Congrats on the flight and great build and video 👍. I just built a RTH model with the stock flight controller and ESCs and servos. I had a good maiden line-of-sight, but unsuccessful auto-launch on flight two (inav 7.0). May have been user error. It’s interesting what has been said in the comments about the stock electronics causing troubles. This is my first plane with a flight controller, so I don’t have anything to compare it to. Hopefully I can get it worked out.
i am about to dive into the inav , i have always used vector but times change so i need to give this ago , your vids and explanations certainly help. i picked up a speedy bee 405 wing fc , just got to decided which plane to fit it to for testing .👍👍
Andrew, I like that this board support two cameras, unlike the Matek F405 Wing V2. Will this board work with larger planes, or is it suited only to smaller planes like what you're flying?
Struggled with boot loader for a couple of hours on this board, after a couple of hours, I grabbed my brand new spare, and had no problems. FC was bricked from the factory. I did not solder, so hopefully they will stand by their product. This is where I get to find out if this was worth the lower price. Im sure they will.
The Penguin is flying very smooth with the SpeedyBee F405 INAV setup. Regarding "User Modes" for video switching (7:35): I believe it's only an option if an analog camera setup is configured. Not available with digital video configurations. (Selecting 'MSP DisplayPort' in "Ports" tab likely disabled. This also determines what is display as for setting options on the "OSD" tab) Have wished that digital video systems would offer a switch option for second camera. It would be nice to have a downward view, rearward, or other alternative view. Would make for a lightweight second camera option.
User mode doesn't appear even with a reflash and pure analog FPV setup. I suspect the Mini needs different firmware to the Wing full size, but it hasn't appeared yet.
It sounds like an INAV issue (dual analog cameras, not yet supported). Something for the devs to research. Hopefully they have access to a SpeedyBee Mini-wing FC so can verify. At least timing is good for upcoming release schedule.
@@AerialWaviator Just heard back from SpeedyBee. It's not in the official INAV 7.0 yet, only in SpeedyBee's own INAV build, which has only now been added to the product page.
@Andrew great video. I just got a penguin with a SpeedyBeeF405 wing board installed. Very helpful video. BTW Where do you get the 4 pin DuPont plugs from?
Hey Andrew-nice day there! Have you ever done a range (max check) on the EXLRS? And yes--I too have noticed some of the modes disappear (sometimes) from iNAV in Ver 7.0 - but then later it suddenly appeared (after a reboot) - in my case it was WP. Is that you doing the GREAT pickin' near the end? Have a great day mate!
Hi mate... Thanks for the explanation for this FC. I have some questions, I saw using a capacitor on your flight control, is it 2 capacitors or only 1 capacitor? Can you give some instructions for soldering? Thanks for your advice, now I'm building this project.
Capacitors are optional, but mostly beneficial to reduce noise in analog FPV. I soldered mine to the ESC pads when I was using it on a single motor model, then changed to the battery pads with this twin motor Penguin. Negative to negative and positive to positive.
Hi Andrew, about changing the esc protocol from standard to DShot 600 or something? Just tested mine with 712 and standard as esc protocol, works great. But i did see few reviewers showing it gets shipped with DSHOT 600 enabled
Looks good Andrew, I noticed that you have the TX power in the display. I've enabled that , but for some reason doesn't seem to work. What might I be doing wrong?
@@AndrewNewton thanks I need my fc f405 to be connected with o3, to get full range, can it be done without gps? I tried to do the simple method in the speedybee app, when i reach the point to move the throttle, thete was no response
@@hussainjeragh For the 03 you need to arm the board. If you have configured it to use GPS then you need 3D GPS lock to arm. Yes you can configure the board to not use GPS.
I had an airplane that did the same "dirty dive" and fixed it by lessening the weight. I see a 3500mah 4S in 'er? Specs say a 1500mah 4S. Maybe the (roughly) extra 120 g is a little too much for the ailerons? Maybe increase the ail throws? Would like to know how you fixed 'er
Hi Andrew, I am planning on using the Matek F405WSE on my penquin, do you know if I will be able to switch the LEDs ON/OFF is i connect them to the LED G 5V LED on the board?
As Always Andrew your TH-cam Video's are (( EXCEPTIONALLY )) Helpful Re: The Speedybee F405 wing Mini After Downloading Inav Confg and Following your Step's Its only possible to Run the Motors Ailerons Elevators ect : on my win/10 Computer ( BUT ) Getting the Motors to Start on my TX16S Just Doesn:t Happen Would Really APPRECIATE your Help ????
Hi, i'm a total beginner on Inav. I would like to use my dji remote 2 with the pinguin. should I simply designate the UART corresponding to my O3 as serial RX? thanks
@@AndrewNewton Thank you for your answer. so if I understood correctly I solder the blue wire (sbus) to the sbus port. And in INAV I program UART 2 in Serial rx and UART 5 in Dji? thanks
@@AndrewNewton. Great flight! Lovely build! Great little flight controller. IMO, yes it’s good to wait for INAV VTOL to mature. I’ve converted my FIMI Manta VTOL from Arduplane to INAV, and the transition between modes is quite ‘hairy’🤣. I’ve suspended that experiment and will wait for future releases of INAV before I resume.
I setup this FC with the current FW and a couple of different ELRS Rx and after an hour or so of being connected to the PC for radio setup the FC stopped outputs of the servos and receiver outputs as well. Overheating?
@@AndrewNewton The FC still isn't showing any outputs in the receiver tab or on the servos. The Rx is outputting a servo signal to a Mateksys CRSF-PWM converter just fine.
@@AndrewNewton Okay, I just connected the Rx with Fc to Inav and the receiver tab output the servo movement on the main channels right up until I plugged in my battery then it quit working. Totally lost why the FC is doing this.
@@AndrewNewton GPS, Servos connected to the FC and smoke stopper. The serial indication status is "Blue", otherwise the "Navigation is safe" is a RED X right now in the pre-arming safety checks.
Can you provide the STL file for the base you mount the Flight Controller to? I can't seem to find anything that matches the screw layout in my Penguin.
Jen se zeptám proč nepoužít UBLOX7 dokáže použít více satelitů ? Děkuji za odpověd, mám stejný HW a používám rychlejší protokol UBLOX7 s GPS BZ251 a zdá se to být přenější, ale začínám díky pokus omyl a vašim videím .
@@AndrewNewton Zkoušel jsem postupně různé nastavení doma na zahradě na stole a toto my dalo z původních max 14 satelitů v daném místě 20 satelitů a při letu v režimu RTH my přišlo že zatáčky byly plynulejší ale ptám se raději zkušenějšího.
For me, price, esc pads , non crossfire issues, where they mounted the fc, WiFi, Bluetooth and a lack of luck with atom rc electronics make me only order kit versions now. The BL helix connection is fantastic too. Atom rc make great planes but all three of my servos on my penguin was doa. I would also add that many have had esc issues with the penguin and dolphin.
@@user-otzlixr I'd have to agree with you, mate! At least in our limited experience with the many units of their AtomRC Flying Fish sub-250gram toy! The digital servos and the odd little ESCs/PDB/etc board have caused quite a few issues on this otherwise brilliant little toy. Ditching most of the stock electrics or starting from scratch with just a kit seems a wise precaution. 🤔😊
It’s sad that they do not support 12 volts like the big brother Poor old luddites like me that use 1.3 ghz high power transmitters for long range FPV MUST have 12 volts !! Not sure I would like to try the “Use battery jumper” as 16.8 volts would blow the 1.3 unit I reckon Love the big brother but not this mini unit
I wasnt sure, I know the large one doesn't have it I thought they put it in the tiny one that's why you brought it up.... and said what I said.... good to know.... I wish it had it since I use dual analog cams when I use analog. I wish these had it.
![☀ Достойное сердце для серьезной птички [Speedybee F405 Wing Mini]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ku9Na3thOuw/mqdefault.jpg)
Beautiful flying location. It definitely beats the wind, rain, and snow we’re “enjoying” currently.
Great little FC board, after watching this I have placed my order. Thank you Andrew! and Speedybee! for bringing out and reviewing awesome products.
Got one on order Andrew. I like the smaller form factor....Bit miffed theres no 9 volt regulator for the HD vtx though....🤔😳🇬🇧
Congrats on the flight and great build and video 👍. I just built a RTH model with the stock flight controller and ESCs and servos. I had a good maiden line-of-sight, but unsuccessful auto-launch on flight two (inav 7.0). May have been user error. It’s interesting what has been said in the comments about the stock electronics causing troubles. This is my first plane with a flight controller, so I don’t have anything to compare it to. Hopefully I can get it worked out.
i am about to dive into the inav , i have always used vector but times change so i need to give this ago , your vids and explanations certainly help. i picked up a speedy bee 405 wing fc , just got to decided which plane to fit it to for testing .👍👍
There's many but a good one is the T1, it's quiet small and won't chop your fingers...
Many other options ofc 😜
Thanks a ton Andrew , for the request on INAV setup on wing
Great video . Love your explaining the setup .
Great Regards
My pleasure!
Andrew, I like that this board support two cameras, unlike the Matek F405 Wing V2. Will this board work with larger planes, or is it suited only to smaller planes like what you're flying?
Yes it's fine for bigger planes, keeping within the current limits
Struggled with boot loader for a couple of hours on this board, after a couple of hours, I grabbed my brand new spare, and had no problems.
FC was bricked from the factory. I did not solder, so hopefully they will stand by their product. This is where I get to find out if this was worth the lower price. Im sure they will.
Very wise to test before soldering.
The Penguin is flying very smooth with the SpeedyBee F405 INAV setup.
Regarding "User Modes" for video switching (7:35): I believe it's only an option if an analog camera setup is configured. Not available with digital video configurations. (Selecting 'MSP DisplayPort' in "Ports" tab likely disabled. This also determines what is display as for setting options on the "OSD" tab)
Have wished that digital video systems would offer a switch option for second camera. It would be nice to have a downward view, rearward, or other alternative view. Would make for a lightweight second camera option.
User mode doesn't appear even with a reflash and pure analog FPV setup. I suspect the Mini needs different firmware to the Wing full size, but it hasn't appeared yet.
It sounds like an INAV issue (dual analog cameras, not yet supported). Something for the devs to research. Hopefully they have access to a SpeedyBee Mini-wing FC so can verify. At least timing is good for upcoming release schedule.
@@AerialWaviator Just heard back from SpeedyBee. It's not in the official INAV 7.0 yet, only in SpeedyBee's own INAV build, which has only now been added to the product page.
They have in mixer Airplane with Differential thrust which I used on my penguin and it’s amazing
@Andrew great video. I just got a penguin with a SpeedyBeeF405 wing board installed. Very helpful video. BTW Where do you get the 4 pin DuPont plugs from?
Thanks Jerome. EBay - search for Dupont connectors
That , what a beautiful launch, beautiful model, nice ❤
Yes indeed!
Hey Andrew-nice day there! Have you ever done a range (max check) on the EXLRS?
And yes--I too have noticed some of the modes disappear (sometimes) from iNAV in Ver 7.0 - but then later it suddenly appeared (after a reboot) - in my case it was WP.
Is that you doing the GREAT pickin' near the end? Have a great day mate!
Thanks. Music is Shine your little light by Mini Vandals. TH-cam Audio Library. ELRS range limit would be way too far for me to test. 20 30 50 km?
Hi mate... Thanks for the explanation for this FC. I have some questions, I saw using a capacitor on your flight control, is it 2 capacitors or only 1 capacitor? Can you give some instructions for soldering? Thanks for your advice, now I'm building this project.
Capacitors are optional, but mostly beneficial to reduce noise in analog FPV. I soldered mine to the ESC pads when I was using it on a single motor model, then changed to the battery pads with this twin motor Penguin. Negative to negative and positive to positive.
@@AndrewNewton Hi Andrew, thank you so much for your clear explanation. Now I can start this project.
Cheers...
Hi Andrew, about changing the esc protocol from standard to DShot 600 or something? Just tested mine with 712 and standard as esc protocol, works great. But i did see few reviewers showing it gets shipped with DSHOT 600 enabled
Standard is fine for planes, can't recall how mine came from the factory.
Sure thanks
Looks good Andrew, I noticed that you have the TX power in the display. I've enabled that , but for some reason doesn't seem to work. What might I be doing wrong?
I see there was an answer on FB. Lucky because I didn't know the switch mode made the difference.
In the end, I had to do some reading as a last resort. Thanks for the reply, Andrew
thanks for the video, can i ask how can i assign the flight mode to my radio?
In the radio mixing assign a switch as the source for the mode channel, then select that channel in the INAV configurator mode screen.
@@AndrewNewton thanks
I need my fc f405 to be connected with o3, to get full range, can it be done without gps?
I tried to do the simple method in the speedybee app, when i reach the point to move the throttle, thete was no response
@@hussainjeragh For the 03 you need to arm the board. If you have configured it to use GPS then you need 3D GPS lock to arm. Yes you can configure the board to not use GPS.
BTW-I'm liking the look of that EASY SpeedyBee a lot. I may buy (preorder) a couple. Pls let me know of any anomalies you see. Tks Mate!
No issues so far
@@AndrewNewton Excellent! I ordered one from China (should be here in a week) and I plan to buy another. Thanks for the reply
I had an airplane that did the same "dirty dive" and fixed it by lessening the weight. I see a 3500mah 4S in 'er? Specs say a 1500mah 4S. Maybe the (roughly) extra 120 g is a little too much for the ailerons? Maybe increase the ail throws? Would like to know how you fixed 'er
Andrew does this setup involve head tracking or is your view fixed? Nice vid btw.
Fixed camera. I haven't done an HD head tracker yet
Hi Andrew, I am planning on using the Matek F405WSE on my penquin, do you know if I will be able to switch the LEDs ON/OFF is i connect them to the LED G 5V LED on the board?
No they are not programmable LEDs and the board doesn't have a switchable power output
Noted and thank you.
Do you need a compass for RTH to work or just with the gps its enough for a flying wing? Do i need a gps only or gps with compass?
No, compass not required. GPS provides direction when the plane is moving forward
As Always Andrew your TH-cam Video's are (( EXCEPTIONALLY )) Helpful Re: The Speedybee F405 wing Mini After Downloading Inav Confg and Following your Step's Its only possible to Run the Motors Ailerons Elevators ect : on my win/10 Computer ( BUT ) Getting the Motors to Start on my TX16S Just Doesn:t Happen Would Really APPRECIATE your Help ????
Thanks free spirit! Check the INAV Troubleshooting link in the description, and watch the Simplified INAV video. Should be something to help there.
Hi, i'm a total beginner on Inav. I would like to use my dji remote 2 with the pinguin. should I simply designate the UART corresponding to my O3 as serial RX? thanks
UART2 Serial Rx and connect 03 SBUS to the SBUS pin, UART5 DJI
@@AndrewNewton Thank you for your answer. so if I understood correctly I solder the blue wire (sbus) to the sbus port. And in INAV I program UART 2 in Serial rx and UART 5 in Dji? thanks
Yes correct. Might need the Ground wire for SBUS also.
Hi Andrew, have you considered trying a VTOL setup on a HeeWing T1 Ranger with Inav 7?
I have the T1 sitting here for that. I'll let the INAV VTOL development progress a bit more first.
@@AndrewNewton. Great flight! Lovely build! Great little flight controller. IMO, yes it’s good to wait for INAV VTOL to mature. I’ve converted my FIMI Manta VTOL from Arduplane to INAV, and the transition between modes is quite ‘hairy’🤣. I’ve suspended that experiment and will wait for future releases of INAV before I resume.
Great video, where did you get the RunCam Link Phoenix mounting board ?
Printed it. Thingiverse link in the description
@@AndrewNewton Thank you !
is it possible to test single motor failure on a 2 motor plane in INAV during flight
Thank you for making video of this FC I will Also try 😊
Good luck
I setup this FC with the current FW and a couple of different ELRS Rx and after an hour or so of being connected to the PC for radio setup the FC stopped outputs of the servos and receiver outputs as well. Overheating?
Could be, but I have not experienced it. Did it work again when cooled down?
@@AndrewNewton The FC still isn't showing any outputs in the receiver tab or on the servos. The Rx is outputting a servo signal to a Mateksys CRSF-PWM converter just fine.
@@AndrewNewton Okay, I just connected the Rx with Fc to Inav and the receiver tab output the servo movement on the main channels right up until I plugged in my battery then it quit working. Totally lost why the FC is doing this.
Any servos or peripherals connected? One might have shorted out. Check for shorts or solder bridges.
@@AndrewNewton GPS, Servos connected to the FC and smoke stopper. The serial indication status is "Blue", otherwise the "Navigation is safe" is a RED X right now in the pre-arming safety checks.
Can you provide the STL file for the base you mount the Flight Controller to? I can't seem to find anything that matches the screw layout in my Penguin.
Mine doesn't match the holes either. Just screwed in to the plywood
I'll design one. What FC are you using?
How do you get that beautiful osd? I have dji googles v2 rooted and wtfos, but still getting ugly pixelated fonts osd
Sneaky_FPV's INAV Hemi font
Jen se zeptám proč nepoužít UBLOX7 dokáže použít více satelitů ? Děkuji za odpověd, mám stejný HW a používám rychlejší protokol UBLOX7 s GPS BZ251 a zdá se to být přenější, ale začínám díky pokus omyl a vašim videím .
Yes if your GPS supports UBLOX7 then select UBLOX7 as the protocol. But UBLOX works also. I have not noticed enough of a difference to be concerned
@@AndrewNewton Zkoušel jsem postupně různé nastavení doma na zahradě na stole a toto my dalo z původních max 14 satelitů v daném místě 20 satelitů a při letu v režimu RTH my přišlo že zatáčky byly plynulejší ale ptám se raději zkušenějšího.
@@josefverner9653 Excellent testing. That makes you the more experienced person now.
What's wrong with AtomRC FC? They seem to be almost identical in terms of features except wireless
For me, price, esc pads , non crossfire issues, where they mounted the fc, WiFi, Bluetooth and a lack of luck with atom rc electronics make me only order kit versions now. The BL helix connection is fantastic too.
Atom rc make great planes but all three of my servos on my penguin was doa. I would also add that many have had esc issues with the penguin and dolphin.
Nothing wrong with it, I just needed a suitable model to test this SpeedyBee
@@user-otzlixr I'd have to agree with you, mate! At least in our limited experience with the many units of their AtomRC Flying Fish sub-250gram toy! The digital servos and the odd little ESCs/PDB/etc board have caused quite a few issues on this otherwise brilliant little toy. Ditching most of the stock electrics or starting from scratch with just a kit seems a wise precaution. 🤔😊
It’s sad that they do not support 12 volts like the big brother
Poor old luddites like me that use 1.3 ghz high power transmitters for long range FPV MUST have 12 volts !!
Not sure I would like to try the “Use battery jumper” as 16.8 volts would blow the 1.3 unit I reckon
Love the big brother but not this mini unit
This thing has more computing power than Apollo 13 lol
Seriously!
Yes amazing
there is much evidence they faked going there
Your camera switching won't show when you have it on HD mode if you put it on PAL or NTSC then your camera modes would appear in modes page
SpeedyBee admitted that camera switching didn't actually make it in to INAV 7.0 for this board.
I wasnt sure, I know the large one doesn't have it I thought they put it in the tiny one that's why you brought it up.... and said what I said.... good to know.... I wish it had it since I use dual analog cams when I use analog.
I wish these had it.