally breaks the game there is no extremely op ow hero
but can Overwatch challenge Makoa???
Nope no one can challange Makao
Tekatar İnatör I feel road hog can stand a chance
xd
Roadhog can stand a chance vs Makoa? XD
Makoa The Ancient is the best
Overwatch,TF2,Paladins is a remake of Cool math game "WAKE UP PEOPLE"
I remember playing the shit out that 7 years ago lmao
0:21
I didn't know Overwatch invented revolvers. Guess all the history books were wrong
Shane what the fuck are you on about
Who's saying that?
FreeStudios exactly. what is he on about
beatboxbrain I think Shane is saying that it’s not copying overwatch because revolvers are real guns. Which I mean is a valid argument, but still with all the other stuff that’s been copy pasted it’s safe to say that they added the revolver dude (forgot his name) as a mix between reaper and mccree
You just asume that the vid is saying paladins copied overwatch
Although Paladins is free to play, it still has less bugs than Overwatch does...
Not really,i found a lot of bug (usually visual one) but some bug are not removed cause its need skill to use and not a game breaking one (popular example:rocket jump)
Uhhh you sure about that
well yes but actually no
I just got Paladins and I can’t even log in without trying 20 times over and over
Thats a big L. Hell na
When someone asks to copy your homework and you say "Sure, just change it a little."
OVERWATCH...paladins
Nickle Dime clearly you haven't played any of the games
LiewPlays I've played both
LiewPlays for a loooong time
Gamebreaker nope, I had lost my Overeatch disk for a little while, and I had heard of a free poor mans Overwatch clone, and I got it
Should of got tf2 or global agenda or quake if you wanted an overwatch clone. Even though they all came before overwatch.
How in the fuck do u compare sombra to seris but not skye?
Truth_810 can skye hack? no...boom
HappyPokemonLitten the fire kitten, Can Seris hack? no...boom
Alpha Prix wtf is your point i cant hear u theres so many champions in that game ( *COPY* game)
j1smk0 wow u seriously dont need to insult me
j1smk0 very mature
The symetra and torvald thing... Haha! Both had a rework now
Yeah Torvald's beam now nullifies champion abilities making it more akin to sombra's hack than Symmetra's laser (sorry about the name butcher I don't play overwatch)
Profi Quack did you know sombra got a rework and now Skye is
@@cullenwendolek8799 she got visual rework only
@@cullenwendolek8799 and did you know skye was in alpha (late 2016) so blizzard actually copy paladins. what now
@@swolzer No one copied anyone. Can a developer not take inspiration without getting flamed? Both games are fine and I've had fun with.
The music made this video even better.
I own both overwatch and paladins and i would recommend saving up for overwatch but paladins can be fun.
LRK007 I just bought overwatch like 2 weeks ago because a friend finally convinced me and man it's complete ass
that's your opinion and I respect dat
Daniel Perez I'm sorry you are not enjoying it, I gave it some time and found it to be a great game.
Daniel Perez ye its aids
Yeah I play overwatch on PS4 and paladins as well but it is true that overwatch did take som aspects from paladins
I have not played both games but overwatch seems much better MY OPINION
No hate
iLaZer it is
Pasting a comprehensive list of reasons why I personally prefer Paladins to Overwatch here from another video, simply because most people on the Overwatch side of things don't know anything about Paladins except for misleading things like this video.
Paladins is better balanced in general (Health ratios, TTK, etc, although it's currently in an odd recovery spot from OB64)
Overwatch has worse balance but is prettier(when standing still), and was marketed bigger and better.
(2500 hours TF2, 1000 hours Paladins, ~300 hours Overwatch)
(Overwatch's ingame tracker is inaccurate, so it's probably more than that)
Paladins' highest HP character is 2.5x the HP of the lowest HP character.
Overwatch's highest HP character is 4x the HP of the lowest HP character. (Effectively 6x counting self heal, effectively 9x counting 50% damage reduction during said selfheal.)
Paladins healing on one of its best healers averages at 750/s single target (To compare to OW, just divide by 10)
Overwatch healing on its most similar character (Moira) is 80-110/s multi target.
Paladins, even with their weaker healing, has a built in means to opt to reduce the value of healing
Overwatch, outside of picking Ana, does not-- And Ana is not a valid excuse for not having such an option.
In the current dive state of the game, Ana simply doesn't have enough in her kit to defend herself effectively against more than a single target every 10s. Lack of Ana and overvalue of healing contribute to a massive problem of Frontline TTK being too high and "squishy" TTK being too low or even instant, because damage numbers are inflated in order to provide threat to the frontlines and the huge HP shields.
Paladins' supports have CC, utility, healing, and in general are intended to defend themselves by disabling enemies, buffing allies, or using movement abilities to flee bad situations.
Overwatch's supports overwhelmingly do not have CC outside of Ana's sleep, have a sole purpose of healing, are intended to defend themselves through damage alone, and overwhelmingly have very little utility or buffs, obvious exceptions being Discord orb, Speed, and the largely neglected Damage Boost on Mercy. The fact that the list of CC, utility, and buff abilities from Overwatch's supports is as low as 4 is quite possibly the most extreme failing of Overwatch. Don't even get me started on the fact that Symmetra is listed in the support category despite doing absolutely nothing that a support role should.
Paladins has fairly clear and concise visual design, and the movement never feels like a slough
Overwatch has horribly unoptimized visual design(Name one person who likes looking through Moira ult, or Winston's massive array of effects, or the fact that half the maps are the same shade of red as the enemy outlines, etc) as well as horribly gimped default movement to attempt (and fail) to account for the fact that its ground movement has no momentum startup (Movement in Overwatch is so quick, almost instant, that it starts before character animations can. This means that when simply mashing A+D, your character essentially moonwalks-- Their animations fully desync from their direction of motion. Awful design.)
So there you have it, if you really wanted reasons that someone would prefer Paladins over Overwatch, you can have them.
I think Overwatch has potential. I really do. But these are massive stumbling blocks for it and they ruin the ability to enjoy the game for me.
Not to mention that as a result of the movement issues as noted in the last point, fights are inconsistent, and in order to cater to lower skill players' experiences, Blizzard gave low skill requisite 1shots to a large portion of the cast, trivializing combat in order to ignore the significant problems with the feel of the gunplay.
As an aside as to why the video is misleading, comparing individual abilities cross game will *always* be a manipulative tactic. That'd be like me going to League of Legends, taking a bunch of ability footage from random characters, and pairing it to Overwatch characters. I'm sure Overwatch took inspiration from MOBA games and the like, practically certain. But I'm also certain that even though they share identical abilities, that they did not copy those games.
Rather, these things have been staple abilities and icons in ability/magic/etc centric games from the getgo.
Also on the side, people tend to forget that Paladins is not HiRez's only title-- The character designs and ability pools are largely reflected on in Smite, another title under HiRez, and one of the characters (Grover) even hails directly from Smite.
When the characters, game, and goals play entirely differently and then someone tries to sell it to you as the same thing, they're manipulating you. Do some research yourself and you might be surprised.
yes it is
iLaZer cuz it is
that end "I love both games please don't hurt me" i love that xD
I would have expected you to have compared seris' ult to Zaria's
Lancelot of the rake Zarya’s ult*. Russian names are written diffrently
Hello everyone i know I'm late on this fighting. But can we just stop? For everyone thing that JUST because Paladins came out before overwatch, doesn't means they copied paladins. First of all, who the hell told you that? No way overwatch just copied paladins in months.
Overwatch was already being made a long time ago with the name Project Titan. So there is no way overwatch could have copied paladins. Also paladin didn't knew what overwatch was going to do, so how the hell did anyone of them copied each other.
So what if one of the copied? They are both fps games people love to play.
didn't even mention Global Agenda huh?
Wat.
Gapple ツ listen Paladins was original but then they saw how much better a masterpiece like overwatch was doing so they said fuck it we can do that, they then changed the game to make it just like over but not so much that blizzard could take it to a legal point
PSNgamer look i play overwatch, and i only play overwatch. I don't gave a flying fuck how (maybe) paladins copied overwatch. Even if they did, I don't care.
The makers of paladins have said they took multiple things from overwatch because they thought it whould be cool. BUT PALADINS WAS IN DEVELOPMENT FIRST BECAUSE THEY HAD AN OLDER GAME WITH CONSEPTS OF PALADINS WUGADFUGAJWDYUAWHDGAHDJNWBGDHAJWDGYAWDJ:SALT:AGWTYDUKAHWJD
The somra thing should go with skyes ability and not seris's
Who is there also,skye came out before Sombra
Blumenzwiebel HD this Video isn’t there to make paladins look bad it’s just to make a comparison
Who is there agree
Unie don't shit ur pants
Unie lol not defending paladins from the characters they did definitely copy, but you’re wrong here. Paladins releases characters far more frequently then OVW does, once a month like most others hero based games except ovw. Skye was out before sombra was even teased and it took almost a year for her to be released after her first tease. Besides neither game invented the stealth mechanic and the only other similarity between sky and sombra are a similar weapon so saying one copied the other is just being Vein. Now with the likes of Fernando, there’s no excusing that. He has the exact same move set as rein just with a different ult. Paladins did take a lot from overwatch with there early characters but as I said they are releasing characters a lot more often then overwatch and haven’t made a character anything like a over character in a long time, and some of the things in this video that paladins did have even been changed. Regardless paladins is better as the longer time to kill fits better for a team shooter the characters feel more diverse from one another, the maps make it more fair for both teams, and the developers actually make regular balance changes and content additions that keep the game going. Why do you think overwatchs fan base is just slowing falling off while paladins just keeps getting bigger, and the game isn’t even out of open beta yet.
This frustrates me even though I don't play either of the games. Good video
The music in the background just makes it better
I would love to see the look on everyone's face here in the comments section if they googled Global Agenda, kind of makes most of the "Paladins copied Overwatch" stuff here invalid.
Pretty much....Not suprised that most of the people that comment here about Paladins copying OW don't know shit about Global agenda. They were wearing diapers back in 2010....
Fangays battleing about who copied who: I Sleep
Pyro update confirmed: *Real Shit?*
Valve new game announce: *ASCENDED*
a card game: i sleep
Zeal Senpai the video revealing Artifact had people leaning at the edge of their seats, hoping for a new, fun game. As soon as the subtext stated that it was a card game, everyone groaned and lost interest lmao.
tbh at this point i believe pyro update will take a shit-ton of months and end up being MyM 2.0
Zeal Senpai What?
Zeal Senpai I think they kinda copied each other
Zeal Senpai. PYRO UPDATE IS OUT U FOOL
Oohhh lets ignore the OTHER differences like say different skills on different characters, mechanics and overall gameplay...
Yea but he’s not comparing gameplay or skills tho
I mean, its a comparision video, everything that doesn’t appear on both game is obsiously not going to be in the video
"I love both games, please don't hurt me" is the part that actually killed me lmao
Now in 2018:
*Paladins looks at the melee mechanic and uses it for Androxus*
Overwatch: "Bro, stop copying my shit"
*peeks at Sha Lin and uses his ability for Hanzo*
Paladins: "I can't even call it ironic"
Actually, completely outside of Overwatch, people had been asking for a kind of quick melee for a long time (I'm sorry, but Overwatch didn't invent that. Not even close.)
Paladins devs decided against it as a whole, since it would break TTK balance for a lot of characters pretty hard, but it fit with Andro's playstyle, role, and was a better feeling replacement for what was largely considered a useless ability.
I get that you're joking, but a lot of the Overwatch side of things tend to not be able to differentiate between something that's a joke and something that's serious, so context is always helpful.
I was aware at the time of everything you just said and yet I've still made this joke.
Fair enough
*peeks at world of warcraft ability that did that before paladins*
Janfon01 so true
I’m actually glad there’s multiple games like these. People just play what they want and maybe prefer a different experience than others. Like Fortnite vs PUBG, or COD vs Battlefield. It’s what makes gaming awesome!
Silly Billy Thank you for being one of the only non-cancerous comments in this comment section.
Nah nobody is able to like two similar games
Finally.....
Silly Billy it would make gaming awesome If it was a good Game (paladins) but they added no new aspects they just clicked Copy and Paste.(sorry for Bad english)
No, it's cancerous, all people try to copy whatever is popular and/or making money, nobody ever tries to do something new, and when someone tries to do something brand new and succeeds, everyone creates their own clone and deny whatever is said about them copying the other game, shameful
“Corporate wants you to find the difference between these two games.”
*”They’re the same game.”*
It's crazy to come back and see this vid, and compare them to present day, and see how much they branched
Yeah its crazy how 98% in these comments are stupid af thinking paladins its just a copy
Ik like they both r hero shooter's but they got so much different things than the other, card system loadouts, mounts, skins that change appearance and voices, like there different
Paladins improved while Overwatch became Overwatch 2 and absolutely tanked lmao
although paladins was in beta before overwatch was, paladins changed it's game structure, mechanics and characters resembling a bit more like overwatch after it was released.
*a bit?*
Except it didn't. The mechanics didn't change. The rocket launcher guy was from Hirez's old game/IP tribes, which Pharah is apparently inspired by in the Wiki. None of the characters were "changed." The old game mode is coming back, it sucked back then.
Fahim Rahman thank you
Fahim Rahman but the newer characters paladins is releasing steal elements from existing overwatch characters. For example far after overwatch was released Hi Rez put out Maeve (Genji) and Torvald (Symmetra with Torbjorn's name)
So you are saying that maeve (throwing daggers and a dash) resembles genji... BECAUSE DASHES ARE RARE IN VIDEO GAMES. And except the beam there is 0 fucking simmilarities with torvald and symmetra like wtf.
And if X has to copy Z in this situation, OW definetely ripped off skye with the entire design, weapon and abilities... A purple assasin that can turn invisible and has a low damage/high firerate weapon....
And i just can't XD... Copied torbjorn's name XD. 3 first letters and it's a copy XD
This is the toxic video internet needs
Orlogskapten PlebTheLongHair Some juicy as video that Will make people more salty about it
Hell yeah fantastic
Orlogskapten PlebTheLongHair but it isn't toxic xD
Orlogskapten PlebTheLongHair i like your picture
Orlogskapten PlebTheLongHair Oh yes I'm beyond certain they'll love it.
One thing I think Paladins does better than Overwatch is their supports. After being a Mercy main for a while and being nerfed 13 times, I discoved Furia which is a support but she feels impactful. The supports in Paladins feels like you are impactful and not just a heal bot. Both are team based games but I feel like in OW the supports are too reliant on the team, while in Paladins I can do a ton of damage, keep my team up, and feel like I'm doing something which feels awesome and like a hero. Although I just recently downloading the game. Any advice for it ? :)
Furia is badass
If you play Zenyatta or Ana it is very easy to get impact. Watch JJonak or Jehong
Supports on Ow are great too, watch Moira, Nice damage and nice Healing, Zenyatas is very Power Full with his orb and Brigite is good too on short distances
At least for some cases, I can give you that. Have you tried Mal'Damba yet? He heals, but he also flings snakes at people.
Maldamba is probably the best if you know how to use him well. He can deal tons of damage and keep allies alive easily. Same goes for Grover.
WHY DO I FIND THE MUSIC SELECTION FOR THIS VIDEO FUNNY?
Meh...i play OW and i dont see this is problem to me...just came here to read comments about fanboys that really piss off...i want likes btw :)
Just For Fun I
Just For Fun same
Regardless someone's work was clearly copied and not credited for it.
If I worked on Overwatch I would be livid seeing people clearly copy my work for their own gain
I play both games 😋
Pfffft only noobs play these games *plays minesweeper on 1990's computer*
*Realized that I did copy someone and I feel stupid*
Mr Habanero you copied someone’s comment and changed it a little
Its ya boi Andrew Jackson i saw that too
I like copying people to sometimes.
JOtaro??
Trevion Oles but isn't paladins free?
Expected this video to be 30mins long
You vs. The guy she told you not to worry about.
I like to call androxus McReaper
Bioberserkr Gaming its like saying m'lady😂😂😂
Moonlight Destiny you know what the nickname is referring to though?
Double McReaper with extra cheese
That’s a muselk reference
these two characters have a lot in common, but ....
Can you imagine the merger between the two?
I like both games so I am just going to watch the incoming fight *gets the popcorn*
I remember in my primary school in assembly they had this music on all the time
Paladins CEO said they took inspiration from tf2 and a game his studio HiRez created 10 years ago.
I knew there were going to be a fight in the comment section
SUPER Panda I came here just for that
Are you kidding me guys Super Mario 4000 is obvisously better..
Of Course it is. Classic games are way better anyway. Nowadays it's all unoriginal and repetetive.
The best game is minesweeper. Some say no one has completed it yet
Bartek Juszczynski minesweepers easy
KNACK2 BABYYYYYYYYY
Hey you play super Mario 4000 I need help I'm on last stage and bowza X keeps hooking me into the pit of mariOs I tried V.R method and tried the controller glitch (where you spin the controller in a circle) and can't beat bowza X.
Ok ok a lot were valid comparisons, but there were also a lot where it was stretching it to call it anything alike
Nice inspiration
OW fans keep bashing Paladin fans, and paladin fans keep fighting back, it's like wash rinse repeat but instead, it's like a drama movie for all of the TF2 fans that are just like :/ ~meh
I play both overwatch and tf2, never really got into Paladins, but I'm planning on getting it in my schedule once I'm done binge watching anime and nonstop playing a few games that are still in my wait list. Seems pretty fun though.
(That moment when you like and reply to your own comment in hopes to get it started)
The Creative Angel I've played paladins and overwatch but never got into paladins, Tf2 looks fun tho might have to try it out sometime
The Creative Angel Ow fans: Ur game ripped of our game in every way! We have everything better!! Paladins fans: we have more characters, have a free to play game and has cool devs!
Tf2 fans: Uhm... What are we even watching at at this point...
Random Username Exactly
Love both games too, but just a make sure, Lex and Reaper both have dual wielding guns, but Lex has long range, reaper needs short range shotguns
nope reaper have long range too but he dont deal that much deamage
true
Yeah this was the only comparison that didnt make sense to me. Dual wielding accurate pistols vs heavy spread shotguns arent exactly related
BUT! the animation is the same, so it must be a rip-off
it isnt the same, the animation play style is similar, and that could go for many games as well,BUT, the overall character and setting style is far different, Overwatch has a futuristic earth kind of style, but Paladins gives a fantasy style, also the move sets seem similar but paladins has art for every ability
It's like he wants to start another world war
Imagine a vs game between these two