This is one great way to make an educational videos. Over the years that I've been following the channel, I always thought that it was seriouly missing something more instructional with details and reasons, something more focused on teaching people how and why to do each part rather than just watching it being done, "this here, that there". This video series is very good at that because it not only points out the mistakes that are being made by people but shows them what and why they are wrong and what they could try to do right or better, something like when you correct a student's exercise or solve problems in class.
A lot of people have learnt how to memory overclock from watching your videos. It's cool that people can show you what they have learnt and for you to look at their timings. There weren't as many roast this time around so people are learning more I guess. Thanks for your videos.
Im the guy with the M12A and basically any timing that wasnt lower couldn't go lower or I didnt get any performance improvement. Latency in Aida is between 35 and 34.5 ns. CPU running 52/48 (Ring gets pissy any higher). I run HT off because I get a lil boost in my games, mostly better lows. I came over from a 5800X because I found Ryzen memory overclocking to be on the boring side.
this dude helped me get 4500cl16 on my 10700k and with a delid im hoping for 53/48 and i have 33.2ns personally rtl 62 61 iol 7 7, he knows his stuff thats for sure
@@Ulexos CO +50mhz for cores so it boosted to 4900mhz on a single core, all core was around 4750mhz. Ram was DR 3800 14-8-13-13-21 tRC 36 with secondary/tertiary timings tightened down as far as I could get them. This was the same profile I used on my R5 3600. Which is why I got bored, decided to go 10th gen to see what RAM oc was like. Didnt lose any gaming performance, actually gained with my current settings.
love these videos, so much knowledge is bestowed upon us by looking at other people's timings and hearing your thoughts! Gives me good ideas when comparing them to my own timings i'm tinkering with!
43:12 Cezanne apparently can handle high SoC-voltage. When I was looking for iGPU overclocking guides for my 5600G, some of them recommended going straight to 1.3V SoC (iGPU is running off of vSoC). The 5600G is running 1.34V SoC for 2267MHz FCLK, but that's because my board's vSoC VRMs are terrible and as soon as I put any load on the iGPU, the vSoC drops by up to .1V. I'd love to push my FCLK and MEM-speed higher, and the CPU and memory could go higher, but only as long as the iGPU is in sleep mode. I can boot into memtest and have it run for hours, but as soon as windows boots and the iGPU boosts, the system just straight up hard resets 😒 so if you're running Cezanne with a dGPU, you can probably go much higher on the FCLK.
Apparently the TWRRDs being left as 11 was a byproduct of me trying to stabilize TRDWRs at 11 (which didn't work, Windows froze lol) and getting shit mixed up from how much of a clusterfuck Asus's organization is with Z690 and tertiaries. TWRRD_dr/dd are TM5 Absolute stable at 7/7 but I haven't really tested it with anything else.
Hey Buildzoid, is 3200 12-16-11-21-47 (tRCDWR 8) any good? My 1600AF hates anything over 3200 in Windows (even in just BIOS my record is 3466). Rev E. BTW
Is there a linux version of zentimings so I can toss up my threadripper settings? lol 8x8GB 4Gbit Samsung E-Die @ 2933 14-16-16-32-1T GD0. 1.45v Subs are mostly untouched other than small tweak to tRFC and tFAW 16 though. Really surprised these chips do 1T GD0 so easily, no other dual rank setup memory i've put in the system has done it, and this is quad ranks per channel lol.
Great video 📹 👍 BZ! Glad 😊 😃 to see 👀 that you give your viewers a chance to show off their talents 😉 👍! It would be OK 👍 👌 if you have more than an hour 😀 long 😀 video 📹!
I just set my ram to its 3200MHz xmp because if I attempt any adjustment of any sort with my ram with my MSI X470 Gaming plus it refused to POST. I tried using that tool you can download about a year ago but my ram wasn't included in it so I tried the closest ram to it but when I made one Tony adjustment of just .1 or anything I had to reset the bios.
Great input always learn a lot and would loooooove if you did a rt io timing vid for z390 boards still on my rog maximus hero xi till z790 boards drop later this year
Hello, can you make a complete guide of ddr5 overclocking please. I now that exists millions of guides, but I haven't seen 1 good for ddr5. I have seen that for ddr5 the difference is the secondary timings, primary timings dosen't do anything. I have Adata XPG Lancer 6000mhz 40 40 40 76 kit (no RGB😭) oced to 6400 36 36 36 72 1,40V but i only improved the velocity (98000mb/s 68ns). Now, I want to improve latencies but have no idea
MSI pro Z690-a wifi, 12700k (no kf, still needing the igpu😅), mars gaming ml360w, case is the mtallicgear neo qube white. The 12700k is oced to 5,2 p-cores, 4,1 e-cores, 39 ring, 1,355v and igpu 39x (1950mhz I think). If I go higher on ring, win 11 is in "black" when is starting, simply is slow.
Its not that primaries dont do anything, they just do "less". Blowing out the primaries to go max frequency isnt necessarily the best, but finding your scaling values for the primaries so get your best frequency/timings is what should be done.
Hi, I know that It isn't related to this video, but could you tell me do you know where can I find schematics for Gigabyte R9 390 Gaming G1? I saw that one MOSFET (K03B7) was burned on the right side of my gpu and I'm wondering if something else might be damaged or after replacing mosfet it would work. Card is workind and displaying but after installing drivers It keeps rebooting
Unfortunately not as many older systems or non-extreme memory voltages in the video (maybe they just didn't post their timings?) like in the first video. It's seems to be pretty difficult to get up-to-date and reliable OC info for older DDR4 platforms like X99 or Z170 whereas info for newer platform can be found easily.
Buildzoid have you tried to OC Ram on AMD FX? im asking because my CPU/NB goes to 2400mhz 1.4V(on load 1.47V), when i set my Ram to 2400mhz 1.65V and i don't know if it's safe for 24/7 daily use
@@hliasunknown rodgi. north bridges can cop some volts tho, i remember my mate daily ran a q6600 with 1.4. and since its off the main die it only has to deal with its own heat
how much more performance can i get in corona rendering if try to improve the 18-22-22-42 timings on my 64 gb viper steel kit, i believe the chips are hynix
Hey everyone can y’all help me with this I’m new to pc stuff and the thing that confuses me the most the the dual rank and single rank ram sticks it’s confusing me and I’m looking to buy viper and I’m worried about dual rank or single rank performance difference or whatever idk
I have same timings,speed and mobo as the apex xii guy but i cannot get my rtls/iols as low as his, i can only get 63/63/8/8 and my aida latency is 36.5. Vccio/sa 1.35/1.35 dram 1.6v with fan on top.
My cpu is really picky about bios. Anything up to 0901 4500 is EZ. Any bios after and I have trouble stabilizing 4000. I dont know why. Only other person I've seen with my RTL/IOLs is a friend I helped. I sold him a one of my old DR kits and he booted 61/62/7/7. He also input my timings before training. I knew the kit and told him what it can run. Not sure if having the timings in first causes the board to train tighter. But my newer kit trains 61/62/7/7 and I do iol offset to get 6/6.
I've got 4x8GB Viper Steel Samsung B-Die 4400 19-19-19-39 at 3400 @ 13-13-13-30 1.5v with training v at 1.5 on a AERO G DDR4. I cannot run the 4 sticks higher than 3600. Does anyone have anything running similarly at the best settings?
Dude I had adjusted my memory timings like 5 months ago or maybe even more. I am not gonna touch em but when the hell will you ask us to share our memory overclock stuff? Mine is not that good I know but mostly some of the timings you mention are even better than you're recommending... On asrock timing configurator and intel 11th gen mem controller, starting from the right side bottom it's like 7 7 4 8 5 7 22 24 15 15 15 15 6 8 4 8 6 54168 and then on the left side bottom to top 41 40 40 40 12 16 8 4 6 4 4 460 16 CR 1 tRas 28 trp21 trcd 21 tcl17, 4000 mbps gear mode 2, on intel 11400f cpu and b560 tomahawk wifi mobo, this thing does not overclock further, I don't have voltage control on the memory controller in this board therefore this is my daily system the way it overclocks it's probably fine... But tell me, will I gain 5% more performance if I reduce the clock speed of the memory but take it to gear 1 mode especially during code compiling, cause sometimes it takes like 20 minutes. I'd appreciate if I can take it down to like 17 minutes lol... I'll sell this system and then buy a 5950x and overclock the hell outta the memory... Also these dimms are all of them are hynix djr... at 1.45v I have all 4 slots occupied by total of 32 memory chips...
Ryzen Ram overclocking is such a stupid thing. First Setup - stable (saved it as profile) Next Setup - dont boot Loaded back to first profile - Dont boot anymore (8+ tries) Reset bios, loaded profile 1 - Dont boot Try really wacky settings - boot Set exactly same settings from profile 1 just per hand - boot WTF!!! Where is the dam logic?
21:14 In that case , he got gdm off He can’t use the formula trtp+trcdrd=tras. He need to stick to the tcl +trcd= trc Timing abit mess. But gdm off with 1.5T hmm…..…I rather he put it 2T. 2T pure is better than 1.5 T
Guys please help? Buildzoid, please help? I have a 5800X on a lowly Asus B450-f, and the RAM kit is Micron E-Die. 3600 Cl 16-19-19-19-36 at 1.35 volts. ( before I deleted DRAM calculator forever, the potentials for this kit were 121% quality and 4600 MHz CL 16, lol )
@@nickpowell7432 Because it is no longer a viable tool. It spits out "bad" timings. It is also out of date. You'll notice that the latest version doesn't even have Zen 3 CPUs in the selection process, nor is the mobo option list up to date iirc. and many people have reported their PCs experiencing dramatic shifts in stability, with an increase in either BSODs or random re-boots, plus errors in RAM that can lead to fatal system flaws if left unchanged. Most importantly, there exists a github page with proper instructions on how to overclock RAM safely and effectively, which doesn't require that DRAM calc thing.
I really really really dont get theese stupid "OC-Profiles" on B550 MSI-Boards. I run stable 1:1:1 4000Mhz on my system. Memtest5 = no erros Aida64 = higher Read/Writes and no erros I restarted the system 3 or 4 times. With no errors. I go into Bios, want to save exactly this State-of-Settings in a OC-Profile. I loaded the same Profile i save 1 sec before. System dont boot 🤷🤷🦧🦧🤷🤷🦧🦧 Wtf is wrong with this stupid "feature"? Now i reset again my BIOS, just to copy-paste everything from screenshot i made before.
Even if you dont improve average fps you can achieve better lows. In my case, the "gpu" bottleneck was actually cpu and I was able to get some extra performance out of my gpu. Which surprised me. Turns out 99% gpu utilization has some room for improvement.
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Time to sit back with a hot tea and do some learning from other people's mistakes. Kudos to everyone brave enough to submit their terrible timings
This is one great way to make an educational videos.
Over the years that I've been following the channel, I always thought that it was seriouly missing something more instructional with details and reasons, something more focused on teaching people how and why to do each part rather than just watching it being done, "this here, that there".
This video series is very good at that because it not only points out the mistakes that are being made by people but shows them what and why they are wrong and what they could try to do right or better, something like when you correct a student's exercise or solve problems in class.
first
funny AND original
joke
Stop cheating BZ
not more than once a month cause the ppl send in enough trolls alrdy xD
A lot of people have learnt how to memory overclock from watching your videos.
It's cool that people can show you what they have learnt and for you to look at their timings. There weren't as many roast this time around so people are learning more I guess. Thanks for your videos.
Im the guy with the M12A and basically any timing that wasnt lower couldn't go lower or I didnt get any performance improvement. Latency in Aida is between 35 and 34.5 ns. CPU running 52/48 (Ring gets pissy any higher). I run HT off because I get a lil boost in my games, mostly better lows. I came over from a 5800X because I found Ryzen memory overclocking to be on the boring side.
I’ve been buddies with this guy for a while now. Dude has put an insane amount of work into getting these results. Mad props JO:)
Proud
@@currentlykent4593 Thanks dude!
this dude helped me get 4500cl16 on my 10700k and with a delid im hoping for 53/48 and i have 33.2ns personally rtl 62 61 iol 7 7, he knows his stuff thats for sure
what were your settings + results back when you were on 5800x? am curious
@@Ulexos CO +50mhz for cores so it boosted to 4900mhz on a single core, all core was around 4750mhz. Ram was DR 3800 14-8-13-13-21 tRC 36 with secondary/tertiary timings tightened down as far as I could get them. This was the same profile I used on my R5 3600. Which is why I got bored, decided to go 10th gen to see what RAM oc was like. Didnt lose any gaming performance, actually gained with my current settings.
Awesome! I know this is tedious for you but we do appreciate it!
All the BDie... glad we got a couple of micron at least apart from the DDR5.
love these videos, so much knowledge is bestowed upon us by looking at other people's timings and hearing your thoughts! Gives me good ideas when comparing them to my own timings i'm tinkering with!
15:40 caught me so off guard I nearly choked on my coffee, Holy christ 😭😂
43:12 Cezanne apparently can handle high SoC-voltage. When I was looking for iGPU overclocking guides for my 5600G, some of them recommended going straight to 1.3V SoC (iGPU is running off of vSoC). The 5600G is running 1.34V SoC for 2267MHz FCLK, but that's because my board's vSoC VRMs are terrible and as soon as I put any load on the iGPU, the vSoC drops by up to .1V. I'd love to push my FCLK and MEM-speed higher, and the CPU and memory could go higher, but only as long as the iGPU is in sleep mode. I can boot into memtest and have it run for hours, but as soon as windows boots and the iGPU boosts, the system just straight up hard resets 😒 so if you're running Cezanne with a dGPU, you can probably go much higher on the FCLK.
Apparently the TWRRDs being left as 11 was a byproduct of me trying to stabilize TRDWRs at 11 (which didn't work, Windows froze lol) and getting shit mixed up from how much of a clusterfuck Asus's organization is with Z690 and tertiaries. TWRRD_dr/dd are TM5 Absolute stable at 7/7 but I haven't really tested it with anything else.
I didn't even know mem tweak existed getting that right away
tREFI 42069 is my new go to setting lmao
I know you say this would get boring but its deeply informative.
Hey Buildzoid, is 3200 12-16-11-21-47 (tRCDWR 8) any good? My 1600AF hates anything over 3200 in Windows (even in just BIOS my record is 3466).
Rev E. BTW
certainly better than stock
That's alotta twitter tabs opened.
Is there a linux version of zentimings so I can toss up my threadripper settings? lol 8x8GB 4Gbit Samsung E-Die @ 2933 14-16-16-32-1T GD0. 1.45v Subs are mostly untouched other than small tweak to tRFC and tFAW 16 though. Really surprised these chips do 1T GD0 so easily, no other dual rank setup memory i've put in the system has done it, and this is quad ranks per channel lol.
Like im gonna push my memory to be featured in the next video lol, anyone with me?.
Great video 📹 👍 BZ! Glad 😊 😃 to see 👀 that you give your viewers a chance to show off their talents 😉 👍! It would be OK 👍 👌 if you have more than an hour 😀 long 😀 video 📹!
the 420 69 timing read killed me lol
I just set my ram to its 3200MHz xmp because if I attempt any adjustment of any sort with my ram with my MSI X470 Gaming plus it refused to POST.
I tried using that tool you can download about a year ago but my ram wasn't included in it so I tried the closest ram to it but when I made one Tony adjustment of just .1 or anything I had to reset the bios.
Do you know the memory ICs you have?
Also important, which CPU are you using?
YOO I got featured
Great input always learn a lot and would loooooove if you did a rt io timing vid for z390 boards still on my rog maximus hero xi till z790 boards drop later this year
aww cut it right before mine but it's alright
I might experiment with more frequency once I get my 5600 this week
he's streaming atm on twitch so you could ask him in the chat
I didn't manage to put my outdated and obsolete DDR3 overclock :c
Wonder what was the Strix board stress tested with.
Great video once again! Is it possible to send you screenshots outside twitter? btw! Love your work in Tokyo Vice!
I really want to know how AMD 3d vcache is going to impact memory latency and bandwidth... Need a buildzoid video about that
Any thoughts on neo forza Faye 2x16gb 3600c18 ram? Good oc potential?
Hello, can you make a complete guide of ddr5 overclocking please. I now that exists millions of guides, but I haven't seen 1 good for ddr5. I have seen that for ddr5 the difference is the secondary timings, primary timings dosen't do anything. I have Adata XPG Lancer 6000mhz 40 40 40 76 kit (no RGB😭) oced to 6400 36 36 36 72 1,40V but i only improved the velocity (98000mb/s 68ns). Now, I want to improve latencies but have no idea
MSI pro Z690-a wifi, 12700k (no kf, still needing the igpu😅), mars gaming ml360w, case is the mtallicgear neo qube white.
The 12700k is oced to 5,2 p-cores, 4,1 e-cores, 39 ring, 1,355v and igpu 39x (1950mhz I think). If I go higher on ring, win 11 is in "black" when is starting, simply is slow.
Its not that primaries dont do anything, they just do "less". Blowing out the primaries to go max frequency isnt necessarily the best, but finding your scaling values for the primaries so get your best frequency/timings is what should be done.
i always miss out on submitting for these, next time (is what i'll say next time)
42069 ~ Nice.
Comment for the algorithm
im looking for a program to look on my full timings in windows .. for my 2700x and x470 tried hwinfo cpuz but they dont have full or idk how to show
Get ZenTimings
Hi, I know that It isn't related to this video, but could you tell me do you know where can I find schematics for Gigabyte R9 390 Gaming G1? I saw that one MOSFET (K03B7) was burned on the right side of my gpu and I'm wondering if something else might be damaged or after replacing mosfet it would work. Card is workind and displaying but after installing drivers It keeps rebooting
is 1t worth it on z370/z390? i can do 4000ish cr2 15-15-15 or what im doing now 3733 14-14-14 cr1
Unfortunately not as many older systems or non-extreme memory voltages in the video (maybe they just didn't post their timings?) like in the first video. It's seems to be pretty difficult to get up-to-date and reliable OC info for older DDR4 platforms like X99 or Z170 whereas info for newer platform can be found easily.
I found the rtl setting on my z490 maximus xii hero rather confusing
Hey yoooo
Buildzoid have you tried to OC Ram on AMD FX?
im asking because my CPU/NB goes to 2400mhz 1.4V(on load 1.47V), when i set my Ram to 2400mhz 1.65V and i don't know if it's safe for 24/7 daily use
ddr3 doesnt care about voltage from my experience, still got a haswell system running 1.8v memory at 2600 and its still rock solid stable
@@bigcazza5260 it's cpu/nb voltage not DDR voltage. even so i wouldn't go pass 1.65v on the ddr3
@@hliasunknown rodgi. north bridges can cop some volts tho, i remember my mate daily ran a q6600 with 1.4. and since its off the main die it only has to deal with its own heat
@@hliasunknown put it this way, if you can run 1.35 ish on an imc i dont see why a northbridge wont
how do i know if my G.skill Flare X are samsung B S or D/E die ?? thats whats is mystery for me
25:27 there are 2 dimms on mem channel A, and channel B is empty. real world performance cant be that good.
Dont worry i have tightened tWR and tRDRD_sg and ran hci to 700%
Epic
how much more performance can i get in corona rendering if try to improve the 18-22-22-42 timings on my 64 gb viper steel kit, i believe the chips are hynix
I guess rendering would probably benefit more from just tweaking the tRRD and tFAW timings.
Hey everyone can y’all help me with this I’m new to pc stuff and the thing that confuses me the most the the dual rank and single rank ram sticks it’s confusing me and I’m looking to buy viper and I’m worried about dual rank or single rank performance difference or whatever idk
I have same timings,speed and mobo as the apex xii guy but i cannot get my rtls/iols as low as his, i can only get 63/63/8/8 and my aida latency is 36.5. Vccio/sa 1.35/1.35 dram 1.6v with fan on top.
have you tried more SA? Also some CPUs and mem sticks just can't do low RTLs
My cpu is really picky about bios. Anything up to 0901 4500 is EZ. Any bios after and I have trouble stabilizing 4000. I dont know why. Only other person I've seen with my RTL/IOLs is a friend I helped. I sold him a one of my old DR kits and he booted 61/62/7/7. He also input my timings before training. I knew the kit and told him what it can run. Not sure if having the timings in first causes the board to train tighter. But my newer kit trains 61/62/7/7 and I do iol offset to get 6/6.
I've got 4x8GB Viper Steel Samsung B-Die 4400 19-19-19-39 at 3400 @ 13-13-13-30 1.5v with training v at 1.5 on a AERO G DDR4. I cannot run the 4 sticks higher than 3600. Does anyone have anything running similarly at the best settings?
Motherboard is the likely issue. 4x8GB is great but 4 sticks mean lower frequency on some boards. 2x8GB will hit higher frequencies.
Yay! Another episode of "judge my bone stock xmp timings"!
Dude I had adjusted my memory timings like 5 months ago or maybe even more. I am not gonna touch em but when the hell will you ask us to share our memory overclock stuff? Mine is not that good I know but mostly some of the timings you mention are even better than you're recommending... On asrock timing configurator and intel 11th gen mem controller, starting from the right side bottom it's like 7 7 4 8 5 7 22 24 15 15 15 15 6 8 4 8 6 54168 and then on the left side bottom to top 41 40 40 40 12 16 8 4 6 4 4 460 16 CR 1 tRas 28 trp21 trcd 21 tcl17, 4000 mbps gear mode 2, on intel 11400f cpu and b560 tomahawk wifi mobo, this thing does not overclock further, I don't have voltage control on the memory controller in this board therefore this is my daily system the way it overclocks it's probably fine... But tell me, will I gain 5% more performance if I reduce the clock speed of the memory but take it to gear 1 mode especially during code compiling, cause sometimes it takes like 20 minutes. I'd appreciate if I can take it down to like 17 minutes lol... I'll sell this system and then buy a 5950x and overclock the hell outta the memory... Also these dimms are all of them are hynix djr... at 1.45v I have all 4 slots occupied by total of 32 memory chips...
Ryzen Ram overclocking is such a stupid thing.
First Setup - stable (saved it as profile)
Next Setup - dont boot
Loaded back to first profile - Dont boot anymore (8+ tries)
Reset bios, loaded profile 1 - Dont boot
Try really wacky settings - boot
Set exactly same settings from profile 1 just per hand - boot
WTF!!! Where is the dam logic?
56:16
21:14
In that case , he got gdm off
He can’t use the formula trtp+trcdrd=tras.
He need to stick to the tcl +trcd= trc
Timing abit mess. But gdm off with 1.5T hmm…..…I rather he put it 2T. 2T pure is better than 1.5 T
Guys please help? Buildzoid, please help? I have a 5800X on a lowly Asus B450-f, and the RAM kit is Micron E-Die. 3600 Cl 16-19-19-19-36 at 1.35 volts.
( before I deleted DRAM calculator forever, the potentials for this kit were 121% quality and 4600 MHz CL 16, lol )
Why did you delete dram calc forever
@@nickpowell7432 Because it is no longer a viable tool. It spits out "bad" timings. It is also out of date. You'll notice that the latest version doesn't even have Zen 3 CPUs in the selection process, nor is the mobo option list up to date iirc.
and many people have reported their PCs experiencing dramatic shifts in stability, with an increase in either BSODs or random re-boots, plus errors in RAM that can lead to fatal system flaws if left unchanged.
Most importantly, there exists a github page with proper instructions on how to overclock RAM safely and effectively, which doesn't require that DRAM calc thing.
I really really really dont get theese stupid "OC-Profiles" on B550 MSI-Boards.
I run stable 1:1:1 4000Mhz on my system.
Memtest5 = no erros
Aida64 = higher Read/Writes and no erros
I restarted the system 3 or 4 times. With no errors.
I go into Bios, want to save exactly this State-of-Settings in a OC-Profile.
I loaded the same Profile i save 1 sec before.
System dont boot 🤷🤷🦧🦧🤷🤷🦧🦧
Wtf is wrong with this stupid "feature"?
Now i reset again my BIOS, just to copy-paste everything from screenshot i made before.
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Tweaking your RAM if you're both CPU and GPU bottlenecked: does it make any sense?
Even if you dont improve average fps you can achieve better lows. In my case, the "gpu" bottleneck was actually cpu and I was able to get some extra performance out of my gpu. Which surprised me. Turns out 99% gpu utilization has some room for improvement.
I wish I didn't buy viper patriot 4400hz can't even run at 3600 unstable with msi z590 carbon + 10850k it's ram defective or cpu is bad.