Reacting to RAM timings AGAIN!
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The zoids low effort videos are better than anyone else's high effort offerings
even his own🤣
They have 60 thousand dollars red cameras and still can't top this. I love it😆
G'day Buildzoid,
While they may be frustrating for you I am enjoying these "Looking at RAM Timings" videos,
they are really helping to sink in what NOT to do & I get a good laugh at your reaaction for those major No Nos 😁
Sometimes Buildzoid pauses for so long I have to double check to make sure I didn't accidentally pause my video on mobile, bless him lol. Keep up the good work!
(5800x3D, 32GB. DDR4 3800 CL14) ❤️
X570S Dark Hero.
Love these, they're seriously really informative and I hope you keep doing them.
Couple notes:
The "bad" Micron B was because it's 32gb dimms, you just can't push the timings on most 2x32 setups very low.
Same for the later weirdness with the 2x32 setup of what was *probably* 16bit Hynix (A/M)JR because that seems to be all you can get in 90% of 32gb dimms right now for DDR4. Mine's sitting at 3866 but the timings absolutely refused to go below 18/22/20/28/48 without dropping the clock to 3600 or below. It was nearly stable at 3933, but errored after a few hours of ycruncher, so I just dropped the speed a tick instead of fiddling.
The "this happened during my struggle" screenshot seems to be Aida showing 67300MB/s for Read instead of 57000, but that might just be Aida being Aida since none of the other stats changed much.
I enjoy these so much. It's a lot of info. But I mainly just take in what's relevant to my hardware.
37:08 - Intel 7400 must mean i5-7400, this matches the H110 platform which supports 6th and 7th gen. "H" means it's a "business" chipset and x10 means it's the cheapest one Intel offered...
So, non-overclockable Kaby Lake, ultra locked-down chipset on a business oriented budget motherboard so I really doubt it offers BCLK overclocking. About the only saving grace is that it only has 2 memory slots, not that it matters much given all the other limitations.
I"am the guy, yes it's an i5-7400 in this chipset, it doesn't has bclk, what is a shame
This is high effort... 😅
RAM timings reaction video. Liked and commented before watching.
Also, I have been listening to minusR314 on repeat the past ten minutes because it's such a fucking awesome track
Always picking up good tips from your for mem tweaking. Thanks BZ
I love this videos. learning a lot. Amd 5900x, strix E x570 with 64gb 4x16 ballistix 3600cl16 micron e-die @3800 16-18-18-38-60 1.38v
Wow i have missed this again. Awesome video, its awesome that you making theses videos! If i catch it in time i might get mine in there, would like to hear your input on mine..
I would actually be interested in the new GSkill Trident Z7 Neo timings. They offer three kits at 6000 MT/s.
Timings are: CL 30-38-38-96 | CL 32-38-38-96 | CL 36-36-36-96
For me as a layman they seem pretty much even are they not?
this: 36-36-36-96. Is samsung DDR5 and sucks for overclocking
For refresh interval testing you could put it into sleep mode during memtest
hope zoid reacts to this idea
Even though ya hate these vids, I still love them. Good to learn a thing or two. Still having trouble to go above 4400 CL22 with my 4x8GB kit on my 5950X, no issues on 4000C18 and 4200C19 but anythin above doesnt want to boot yet xD But also strugglin cuz sometimes latency has spikes to 250ns for some reason, standard is around 50ns
Hi Zoid. VR sim guy here running a 4090 and 5800X3D on an Aorus X570S Pro AX I know nothing about memory except that the 64gb of Vengeance 3000mhz 16-20-20-38 sucked. A buddy convinced me to get some tighter G-skill stuff. Sanity prevailed (I think) and I spent £250 on a 32GB Trident Neo 3600Mhz 16-16-16-36 (b-die dual rank) kit. People were saying they were able to tighten this kit to 13-15-15-30 without too much trouble.
My question for you is whether this trident kit is likely to improve my 1% lows in situations where a game overflows the L3 cache on the X3D and needs to dip into ram. To my limited understanding it makes sense that the new ram is now 1:1 and the timings are reasonable. Interested to hear your thoughts please. (New kit has not arrived yet)
One day my x99 AliExpress build will be included 😭
I swear it
heyyyyyyyyy BZ can you make a video talking about Ryzen 7000 and this ridiculous "It was designed to run at 90c" trend?
Isn't degradation tied more to Temperature than voltage?
As the previous commenters have said: I'm also really curious on your opinion of this weird TJ Max "normal" operation on the 7000 series...
I mean.. Aren't they purposely making these chips last, like 5 years less, than their normal life expectancy?
Isn't this obvious planned obsolescence?
Why is only Gamers Nexus mentioning this as the real problem it is? And even they aren't sounding the alarm as much as I would like to see.
A chip that, under normal use like going from gaming to browsing to maybe some editing, going to 95c and 30c on a daily basis... Won't it just wear out the internals on a much quicker pace, than a cpu that keeps going from 30c to 60 or 70 ocasionally?
Won't they probably lose all that boost clock headroom in a couple of years...
The way I see it, all this boosting to 5.7GHz, will probably dial down to 5.5 in 2024.. And by 2026 will probably only reach 5.0GHz by the time they are 5 years old. Constantly getting fed with high voltages and temperatures. Expanding and contracting for a decade will probably kill all these chips
^ just in time for that mandatory upgrade to Ryzen 10000... Jeez
Trying to get my hands on dual rank nanya b die was hoping to have it before the next reacts
Underrated ICs
Nice format, never seen something like that before.
Hey Buildzoid, what you think about the normalized 95 celcius degrees for CPU by AMD? For me running at that voltages at that temperatures only means degradation over years since the manufacturer is the same and the material is the same at higher density. What's your thoughts about it?
Yeah my theory is that’s how they will force people to upgrade
is there a video about the best DDR5 memory kits now?
Thanks Dude
20:35 I checked BIOS and it's on auto showing 10/5, updated BIOS and it's now actually 10/5, weird BIOS bug.
edit: I have no idea what ASUS BIOS is doing, tRFC on auto reads 312 in BIOS and sets 653. RDWR/WRRD defaults to 11/1 on JEDEC and 18/7 on not JEDEC. Don't trust BIOS readout I guess.
I wish you'd do a guide specifically for c-die kits
55:54 Actually Samsung 8Gb C die can do 3800 C17 with 1.38V of VDIMM but of course, awful primaries. Once you hit 1.4V , performance starts to drop like a cliff. I have 2 sticks of Gskill Trident-Z 3600-C18-22-22 .
you need to give these rams a go in a laptop that can take overclock... they are Gskill SO-DIMM... F4-3800c18q-32gts .... ddr4-3800 at cl18-18-18-38.
Hey buildzoid can you explain AMDs new XMP competitor EXPO? Is it any better?
Thanks for including me :D
The 2666 9-10-9 had me laughing 😂
Further goals for my CJR will be FCLK & MCLK to 1900 with mostly the same timings. Yeah i wasn't sure if 5 5 on SD + DD would post but no issues on that front it seems.
Put my 8x8 4Gb E-Die in there, but not fast enough I guess lol oh well. Its only half-tuned anyways.
Ah man what a shame, my post wasn't included. Really wanted the input. Anyway, next time then
These videos are fun.
32:08 Img1 1T, img2 2T
Buildzoid, will you go with Intel or Ryzen this gen?
On 12th REFI register is 2 bits longer than it was, and it was 16 bits.
2^16 = 65536
2^18 = 4*65536 = 262144
Is there a MemTweakIt for Asus Strix B660 boards?
6:23 the guy put the dimms on channel A only so single channel ? wtf
no comment on model ram used...
I'm stuck @ 6400 cl 30-37-37-28-4/4-16-320-100.000-10/7-17/17-9/7-56-44 Hynix M-Die @ 1.45v and would love to MemTweakIt so I don't need to reboot every freakin time I want to change my timings..is there an Asus B660 Strix Gaming - G MemTweakIt version out there?
Low level effort content xdd love it man
Hrmm… 6:37
VSOC is auto
VDDP and the 2 VDDG’s autoed at 0.968v or something so i set them to 1001 which gives 1.0005v anything lower is 0.968v (looks better as 1.0005v)
Would raising the VDDP or VDDG voltages help with primary’s, tWR or tRDWR?
If not i will leave them as they are
Best you can buy at that density and 4000MHz is 18,22,22,42,unknown so not too far off cus this density nukes your timings
2x32 kits at:
th-cam.com/video/-W8BMzL1K2g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jxLqdhN_5bNk6nOd&t=427
th-cam.com/video/-W8BMzL1K2g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6F8pgB53Y79uV1JX&t=1166
where can i post mine
32:06 its Aida bug! 67k read :)
41:00 1 stick of RAM, single channel, single rank, 8GB total.
Hello guys, need some help tuning the timings for Kingston KF432C16BB/8 3200mhz CL16. From all my google searches, it seems that this memory uses Kignstons own die. Glad if someone can come up with something.
Ryzen 5 5600X
B550M AORUS ELITE
GDM Enabled
1T
FCLK 1600
I have an asus b350 board doing 3800MHZ and 1900 FCLK 😀
4:00 is running single channel with both dimms on the same channel?
edit:i see its just a 2 dimm mobo so maybe a glitch in asrock timing configurator.
That is a software error. All Gigabyte Tachyon boards have 2 DIMM slots. Of course dual channel memory if you put in 2 sticks of RAM .
can you suggest me any brand of decent ddr4 bdie?
Didnt fit mine in... question do u look at timings emailed to you or just twitter etc..?
just twitter
My 6600 cl 34 g.skill dies after 31 days ( all time was on 1,4 V = xmp votage ) it has additional fun 120mm nocuta over the ram. So sad story im waiting for my money back
Is there single rank DDR5 memory?
Most of it is
Is there any OC tool for windows that automatically do this analysis and make suggestions?
yea its called discord
None, just trial and error with stress testing programs. We could help you out on the AHOC discord if you subscribe on BZ patreon
1usmus DRAM calculator is probably the closest thing you want but only meant for Ryzen .
RAM overclocking is never easy , the manual tuning is still the prefered option
Do it Non-S8B edition lol
These Samsung B-die boys are getting detected in ns by BZ
30:27 you're right, it should be at 1 all the time. 35:54 guy wants to destroy his cpu imc and 2V with DDR4??? This is clearly an example how NOT to run things, if you do not want them destroy in a week or three. Edit: 7400 - hee meens i3-7400 kaby lake
didn't rip mine apart sad 😢
bro with 12gen i5 and rtx 3050 ...
ddr4 ?..ddr 5? (both)
suggest me 2 budget motherboard not heat
Well next time I'll actually try instead of just showing XMP, but it gave me a good laugh though. Maybe I'll do a before/after in the same screenshot
Love that fake 2133mhz fclk...
cr2 its (-133Mhz) lol
RtRT = 5
50:06 - that super confusing screen came from HwInfo64. Makes me wonder why I can’t understand much around memory overclocking… 😂