Your videos are fantastic Andrew! You've helped me so much in setting up my fixed wing and making the leap from quads. Word to the frustrated whose throttle works in INAV, but not with the transmitter; GPS must be able to connect to the satellite (not the FC!) for the motor to be able to arm. If you in a GPS denied environment (e.g. a large building), then you will need to disable it first, or configure it through CLI. You can check what is preventing the arm by typing "status" into the CLI and then seeing the codes - @18:33
Andrew, thanks for this tutorial. It solved a problem that probably kept me from crashing my wing on a maiden. I was trying to do the mixes in my transmitter while I was getting weird reactions from Inav when testing. I was pulling my hair out trying to figuring out why it was doing it! Now I know why! Inav was trying to work around the mixes in the radio that was screwing up the calculus in its controls. I cleared every mix I made (several hours worth) from my transmitter and now everything seems normal. I did all the reversing and changes in the mixer and outputs in Inav like you said -its all good now. Inav seems happy with it. Although at 17:55 you indicated that we could go into the transmitter and fix it-I still went into Inav outputs and did the reversing with (-) and servos until I got the right directions.
I have watch a lot of videos and started my first build and could not for the life of me get the plane to arm. Following this video step by step it did everything it supposed to and worked first time around. Thanks for a great basic setup tutorial
Great easy to follow setup procedure. The timeline chapters also serve as a nice checklist; for first flight, or beginning of new season. BTW: nice portable wing aid (20:15).
HUGE ! I needed this two month ago ! but some how my first INAV flight survived but I don't know how ! I just prayed and clicked things for weeks on end lol ! Merry Christmas and happy New Year. Peace on Earth 2024 ! 🙏
This is how I run INAV very basic as I fly most aircraft without a flight controller, more enjoyable in my opinion to tinker around and get the plane flying perfectly without any assistance 🎉
Thanks for this nice video! I just was about the fly our Discover Model Plane with a new FC, so you made a checklist for me. This is a perfect guide for beginners with the servo arm details!
Thank you for making this excellent video which has really clarified the correct radio setup and how to set up iNAV for a fixed wing plane. Just brilliant.
Hi Andrew. This is an awesome tutorial for first time set-up, I've been trying to get my speedy bee wing405 working for months and it turns out it was just my controller Imputs. I just followed your instructions and bang it's all good to go just like that. Thank you for making this video, I'd be lost without it. I've watched so many others, and I just got lost and gave up. So this was a blessing. Thank you so much. Merry Christmas, and I hope you have a great new year. Your a bloody legend 👍 👍
@@AndrewNewton betaflight is the source code that was forked on GitHub the made inav then inav it's focus has been GPS and sensor prioritised over the smooth responsiveness and control of the quad minimal latency and GPS has been gradually made to work with betaflight as an after thought but now I truly believe we have got to the point where both beta flight and inav should be forked back together again with a massive desire and it would be the most amazing configurator and firmware open source has ever but we would have to all be focussed on it by not allowing world events to get into the development discussions it would have to be a no troll zero tolerance to any agenda other than excellence of the source code
Great video Andrew. Thanks for sharing. Hope your weekend was great, our weather is finally warming up to be nicer flying weather. Have a great week.👍👍👍💯💯💯
Brilliant Andrew, really helpful having been away from fixed wing for a little while. Much appreciated and I hope you've had a great festive and all set for the New Year!
Hey Nick. I was just showing my Mum and sister some of your stunning videos last night. They were very impressed. Glad the video helped, and have a great New Year.
I really love this series - IMHO it couldn't be more perfectly targeted. Before the Seriously Dodo flight controller was discontinued, I purchased a few of them directly from RMRC. The Dodo has since been dropped by INAV, presumably because of its small FLASH size. But the extra features that require the extra FLASH aren't relevant to my simple requirements. So I'm trying to find an old version of INAV I can use with the Dodo. Your tutorial is extremely helpful in making this effort work. Perhaps I should just buy a new FC, but it galls me not to get use out of the perfectly good ones I already have. ;)
I still remember when Andrew used to say, many years ago, no need for a fight control board....😂....... Now he's the Aussie king of all things Inav. Now we need to watch him muddle through Ardupilot. I did try to get them to do a simplified interface, but it's hard to make guys with such a tech background understand why us mortals needed a simple introduction to it. So I just stuck to the graphic art for them.
Feliz Natal meu amigo Andrew , Deus abençoe sempre!eu tenho aprendido muito com você o aeromodelismo, estou evoluindo a cada dia, comprei um rádio MasterTX16S muito bom esse rádio!
Great video for the noobs Andrew....I like how you deleted the Inputs and created the model directly using the Mixers. I'm going to try that....Less is more...for sure. Why do we even need Inputs???....🤔🤔🤔😮😏🇬🇧
@@AndrewNewton Oh, that's interesting. Well I never use rates or expo on a Flight Controller with plane or quad....If I'm flying an ordinary plane LOS, then I only use Expo, never rates as well. That's why Expo was invented, no buggering about with rate switches..!!!!....🤔😳😏😀🇬🇧
Hello and thanks for sharing! First of all - I'm new in iNav. Could you tell me please, if I'm installing a FC on a single aileron servo/single flap servo aircraft (using Y-harness cable), how to set it up in iNav, because there are two aileron servos on two separate channels and no flap servo in the presets? Thank you! P.s. using Spektrum SRXL2 receiver, if that matters.
It would be great if you have the will and time to make a video of how to set up iNav for standard aircraft with flaps and gear; flap-elevator mix etc. I'm coming from LOS flying, and I'm sure that there are a lot of people like me - familiar with LOS flying and programming, but absolutely iNav/FPV newbies. And I can assure you that this number of people will grow up exponentially:)
Greetings and many thanks for the donation. Ailerons and flaps on Y-Leads are no problem. Plug the aileron Y-lead into S3 and set the INAV Mixer line for Servo1 to be "Stabilised Roll" then plug Flaps Y-lead in to S4 and change the Input to be "RC Channel x" where x is your flaps channel in the radio
Very good video thx! Only one thing I am not sure about is at 18:00 you said reverse the channels in the radio. I think it is not good, because if you reverse them, how to use stick commands? Thx!
Only if the radio outputs move the wrong way (looking at the INAV receiver page graphs). Stick commands would not work if the outputs were going the wrong way.
Andrew,,,I hope you don’t tire of all my questions. But another detail (for understanding iNAV). I now fully understand your choice of angle and manual flight modes on a three position switch (leaving acro to be accessed when the switch is in off position). The question is for the Navigation modes. You like RTH on a two position switch. When this RTH switch is selected (on),,,does this mode override the flight mode selected by the three position switch (and fly in a default flight mode per iNAV’s inherent choice)? {and I guess this same sort of result happens regardless of which Navigation mode is selected per set up switch}. Thank you.
No problem, you ask good questions Marty. RTH overrides all other modes because that's the panic mode for lost video or RC link, then Manual overrides all but RTH. All the Nav modes use Angle automatically.
Thanks again for your time and passion. I am very near a maiden and excited to once again give it a try. My first try was a good 3 years ago and was a total failure. Looking back,,,it was a terrible airframe choice on my part. Plus, your “Simplified” setup method of late last year (2023) had not been published:-). I will let you know how the first flight turns out,,,of which I am very confident.
I missed in this video clip how the servos are connected to the flight controller. And which servo is connected to which slot. Specifically, if the model has 2 aileron servos, which slot is the first aileron servo connected to and which slot is the second aileron servo connected to?
nice one Andrew first time ive seen a video to make me feel confidant enough to actually set one up many thanks. P.s. your elevator goes up when tail goes up not sure about that one ??
Hey Andrew, always love the videos 💪 I was trying to follow this for my Phoenix 759-2, ELRS, inav and f411-wte but having trouble with the flaps. Any tips or could you make a video?
Andrew...thank you for sharing this information. Question about NAV RTH;FAILSAFE, noticed you only setup Nav RTH. Is there a reason why you didn't setup Failsafe in the Modes? Thank you in advance.
No, do not use radio trims with INAV. You need use the Fixed Wing Level Trim (PIDS>Mechanics) to get level flight in Angle. I always start with +4 degrees.
Thanks for the instructions. I'm setting up my first FB, the SpeedyBee F405 Wing, my receiver is FrSky X8 and my radio is Radiomaster TX16S. The switches I assigned work well as well as the GPS. But with no inputs in my radio, there is no movement of ailerons, elevator, throttle and rudder. If I add the inputs in my radio, the controls work. How can your controls work without inputs?
Hi Andrew there is one thing I can’t seem to find with fixed wing set up. I can’t get my servo horns fitted very close to 90 degrees, is it done in inav somewhere? Thanks
Centre your servos then mount the arms as close to 90 as the spline teeth will allow. Doesn't have to be perfect. Then adjust the pushrod lengths to level the control surfaces. You can adjust the servo mid points in the Outputs page but INAV will take care of it if you're in the ballpark.
Hi I have a question My INAV has already responded to the Remote movement but the Servo hasn't I plug the servo wire to the S3 port in my Speedybee F405wing Currently, I only use USB to power the board and the servo Is that the problem for this issue? My remote setting (mixes) is already the same with you I am still waiting for my Battery connector to arrive before can power up the FC and Servo using Battery Thank you so much for your help
Great info, as usual. Wondering if the admonition against using the radio model for rates and expo is a general best practice for fixed wing or specific only to INAV? I set my 1st plane up with dual rates and expo on the model inputs (as I had done on my quads). It's a DSMX AS3X Rx, and I use a Radiomaster TX16S with a 4 in 1 internal module for DSMX. I see guys using Spectrum radios and "Forward Pgming" to set rates, etc., but I don't know if that is changing params in the radio model, the TX or the Rx? And I see the T16S has some forward pgming LUA's but have never tried to use. Appreciate any advice. Thx, and hope you are having better weather than we are in Seattle!
Greetings. The weather is beautiful here in southern Australia at the moment. I was only referring to INAV and flight control boards. Rates and expo in the transmitter are fine for normal model flying with no flight control board. Forward programming is a Spectrum specific feature for setting up receivers from the radio (I think) Not sure about rates and expo with stabilised receivers. Maybe this will help th-cam.com/video/Wq2OpoMILYw/w-d-xo.html
@@AndrewNewton Thank you very much for your reply. I was hoping I wouldn't have to learn any more ecosystems like DSMX, even more so after I watched the video. So now I can proceed with gettting my Swordfish (INAV) and Bigfoot (Vector) ready to fly when the weather improves (in a few months!).
HI Andrew, Is there a reason why, in configurator mixer, you did not select "airplane without rudder" for the X-Bird ? Happy New Year to you and your good lady 🙂
This is great Andrew, thanks. One thing confusing me coming from using gyros such as Hobbyeagles, is there a gain control for stabilisation or is it just on or off?
The PID tuning screen would be similar to your gyro gain pots. But the stock PIDs are usually fine as they are. In the Modes section you can choose all the different stabilisation modes.
Andrew, This video has been a great help. I currently have everything working with the exception of Arming. The motor passed the manual on screen testing. When I Arm I get an error message on my OSD. It says "roll pitch center". From some research I think it refers to centering of the roll and pitch, however I do not know where or how to adjust this. Any input on this issue would be much appreciated. I am using a Speedybee F405 Wing FC and the same version of INAV you used in the video. Thank You Buz
In the receiver page you may have the wrong Channel Map. TAER instead of AETR. Or you may have mixing or channel assigned wrongly in your radio. Which radio and receiver are you using?
I checked again this morning and the left aileron is in channel 3 on the FC, and right aileron is in channel4 on the flight controller. The channel order is AETR as you suggested. I'm using a Tarranis Qx7s and a FrSky XM+ sbus receiver. The error message on the OSD is Roll Pitch not Centered. Does INAV have a list of error messages with definitions?@@AndrewNewton
I finally think I know what is going on. It seems my SF switch is overriding my aileron channel causing it to go low when in the disarmed mode. I think I will start over in the morning and set it up from scratch. Thanks for your help.
I got it! The throttle cut switch was messing with my roll angle prior to arming. So I changed some things around in the channel mapping and all seems to work now. I knew it was something I had done. Good news is I learned a lot along the way. Thanks again for all the help.
Andrew, is iNav more user-friendly for beginners compared to ArduPilot? I'm building my first FPV plane with an F405 Wing V2 board, and I want something that is simple and user friendly for me to get started with.
I've been messing with mine for a week and I've gone through all this step by step. The sticks are moving in both the radio and iNav but no control surfaces or motor movement when I'm finished and connect the flight battery. The receiver is just beeping. I'm using an eflite avian esc, and it has an extra yellow wire, I'm thinking that might be my problem?
Hey there Andrew. Just beginning to integrate my F411 into my flying wing. I've already conversed with you on your subsequent video about my prep. As a recap,,,my wing is flyable and all set. But as I start the conversion,,,I realized that I have to also change (from my PWM RX) to a serial RX (for the F411). I'm good with this change and am ready to do such,,,,but will this cause a problem,,,,,since my wing was made flyable with my PWM RX? I don't see any other choice but wanted to run this by you. I hope my question makes sense. I just have a feeling this will make a difference. But hope not. Thanks so much!
No it won't be a problem. The PWM signals will come from the F411 rather than the receiver now. Just remember not to use the same model setup in the radio. Set up a new INAV model as in the video. The elevon mixing is done by the F411 not the radio now.
Hi,I´m new to inav, from BF i´ve learned to set the rx outputs exactly from 1000 to 2000 via cli rxrange command. Your´s going from 988 to 2011. So is there no need in inav to do like this? And why you setup MSP= on in uart 1? Thanks in advance.
Best practice is to adjust channel limits in the radio so they go from 1000 to 2000 but it doesn't seem to be essential. MSP on UART1 is preset, but you only need it if you damage the USB socket.
Hello Andrew! Excellent video, I would like to answer a question if possible. I'm almost ready to make the first flight using INAV on an airplane, I only did tests with the airplane on the ground and stopped. I noticed that when I'm in manual mode, the control surfaces, elevator, ailerons and rudder, move as much as possible, but when I switch to ACRO, the surfaces move very little, even with the sticks at 100%. Does this happen because I'm at zero speed? Or is something wrong? Thank you very much in advance!
That is normal. Manual gives maximum throws while all other modes have less throw to allow extra movement for stabilisation. If you are concerned the movement is not enough you can increase he FF for roll and pitch in the PID tuning page.
@@AndrewNewton Hello, thank you very much for the answer! I've already increased the FF values to get more command. I needed to do this because I'm going to take off the plane from the runway and when we start accelerating, the plane may deviate from the center of the runway to the left or right, that's when I'll need a lot of rudder control to bring it back to the center. I was worried that the FF close to maximum would be a setting that could interfere with the pid tuning, but from what I understand the FF shows the INAV what is the maximum command that the plane can have in stabilized flight, is that correct? Thanks again for the support!
Roll Rate, Pitch Rate and Yaw Rate, in degrees per second, set the maximum rotation rates. FF sets how much stick movement is passed through to the servos. Set FF so you get about 80% of the full manual throws when in ACRO mode.
@@AndrewNewton Hello! It was exactly what to do! After answering the questions with you here, I reread the documents on GitHub and managed to understand better! Thank you very much!
@@AndrewNewton I would like to answer just one more question if possible, I promise it is the last one! Before taking the first flight I am doing all the tests possible to avoid making mistakes on the big day. And one of these tests is to select autonomous flight modes with the plane stopped (zero speed) to see what happens. I noticed that when the plane is disarmed, no key works, not even the failsafe if i remove the receiver, but when the plane is armed, even at zero speed, when I activate the Return to Home key, the plane does nothing, perhaps because I configured it to ignore RTH if the plane is not 30 meters away, but when I activate Loiter (Position Hold) or Cruise mode the plane starts the engine. The same happens if I remove the receiver to test Failsafe. As the plane is stopped, I wanted to know if is this a normal behavior or if there is any way to tell the inav not to do anything if these switches are activated or if i losst signal (with the plane stoped) Thank you again!
If there is a solder pad on the GPS, you can refer to the accompanying diagram for the F405 GPS output to make the appropriate connections. Connect 5V, GND, TX, Rx, and if available on the GPS, PPS. Andrew has a detailed video explaining the F405 flight control board; you can check that for reference.
I used a matek gps and 5v and ground was next to each other and the speedybee pin out it is not. Just verify that its the same on both otherwise you will have to swap,i am not familiar with the one you are using.@rahadyanmuhammad271
Isn‘t it possible to use subtrim on the radio if i‘m not able to mechanicle trim it 100%? Or does are there Problems later in inav? Because i want to fly in manual mode. Does inav uses the auto trims or the trim from the radio? 😅sorry, builded a few planes but this is the First fpv and with inav..
No, don't use the radio trims. Instead use the Outputs page in INAV configurator for mid point adjustment, also turn on "Continuously trim servos..." in Configuration. For reducing throws reduce the Manual Rates in the PID page - Rates and Expo.
@@AndrewNewton Thank you! I‘ll have a look in a few days. Just recieved my speedy bee f405 wing yesterday !what a cool piece of Hardware! But there is a lot to learn. I came from a flying field with planes and jets, always used Spektrum Receiver/Gyros and a few quads on betaflight and have to get used to it without trim Buttons and the other settings. But your Video helps a lot for the first steps 🙏🏻So you have to fly - land and trim again? Or am I right, that the auto trim is used for the manual flight later?🙈
That "Continuously trim..." setting does it all for you in the air, no need to do anything. Auto trim would also do it too but I never use that. I believe you can also fly in Manual and use the radio trims, then land and enter the resulting mid point values in to INAV and rezero the radio trims if you don't want to use the INAV auto trim functions.
Really nice video! But I'm having some issues... 1st I config the radio as you did but when I move the elevator the ailerons move and when I move the ailerons the elevator moves... what can I do?
@@AndrewNewton I think I just solved it, by default Inav wing it's: Servo 1: stab roll 50% Servo 1: stab pitch 50% Servo 2 : stab roll -50% Servo 2: stab pitch 50% I just swap these two and voilà... have to check if surfaces moves as it should on the different modes but now the sticks works as it should... what do you think?
Hello Andrew, I learned a lot from this video. Can you tell me what is the difference between acro mode and manual mode? Also can you tell me the difference between horizon mode and angle mode? Sincerely
The stock PID's are garbage. Zero to 2 on P. 25 to 30 on I. FF is usually around 20, keep it to where your manual mode deflection is. Both axis. It will fly out of your hand in Acro mode, and will handle wind much better. It will also hold attitude and trim will not change throughout the speed range. The idea that acro mode is just manual with some P term, which a certain dev believes, is silly. Make it a true rate mode so you can use it.
Your videos are fantastic Andrew! You've helped me so much in setting up my fixed wing and making the leap from quads.
Word to the frustrated whose throttle works in INAV, but not with the transmitter; GPS must be able to connect to the satellite (not the FC!) for the motor to be able to arm. If you in a GPS denied environment (e.g. a large building), then you will need to disable it first, or configure it through CLI. You can check what is preventing the arm by typing "status" into the CLI and then seeing the codes - @18:33
Thanks, also have to change Failsafe to Do Nothing if you're not using GPS
Andrew, thanks for this tutorial. It solved a problem that probably kept me from crashing my wing on a maiden. I was trying to do the mixes in my transmitter while I was getting weird reactions from Inav when testing. I was pulling my hair out trying to figuring out why it was doing it! Now I know why! Inav was trying to work around the mixes in the radio that was screwing up the calculus in its controls. I cleared every mix I made (several hours worth) from my transmitter and now everything seems normal. I did all the reversing and changes in the mixer and outputs in Inav like you said -its all good now. Inav seems happy with it. Although at 17:55 you indicated that we could go into the transmitter and fix it-I still went into Inav outputs and did the reversing with (-) and servos until I got the right directions.
Ah yes, INAV rule no 1. No mixing or trims in the radio
I have watch a lot of videos and started my first build and could not for the life of me get the plane to arm. Following this video step by step it did everything it supposed to and worked first time around. Thanks for a great basic setup tutorial
Thanks for the feedback. Great hear it worked
Great easy to follow setup procedure. The timeline chapters also serve as a nice checklist; for first flight, or beginning of new season. BTW: nice portable wing aid (20:15).
I could improve the V shapes but it works well
HUGE ! I needed this two month ago ! but some how my first INAV flight survived but I don't know how ! I just prayed and clicked things for weeks on end lol ! Merry Christmas and happy New Year. Peace on Earth 2024 ! 🙏
Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you too. Happy INAVing
This is how I run INAV very basic as I fly most aircraft without a flight controller, more enjoyable in my opinion to tinker around and get the plane flying perfectly without any assistance 🎉
Thanks for this nice video! I just was about the fly our Discover Model Plane with a new FC, so you made a checklist for me. This is a perfect guide for beginners with the servo arm details!
Many thanks Cemal. Looking forward to checking out the Orca
Thank you for making this excellent video which has really clarified the correct radio setup and how to set up iNAV for a fixed wing plane. Just brilliant.
Thanks, there is probably too much information out there sometimes.
thank you for making this guide
Thanks for the donation. Hope your INAV build is successful
A much-needed video with all the essential settings quickly.
Thanks
Hi Andrew.
This is an awesome tutorial for first time set-up, I've been trying to get my speedy bee wing405 working for months and it turns out it was just my controller Imputs.
I just followed your instructions and bang it's all good to go just like that.
Thank you for making this video, I'd be lost without it. I've watched so many others, and I just got lost and gave up.
So this was a blessing.
Thank you so much.
Merry Christmas, and I hope you have a great new year.
Your a bloody legend 👍 👍
Thanks Ian, your feedback makes me very happy. Just what I was aiming for. Best of luck INAVing
Merry Christmas, Andrew! Warm wishes from Bulgaria.
Same from Australia, have a great day
Thank you Andrew! I think I'm ready to try my 1st INAV setup.
You can do it!
Hi if I use beta fight on a fixed wing what is this transition like to change to use I nav
You will have to tell me. I have never used BF
@@AndrewNewton betaflight is the source code that was forked on GitHub the made inav then inav it's focus has been GPS and sensor prioritised over the smooth responsiveness and control of the quad minimal latency and GPS has been gradually made to work with betaflight as an after thought but now I truly believe we have got to the point where both beta flight and inav should be forked back together again with a massive desire and it would be the most amazing configurator and firmware open source has ever but we would have to all be focussed on it by not allowing world events to get into the development discussions it would have to be a no troll zero tolerance to any agenda other than excellence of the source code
Great video Andrew. Thanks for sharing. Hope your weekend was great, our weather is finally warming up to be nicer flying weather. Have a great week.👍👍👍💯💯💯
Thank you Andrew for this video.
I like the ZOHD Kopilot system but you can't buy it anymore. Looks like i need to go to the INAV system
Nice and calm presentation.
Thank you kindly!
Great video! Thank you very much.
You are welcome!
Greetings, have a great day, happy holidays and thank you for everything.
Thanks and same to you
Great video. Just what I needed. Cheers, mate!
Thanks to you too. Hope your INAV build flies well!
Andrew, outstanding video, you made understanding Inav so simple! Lots of useful information! Thank You!
Mission accomplished! Thanks
Du machst immer hervorragende Vorstellungen!! Herzlichen Dank! Dir und Deiner Fam. Alles Liebeund Gute!
Many thanks and stay safe and healthy
Brilliant Andrew, really helpful having been away from fixed wing for a little while. Much appreciated and I hope you've had a great festive and all set for the New Year!
Hey Nick. I was just showing my Mum and sister some of your stunning videos last night. They were very impressed. Glad the video helped, and have a great New Year.
@@AndrewNewton Very kind words sir, thank you! Just putting together some random clips from this year, standby.
Thank you for making this soooooo simple!
You're so welcome!
Great Video Andrew, Happy New Years and all the best in 2024. Thanks for all you do for our hobby
Happy new year!
Thank you
You're welcome
Thanks!
Many thanks
Brilliant, Thanks Andrew.
No worries!
I really love this series - IMHO it couldn't be more perfectly targeted.
Before the Seriously Dodo flight controller was discontinued, I purchased a few of them directly from RMRC. The Dodo has since been dropped by INAV, presumably because of its small FLASH size. But the extra features that require the extra FLASH aren't relevant to my simple requirements. So I'm trying to find an old version of INAV I can use with the Dodo. Your tutorial is extremely helpful in making this effort work.
Perhaps I should just buy a new FC, but it galls me not to get use out of the perfectly good ones I already have. ;)
Thanks. Try INAV 1.7.3
Merry Christmas, Andrew ⛄⛄🎅🎅❄❄🎄🎄
Same to you!
excellent tutorial - Thank you Sir
You are welcome
Well done! Excellent info.
I still remember when Andrew used to say, many years ago, no need for a fight control board....😂....... Now he's the Aussie king of all things Inav.
Now we need to watch him muddle through Ardupilot. I did try to get them to do a simplified interface, but it's hard to make guys with such a tech background understand why us mortals needed a simple introduction to it. So I just stuck to the graphic art for them.
Ah yes, long time ago. Don't feel safe without INAV on my FPV rigs now. I can use Ardupilot now, after lots of study. Well done on the graphics!
You are a GOD with this video!! Thank you Andrew, greetings from EU Romania! Instantant SUBSCRIBE!
Thanks, I knew it needed to be made
Feliz Natal meu amigo Andrew , Deus abençoe sempre!eu tenho aprendido muito com você o aeromodelismo, estou evoluindo a cada dia, comprei um rádio MasterTX16S muito bom esse rádio!
Nice radio, and Happy Christmas to you
Great video for the noobs Andrew....I like how you deleted the Inputs and created the model directly using the Mixers. I'm going to try that....Less is more...for sure.
Why do we even need Inputs???....🤔🤔🤔😮😏🇬🇧
Thanks ET. Supposed to reduce mixer lines when using expo and rates, but I can get by without Inputs
@@AndrewNewton Oh, that's interesting. Well I never use rates or expo on a Flight Controller with plane or quad....If I'm flying an ordinary plane LOS, then I only use Expo, never rates as well. That's why Expo was invented, no buggering about with rate switches..!!!!....🤔😳😏😀🇬🇧
Hello and thanks for sharing! First of all - I'm new in iNav. Could you tell me please, if I'm installing a FC on a single aileron servo/single flap servo aircraft (using Y-harness cable), how to set it up in iNav, because there are two aileron servos on two separate channels and no flap servo in the presets? Thank you!
P.s. using Spektrum SRXL2 receiver, if that matters.
It would be great if you have the will and time to make a video of how to set up iNav for standard aircraft with flaps and gear; flap-elevator mix etc. I'm coming from LOS flying, and I'm sure that there are a lot of people like me - familiar with LOS flying and programming, but absolutely iNav/FPV newbies. And I can assure you that this number of people will grow up exponentially:)
Greetings and many thanks for the donation. Ailerons and flaps on Y-Leads are no problem. Plug the aileron Y-lead into S3 and set the INAV Mixer line for Servo1 to be "Stabilised Roll" then plug Flaps Y-lead in to S4 and change the Input to be "RC Channel x" where x is your flaps channel in the radio
I have a few INAV flaps videos www.youtube.com/@AndrewNewton/search?query=inav%20flaps
@@AndrewNewton thank you for your reply! I knew I should have done better research on your channel...:D
@@emiliyanmartinov Ha! Not a problem. Good luck and feel free to ask any questions along the way.
Very good video thx! Only one thing I am not sure about is at 18:00 you said reverse the channels in the radio. I think it is not good, because if you reverse them, how to use stick commands? Thx!
Only if the radio outputs move the wrong way (looking at the INAV receiver page graphs). Stick commands would not work if the outputs were going the wrong way.
Andrew,,,I hope you don’t tire of all my questions. But another detail (for understanding iNAV). I now fully understand your choice of angle and manual flight modes on a three position switch (leaving acro to be accessed when the switch is in off position). The question is for the Navigation modes. You like RTH on a two position switch. When this RTH switch is selected (on),,,does this mode override the flight mode selected by the three position switch (and fly in a default flight mode per iNAV’s inherent choice)? {and I guess this same sort of result happens regardless of which Navigation mode is selected per set up switch}. Thank you.
No problem, you ask good questions Marty. RTH overrides all other modes because that's the panic mode for lost video or RC link, then Manual overrides all but RTH. All the Nav modes use Angle automatically.
Thanks again for your time and passion. I am very near a maiden and excited to once again give it a try. My first try was a good 3 years ago and was a total failure. Looking back,,,it was a terrible airframe choice on my part. Plus, your “Simplified” setup method of late last year (2023) had not been published:-). I will let you know how the first flight turns out,,,of which I am very confident.
I missed in this video clip how the servos are connected to the flight controller. And which servo is connected to which slot.
Specifically, if the model has 2 aileron servos, which slot is the first aileron servo connected to and which slot is the second aileron servo connected to?
Mixer chapter
Merry Christmas to you and your family🎄 (...or Merry Christmasday? I don't know the right term for Australia)😅
Merry Christmas to you too. (That's correct)
It is very useful vid. This will serve as a guideline for me and my future builds
Glad to hear!
Andrew does a great job without being superfluous in an already confusing situation.
nice one Andrew first time ive seen a video to make me feel confidant enough to actually set one up many thanks. P.s. your elevator goes up when tail goes up not sure about that one ??
That's what I want to hear. Good luck and let me know how you go.
Hey Andrew, always love the videos 💪 I was trying to follow this for my Phoenix 759-2, ELRS, inav and f411-wte but having trouble with the flaps. Any tips or could you make a video?
I have done 3 INAV flaps videos
Thank you excellent information.
Glad it was helpful!
INAV 7.0 is out as of December 2023. some changes from this version.
7 has VTOL, but I'll wait a while before switching
Andrew...thank you for sharing this information. Question about NAV RTH;FAILSAFE, noticed you only setup Nav RTH. Is there a reason why you didn't setup Failsafe in the Modes? Thank you in advance.
You don't set failsafe as a Mode. That would only be for testing.
Are you be able to use elevator trim to set the neutral angle for angle mode?
No, do not use radio trims with INAV. You need use the Fixed Wing Level Trim (PIDS>Mechanics) to get level flight in Angle. I always start with +4 degrees.
Thanks for the instructions. I'm setting up my first FB, the SpeedyBee F405 Wing, my receiver is FrSky X8 and my radio is Radiomaster TX16S. The switches I assigned work well as well as the GPS. But with no inputs in my radio, there is no movement of ailerons, elevator, throttle and rudder. If I add the inputs in my radio, the controls work. How can your controls work without inputs?
What did you choose as the Sources in the mixer page?
@@AndrewNewton Oh, yes. Now I get it 🙂. Thanks for the hint!
Clever man Vlad. You should be OK now
Hi Andrew there is one thing I can’t seem to find with fixed wing set up. I can’t get my servo horns fitted very close to 90 degrees, is it done in inav somewhere?
Thanks
Centre your servos then mount the arms as close to 90 as the spline teeth will allow. Doesn't have to be perfect. Then adjust the pushrod lengths to level the control surfaces. You can adjust the servo mid points in the Outputs page but INAV will take care of it if you're in the ballpark.
Hi I have a question
My INAV has already responded to the Remote movement but the Servo hasn't
I plug the servo wire to the S3 port in my Speedybee F405wing
Currently, I only use USB to power the board and the servo
Is that the problem for this issue?
My remote setting (mixes) is already the same with you
I am still waiting for my Battery connector to arrive before can power up the FC and Servo using Battery
Thank you so much for your help
USB only powers the 4V5 pins
Great info, as usual. Wondering if the admonition against using the radio model for rates and expo is a general best practice for fixed wing or specific only to INAV? I set my 1st plane up with dual rates and expo on the model inputs (as I had done on my quads). It's a DSMX AS3X Rx, and I use a Radiomaster TX16S with a 4 in 1 internal module for DSMX. I see guys using Spectrum radios and "Forward Pgming" to set rates, etc., but I don't know if that is changing params in the radio model, the TX or the Rx? And I see the T16S has some forward pgming LUA's but have never tried to use. Appreciate any advice. Thx, and hope you are having better weather than we are in Seattle!
Greetings. The weather is beautiful here in southern Australia at the moment. I was only referring to INAV and flight control boards. Rates and expo in the transmitter are fine for normal model flying with no flight control board. Forward programming is a Spectrum specific feature for setting up receivers from the radio (I think) Not sure about rates and expo with stabilised receivers. Maybe this will help th-cam.com/video/Wq2OpoMILYw/w-d-xo.html
@@AndrewNewton Thank you very much for your reply. I was hoping I wouldn't have to learn any more ecosystems like DSMX, even more so after I watched the video. So now I can proceed with gettting my Swordfish (INAV) and Bigfoot (Vector) ready to fly when the weather improves (in a few months!).
HI Andrew, Is there a reason why, in configurator mixer, you did not select "airplane without rudder" for the X-Bird ? Happy New Year to you and your good lady 🙂
Thanks Steve. No reason, don't know if there is any difference if you don't have a rudder.
Hi! How do you set inav so that when the model loses radio signal it stays armed and returns home?
That is covered in the video. Look for Failsafe
This is great Andrew, thanks. One thing confusing me coming from using gyros such as Hobbyeagles, is there a gain control for stabilisation or is it just on or off?
The PID tuning screen would be similar to your gyro gain pots. But the stock PIDs are usually fine as they are. In the Modes section you can choose all the different stabilisation modes.
Andrew, This video has been a great help. I currently have everything working with the exception of Arming. The motor passed the manual on screen testing. When I Arm I get an error message on my OSD. It says "roll pitch center". From some research I think it refers to centering of the roll and pitch, however I do not know where or how to adjust this. Any input on this issue would be much appreciated. I am using a Speedybee F405 Wing FC and the same version of INAV you used in the video. Thank You Buz
In the receiver page you may have the wrong Channel Map. TAER instead of AETR. Or you may have mixing or channel assigned wrongly in your radio. Which radio and receiver are you using?
I checked again this morning and the left aileron is in channel 3 on the FC, and right aileron is in channel4 on the flight controller. The channel order is AETR as you suggested. I'm using a Tarranis Qx7s and a FrSky XM+ sbus receiver.
The error message on the OSD is Roll Pitch not Centered. Does INAV have a list of error messages with definitions?@@AndrewNewton
Receiver page should look like this pic www.youtube.com/@AndrewNewton/community. Do you have elevon mixing in your radio or is it on Mode 1?
I finally think I know what is going on. It seems my SF switch is overriding my aileron channel causing it to go low when in the disarmed mode. I think I will start over in the morning and set it up from scratch. Thanks for your help.
I got it! The throttle cut switch was messing with my roll angle prior to arming. So I changed some things around in the channel mapping and all seems to work now. I knew it was something I had done. Good news is I learned a lot along the way. Thanks again for all the help.
Andrew, is iNav more user-friendly for beginners compared to ArduPilot? I'm building my first FPV plane with an F405 Wing V2 board, and I want something that is simple and user friendly for me to get started with.
Yes much easier to get in to. Look at my Ardupilot videos to see how difficult it is.
@@AndrewNewton Thank you, Andrew! I'll check those out.
I've been messing with mine for a week and I've gone through all this step by step.
The sticks are moving in both the radio and iNav but no control surfaces or motor movement when I'm finished and connect the flight battery.
The receiver is just beeping. I'm using an eflite avian esc, and it has an extra yellow wire, I'm thinking that might be my problem?
Could be the esc is too "smart" Try just connecting the ground and signal wires. Possibly need to calibrate the esc using INAV configurator.
Thanks Andrew I'm giving that a go 👍
Hey there Andrew. Just beginning to integrate my F411 into my flying wing. I've already conversed with you on your subsequent video about my prep. As a recap,,,my wing is flyable and all set. But as I start the conversion,,,I realized that I have to also change (from my PWM RX) to a serial RX (for the F411). I'm good with this change and am ready to do such,,,,but will this cause a problem,,,,,since my wing was made flyable with my PWM RX? I don't see any other choice but wanted to run this by you. I hope my question makes sense. I just have a feeling this will make a difference. But hope not. Thanks so much!
No it won't be a problem. The PWM signals will come from the F411 rather than the receiver now. Just remember not to use the same model setup in the radio. Set up a new INAV model as in the video. The elevon mixing is done by the F411 not the radio now.
Hi,I´m new to inav, from BF i´ve learned to set the rx outputs exactly from 1000 to 2000 via cli rxrange command. Your´s going from 988 to 2011. So is there no need in inav to do like this?
And why you setup MSP= on in uart 1? Thanks in advance.
Best practice is to adjust channel limits in the radio so they go from 1000 to 2000 but it doesn't seem to be essential. MSP on UART1 is preset, but you only need it if you damage the USB socket.
@@AndrewNewton , thanks alot.
Ok nice .but sir for speedy f405 I want same configuration setting..do you have a video
I have a basic connections video for the SpeedyBee
Hello Andrew! Excellent video, I would like to answer a question if possible. I'm almost ready to make the first flight using INAV on an airplane, I only did tests with the airplane on the ground and stopped. I noticed that when I'm in manual mode, the control surfaces, elevator, ailerons and rudder, move as much as possible, but when I switch to ACRO, the surfaces move very little, even with the sticks at 100%. Does this happen because I'm at zero speed? Or is something wrong? Thank you very much in advance!
That is normal. Manual gives maximum throws while all other modes have less throw to allow extra movement for stabilisation. If you are concerned the movement is not enough you can increase he FF for roll and pitch in the PID tuning page.
@@AndrewNewton Hello, thank you very much for the answer! I've already increased the FF values to get more command. I needed to do this because I'm going to take off the plane from the runway and when we start accelerating, the plane may deviate from the center of the runway to the left or right, that's when I'll need a lot of rudder control to bring it back to the center. I was worried that the FF close to maximum would be a setting that could interfere with the pid tuning, but from what I understand the FF shows the INAV what is the maximum command that the plane can have in stabilized flight, is that correct? Thanks again for the support!
Roll Rate, Pitch Rate and Yaw Rate, in degrees per second, set the maximum rotation rates. FF sets how much stick movement is passed through to the servos. Set FF so you get about 80% of the full manual throws when in ACRO mode.
@@AndrewNewton Hello! It was exactly what to do! After answering the questions with you here, I reread the documents on GitHub and managed to understand better! Thank you very much!
@@AndrewNewton I would like to answer just one more question if possible, I promise it is the last one! Before taking the first flight I am doing all the tests possible to avoid making mistakes on the big day. And one of these tests is to select autonomous flight modes with the plane stopped (zero speed) to see what happens. I noticed that when the plane is disarmed, no key works, not even the failsafe if i remove the receiver, but when the plane is armed, even at zero speed, when I activate the Return to Home key, the plane does nothing, perhaps because I configured it to ignore RTH if the plane is not 30 meters away, but when I activate Loiter (Position Hold) or Cruise mode the plane starts the engine. The same happens if I remove the receiver to test Failsafe. As the plane is stopped, I wanted to know if is this a normal behavior or if there is any way to tell the inav not to do anything if these switches are activated or if i losst signal (with the plane stoped) Thank you again!
Hi, in Speedybee F405 Wing there is JST socket for GPS. Then, in what UART the GPS will be if I connect in that socket?
If there is a solder pad on the GPS, you can refer to the accompanying diagram for the F405 GPS output to make the appropriate connections. Connect 5V, GND, TX, Rx, and if available on the GPS, PPS. Andrew has a detailed video explaining the F405 flight control board; you can check that for reference.
For the speedybee f405 wing mine is uart3, I did have to redo some of the cables since the gps pin layout does not match the port layout on the FC
@@DawidJacobs-e3d Hi
What cable that has differrent lay out?my GPS is Walksnail M181
I used a matek gps and 5v and ground was next to each other and the speedybee pin out it is not. Just verify that its the same on both otherwise you will have to swap,i am not familiar with the one you are using.@rahadyanmuhammad271
Isn‘t it possible to use subtrim on the radio if i‘m not able to mechanicle trim it 100%? Or does are there Problems later in inav? Because i want to fly in manual mode. Does inav uses the auto trims or the trim from the radio? 😅sorry, builded a few planes but this is the First fpv and with inav..
No, don't use the radio trims. Instead use the Outputs page in INAV configurator for mid point adjustment, also turn on "Continuously trim servos..." in Configuration. For reducing throws reduce the Manual Rates in the PID page - Rates and Expo.
This is a good question, I will make a video some day
@@AndrewNewton Thank you! I‘ll have a look in a few days. Just recieved my speedy bee f405 wing yesterday !what a cool piece of Hardware! But there is a lot to learn. I came from a flying field with planes and jets, always used Spektrum Receiver/Gyros and a few quads on betaflight and have to get used to it without trim Buttons and the other settings. But your Video helps a lot for the first steps 🙏🏻So you have to fly - land and trim again? Or am I right, that the auto trim is used for the manual flight later?🙈
That "Continuously trim..." setting does it all for you in the air, no need to do anything. Auto trim would also do it too but I never use that. I believe you can also fly in Manual and use the radio trims, then land and enter the resulting mid point values in to INAV and rezero the radio trims if you don't want to use the INAV auto trim functions.
@@AndrewNewtonSounds really simple 🎉If it works, I‘ll use c. Trim of course! Less work for me 😅thank you ❤
Your channel map doesn't need to be (ATER) because all mine are (TAER) and it works perfectly.
Of course, there are many thing that can be different to my simple setup
Hi, can you possibly explain to me why half the servos don't work in my FC Matek? It reads them on INAV but they don't work
Which Matek?
@@AndrewNewtonmatek 405 v2
Really nice video! But I'm having some issues... 1st I config the radio as you did but when I move the elevator the ailerons move and when I move the ailerons the elevator moves... what can I do?
Probably plugged them in to the wrong pins. Which board and which plane?
I'm using the speedybee f405 wing and I'm setting up the CK840mm wing, I swapped servos to see if was that but nothing...
@@AndrewNewton I think I just solved it, by default Inav wing it's:
Servo 1: stab roll 50%
Servo 1: stab pitch 50%
Servo 2 : stab roll -50%
Servo 2: stab pitch 50%
I just swap these two and voilà... have to check if surfaces moves as it should on the different modes but now the sticks works as it should... what do you think?
Yes well done. Just have to play with the +50 and -50 weights until they move the right way.
@@AndrewNewton thanks, you are the best!! Keep going like that 😎
Happy Holidays to you and yours Andrew....😊
Happy holidays!
Excellent subject…
Thank you!
Hello Andrew,
I learned a lot from this video.
Can you tell me what is the difference between acro mode and manual mode?
Also can you tell me the difference between horizon mode and angle mode?
Sincerely
Thanks, modes explained inavfixedwinggroup.com/guides/getting-started/inav-modes-guide/
@@AndrewNewton This is exactly what I needed. By any chance would you have the same thing for the radiomaster boxer?
Thank you very much Andrew
@@BigbadlyLickedbearThe setup in the boxer is the same as is shown on the Zorro.
what about airspeed sensor, does it have benefit in INAV
Only for seeing the Airspeed in the OSD
Why does the new one have timer outputs?
INAV devs thought it was a good idea. Can now easily change motor outputs to servos and vice versa.
@AndrewNewton that confused the hell outta me. I haven't used Inav in a year and it seems like evertime I get on it I need to relearn everything.
hi, did you put any ESC?
Yes, plugged in to S1
@@AndrewNewton which type of esc did you use?
Turnigy Plush 30A
@@AndrewNewton thank you so much for your time!!
The stock PID's are garbage. Zero to 2 on P. 25 to 30 on I. FF is usually around 20, keep it to where your manual mode deflection is. Both axis. It will fly out of your hand in Acro mode, and will handle wind much better. It will also hold attitude and trim will not change throughout the speed range. The idea that acro mode is just manual with some P term, which a certain dev believes, is silly. Make it a true rate mode so you can use it.
Thanks, worth testing your suggestions but not in this series.
Thanks!
Thanks mate