Red Dead Redemption 1&2 - The Complete Story Summary

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    This film tells the story of Red Dead Redemption 1&2 in Chronological order, while breathing insight into the meaning behind it. I have carefully weaved the story around a central thread and that is the break down of the Dutch Van Der Linde Gang.
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    Red Dead Redemption 2 is a Western-themed action-adventure game set in an open world environment. The game centers on Arthur Morgan, an outlaw and a member of the Van der Linde gang in 1899, in the waning years of the American Old West and extinction of the age of outlaws and gunslingers. The player controls Morgan from a third-person perspective. The game features both single-player and online multiplayer components. Among returning characters are John Marston and Dutch Van der Linde, the protagonist and an antagonist from the previous game respectively.
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  • @ThePatientWolf
    @ThePatientWolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +417

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    • @JoseHernandez-pd5qw
      @JoseHernandez-pd5qw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Micha bell"

    • @ghostout7881
      @ghostout7881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bro Cool stuff I sub bro

    • @BlueisNotaWarmColour
      @BlueisNotaWarmColour 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's it like being Michael Caine's younger clone?

    • @tikkidaddy
      @tikkidaddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is the only video game I've seen in almost 60 years that put a tear in my eye. Absolutely stunning

    • @oussamabouyarmane2166
      @oussamabouyarmane2166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found a gem thank you red dead

  • @DavidJDiehl
    @DavidJDiehl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10103

    I cried the most when my horse died. When Arthur went back and said "thank you" as our horse passed away nearly killed me. I had the same horse for the whole game. How did I cry over a virtual horse? This game is something else man.

    • @renzbandala3323
      @renzbandala3323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +706

      Same. I took care of my horse, feeding her every after a long ride, brushing her every time she gets the slightest of dirt on her. I even verbally apologize whenever I'm not paying attention to the road and accidentally ram her into one of the trees... When Arthur took his time thanking her despite the wild gunfight behind his back, it really broke me into tears. R.I.P Shadowfax (My Horse)

    • @Heelo_0
      @Heelo_0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      Trust me, my girl isn't a virtual horse :(
      She's my most loyal friend in rdr2

    • @hassetjifrebro8222
      @hassetjifrebro8222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      I was so taken aback by the veterans story. I used Buell all through chapter 6 and it broke me that it died.

    • @Heelo_0
      @Heelo_0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Austin Fuck you who's yall and what do yk bout me?
      What even is the point of this comment

    • @Naz-uh6dg
      @Naz-uh6dg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Yeahh, my buell

  • @jodagreen5086
    @jodagreen5086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11511

    Honestly I'm ready for this to be made into a movie but will never be able to capture the same depth these two games did. A great story

    • @ocg6999
      @ocg6999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +628

      books would make more sense

    • @paddythefatty5872
      @paddythefatty5872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +559

      Tv show

    • @1buckindimes509
      @1buckindimes509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +483

      I think a show would be better

    • @someretardontheinternet
      @someretardontheinternet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

      Yeah but if we look back in the past and some as of recently, movies based off of video games are horrible and it's the same vice versa

    • @ocg6999
      @ocg6999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      @@someretardontheinternet which is why tv show or book would make more sense

  • @MulletMutent
    @MulletMutent ปีที่แล้ว +1166

    The fear and sadness in Arthur’s voice as he yells, “Dutch!” In the last mission was heartbreaking.

    • @49.2k
      @49.2k 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Oh Dutch… he’s a rat

    • @jalenikezeue4114
      @jalenikezeue4114 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I Hate Dutch and micah For what They did to the gang And Arthur

    • @dutch_rblx
      @dutch_rblx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You let him damn us all…

    • @Whatdoyouwant904
      @Whatdoyouwant904 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jalenikezeue4114I wanted to go get Arthur’s get back immediately 😂😂

  • @gmodpies7382
    @gmodpies7382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1058

    I know I'm late, but I realized something. The first time Jack meets Agent Ross, Jack was fishing with Arthur. The end of RDR 1, Jack meets Ross for the last time, after Ross was done fishing. Neat little detail
    Edit: Hunting instead of fishing, still by the river

    • @BunnyQueen97
      @BunnyQueen97 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      That’s fantastic, totally didn’t notice either

    • @johnnybravo5969
      @johnnybravo5969 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Ross was hunting for a ducks, the only detail is they met near river in both situations (first/last)

    • @kosmas173
      @kosmas173 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He wasn't fishing, he was hunting ducks.

    • @gmodpies7382
      @gmodpies7382 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnnybravo5969 Yeah I misremembered, it was about a year when I wrote that

    • @memeshort7189
      @memeshort7189 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It wasn't even a river! It was Lake Don Julio

  • @thevexbelowall
    @thevexbelowall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2479

    Micah:kills Grimshaw
    Dutch:wHoM aMoGnSt YoU iS wItH mE aNd WhO iS bEtRaYiNg Me?

    • @andrewwebb3248
      @andrewwebb3248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +199

      I know it's for gameplay reasons to keep RDR1 intact but how the hell do you side with Dutch when John comes walking back up after being "killed".

    • @anathemise
      @anathemise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      sheesh dabadyyyy

    • @thevexbelowall
      @thevexbelowall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@anathemise LET'S GOOOO , Yeah Yeah, Im the real dababy, give me your credit card info so I can make a new song featuring you, Yeah Yeah

    • @Mr-Brick-Battler
      @Mr-Brick-Battler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hectorgerardo9297 lol

    • @micahbell4341
      @micahbell4341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stolen comment

  • @Nunya310
    @Nunya310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2105

    Arthur running around with 7600$ in his pockets...

    • @RequisiteFunction
      @RequisiteFunction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Yeah in a time when a new car was $800

    • @privateerbouncher9622
      @privateerbouncher9622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Yeah cuz the car was definitely around in 1899..

    • @mihailojovicevic5576
      @mihailojovicevic5576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      @@privateerbouncher9622 It was actually invented in 1870-1880s I believe

    • @RequisiteFunction
      @RequisiteFunction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@privateerbouncher9622 it was around soon enough. By the time of rdr1, they had already become common sights

    • @MichaelMartin-rw5fi
      @MichaelMartin-rw5fi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol.

  • @cryzz0n
    @cryzz0n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +451

    I'm glad that Charles got out of the life, because imagine if John had to hunt him down along with Bill and Javier. I understand that Charles wasn't thought of at the time, but for a moment, imagine how sad it would be to have to kill Charles for the government to save John's family...

    • @eriktatos
      @eriktatos ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Morale of the story…when in doubt move to Canada 🍁

    • @lordesp1721
      @lordesp1721 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pretty sure John was only forced to hunt down bill, Javier and dutch specifically because they were still outlaws and causing issues for the locals and the government. Charles had no intention of doing any of these things so probably wouldn't have been hunted down

    • @user-jt1js5mr3f
      @user-jt1js5mr3f ปีที่แล้ว +27

      If there's anyone John would refuse to kill, I feel like it's Charles

    • @Maddog-xc2zv
      @Maddog-xc2zv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      And Sadie, it would also be an horror watching a woman who suffered so much, most likely saw her husband get murdered, and still she rose as a new women. Even if fuelled by anger and revenge desire, she was friend of her friends. To Arthur, to John, to Abigail who helped her grieving, also having respect for Uncle, Charles and Jack although she had not a lot of interactions with him that we can see. Rain Falls surely died an old man, sad with life, but with some degree of dementia that didn't allow him to remind his past and his life as we would like if he had a choice; Tilly got married with a lawyer and both had at least a baby girl; I'm pretty sure Tilly somehow also got hands of some of that Blackwater money; Trelawny had a family (or more) of his own, reason why he had short reigns in the gang and was allowed to disappear during long periods. Of all the survivors of the Van der Linde gang, Sadie and Charles would be imo those with more chances to relapse to the outlaw life without help of some kind of emotional walls to support them and keep them on the path to their redemption. Jack is a mistery, but it's probably right he stop his lawless life when he shot Ross, the man reponsible for his father death and who knows the accelartion of Abigails death, surely mentaly destroyed after living for some years her dream of an honest life. Rockstar rulled with RDR1 and 2, manly 2 for because is set in time before RDR1 and still developers were able not to screw RDR storyline, on the opposite, they made an art piece with RDR2 characters development and in depth, and gave us the pleasure to play likely with the better character I've ever seen in a game. Great video, only saw it 3 years after being posted but it was really worth it and made want to play RDR2 again; I've been reading and watching some stuff that points to a RDR1 remake or remaster; it would be pretty great to play it also again but with improved features. Someone in the comments said this post, with all the story telling and top notch editing, that it really seemed a documentary. I totaly agree with that person. Cheers!

    • @ShitkidOfJamrock
      @ShitkidOfJamrock 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Oh god
      Charles was my favorite character just after Arthur. Basically the most morally good person of the gang. I'd be destroyed if he died in 2
      I honestly hope he's the next main character of red dead redemption, if there's ever a third installment. He could fill out some more of the before and after of the Van Der Linde gang

  • @beanbag3433
    @beanbag3433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +659

    I don't know which I want most for the next game:
    1) The events after RDR 1 exploring what happened to Jack
    2) Another prequel going even further back in time to before the Blackwater heist
    3) A sequel about Sadie and her adventures in South America

    • @syllvanis_
      @syllvanis_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      I want another prequel, because there's nowhere to go beyond where rdr1 left Jack. And I feel that Sadie's adventures would be better as a spin-off series.

    • @BeanBag343
      @BeanBag343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@syllvanis_ yeah, that's how I'm starting to feel too. I only hope they finally let us see the Blackwater heist

    • @jakethasnake871
      @jakethasnake871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      We cant go to much past rdr1 anyways, because then were in LA Noire

    • @jalen3590
      @jalen3590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jakethasnake871 false. That takes place in the late 1940's on the east coast

    • @bf5496
      @bf5496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@syllvanis_
      Well it could go either way
      1-events after rdr1
      In fact I have high hopes to see the story of jack and the new world and there is small chance that he could meet Issac (Arthur son) assuming he is alive since Arthur said that he saw 2 crosses. maybe he couldn’t recognise their faces
      now that would be sick the only con is that they cant go after that timeline
      2-prequel could work dutch hosea has great backstory so anyway we have to wait for the next game :D

  • @loficat4993
    @loficat4993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3146

    I love that the lore isn't spoon fed to you by a codex, and you can never tell who is lying to you.

    • @forehandburrito
      @forehandburrito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Try dark souls

    • @taylorkeller363
      @taylorkeller363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Liquid Snake: " Am I a joke to you?"

    • @forehandburrito
      @forehandburrito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@taylorkeller363 can you shut up?

    • @TheOfficialRamVenkatakrishnan
      @TheOfficialRamVenkatakrishnan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@taylorkeller363 if you like MGS, please watch “Some Ordinary Gamers”s video on Metal gear solid 4, titled “MGS IV is a pretty good game” and is 4 hours long

    • @h2owater27
      @h2owater27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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  • @senz8152
    @senz8152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6935

    3 things to appreciate about this video:
    1. Great detail of the story of both games
    2. The fantastic editing
    3. This is pretty much a FREE documentary

    • @Nice-sm5hr
      @Nice-sm5hr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Agree it’s great and very well made

    • @dire_wolfheart
      @dire_wolfheart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      4: They spelt Micah wrong because he doesn't deserve his name to be written properly.

    • @thedudewiththeface
      @thedudewiththeface 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      50:42 is an example of fantastic editing.

    • @senz8152
      @senz8152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@thedudewiththeface god damn you

    • @thedudewiththeface
      @thedudewiththeface 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@senz8152 thank you

  • @tylerhalloran9158
    @tylerhalloran9158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    I love the absolute heartbreak in arthurs voice when he says "you ran away"
    Currently replaying RDR2 and the conversation he has with Arthur in the camp actually says alot about his character.
    He even goes as far to say that Arthur will betray him because he's the type too. Ironic as hell

    • @anthonyfernandez82
      @anthonyfernandez82 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Not to mention the look he gives dutch after saying it.... He knew who Dutch truly was in that moment

    • @anthonyfernandez82
      @anthonyfernandez82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @bastiat Dutch is a narcissist. It's as clear as day

    • @Ghost_of_Cantinas
      @Ghost_of_Cantinas ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Dutch was very manipulative and constantly used how he saved Arthur and took him in, as a kid, against Arthur whenever he questioned his decisions.

    • @Ghost_of_Cantinas
      @Ghost_of_Cantinas ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @bastiat I never stated he was evil...I stated he was manipulative, which he was. Dutch is a very complex character, as they all are. You can see in RDR2 how he struggles within himself over what he once stood for and what he is becoming. That doesn't change that he was manipulative with his words and often utilized others to push his own self-interest. I'm sure he cared for many in the camp, but towards the end he began putting himself over everyone else and Micah was there to fan the flame after Hosea passed away.

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Actually when Dutch says “same as you I suppose,” I believed his intention was to kill Micah as well but to pick his moment instead of go in guns blazing like we did.

    • @erinlorca1240
      @erinlorca1240 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's how I took it also.

  • @popculturevictim7789
    @popculturevictim7789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1751

    It took me a while to realize that by the time Arthur and John left, everyone that would’ve joined them was either dead or had left before them. Hosea, Sean, Lenny, and Keiran would have joined them if they hadn’t died, and Pearson, Trelawney, Reverend Swanson, and Karen would have joined them if they hadn’t left. It’s great writing and forethought like this that makes this game so special.

    • @adambess4909
      @adambess4909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Would Pearson and Sean though? I thought Sean was more morally equivalent to Javier, who sided with Dutch and Micah.

    • @_gggoomba6327
      @_gggoomba6327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +228

      @@adambess4909 not really Sean looked up to Arthur plus he hated Micah and would've believed that Micah was the rat and would've Join Arthur, I mean even Dutch said Sean was younger Arthur

    • @Ssm12212
      @Ssm12212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You’re right but hosea will 100% go with Dutch

    • @AstarionWifey
      @AstarionWifey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      @@Ssm12212 hell nah Hosea saw how the gang life wasn’t going to last long even before it happened
      So he would’ve sided with John and Arthur

    • @darkwolf6879
      @darkwolf6879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      @@Ssm12212 not in the slightest my dude. Hosea definitely knew from right and straight up madness. He was the Uncle Iron of the gang. He would joined Arthur knowing how far Dutch has fallen.

  • @RaynDrop_
    @RaynDrop_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1822

    I honestly loved Sean MacGuire, his death genuinely upset me. He died like an offscreen no name side character and that killed me

    • @shinyhunterCF
      @shinyhunterCF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Sorry to be that one person but it is macguire

    • @zackdoom
      @zackdoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I died of shock when man got hit :( it was powerful

    • @namethefifth7315
      @namethefifth7315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      A lot of the deaths were kind of like that like lenny and gimshaw

    • @alansaldana3429
      @alansaldana3429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shinyhunterCF he said that dummy

    • @sour_crust5803
      @sour_crust5803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      That’s the whole point of his death. You can’t process the weight of what just happened until later.

  • @sammorton9484
    @sammorton9484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    This is a really good summation of the full story but I’m surprised in these kinds of videos, no one ever points out the moment after the trolley station heist, when Dutch receives a head injury when the trolley crashes.
    Until that point he would treat doubts with a level of hope and optimism, but after was much more irritable, and quick to anger. Immediately following it, during their escape I’m pretty sure it’s the first time Dutch reacts with anger and actively has a go at Arthur for having even the gall to criticise him.
    Supposedly something similar happened to Henry VIII after a jousting accident, and the head injury may have caused some brain damage which helped facilitate his descent into tyranny.
    The amount of focus given to it at the time in the game always led me to believe that this was major factor in Dutch’s descent too.

    • @Tom-V
      @Tom-V 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think I commented on one of Markipliers videos but yes no one mentions the head injury.

    • @Tom-V
      @Tom-V 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Also Molly snitching, not everyone mentions, didn't help.

    • @yeabih5607
      @yeabih5607 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      By that point in the game everything is going downhill . Thats what made him start being irrational, not really a head injury lol . He wouldbe neber stood up at that moment if he sustained a TBI that caused that type thing . He began thinking crazy cuz HIS DECISIONS WERE ALL WRONG and leading to their downfall

    • @Uno-vj2os
      @Uno-vj2os 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it’s cause people aren’t dumb enough to think getting hit in the head changes how he thinks lol the injury had nothing to do with his unraveling

    • @danielacanva9824
      @danielacanva9824 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@Uno-vj2os except it has been proven that brain injury survivors may have difficulties managing their anger, which can result in irritability or aggressive behaviour. This can include shouting, swearing, using threatening language or being physically aggressive or violent.. but look at you calling people dumb

  • @justind4863
    @justind4863 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Arthur was such a likable character. I felt terrible after his death and almost robbed of enjoying the remainder of the game.

  • @nugsymalone1247
    @nugsymalone1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1973

    My great, great, great, grandfather died in 1899 at the age of 59. He wrote in journals every day since he was 19 up until a month before his death. I've been reading the journals lately, has newspaper clippings and other stuff in it. Pretty cool stuff. His relatives came from Germany in 1730's and set up shop in southeast PA.

    • @MASTEROFEVIL
      @MASTEROFEVIL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Neat

    • @Patricksargentmusic
      @Patricksargentmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@MASTEROFEVIL niiiicee

    • @mr.crowley64
      @mr.crowley64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

      have you considered looking to get it published or something? seems like a interesting prospective.

    • @superthicc7657
      @superthicc7657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      That’s so cool! It must feel like a real trip back in time reading through it all. It almost feels like your GG Grandfather had a lot of foresight into the future, knowing that relatives of the future would likely want to know what his time was like.

    • @nugsymalone1247
      @nugsymalone1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hewhotellsastory I've seen that movie like 20 times, I love it. Man with a harmonica :) I very much enjoy ennio morricone

  • @Snabelskorna
    @Snabelskorna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3774

    If the ending of RDR2 would be faded out, then fade in with "Four years later" and into a remastered version of RDR, I could die happy.

    • @maxhydekyle2425
      @maxhydekyle2425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +386

      I wanted an RDR1 remaster until the recent GTA Trilogy remastering that was a complete debacle.

    • @Snabelskorna
      @Snabelskorna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@maxhydekyle2425 I haven’t seen that yet; is it really that bad?

    • @jeeissena6389
      @jeeissena6389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      @@Snabelskorna yes, yes it is

    • @kenneth465
      @kenneth465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Snabelskorna yeah, lol! 😂

    • @shawnjames3242
      @shawnjames3242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      @@Snabelskorna sadly yes. Rockstars outsourced the job to another company, and well, its baf

  • @charlsssoooo
    @charlsssoooo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    RDR2 is probably the best game of all times in my book. Great work summarizing the story, loved reliving it .

  • @radu19d
    @radu19d ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Sadly I am sure we won’t see a story this good in future games. Amazing video.

  • @tjtaco5156
    @tjtaco5156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +762

    Out of all the deaths (excluding Arthur and John) for some reason Lenny hurt the most I loved that kid

    • @GlennDavey
      @GlennDavey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Yeah a bit more with him would have been good but just would have made it even harder ...

    • @cokelover45
      @cokelover45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Hosea Mathews, MISS GRIMSHAW!?!?!

    • @tjtaco5156
      @tjtaco5156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@cokelover45 ya man I know those were painful to but I kinda knew they were gonna die just based on how close they were to everyone Lenny didn’t need to die

    • @randiwilliams8360
      @randiwilliams8360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed, he was a good kid

    • @AtE1600
      @AtE1600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@cokelover45 ehhhh grimshaw I didn’t really care about much. Hosea, Lenny and Sean’s, deaths were all very painful because it came from betrayal and dutches mistakes. Grimshaw was just shot by Micah randomly and felt like a really unnecessary death in terms of impact and meaning.

  • @Theevil6ify
    @Theevil6ify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1555

    What the?! I never realized it was Downes who stopped Arthur and Tommy's fight before.

    • @diobrando7774
      @diobrando7774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +210

      Yeah there even is an interaction with him before you get debt from him. And Thomas Downes was trying to get money for homeless and sick children. Just like arthur helped everyone with TB

    • @Getcakedieyoung23
      @Getcakedieyoung23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Me too
      Maybe the valentine curse was just Mr. Downes infecting everyone 😂

    • @huskybraines1459
      @huskybraines1459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I knew he was important but I did not know why

    • @lerlmibea4792
      @lerlmibea4792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I didnt know he gave Arthur TB

    • @oui2611
      @oui2611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      that moment is very weird with the eerie music that accompanies it

  • @the_monstah6378
    @the_monstah6378 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    One thing I must point out. Dutch wasn’t partnered with Micah in the epilogue and he wasn’t there for the money. I think this can be proven by one single line of dialogue. Its the line that Dutch says to John.
    “ Same as you….I suppose “.
    John, Sadie, and Charles went up that mountain to kill Micah, to put an end to all this, and most of all, to get revenge for their beloved friend and brother Arthur. In their minds, Micah prob killed Arthur because all they saw was Micah survive and Arthur didn’t. So they most definitely presumed that by killing Micah, it would serve some sense of revenge. They never went up there for the money, that was never the intent. By Dutch saying “ same as you….I suppose “. I think that at the moment of Arthur’s death, he didn’t just turn his back on his mistakes, or the gang, or Arthur. He also turned his back on Micah and all the money as well. At that point, he had a moment of clarity which can be seen when Arthur said “ I gave you all I had….i did “ and all he could mutter in response was “ I- “. In that moment, looking down at his protege, his son, dying by his feet, he realized. He realized he was wrong, Arthur never betrayed him and only cared about his best interest, and he realized that Micah was behind all of this.
    My guess is that some time after Arthur’s death, Dutch went on to live a life of solitude until hearing of Micah’s whereabouts just like Sadie. To which he ventured up the mountain to kill him. Maybe in his mind, killing Micah would give some type of penance or he would be forgiven, maybe it would give him peace. Of course, at the sight of Dutch, Micah is most pleased. I can assume so because he wanted him to join him so badly when they fled and was angry when he turned his back. This is what ultimately allowed Dutch to deceive Micah and in his words “ play him like a fiddle “, which can be seen after he shoots him and he responds with “ your shoot me- “. But at this moment in his life, seeing John and Sadie, and realizing he really did fail them, Dutch proceeds down the mountain without the money. He leaves, now realizing that the death of Micah served him nothing, and he will forever be tormented by the mistakes of his past. Which is what ultimately causes him to be so mentally unhinged in the first game. In the end, he kills himself, with John by his side once more. Any dream of living someplace else is now gone. The west might be forgotten, but Dutch never was, and neither was his demons. In the end, his only hope of getting away was to just give it all up, which is exactly what he did. Dutch is a special case in media because even though he messed up so many times, I can never see him as a run true villain. In my eyes, he will always be just a broken man, a man running from his pain. A man who couldn’t deal with the deaths of his closest comrades, the people he considered family. And a man who became a slave to the very thing he was trying to run from all those years before.

  • @maytriarc1956
    @maytriarc1956 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    To this day, I cry when Arthur hands his hat to John, then at the death of Arthur’s horse, then Arthur himself. Can’t help it now and I hope never will. RDR2 is the best game I ever played, and this video the best rendition of the storyline. Bravo.

  • @joshhiggins2802
    @joshhiggins2802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +933

    The way they slowly planned the amazing ending throughout both games is just amazing with things like killing Sean and Lenny who would’ve joined Arthur’s side and hosea could’ve stopped Dutch from going mad

    • @comodojoe59
      @comodojoe59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I resent laying $60 for a game but I can see where the money went with this series

    • @NascarFan-hi4et
      @NascarFan-hi4et 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The only game I will buy brand new would be games in this series because god damit it is 100% gonna be worth it

    • @DM-yi7bu
      @DM-yi7bu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@comodojoe59 literally just the standard price of a game

    • @anxiousoutlaw1414
      @anxiousoutlaw1414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DM-yi7bu Pirates can't afford that cause they're all unemployed, basement dwelling incels.

    • @niclasjohansson5992
      @niclasjohansson5992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anxiousoutlaw1414 harsh. Wouldn't incels be the one who would value games higher?

  • @thelegend_doggo1062
    @thelegend_doggo1062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1375

    I never realised that as the game progresses, and Dutch starts to lose his way, his outfit actually starts to deteriorate.

    • @haywoodj
      @haywoodj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +224

      In the epilogue he looked like evil Santa Claus

    • @Bearssuperfan
      @Bearssuperfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@haywoodj Right! From the Santa Clause 2 with Tim Allen! I could not get it out of my head, especially with the snowy atmosphere

    • @theunknownuser9609
      @theunknownuser9609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@haywoodj More like depressed Santa

    • @omni0414
      @omni0414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i dont see the differences ;-;

    • @haywoodj
      @haywoodj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@theunknownuser9609you're right. My mans Dutch lost everything. The way after he helped John kill Micah & walked past John looking like "You happy now?" was actually quite chilling.

  • @updastorm685
    @updastorm685 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Fun fact: during the small walk in a pretty town mission aka seans death, Micah can be seen looking at the shooter before sean is shot

    • @Twisterio2
      @Twisterio2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      that god damn RAT

    • @TheBatmanMonomaniac
      @TheBatmanMonomaniac ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He wasn’t looking at the shooter before he shot Sean he looked up right after he was shot. Micah’s a sharp shooter you’d think he knows where the shot of a gun is fired

    • @updastorm685
      @updastorm685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheBatmanMonomaniac no as they are walking during the cinematic micah looks up around 1-3 seconds before sean says something don't feel right?

    • @TheBatmanMonomaniac
      @TheBatmanMonomaniac ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@updastorm685 well maybe the fact someone was out of place. I agree Micah was a scumbag but I don’t think everything bad was because of him.

  • @brendant93
    @brendant93 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    People forget how good the story was in the first game too. You depicted it perfectly. Top class

  • @jtothey1993
    @jtothey1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +545

    "I've got a plan" - words before a disaster

    • @datnigheh6549
      @datnigheh6549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      1899 version of "hold my beer"

    • @reddeadfan-jz7sx
      @reddeadfan-jz7sx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Albert Einstein be like: 😛

    • @drake-rq9nn
      @drake-rq9nn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Famous last words

    • @firebaby_oof_6937
      @firebaby_oof_6937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everyone’s got a plan before they get hit

  • @dannym631
    @dannym631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +917

    Rdr1 and Rdr2 are the best games I've ever played. The only games that brought tears to my eyes.

    • @igotrickrolled5936
      @igotrickrolled5936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DarkLight-sz1vp lol that’s in like 5 more yrs

    • @ig2965
      @ig2965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@igotrickrolled5936 5 years? Try 10 more

    • @Ryan10865
      @Ryan10865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@DarkLight-sz1vp sadly, there won’t be anymore RDRs. But if there was, I would have to guess that you play as Jack Marston.

    • @mynames7664
      @mynames7664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Ryan10865 pretty sure thats not true

    • @ayo-robin213
      @ayo-robin213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Ryan10865 nah u would prolly play as young Arthur

  • @d.j.savick
    @d.j.savick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It killed me when Hosea died. He was the glue holding everyone together. I think that is the moment when Dutch went wrong.

    • @haywoodj
      @haywoodj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hosea was like the frontal lobe of the brain that forces you to use common-sense & Dutch was the passion and the ideas of the brain.
      Arthur was the backbone & John was the heart.
      And then Sadie & Charles became the two lungs of the gang who were versatile and breathed life into the game & tried to breathe life into Arthur when things became dark.

  • @fazzfazz1040
    @fazzfazz1040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So sad it took me two whole years to find you and your story telling!!! Pure beauty in your work and your voiceovers are perfect, straight to the point

  • @wizzaroot
    @wizzaroot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +722

    Dutch in RDR2: THEY. WONT. CATCH. ME.
    And they never. did. Dutch took his own life. What an amazing and complex villain. god I love this whole story

    • @Sasasala386
      @Sasasala386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Honestly I think he's not a villain. The Villain to me is and will always be Micah, who poisoned Dutch's mind since the beginning of the game. Dutch is just a poor soul that was lost in his own ego.

    • @shinyhunterCF
      @shinyhunterCF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Sasasala386 i agree

    • @santi_super_stunts2573
      @santi_super_stunts2573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Sasasala386 Micah wasn’t there when he strangled a women in guarma. Nuff said

    • @BodyBag_Gaming
      @BodyBag_Gaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Sasasala386 I agree. Not so much a villain, but an anti-hero I suppose. He had the same hopes and dreams that rest of the gang had. But had such an ego and quite the narcissist. Was easily poisoned by Micah.

    • @fangedcreature
      @fangedcreature 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@santi_super_stunts2573 Almost everyone in the group has killed someone who didn't deserve it so this is a dumb point. None of these people are "good" in the traditional sense, just individuals surviving a harsh world against the bad and the downright ugly. To discredit Dutch as a villain because of killing that girl or his betrayal in the end shows you really didn't pay attention to the story.

  • @hamishmackenzie2018
    @hamishmackenzie2018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +961

    I played Read Dead 2 and immediately after played red dead 1 again, after watching John die I straight away played the Stranger mission of Jack's revenge the credits brought me to tiers, I was so sad to see the saga end, the storyline is phenomenal, unforgetable experience, like reading a book through a game 👌

    • @UlfhednarAxe
      @UlfhednarAxe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      RDR 1 credits hit hard, the end of arther and johns story it’s a bittersweet ending with jack outliving everyone

    • @UnknownUnknown-hg7xg
      @UnknownUnknown-hg7xg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@UlfhednarAxe As it should, Jack was the future of the gang, and the gang lives on in him.

    • @memehubz8238
      @memehubz8238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      There's a second ending where John doesn't die instead of walking out the front run through the back where abigail and Jack Ride off it comes up with a cut scene where John runs off and the army just give up

    • @DarkLight-sz1vp
      @DarkLight-sz1vp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Not over yet, still Rdr3.

    • @kasketsnslugs4523
      @kasketsnslugs4523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@memehubz8238 the lies though smh

  • @chirripitiflauticoid
    @chirripitiflauticoid 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wow. Just WOW.
    What a cinematic summary, what a plot, without releasing too much of the conversations and scenes, what a narrator's voice.
    Congrats for the beautiful work mate, brilliant planing and editing.

  • @rainygamedays5873
    @rainygamedays5873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've been looking for so many single videos of different creators... Only to find you! Your whole style is exactly what I'm looking for in every video, dude you're amazing and so well informed/eloquently spoken as well! Subscribed and now binging ALL your videos today while I clean

  • @bigpj3423
    @bigpj3423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3707

    Honestly if Arthur Never died he and Micah would be like Colm and Dutch

    • @stfutoast
      @stfutoast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +694

      i agree except if arthur lived he wouldn’t have gone and started a gang. he most likely would have settled down with the marstons or charlotte balfour

    • @thestrangeman8696
      @thestrangeman8696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      The events that took place might still happen but with Arthur. Arthur and the marstons would go to the ucon and come back in 1907, went to prohnhorn ranch, and set up at beaches hope and killed Micah . But in 1907 Arthur would be 44 years old and back then that was very old so he might be dead by 1911

    • @andrewhadden3052
      @andrewhadden3052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      well micah also died lol

    • @randomperson8199
      @randomperson8199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      He probably would start his on gang with John and his family and Sadie and Charles also miss Grimshaw and Lenny if they wasn’t dead

    • @outlawteddy9922
      @outlawteddy9922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@stfutoast Or Arthur would have gotten back with Mary Linton

  • @2Trundle
    @2Trundle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    Everybody gangsta till “Unshaken” starts playing.

  • @nynaroza5012
    @nynaroza5012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is honestly the best game timeline i've ever seen due to the very smooth editing and phrasing

  • @goddamndog
    @goddamndog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You are such a good storyteller man, I already know everything about the games but you kept me reeled in solely from how you presented everything. Instant sub!

  • @iarmandov2
    @iarmandov2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +574

    When Arthur tells Dutch “you keep killing folk, Dutch.” It gave me chills!

    • @gameaddictkhan177
      @gameaddictkhan177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahahahaha

    • @revthescatman137
      @revthescatman137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      “Shall we continue, Arthur?” The one line that legitimately sent shivers down my spine when said that

    • @ninodrhr
      @ninodrhr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and a couple of missions earlier Arthur kills 30 cops in the failed trolley heist mission

    • @ssjkara224
      @ssjkara224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ninodrhr well it was either that or dutch, arthur, and lenny would’ve died. self defense vs just strangling a woman he could’ve easily just knocked out or disarmed. big difference.

    • @MaMastoast
      @MaMastoast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ssjkara224 While there's a difference, it really isn't that big. By the same logic it is self defense to kill the woman once you've assaulted her because she seemed the type to stab if you stopped halfway.
      By robbing places and shooting the guards/police, the gang are not killing in self defense, they are entirely on the offensive and bring the danger upon themselves, that is not self defense, that is just murder.
      It's like breaking into someones room in the middle of the night and then claiming self defense asyou kill them after the person tries to attack you.

  • @gagesmith7323
    @gagesmith7323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1252

    It’s crazy how well they merged and went back to rdr1 to make sure the story lines fit perfectly it’s amazing the amount of small details you find when replaying and noticing how rockstar was able to near perfectly make the games run right along side eachother

    • @shareehocking6294
      @shareehocking6294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Which is why it's such a shame r* don't seem to care for red dead any more.

    • @DodgeThatAttack
      @DodgeThatAttack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@shareehocking6294 the story is over, what else do you want?

    • @samjonas5494
      @samjonas5494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@DodgeThatAttack red dead online

    • @jawdonxtrahero6673
      @jawdonxtrahero6673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@DodgeThatAttack Exactly 😅 I heard rumours that they were gonna make another game and say Arthur didn't die. Even though we watched him die on the mountain or getting stabbed by Micah etc. I would straight up refuse to buy the game if R* tried to milk their audience like that, fucking Marvel Multiverse style, they can sack ma deek. Only thing I kinda wanted or could ask for was how we got from John Buying the farm and getting married to the part in Red Dead 1 when they get off the train, I don't understand 😅

    • @evrythingisayisfactzzlolll6642
      @evrythingisayisfactzzlolll6642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jawdonxtrahero6673 john lived a peaveful life for a couple years, got caught by the pinkertons, moved to some jail and then brought to blackwater for him to kill dutch javier and bill

  • @GlennDavey
    @GlennDavey ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This editing is fricken amazing. The tribute I've wanted to watch, and was editing in my head for years.

  • @steviekaiser9974
    @steviekaiser9974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow. Way to tell the story man. This was honestly an amazing story.

  • @thiccmangoman5833
    @thiccmangoman5833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    As much of a bad idea killing Levitcus was, it did put a smile on my face.

    • @erenyeager3829
      @erenyeager3829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      It gave me so much satisfaction to watch that
      But Micah was ultimate satisfaction. Watching him collapse to the ground dead was just a feeling of fulfilment.

    • @thiccmangoman5833
      @thiccmangoman5833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@erenyeager3829 true

    • @bruschetta7711
      @bruschetta7711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      of all bad things Dutch did in the end, that one was probably the only right one despite being selfish, Levitcus would have probably made everything worse for everyone faster if he didn't die

    • @biggiecheese6425
      @biggiecheese6425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bruschetta7711 No, it put more attention on the area where they were hiding out. In “Our Best Selves” John mentions how Annesburg is crawling with Pinkertons after Cornwall’s death. Dutch was hoping there would be less Pinkertons because of Cornwall’s funding getting cut off.

  • @jiminaterj3845
    @jiminaterj3845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1829

    I remember Arthurs death on my first play through. When he took his hat and put it on one last time. When he rode through the forest with the music and the sunset. The singer saying the words “That’s the way it is”. At this point, I started to weep Uncontrollably. Not crying out of sadness, but because I know that in a few short moments, the man I got to learn, discover, and connected to, would be gone! I thought about all the decisions I made, I thought of the life that He had, everything would be gone. I thought about how Arthur leaving the only family he had ever known. The way that he faced his death like a man. After his death, I locked myself in my room and was lost in my mind for quite a long time.

    • @robrudd8537
      @robrudd8537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      In a way, it makes you enjoy John’s journey that much more. Makes that end even more tragic and sad.

    • @videogamin390
      @videogamin390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      I burst into tears, never been so connected to a game character.

    • @Ozzywozzy
      @Ozzywozzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I feel the same way.

    • @c_a_r_____
      @c_a_r_____ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      So far I've finished it twice and both times I have *CRIED* and I mean *CRIED* the second time though the tears were a little more controllable but the anger was not so controllable. I dont think I have flipped off a video game character (micah by the way) as much as I did this time.

    • @Ozzywozzy
      @Ozzywozzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@c_a_r_____ At least he didn't outright kill Arthur, that would have been too much... My RD2 disc would not survive that.

  • @FuzzyWarthog3469
    @FuzzyWarthog3469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have replayed this game more times than I can count but each time is always new. I love that.

  • @johnyyoya9689
    @johnyyoya9689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There are lots of this kind of video on TH-cam, but this is by far the best one I have seen. Very good work.

  • @probablytrue4753
    @probablytrue4753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +574

    just imagine how different things would’ve turned out if hosea never died, i think hosea was the last thing keeping dutch grounded

    • @jeispace9960
      @jeispace9960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      micah technically killed hosea since he ratted them out to the bank heist

    • @lukethomas1401
      @lukethomas1401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@jeispace9960 think he started ratting on the gang when they just got back from guarma

    • @russian_knight
      @russian_knight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@jeispace9960 if it weren't for Micah all this shit never would have happened

    • @davidlucas4136
      @davidlucas4136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeispace9960 Micah didn’t rat them out until after he and the others returned from Guarma.

  • @mumphlerfumperdink9969
    @mumphlerfumperdink9969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +726

    I find the irony of Ross' death so satisfying. Ross wouldn't let John escape his past, so Jack didnt let Ross escape his.

    • @jeffhardysoul
      @jeffhardysoul ปีที่แล้ว

      r u "the" same Mumphler Fumperdink that walks stupid for the fun of it, has a Goblin pardner name Gary & enjoys putting hands in every spittoon u come across??

    • @anthonyfernandez82
      @anthonyfernandez82 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Enjoy your fishing, kid

    • @liszt646
      @liszt646 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@anthonyfernandez82" Enjoy your last fishing, ya old bastard"

    • @JMB_Knight
      @JMB_Knight ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@anthonyfernandez82 karma right there

    • @luciasardo7728
      @luciasardo7728 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Woow

  • @austinbosley1546
    @austinbosley1546 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can we all just take a second to appreciate rockstar for what they've done and give props to this dude for tying it all together so well unlike most people who just cut and edit everything this dude actually took his time and put work in he definitely gained a subscriber 💯

  • @Tattoosbyjosh1
    @Tattoosbyjosh1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “A moment of harmony in a sea of disorder” damn that line got me, love these videos, definitely gonna be a patreon subscriber and I never do that but you’ve earned it bro 🙏

  • @deettee6794
    @deettee6794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2338

    there was this extremely heart-wrenching moment when they manage to get jack back from angelo bronte.
    john talks to his son while they were riding back to camp and asks whether he was mistreated etc. he realizes that bronte provided more for jack than he ever could, just in that short time.

    • @NEWFIExGAMING
      @NEWFIExGAMING 2 ปีที่แล้ว +395

      The increasing pain in John's voice, as Jack is telling him about all the wonderful things he saw and ate, really got to me.
      This was definitely the moment John realized he needs to get his act together and become the kind of man his son can look up to.

    • @briansheehan5256
      @briansheehan5256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +225

      Especially with Jack calling him "Papa Bronte."

    • @K.114.
      @K.114. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@NEWFIExGAMING yeah but even in the epilogue it doesn't matter though. he doesn't really try to relate to Jack or his imagination/love of books and reading and stuff sooooo i mean eh. lol. i just don't really care for John, but that's just my personal opinion.

    • @zagreus101
      @zagreus101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@K.114. he tries, he's just been left behind. He can't read, hes a violent criminal, and he desperately wants his son to be something better

    • @nbamv1893
      @nbamv1893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@zagreus101 John can read…

  • @cheesecurlpapi
    @cheesecurlpapi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Arthur saying I gave you all I had makes me tear up a little

  • @ryanhowell4072
    @ryanhowell4072 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the best story summary on this game I’ve seen. Great video!

  • @benparker1161
    @benparker1161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    Something I noticed, on Guarma Arthur is with the 4 main antagonists John has to fight.
    Micah in the final mission
    Javier, Bill, and Dutch in the first RDR.

    • @ThePatientWolf
      @ThePatientWolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      That’s very true. I never noticed that!

    • @the_competent_gamer9454
      @the_competent_gamer9454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Another smaller detail is during the big bank heist: When Lenny is shot, all 4 antagonists of the RDR games run past Lenny's body (Micah, Bill, Javier, & Dutch) while Arthur tends to Lenny and Charles stops to pay his respect.

    • @FatMonkeyUK
      @FatMonkeyUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It’s almost as if they’re in a gang together or something

    • @auroraflos2498
      @auroraflos2498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@the_competent_gamer9454 That’s a bit unfair, as Javier and Dutch did turn around and stop for a second in shock. Bill and Micah ran right past, though.

    • @--nade
      @--nade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@auroraflos2498 I think I saw that as order of caring for each character, Arthur liking him the most stops, Charles also. Then Dutch and Javier 2 people with clear care but not as much. The final 2 as the least caring. Like Javier didn't want to kill John, Dutch was trying to protect himself and Micha and Bill the least caring both threatening and trying to kill John.

  • @dennisg.8618
    @dennisg.8618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +696

    I need a Sadie and a Charles game or dlc

    • @stranded8088
      @stranded8088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      Charles is definitely a character that deserved more depth into his story, whatever it is.

    • @VioletMilks
      @VioletMilks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@stranded8088 I would like to see his life after he leaves the ranch.
      See him make a family, and so on

    • @AsteroidSpy
      @AsteroidSpy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Sadie sucks

    • @dababy7256
      @dababy7256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah I liked Charles

    • @ripevanwinkle494
      @ripevanwinkle494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Sadie voice actor is trash.. she’s overacting

  • @LeeEverett1
    @LeeEverett1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a fantastic summary. I like to listen to audio books from time to time and this was perfect to just listen in the background and being able to understand everything.

  • @cheyennereynoso4116
    @cheyennereynoso4116 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is such a great video. I always come back to it. I’ve watched this almost 7 or 8 times now.

  • @bikehunter82
    @bikehunter82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +872

    There is actually closure in this story line there is an Easter egg and grand theft auto 5 where you find a book written by Jack Marston where he talks about stories of the wild West which is everything that has gone on in both red dead redemption games. He became an author after killing Ross.

    • @tushargupta4262
      @tushargupta4262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dayummm

    • @DrWongburger
      @DrWongburger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Assuming any of its true. Could just be a dime novel story afterall. There is a lot of mysticism in the redemptions. Then again, GTA has it's fair share of strangeness.

    • @jeriko_studios
      @jeriko_studios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Kid really went "im going to kill you for murdering my father- ooooo look a book story!"

    • @marcusaurelius4941
      @marcusaurelius4941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      however, GTA and RDR are not supposed to be in the same universe canonically

    • @hellercord5584
      @hellercord5584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeriko_studios not really it went oooo look a book to -im going to kill you for murdering my father to -oooo a look a book

  • @EnderalRocks
    @EnderalRocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    This game is a masterpiece, literally the only time I've cried over a game

    • @Alphae21
      @Alphae21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      soy

    • @Alphae21
      @Alphae21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      sorry for saying soy

    • @mahmud7645
      @mahmud7645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Alphae21 Alpha e redemption

    • @PomptonII
      @PomptonII 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it's kinda shit I have 10 playthroughs on the game it's good if you are playing for the 1st time but then you see all the lazy programming and scripted stuff and it becomes repetitive

    • @Alextooclean
      @Alextooclean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@PomptonII of course if you play TEN playthroughs it’s going to get boring and repetitive. Thought that was common sense

  • @Vaeshkar
    @Vaeshkar ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this. Just finished RDR2 and can't play RDR. So this really helped and I shed a tear. Thank you.

  • @sharktoof1
    @sharktoof1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I sat and watched the entire hour. Went so fast. Amazing video and great work!
    The Red Dead games are my all time favorites. I’ve played a lot of incredible games over my lifetime. But these ones are special.

  • @danielparker8189
    @danielparker8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +593

    What destroyed the Dutch Van der Linde gang?
    Dutch’s ego.
    He demanded blind loyalty and did not tolerate anyone questioning his leadership or decisions. That’s why he attached more to Micah in the end. Micah shamelessly submitted himself to Dutch’s ego.

    • @scarecrow460
      @scarecrow460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That’s the only way to really explain it

    • @terrygamble986
      @terrygamble986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      You mean Micah continued to stroke Dutch's ego to keep the raging fire burning.

    • @MultiRainday
      @MultiRainday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Micah was just being a dick

    • @deadsoul4190
      @deadsoul4190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Micah was manipulative

    • @drake-rq9nn
      @drake-rq9nn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah what truly destroyed the gang was 1 sentence and It was... "I have a plan" dutch van der lin 1899

  • @zeuszo_o1593
    @zeuszo_o1593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +424

    You left out the best part
    “You’re a wanted man Mr.Morgan, $5,000 for you’re head alone”
    Arthur: “5,000 dollars? Can I turn myself in?”

    • @zandergarrison1446
      @zandergarrison1446 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      bro arthur was a goat😭 he didn’t have to die

    • @jdent4544
      @jdent4544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      5 Grand he is worth more than that to us.

    • @celesstic
      @celesstic ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@jdent4544 5k in 1899 is 178k in today’s money

    • @HeirToSparda
      @HeirToSparda ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "I've got jellybeans, you like jellybeans?"

    • @jarlwhiterun7478
      @jarlwhiterun7478 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your*
      It's not you are head.

  • @whiterabit09
    @whiterabit09 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A lot of hard work went into making this video and it shows, thanks for making it.

  • @imperialspy7204
    @imperialspy7204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A cool detail is that the first time Micah appears through the snow you can hear snake rattling in the background

  • @maxhydekyle2425
    @maxhydekyle2425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +308

    In the end of it all, Jack is the man Arthur truly saved. Of course that is only because he saved John and Abigail who had at least a few good years together before RDR1. Jack is the one who escaped this life. Sure, he killed John's killer, but, from what we've seen in Easter eggs and such, Jack moves on and becomes a writer. He finally leaves the west and escaped the life that his father was doomed to.

    • @spookubus
      @spookubus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or he lived his life on the run from what he did, or got drafted into the military and the book im gtav is his biography

    • @dripsnake44
      @dripsnake44 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@spookubus Considering that he canonically survives until the 1990’s where he dies of old age, I’d say that he doesn’t go on the run cuz he didn’t exactly have a gang to defend him like Dutch did. Him being drafted is likely though.

    • @brandocalrissian3294
      @brandocalrissian3294 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@spookubus why would he have to live on the run? Nobody knows he killed Ross.

  • @Julio_Gomes
    @Julio_Gomes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +436

    I've played the game about 7 times now, but I still feel like watching this. The story is just that good

    • @RatedSupreme
      @RatedSupreme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True

    • @arthurmorgan8164
      @arthurmorgan8164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've played this game 16 times and I still can't get my honor to be good very frustrating

    • @Julio_Gomes
      @Julio_Gomes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@arthurmorgan8164 really? I couldn't get my honor to be bad lol.

    • @nayten0324
      @nayten0324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve played and finished rdr 1 about 5 times and rdr 2 about 3 times

    • @arthurmorgan8164
      @arthurmorgan8164 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Julio_Gomes well, that's probably because your not out for blood like me

  • @btrdangerdan2010
    @btrdangerdan2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What a well put together story. Worth my 3am evening!

  • @CenizaAshes
    @CenizaAshes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Took me so long to give red dead redemption a chance, saw it on sale on steam and thought i would give it a shot. I absolutely fell in love with the game and the story touched my heart making me what to buy Red Dead Redemption 1

  • @Lost_Sh33p
    @Lost_Sh33p 3 ปีที่แล้ว +410

    It be nice to know Sadies fate and how exactly Abigail died, those are my biggest questions

    • @RiotnRespect
      @RiotnRespect 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      I’ve always assumed Abigail died from illness.

    • @quincycoffield8736
      @quincycoffield8736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      It’s assumed she died from illness and it’s believed that Sadie went to South America to continue bounty hunting and possibly start a new life like Charles

    • @southernmillionaire
      @southernmillionaire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@quincycoffield8736 she did die from illness in rdr1

    • @quincycoffield8736
      @quincycoffield8736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@southernmillionaire figured so. Thank you for telling me

    • @thegrimreaper8790
      @thegrimreaper8790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She got tuberculosis in red dead redemption 1

  • @Wordgoblin
    @Wordgoblin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +419

    At the end of John Marston in RDR1, I was absolutely floored that they killed the best character in all of video games. Fortunately, Jack's ending was so satisfying that it felt like there was no other way it should have happened. I thought for sure that no other character could ever make me feel like I did at the end of that game. I was super hyped for RDR2; I bought a PS4 Pro and a new 65" TV just so I could experience it in the best way I could. But who was this Arthur guy? I'd much rather be playing as John...
    Needless to say, I cried when Arthur died. Kudos to Rockstar for doing the impossible and make me love another character more than John Marston. If they release another RDR, and they do it again, I swear its going to be like an actual family member dying.
    Of course, if they don't right their ship, that isn't going to happen.

    • @jawdonxtrahero6673
      @jawdonxtrahero6673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yeah, I probably think Red Dead 2 is my favourite game of all time at this point. I finished the Story yesterday and the epilogue in the morning and good grief the way they made you care for Arthur and the way he tries to change for the better before he passes, I just felt it 😪 his relationships with the characters and how he tried to help Dutch see what was right and knowing no matter what honor you had, you couldn't keep him alive just broke me. Even Charlotte, I felt so bad for her til i found out she was aware he didnt have long 😕 and Riding that horse back to the sound of 'Unshaken' was just the epitome of self reflection. The game's Immaculate and I will probably play it again very soon without a doubt

    • @lachlanando7931
      @lachlanando7931 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're makin a new rdr bro

  • @MrGemonwilliams
    @MrGemonwilliams ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great job👍 I love your narration I felt as though I knew the characters you so cleverly brought to life. I'm going back and play this game and complete it thanks to your narration

  • @SharkyShocker
    @SharkyShocker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just finished the game this morning.
    What a great analysis and recap.

  • @fluffyfeetbmf
    @fluffyfeetbmf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Agent Milton was always a man that believed in making things right, and Micha was always a problem, and Bill was always a punk, but Dutch was supposed to be a good guy, and all about the family. I was so disappointed in Dutch. It’s sad when you find out that Molly never said a word.

    • @Jenna_Talia
      @Jenna_Talia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Yep. Only reason she proclaimed that she ratted them out is because it was the *only* thing that would get Dutch to acknowledge her existence.

    • @jawdonxtrahero6673
      @jawdonxtrahero6673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jenna_Talia Ah, I see. I did wonder why she would say that when she didn't. Poor lass

    • @misterfancy9528
      @misterfancy9528 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jawdonxtrahero6673
      She probably wanted to die

    • @syllvanis_
      @syllvanis_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Micha? The person hated by Arthru?

    • @grate9
      @grate9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@syllvanis_ and loyal sidekick to Duthc

  • @jm5789
    @jm5789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    38:27 when he gave him the hat i cried ;(

    • @charlie3948
      @charlie3948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YESS I felt the same way, I knew it was the end... I cried

    • @ISA-yz9qv
      @ISA-yz9qv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you Gay bro !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @charlie3948
      @charlie3948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ISA-yz9qv that is uncalled for....

    • @gallarinas
      @gallarinas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ISA-yz9qv for what? crying?

    • @jayambry6150
      @jayambry6150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ISA-yz9qv your mom gay

  • @daddyworksatmicrosoft1572
    @daddyworksatmicrosoft1572 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is a game that really touched my heart in a way no other game did... i honstely wish i could somehow keep it in anyway to like a decade from now to replay it

  • @cb-ol8ez
    @cb-ol8ez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so freaking awesome. I’ve played rdr2 so many times and not had the heart to play rdr yet.. Arthur’s death was too much!! I’m not sure I could play the game without him (rdr) and this video has given me what I have wanted to know without playing it.. think I will now! Good work dude, awesome video!!

  • @hcrozee
    @hcrozee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    This video is criminally hidden within TH-cam, amazing, thank you.

  • @kingbeef396
    @kingbeef396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +390

    Rdr3 will probably be about the blackwater robbery when arthur was young or we play as jack after john dies.

    • @macmiller9510
      @macmiller9510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He died In 1916

    • @nighthawk2
      @nighthawk2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      Can’t take place after with Jack bc civilization has already been developed. Practically no Wild West exists anymore so wouldn’t be much of a cowboy game lol would love to play young Arthur so we can see how this gang formed under Dutch

    • @RequisiteFunction
      @RequisiteFunction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It could be a different location altogether, but earlier. Maybe even link to RD Revolver

    • @vq6142
      @vq6142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You already got to play as Jack after johns death in rdr1.

    • @sashanikobellic7228
      @sashanikobellic7228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Maybe just new story and a new era like old school mobsters or vietnam war story.

  • @redefv
    @redefv หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is extremely well done! I played both right when they came out and meant to play the first one again and just got too busy. Thank you for this!

  • @richardroessler6529
    @richardroessler6529 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job telling this story. I also hope there's more to come with it.

  • @stone8563
    @stone8563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    The amount of times I’ve come back and rewatched this video is crazy. This was so well made.

  • @Olvrem
    @Olvrem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +834

    spoiler: Jack Marston gets drafted into the first world war and dies unceremoniously of machine gun fire while going over the top. twist is after he dies you play as Jacks son "Jake Marston" and you get revenge by killing Hitler.

    • @capeesh5068
      @capeesh5068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +364

      Hitler just so happens to be Dutch’s great grandson

    • @trollege9618
      @trollege9618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      Hitler killed himself and Jack's son killed him? Wait a minute...

    • @trollege9618
      @trollege9618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @jamus mccullough Hitler participated in WW1 as a soldier you muffin

    • @lmao.3661
      @lmao.3661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @jamus mccullough he was the one on the machine gun, obviously

    • @trollege9618
      @trollege9618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@lmao.3661 yes

  • @dontmindme2546
    @dontmindme2546 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Amazing breakdown and analysis of this breathtaking franchise. For me when I played the game I always had a lot of compassion for Dutch since, I always loved his speeches and charisma ,the timing for his lines and his way of knowing how to get the best out of his gang really made have an interest in the character. In my opinion if you really look in depth at the trolley crash in Saint Denis, Dutch suffers severe brain damage, in the sense that he starts getting really agitated , and verbally attacking Arthur on several occasions. Which is a big sign of brain damage as I know from personal experience. Dutch completely loses the plot and does whatever it takes to get to Bronte. (Regardless of nearly having his Enforcer devoured by an alligator) Once he gets to Bronte and he’s on that boat it’s just him and Bronte, in his mind and he knows he’s going to come out the victor, showing a complete reversal of the whole concept and idea of his character. Once Bronte is finished off, he gets bloodthirsty , feeling like he’s on top of the world. Knowing that he’s taken down the king of a major city, which only fuels his ego even further. Once he knows that the Lemoyne National Bank robbery is his last big job before paradise. He rests on his laurels knowing that this is it and that his dream will finally become a reality. But once Hosea is killed and all the money goes down with the ship he loses it. Knowing that his best friend and most trusted advisor is dead and gone the realisation sets in. Allowing Micah to take a hold of him and feed him nonsensical ideas and visions. Leading Dutch’s descent into madness even more intriguing from my perspective.

  • @visitstothebank
    @visitstothebank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I don’t think no game can ever get me more emotionally involved than this.

  • @Viking.warrior.94
    @Viking.warrior.94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    in my opinion Arthur is the among the best characters that rockstar has ever made, a caring person who battles his inner demons so other people can prosper.
    without a doubt my favourite moment is when he sacrifises himself so that john can escape with his family

    • @navonmyhand7999
      @navonmyhand7999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      When he says "I gave you all I had" as one of his words, my heart hurts every time. He really gave everything he could to Dutch and his plans/ideology (his morals, his chance with Mary Linton, his health, his life eventually)

  • @colbyhann1808
    @colbyhann1808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow what a amazing story i cant imagine the time it took to put this together thank you so mucn

  • @stephenharper9961
    @stephenharper9961 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best complete end of end video regarding red dead redemption as a franchise well researched and fantastically delivered

  • @godsloyalsoldier
    @godsloyalsoldier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +453

    does anyone know the song that starts at 46:23

    • @questionable3476
      @questionable3476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I think it’s the ending part of The Braithwaite Manor theme

    • @coryhutton2261
      @coryhutton2261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Blood fueds, ancient and modern. Performed by woody Jackson. Enjoy 😉

    • @Jordan-vx1xy
      @Jordan-vx1xy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Idk but american venom is almost the same

    • @questionable3476
      @questionable3476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jordan-vx1xy it could be american respite, the track that plays after you kill micah and walk away from Mt Hagen

    • @bryndenrivers9001
      @bryndenrivers9001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the music from one of the RDR2 trailers

  • @Wu_36
    @Wu_36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I’d like to see:
    Charles story after Beecher hope
    The early frontier years of Rains Fall, Landon Ricketts, young Hosea and Uncles. Maybe bring Red Harlow into the picture.
    Or maybe bring in Jack for a final ride with some of the old fans members and their families. They try to find the Black water stash.

    • @Captain_Corn
      @Captain_Corn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The black water stash is gone. Micah and Dutch got it in chapter 8

    • @ANNEKE1999
      @ANNEKE1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The Blackwater stash was in the box on the mountain where you kill Micah.

    • @otterfan65
      @otterfan65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      most of the blackwater money was taken by john at the end of epilogue part 2

    • @flacobrian3754
      @flacobrian3754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The Golden Age of the Wild West starring a new gang with cameos from a younger Hosea, Dutch and Arthur set during the 1870s
      Jack Marston during the prohibition/depression with the new generation of outlaws like Bonnie and Clyde and John Dillinger and how he helps robs banks and trains and gets involved with the new mafia (Al Capone) in the big city.
      That way if you play these games chronologically you go from the 1870s - 1930s and see the changes in city and technology and way of life and see the similarities between the outlaws of the Wild West and the outlaws of the depression/prohibition.
      DLC can be Bounty Hunting as Sadie Adler, Javier in Mexico, Rise of Bill Williamson’s Gang and Charles Move to Canada

    • @blurr8066
      @blurr8066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Charles one could be a Red Dead game but not a RDR game. The second one i’d like that. And the last one if they dont find it that would work because in Epilogue 2 they have the money so they can find it

  • @marmitaa8619
    @marmitaa8619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched this entirely. Thank you for taking me on this journey again.

  • @yevkin75
    @yevkin75 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. I just finished it but I didn't want it to be over so reliving it with you here was great. Its now one of my favorite games of all time because of the story but more so because of Arthur. By far one of my favorite characters of all time. The only game that has ever pulled me in and made me feel some kind of way about these characters as if they were real. *SPOILER* Arthur's end had my eyes leaking. The slow build with him getting sicker and sicker. How he got sick was interesting and heartbreaking. The long horse rides with the music playing. Just incredible. RIP Arthur Morgan, the Heart of the Outlaws.

  • @thomasmackay1204
    @thomasmackay1204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    In RDR2 agent Ross says "Enjoy the fishing, while you still can to Jack"
    He will be the one killing agent Ross while he is fishing, it's so crazy to think about.

    • @HDVlog68
      @HDVlog68 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No you’ve said that and playing both games that is so on point

    • @SomeoneThatIsHappy
      @SomeoneThatIsHappy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ross was duck hunting actually

    • @thomasmackay1204
      @thomasmackay1204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SomeoneThatIsHappy no he was fishing watch Strange Man's latest video he covers this topic

    • @RDR911
      @RDR911 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s called writing and foreshadowing. First time with a story? 🤣

    • @thomasmackay1204
      @thomasmackay1204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RDR911 nobody asked kiddo

  • @bakeyboi3958
    @bakeyboi3958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    it's really a shame how john said "I turned my back on them after they turned their back on me" when there is no mention of Arthur, who, as his last chance at happiness, saved john and his family from those who were after them.

    • @GlennDavey
      @GlennDavey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      In general though, it was true. You really wouldn't mention that little bit of help from Arthur at the end every time you tell people the basic story. He's dead now. And really the story is true, he felt like he didn't have a home there anymore, Dutch went crazy, so he turned his back on it all. It's excusable. But I always had resistance to Arthur from having played John first.

    • @bakeyboi3958
      @bakeyboi3958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@GlennDavey it sucks that dutch's mental decline was caused, in theory, by the trolley accident with lenny and Arthur. Also Hosea was holding Dutch together, he made him see what he was doing wrong. After he died, it just got worse and worse. He leaned more towards Micah because he was submissive to everything Dutch thought. Dutch just through those 20 years of loyalty away because of the ignorance of one six-month-long gang member

    • @egg-cf8bt
      @egg-cf8bt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well the actual reason is because he didn't exist yet the canonical reason is most likely because he went for the money instead of helping John because why else would no one even utter a word about Arthur if he hadn't has betrayed everyone I mean there's probably a reason high honor isn't the only ending

    • @deathbyslipknot
      @deathbyslipknot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@egg-cf8bt No, the canonical reason is that there's no reason to mention Arthur in RDR1. In the Epilogue of RDR2 John tells Mary Beth that he thinks about Arthur often, but he doesn't like to speak about him because it's painful. 12 years have passed since Arthur's death, John is more focused on the basics of the situation which is: The gang did leave him. They did leave him to die on the train heist and he has to hunt them down.

    • @deathbyslipknot
      @deathbyslipknot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@bakeyboi3958 The trolley accident theory holds no weight. Dutch was always a bad person, as made evident by him ruthlessly killing Heidi McCourt in the Blackwater heist long before the trolley crash, and his insanity was worsened by the strenuous situation of the gang falling apart, people around him dying, and the law constantly closing in on him. He got desperate and greedy and Micah was one of the only ones that stayed with him. That's why he favored Micah in the end, because Arthur was questioning his authority and Micah wasn't.

  • @kamransadri5401
    @kamransadri5401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great man, well done.

  • @maxterpaxter0882
    @maxterpaxter0882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I love how he uses the High Honour and Help John ending as that's is the real ending

  • @revthescatman137
    @revthescatman137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    The O’driscolls didn’t take Sadie hostage in the beginning of the game, she hid in the cellar

    • @gameaddictkhan177
      @gameaddictkhan177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah 😊

    • @Smoking_Man
      @Smoking_Man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But several times she brings up "the things they did to me" insinuating that she was beaten, tortured, r*ped, etc.

    • @revthescatman137
      @revthescatman137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Smoking_Man I’m pretty sure they had issues with the o driscolls before

    • @bjellison905
      @bjellison905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They found her tied up in the cellar not hiding