Hello Buildzoid. I am the first memory OC. I in fact do not know what I am doing. I come to your videos to try and get an idea of what I am doing. Thank you for your feedback. I was having a ton of stability issues at a couple of lower timings, but I will definitely try disable ecores and come back. Thank you!
@@neilpirelli9240 are you being sarcastic or do you actually believe it? Can you give some context? Assertions without explanation can be dismissed without explanation. 💩
I think you have stumbled into a great format for yourself; This provides structure so you end up getting a lot more coherent information out. Great stuff!
I think that doing this stuff is awesome and the time isn’t a big deal for me personally. Hearing what is good and what is the best options teaches us. Hopefully I can bring a kit to the table that’s impressive
Low effort on your side, high reward on both sides. We get all the do's and don'ts that come up during your reviews. And I think this will be very popular for your channel. The amount of variety you will get with this is super valuable. It's why it's so hard to make over clocking videos teaching people how to over clock. Everyone want to have numbers given to them just to punch in and not understand how each system and situation is different. Every chips IMC is different, the platforms different, each component different. And all those differences show, and the mistakes you point out help us all ensure not make those same mistakes. I love it, keep em coming.
first Some extra information on DR vs SR: th-cam.com/video/25NW8cHNrgA/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/1ZbxMh5xUOg/w-d-xo.html tRRDs and tFAW: th-cam.com/video/GHfXRUPLj1I/w-d-xo.html
Massively enjoyed that. Part two would be cool, more random chips or sticks would be cool if there are more in the responses. Look for the 96gb lunatic... Probably loads of revE Ryzen like mself already.
That was cool I definitely learned some things I didn't know before. Still the pcb breakdowns and the oscilloscope videos are my faves. I feel kinda sorry for the last guy you roasted lolz
is the new smart thing to to set tras lower then the old trcd+tcl? It used to be that if you went below it there was a possible performance hit as the system can't really use below a certain amount and has to subsititue the number. But since we can't change trc is it smart to use that to lower it?
Great balance between Roasting and Rating :D Yes I think this kind of video every once in a while is good! I'm playing with my first bdie kit (2x8 - 3600 - cl16) on an Asus X570-I and 5700G. I hope to get some good results so I can post something even if I'm a normie :D
I really enjoyed this! I just started working with memory OC so i'm still learning and this helps alot! It is suprisingly difficult to find good info on overclocking memory!
hello, one question, should I get a build with i7-12700 and ddr5, since it is said that the ddr5 are now not the best I wanted to ask you what I should pay attention to when choosing a motherboard as optimized as possible on the hardware side with this ddr5 technology in view of the future (even bearing in mind to overclock the RAM in the future to 6000 / 6400MHz)? if you can recommend some technical specifications, or what should I give more importance in choosing the mobo knowing that the goal is to get one that I would use with RAM banks more mature than I would buy in 1/2 years when the ddr5 will no longer be "immature". So hypothetically it goes better than the others with DDR5 of the future in practice😅. I ask you pk informing me I noticed a big difference between models of ddr5 motherboards, both for problems that some cards give and others not, and for better or worse optimization of the hardware. Thanks in advance for your patience :)
23:14 my city now (full screencap actually had my discord handle in notepad), so scls anywhere below 7 would error. trrd situation is a product of my brainfart at the time. and no, tfaw anywhere below 42 wasn't stable... i don't even remember anymore if that was auto or like a few ticks below auto. a lot of ram i have (second hand ebay junk) does that to me, even on the 5700g. tfaw loose or straight out auto, errors otherwise (i actually grew to love ram that refuses to post at 16, usually means it can do 24 without hassle xd), independent of the trrd set. trfc is pitiful as frigg for 4gbit agnostic of vdimm, my 4gbit g ran 230ns let alone other microns (even cutdowns from 8gbit) that will do 200 and lower... and then you have 8gbit d which hangs around in the lower 200s as is (i think i tested that with my 2133c15 green mushkins?? 240ns on those), and 8gbit a which can run criminally low trfc, being the absolute bsod-ey system restore-y trash in all other aspects. cheers and thank you for the edutainment!
I just met some strange stuff happening with my RAM overclock. I tightened timings even more, at cost of bumping voltage from 1.45 to 1.47 But for some reason, my latency just tanked since my previous tests... From 57.8 ns up to normal 62.4 ns (and even up to 64 ns), which is not normal to happen for no reason UPD... Found culprit = tSME was enabled. Disabling it fixed latency problems
Your comment about YT deleting links made me realize how much time and effort I spent for absolutely nothing, lol. OC pics here, articls and forum posts there, and they just silently take it down? Would have been nice to at least get notified, even if it's to be told to forget about posting such crap on their platform, but at least now I know lol.
@ 36:23 of the video you mention that tWRTR (22-10) is not a thing on intel cpu's but I thought you had to change tWRRD (56-44) to change the numbers around. So should you just leave them settings on auto?
he noticed my spectek chips in the 2nd one, ill try the sub timings settings later on and report back, because this memory really hates going above 3600 or going below 21 in 3600 along with spitting anything above 1.4v giving me headaches for 2 days before settling on this one, then again the ram cost $65 converted brand new soo yea... to be expected i guess, thank you for the suggestions also with thaipoon the memory type doesn't even come out, its just undefined and just says transcend, the only way to know is by taking a pic of the chip which i probably should
That was some merciless roasting. I was expecting c-dies! Gotta post my own shitty results on hardware I obviously didn't know enough about when I bought it :-D
9:24 nope. Tfaw 16 at any micron (i have micron e-die) causes stability issues in testmem0.12 (extreme1anta) and probably in any mem stress test.. i have trrds5, trrdl9, tfaw32, tfaw30 issues, trrds4 issues, trrdl8 issues.. so that's my micron e-die maxed
This gives me some confidence in my own memory timings. Good to know that all those countless hours didn't go to waste. And as a "low effort" content by BZ. There's quite a bit to learn from it. Or at least confirmed or debunked some concepts and misconceptions that ones might have.
It'd be great to see more. A million identical B-die tunes might be a bit much, but there's a lot of potential in setups that aren't 2x8GB B-die. If you ever take submissions from the patreon discord I could post a couple...
Can e-cores cause error to appear when they shouldn't? I was running HCI up to %1200 error free, with the 140mm RAM fan on about %50 PWM and I was getting 30 celsius msx temps on RAM. I then decided to turn the fan as low as possible and mem temps went to 37c max but I was getting quite a lot of errors on many threads in a short time just going from %1200 to %1300. Running 12700k stock. How is it possible it was running error free for almost a day at 30c max temps but at 37c lots of errors showed up in a short period of time?
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Oh really is that so? Since this is my first rodeo OCing ram, having read on reddit OC forums I was under the impression that with B-Die those errors only show up at 45c~50c+. I'm on Z690 D4, 2x16GB dual rank at 3800-14-14-14-30 with very similar subtimings to the ones posted in recent Z690/D4 videos.
@@Ben-ld1qi it depends on the sticks and the settings you're trying to run. The more aggressive your timings the more temperature sensitive the RAM gets.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Alright thanks for clearing things up. Because I initially thought that there was something wrong seeing errors at 'only' 37c. I'll experiment a bit to see if I can run error free in the high 30's celsius with looser subtimings. Thanks again!
Hello BZ I think that when people ask you for a video about how ram OCing works you could just wrap a video about actual math rules like the one you explain at 26:03 bc thats the knowledge we are missing
I'm confused why you wouldn't stress test with e core's on. If you turn them off for ram testing and not do a stress test how do you know they'll be stable?
Got my bdie run 5000 cl 16 @1.8v for pi benching and geek. 4800 cl 15 on 3d benchmark. Partiot viper 4400 eith cezzane 5600g, just posted late on tweeter. And yes i bought this ram upon seeing yours and my fellow teammates recomendation 🥰
I just picked up my first intel chip which is a 12600k, and can get 5.4 allcore at 1.275v on a 120mm evga aio!!! thanks buildzoid for the memory oc tips!!!
You know… I have an MSI x470 gaming pro and every time I touch the RAM timings shit goes haywire. 2700x, Trident Z 4133 CL19 2x8GB kit. I think I just killed my motherboard, it won't POST, it just blinks once after I press the clr_CMOS button. I'm going to look through your videos for a good x570 board and see what I can impulse buy.
13:18 I have zen+ cpu and anything above 3200 gets unstable as soon as the imc hits ~60°C Still, I can boot up to 3733 on very loose timings. It just isn't stable and gets even worse, when the cpu gets hot.
16:30 Wait so that means I got lucky with my B-die 4000 cl16 and my 3200 cl14 kit both able to do 3800 cl14 with 14 TRCD's (technically the WR is 8) AND be able to run them both in a 4x8 config with the same (and even tigher) settings?
Buildzoid being absolutely savage to his viewers. Love it! Slightly mean but very constructive Gonna post my settings as well to get roasted :D (I hope)
What's a good way to check how many ranks a memory kit has or even just what chips it has? The talk about replacing a single rank with another single rank kit reminded me I don't really know the best way to go about buying ram.
hey ''Actually Hardcore Overclocking'' i have an issue with an rtx 3080 dell oem the light was flickering on the gpu when its under load all the sudden and the gpu acted like it was limted in power it couldent pass the 188 watts mark so i just turned off the computer and turn it on agian the gpu doesnt even turn on no fan spin or lights anymore i have this issue with 3 gpus so far can you please help me.
Man I’m glad I came across this video. My frustration may be in the damn ram I have. I have terrible micro stutters I’ve tried everything but swapping the ram. What ram for a 5800x3d should I buy. I don’t know squat about tuning
This video was actually great. I've just digged into tweaking sub timings and spent the last week doing so. Since cpu overclocking isn't the same thing as it once was it's really challenging finding the sweetspot and learning how everytinh is tied together. Would love for you to comment on my noob tweak in another video. 😀 Not much exciting though. Micron e die "rev b1"(?) I couldnt simply just use dram calculator though. I'm kind of dissapointed to be stuck at tRFC 560 at 3800Mhz. But I guess theres only so much you can do in this situation?!
Hello Buidzoid. I have a system with a "mutant" processor (interposer BGA1440 to LGA 1151). It´s a intel ES QTJ1, a 9 to 10 generation, with 8c/16t. There´s a problem with this setup, for some misterious reason, no one was able do reach more than 2800mhz. So now I´m trying to find good timings for the memories. The memories are XPG ADATA 3600mhz ( I bouth it thinking the system was able). Did you made tests with interposers or this memories?
ive got a gibayte z690i and the 2x16 kit of bdie ive got that i know can do 4000+ at decent timings (ran daily at 16-16-16-36) the board wont post at below c16 or above 3600 :(
Ye do more of these videos. I like it. PS: BTW you are right. Today everyone copies timings from guides or other people without understanding the relations b/w them.
13:20 at first I thought my hynix cjr was garbage but I had some clues It might be held back by my 2600s IMC including motherboard limitations. I only got stable upto ~3400C14 After changing to 3600 on same board I found out I have a decent bin on those CJRs but now IF is helding me back at 1866 Mhz / 3733C16 GDM off timings getting almost as tight as the best bins according to what Ive seen and I searched a lot.. Given its a 3200C16 2x8Kit I think only a 3600 bin could perform better
so i have, 5600G , B550I AORUS PRO AX, G.SKILL, (2x8GB) TridentZ RGB 3600MHz 16/19/19/19 1.35V (Hynix C-die), have pushed FCLK to 1900Mhz, RAM to 3800Mhz with VSOC 1.1V and RAM voltage 1.4V 16/19/19/19, but i can't get FCLK above 1900Mhz with keeping 1:1 ratio, you stated that 2300Mhz should be possible, that is with 1:1ration? I did tried all the suggestons from 1usmus RAM OC tool and even went very loose 20/25/25/25, but it will not boot up with anything above 1900Mhz FCLK/RAM. what am i missing?
Im running bottom of the barrel 3200mhz CL16 with fairly loose sub timings. But it does standard CL16 at 3200 and 1,35V so pretty average DDR4 to be fair. How much do you gain by tightening timings? Or going for 3400mhz at 1.5V? It probably wont do it anyways...
I have zero clue on overclocking memory I've got Gskills trident z 3866. Any help will be greatly appreciated. (I'm got the 12600k and msi tomahawk ddr4 motherboard)
Can I post a link here without dots and slashes? I really don't want to register a Twitter account just for that, but I would really like to hear your opinion about my OC on a 64 GB Micron Rev b 16gb kit. I am sure you don't get a lot of 64-Gig submissions.
I post links with my comments pretty regularly and only when the channel owner has it configured to auto remove or when you first want to check the comment it will get listed for you to approve or decline and only then will the comment not go through. I also think that as long as you use TH-cam links to another video or channel that TH-cam will approve, not 100% sure though. I know that TH-cam also has a blacklist for links they don't want you to use but I don't know which websites are on that blacklist.
hello buildzoid. i have g skill trident z NEO 3600 cl 16 16 16 36 2x8GB. is it ok to mix it with trident z RGB 2x8 kit with the same frequency and the same timings.. cause i want to have dual rank set up. coz theres the NEO is out of atock here in japan. i jus wantt to run it on XMP. is there a performance difference in gaming?
Oh I made it. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely try 3600. And yes tRFC is on Auto, my motherboard is weird, RFC says 312 idk if that's ns or what. Update: I hate RAM overclocking 😂, having trouble with stability no matter what I do.
I have this strange issue where I can run 2300 FCLK/4600 Mem just fine on my 5600G passing every memory stress test, but as soon as I load up any GPU intensive task (running on the 5600G iGPU), the system straight up power cycles. What could be the problem? Not enough power delivery on the vSoC rail? Mainboard is an MSI B450M Mortar Max
The tRTP 11 "loose" on Blackdot's 6800c28 on Unify-X / Oloy Blade RGB? is actually as low as they can go on that board. You can only set a minimum of 12 in bios but Asrock Timing Config in windows shows it as 11.
I have msi b550 mpg gaming plus, ryzen 5600g, samsung b-die memory sticks. I overclocked my memory to 4200cl16 and I have some problems with my usb headphones, the sound is interrupted, I tested it with 3600MHz on memory and the problem is still here, but it appears less than on 4200MHz. And I noticed if I turn on SVM, the problem disappears, but BCLK drops down to 96MHz. Could anyone suggest what I can do about it?
Hello Buildzoid. I am the first memory OC. I in fact do not know what I am doing. I come to your videos to try and get an idea of what I am doing. Thank you for your feedback. I was having a ton of stability issues at a couple of lower timings, but I will definitely try disable ecores and come back. Thank you!
@@neilpirelli9240 are you being sarcastic or do you actually believe it?
Can you give some context? Assertions without explanation can be dismissed without explanation. 💩
I think you have stumbled into a great format for yourself; This provides structure so you end up getting a lot more coherent information out. Great stuff!
This a goldmine!!! More of these sir! Very much appreciated.
AHOC: "an earlier attempt was an hour long, I'll try not to make it an hour long"
Also AHOC: 49 minute video
Perfect video length imo
also AHOC: i need some low effort content
He could just upload his 60 min takes at 1.25x speed and come in under budget!
Edit: even 1.10x speed would get the same results :p
For all I can he can make these videos as long as Joe Rogan's podcasts lol
At least it's not 59. But I'm fine with 2hrs or whatever.
"Is the next set of timings interesting?" **views my tweet** "uhhh... not really"
fuck, I gotta try harder next time haha
I think that doing this stuff is awesome and the time isn’t a big deal for me personally. Hearing what is good and what is the best options teaches us. Hopefully I can bring a kit to the table that’s impressive
Agreed I watch his videos during boring times so I have time.
@@WillFuI I watch his videos while I'm waiting for my system to post during ram ocing. I need to burn the time
Low effort on your side, high reward on both sides. We get all the do's and don'ts that come up during your reviews. And I think this will be very popular for your channel. The amount of variety you will get with this is super valuable. It's why it's so hard to make over clocking videos teaching people how to over clock. Everyone want to have numbers given to them just to punch in and not understand how each system and situation is different. Every chips IMC is different, the platforms different, each component different. And all those differences show, and the mistakes you point out help us all ensure not make those same mistakes. I love it, keep em coming.
I would love to see more of this. Learned a lot from it and it's great for listening on the side.
33:21 if you want to skip to the most impressive OC. Spoiler, DDR5 6800 with good timings.
17:00 just leaving a note for myself
YES, YES, YES, More memory reaction/ correction videos please !
And definitely want my config to be rated by you! 4x8gb on X470 board :)
I'd like to see a part 2.
first
Some extra information on DR vs SR:
th-cam.com/video/25NW8cHNrgA/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/1ZbxMh5xUOg/w-d-xo.html
tRRDs and tFAW:
th-cam.com/video/GHfXRUPLj1I/w-d-xo.html
facepalm
Mom said it was my turn to comment first.
Massively enjoyed that. Part two would be cool, more random chips or sticks would be cool if there are more in the responses. Look for the 96gb lunatic...
Probably loads of revE Ryzen like mself already.
That was cool I definitely learned some things I didn't know before. Still the pcb breakdowns and the oscilloscope videos are my faves.
I feel kinda sorry for the last guy you roasted lolz
Awesome! Thanks for the walkthroughs! They were very helpful!
is the new smart thing to to set tras lower then the old trcd+tcl? It used to be that if you went below it there was a possible performance hit as the system can't really use below a certain amount and has to subsititue the number. But since we can't change trc is it smart to use that to lower it?
Great balance between Roasting and Rating :D
Yes I think this kind of video every once in a while is good!
I'm playing with my first bdie kit (2x8 - 3600 - cl16) on an Asus X570-I and 5700G.
I hope to get some good results so I can post something even if I'm a normie :D
how did it go?
Damn I missed this, it's a nice idea! Will you do another one of these?
Great vid. I like this idea, I’d love to see more of it. As you say, it’s not so high effort but I still like it
But you haven't watched it yet
@@imadecoy. typical "first" commenter, he's just begging for attention lol
Awesome video! I’ve tried to understand timings better and this really helped me! I’d really like this as a recurring theme :)
I really enjoyed this! I just started working with memory OC so i'm still learning and this helps alot! It is suprisingly difficult to find good info on overclocking memory!
This is great content. For us special memory overclocking folk it helps a lot. It would help to do a video like this like once a month.
Buildzoid Reacts: your shitty RAM timings
This is actually dank as hell. Who needs effort when you have fun ideas
It was really fun to watch. Might even help many people who get into RAM OC to see many configs with your comments. Moreee parts
will you do other episode of this format ? (if yes i would like to post my results )
I really should have submitted my overclocks, 64GB of Kingston server CJR at 3800 C16 with ECC on is my favorite lol.
The dry, biting humor in the intro was great 😂
This was nice. Would personally like to see more of this.
hello, one question, should I get a build with i7-12700 and ddr5, since it is said that the ddr5 are now not the best I wanted to ask you what I should pay attention to when choosing a motherboard as optimized as possible on the hardware side with this ddr5 technology in view of the future (even bearing in mind to overclock the RAM in the future to 6000 / 6400MHz)? if you can recommend some technical specifications, or what should I give more importance in choosing the mobo knowing that the goal is to get one that I would use with RAM banks more mature than I would buy in 1/2 years when the ddr5 will no longer be "immature". So hypothetically it goes better than the others with DDR5 of the future in practice😅. I ask you pk informing me I noticed a big difference between models of ddr5 motherboards, both for problems that some cards give and others not, and for better or worse optimization of the hardware. Thanks in advance for your patience :)
23:14 my city now (full screencap actually had my discord handle in notepad), so scls anywhere below 7 would error. trrd situation is a product of my brainfart at the time. and no, tfaw anywhere below 42 wasn't stable... i don't even remember anymore if that was auto or like a few ticks below auto. a lot of ram i have (second hand ebay junk) does that to me, even on the 5700g. tfaw loose or straight out auto, errors otherwise (i actually grew to love ram that refuses to post at 16, usually means it can do 24 without hassle xd), independent of the trrd set. trfc is pitiful as frigg for 4gbit agnostic of vdimm, my 4gbit g ran 230ns let alone other microns (even cutdowns from 8gbit) that will do 200 and lower... and then you have 8gbit d which hangs around in the lower 200s as is (i think i tested that with my 2133c15 green mushkins?? 240ns on those), and 8gbit a which can run criminally low trfc, being the absolute bsod-ey system restore-y trash in all other aspects. cheers and thank you for the edutainment!
If you get roasted by builzoid consider it an honor. Lucky bastards. Great video. Very educational. Thanks.
I just met some strange stuff happening with my RAM overclock.
I tightened timings even more, at cost of bumping voltage from 1.45 to 1.47
But for some reason, my latency just tanked since my previous tests... From 57.8 ns up to normal 62.4 ns (and even up to 64 ns), which is not normal to happen for no reason
UPD... Found culprit = tSME was enabled. Disabling it fixed latency problems
Your comment about YT deleting links made me realize how much time and effort I spent for absolutely nothing, lol.
OC pics here, articls and forum posts there, and they just silently take it down? Would have been nice to at least get notified, even if it's to be told to forget about posting such crap on their platform, but at least now I know lol.
Love your videos bro!!! Can you make one about DDR3 overclocking? That would be really cool
@ 36:23 of the video you mention that tWRTR (22-10) is not a thing on intel cpu's but I thought you had to change tWRRD (56-44) to change the numbers around. So should you just leave them settings on auto?
Please do more of them, I think it's very useful
Damn it I can't believe I missed this. Hopefully you plan to do this again soon. This was a fun watch and pretty educational.
he noticed my spectek chips in the 2nd one, ill try the sub timings settings later on and report back, because this memory really hates going above 3600 or going below 21 in 3600 along with spitting anything above 1.4v giving me headaches for 2 days before settling on this one, then again the ram cost $65 converted brand new soo yea... to be expected i guess, thank you for the suggestions
also with thaipoon the memory type doesn't even come out, its just undefined and just says transcend, the only way to know is by taking a pic of the chip which i probably should
That was some merciless roasting. I was expecting c-dies! Gotta post my own shitty results on hardware I obviously didn't know enough about when I bought it :-D
9:24 nope. Tfaw 16 at any micron (i have micron e-die) causes stability issues in testmem0.12 (extreme1anta) and probably in any mem stress test.. i have trrds5, trrdl9, tfaw32, tfaw30 issues, trrds4 issues, trrdl8 issues.. so that's my micron e-die maxed
This gives me some confidence in my own memory timings. Good to know that all those countless hours didn't go to waste. And as a "low effort" content by BZ. There's quite a bit to learn from it. Or at least confirmed or debunked some concepts and misconceptions that ones might have.
Is 4200mhz cl16 good for a overclock it’s a patriot viper 4400mhz cl19 but wasn’t able to do xmp 1 but could xmp2 at 4266. Cl19 and 4266 cl17
part 2? id like to send in my cjr 3600 5950x timing.
It'd be great to see more. A million identical B-die tunes might be a bit much, but there's a lot of potential in setups that aren't 2x8GB B-die. If you ever take submissions from the patreon discord I could post a couple...
Wanna part 2! Will be there another Twitter post for 2nd part or still the same as 1st?
Can e-cores cause error to appear when they shouldn't? I was running HCI up to %1200 error free, with the 140mm RAM fan on about %50 PWM and I was getting 30 celsius msx temps on RAM. I then decided to turn the fan as low as possible and mem temps went to 37c max but I was getting quite a lot of errors on many threads in a short time just going from %1200 to %1300. Running 12700k stock. How is it possible it was running error free for almost a day at 30c max temps but at 37c lots of errors showed up in a short period of time?
30 to 37c is a big difference for memory stability.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Oh really is that so? Since this is my first rodeo OCing ram, having read on reddit OC forums I was under the impression that with B-Die those errors only show up at 45c~50c+. I'm on Z690 D4, 2x16GB dual rank at 3800-14-14-14-30 with very similar subtimings to the ones posted in recent Z690/D4 videos.
@@Ben-ld1qi it depends on the sticks and the settings you're trying to run. The more aggressive your timings the more temperature sensitive the RAM gets.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Alright thanks for clearing things up. Because I initially thought that there was something wrong seeing errors at 'only' 37c. I'll experiment a bit to see if I can run error free in the high 30's celsius with looser subtimings. Thanks again!
30:18 high FCLK => 5x check with linpack, if result inconsistent, then too high
Hello BZ
I think that when people ask you for a video about how ram OCing works you could just wrap a video about actual math rules like the one you explain at 26:03 bc thats the knowledge we are missing
I'm confused why you wouldn't stress test with e core's on. If you turn them off for ram testing and not do a stress test how do you know they'll be stable?
Got my bdie run 5000 cl 16 @1.8v for pi benching and geek. 4800 cl 15 on 3d benchmark. Partiot viper 4400 eith cezzane 5600g, just posted late on tweeter. And yes i bought this ram upon seeing yours and my fellow teammates recomendation 🥰
I just picked up my first intel chip which is a 12600k, and can get 5.4 allcore at 1.275v on a 120mm evga aio!!! thanks buildzoid for the memory oc tips!!!
Crazy OC if stable
@@hopey1809 It works for Cinebench R20 and all the games I play.
@@LegionGamingTV which board do you use? I am wondering if it makes an OC difference
You know… I have an MSI x470 gaming pro and every time I touch the RAM timings shit goes haywire. 2700x, Trident Z 4133 CL19 2x8GB kit. I think I just killed my motherboard, it won't POST, it just blinks once after I press the clr_CMOS button.
I'm going to look through your videos for a good x570 board and see what I can impulse buy.
13:18 I have zen+ cpu and anything above 3200 gets unstable as soon as the imc hits ~60°C Still, I can boot up to 3733 on very loose timings. It just isn't stable and gets even worse, when the cpu gets hot.
Zen+'s IMC is garbage.
t. Ryzen 2600/3466 CL14-14-14-28
1h of TestMem5 Extreme stable though!
@@Wasmachineman my Zen+ can boot 3733 c14 flat, impossible to stabilise though. but it can.
This was awesome man!
16:30 Wait so that means I got lucky with my B-die 4000 cl16 and my 3200 cl14 kit both able to do 3800 cl14 with 14 TRCD's (technically the WR is 8) AND be able to run them both in a 4x8 config with the same (and even tigher) settings?
well if you shove enough voltage into B-die pretty much all of it will do TRCD 14. but with 1.5V or less TRCD 14 is very good.
im to scared to upload my viper 4000 c15 timings
I think you should do this every so often, people learn a lot, and it's ez content for you.
Buildzoid being absolutely savage to his viewers. Love it! Slightly mean but very constructive
Gonna post my settings as well to get roasted :D (I hope)
RAM overclocking has a weird learning curve I learn a lot from videos like this
07:10 can setting affinity help instead of disabling E-cores?
What's a good way to check how many ranks a memory kit has or even just what chips it has? The talk about replacing a single rank with another single rank kit reminded me I don't really know the best way to go about buying ram.
Where can I find info about ram timings because past the primary it’s not easy to find info
awesome content, once my new build ready i will *try* timing the memory. once done i will post it. anyway, thumbs up.
This video helped me get my timing so much tighter than I even thought possible just by a side comment. Please do more.
As someone who is new to RAM OC is there a place to read about a process or general guidelines on how to get started?
hey ''Actually Hardcore Overclocking'' i have an issue with an rtx 3080 dell oem the light was flickering on the gpu when its under load all the sudden and the gpu acted like it was limted in power it couldent pass the 188 watts mark so i just turned off the computer and turn it on agian the gpu doesnt even turn on no fan spin or lights anymore i have this issue with 3 gpus so far can you please help me.
Man I’m glad I came across this video. My frustration may be in the damn ram I have. I have terrible micro stutters I’ve tried everything but swapping the ram. What ram for a 5800x3d should I buy. I don’t know squat about tuning
we need part 2!!!and more parts pls!! awesome job
This video was actually great. I've just digged into tweaking sub timings and spent the last week doing so. Since cpu overclocking isn't the same thing as it once was it's really challenging finding the sweetspot and learning how everytinh is tied together. Would love for you to comment on my noob tweak in another video. 😀
Not much exciting though. Micron e die "rev b1"(?) I couldnt simply just use dram calculator though. I'm kind of dissapointed to be stuck at tRFC 560 at 3800Mhz. But I guess theres only so much you can do in this situation?!
Hello Buidzoid. I have a system with a "mutant" processor (interposer BGA1440 to LGA 1151). It´s a intel ES QTJ1, a 9 to 10 generation, with 8c/16t. There´s a problem with this setup, for some misterious reason, no one was able do reach more than 2800mhz. So now I´m trying to find good timings for the memories. The memories are XPG ADATA 3600mhz ( I bouth it thinking the system was able).
Did you made tests with interposers or this memories?
Can we do this concept again in near future ?
ive got a gibayte z690i and the 2x16 kit of bdie ive got that i know can do 4000+ at decent timings (ran daily at 16-16-16-36) the board wont post at below c16 or above 3600 :(
Ye do more of these videos. I like it.
PS: BTW you are right. Today everyone copies timings from guides or other people without understanding the relations b/w them.
Honestly, I feel like the last one would have made a good video all on its own. You ranting about why something is dumb is good content.
13:20 at first I thought my hynix cjr was garbage but I had some clues It might be held back by my 2600s IMC including motherboard limitations. I only got stable upto ~3400C14 After changing to 3600 on same board I found out I have a decent bin on those CJRs but now IF is helding me back at 1866 Mhz / 3733C16 GDM off timings getting almost as tight as the best bins according to what Ive seen and I searched a lot.. Given its a 3200C16 2x8Kit I think only a 3600 bin could perform better
At this point, I would just like to have Buildzoid roast my ram. Gold.
so i have, 5600G , B550I AORUS PRO AX, G.SKILL, (2x8GB) TridentZ RGB 3600MHz 16/19/19/19 1.35V (Hynix C-die), have pushed FCLK to 1900Mhz, RAM to 3800Mhz with VSOC 1.1V and RAM voltage 1.4V 16/19/19/19, but i can't get FCLK above 1900Mhz with keeping 1:1 ratio, you stated that 2300Mhz should be possible, that is with 1:1ration? I did tried all the suggestons from 1usmus RAM OC tool and even went very loose 20/25/25/25, but it will not boot up with anything above 1900Mhz FCLK/RAM. what am i missing?
Im running bottom of the barrel 3200mhz CL16 with fairly loose sub timings. But it does standard CL16 at 3200 and 1,35V so pretty average DDR4 to be fair.
How much do you gain by tightening timings?
Or going for 3400mhz at 1.5V?
It probably wont do it anyways...
I have zero clue on overclocking memory I've got Gskills trident z 3866. Any help will be greatly appreciated. (I'm got the 12600k and msi tomahawk ddr4 motherboard)
Can I post a link here without dots and slashes? I really don't want to register a Twitter account just for that, but I would really like to hear your opinion about my OC on a 64 GB Micron Rev b 16gb kit. I am sure you don't get a lot of 64-Gig submissions.
I swear there's performance difference with GDM in gaming, the mouse feels more floaty.
But I have no way to make sure...
Nice rant video!
I post links with my comments pretty regularly and only when the channel owner has it configured to auto remove or when you first want to check the comment it will get listed for you to approve or decline and only then will the comment not go through.
I also think that as long as you use TH-cam links to another video or channel that TH-cam will approve, not 100% sure though.
I know that TH-cam also has a blacklist for links they don't want you to use but I don't know which websites are on that blacklist.
does it worth on a z490 unify with i7 10700k get another kit of viper 4400 c19 to make 4x8? i have reached 4400 c16 17 17 with 34ns latency.
so on ryzen FCLK no need to be 1/2 mem frequency? and UCLK on auto?
How do you reach 3600 on Zen+? I can't go over 3200 no matter what
hello buildzoid. i have g skill trident z NEO 3600 cl 16 16 16 36 2x8GB. is it ok to mix it with trident z RGB 2x8 kit with the same frequency and the same timings.. cause i want to have dual rank set up. coz theres the NEO is out of atock here in japan. i jus wantt to run it on XMP. is there a performance difference in gaming?
i would love a seria where you are "fixing"/giving feedback to viewers timings i liked this video alot =D
Just overclocked my cl14 14-16-16-36 3600 up to 14-14-14-34 3800, I was failing memtest 7 but after some tweaks it's passing, testing prime95 now
Any thoughts on 64gb on Ryzen 5000 series? Mix of production and gaming, seems 2x32 is the best way to go?
Can u link me a thing to testmem5? I can’t seem to find it
Oh I made it. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely try 3600. And yes tRFC is on Auto, my motherboard is weird, RFC says 312 idk if that's ns or what.
Update: I hate RAM overclocking 😂, having trouble with stability no matter what I do.
I have this strange issue where I can run 2300 FCLK/4600 Mem just fine on my 5600G passing every memory stress test, but as soon as I load up any GPU intensive task (running on the 5600G iGPU), the system straight up power cycles. What could be the problem? Not enough power delivery on the vSoC rail? Mainboard is an MSI B450M Mortar Max
what a sweet video idea! sad i missed the boat.
The tRTP 11 "loose" on Blackdot's 6800c28 on Unify-X / Oloy Blade RGB? is actually as low as they can go on that board. You can only set a minimum of 12 in bios but Asrock Timing Config in windows shows it as 11.
can't you just set RDPRE to 6?
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking That works, same way of setting tWR less than 48 on MSI. By George he's done it !
I have msi b550 mpg gaming plus, ryzen 5600g, samsung b-die memory sticks. I overclocked my memory to 4200cl16 and I have some problems with my usb headphones, the sound is interrupted, I tested it with 3600MHz on memory and the problem is still here, but it appears less than on 4200MHz. And I noticed if I turn on SVM, the problem disappears, but BCLK drops down to 96MHz. Could anyone suggest what I can do about it?
Aww man too bad I missed this. My own full tune is heavily influenced on the knowledge I got from your videos.
Hello, do you have any advice for a DDR5 mobo with i7-12700 that I will be upgrading RAM to in the future using DDR5s that are no longer "premature"?