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The Drama Triangle (Victim, Prosecutor, Rescuer) by Stephen Karpman Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
- When you're in a toxic relationship, do you consider yourself the victim, the rescuer, or the persecutor? The Drama Triangle, first described by Stephen Karpman in the 1960s, illustrates the dysfunctional relationship between the victim, rescuer, and persecutor. Find out how each of these roles makes your toxic relationship worse.
So, which type did you relate to?
If you relate to "The Victim", watch this video: • 10 Signs Someone’s Alw...
If you relate to "The Rescuer", watch this video: • 5 Signs You Have the R...
If you relate to "The Persecutor", watch this video: • 7 Signs You're Emotion...
Writer: Sara Del Villar
Script Editor: Rida Batool
Script Manager: Kelly Soong
VO: Amanda Silvera
Animator: Kure (new animator)
TH-cam Manager: Cindy Cheong
References:
bit.ly/3aNXmrJ
#victim #rescuer
So, which type did you relate to?
If you relate to "The Victim", watch this video: th-cam.com/video/Zh0pWlwSnxI/w-d-xo.html
If you relate to "The Rescuer", watch this video: th-cam.com/video/4Km1qVWFbHI/w-d-xo.html
If you relate to "The Persecutor", watch this video: th-cam.com/video/V_qs6Y4MEq0/w-d-xo.html
Can i choose nothing cuz i have 0 XP in a relationship.
Four months ago 😄?
4 months??
*A Year And One Month I Guess??* 🤔
As soon as I wake up, i'm greeted with a Psych2Go video, best day ever?
Can we just admire the fact that they are all growing trees from their heads?😩😍
,♥️♥️♥️
bean sprout humans
Lol
Who do you think you are?
@@stevenkatris2217 Pardon me, but what?
Time Stamps
1. The Victim 1:01
2. The Rescuer 2:58
3. The Persecutor 4:30
Ily Psych2go ♥️
As a person with severe anxiety and some depression, I find lots of comfort from this channel. (even tho this vid didn't really apply to me!) Thanks a lot for making content for people like me. ;)
3:16 I understood "are you someone who *sleeps* in like a superhero to save others?" and thought yeah i like that idea
This animation is BEAUTIFUL! So much frames, expression, movement, shapes, I love it so much! Great job Kure! ❤❤❤
Special shoutout to the animator, it's on-point along with the voice. And super cute.
I love the artful transitions to the next/between scenes, and the art style. It's lovely and clever
Who here time traveled?
Definitely not me
Nooope. Not me
How to time travel?
Meeeeeee lol
This one is so helpful for me right now. I just realized that I have a little of victim mentality but shifts to a rescuer most of the time and then becomes a persecutor in a subtle way when I bottle up negativity.
I've now achieved my dream to become a time traveler
Congrats😂
Good job 👍👍
How did you do this?!
@@mokshambaghela4902 U really don't know.
How did you do this???
Plz olzz plzz respond
Being single is lonely. Being in a relationship is stressful. Either way, you really can't win.
Unless it’s the right relationship 👀
That's such a wrongful, negative, and extremist point of view, my friend. Life is NOT that black-and-white and shouldn't go to such unhealthy extremes.
Being single is ONLY ever lonely if you refuse to establish and maintain the other kinds of relationship in your life (family, relatives, friends, coworkers, like-minded folks, etc) and isolate yourself to a life of a misanthropic, socially inept hermit. And being in a relationship is ONLY ever stressful when either one or two of you are toxic, immature, struggling with internal issues, unwilling to communicate with each other, respect each others's needs, desires, and boundaries, cooperate to solve problems together diplomatically, and take the responsibility to properly maintain the relationship like mature adults should. Plus, there needs to be a period of time where everyone involved is allowed to have some personal time for themselves and tend to their own lives' business without the other partner. That's how healthy relationships function.
Of course, there is nothing wrong with choosing to be either single or in a relationship, it depends on each individual's preference and should be equally respected. There is definitely a way to "win" with both choices and that is BALANCE!
There’s a difference between being alone and being lonely though. It’s okay to be alone instead of settling for a toxic relationship.
SUMMARY:
1. The Victim- 1:16
2. The Rescuer- 3:14
3. The Persecutor- 4:46
Are you one of these three? Tell me if you are!
Used to be The Rescuer
You are the best
I don’t know 🥲
victim
None
The animation in this was a perfect complement to the informative voice-over! Great job as always :)
I love how they time everything to when I am looking for certain videos. I want a video on how to help your mental health when you are not well psychically and just have to wait for the doctors to figure out what they can do to help.
thanks for raising awareness on these topics! we all will forever appreciate this channel :D p.s this art style is adorable!
Persecutors issue empty threats...oh I assure you, they follow through often enough to hold you in a state of terror.
I agree. My ex friend was like that.
@@tj921able the person I had in mind was my dad.
@@sassylittleprophet So sorry, my parents were abusive too. I pray you were able to rise above that
@@tj921able I don't live with them (my abusive parents) anymore, and I've gone pretty much "no contact," so things are much better now.
@@sassylittleprophet That's wonderful. God Bless You 😇.
When I went to therapy (trauma, depression), at some point, my psychologist drew a triangle on the board and explained this to me. At the end of that session, I was so mad at her! I thought
_"How dare you think that I like being a victim, expecting someone else to save me?! As if I was making this up, pretending to be depressed to be a victim, hoping people will feel bad for me! F You! I don't want anyone's sympathy!!"_
It took me a moment to understand that her goal was not to accuse me of anything but to make me understand that there is no "rescuer", that if someone is going to save me, it has to be myself.
Looking back at it, I realise how well she knew me. This could have ended very badly if she did this to someone who would have taken it the wrong way and think _"Nobody understands me, even my therapist doesn't understand me! There is no hope..." and who would have "ended" it.
Congratulations for the new animator, they have an amazing style!
If I was in a dysfunctional relationship, I think I'd the rescuer.
My mother is a persecutor most of the time. A few days ago she started being a bit nicer, going in a victim-like mentality when she's been mad at us for years. My father has more of a victim-like mentality when he's the one that first hurt us, and i guess i'm a mix. It's a bit hard to balance, but once i'm out of here i'll be better. I just worry about what they'll become.
Hope you are doing okay now
Narcissists typically jump back and forth between persecutor and victim. So that's probably the case with your mom. If you don't play the rescuer role after they persecute you then they will go into the victim stance acting like poor me everything is your fault to guilt you into what they want.
@@coltenkelso5764absolutely correct. I’d worry more about future generations.
Ok the animation on this is so freaking smooth 👌👌 great job
I'm never going to be able to unsee this 😳
+ 1 4 7 0 4 6 7 3 8 6 9
Another new animation style? Perfect. ❤️
I LOVED the animation style of this video
Usually I’m a bystander who narrates life inside of my head
when I'm alone I'm a victim, and my past relationships scream "Persecuting Rescuer". Hellooooo therapy.
Start being alone more unless u can't face your fear.
i love these videos they help enough
I think I'm the victim but the sometimes the rescuer. Every time I get the opportunity to be in a relationship, I turn it down. Because I have the victim mentality. I don't want to spread something that's within me to other people... who are perfectly fine.... (I just had to get this off my chest)
But don't forget that even the people who r perfectly fine were having some trouble at a certain time so u can overcome these troubles too !! U can if u tried and try for ur self not others ! Do it for u
@@iamlouia3857 I'll try to keep that in mind it's really hard though :)
@@mayasiaw1830 u know they say a straight road doesn't make a good driver .... So u need to go through this and fall and get up again until u drive through ur life with all the experiences you've leard ... And when that day come u will be proud of ur self .. have a nice day 💞
@@iamlouia3857 I've never heard of that before. Thank you very much! I pray you'll have a good/ well lived life 💙. Take care!
@@mayasiaw1830 you've never heard it because I've just made it up 😂 + ur very welcome and i hope u will become whoever u wanna be ❤️
I just love your art style 😩🤚
I'm always so excited every time you upload a new video! Your voice is very reassuring, the drawing make me comfortable, and the tips are probably life changing! Just wanted to say thank you for making everyone informed. I'm sure I can speak for pretty much all of your viewers! Thank you!!
Time traveling was good
This is an excellent video! Thank you for sharing.
Amazing!!! Thank you!!!
Me non time traveller. Please teach me the ways
I like this. The ten types of whatever lists are cool and all, but some depth is nice once in a while too.
I'm technically all of them, minus the relationship
“Which one are you??? “😂
Heavenly Father I pray that you keep the person reading this alive, safe, healthy and financially blessed Amen 💜
Thank you. I just was wondering about what is happening in my life and was crying. This was needed. Thanks
BTW this is actually really offensive you've commented this somewhere where anyone could see it and it's ignoring the fact not everyone is a Christian there's nothing I despise more than someone "praying" for people who never asked for it it's extremely disrespectful
Not going to ruin this, but, im sorry for saying this, Jesus (Heavenly father) is not the real god, the real god is Allah S.W.T. If you don't wanna believe in it its fine. As long as ur ok with that, have a nice day!😊🤗
@@theemofemboycatgirlw3214 you kinda got a point bro..
@@chrqnos_ Jesus is a sadist. Don't be a masochist.
Hi time travelers and non-time travelers, just a little message possibly most people not gonna notice but, Have a great day/night!
You too
😎 thanks
Hi, I think this is great, I would like to suggest that you expand this video with what has been suggested as the opposite of this. The victim being the Creator, the persecutor being the Challenger. I think it could really help people not fall into shame spirals or things of that manner when learning about this.
Love your work though, and you've really helped my daughter, many thanks!
I had a friendship one time with a persecutor at one point we had different beliefs and they kept yelling at me for something we didn’t agree on, I became a victim and my parents found out about what was going on and they wanted me to leave the relationship, I was scared that my friend would hate me even more then what I believed in. I watched a TH-cam video about toxic relationships and something stuck with me “no one should need you, they should want you” so i told myself that I’d ask them if they wanted me as a friend and if they answered me they needed me or they ignore me then I would tell them that I wasn’t happy and I need to end the friendship and if they said the simple yes I’d try to make the friendship better. I asked the question at school the next day and she ignored me, so it was over and I told her that but it did hurt in the long run I should have rephrased what I said but it was overall healthy for me to be away, they ended up spreading rumors of me, but this year they wanted to be friends again and I had forgiven them but I don’t trust them now I don’t know how to tell the person no without having them spread rumors again. I do know that I did say somethings wrong but that person shouldn’t have taken it that far
Honestly, I don't think there is anything you can do to stop this person from doing what they're doing. And being friends with them again is only going to start this whole cycle again. Unless they've actually shown any change from last time, it's best to not trust them. If it were me, I would outright tell them to stop and let them know that I am well aware of what they did and how it made me feel; whether they deny it or not.
But that's just me.
I don't know how this person would react to a sudden stand from someone like you, cause I don't know you either. In my mind, it seems that the person at hand knows that they can take advantage of you and continued the relationship to do just that.
When it comes to rumors, there really isn't anything you can do to stop people from talking about you, but furthering the relationship might only make things worse. They might be making rumors as we speak. And Twilight, If you were someone else's friend, I'm sure you wouldn't do anything as this person did to caused pain. If this is true, then you should expect that from others as well! Always!
I'm sure your parents and other loved ones wouldn't want you to be hurt by anyone, much less by someone who deems themselves as a "close friend". And girl, you deserve to be treated with love and respect as much as the next guy. Remember that!
@@Vi-Vi-Kitty wow your so kind and understanding I hope you have a wonderful day today
The relationship between prosecutor and rescuer is scary... As a victim who always being bullied 😭
@@nurulfadilaturrahmi4001 I’m sure things will work out for both of us and everyone going through stuff like this and I’m sure you have someone who is always there for you and if you don’t be that person for others that’s what I did and now I have people who have my back be that example for others one way or another it should work out
Something we need to pay attention to is our own actions sometimes you may say something that comes out to another person as bad, and we all do it so don’t give the person who did something wrong as a bad person they just don’t understand and it’s our job as humans to get along and sometimes people can be just jerks and there is nothing you can do about that but we all need to move forward and find people that understand and look past the mistakes NO ONE CAN BE PERFECT
this channel is so nice
Great job on the video! ^^
Yoo were you thinking of doing the victory triangle? How this model can apply to disagreements in a relationship/friendship and how to break the horrible cycle the drama triangle causes? I think it'd be very useful for people struggling as it was for me when my therapist told me about it!x
Victory triangle?
I’ve never been in a relationship before
Same, only platonic ones
Careful not to over-romanticize relationships like a Hollywood movie. That’s how some people end up forcing themselves to be in a relationship just for the sake of being in one … even if they don’t feel very connected to the other person in a healthy manner
Acctually, this triangle of rôles/ relationships dynamics are way more commun in platonic relationships (friendship, brotherhood, family...). We are always told to be careful and aware of Who we date but not so much who we become friends with. I personaly fell into that trap this year.
Never again
Same here 40+ yrs old and no relationship yet
Oh my god, me and my very recent ex both swapped between all three of these constantly. We exhausted each other.
Ohh, off topic sorta but I really love the animation! ^_^
This is an amazing video and such beautiful animation
I was getting a bit worried as psych2go had been posting very similar videos these past few weeks but this is very fresh
The voice of the narrator is so soothing and soft, that I immediately lose focus and don't understand anything.
Time travelling is my hobby.
its getting kinda boring
i see no fun anymore
Me to
But how do you do this!
The animation in this vid is top quality
The victim archetype is why I don't allow myself to fall in love. I've been struggling with depression and have a lot of emotional baggage from my childhood. I've created this illusion in my head that once I fall in love all my problems would go away, since I'll have somebody by my side. It sounds good at first, but that would mean heavily depending my partner... I don't wanna burden other people with all of that and end up becoming toxic.
I just wanna fall in love like everybody else.
I'm needing to vent since this is that type of channel, by in 5th grade (I'm a 8th grader now on summer break) I was friends with this beautiful girl named aria, you see, at the time we were best friends and we bonded most during tag, and tragically, at the end of 5th grade she said these words "I like you" and for me this was bomker I was paralyzed as my vocal cords were, and before I had a chance to say anything they ran fast and away from me, I assume they were in tears. And I felt perplexed, 2 years later I'm a 7th grader and I don't remeber a thing when all of a sudden, she walks up to me in the hallway and the conversation goes like this, Aria: Hey! Me: Hey! It's been a while. Aria: it has. Then she speedboats to her friends, and what I'm confused by is that sometimes she doesn't even want to look at me and sometimes she is open for talk, and I'm always scared of talking to her when she's with her friends becuass what if they think of something that would ambarass or scar me or humiliate me so I have been through a loop with false hopes, dread, regret and mood changes, etc. If there any true help or advice that can help, please share it for the love of God. (FYI I know the video has nothing to do with this but I chose the more recent one so people would see it. Thanks
Listen bro. If you like her, tell her so as soon as covid 19 lockdown gets lifted. You are lucky to have such an amazing girl. Tell her. Become friends with her friends. Have fun . together. I spent entire of my school life , having fun, but, WITHOUT ANY ROMANCE. now that I am going to college I crave for it. Shit I had got so many chances at romance and i ignored them all. Don't do this. Grab your opportunity. She talks to you and likes you. Get her if you like her chap. Go for it before it is too late.
Wonderful voice, I love it
Just watched this and wanted to say I loved the animation in this! 😍
Very helpful
I unfortunately act like a victim in dramatic situations whereas my father is a persecutor. I know having that mentality isnt good but I went through a lot of emotional abuse when I was younger and my dad was never punished or sent to therapy for how he treated\treats me. I try my best to work on my victim mentality but its hard sometimes
I feel the same
Hey Phych2Go, I really love the art in this video...💜
I luv this video😍
Nice video.
Im the victim lately i used to be the rescuer hahahaha i fell in love with someone i wanted to help regain happiness and a partner that is always there for him, and i still love him but he took me out of his life bc he doesnt want help. Then i had a crisis and my life broke completely and i dont have the strenght to keep going and go out my victim mentality, angry at the people that were the cause of my childhood wrecking, finally allowing myself to get angry, maybe as i let myself feel those things ill heal and gather strenght to get my life together
Cool nice animation
How was I both a victim and a rescuer before I realised my parents were gaslighting me?
I feel like I’m all three and they interact and argue in my self dialogue.
Can you make a video about chronic depression? About its signs & symptoms? Pls
i love this
You guys should do how to spot a transactional relationship, how to avoid one, and how to avoid making them.
Thank you Psych2go for another video.
I want to ask how to grieve. How to comfort someone who is grieving. My mom died and my family is trying so hard to be strong. I am worried.
Yes
I'm sorry at first I unsubscribe your channel because it's gives me anxiety at that time cuz knowing symptoms of something I just take it seriously
But now I'm mentally strong person I subscribed your channel
Thankyou for such fantastic video and *sorry though my English is not that good*
I have been watching your vedios and they helped me very much..
I have a problem in figuring out what my intuition feels like and my intuition sounds like a fantasy or unbeleiveable..
Its hard to connet to intuition ...
Can you make a vedio on this please ...
Thank you😊😊🙏🙏
I am all three. I try to rescue people then when they don’t act or do what I want I build resentments. I persecute them after that and play the victim!! I have not been in a healthy romantic relationship yet. I don’t know how to stop this cycle.
Can you make a step to step tutorial on how to talk to your crush?
One thing that I've realized after watching your videos is nobody is without any mental problems. 🙄🙄
I can assure you that the Buddha is one example of a person who freed himself of all "mental" problems.
Good vid
very helpful.Now I get why I am not happy in relationship coz I am the persecutor.
I need help with something in my life recently, one of my "friends" I think is toxic. I have watch your video on the signs of one and more than half correspond to him. I have kind of gotten rid of him but he still sticks to me. He made fun of me by constantly talking about the Soviet union because I'm Russian and I can't seem to get him out of my mind. Also can you make a video on signs that you (yourself) is toxic and how to stop it, it would help alot
Good
I dont think I can relate to any of these but I think I know a few friends who are rescuers that turn into persecutors
1:18 VICTIMS
3:15 RESCUERS
4:48 PERSECUTOR
Someone did this before me but i decided to help even more people.
Also, feel free to use the replies to talk about toxic relationships, i will be here to support if you want (:
A normal healthy person have their feelings organized and are aware when they express an emotion. They allow themselves to be natural and start/stop when they feel like to. They are intuitive. Everything works in their body. They are empathetic. THEIR SENSITIVITY IS NOT ABUSED.
i feel as though i have been guilty of all three at one time or another
but i recognize with 1 most 2 somewhat and 3 the least
what would i address first?
As a victim with a prosecutor brother is really hard ... He ignores me all the time like some dirt! Yeah,just go away🙂
Someone’s a time travel here. 🧐🧐🧐
How do you make these animated videos????
Can a person who has a job, a home, a partner and money be depressed?
I depends on the ambitions of the person. While others see it as a success, that person may feel being locked into a life they don't want to be in.
Yes.
Can a victim also become a persecutor? I just know someone who seems to fit both.
Ikr I think I know someone who fits both too
Omg! I'm early!!! 🤩💛🍂✨
Persecutor* ❤
Yes, I do please!
4:10 my whole life b like
Wow... all three is me on some days. The prosecutor is only very little. I'm definitely a victim when I'm down but a rescuer otherwise
is there some other types of rescuer? because i feel mostly like it but not entirely, but not like other types of the triangle.. more like rescuer that likes to take things to the end and be happy if the result helped the person be more independent
What do you do when the victim will not try any or entertain the thought of suggestions to try to prevent these problems from arising?
The title misquotes the term "persecutor."...Wow.
Wait did I time travel?
can you make a video about ''ISTP''
hello
Applies to friends and social groups too.
I've witnessed persecutors come in as a victim type, only to start asserting control. Rescuer types sided with them, leaving behind at least one victim.