Gran Turismo 7 vs Gran Turismo Sport | Direct Comparison

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  • Early Access Review code provided by Sony Computer Entertainment.
    Direct visual and gameplay comparison of the recently released "Gran Turismo 7" and the previous entry, "Gran Turismo Sport."
    This video covers a ton of content for Gran Turismo 7 - including various gameplay features, UI elements, and other aspects of the game that have been modified.
    Both games are being played on the PlayStation 5 at their highest available visual mode, with ray tracing enabled when necessary.
    Learn more about my setup here: • Ultimate Gaming Setup ...
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  • @IzzyCooks
    @IzzyCooks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +876

    The roads are a huge difference, they actually have detail and texture now

  • @Nick-Emery
    @Nick-Emery 2 ปีที่แล้ว +491

    The nürburgring is massively different, I feel like the gradients are more obvious now

    • @scottd7222
      @scottd7222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      It's amazing. If you put type 2 wobble in cockpit view it's like I can feel the elevation change. Love it.

    • @fabrb26
      @fabrb26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dont forget you comparing a PS4 vs PS5 game. it's 5.5x more graphical power, and i don't see 5.5x better graphics

    • @scottd7222
      @scottd7222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@fabrb26 it's not that simple

    • @BlindStreet0
      @BlindStreet0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its the same mate lol...

    • @yostinpoveda2083
      @yostinpoveda2083 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fabrb26 that is because the graphics go to the performance of the GPU and CPU in terms of delivering better fps.

  • @IrishCoffeee
    @IrishCoffeee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    While watching this video I realise how damn good GT Sport actually looks

    • @evilformerlys4704
      @evilformerlys4704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Well that's because visuals are reaching that saturation point that they won't get any better looking, all you can do is enhance the fine details and fill out the world with more elements.
      I don't think gamers use their internets as much as their mouths. Find the most realistic looking driving game on PC, and you'll notice that the visuals of that and GT Sport are pretty close on a car by car basis. Only so many polygons can go into making the car look real enough to the point you can't tell if it's a photo of a real one or a complete generated one. So only the fine details are left to get up to speed, like self shadowing, reflections, self reflections, light refraction through glass, shadows.
      TL;DR, graphics in GT Sport were already near the limit, only thing was actual resolution and color reproduction left. So the wasn't going to bea large jump in visuals, we're closing in on that diminishing returns.

    • @justmetal227
      @justmetal227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The wet road and gravel looks better in sport

    • @fezzy5591
      @fezzy5591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean it's not like they built Gran Turismo 7 from the ground up for PS5, so of course GT Sport holds up

    • @darkninja9499
      @darkninja9499 ปีที่แล้ว

      100th like

    • @michaelschneider1365
      @michaelschneider1365 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      they just should have built in gt sport. gt7 is good but spot is better

  • @tylermitchell8649
    @tylermitchell8649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    the adaptive triggers are wild. this is probably the only game i'll keep them on because it almost makes it better and helps with navigating the road/knowing when to brake and accelerate/know when your car is losing grip.

    • @szczur0192
      @szczur0192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yep, but I set them to weakest as the brake is actively fighting my finger and I can't press it just the right amount, it either doesn't budge or gives up after applying more force and goes in 100%
      The haptics are great though, they help you feel what the car is doing and on dirt tracks it's just too much fun

    • @turbos7780
      @turbos7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But playing with a controller isnt that fun

    • @szczur0192
      @szczur0192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@turbos7780 gl convincing me to buy a new steering wheel because somehow my G25 is now outdated.

    • @georgetsapekis
      @georgetsapekis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get a wheel man!

    • @govindkelwa4063
      @govindkelwa4063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes I also use triggers at low @@szczur0192

  • @kapilbusawah7169
    @kapilbusawah7169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    The wind effects add much needed realism. Still, DRIVECLUB from 2014 has the best precipitation effects I've ever seen from a game

    • @anshukandulna1844
      @anshukandulna1844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Fax bro it still hasn't been topped

    • @ilyadratutin6385
      @ilyadratutin6385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro got flabbergasted lmao 🤣🤭😃🤤🔥

    • @leepicgaymer5464
      @leepicgaymer5464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @CYB3R2K30 Yeah people compare an overdramatic Arcade game effects with a simcade game which made to be somewhat realistic.

    • @evilformerlys4704
      @evilformerlys4704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@leepicgaymer5464 How about we stop making up words. Arcade has nothing to do with stimulation, they are all simulations, the difference is their accuracy. Everyone has gotten used to using words incorrectly because it's easy but all you're doing is perpetuating ignorance. All driving games are simulations of driving, only their accuracy targets are what separates them. DriveClub target was to be simulation but with less emphasis on hardcore physics, hence the over the top rain driving and cars somehow not being affected much by the amount of water on the courses, looks cool but unrealistic as hell.
      Look up the term simulation and you'll see why I even wrote that at the beginning. Even Mario Kart is a simulation of karts but leaves the realism at the karts and goes full mental everywhere else but still stimulating grip and slip, which is weird isn't it.

    • @ENFDO
      @ENFDO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      DRIVECLUB has better precipitation THAN REAL LIFE.

  • @kevintiba7195
    @kevintiba7195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    17:20 That transition to rain from a sound perspective was just perfect

    • @dianalawwick9292
      @dianalawwick9292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello.. how are you doing?

    • @soop8765
      @soop8765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I disagree, it sounds like the least realistic sound of all the comparisons. It sounds like the windows are down and the camera is outside the car.
      The sound of the tires running on wet (non-puddle) road sounds way too deep and "spray-y" and flat.
      The sound in general of going through puddles sounds almost non-existent too where you would expect to hydroplane. Normally you hear a rush of water run through the wheel well as it slows the car down.
      The sound of the water hitting the windshield is also way too agreesive and sounds again like the window is open or that the cabin is made of cardboard and that the vehicle lacks build quality. My 2009 A4 has better sound dampening than that Ferrari and I strongly doubt that is true.
      Adding to the window down comment, it indeed does sound like the window is down. It's raining hard, that should sound
      The windshield wipers also have a large thud as they complete a cycle that makes them sound like they are skipping over the surface and need to be replaced. Granted its hard to replicate something like this as they ususually have 0 sound to them unless they are going pretty hard in real life, the sound could have been a bit quieter with the thud a little more shall and less bass-y.
      The Ferrari may not be the best benchmark for this final note, but heavy precipitation actually dampens sound travel very hard. The engine should not sound perfectly clear in all different weather environments. It should be quieter by a margin in the rain.

    • @DanielZH
      @DanielZH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@soop8765 Yes, sound design ain't good yet.

  • @DjordyDonopawiro
    @DjordyDonopawiro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    the thing is, lighting in GT sport was mostly baked into the scenery thus making it easier to tweak the lighting to better fidelity. realtime lighting is way harder to get right all the time

    • @Gomas1
      @Gomas1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Gt sport was basically the base for gt7.

    • @gluGPU
      @gluGPU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GT Sports lighting is lit in real time, it does not used baked shadows.
      Also baked lighting would arguably be harder to get right becuz you would need to recalculate lighting changes every time you changed something

    • @DjordyDonopawiro
      @DjordyDonopawiro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@gluGPU it uses baked indirect lighting. It's not fully real time afaik

    • @DjordyDonopawiro
      @DjordyDonopawiro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@gluGPU gt sport doesn't offer realtime time transition only certain times that could be chosen from the menu

    • @dc-vw4qm
      @dc-vw4qm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gluGPU glocal illumination is baked, cant change time of day. Dynamic shadows are live

  • @youraverageotaku1093
    @youraverageotaku1093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    Surprised you didn't talk about the effects when you hit puddles or kerbs in the rain. It's like a 2D sprite animation that follows with the car rather than staying where the puddle was... It's really jarring

    • @_n-Dee_
      @_n-Dee_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      really hit the nail with it 👍

    • @evilformerlys4704
      @evilformerlys4704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Yeah, that splash effect looks like it was added last minute and whoever did it forgot to tie it to the point of inference instead of the moving object(car) is fugly to me. Hopeful they address that and while they're at it, do something about those stagnant tree branches and leaves that don't move. OMG that is the most aggravating thing to not see on a track full of trees like Deep Forest and Nurburgring, where the moment PD? High time dynamic movement has reached the trees, it seemingly stops at grass . I need them branches and leaves to be animated by the wind to add much needed life to courses and the city courses area missing ambient traffic noise and the occasional pigeon flock. Do they not have birds in Tokyo?

    • @blackoutkr8183
      @blackoutkr8183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      agreed

    • @ld4083
      @ld4083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I am yet to play the new GT, and I noticed that! I am sorta disappointed even from the snipets I did see. That is so weird they would make it that way when you have ray tracing available

    • @NBag-ni4ow
      @NBag-ni4ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah the splash effects look horrible. Weird he says it is an improvement.

  • @machina_spirit
    @machina_spirit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Was checking your channel page last night waiting for this one to drop! This is probably my most anticipated Direct Comparison from you yet.
    Also great to see that the 458 is still your favorite test car for these racing sim games DC videos :P
    The consistency of using that same car model helps comparisons to past sim games you’ve compared outside of just these 2 GT games.

  • @GokuTheHusky
    @GokuTheHusky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    When you use anti lag there attentiom to detail where you gotta wait for the muffler to get hot enough to ignite flames more aggressive, just like in real life.

  • @Cornholio_X
    @Cornholio_X 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    GT7 looks very beautiful but remember this: It's a cross gen game. If GT7 came out for PS5 only, it would have improved in general. Car details are one of the best i've seen. Rain effects is the only thing that looks "a bit weird" i would say. Rain in Driveclub still looks the best.

    • @highoctanesynx7950
      @highoctanesynx7950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Rain effects never looked good in gran turismo
      At least its an improvement in GT7

    • @UnderWarranty
      @UnderWarranty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So a lot of other games but they all look better then GT7, i not long ago finished Ghost of tsushima and that was made before the PS5

    • @ABRAHAMGOLDENBERG
      @ABRAHAMGOLDENBERG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Very minor improvement if you ask me, not worth £69.

    • @evilformerlys4704
      @evilformerlys4704 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnderWarranty Wtf? How is a 3rd person action adventure title remotely the same as a a driving game? Does your brain work correctly?

    • @BigKieth420
      @BigKieth420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ABRAHAMGOLDENBERG I think the performance of the game not including the visuals is what makes it a lot more impressive

  • @RogueSpecterGamingOfficial
    @RogueSpecterGamingOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Seriously i have been waiting for this video from you man. Love your in depth analysis on games.

  • @solid5502
    @solid5502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Gran Turismo is my childhood from the PS1 days and the car details are so damn beautiful. I feel that the environmental designs in the Forza series are better though.

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@zZiL341yRj736 And they took so many years for this GT7 to appear that makes you wonder what they were doing.
      I disagree that this game is like sports games since GT7 has lots of improvements and differences to GT6 and same tracks and many same cars doesn't mean much since no one wants to lose iconic tracks and cars. We just want more, BUT still that was too many years.
      PS4 basically passed without a full GT game. Gt sport was just a multiplayer mode of a true full GT.
      Oh well! See you again with GT8 at the middle or end of the life circle of PS6.

    • @MrGulyo
      @MrGulyo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      No its not. I have forza 7 and don't play at all...

    • @deathshooter7220
      @deathshooter7220 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrGulyo What makes you think it's not?

    • @GaryBeary
      @GaryBeary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Forza Motorsport has the same bland environmentsl textures, I don't know how you think it is any better...

    • @gurkaran_X
      @gurkaran_X 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GaryBeary play forza horizon 5 then

  • @IzzyCooks
    @IzzyCooks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I always anticipate one of these videos whenever a new racing game drops

  • @kenway346
    @kenway346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You missed one major point: gt7 finally has that interior camera shake option, which can be found in other games like project cars. This was not featured in gtsport

  • @gkg3673
    @gkg3673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Love the wind noise they added in GT7

    • @tejlemkee4732
      @tejlemkee4732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Frl I was flying in my R32 skyline and I could just hear the wind gusts

    • @MrFabtahiti
      @MrFabtahiti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      and the rain noise too

    • @alejandroperalta1982
      @alejandroperalta1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MrFabtahiti I was about to say that 😂,I was like: what?you can hear the rain now? Holy cow! It's amazing.

  • @XDRONIN
    @XDRONIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think GT7 is an improvement in many ways, 8/10 improvements I think, and I think the sound has also improved, and you can hear a bit better the low bellowing sounds various engines make but, again, not exactly 100 percent better. Excellent video.

  • @DarkSwordsman
    @DarkSwordsman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    The only thing I'm disappointed by is that they still seem to have that awkward engine sound pause when a car shifts gears. It's hard to notice on GT cars with DCTs, but you can hear it clearly in the GT3RS comparison.

    • @jasperwithers1626
      @jasperwithers1626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You do realise that's what happens in reality when you up shift an old car?!?

    • @DarkSwordsman
      @DarkSwordsman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@jasperwithers1626 First of all, the GT3 RS is not an old car. It has been in production starting in 2015 and it has a PDK transmission.
      Secondly, did you even listen to the video? Go watch videos of a GT3 RS IRL and tell me that the shifting in GT doesn't sound weird.
      GT has had this weird shifting audio in nearly it's entire series. If you play anything from GT4 to GT7 you'll hear how awkward the shifts are. They sound like they randomly cut out instead of having the engine react like it would IRL. The audio basically just stops playing.

    • @olisnowdon2172
      @olisnowdon2172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn’t agree more, tbh I’m still waiting for a racing game with decent sound design where the cars are concerned

    • @ggthx
      @ggthx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah no racing games to date have superb sound quality.

    • @kyantemori
      @kyantemori 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@olisnowdon2172 not exactly a racing game but Dirt Rally 2.0 has decent engine sounds

  • @_n-Dee_
    @_n-Dee_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    7:57 I can't agree with that. Why games like
    GRiD (legends), ProjectCars, Forza
    have full damaging models?
    When you see Bugatti, Koenigsegg, Zonda everything can fall off, deformed and broken.
    The details are insane, you also can see the engine bay, lots parts of the chassi... (PC2)
    I think these models were developed parts for parts differently as in GT7 like a whole "piece" of a car.
    8:46 the water splash over puddles don't look realistic as you mentioned.
    It should stay on point where it starts and don't move with the cars direction.
    Also it should be sprayed fast.
    These slowmo effect looks weird.

    • @Brand.on18
      @Brand.on18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I assumed that if they couldn’t get the clearance for a handful of vehicles. Polyphony wouldn’t build an inconsistent damage model where some cars can be heavily damaged and others only small scratches and dents.

    • @yedagoatnocap858
      @yedagoatnocap858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Cars having very accurate damage model would somewhat encourage crashing. Gran turismo is very insistent on good sport and clean racing, hence the less focus on accurate damage!

    • @ricardoamendoeira3800
      @ricardoamendoeira3800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @baj I think it does the opposite, there are almost no consequences to crashing, sometimes you can even ride the rails/walls of a city corner instead of braking and you gain time.

    • @AxeDragon1989
      @AxeDragon1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yedagoatnocap858 having awesome damage effects would be 90% of the reason I'd play a car game 😂 without it, seems boring

    • @ericg1100
      @ericg1100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those puddle splash effects are laughable 8:45

  • @simonkalloniatis7578
    @simonkalloniatis7578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are you working on man? You haven't posted in awhile. I just want to say I love your videos and I think your one of the best video game TH-camrs out there. I don't understand why you don't have millions of subscribers. Other major TH-camrs even use your direct comparisons in there videos. Angry Joe just did in his Horizon review. I love how all your videos can be viewed in 4k also!

  • @herrlogan17
    @herrlogan17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    5:33 this is what I thought when driving in Tokyo in Gt7. The wet surface with reflections overall looks worse than Sport. Tha car glow reflections are far less pronounced on PS4, which is a good thing. But overall I enjoy Gt7 on full :) Great comparison, thanks!

    • @francesco8320
      @francesco8320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t like the fact that interiors looks darker than gt sport

    • @Touge1211
      @Touge1211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      GT sport look more alive & less foggy, all the objects in gt7 are not clear, so dissapointed

    • @nilayanghosh9902
      @nilayanghosh9902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Touge1211 that's reality my friend

    • @aaronsmith7143
      @aaronsmith7143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Touge1211
      There are a lot of dynamics at play in gt7. Everything in sport aside from the lighting was pre-baked. There is an actual amount of atmosphere present in 7 that affects everything. Overall it looks better to me. Especially the fact that rain and water puddles are now fully dynamic.

    • @causality462
      @causality462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda like nfs I noticed that too 😔

  • @aldenbeckovic2980
    @aldenbeckovic2980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I come from Forza Motorsport 5 and GT6 backin 2013-2014. I prefered FM5 at the time over GT6 since the better "sim-feeling". I havent had a Xbox or PS for a few years now but decited to order a PS5 as all of my friends were doing it. So, i got the PS5 last year (november 2021) and have tried some games but didnt really stick to any of them. God of War was fun, and from time to time i play COD Warzone (a few hours a month just with friends). I was kinda looking forward for GT7 and hoped it would be a good game. Anyway, got it at the release date, fell in love and have played it almost the entire weekend. My wife was so excited for me when I tried to explain all the updates and physics, sound, tracks. Oh man. I know a few of you are comparing it to GT Sport and dont feel like this is a big jump but for me this is a 10/10. Even more than i wished for!

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I assume your scenario is not that much unique, many racing fans switched between GT and Forza, so depending on the background of the player, GT7 can look like a major "upgrade" or not quite a game changer or anything. It's fair enough, I don't play a "simulation" game like this for like 8 years, lol most likely I will be completely shocked if I ever try Forza or GT

  • @MaoriGamerDood
    @MaoriGamerDood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these Videos.
    I'd love to see a direct comparison of KOF14 and KOF15
    I reckon that would be neat

  • @RitaMaSTeR
    @RitaMaSTeR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome content, I could be fooled if you had a Digital Foundry logo in your video. Keep up!

  • @hieuluutran7572
    @hieuluutran7572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I have't played any racing game for a while but somehow GT sports looks more real in some comparisons.

  • @IkariSniper
    @IkariSniper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I've been playing Gran Turismo Sport for almost a week now and of course I wanted to know the differences between that one and Gran Turismo 7. I can see there's a bit of nice improvements in 7 but I think they're not worthy of the 40USD gap between these. In fact, some circuits look even better in Sport imo (Tokyo Expressway at night, for example).
    GT Sport is like the Performance Mode of GT7. Still they're both great games.

  • @BOKtober
    @BOKtober 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    GT7 looks great but tbh i was expecting a bigger jump particularly when it comes to environments, clearly a lot of development time was spent on car models, dynamic weather and physics which was a good choice by PD

    • @ilyadratutin6385
      @ilyadratutin6385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They are literally reusing all of the car models from gt 6 and sport. They are exactly the same dude

    • @andreasmoller9798
      @andreasmoller9798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ilyadratutin6385 no gt6 models are not in gt7, the car models in gt is superior to any other racing game, the graphics of track is not always as good in gran turismo, but cars are very detailed

    • @nimke8
      @nimke8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remember it’s a cross gen game

  • @FantasyNero
    @FantasyNero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    it's Literally the same game but with better reflections and a bit higher textures (Gran Turismo 7 Feels Like Gran Turismo Sport Remastered)
    5:11 This is a Cube map reflection not a ray tracing reflection, check the radar on the right is not visible on the reflection
    5:14 This is Ray tracing reflection on the cars only

  • @deathtrooper2048
    @deathtrooper2048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The priotize framerate mode on GT7 will make the photo and replay modes look more like gameplay

  • @Rockshurt
    @Rockshurt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It is basically the same core game with new menus and beefed up graphics. More of an update than really a new game. I still like it anyways.

  • @sugartitsenpai2342
    @sugartitsenpai2342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I mean, they've been faithfully recreating the race tracks for years now, and not a lot changes, so when you put out the tracks aren't too detailed or re-used assets, I feel like there's not a lot you can do before you are re-imagining the track and straying from the idea of it being "true to life". Whilst environment detail is dope, it the least of the concerns for GT and I would say it shines for it. Emphasis is on the gameplay!

    • @willthethrill4394
      @willthethrill4394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They’re closed circuit races. No reason for the environment to look like shit. Horizon 5 is the perfect example of that. Insane detail in a huge open world and the cars. The best feature the game has is scapes. Everything else is just a remake for $70. The game is fun, but so far it’s like a 6 or 7

    • @EarthIsFlat456
      @EarthIsFlat456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Unfortunately the tracks aren't laser scanned. But Grand Turismo has never been a simulator so that's OK.

    • @EarthIsFlat456
      @EarthIsFlat456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@iane9041 It's just advertisement. In terms of physics simulation GT isn't compareble to true racing sims such as iRacing, rFactor and AC. Play those with a good wheel and pedal setup and the differences become immense.

    • @nuno-cunha
      @nuno-cunha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EarthIsFlat456 even playing with controllers it's a night and day comparison. Racing sims are much more detailed on how the car behaves in regards to their environment

    • @wadimek116
      @wadimek116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EarthIsFlat456 Neither of those you mention handle like a real car either...

  • @blackwolfman7874
    @blackwolfman7874 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:00 is a demonstration on steering correction on turns. I love this game for that reason!

  • @highoctanesynx7950
    @highoctanesynx7950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The game is no doubt amazing, the only problems i have with graphics is...consistency? I don't know how to even describe it, in game graphics are for sure less in quality than the replay mode which suppose to show the same race? Isn't it hardware taxing to recreate the same race footage all over again just with different resolution and all instead of a straight replay of the race just with the camera moving? Also ingame the car models and lighting are way higher in quality than the environmental designs heck even the tracks look worse than cars...how?
    At least non of this compromises gameplay, but you know what does? Always online requirement.....just why? the graphics not being important is ok but not being able to play offline is a huge mistake imo especially considering how good gt7 is gameplay wise why moving people away from it like this?

    • @KadeOh
      @KadeOh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      From what I’ve read online ray tracing is only seen in replay mode and not while actually playing

    • @kratosofwar6165
      @kratosofwar6165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only difference between both is Ray tracing

    • @geraltnroach
      @geraltnroach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Always online is bad, imo.
      They need to stop doing this.

    • @dolbyprologicii
      @dolbyprologicii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I fully agree with always online issue. Polyphony has gone EA.

    • @highoctanesynx7950
      @highoctanesynx7950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kratosofwar6165 i highly doubt it, or maybe its just replay mode showing the better parts of the graphics, but shouldn't all the game look like the "better parts"?
      This is the consistency issue i talked about, why are replays more pleasant to look at than gameplay graphically?

  • @uum6
    @uum6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Holy heavens, simply watching that final clip of you hydroplaning a 458 in the rain-drenched night gave me anxiety. This is about to be a blast.

    • @Nick930
      @Nick930  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Def need to grab some better tires for rain conditions! I used the default tires for the sake of demonstrating the effect of the hydroplaning in the game for this video.

  • @seogabonotjah6555
    @seogabonotjah6555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    for me the minor effects of damages and some animation believed would be fixed on spec 2.0/later update like the GT sports as well. still major improvements about details and oh yes sounds/exhaust tone

  • @coffeebeaan_
    @coffeebeaan_ ปีที่แล้ว

    ayo, thanks for taking the time to make this vide. respect 💯

  • @HellBound_OFFICIAL
    @HellBound_OFFICIAL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    After seeing this video, I feel like Sony could do better. You have pointed many aspects, that could have been improved, buy they haven't. Thank you for the video.

    • @learner5090
      @learner5090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially since it's 70 dollars

  • @nikolasloutsis5695
    @nikolasloutsis5695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think that gran turismo sport is better in some things like the career the expirience levels and these things.

  • @gregstar2091
    @gregstar2091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Nick930, I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your game-documentaries so far. especially the one concidering the MGS-series and the witcher-trilogy. Just for curiosity´s sake, could you make one regarding the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - games and the outstanding mega stand-alone project S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Anomaly? Kindest regards from G-Town. =)

  • @shanm.8204
    @shanm.8204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You said the plume of the lighting or reflections seem to much.
    Do you drive a real car on freeways or highways? That same plume is there on traffic. I have lost sight of the road do to this plume coming off cars.
    I feel like they did a superb job on making this game look so much more realistic then Grand Turismo Sport.

  • @chunkuswumpus3515
    @chunkuswumpus3515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    GTS had good audio (amazing compared to gt6) but gt7 I could tell you were driving a Porsche without seeing it which is another level of audio accuracy.

  • @persona4011
    @persona4011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Looks like the next GT game will be the true showcase for the ps5 hardware, I hope that RT would be on while racing not just on replay and photo mode.

    • @EarthIsFlat456
      @EarthIsFlat456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@philcollins1305 At 4K it isn't gonna happen but at 1440p it should be achievable on the base PS5.

    • @DingbatToast
      @DingbatToast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @XJP 1440 would be fine, but the ps5 currently can't do native 1440

    • @EarthIsFlat456
      @EarthIsFlat456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DingbatToast But it can render the game at 1440p first and then upscale to 4K and output it.

    • @EarthIsFlat456
      @EarthIsFlat456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philcollins1305 1080p with ray tracing is most definitely achievable. You're rendering only 1/4 the amount of pixels at 4K so that leaves a lot of headroom for rendering other effects.

    • @BiriBiri925
      @BiriBiri925 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course not. The next GT will be released only after the release of PS6. And this game will also be cross-gen. GT7 will be maintained and developed throughout the life cycle of the PS5.
      And no one really cares about this ray tracing lshit, it's a useless marketing bullshit.

  • @speedtree
    @speedtree 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Nick930 will you release a comparison video for the GTA 5 enhanced release and pointing out the ray tracing features like dynamic shadows and such? Best!

  • @rjs872951
    @rjs872951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish you would have discussed actual car dynamics, handling, response to curbs, accurate representation of vehicle movement or not. which is better?

  • @alonzoharris222
    @alonzoharris222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    GT Sport looks much more like real life to me than GT7, whic looks amazing but looks like a video game. When playing GT Sport, people often think I'm watching TV. Just my opinion.

    • @Paz-jv3rj
      @Paz-jv3rj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try Driveclub then and see their reactions.

  • @kpag3030
    @kpag3030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s so funny. I thought GT sport looked great. Especially the cars. Against GT 7 though, GT sport looks almost bad. I think 7 looks really good. Especially for a console driving game. It’s enough off track detail to keep you interested with a beautiful HDR implementation and definitely improved sky box and lighting. And the cars look amazing.

    • @The2808erik
      @The2808erik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its not that impressive, considering its been 5 years and the performance jumps of the hardware between a ps4 pro and a ps5 are massive, they enhanced the assets they had from GT sport fairly well I give em that.

    • @casual35
      @casual35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's almost like a PC graphics from high to ultra. It's not that big of a deal in the big picture.

  • @deathtrooper2048
    @deathtrooper2048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Why are rain drops louder than the engine??

  • @dillonsukram9381
    @dillonsukram9381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beamng drive is a racing game that uses physics to realistically deform the car in crashes. In Forza Horizon the car takes a little bit of damage and Need for Speed and Burnout has crashes in cutscenes. So I think big racing game developers should have soft body physics as well

  • @imranhossainrohit6990
    @imranhossainrohit6990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    GT7 every option has 4K res with it. They should have done more on setting like high graphics 60 with 1800p or something and RT 60fps on 1800p or something whatever the developer wants to choose

    • @Boskibro
      @Boskibro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not possible to have a resolution that high with 60fps and ray tracing. There is no ray tracing during gameplay for a reason. It would probably have to be 1080p 30 FPS which is too little for them to put out there

    • @anshukandulna1844
      @anshukandulna1844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Boskibro bro PS5 already does 4K 30 FPS in replay mode using raytracing

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anshukandulna1844 replay is not gameplay

  • @f1jones544
    @f1jones544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There's way too much ambient noise in GT 7, like wind and wet tire noise. Also, I think with some graphics features they're reaching the uncanny valley, especially those shadows. It's "better" but I think I find Sport more visually pleasing.

    • @neonpop80
      @neonpop80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think I agree. Sport was “soft” in certain areas making it feel more natural and by extension more realistic. Motion blur in replays and softer shadows really had my eyes glued to the screen trickery that made it all come together. Though Sport had baked lighting which usually makes lighting look much nicer and dynamic and I’m only comparing the PS4 versions

    • @spikethespacecowboy
      @spikethespacecowboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It sounds so genetic and canned too. The rain and wind are in way to short of a loop, or there aren't many tracks they are using in a randomization.

  • @binballin8374
    @binballin8374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In gt sport is there the green and red arrows on the track to show when to brake

  • @DingbatToast
    @DingbatToast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This comparison video turned out to be a great review of GT7

  • @Luci2310
    @Luci2310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is like an enhanced sport versión.

  • @altx7776
    @altx7776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the year is 2022 and for some reason people continue to compare forza and gran turismo

  • @matdiez8738
    @matdiez8738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do a comparison of Resident Evil 4 UHD Edition vs HD Project?

  • @ThEMath0ss
    @ThEMath0ss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Belos comentários, bela comparação, thanks

  • @mind2199
    @mind2199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love them both although 7 is more presentable which draws me in

  • @Local_Dictator
    @Local_Dictator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    been waiting for this one for a long time

  • @danielss7245
    @danielss7245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me, the next gen(PS5 and SeriesX) must work with 1080P at 60FPS using Engines like Unreal5 ahead.For Multiplayer games, 1080P at 120Fps.I really don't care with raytracing and 4K for games.We can see basicly the same graphics in GTSport and GT7, the Big diference is the frame rate.Xone and Xone S has great graphics but a lot problems with frame rates

  • @christofos
    @christofos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, can you do an Overwatch vs Overwatch 2 video? The Overwatch 2 beta is out and does contain some engine improvements over the first one. Thanks!

  • @GrayFox790
    @GrayFox790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! What is the background song I love it?

    • @psarilaos
      @psarilaos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ive been trying to find it as well. Only thing ive come up with so far is that it's a remix or edit of "DJ Q feat. Zibba - Night Shift". I havent found anything else.

    • @GrayFox790
      @GrayFox790 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@psarilaos Thanks!

  • @stugamer2693
    @stugamer2693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    GTSport "remastered" to 4K.

  • @KainsTorment
    @KainsTorment ปีที่แล้ว

    Which has the most hyper sport cars ? like Ferrari - McLaren - Bugatti Veyron etc or are they in both games?

  • @dante0280
    @dante0280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In case of loading times, PS5 ver. no need complaint but the PS4 ver. even with SSD storage, it took forever to load the main menu.

  • @dave93x
    @dave93x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Im so happy that Gran Turismo is still alive and kicking. Wish Project Gotham, Midnight Club and Juiced were still around but we can't have everything. Could add NFS to that list too because it hasn't been good for some time now.

    • @solid5502
      @solid5502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Midnight Club 3: Dub Edition was my personal favorite. Rockstar Games needs to make a comeback with the series.

    • @EarthIsFlat456
      @EarthIsFlat456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@solid5502 They are too busy milking GTA Online and older GTA titles...

  • @RScholl26
    @RScholl26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I miss the B-Spec feature, and also the Class level career progression.

  • @artgx8261
    @artgx8261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any chance of grid 2019 vs grid legends comparisons?

  • @whatsmine7848
    @whatsmine7848 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My game (PS5) isn’t working did the first 3 races did all the licenses up to A1 International but stay no more races have come up, any ideas how to fix it

  • @ruthlessdanny1705
    @ruthlessdanny1705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Basically a GT sport remastered, I might just save my money and wait for it to go on sale

  • @hugotarga
    @hugotarga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I was really disappointed with the improvements in the game, I thought the graphics would be waaaay better than GT Sport since it's a new generation, but Polyphony just copied most of the assets from GTS and revamped some textures, and it took them over 4 years to release the game for some reason even if 80% of it was imported from GT Sport (Uncharted 4 came out 3 years after Naughty Dog released The Last of Us and they completely revamped everything from Uncharted 3). The gameplay improvements were a little disappointing too, most of what they added was cool and well done, but the game still lacks things that racing games from 2005 have, no championships with multiple races, no realistic races with a normal start and qualifying, no visual car damage, a barebones split-screen that used to be fully fledged but PD destroyed it for god knows why, and the list goes on. I really like the franchise but I wish PD improved the game a lot more on which installment

    • @llamatherama256
      @llamatherama256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree

    • @frosty2odyssey
      @frosty2odyssey ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree w you however the thing is if polyphony released gt7 exclusively on the ps5 then graphics would've been way better than gt sport however it is a cross gen title so it would also come out on ps4 so they couldn't completely revamp the graphics

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If the models have higher resolutions and/or textures, they likely weren't copied, because it's not worth the hassle. If you had any experience modeling

  • @Deedric_Kee
    @Deedric_Kee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the future I really hope the add more tracks from popular locations in "Europe and Asia. I also want more flailing tree animations. 👍

  • @nateriver1005
    @nateriver1005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would have liked using my own music tracks while driving street cars at least. It just seems natural to do so in a car

  • @michaelschneider1365
    @michaelschneider1365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Graphics improved but interface and features like breaking cones and selling cars are better in gt sport.

  • @wildboy11180
    @wildboy11180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think that In GT7 the reflection of the sun is a lil bit to much

    • @Touge1211
      @Touge1211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The entire game apparentky was made to blind you. Gt sport is much clear imaging staring at that phine for 4-5 hours straight

    • @stephenglassdale5914
      @stephenglassdale5914 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Touge1211 wear sunglasses like. in real life sunny driving. its THAT real

  • @1980venom
    @1980venom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at 3:31, how did they not notice that tree in the back at Polyphony? And at 6:23, if you compare the 2, I think the left picture (GT Sport) looks better

  • @everydayhero3610
    @everydayhero3610 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats the background music? im trying to get into stuff like that

    • @psarilaos
      @psarilaos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ive been searching for it as well. Only thing ive found so far is that it's a remix or edit of "DJ Q feat. Zibba - Night Shift". Generally the genre youre looking for is UK garage/ 2-step.

  • @tommykaira8775
    @tommykaira8775 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But the realism of sport is so much more immersive. Just look at Tokyo it’s like actually being on the road

  • @Harzman01
    @Harzman01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My only issue with GT sound is how the cars sound when they shift. Everything else is great for me

  • @jojohill27
    @jojohill27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Noticed that the physical edition of the 25th anniversary had less credits but 3 more cars so I grabbed that one for that toms supra lol

  • @FaisalKhan-ow7uu
    @FaisalKhan-ow7uu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it Jarrod's Tech speaking?

  • @defnotatroll
    @defnotatroll ปีที่แล้ว +3

    GT7 makes sport look like Real Racing 3 on mobile

  • @PygmalionFaciebat
    @PygmalionFaciebat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If they fix the overdone bloom effect, and the to sharp shadows - then Gran Turismo 7 rules on every level. All other issues (like smaller amount of dust from the sand) are minor priority and also easy to fix.

    • @spaceman-pe5je
      @spaceman-pe5je 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what bloom?

    • @PygmalionFaciebat
      @PygmalionFaciebat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spaceman-pe5je The sunreflections on the car are overdone, in my opinion. Thats what i mean with ''bloom''-effect.

    • @spaceman-pe5je
      @spaceman-pe5je 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PygmalionFaciebat huh, the sun reflections on the cars are one of the biggest improvements imo

  • @1980venom
    @1980venom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come there are still angles in round shapes? Like the wheels for instance.

  • @marlongasparotto5867
    @marlongasparotto5867 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What music is playing in the background?? I actually love it! Haha

  • @Gratte-moi-le-dos
    @Gratte-moi-le-dos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING which does the difference between the 2 games: THE GAMEPLAY. GTS is boring, GT7 is so pleasant’and fun to play. A really masterpiece. If you take your joypad or your PC combo keyboard/mouse, you are done! It will be very difficult to leave your cars and and the road 😉

  • @GotuUmraniya
    @GotuUmraniya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I played gt7 first time last night, on PS4, physics are the best in the series, superb responsive handling, breaking is realistic, audio is excellent, sense of speed can finally be felt in a GT game

    • @PhreakDarkSoul
      @PhreakDarkSoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Physics on off road tracks is extremely bad...

    • @GotuUmraniya
      @GotuUmraniya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PhreakDarkSoul did a few rally track laps in license tests but they seemed fine to me except during bumps in the track

    • @PhreakDarkSoul
      @PhreakDarkSoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GotuUmraniya I faced a lot "invisble" bumps, sending my heavy truck high in the air.

    • @GotuUmraniya
      @GotuUmraniya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PhreakDarkSoul i see

    • @IllusArt
      @IllusArt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Loving the sense of speed the best thus far in GT.

  • @Rwayne-
    @Rwayne- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can u please make a comparison about Borderlands 3 vs Tiny Tinas's Wonderland ? Thanks in advice.

  • @readyforlol
    @readyforlol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:29... Wait.
    You got something OTHER than the minimum amount of credits from a roulette ?
    Impossible.

  • @Maxrom
    @Maxrom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a great, and detailed video, but sadly, it highlights exactly the reason why I've little interest in these next generation consoles or another incremental update to GT. Basically, you're getting a whole bunch of relatively minor graphical upgrades that really should have no impact on either gameplay, or your enjoyment. If you're a nit picking pixel peeper, then you'll love all this, but for most, these upgrades are so minor compared to evolutions in graphical fidelity between earlier games and generations of console, I just can't get excited about this stuff anymore. An upgrade to a dirt texture that's found behind a crash barrier.. I mean come on, is that something people are excited about now? Play whatever makes you happy of course, but for me, this just doesn't cut it.

    • @Nick930
      @Nick930  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Graphics are only part of this analysis. Gameplay features and changes are also detailed

    • @kennyobrienaiti
      @kennyobrienaiti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree, have a PS5 since launch and it is bang average

    • @yostinpoveda2083
      @yostinpoveda2083 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kennyobrienaiti that is why I went for a gaming laptop and still kept my PS4. I have bought gt7 for sure but on PS4. And i am glad I have the laptop to buy other PC games so I can have the best of both worlds

  • @blue0856
    @blue0856 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why does 200 kmph feel so slow -_-

  • @dansterbak9827
    @dansterbak9827 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the song in the background?

  • @unfairsanic5089
    @unfairsanic5089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have gt sport rn havent played it should i stick on this game and wait till gt7 fix this problem?

  • @tylerroy472
    @tylerroy472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Graphically, the game isn’t the visual PS5 showcase I expected it to be…considering it doesn’t look much better compared to GT Sport.

    • @kingplaya6558
      @kingplaya6558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It was always a PS4 game with a PS5 port so that was to be expected tbh

    • @addictedgaming4131
      @addictedgaming4131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its not a ps5 native game. What did you expect ? Lol

    • @AdiusOmega
      @AdiusOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@kingplaya6558 Same with Horizon Forbidden West. It looks STUNNING on PS5. Personally I think Driveclub (2014) on PS4 looks technically better than this visually. Although it runs at 1080p it's a much better presentation visually than this.

    • @solid5502
      @solid5502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's still a very beautiful looking game.

    • @kingplaya6558
      @kingplaya6558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AdiusOmega I agree about Horizon, Guerilla Games has always been up there among the industry leaders with their tech and programming skills

  • @jimking81
    @jimking81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This reflection effect over the cars is too much and distracting! They should decrease it a lot in the next patches. Other than that is an awesome looking game

  • @josaop
    @josaop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool your TH-cam channel thumb is out. Greetings from a German TH-camr colleague

  • @breakingthe4thwall260
    @breakingthe4thwall260 ปีที่แล้ว

    I spotted one problem in the opening. the reflective surfaces is nice but in the opening GT7 sequence your being blinded by the reflection of the bck of your own car. That's ultr unrealistic as the rea of the car is behind you when your driving.

  • @samuelsoto5855
    @samuelsoto5855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would say that gran turismo 7 is alot better then Gran Turismo sport for these reasons. Gran Turismo 7 has 424 cars with 90 tracks at launch, more contents and features, better physics, cars customizations, and others.
    Gran Turismo sport has 168 cars with 60 tracks at launch, but with updates, they added 324 cars with 82 tracks, and less contents and features.
    I would strongly recommend to play Gran Turismo 7 instead of Gran Turismo sport.

  • @sarangagrawal1560
    @sarangagrawal1560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I feel like the photo mode in every game increases the graphics fidelity.

    • @zenkoz3158
      @zenkoz3158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's kinda to be expected, as it can change the priorities of the hardware. Theres more room for image quality when phyics aren't being rendered, lighting is static, and for model quality the model can be swapped during a few second long render process so that the system has plenty of time to render the greater quality assets and lighting. Id imagine on the ps5 that taking a picture also renders more light bounces and improves the surface simulation for ray tracing resulting in more true to life details.

  • @turismofoegaming8806
    @turismofoegaming8806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As far as the graphics go there are some places in scenes in GTA seven on PS4 pro that I think looks better than GT seven on PS five and vice versa comparing sport to seven..

  • @petitus90
    @petitus90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The bloom effect is like having cataracts disease 😅 hope they turn it a bit down