It's sort of out of tune with him. "Off base" if you will. Normally I wouldn't bash a game I haven't played much, but if you want to play a classic megaman game play number 2. I heard that game rocks man. Or you can roll with this one too. Even though it is kinda drum but maybe that's just me. Anyway, i'm pretty beat. Peace
The levels are somewhat interesting as well, taking advantage of the Wonderswans tate-mode for vertical stages. The bosses can be somewhat annoying though, having weakspots that only a couple of pixels big in some cases. But yeah, decent game, and kind of a good plot too!
The levels are designed for Mega Man. They play just like any other Mega Man game. People just usually choose Bass first, and since he breaks the game in half with his move set, newbies don't realize how precise classic Mega Man platforming actually is.
@@superchiptunetv2291 Or it's just a throwback to Mega Man 1, where in order to complete the Wily Stages, you need a weapon NO ONE ever tells you about unless you go and read the manual, which isn't even there in some collections. Mega Man & Bass, however, does not use a secret weapon, so there's a good chance you'll be familiar with it at the point it's needed.
I think a better way to put it is that Bass is far superior to megaman in general, but there are many situations that are extremely difficult with bass and easy with megaman, especially once you have ice wall and can duplicate the jump height, his shots go through walls and bass shots cant which is more important than most realize and the charge shot especially, boss invincibility frames and bass having a machinegun pea shooter makes that just the most obvious example but it’s pervasive in the levels too I always play as bass still but they definitely did make megaman useful
Bass is not at all OP. Neither Mega Man or Bass is better than each other since Mega Man has a much easier time dealing with enemies and bosses, has vastly superior items, but Bass is better suited to the platforming.
@@lakentrkfudge honestly they're kinda equal overall. For combat, megaman has the charge shot and can move while shooting. bass has aimable rapid fire. Levels have areas that one can get to that the other can't due to double jump/slide. For troublesome platforming, megaman has beat, bass has treble adapter, etc.
@@Apotheosister The other thing they also screwed up is that, why the heck does this game had to be on the GBA? The screen crunch is really terrible, and barely accomodated for that. The only good thing was the soundtrack. It was better than most SNES to GBA ports. But, if they had waited for the DS instead, the game wouldn't have been so hellish.
oh man, Megaman & Bass (or Rockman & Forte, whatever) is my favorite one of the series, i was pretty bummed when it wasn't in the legacy collection. I wish they would release a proper version of the game without being the terrible GBA port
There's a hack that lets you swap characters on the fly. It vastly improves the overall game, as you can mainly tackle the levels with Bass (for whom the stages feel designed for) and the bosses with Mega (for whom the bosses feel designed for), etc.
@@megaedge2762 haha you forgot the robot masters (not tengu man and astro man) and cold mans slow thing so lol, this is wrong, this is no longer invaild
Yep, 100% impossible to see spikes that were clearly on screen the couple seconds before lol. This clip in particular, it almost seems like he purposefully maneuvered to kill himself to get footage as evidence of "bad" game design
I vividly remember playing and beating the GBA version of this game when I was in my teenage years because I was obsessed with Battle Network Bass at the time. Looking back now through this video...I have no idea how I managed that.
They have yet to make a Gentle Man robot master. I mean the pun is right there, and if the design were to turn being a bit silly, he could just be made into an Easter egg joke boss. If not, maybe an npc - like a shopkeep or upgrade merchant.
8:44 "Remember when I said you should start off at Cold Man? Because he's the only one that's actually kind of decent." I'd disagree. While yes, most of the bosses in this game are disasters, Ground Man is an absolutely excellent robot master. His pattern (save for the Spread Drill attack, which can feel inconsistent at times) is top-notch, his attacks are clearly telegraphed, his fight is very rewarding to learn, and the Pirate Bomb is an absolute joy to use against him, should you choose to go with his weakness. Attaching a bomb to him and having him try to burrow underground, only to get launched out by an explosion is just the cherry on top.
@@NeoGraena just stay the right distance from him to angle yourself to be able to shoot the right snowmen and try to count down the seconds from the last time he jumped. Just use your reflexes to carry your self at this point.
I love this game to pieces. I had the GBA version when it came out, and I beat the SNES version when I was in high school. I still listen to the soundtrack regularly. I have played all of the main series and this title is my favorite. It just stands out for me. I think the game was designed around playing as Bass. I think playing as Megaman should be viewed as a hard mode.
I love it too, the difficulty is so good, it is what I want in my games, a good challenge, beat it easily with Rock and it is a blast, favorite of the classic series, too also the OST a banger
This is one of my favorite game in the series. MegaMan wasn't known to be an easy game. Would say that MegaMan 1-6, 9-10 is more difficult easily. So I'm not sure how this can be considered bad if those are good.
Interesting video, however I do have to say that a lot of your complaints about MM&B can be directly applied to several numbered NES entries as well. With the exception of the first two games, the boss weaknesses are often really hard to guess, and memorization as well as cheap deaths are almost part of the experience. As an example for this comparison, I will take Mega Man 3. Since I thought checking the weaknesses in the database of the legacy collection or on the wiki was cheap, it took me forever just to finish the first two levels. I had to constantly try out different robot masters to see if they could be weak against my stuff only to die to some petty trap halfway through and get a game over. And that's not even talking about the Doc Robot levels, where you have no checkpoints for the first part boss included, meaning you have to do the entire level again if you die against the boss, and the bosses are basically beefed up versions of the eight MM2 robot masters. It. is. tedious beating all of them. Then there's the point of cheap traps and hard sections. I think the balloon section looks alright, specially compared to the rush jet/marine sections of the Doc Robot stages where you get one shot to do it, since your meter will be too low to attempt it again after respawning and the upgrades won't respawn with you, basically rendering your lives after dying at this part useless as you have to do the entire level from scratch. Compared to that bullsh*t the balloons look rather fine, especially since you won't lose much progress since they're at the beginning. Basically, MM&B is hard, yes. I am not here to deny that. I will say, however, that so are the main line games. You will die a lot and have lots, and lots, and lots of game over screens if you play without a walkthrough. But as you repeat these levels, you become increasingly better at them and start understanding the level design more to the point that parts you found to be hard will appear as easy at the end of a playthrough of any Mega Man game. I think passing off MM&B just because of its difficulty isn't really justified at all if you consider that exact point to be what many like about the series.
I think a lot of the problem is that people grew up with the older mega man games. They have nostalgia for the games and played them when they were younger and more patient. They no longer notice the cheap traps, strange design flaws, and unfair level design, because they've known the tricks to get around it their whole lives. But they dont think about it that way, so when they see the same problems in a game they're not familiar with they don't compare them.
@Speedo Sausage I know. My profile picture used to be Sora from kingdom hearts, then I changed it to Shantae but due to the 90 days thing I can't change my name Yet.
I remember having nothing but this and Wario Ware Twisted back in the day. I remember loving this game on the GBA 'cause I didn't know any better. Playing it a few years later on a SNES emulator made me realize the game I've been robbed of.
This whole game is like that, the solutions aren't obvious, it's more like a punishing puzzle platformer.. That instant kill fire? Ice pillar is just tall enough and lasts long enough to stand on to avoid it, I don't know of anyone who figured that out though, everyone just brute forces it and rams into the cannons.
@@JetWolfEX they gave you an extra life exactly so it wouldn't be punishing. They use the ballons later in the stage. And guess what, antdude didn't show footage of them. You know why he didn't? Because he learned how balloons work because the game **forced him to learn** without taking lives away from him. It may be bad design to have a life + death trap setup, but it's stupid to ignore why it was done and how it helped you. It makes you look oblivious. Both antdude and you two are doing it.
Giving an extra life just because they knew it was too difficult is bad level design. Instead of finding a way for the player to get it right on the first try if they notice what to do, they give you an extra life because they know you're probably gonna get killed first time around, and didn't bother trying to make that part actually decently designed
I actually just replayed this for the first time in like 8 years, last week, so the timing of this review was pretty cool! That said, I really enjoy this game and many of the things you found frustrating I didn't, whether that's because I'm just used to it/remember them, or expect memorization bullshit in Megaman games. I dunno! Didn't bug me. Either way, cool review!
I loved this game back in the day. I chose to play as Bass from the get go and never even looked at Megaman, I found the level of difficulty rewarding, but I haven't played a lot of Megaman games, so mine is kind of an outsider perspective.
you should play more mega man games they are all great games especially the X series which I personally enjoy more over the classic series. they are separated into 2 timelines people often call the original timeline the classic line and then X takes place like 100 years into the future or something and all the original characters are dead the humans characters it is unknown what happen to the OG robots.
Idk man, I played this waaay back when I first found out about emulation and I remember liking it a lot. I just started it again on my Pi, but given, I’m into Bass and that’s how I played it back then and now I’m more of an X fan, and Bass plays much more like X than MM does. I understand your points of contention, but I just don’t remember having these same problems back then. Maybe I’ll see it this time thru Also, I never really played many of the original MM games, I started with MMX, then went on to only play MM7, 8 and 11 in the OG series. Like I said, I’m much more of an X fan. Played X1-X4 and Zero. Id say still give it a try if you like the X series more, and go with Bass instead.
Yeah, this video of his was just awful. Then again, the only videos of his that I find moderately tolerable are his Kirby videos. He basically just slams anything that isn't piss easy. I found Mega Man & Bass incredibly well designed, though I can't defend the flying tank boss lol.
So....am I the only one who agrees with remake or rebrake when they said this game is a bit over exaggerated on the difficulty Edit: side note, when I found out this game existed, Burner man became my favorite, mostly by design
Burnerman looks hot(HA!) to me too but boi fighting him is way different story, also I like Magicman and Groundman better in term of design but Burnerman is still good looking. About difficulty, yeah I feel you. It's not very good by any mean but for me it's still a damn fine game, I'd complain more about X6 or GOD FORBID X7 than this game.
@@YoungAvJoe I can definitely agree with that, it isn't my favorite out of the classic Mega Man games (that would be MM8 for me), but I feel like it has some really fun designs for all of the bosses, although Cold man is slightly too bland for me. Also I don't know why, but for Mega Man and Bass I have always thought that it would have been a cool idea if they made it for GameCube at the time and have it be 3D since there was pretty much no classic Mega Man on the system that I know of
@@FrothyMilkshake19 I want to love this game; SO BADLY! The music is easily one of the best in the series, the graphics are impressive for SNES standards, and the robot master designs are very cool and unique (excluding astro and tengu man). But, I just can't ignore the things this game does wrong.
Seeing so many many people speak negatively about this game, but also a few people doing the opposite. Gives me confused feelings and actually makes me want to play the game to cement my opinion.
Although I disagree with a lot of the complaints, I still hate the game. It’s still worth playing though if you love Mega Man to death. Don’t play the GBA port, that’s not a good first impression.
I guess I should provide context for my experience with the series. I've played 2,7,8,9,10,11,X1 and X4 and outside of the series, some other hardcore platformers I've played are: super meat boy, celeste and dead cells. As for games in a similar vein: azure striker gunvolt 1+2 and mighty gunvolt burst. So I guess I'm pretty experienced.
0:32 Upon my first playthrough, I shared the same opinion, but every time I replay it, it gets better. Now, it's one of my top 5 favorite in the franchise and my all-time favorite Classic series game.
1st, try astroman without his weakness, 2 the yoku blocks... man 3. that section in astromna you complained about, never died to it, 4 YOU DO NOT NEED TO JUMP ON THE BALOON SECTION 5 theres ANOTHER infinite life before king jet
Megaman & Bass must be a damn complicated game... But without a doubt its music is one of the best in the series Dynamo Man, Astro Man, Ground Man, The King Boss Battle, those are masterpieces
Honestly, I was kind of underwhelmed when I played this game for the first time. The difficulty is high, but it's not like it's one of the hardest games ever made. I'd say the final level is the only one I would truly consider "bullshit", and while really hard, the game does present some pretty fun and dynamic levels and bosses. I mean, I'd say these bosses are more interesting than your standard "jump and shoot a thing" style bosses that the classic series was becoming oversaturated with before 7. I just thought this game was a fun challenge, and though Bass makes it easier, I usually run through it as Megaman now that I know how the game is. Your first 1-3 playthroughs will be nightmarish, yes, but once you get the hang of it and start playing a bit more patiently, I think the game gets a hell of a lot better. You don't see a lot of other games getting shit on for being hard the first time around, so I think this game deserves that same kind of chance.
@@gabegriffin5984 I mean, games taking a few runs to get good at really isn't that uncommon to begin with. Just look at Dark Souls, a game that takes a long ass time just to get decent at. I don't think reducing frustration and getting good at the game means that the game is bad for the time you struggle, because if that was the case, most hard games out these days would all be considered shit.
@@tronmerncutsman thing is most hard games nowadays have reasons to keep coming back, be it ng+ or some other post-game content here its like...alright. I understand how to play as bass now. the only reason I have to come back is to play through as megaman, a fundamentally different character
@@tronmerncutsman the difference here is with a game like Dark Souls, you have a 60 hour rpg that probably takes about 5 hours to really grasp the combat and playstyle, and then you have the entire rest of the game to enjoy, with this game like you said, the first 1-3 play throughs are going to be nightmarish. Why would you want to play a game that you don't enjoy 3 times over? What do you gain from that?
I seriously liked this game, it's one of my favorites. The difficulty was one of a kind, enemies were infuriating and all of that but, this geniunely hurt my feels... sadface
I guess my familiarity with this game makes me biased, but damn do I love it. It was my very first Megaman game and I honestly don't think I would have turned into such a fan if this game wasn't brutally punishing. It had an incredible mystique for me precisely because it took me YEARS to beat it despite its short length. Talk about a lasting impression. P.S: the balloon bit in Tengu Man's stage becomes much easier once you realize you can simply walk off one balloon and land on the next.
i just love the fact that Arins "oh yeah, LEMONS" has become a meme in the the megaman community, or i could be wrong and it's always been a meme in said circle, at any rate, LEMONS!
I know I'm in the minority here and I'm very much aware of this game's flaws, but I actually like this one, a lot more than most. I also don't think the "screen crunch" on the GBA version is as debilitating as everyone claims. But that's also likely because that is in fact the only version I've ever played.
I think if you only counted the people who have actually played this game, you aren't in the minority. This game is beloved by many. It's just become a punching bag over the years because a few people on the internet with influence said it was bad.
Megaman V on Gameboy got forgotten by Capcom themselves depsite that game being totally different from all the classic Megaman games. Megaman V is the best underrated Megaman game by far.
The Mega Man Cave you know the drill, something isn't edgy enough for murican audience, and the rest of the world has to suffer with butchered English versions of games because of this..
Blue Knight Have you played it recently? Nostalgia can be a powerful thing. I have, and it is definitely hard. Not that AntDude didn’t screw up in some places, but it’s definitely frustrating, especially the second King stage.
@@bhull242 Not really, each time i play this, i just seems to improve. Which is technically what gives it much replay value like the other Mega Man games.
@@bhull242 I played it recently, and it's not as bad as people make it out to be, if I'm being honest. Maybe I'm biased, since when I played the SNES version, I used the player switch patch (mostly to get all the CDs on one save file) and the Equip All Items patch that the Rockman 4 Minus Infinity guy made, but I managed to get through the game okay with enough practice. Although I'm not doing myself many favors since I also thought Mighty No. 9 was okay. I usually just stick to the tried and true method of practicing and recognizing patterns in order get through these kinds of games, and it tends to work out more often than not.
*"At some point in the future I do want to go into more depth with these games"* Just don't review all ten MegaMan games in a two parter video like Caddy had you'll maybe go nuts. ;)
As a kid i always joked about astroman being weak to cards, i used to say that its his weakness because he is so impressed by a card trick, because of the animation he does when you hit him with the cards.
Funny thing that I was just playing Mega Man 8-Bit DeathMatch before watching this video, I gotta say, Mega Man is really kicking in this year, and I love it! :D By the way, speaking of Mega Man & Bass, I was always confused with this game since it had Mega Man 8 graphics but it was a game that came out on the Super FamiCom, now I know what was going on at the time :) But... Was it worth it? I don't know, I thought this game was hard because I thought I was bad at Mega Man games but NO! The game is actually hard!!! I'm glad this video exists, thanks AntDude. 1:56 Mega Man 7, 8 & Bass FamiCom Edition!
12:30 This isn't exactly unique to Megaman and Bass. At all. Every Mega Man game has had 4 bosses in the Wily Stage. Plus, the drill hallway in the beginning of the video is a constant staple in the Mega Man series! Honestly, this review felt kind of... bad. Trial and error puzzles are a part of Mega Man games, and taking time to tackle the stage instead of blasting through enemies makes the game Mega Man, not Mario 2.
The game has some real bad enemy placement, particularly as Mega Man and its idea of teaching you a mechanic before throwing you off the deep end is to simply give you a respawning extra life before said section, which is an incredibly clumsy way to teach players through playing. Still, I found the actual platforming to be perfectly servicable for most of the game, I enjoyed the extensive item shop and that satisfying feeling when you beat a tough stage still rings true in this title as well. Plus the game is an incredible technical achievement for the SNES' graphical capabilities. After playing through this game as both Mega Man and Bass, I'd say my experience was a fairly pleasant one considering I went in expecting to hate it. I'd still replay any of the numbered entries before this one, though.
Andy I don’t play mega man that much but I just feel like the game throws random shit at you expecting you to doge everything maybe that’s why I stop playing after 5 minutes
Nah, sorry. I tried giving this game a genuine try, even with save states, but I'm not gonna put up with it's fucking bullshit trial and error level design and horrible enemy placement. Easily the worse in the Classic series, and I'll easily push it aside as a spin-off over it being real canon.
Its so weird, to me, megaman 1 is more dificult than this, this and the seven were the only ones I plaid and ti isnt that dificult as you said... In my case.
Ant I love you but whenever you mention the games difficulty, it seems like you're just really bad at it, some of the deaths you showed looked more like incompetent playing more than anything.
I know know know know know know know that up at nonsense was blown out of proportion The guy was never game journalists they this had him do it for some reason the old games can be done from criticism because they're bad is dumb thing Go ahead is lots of nonsense that are just poorly designed like randomly generated clouds what the hell were they thinking and then whenever someone criticizes it is love you too see the good you suck
That cuphead nonsense was blown out of proportion That guy was never a game journalist they just had him do it for some reason Now whenever people say you don't like the game because it's poorly designed and it's hard to tell just say oh you just don't like it 'cause it's hard This videos over 40% dislikes even though everything he said was a valid point th-cam.com/video/AYH2deCwb3M/w-d-xo.html
I guess I'm the only one who actually likes this game (no lie, it's my favorite MegaMan game). Edit: Years later and Mega Man 9 is my absolute favorite. Also, I think I like 7 just a little more than Mega Man & Bass, though I still love this game.
*_Any of the numbered ones? What 'bout the Megaman Arcade fighting games, their port(s) to the NeoGeo Pocket Color, Rockboard for the Famicom, Megaman: The Wily Wars for the SEGA Genesis, the mobile phone ports of the first 6 Megaman games, and Rockman & Forte: Challengers From The Future for the Bandai Wonderswan?_*
I think most people are talking about the tank boss on the GBA version. The screen crunch really really makes it a bit of a nightmare.
Who even plays that version of the game? Is it because they can't read Japanese?
@@HMZeroTwo Because it's the only version of the game that's been released on the virtual console
Even without the Screen Crunch,The Constant Flash Bangs,which personally hurt my eyes,and the Randomness of the Boss still makes it a trash boss imo
It’s actually impossible as Mega Man sometimes. You get another respawning life, but if the fist destroys the bottom platform, he can’t make the jump
@@theimpersonator7086 that's the jet boss
Until you’ve collected EVERY DISC IN THE GAMEBOY ADVANCE VERSION you will never truly know the pain that this game is capable of inflicting.
I remember the offscreen ladders, had to use a walkthrough...
Haha yeah, been there, by CD 96 finding any discs left is a real headscratcher!
The base game is amazing, but yeah, searching for the CDs is not something I would recommend to anyone. It's not worth it.
@@agreedboarart3188More like... the Bass game. I see myself out.
Megaman and Knuckles.
Sonic 3 and Bass.
New Funky Mode!
Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series™!
Pocket edition
Expanded edition
expanded pocket edition
"Oh, there were spikes there? Sorry, I wasn't squinting."
*Highlights the clear indication of spikes that I noticed on my GBA screen as a kid*
So, I guess you didn't like Megaman & Bass that much.
I guess you could say it's...
Not your Forte.
It's sort of out of tune with him. "Off base" if you will. Normally I wouldn't bash a game I haven't played much, but if you want to play a classic megaman game play number 2. I heard that game rocks man. Or you can roll with this one too. Even though it is kinda drum but maybe that's just me. Anyway, i'm pretty beat. Peace
*OVERCHARGES THE MEGABUSTER*
@@Latoshajsinspiration boi
The game gives me the Blues
@@Latoshajsinspiration Bass' name in Japan is Forte
This game is basically Mega Man: The Lost Levels, especially when you play as Mega Man.
This game is basically "We made this for Bass but without Mega Man no one would buy it so..."
I think the levels are really easy with megaman. His charge shot is everything. You just have to have patience and get better at it
@@megamaster0 Double jump and shoot in all directions. Either the game was made with Bass in mind or the guys at Capcom are a bunch of sadists xD
@@QuartzIsAnOxide lol I thought the same too on my first play through. But I enjoy playing the game more with megaman. Idk it feels more solid to me
at least lost levels gives you time to breathe
"HEY BASS , WHY MUST I FIGHT YOU , WE ARE NOT ENEMIES" !!!
Nathaniel Foga “SHUT UP!”
"That's a good question"
RedoLane Wewe fin dat metoh, we fin Dactar Wahwee.
Wrong game
_"M-My name is Duo. I was born with the s-sole purpose to eliminate the evil energy in the u-universe."_ said in the *MOST FUCKING QUIET VOICE EVER.*
There's also a WonderSwan exclusive "sequel". Pretty unique bosses, but all music is reused, apparently.
The levels are somewhat interesting as well, taking advantage of the Wonderswans tate-mode for vertical stages. The bosses can be somewhat annoying though, having weakspots that only a couple of pixels big in some cases.
But yeah, decent game, and kind of a good plot too!
@@TanukiKGA playing it as Bass is utterly impossible, especially doing Buster Only.
Never knew that.
Levels are designed for Bass, Bosses are designed for Megaman.
That's the intended tradeoff.
The levels are designed for Mega Man. They play just like any other Mega Man game. People just usually choose Bass first, and since he breaks the game in half with his move set, newbies don't realize how precise classic Mega Man platforming actually is.
@@agreedboarart3188 in shot they need to get good, this is mega man
i also think they forgot about megaman, that's why in some parts in final stages megaman has to use the ice wall where bass just do double jump
@@superchiptunetv2291 Or it's just a throwback to Mega Man 1, where in order to complete the Wily Stages, you need a weapon NO ONE ever tells you about unless you go and read the manual, which isn't even there in some collections.
Mega Man & Bass, however, does not use a secret weapon, so there's a good chance you'll be familiar with it at the point it's needed.
I think a better way to put it is that Bass is far superior to megaman in general, but there are many situations that are extremely difficult with bass and easy with megaman, especially once you have ice wall and can duplicate the jump height, his shots go through walls and bass shots cant which is more important than most realize and the charge shot especially, boss invincibility frames and bass having a machinegun pea shooter makes that just the most obvious example but it’s pervasive in the levels too
I always play as bass still but they definitely did make megaman useful
“...this is easily the worst game in the series...”
*Doesn’t know that there exists a Mega Man Dos game*
*_Doesn't know there are 2 DOS Mega Man games_*
Something tells me that those plumbers will pay for this.
BRUHH
Look up Mega Man DOS 1 and 3. It says they’re both licensed by Capcom.
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& Bass & Knuckles Feat. Dante from the Devil May Cry series with a New Funky Mode
Also bayonetta
& Poochy (Poochy & Yoshi's Wooly World)
As Shadow
+ Bowser's Minions
XL
You could say Mega Man & Bass left Antdude crying, like an anime fan on prom night.
Even that is better than this.
Saying that is an insult to Prom Night.
Megaman and bass is better than nothing!
@@herostail479 Not at all. May I remind you of the drill segment?
bass is my favorite fish
*to eat
Here before the hundredth like! Yay!
Bass is my favorite voicetype
BROJANGSTER ! Trout is much better honestly.
"Hey Bass! Why must I fight you? We are not enemies!" -Megaman 8
Mega Man and Bass but Wily accidentally made Bass OP
Except that wasn't accidental at all on Wily's part. Bass was made to destroy Mega Man, so why would Wily not make Bass at powerful as possible?
I’m okay with it, Bass is a cool boyo
Bass is not at all OP. Neither Mega Man or Bass is better than each other since Mega Man has a much easier time dealing with enemies and bosses, has vastly superior items, but Bass is better suited to the platforming.
Yeah but isn’t platforming the majority of the game
@@lakentrkfudge honestly they're kinda equal overall. For combat, megaman has the charge shot and can move while shooting. bass has aimable rapid fire. Levels have areas that one can get to that the other can't due to double jump/slide. For troublesome platforming, megaman has beat, bass has treble adapter, etc.
"But this was the first time Bass was a playable character"
Megaman 7 Versus Mode: am i a joke to you??
@Jackson Boyll Yeah but still
Yes.
I mean, basically???
Yes
it's like this game was designed around Bass and then someone said "whoops you gotta have megaman" but they didn't redesign it
It's for this very reason why some speedrunners refer to this game as _Forte & Forte_ instead.
@Noah Hafer
So it was either made without Bass in mind or Megaman in mind, either way they screwed up.
@@Apotheosister The other thing they also screwed up is that, why the heck does this game had to be on the GBA? The screen crunch is really terrible, and barely accomodated for that. The only good thing was the soundtrack. It was better than most SNES to GBA ports. But, if they had waited for the DS instead, the game wouldn't have been so hellish.
Actually, the level layout changes depending wich character you choose
@@cesaracosta362 It doesn't, I played as Bass and the stages are the same as Mega Man.
Megaman and Bass is basically Capcom's "ha poor people" of the 90s
As well as Megaman 4, 5, and 6, since by the time these three games were released, the Snes was already on the market.
@@Burn_Angel I mean 5 is the best one, idk what you're talking about
@@TheXtremeBoltGuy Said no one ever. Period.
@@Burn_Angel ever watch caddicarus?
And yeah, 5 is actually my favorite one
Can’t wait for the bootleg game:
Bega Ban and Mass
Mega Banhammer and Trout
Mighty Man & Salmon
Granite Person and Fish
& Knuckles
MooseMan Ultra Male And Cod
oh man, Megaman & Bass (or Rockman & Forte, whatever) is my favorite one of the series, i was pretty bummed when it wasn't in the legacy collection. I wish they would release a proper version of the game without being the terrible GBA port
Amen.
Amen
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There's a hack that lets you swap characters on the fly. It vastly improves the overall game, as you can mainly tackle the levels with Bass (for whom the stages feel designed for) and the bosses with Mega (for whom the bosses feel designed for), etc.
i'd play that
I finished the game with both characters. 🤷🏻♂️ its not that hard
@@dcloudBruh did git gud.
I like the dificulty of this game. For me is the best one I've ever played.
Same.
I grew up with it. It was only the classic game I owned. And it was the gba version. I’m use to of the difficulty and screen crunch
Same the challenge is awesome
Amen
Capcom: Enjoy the entire megaman series
Ant man: Thats false advertisement
Capcom: AH S**T HE FIGURED IT OUT
3:54 "Sonic and Knuckles" -Antdude
This is still my favorite classic Megaman game. And I was playing on GBA. Also I'm so happy someone acknowledged that reference to it in Megaman 9.
Damn, these graphics are fantastic.
Pretty awesome to see MegaMan 8 graphics on SNES
Game is underrated as well. Try it out.
Yes because there are no new graphics since they are all pretty much borrowed from megaman 8.
@@megaedge2762 still impressive for the snes
@@megaedge2762 haha you forgot the robot masters (not tengu man and astro man) and cold mans slow thing so lol, this is wrong, this is no longer invaild
7:17 that was totally your fault dude
Yep, 100% impossible to see spikes that were clearly on screen the couple seconds before lol.
This clip in particular, it almost seems like he purposefully maneuvered to kill himself to get footage as evidence of "bad" game design
Bullshit!
Yeah, the single, pretty small spike that deliberately hides the rest of them...yeah, that's "faked" alright. Seriously, why defend that?
UltimaKeyMaster He's talking about the bubble section.
I don’t see a lot of the places where people die a lot, that has never happened to me on my first play through. Still shit though.
A Mega Man video? What a coincidence, was just pause glitching Yellow Devil earlier.
Which Yellow Devil?
Did you bet him?
Nerd Kirby Uh...yes...after 20 tries...yes.
@@gameman250 There's only one game where you can pause glitch and one Yellow Devil in that game.
@MarioCraft Cool thanks for not actually answering his question.
This still isn't the Poképark 2 review! Come on, Aaron, don't disappoint us!
Chara Dreemurr - Christopher Moon *Antdude
Chara Dreemurr - Christopher Moon a a Ron. WE WANT A POKEPARK 2 REVIEW
Or the kirby anime review.
@@CodeCaden yes I know antdude's name
I use alternate names that begin with "a" to add to the running gag
What about the Kirby Right Back at Ya review?
I vividly remember playing and beating the GBA version of this game when I was in my teenage years because I was obsessed with Battle Network Bass at the time. Looking back now through this video...I have no idea how I managed that.
Cuz Mega Man and Bass is a great game! Though the GBA port is kinda poop because of the screen crunch.
@@agreedboarart3188 eh....is it ok despite that? I don't remember having much issue with it on Wii U.
They have yet to make a Gentle Man robot master.
I mean the pun is right there, and if the design were to turn being a bit silly, he could just be made into an Easter egg joke boss.
If not, maybe an npc - like a shopkeep or upgrade merchant.
play TI-83 Mega Man. it doesn't have gentle man, but the puns are all of the same caliber.
And if you play as Roll, he'd refer to her as "m'lady".
@@Burn_Angel p e r f e c t.
8:44
"Remember when I said you should start off at Cold Man? Because he's the only one that's actually kind of decent."
I'd disagree. While yes, most of the bosses in this game are disasters, Ground Man is an absolutely excellent robot master. His pattern (save for the Spread Drill attack, which can feel inconsistent at times) is top-notch, his attacks are clearly telegraphed, his fight is very rewarding to learn, and the Pirate Bomb is an absolute joy to use against him, should you choose to go with his weakness. Attaching a bomb to him and having him try to burrow underground, only to get launched out by an explosion is just the cherry on top.
I hate the miniboss at cold man's stage
@@NeoGraena He has easy patterns.
ye but everytime it jumps its annoying since you cant know how much it will jump :l
@@NeoGraena just stay the right distance from him to angle yourself to be able to shoot the right snowmen and try to count down the seconds from the last time he jumped. Just use your reflexes to carry your self at this point.
@@NeoGraena He always jumps 1-3 times. Just make sure to give yourself plenty of room every time and you're good.
I love this game to pieces. I had the GBA version when it came out, and I beat the SNES version when I was in high school. I still listen to the soundtrack regularly. I have played all of the main series and this title is my favorite. It just stands out for me. I think the game was designed around playing as Bass. I think playing as Megaman should be viewed as a hard mode.
Same, I can't wait to buy it!
@@rockylopez7846 I hope you have the game and enjoyed it! It's my favorite classic Mega Man!
I love it too, the difficulty is so good, it is what I want in my games, a good challenge, beat it easily with Rock and it is a blast, favorite of the classic series, too also the OST a banger
This is one of my favorite game in the series. MegaMan wasn't known to be an easy game. Would say that MegaMan 1-6, 9-10 is more difficult easily. So I'm not sure how this can be considered bad if those are good.
Interesting video, however I do have to say that a lot of your complaints about MM&B can be directly applied to several numbered NES entries as well. With the exception of the first two games, the boss weaknesses are often really hard to guess, and memorization as well as cheap deaths are almost part of the experience.
As an example for this comparison, I will take Mega Man 3.
Since I thought checking the weaknesses in the database of the legacy collection or on the wiki was cheap, it took me forever just to finish the first two levels. I had to constantly try out different robot masters to see if they could be weak against my stuff only to die to some petty trap halfway through and get a game over. And that's not even talking about the Doc Robot levels, where you have no checkpoints for the first part boss included, meaning you have to do the entire level again if you die against the boss, and the bosses are basically beefed up versions of the eight MM2 robot masters. It. is. tedious beating all of them.
Then there's the point of cheap traps and hard sections. I think the balloon section looks alright, specially compared to the rush jet/marine sections of the Doc Robot stages where you get one shot to do it, since your meter will be too low to attempt it again after respawning and the upgrades won't respawn with you, basically rendering your lives after dying at this part useless as you have to do the entire level from scratch. Compared to that bullsh*t the balloons look rather fine, especially since you won't lose much progress since they're at the beginning.
Basically, MM&B is hard, yes. I am not here to deny that. I will say, however, that so are the main line games. You will die a lot and have lots, and lots, and lots of game over screens if you play without a walkthrough. But as you repeat these levels, you become increasingly better at them and start understanding the level design more to the point that parts you found to be hard will appear as easy at the end of a playthrough of any Mega Man game. I think passing off MM&B just because of its difficulty isn't really justified at all if you consider that exact point to be what many like about the series.
A lot of this, yes.
What?
I think a lot of the problem is that people grew up with the older mega man games. They have nostalgia for the games and played them when they were younger and more patient. They no longer notice the cheap traps, strange design flaws, and unfair level design, because they've known the tricks to get around it their whole lives. But they dont think about it that way, so when they see the same problems in a game they're not familiar with they don't compare them.
@@treybug10000 I think you're right. To me, this is just another great entry in the franchise.
"Megahman, tuudayy wi finish thiis!"
"Hey bASS, whoy muhst i foight you?"
"schup up!"
"They got the game running BASSically the same"
You cunning old fox, you
Mega Man and Bass is a Mega Man fishing game.
S o r a I already made a fish joke! Get with the times!
being fair i'd rather play the big the cat portion of sonic adventure than this
what if Bass is actually a robo fish?
The thrilling sequel to Mega Man Soccer
@Speedo Sausage I know. My profile picture used to be Sora from kingdom hearts, then I changed it to Shantae but due to the 90 days thing I can't change my name Yet.
But what about Mega Man & Bass *2?* If you want a MM game that pretty much nobody's heard of, it's that!
But that game doesn't exits
There's a MM&B sort-of sequel on the Wonderswan! 😉
@@TheGoldenBolt Wow. No wonder why is forgoten
We don't talk about the WonderSwan.
That game was awesome. And did the concept of Evil Megaman from the Future correctly. Unlike a certain game for the GameBoy.
I don't think it's a bad game, it's just really hard.
The first time I watched this, I ate a veggie pizza. It wasn’t that good.
I remember having nothing but this and Wario Ware Twisted back in the day. I remember loving this game on the GBA 'cause I didn't know any better. Playing it a few years later on a SNES emulator made me realize the game I've been robbed of.
I like both versions. I grew up with the GBA port too, and I remember getting pretty far as a kid. At least to King Stage 2 on a car trip.
hi Trav
7:30 STOP JUMPING. Just run atop that series of balloons and you should be low enough to get the next one separate from the group without much risk.
Which sounds like a worse idea because you're landing on the balloons way too soon.
Well, if you're worried, just know they don't pop immediately, so you have a little time to stop and let the others rise.
This whole game is like that, the solutions aren't obvious, it's more like a punishing puzzle platformer..
That instant kill fire? Ice pillar is just tall enough and lasts long enough to stand on to avoid it, I don't know of anyone who figured that out though, everyone just brute forces it and rams into the cannons.
@@JetWolfEX they gave you an extra life exactly so it wouldn't be punishing. They use the ballons later in the stage.
And guess what, antdude didn't show footage of them. You know why he didn't? Because he learned how balloons work because the game **forced him to learn** without taking lives away from him.
It may be bad design to have a life + death trap setup, but it's stupid to ignore why it was done and how it helped you. It makes you look oblivious. Both antdude and you two are doing it.
Giving an extra life just because they knew it was too difficult is bad level design. Instead of finding a way for the player to get it right on the first try if they notice what to do, they give you an extra life because they know you're probably gonna get killed first time around, and didn't bother trying to make that part actually decently designed
I 100% this on GBA. Good times
You should stream it then.
I did too. At the time I didn't have anything else to play though lol.
yeah i bring it out to torture friends. took kid me 3 years to beat
You poor soul...
@@TommyDeonauthsArchives I'm still suffering...
I actually just replayed this for the first time in like 8 years, last week, so the timing of this review was pretty cool!
That said, I really enjoy this game and many of the things you found frustrating I didn't, whether that's because I'm just used to it/remember them, or expect memorization bullshit in Megaman games. I dunno! Didn't bug me.
Either way, cool review!
I loved this game back in the day. I chose to play as Bass from the get go and never even looked at Megaman, I found the level of difficulty rewarding, but I haven't played a lot of Megaman games, so mine is kind of an outsider perspective.
you should play more mega man games they are all great games especially the X series which I personally enjoy more over the classic series. they are separated into 2 timelines people often call the original timeline the classic line and then X takes place like 100 years into the future or something and all the original characters are dead the humans characters it is unknown what happen to the OG robots.
7:17 oh come on you couldve easily avoided falling into that spike pit.
It's almost like Antdude isn't very good at megaman games.
I beat this game as a 14 year old. Not that tough tbh.. Mega man x2 is way harder
@@shegwin I've done a no death run on X2 a few times, can't do that with Megaman and Bass, I find it way harder.
@@DanielAyy I think he's not good in platform in general. He sucks at shovel knight too.
@@roniesli9518 I bet Antdude only likes Kirby because Kirby games are easy.
3:53 - I'm not sure if that's a joke because of the way they're standing, or that's a genuine mistake.
joke :p
honestly Bass is more like Shadow to me
RedoLane
But different enough to be counted as a desperate character.
@TheKidCode - Daniel C. incluiding the two megaman x sonic crossovers vía the comics
Well he's neither really he's the metal sonic of the franchise
*Shooootin lemons*
🍋🍋🍋
Which are actually sunshine bloops.
yeah, yeah, lemons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Idk man, I played this waaay back when I first found out about emulation and I remember liking it a lot. I just started it again on my Pi, but given, I’m into Bass and that’s how I played it back then and now
I’m more of an X fan, and Bass plays much more like X than MM does. I understand your points of contention, but I just don’t remember having these same problems back then. Maybe I’ll see it this time thru
Also, I never really played many of the original MM games, I started with MMX, then went on to only play MM7, 8 and 11 in the OG series. Like I said, I’m much more of an X fan. Played X1-X4 and Zero.
Id say still give it a try if you like the X series more, and go with Bass instead.
Yeah, this video of his was just awful. Then again, the only videos of his that I find moderately tolerable are his Kirby videos. He basically just slams anything that isn't piss easy. I found Mega Man & Bass incredibly well designed, though I can't defend the flying tank boss lol.
Actually Ground Man isn’t too bad once you get his pattern down. You could honestly take him out second if you wanted to.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I've definitely done playthroughs where I started with Ground Man.
So....am I the only one who agrees with remake or rebrake when they said this game is a bit over exaggerated on the difficulty
Edit: side note, when I found out this game existed, Burner man became my favorite, mostly by design
Not everyone is EXO.
Honestly i like the design and fight of Magic Man more, but that's just my opinion.
Burnerman looks hot(HA!) to me too but boi fighting him is way different story, also I like Magicman and Groundman better in term of design but Burnerman is still good looking.
About difficulty, yeah I feel you. It's not very good by any mean but for me it's still a damn fine game, I'd complain more about X6 or GOD FORBID X7 than this game.
@@YoungAvJoe I can definitely agree with that, it isn't my favorite out of the classic Mega Man games (that would be MM8 for me), but I feel like it has some really fun designs for all of the bosses, although Cold man is slightly too bland for me. Also I don't know why, but for Mega Man and Bass I have always thought that it would have been a cool idea if they made it for GameCube at the time and have it be 3D since there was pretty much no classic Mega Man on the system that I know of
@@FrothyMilkshake19 I want to love this game; SO BADLY! The music is easily one of the best in the series, the graphics are impressive for SNES standards, and the robot master designs are very cool and unique (excluding astro and tengu man). But, I just can't ignore the things this game does wrong.
Seeing so many many people speak negatively about this game, but also a few people doing the opposite. Gives me confused feelings and actually makes me want to play the game to cement my opinion.
if you are a Megaman veteran you'll have a lot of fun with this one.
if you are new to the series you'll probably wont like it.
Disagree, played most of the entire series by now and this game barely has any fun in it to me.
I'd suggest playing the first 7 Mega Man games before you play this one.
Although I disagree with a lot of the complaints, I still hate the game.
It’s still worth playing though if you love Mega Man to death.
Don’t play the GBA port, that’s not a good first impression.
I guess I should provide context for my experience with the series. I've played 2,7,8,9,10,11,X1 and X4 and outside of the series, some other hardcore platformers I've played are: super meat boy, celeste and dead cells. As for games in a similar vein: azure striker gunvolt 1+2 and mighty gunvolt burst. So I guess I'm pretty experienced.
This game is awesome. I always felt like it was 2 different games in 1, one featuring Megaman, and the other Bass, it feels like a double package.
Still my personal favorite and Cold Man’s is awesome!
Yeah, it's awesome!
Rockman and Forte rocks!
12:50 "old man with a weird skull fetish." Well, after all, everything's a skull. Cinemassacre fans will get it.
0:32 Upon my first playthrough, I shared the same opinion, but every time I replay it, it gets better. Now, it's one of my top 5 favorite in the franchise and my all-time favorite Classic series game.
Ant dude: lemme copy your homework
Somecallmejohnny: sure just change some things
Ant dude: ...
1st, try astroman without his weakness, 2 the yoku blocks... man 3. that section in astromna you complained about, never died to it, 4 YOU DO NOT NEED TO JUMP ON THE BALOON SECTION 5 theres ANOTHER infinite life before king jet
Megaman & Bass must be a damn complicated game...
But without a doubt its music is one of the best in the series
Dynamo Man, Astro Man, Ground Man, The King Boss Battle, those are masterpieces
Nah, Mega Man II for the GB is _much_ worse than *& Bass.*
Why am I the second like, I though a lot more people would’ve seen this comment by now..
Well while I’m here might as well say I love your videos.
Mega Man 2 on GB is half assed but is still playable. I didn’t hate it.
MM2 GB is bad but it's not horrible like MM&B, and is a playable game
This is possibly my favorite Megaman game - I'm honetly surprised you disliked it that much.
My favorite megaman game! PS1 grade graphics on a SNES.
Honestly, I was kind of underwhelmed when I played this game for the first time. The difficulty is high, but it's not like it's one of the hardest games ever made. I'd say the final level is the only one I would truly consider "bullshit", and while really hard, the game does present some pretty fun and dynamic levels and bosses. I mean, I'd say these bosses are more interesting than your standard "jump and shoot a thing" style bosses that the classic series was becoming oversaturated with before 7. I just thought this game was a fun challenge, and though Bass makes it easier, I usually run through it as Megaman now that I know how the game is.
Your first 1-3 playthroughs will be nightmarish, yes, but once you get the hang of it and start playing a bit more patiently, I think the game gets a hell of a lot better. You don't see a lot of other games getting shit on for being hard the first time around, so I think this game deserves that same kind of chance.
i think if a game needs 1-3 playthroughs to start being good it's not a very good game
@@gabegriffin5984 I mean, games taking a few runs to get good at really isn't that uncommon to begin with. Just look at Dark Souls, a game that takes a long ass time just to get decent at. I don't think reducing frustration and getting good at the game means that the game is bad for the time you struggle, because if that was the case, most hard games out these days would all be considered shit.
@@tronmerncutsman thing is most hard games nowadays have reasons to keep coming back, be it ng+ or some other post-game content
here its like...alright. I understand how to play as bass now. the only reason I have to come back is to play through as megaman, a fundamentally different character
@@tronmerncutsman the difference here is with a game like Dark Souls, you have a 60 hour rpg that probably takes about 5 hours to really grasp the combat and playstyle, and then you have the entire rest of the game to enjoy, with this game like you said, the first 1-3 play throughs are going to be nightmarish. Why would you want to play a game that you don't enjoy 3 times over? What do you gain from that?
Remember, he is playing the Famicom version, not the GBA version
3:53 so in Sonic and MegaMan and Bass *AND KNUCKLES*
I remember getting the GBA version of this game when I was 7. Of course, I could never beat it.
Feels bad man
me too, i think i was about that age when i got it for my gba and i couldn't even get past astroman
I seriously liked this game, it's one of my favorites. The difficulty was one of a kind, enemies were infuriating and all of that but, this geniunely hurt my feels... sadface
It's a pretty great challenge for Mega Man fans. I love MM&B.
I guess my familiarity with this game makes me biased, but damn do I love it. It was my very first Megaman game and I honestly don't think I would have turned into such a fan if this game wasn't brutally punishing. It had an incredible mystique for me precisely because it took me YEARS to beat it despite its short length. Talk about a lasting impression.
P.S: the balloon bit in Tengu Man's stage becomes much easier once you realize you can simply walk off one balloon and land on the next.
i just love the fact that Arins "oh yeah, LEMONS" has become a meme in the the megaman community, or i could be wrong and it's always been a meme in said circle, at any rate, LEMONS!
It has always been.
Tho I love the *RIDIN' ON CARS* meme.
I know I'm in the minority here and I'm very much aware of this game's flaws, but I actually like this one, a lot more than most. I also don't think the "screen crunch" on the GBA version is as debilitating as everyone claims. But that's also likely because that is in fact the only version I've ever played.
I think if you only counted the people who have actually played this game, you aren't in the minority. This game is beloved by many. It's just become a punching bag over the years because a few people on the internet with influence said it was bad.
@@agreedboarart3188 Another victim of the vocal minority shitting all over a game when it is clearly a skill issue.
Not falling to the ground when jumping through boss doors would've been a nice touch for the OGs
Megaman V on Gameboy got forgotten by Capcom themselves depsite that game being totally different from all the classic Megaman games. Megaman V is the best underrated Megaman game by far.
I love you man, but it’s Rockman AND Forte. :)
The Mega Man Cave you know the drill, something isn't edgy enough for murican audience, and the rest of the world has to suffer with butchered English versions of games because of this..
Don't be a weeb he's talking about how Ant forgot the AND in the title
yeah, how did he mess that up
Bass drop
I'm all about that bass. No Trouble.
Tommy Deonauth's Archives, no *tenor.
No
BASS *BOOST*
Man are y'all bad at this game? I have great memories playing this game, beating it with MM and Forte, enjoying the music and the gameplay
Blue Knight
Have you played it recently? Nostalgia can be a powerful thing. I have, and it is definitely hard. Not that AntDude didn’t screw up in some places, but it’s definitely frustrating, especially the second King stage.
bhull242 lmao I was actually just playing it and I have to say this statement holds true for me too, I fkn love this game
@@bhull242 Not really, each time i play this, i just seems to improve. Which is technically what gives it much replay value like the other Mega Man games.
It's the Dark Souls of Mega Man games.
Don't kill me I'm being sarcastic.
@@bhull242 I played it recently, and it's not as bad as people make it out to be, if I'm being honest. Maybe I'm biased, since when I played the SNES version, I used the player switch patch (mostly to get all the CDs on one save file) and the Equip All Items patch that the Rockman 4 Minus Infinity guy made, but I managed to get through the game okay with enough practice.
Although I'm not doing myself many favors since I also thought Mighty No. 9 was okay. I usually just stick to the tried and true method of practicing and recognizing patterns in order get through these kinds of games, and it tends to work out more often than not.
my parents got me the super famicom version for christmas and ngl it's a really good excuse for throwing your controller.
I like the SNES version it’s in my top 5 favorite classic series games, I’m serious
Its my second favorite behind mega man 10
Same, one of my top 3 classic games
It's my twelfth favorite out of the 12 Classic Megaman games...
It's cheaply unfair, just sayin
Favorite ≠ Best.
I like X6 but it's not good.
Brings back memories of the good ol' days of discovering Sonikdude101 and watching his Mega Man videos around a decade ago...
Dude the balloon part is easy! Just keep moving forward! 😆
Pridetoons aka Afro Lion no I tryed to do that in my play through it didn't work
Thegrady2000 It worked just fine for me and everybody else soo...
Thegrady2000 Also just watch this footage compared to Antdude's Cringetastic footage in Tenguman's stage.
th-cam.com/video/fHBJWXr4hoQ/w-d-xo.html
You're supposed to slide...
*"At some point in the future I do want to go into more depth with these games"*
Just don't review all ten MegaMan games in a two parter video like Caddy had you'll maybe go nuts. ;)
*Daddy Caddy*
As a kid i always joked about astroman being weak to cards, i used to say that its his weakness because he is so impressed by a card trick, because of the animation he does when you hit him with the cards.
7:20 you could clearly see the spikes and you deliberately went into them on purpose. They are anything but impossible to see.
7:30
I never had trouble with this part, I just learned in two tries that you had to jump before time and that’s it (it was with negaman)
I was just playing Megaman and Bass! Trying it out for myself! Then AntDude uploads! Coincidence?
GauzyGlue 143220 I THINK NOT.
probably
Yes, coincidence.
Hhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Funny thing that I was just playing Mega Man 8-Bit DeathMatch before watching this video, I gotta say, Mega Man is really kicking in this year, and I love it! :D
By the way, speaking of Mega Man & Bass, I was always confused with this game since it had Mega Man 8 graphics but it was a game that came out on the Super FamiCom, now I know what was going on at the time :)
But... Was it worth it? I don't know, I thought this game was hard because I thought I was bad at Mega Man games but NO! The game is actually hard!!! I'm glad this video exists, thanks AntDude.
1:56 Mega Man 7, 8 & Bass FamiCom Edition!
Hey, Bass, why must we keep ignoring the game, while you're actually in the title???
*_SHUDDUP!_*
“Awesome music, super tight controls, DANNY DEVITO!!!”
12:30 This isn't exactly unique to Megaman and Bass. At all. Every Mega Man game has had 4 bosses in the Wily Stage. Plus, the drill hallway in the beginning of the video is a constant staple in the Mega Man series! Honestly, this review felt kind of... bad. Trial and error puzzles are a part of Mega Man games, and taking time to tackle the stage instead of blasting through enemies makes the game Mega Man, not Mario 2.
Yes every Wily Castle usually has about 4 bosses for it. 1 stage consisting of 4 bosses which has to be beat on 1 set of lives is a rarer occurence.
Megaman and Bass was my first Megaman game, it will always be special to me.
The game has some real bad enemy placement, particularly as Mega Man and its idea of teaching you a mechanic before throwing you off the deep end is to simply give you a respawning extra life before said section, which is an incredibly clumsy way to teach players through playing. Still, I found the actual platforming to be perfectly servicable for most of the game, I enjoyed the extensive item shop and that satisfying feeling when you beat a tough stage still rings true in this title as well. Plus the game is an incredible technical achievement for the SNES' graphical capabilities. After playing through this game as both Mega Man and Bass, I'd say my experience was a fairly pleasant one considering I went in expecting to hate it. I'd still replay any of the numbered entries before this one, though.
Andy I don’t play mega man that much but I just feel like the game throws random shit at you expecting you to doge everything maybe that’s why I stop playing after 5 minutes
Nah, sorry. I tried giving this game a genuine try, even with save states, but I'm not gonna put up with it's fucking bullshit trial and error level design and horrible enemy placement.
Easily the worse in the Classic series, and I'll easily push it aside as a spin-off over it being real canon.
@@shaitet It is canon.
@@shaitet It’s not that hard, nor is it any more bullshit than what some of the other classic games have to offer.
If you hated Mega Man & Bass, Mega Man X6 will drive you NUTS
This was such an amazing game and I loved it and still do lol
Its so weird, to me, megaman 1 is more dificult than this, this and the seven were the only ones I plaid and ti isnt that dificult as you said... In my case.
1:49 By "Hey, Bass"(as in bass fish), do you mean "Hey, Bass"(as in bass guitar)?
Ant I love you but whenever you mention the games difficulty, it seems like you're just really bad at it, some of the deaths you showed looked more like incompetent playing more than anything.
Yea, hes wack!
The game is just difficult for the most part, but if you are playing as megaman, some instances are literally just a diceroll to see if you live.
I know know know know know know know that up at nonsense was blown out of proportion The guy was never game journalists they this had him do it for some reason the old games can be done from criticism because they're bad is dumb thing Go ahead is lots of nonsense that are just poorly designed like randomly generated clouds what the hell were they thinking and then whenever someone criticizes it is love you too see the good you suck
@@nitrosherbert888 you seem to have been tired. Can you please repeat that, because I can't understand it.
That cuphead nonsense was blown out of proportion
That guy was never a game journalist they just had him do it for some reason Now whenever people say you don't like the game because it's poorly designed and it's hard to tell just say oh you just don't like it 'cause it's hard This videos over 40% dislikes even though everything he said was a valid point th-cam.com/video/AYH2deCwb3M/w-d-xo.html
The joke is that Astro Man, a robot specialized in science and as such facts, is weak to magic tricks
4:14 “This was the first time Bass was playable.”
Laughs in Mega Man: The Power Battle
I guess I'm the only one who actually likes this game (no lie, it's my favorite MegaMan game).
Edit: Years later and Mega Man 9 is my absolute favorite. Also, I think I like 7 just a little more than Mega Man & Bass, though I still love this game.
Most people in the comments love this game.
Favorite ≠ Best.
@@zakirhusain6324 Favorite = Best in my case
@@CeruleanHee-ho Best = Favorite
Favorite ≠ Best.
The Mega Man canon sure is confusing, man.
>stares at MMX
yup...it is indeed..
Then MMZ-MMZX series came...
Psh, it's pretty dang linear & easy to get if you ask me.
(War flashbacks of sonic canon)
...
Yeah, megaman is way more coherent.
Yea, how does Mega Man have so many different types of ammo?
Not really...
All you gotta do is point and shoot. Heeey!
*_Any of the numbered ones? What 'bout the Megaman Arcade fighting games, their port(s) to the NeoGeo Pocket Color, Rockboard for the Famicom, Megaman: The Wily Wars for the SEGA Genesis, the mobile phone ports of the first 6 Megaman games, and Rockman & Forte: Challengers From The Future for the Bandai Wonderswan?_*
NUMBERED. ONES. PERIOD.
*YOU CANNOT DENY THE EXISTENCE OF THE DECENT MEGAMAN ARCADE FIGHTING GAMES, MAGGOT.*
MegaMan and Bass was the first game I ever completed
The blue bomber is “back”.