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Hello guys! This is basically a re-upload of the last video which got taken down for copyright. Had to trim out some segments so that wouldn't happen happen again. Hopefully it doesn't happen once more but just wanted to explain why this video is up but with few sections cut out.
@Dear Sputnik Same!
I wondered where it went! Then it popped up again! Thank you for making these videos 🧡💛❤️
Hello! DId you saw the news today? Will there be a commentary video? How come you did not commentary the decision immidietly after it came out hahaha?
sorry this is happening your sport (I don't much about figure skating but we all understand general integrity no matter what sport you play) it's unfortunate there are idiots that some how been given authority in figure skating that make these dumbass decisions
@Dear Sputnik MOA 💙
"Athlete who violates doping cannot compete in the game. This principle must be observed without exception. All players' efforts and dreams are equally precious." Yuna said the right words in the right moment.
An SO LU TELY
Absolutely. Proud of her for speaking up ❤️
Sorry it doesnt work that way anymore.
Blame WADA , they failed with terms. Info about dose must be before EC. P.S.What's about presumption of innocence?
@@bobababy6089 it didn't work many years ago.
If a protected person is deemed incapable of understanding the ramifications of breaking the rules and, as a child, is too vulnerable to be appropriately penalised for it then surely the rules themselves have just admitted that protected persons are too young and vulnerable to compete in adult sports? Not allowing athletes to compete as seniors until they are actually seniors in terms of age seems to me to be the easiest and safest way to prevent a mess like this happening again, both for the protection of future athletes and for the integrity of the sport. Adults should not be allowed to drag children into situations they cannot cope with merely for a few medals and a pay check.
That´s exactly what has to happen, also to protect the girls from training methods like those of Team Tutberidze which leave them with broken bodies at the age of 18, never to return again.
Exactly. Next ISU conference HAD BETTER RAISE THE AGE
Letting her compete has only generated displeasure and mistrust from people, especially because this decision doesn't punish those responsible at all but harms other competitors
I think it's the opposite. Until more facts are given she could be proven innocent, but the fact she carries this burden will be a handicap on her side. They are just letting her compete, that's all, no medals will be awarded.
@@Rita-lo8vw but that means everyone else gets punished because her test was positive. Around 20 people won't get their Olympic moment on the podium and medal ceremony because of that decision. That's not good enough. The only person who should be inconvenienced is her.
@@lindatannock Also agree.
Eteri's team is killing the sport , the competion is tainted it does not matter who wins anymore
That's the understatement of the century. Figure skating as a sport is totally FUBAR.
True
This whole scandal has left a sick feeling in my stomach. I was so ready to root for Kamila but now I don't know if I even want to watch it anymore. The more information I find out about what's going on, the more angry I become. First, I'm very sympathetic towards Kamila and part of me wants her to win but not under these circumstances. I think she is a great skater and possibly the best but how much of it was due to doping. RUSADA did not label the urine sample that they sent to the lab as high priority which tells me they knew something to further delay the results. The doctor that Eteri has on staff is Chvetsky who is a known doping physician who has caused several athletes in the past to be banned due to doping. Making exceptions to rules and regulations because she's a minor is asinine and further destroys all integrity of the Olympics. Maybe now the ISU can raise the age of ladies figure skating to 18 so there's no more exception and that neverending conveyer belt of young girls in Russia aren't abused otherwise this will continue indefinitely. How many other girls in Russia could not compete because against Eteri's camp because they didn't dope or had elevated scores by corrupt judges? I watched the Russian championships and saw a lot of great skaters that would be #1 in the US or Canada but could only make the top 10 because of the corruption.
does it make any sense to you? Russians are not stupid, they obviously new that drugs going to be discovered sooner or later. And especially with current situation involving Russia and Ukraine, where Russia accused to be a threat to Ukraine. it doesn't seems they needed another scandal
Are really believe that nonsense reason about that dose from CR? It's even more stupid than Omicron reason.
But eteri wins international competitions as well as russian ones, so she's obviously a great coach, the best by far
@@xboxgamerhr Eteri monopolizes all young talented girls in Russia then Russian federation pays corrupt judges to over score her students. She also mentally and physically abuses young girls and give them drug cocktails. She is the worst.
@@xboxgamerhr her techniques for winning all require extremely light, teen bodies. This is why she dominates for the women's field but not the men's. The techniques are all wrong and basically all of her skaters retire before 18. She's also extremely abusive in weight control, causing many of her skaters to become anorexic. So many of her skaters leave and also come back, which is common in an abusive relationship. To top it off, all of her skaters are way to young, it's basically child abuse.
No fifteen year old will ever challenge or defy a strong coach or teacher. Neither will a sixteen year old or eighteen year old! Grown women sue for sexual harassment if their boss says or does something because of the uneven power dynamic. This is a much more extreme uneven power dynamic.
The field of figure skating will never be the same. Eteri Tuberidze's girls are damaged goods and she has contributed to their downfall! including Valieva!
😪😭😭
This doping incident didn't just apply to figure skating but to other winter sporting as well. Russia wants their athletes to perform bigger and better regardless of their ever practicing. And in America, marijuana cannot be listed as 'medicinal' without knowing even further about this substance. The same is with ivermectin being used to treat 'COVID-19" without understanding the risk of it posing to humans when it was previously made to treat parasites in horses. Now, I am sure there has been some doping incident on American soil without us even knowing anything about it. But we can't always be in complete control of whatever happens to Kamila Valieva because she's been through so much, since the glaring reminder of the incident in Sochi 2014 starts to rear its ugly head. If she wins, she wins. `If she loses, she lose. Nobody is going to go home crying because of what happened to Kamila. It's only going to be what happens to Russia.
@@annecohen8927 The field of figure skating has been revolutionized, especially within the field of female skaters. Due in part to Eteri's quad squad of youthful jumping phenoms. including Trusova, Valieva and Scherbakova. And this doping scandal is centered entirely on one the most talented female skaters to date, Kamila valieva. Now her life will forever be changed and connected to this controversy.
We all should be feeling for Kamilla but what about other team members, other sportsmen etc. who will have to compete with a sportsman with a positive doping test? Its such a disgrace and disrepespect. Im russian but I dislike what is going on. If she or her coaches respect Olympic movement and clean sport she should have withdraw. The coverage she receives due to her violation is immense. What about Trusova, who jumps quads for years? Its seems she is not there at all. I really hope ISU will raise the age to 17-18
I think 16 would be an appropriate age.
I, too, would prefer her to withdraw. Not only for the other skaters but also for her own health. It ist too much pressure for a teenager. After all this she just needs therapy.
@@acupofval7119 nestáhne.
Rusky jsou v soutěžích jen do 17 let.
To nikdy nebudou legendy jako Fleming, Strhrutwolf, Edmonds, Kim, Asada, Kostner..., které by dokázaly podávat výkony do 31 let a .. déle.
V 17 letech jsou všechny v důchodu a ...slehne se po nich zem. Eteri tam vyžene dalších dvacet 13ti letých děvčátek.
Prostě stanovit věkovou hranici 17!!
Sice nebudou ty čtyřkolky, ale přibude hodně zdravých sportovkyň, které nebudou zničené na těle i duši 🙏
I wouldn't call myself a fan but seeing all these nasty comments about a 15 year old girl makes me want to root for her.
The 15 year old is a victim, her coach and team should be the ones suffering the consequences, not her. She’s a child and doesn’t deserve all this hate, but I do think that she shouldn’t be allowed to compete, it gives the wrong message and it’s unfair to other girls on her team
I'm not seeing a lot of hate towards her. Most of the hate I'm seeing is for the team/adults around her. Yes, there's the odd hating troll, but for the most part people aren't blaming her or hating on her personally.
@@lindatannock you literally said “she is the only one who should be inconvenienced”, 100% not hating on her, the girl that wasn’t even proven guilty yea
@@aidafuentesv”victim” please. The girls in eteris rink are fearless competitors who have dedicated their whole lives to figure skating and nothing else. Everyone in Russia knows the type of coach eteri is. One that creates disposable athletes and takes advantage of her influence in the ISU to overscore her skaters. Kamila knew this and decided to stay with eteri. This girl is not innocent and was doing everything in her power to win. If she hadn’t gotten caught she would have walked away with her gold medal and slept easy knowing she cheated. She absolutely knew and partook in this doping. You think eteri would drug her behind her back? That’s actually illegal. The fact that kamila and her mother tried to release a statement to cover up the story saying she got it from sharing a cup with her grandfather? Pathetic excuse. A 16 year old can drive in most countries. Just because she is legally a minor doesn’t mean she’s brain dead and a helpless infant.
If Valieva changes coach/club than people will slowly stop associating her with the doping incident. But if she remains with them, especially considering their team doctor was sanctioned before for doping, it's normal to continue to question about it.
I think she's going to retire after the Olympics. It is fortunately that they allowed her to compete - at least she'll have the memory of competing in the Olympics. She is standing holding up now, but I think she'll be an emotional wreck once she returns to Russia.
She is already emotionally wrecked 😭. So sad.
@@Rita-lo8vw if she gets through this, I think she will still skate tbh. Even in her interview, she said she still wants to compete in the olympics despite all this. Also she has a lot of support from russia/russian skaters, so i think she will continue. Ofc the international scene sees her different now
@@marieimperial9553 to be honest her career is already ruined because of this. I just hope she doesn't stop skating if she is proven guilty and disqualified.
She is not retiring, she is back to her training 💫
Where is the petition to hold those who break rules, regardless of how they happen, ACCOUNTABLE?
A petition would be great. Especially a petition from the other skaters.
Those who broke their own rules are actually the World Anti Doping Agency. Kamila Valieva was cleared to participate at the Beijing Olympics because the positive result for a trace of a heart medication from her sample submitted to WADA's ITA laboratory in Sweden on the 25th of December 2021 was communicated only on the 8th of February 2022 conveniently timed to coincide with the Gold Medal Award Ceremony for the Russian team for maximum media exposure. That is 45 days later and a whopping 25 days later than the 20 day deadline set by the same WADA regulations for the test result to be received and communicated. The positive test result had therefore to be discarded since in those 45 days it could have easily been tempered with and contaminated to show a positive test result. So, for all intents and purposes, Kamila Valieva is totally clean from banned substances since all of her previous and later doping test results including at the Beijing Olympics retuned a NEGATIVE test result from the same ITA Swedish Testing Laboratory. What's more suspicious is the fact that the same WADA Swedish Testing Laboratory handed a NEGATIVE test result of Kamila Valieva's January 2022 sample which qualified the athlete to participate at the Beijing Olympics, weeks before the Positive test result of December 25th 2021! This clearly points to a frame-up and a thorough investigation into this issue should be carried out and if any WADA officials are found to be trying to destroy a 15 year old girl psychologically by tarnishing her reputation to tarnish the reputation of her country for political purposes they must to be held criminally accountable.
@@diomedecassar2244 Your entire argument is worthless now that Kamilas family says she drank from her grandfathers cup and became contaminated with TMZ. They're not even denying a positive test this is your idea. What do you think about that?
I feel there hasn't been enough time to investigate what really happened and it's been alot of assumptions. The assumption that because she is Russian she is doping. Without having any time to prepare for such a legalities. Shame on alot of people who sensationalized this beyond measure. She is negative on the doping tests at the olympics! But everyone is ignoring that!
And really did they only find a trace of the drug in her blood. They maybe it's true she got it from her grandfather
The adults is this situation are to blame and I find it really disgusting that a 15 year old is put through something like this.
Doped? No Gold. It’s as simple as that. Russia (oh sorry I mean ROC) ..needs to be held accountable.
this whole thing is honestly making me wonder what's the point in being a fan of this sport if it's rigged from the beginning???
I only watched the first minute of this video when it was initially uploaded just to come back and want to finish it and it was gone 😂😂 I genuinely thought I had imagined watching it and that I was going crazy lol
Omg same 😂
I think the weirdest thing about this is that everyone is only pointing fingers at valieva because she was the one caught doping. But like...trusova and sherbakova have the same trainers, the same people surrounding them and likely the same doctors. If one is doped, how likely is it that the other 2 weren't doping at some point? They are all minors. When Eteri says take this, they will not say no. Maybe they should just test the russian athletes once monthly at a random day to avoid them doping all togheter.
my heart bleeds for the other skaters. imagine climbing a mountain you can't climb and THEN they let them skate. its so sad and it should be unacceptable but people look the other way and is okaying doping anyone under 16 and could still skate :((
Right? I feel for japan and us skaters. They did their best for a medal they wouldnt be receiving anytime soon
The other skaters are far away from the other two Russian girls, let’s take Kamila out of the equation, still the rest of the skaters would never win.
are you kidding? no one is even close to Russian figure skaters
@@soyaaa_4385Russian cheaters. Kamila has the worst jumping technique I’ve ever seen in figure skating. Just look at her now and her recent skating. It’s terrible. She gained weight and can no long net jump. She just throws herself around the ice. The only reason she’s still competing domestically is to prove she wasn’t a one hit wonder. She rose and flopped harder than any eteri girl ever
I really hope Team USA and Japan and also the rest of the contestants make some type of protest. This is extremely unfair and I beg to god for something to change for good ONCE. I hope this also helps to raise the minimun age to 17 or 18 instead of 15.
The US have already released a statement.
I miss the 5 minutes when we thought Nikita was getting baked
Thank you for re-uploading! Due to personal reasons I missed the competition up until the ice dance event and had to watch the replays of the team and men's events to get caught up (I stayed spoiler free). I wanted to watch the video after I was caught up and was devastated to see it got taken down.
Been bugging all my friends with figure skating and need an outlet, so excuse the long comment.
WHAT A RIDE. I thought I was prepared. But BOY was I wrong.
Karen frickin carried Team USA. She frickin carried. You can @ me on this. She pulled through. (I am biased because I think she's pretty and I'm a sucker for her spins and spirals)
And what a tragedy! Vincent Zhou. His "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" Program was so good. He was in such good shape. My heart broke for him.
And the SUSPENSE in the men's free? Can we talk about how good the Japanese men were? Yes, Yuzuru didn't medal, I cried. The others are deserving though, so I have no reason to be mad about it. He is still the figure skater of the century. Someone like him is eternal. Like Yuna Kim and Tessa and Scott.
Ice Dance went as expected, I was pretty surprised that their Daft Punk Free Dance got such high scores from the judges, it was so...out there. (Also, s/o to the nepo-babies from ROC)
The Ladies tomorrow have me hanging by the edge of my seat. I'm pretty sure Trusova is either going to pull through or literally break her legs trying. This woman is DETERMINED. The scandal around Valieva was...nerve-wrecking and I share your opinion.
I'm not American so the commentary in my country is different from yours and boy, some of the opinions of the male commentator are ~spicy~. Most of the time I agree with his opinion (he clearly recognises talent and gives credit where credit is due) but especially his opinion about the Japanese ladies was...idk. There's nothing specific he said it's just a weird vibe I'm picking up. He was a huge fan of the Japanese men and Nathan Chen so I don't think it's a racism issue. Maybe their skating is just not his taste, idk. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. I am stressed tf out, can you tell?!
And I've noticed a HUGE difference in attitude when it comes to advancements in sports compared to other disciplines. For example in Snowboard Half-Pipe, the jumps and tricks have evolved IMMENSELY over the last 4 years. A reason why Shaun White didn't medal this time. But instead of complaining about it and talking about restricting new tricks or techniques (like...no quads in the short for ladies) they were celebrating the new styles and evolution of the sport. And some of the athletes were 16-18 as well. And no one was bashing a 16 year old who fairly qualified for the Olympics for "robbing" someone just because they could do things others couldn't. 😬❤
And now Kamila is allowed compete… Honestly, do they think it will be fun for us watching an athlete win 🥇 with a positive doping test? Obviously, her coaches are to blame, but she still has the drugs in her system. I hope Eteri’s camp will be held accountable.
The drug used by Camila does not affect her sports skills - infirm yourself more. Jealousy and pettiness won't bring the athletes their gold medals. Camila is the best skater in the world and you all now can only be jealous. I'm disgusted by all the comments here. Cami❤️
@@laurav5140 It does affect her skills. Trimetazidine makes your heart better at pumping blood to the rest of your body, which delivers more oxygen to the body's muscles. Figure skating is a sport where you often see skaters tired at the end of their programs. More oxygen to the blood would make you less tired, so that you will have a higher chance of nailing those hard jumps at the end. Even if she doesn’t use the drug at the Olympics, having used it in practice will still give her an advantage, since it would have allowed her to practice more.
@@laurav5140 The drug increases blood flow to the heart which can improve physical efficiency. In other words, when taken, it can improve her endurance. Even if she took it months ago, using this during practice would grant her an advantage. There’s a reason it’s banned both in and out of competition. There’s no jealousy involved. These are purely the facts.
Inform yourself more. No medals will be awarded for now, they only lift the suspension and are letting her compete since there was no time for a proper investigation and some facts don't really add up.
The drugs aren't still in her system. She's tested negative at Oly's, however.....it doesn't matter. A positive test is a positive test. Athletes aren't allowed to dope at any point in the year. Ever.
Despite all of this happening, I am very proud of Lindsay van Zundert and hope she will skate good enough to qualify for the FS. She is the first Dutch figure skater at the Olympics since the 1976 games when Dianne de Leeuw won silver for The Netherlands. Go Lindsay!
And she did! 😁
@@ThePunkerica Omg yes she did it. So proud of her. Can't wait to see her in the FS.
Oh, congrats! That's great achievement for Netherlands! ✌️✨
as much as it would've broken my heart for kamila to not be allowed to compete since this is the fault of the adults around her and not her... i'm afraid of what precedent this is setting. are teams going to just dope minors because they know they can get away with it? won't that put minors in an even more vulnerable position than they are already in? i just want these literal children to be safe while they pursue their dreams
Let's hope they raise the minimum age for athletes in the future, it's the easiest way to stop any kind of abuse from the coaches.
What bothers me the most is probably the way that the US media is leaving a lot of important details about the case in order to make Kamila look worse. She is 15, they should be dragging her coach and doctor, not her. For information about the case, I suggest reading from official sources, not just reading from US media outlets, who are clearly biased against Russia.
we 👏 need 👏 a 👏 new 👏 video 👏 commenting 👏 the 👏 decision
Figure Skating is a joke and no longer a sport in my eyes.
-signed, a skater (fired my coach and withdrew from from all comp assignments for the rest of the year/my life) and FORMER super fan.
Genuinely I think minors shouldn't compete like somethings gotta give so maybe raise the ages. its just so frustrating and its so wrong to put a minor in this situation. the training of children is so intense are they even having a childhood? is that what the olympics is about? Children ruining their bodies, minds for a medal?
Poor management...Whomever was in charge of getting all the roids , banned drugs and substances flushed out of her body was fired and on their way to Siberia by now
And ladies is not going to end either lol. They’re letting Valieva compete but won’t give any medals if she places until all the appeals are over.
They did effectively name her bc it came out that it was a minor athlete on the ROC OGM FS team. Valieva is the only minor sooooo….
So Trusova for gold???
nour, kamila is still competing and twitter is a mess
Nope Kamila is back in the IOC decided to let her compete .
@@KellyeR1970 yeah but if she win, they won’t have a medal ceremony which unfair for the other skaters
Red Russian rocket
@@KellyeR1970 the IOC didn’t really have a choice.
Might as well give Lance Armstrong his medals back since cheating is apparently okay now 😂😂😂
Give the gold back to Raducan also. And that was not her fault, it was the doctor!
Plot twist:
Those responsible for making sure that test results are released within 20 days instead of 40 got away with it.
A 20-day delay is just beyond me.
Yes. The timing was perfect. Just perfect.
So my family, who cares nothing about skating, now are asking me if this decision will help stop Putin invading Ukraine?
Yeah, figure skating, determining whether WW III breaks out !!
@wf1g, if you haven't seen the Netflix documentary "Icarus" I highly recommend it. The subject of Putin is very much tied to Russia's "striving for Olympic dominance."
Oh boy, this didn't age well
I’m surprised at all the people who just want to hate Kamila and blame her or state if she’s too young to be held responsible due to her age (under sixteen) then she shouldn’t be allowed to compete until she’s old enough. If she’s got the talent why shouldn’t she be able to compete? There are laws whereby adults are required to protect the young! We all know young people have a lot of trouble standing up to authority figures especially teachers and coaches and priests.
It's so sad to me that kids like Kamila are being used by this group of adults for some higher purpose ( money or influence idk). All the girls work so hard and now their skating is overshadowed by this scandal. If she's clearly the best why put her through this ?
Eteri and her team should really be removed from the sport for the sake of all these girls who have been wronged throughout the years. It's not fair to anyone involved.
Minors should be banned from competing in Olympics.
That's not fair to minors who are better than adults
@@xboxgamerhr Minor are not better than adults just because they can use their starved light bodies hep them to jump quads.
@@ktcool4660 so you're saying minors can jump quads and adults can't
Which automatically means minors are infinitely better in quads
@@xboxgamerhr "
Which automatically means minors are infinitely better in quads" what? Minor who jump squads destroy their bodies & retires before 2020.
@@ktcool4660 adults can't even jump quads lol
LONG LIVE KAMILA. Can’t wait to watch her shine.
So here's what I think about it: there are only two scenarios in which the substance was consumed by Kamila. 1) Her team doctor, who has a relevant doping past, administered the substance to her without her knowledge. 2) She knew what she was taking to enhance her performance. My opinion: Yes, she is a minor. But teenagers are not stupid. They are not little puppets being led around like marionettes. They are highly impressionable, but they also have minds of their own. I think that in Russia it is an open secret among athletes what happened in Sotchi and other competitions. Of course, you have to deny everything to the outside world. Meanwhile, I think that Kamila is definitely partly to blame. The Oympic Games should then open only to eighteen-year-olds, because apparently it is possible to escape responsibility if you are too young. This allows such a questionable doctor to do anything, or a trainer to recommend anything. In my country, there are many Russian patriots who see this as fraud again. So to all patriots: ROC has won medals in other competitions instead of figure skating and is allowed to keep them without any problems. I think lately especially about Tscherbakova and Trusova and feel sorry for them.
You don't punish the child for what the people around her are doing. You go back and make it impossible for them to take any drugs by doing more drug tests. Not waiting for 2 months. There has to be strict drug tests for skaters 1 year before the olympics. This is the only way to end the drug stuff
being early to a paola video makes me so happy
Seriously, the Russians can be happy, that the positive test came out after the team competition. If the Skandal would have been leaked before the competition, they would probably have not received the gold medal, just like Kamila in the single competition.
this is so unfair to any non-russian or/and non-eteri girl in the sport. for years everyone in sport but the eteri girls have been on a continuous uphill battle for recognition while her girls have been overscored even to other russian girls. all this will lead to is more demoralization for the athletes. i doubt eteri is going to be banned in russia but she NEEDS to be banned in international competition this is an insane bias right out in plain daylight when other athletes from all around the world are automatically banned for hitting a bong or an edible. so fucking insane this loses all credibility for the women's discipline and will extend to the rest of fs :(
the japanese and the americans worked hard and fairly for their medals in the team event and if someone besides a russian manages to get to the podium they'll be deprived of it too and it's so sickening. do they want this sport to lose even more credibility after sochi? for one team? this is so insane
fourth is the new gold to me idc lets go wakaba kaori and alysa
Eteri should not be banned unless she is proven responsible for drug usage within her skaters. What needs to be done is increase the minimum age to participate in these events.
@@Rita-lo8vw yes that i meant and i do agree the age needs to be raised even though im rooting for alysa
Eteris skaters are obviously the best doe, proving that she is the best coach
Just watched your guide to team tuberidze!!!
Valieva got 4th place. So thankfully it was a moot point.
I think that whatever the verdict is in the actual investigation and trial Kamila will be given a lighter punishment because of the age (which is just) I think that there’ll be an investigation into Eteri and co and I think thats when things are going to get nasty. We’ve all watched interviews of Eteri turning on skaters when they were on their way out (Alina) or if they left (Evengia) or just because why not say mean things about them publicly (Alena, Yulia). I think Publicly Eteri will try to make Kamila out as something she isn’t, and then if/when Kamila moves teams and has a wobble or loses a jump (due to team moving or puberty) Eteri and the whole world will say it’s because she can’t dope anymore
Rewatching this with less than 1 hour before the women's individual event 😬
This doping story is a fiction, an excuse to deprive Kamila and the whole team of the medals. Just corrupt business and politics. The most disgusting thing is that the athletes themselves suffer the most, who are not to blame for all this. Valieva was subjected to enormous pressure at the Olympics, and the next two years became hell for the teenager. A disgrace to the entire Olympic Committee. Valieva *was clean* during the Olympics. They found doping in December 2021 and *concealed it*. The IOC shouldn't allowed the sportsman to participate in the Olympic, they should forbid her to arrive to Beijing. But *they hid it* and blame Valieva *only when* the Olympic began. Obviously it was a setup.
Those who say that a 4-year disqualification is no big deal simply do not understand how short the life of professional athletes is. And it’s not only about the deprivation of medals from the Russian team and all Kamila’s medals since December 2021, but also about the fact that *Valieva can’t even train now, she can’t even perform in shows* sponsored by the Figure Skating Federation. She is thrown out for 4 years not only from the sport, but from skating in general. Can you imagine football without Messi, Pike, Alves? So there is no figure skating without her. One of the most talented figure skaters in the world was destroyed with this corrupt decision. And how, in this context, can Americans rejoice at the fact that they were given gold? You cannot build your happiness on the tears and grief of the child.
Yes, there are no weak athletes at the Olympics. But let's admit that in women's single figure skating, Russian skaters are on a completely different level. And Russians love this sport, the Russian Championship is held in crowded stands, and the level of skating there is like at the World Championships. And even among them all, Kamila Valieva is the rarest talent, artistry, technique and complexity.
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i'm not surprised at all that the Americans beat the Russians in ice dance. S/K are great but ridiculously over-scored (shocking)
Well, they didn't beat them. Good morning.
@@lexiusugrymius9392 ???
@@lexiusugrymius9392 they beat them in the rhythm dance and the long programme in the team event. Did you even watch it?! Lol
They were definitely overscored in the individual event, that's for sure! I don't think they should even have been on the podium, and to have them around 4 marks below P&C is an absolute joke. P&C should have been at least 10 points ahead of the field, minimum. They're the best ice dancers since Torvill and Dean imo. Just stunning 😍
okay, but i don't understand how were kamila's parents okay with her using drugs? even if eteri (her coach) gave her that drug and her parents weren't aware, then they should've taken some legal actions... i mean she should be suspended as a coach in general because she knows that doping is illegal and i'm sure this is not her first time, so i literally have no idea why and how is she still coaching...
That's what I'm wondering. How does one knowingly commit a "crime" thinking you won't get caught
Well in Russia it’s not how it works. They have a long history of doping… the government is very involved in sports and athletes don’t have much choice to challenge it.
@@TarotPolitics Thanks for your reply. I'm starting to understand this now. I'm reading about the various doping scandals, and the whistle blower Yuliya Stepanova. I also understand the western media want to capitalize on this news to make the Russians look even worse.
@@SerendipityForever It's sad because the athletes are truly talented and hardworking.
This girl Kamila is so talented incomparable... yet this doping scandal will taint her name it's very unfortunate.
Did you delete you last video?
I’m just loving it how everyone suddenly became true scientists and sport lawyers after reading a couple of headlines🤩rooting for punishment for the teen before any investigation even begins really shows you’re no better then a school bully, grow freakin up lol. “It is so unfair other athletes won’t get their podium moment, punish her not others😭” yea like suspending the girl without establishing facts and finding her guilty is really fair, so many years of fighting for the presumption of innocence and here we are, in the medieval times again. She will be punished if investigation shows she’s guilty, other athletes will receive their well deserved medals; if it’s otherwise, y’all need to start some therapy, can’t imagine how hard it is to live with all that hate inside of you
So true
Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva has argued her positive drugs test was due to contamination with her grandad's medicine, an Olympic official says.
the only reason ' i've been watching the figure skating program.. was Kamila Valieva.. she's the one, no even the red log hair silver medal girl, Kamila is another level, !! like somebody says.. is like watching a ballet dancer.. such stylish moves when she's perfoming, LONG LIVE THE QUEEN.. KAMILA VALIEVA
Were can I watch all skating from Olympics?
Wait, so individuals can also compete in the team? Why was kamilla in both events?
I’m new to figure skating
I feel empathy for kamila but when she competes in the singles her accomplishments will have a dark dark cloud over them. Honestly I think all the girls in that skating club are doping, not just kamila and I think it's been going on since they started landing multiple quads like they are NOTHING. Something has felt off to me when I watch the Russians skate and now I know what it is. And once again figure skating has shown how corrupt it is, Russia once again gets a slide and as a fan of the sport it turns me way off. I can imagine what someone who casually watches is thinking.
You’re delusional.
let's not jump to conclusions and wait for the end of the investigation. thank you.
let's not assume especially without proof.
@@dancer2189 And?
@@soyaaa_4385 Did you miss the words "I think"? Did I write my post was a conclusion?
If I hadn't found your other vids I would never understand how crazy all of this is. Will Eteri have to pay for this newest doping scandal?
Did you delete and re upload again
I didn't know about the ice dancers crashed during practice!
I have to listen to this through headphones while doing stuff bc I have to go to school in half an hour😞
Angry and disgusted that Russia gets its way and Kamila is allowed to start. Unbelievable just let's rename it in Dope-lympics since Russia can do it without punishment 😡😡
And Kamila is back in the game !
Well, the news are that Valieva is allowed to compete but not win gold. This is ridiculous, I'm not gonna blame her because I do think she is innocent, the fault was in the adults that were supposed to protect her and instead gave her this drug, but I do think she should NOT compete. The message that this is sending to future generations of athletes is awful: "doping minors is worth it because the sanctions aren't that big"
Also she would have an advantage over the other clean athletes, because you really think that the doping stopped? No, it might just be undetectable. Russian is known for this things unfortunately
FINALLY the vid is back
Have U read an explanation of Kamilla's mom? It seems that Kamilla's grandpa, who uses TMZ, made a Worldwide confusion.
@Ems Fit link please
Highly unlikely unless he dripped blood into an open wound of hers or had certain sexual contact, although it would probably have to be a lot. Sharing a water glass would probably not be enough.
@@rhythmicelegance4670 as far as I know it can't be passed via saliva, so I agree. The med goes into your bloodstream.
I thought this was an Internet joke until I actually saw it in the newspapper... O_o
I’m SO GLAD Anastasia Gubanonova is now skating with Georgia. Russia is so irresponsible and exploitative with their girls. I really hope Kamila is okay and works on her mental and emotional health after all of this.
Wow. Georgians are gonna dominate the skating world soon.
I feel bad for Trusova and Scherbakova, they can’t have medals just because of Valieva
Idk they might be too injured or "broken" which is known better to Tutberitze so they put 15-year-old Valieva instead
I hope now you all see how she "got away" with 'using drugs', lol. And what really happened here. Also, I would n't advise you to ever use vitamins and RinoFluimucil nasal spray for runny nose, those are dangerous drugs, too. At least for sports people.
She isn't Adelina Sotnikova. Please stop trying to treat her like one.
Well someone has to be punished.
They had to compete under ROC and not Russia as a punishment for state sponsored doping that happened 2014. Obviously they didnt learn.
Why am I getting dejavu :/
I just wanna mention that Kamila is allowed to compete, but she will have to prove here innocence afterwards. And as a lot of athletes like Gil Roberts (USA), Richard Gasket (Switzerland), Nadezhda Sergeeva (Rusia) etc Kamila could have a positive resolution of this case.
But of course nobody cares about that here. It’s complicated to evaluate the case and make logical conclusions when you just come to throw shit at Eteri, Kamila and so on… anyways I wanted to unsubscribe after “I hope something happens to Anya so she will not make it to the Olympics”, but I thought that maybe it was just a stupid mistake of you. But no, now I see that stupid was not the mistake, but the person behind the channel😂
@Ems Fit well… inform yourself if you think that there is nobody throwing shit at Kamila. Everybody saying how disappointed they are that CAS took the most logical decision they could give and calling Kami not a clean athlete before any decision on her case have been taken😂 Open your eyes man😂 if you’re really interested in understanding the case, take a look at the doping history of the athletes I mentioned before. P.S. I know you’ll not do it cuz you just came to throw shit with no proofs, but anyway I had to try to make your brain work a little
@Ems Fit do I really have to show you cases when the explanation was not proved enough and the athlete was punished? Or you can use Google and inform yourself about these cases as well? It’s funny how people think they are smarter than the judges and call “crap” whatever is against their way of seeing the world. But you know what? The world is not black and white. And there are loooots of tones of grey.
Simone Biles is never going to be even the top 3 without her doping (and we all saw that at the last Olympics), she was taking a very hard drugs for the whole life (that by the way have no evidence to be helpful for her desease), but she is a national hero… while Kamila was clean during her whole life and now called dirty athlete before any official decision on her case…
@Ems Fit I love when people only reply to the first phrase of the comment, cuz they don’t want to face real facts and don’t have any knowledge to even try to prove me wrong!
You go man! Good job!🥳🤩✨🌟
People who say that she could not compete because of the positive test
You willfully skip so many freaking aspects (that other samples were taken after this sample and did not contain anything, relevance of the sample is more than a month, the dose is negligible, and this drug cannot affect the results qualitatively at all, because it is for people with cardiovascular diseases and can’t give you any advantages) You are just jealous and happy of finally finding a reason to justify other’s teams weaknesses
So mean
Why would a 15 year old who competes at a senior level require a medication that is not even recommended for those under 18? And don't start with the grandfather's medication crap because no one is falling for it. TMZ is banned for a reason. No one is jealous of a child who is being used as a political pawn.
That's just not true. The drug enhances endurance in the athlete, by oxygenating the blood. It makes them train harder for longer (or get to the end of a programme without getting tired like others).
Trace or large amounts found is irrelevant anyway. Elite athletes have to test clean all year round. Every year.
You can't even take flu medications and certain cough bottles btw (as an example). I know because I competed at senior level, and operated under those rules. That was a long time ago now, but every athlete knows to be seriously careful in what they take, whether then or now.
Their team doctor is the same one that did all the doping at Sochi that got Russia banned from competing at the Olympics.
Kamila should just withdraw tomorrow.
They would not let her.
@@milenamichalska I think so too. Too bad though. That would be the right thing to do.
my thoughts as well, only way for her image to be saved but also withdrawing would not just be something against her teams wishes but also Russia's.
it is just chaos and dramatic
It is hard to imagine how the team Tutberidze face after this Olympics
Also, it is sad for the athlete to train without doping
Lastly, I just wanna know how the commenter will comment on Kamila's performance tonight.🌚
Do you think it was unfair for the Olympic committee to allow Kamila to participate but they didn’t allow Sha'Carri Richardson to compete?
the video is backwards
The Russians play by intimation and this is a true example. If that 15 year old has any integrity, because we know her coaches don't, she will withdraw. This is outrageous and unfair to all!!! Doping is doping!!! Can't and won't watch her again!!! Bullying on a global scale!!!
WADO pewnie ma i na innych haka.Może +doping sportowca ogłosić nawet po 5 latach.Wszyscy święci tylko w niebie.
To be honest. I have ZERO respect for the Russian Olympic athletes. I feel bad for the young girls because it might not be their choice but still. Gotta do the time if you commit the crime it's not complicated. The Olympics just proved its all about money and hype. #TheFixIsIn
You are just brainwashed by your media. That doping is all about westerners demonizing Russia. Based on the testimony of a Russian who now lives in the US.
@@Truffle_Young_Jr why do they keep having positive tests in different sports?
Should have ban them. In 2018.
As of right now, I can't even!!!!! She's going to be skating and Russia are still getting medals which I believe shouldn't be allowed. Because it was the team that did this. I hope this changes after this. Anything I see online is kamilas face. Not surprised if she falters I'm rooting for the other two very much as well. Love scherbs and Sasha! Love Kmaila but so sad. She's always clutching her chest after performance and I wonder how much of that is related to this banned heart medication... I can see pain in her face.
I beleave, everyone on the higher leavel under the top ten, does it. There are so many videos that explain the hole dopeing-scene worldwide.🤷♀️
Russia no
Kick Russia out for several years
2022 female figure skating is dead
Propaganda bullsh.....
a 15 year old girl is NOT a child. A 5 year old is a child. She knew what was happening.
Yeah but according to the law, a 15 year old person is still a child. They have to follow the law
A 15 year old is a minor, therefore classed as a child (and they're just that....a child).
Watch the Margarita Mamun documentary on YT for an idea of the power imbalance between coaches and pupils in sport in Russia.
May I please do a private discord call with you? Your opinions are very misguided. I am on very close terms with both eteri and Sergei, and as a Russian American I think I can give you some input
Lol, you’re such a liar