Ups & Downs From WWE Money In The Bank 2017
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James Ellsworth is gonna feel The PAIN
Wow, this is a trip. Dang Simon, you've really come a long way with Ups and Downs. Good job man
The first ever woman's money in the bank...won by chinless ellsworth,bravo wwe
fursteen lee Is Santina all over again.....
VicRaptor2589 yep
xKciNx I get that..but now whenever the people will think about the first woman's money in the bank,they are gonna picture that hog unhooking the briefcase and trust me that is not a pretty sight to behold
My dad who doesn't even like wrestling saw it with me and said the women got screwed
Of course it isn't, because Ellsworth and Carmella are heels. Ruining good moments to get hated is their JOB! You're mad that the heels did their thing so you blame WWE.
Carmella and James Elsworth have heat, they are heels who everyone now hates. Job Done, Good finish!!!
Michael Turner but they are still treating women like shit. makes the whole women's revolution stupid
people aren't mad at the fact that Carmella won it. They are mad at creative for allowing the Women's Revolution to be tarnished, especially since they've been hyping this match as historic, but it was just a joke. The heat is not, "Ooh, Carmella is bad" Heat. It's, "Fucking WWE is ruining everything" heat
Michael Turner I don't hate them, I wanted Carmella to won. Won dirty with Ellsworth no less, but the finish was fucking dick after all that hype and that really good video package.
Having a truly frustrating finish is the only way to get heat from us hardcore fans. We dont know how to book things better because we are all just fans with no experience in the business.
So what? We can write better stories than those Hollywood hacks who ruin good wrestling for Kevin Dunn and Vince McMahon's ass-backwards BULLSHIT.
Whatculture should make an App, like if you agree
fuck off you cancer
It would be insane cus it can have articles and videos, so much content
Ibrahim Vohra so do my bollocks don't make an app out of them though
I agree, I would love to write articles on wrestling for an app too. Hopefully it gets done!
Ibrahim Vohra yes!!
I used to watch WtF so much more than ups and downs but now it changed. Any one else?
Vignesh Iyer Sammeeeeee
Vignesh Iyer you just described my life's story
Vignesh Iyer WTF moments are boring now
Vignesh Iyer I legit havent watched the wtf moments in like 5 months
King Ross used to be the MVP of what culture. Now he is just repetitive
I thought it was one of the better shows recently. I actually liked the ending of the women's MITB match. That's just good heel stuff. I think it'd have less resistance if it wasn't the first of its kind. Usos/New Day made New Day look strong, continued the feud, and gave the Usos heel heat. Naomi/Lana wasn't terrible although Lana looked a little nervous at times. Mahal/Orton wasn't bad for what it was. Breezango match was kinda lame. Would have been better if the surprise team wasn't The Ascension. Then the main event was great.
Chris Adams it wasn't bad but it wasn't great
Chris Adams I wouldn't have been so mad if that's how they ended it next year.
The matches where great
Ellsworth is the most over member in the womens division
I would say Santino is more over, but okay.
Kripperino Amanino Berserkerino But santino isn't in WWE anymore
I'm sure noone even noticed.
I would say Becky and Charlotte are more over then him but the rest of the women aren't as over as him
themanofamerica and puppit No Santina is
Shouldn't Jack do this as it's a Smackdown pay per view?
Wrestling Wizard pay per view*
manoliskon it's paper view. like you give them some paper and you can view
manoliskon my bad
Wrestling Wizard I have said this almost 22 times but they don't read their comments....
Lol, PAPER view. Is it view of paper?
that's the first whatculture ad I've seen that I'd happily see more often
Google Search : gender of James Elsworth
result: no f**king idea
The idea of the Usos quitting was that they were surprised about being overwelmed by the New Day. It was a "Screw it, I'm out" finish, and it was great. It's realistic, it was the only thing they had left to retain the belts, and made you want to see more of this bout. As long as the New Day win in the end, it's fine.
Now that Jinder is the permanent WWE Champion #FindJinderonTinder will be world wide!
This was a great PPV. Everyone is crazy. Aside from wwe title match, I liked it 7/10
If Ellsworth can win Miss MITB Roman can unify both women's championship
Breezango are the new Owens/Jericho, the duo that makes the show worth watching. Give them a proper push
The bell only rang when Carmella got it
so it wasn't won by a man
Atlas B yeah because in retrospect they'll show first ever woman's money in the bank briefcase being unclipped by a man and being thrown down to the helpless woman
she's just been practically KO'd by becky a few seconds before so... i dont know why people are upset that she looked weak. becky hit the ropes the same way and was out longer...
"Helpless woman"? Really? Carmella and the rest of the competitors were KILLING eachother! They looked fucking battered! Elsworth was fresh! Excuse me if Wonder Woman wasn't capable of just getting to her feet and climbing the ladder like a strong independent woman after she got repeatedly destroyed by the other 4 women!
Exactly. He helped her win. He didn't win.
vitorsly yup. the weak woman couldn't will herself up a ladder so a man had to do it for her. this is the image that was portrayed.
Haven't been able to keep up with the IWC due to work and honestly, it made me enjoy wrestling so much more. I thought Money in the Bank was great! Some of the endings sucked, but I think the Ellesworth finish works for Carmellas character while not burying any of the other competitors.
Giving a down to Jinder Mahal because he's a hell and won the match cheating, despite the match being great, you are running out of excuses to hate Jinder
Ookurikara Rex 大倶利伽羅 レックス Yeah, that's the point, why giving him a down If he's doing his work right
Jaime Moyano Randy screwed Randy
1) Simon doesn't hate Jinder.
2) He said the match was solid.
3) What he meant was that the ending was lazy and unimaginative.
The "great" part of that match was Randy going crazy and killing the Singh bros. His actual match with Mahal's was nothing special.
what was great about that match? The only bit I thought was good was when Orton went mental on the brothers
Simon you're a dope. Ellsworth grabbing the briefcase was pure gold and the start of something much greater then a few weeks of heat. How can you not see he's clearly going to clothes line the women champion before Carmela cashes in and wins the belt. Great booking that actually brings the real heat.
james elsworth is the modern santino marella 100%
xXIMPULSEXx not even close. Santino was actually a good locker room guy or so I've heard and was actually decent
MB DCXIV I like Ellsworth more than Santino. I was so glad when he retired
1. those finishes makes you want to tune into smackdown on Tuesday. they did their job
2. the heat Carmella and the uso got was great that's a heel for you
3. the uso left because there was too many near falls and they almost lost. they realize we don't know if we can beat them so too keep our titles let's leave to keep it that heel work
I'm early let me make a joke
Ending of Woman's Money in the bank match
It was great, Ellsworth is more over than all the women anyway
Wrestling Roots Ellsworth needs to go!
Wrestling Roots Yes
fuck ellsworth
Henry V not happy that Ellsworth interfered but mine happy about carmela
no up or down for the hype bros preshow? that was good! I've never seen such a good crowd for a preshow
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂that intro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nice vid Simon
I thought "Extreme Rules" sucks..
oOBlueBubbleOo how? Extreme rules was awesome
Bullet Club
I mean espacially how Women gets threated.. Bailey vs Alexa was shit as fuck.. and now this whole first ever Womens "Money in the Bank" was bullcrap as hell!!!
oOBlueBubbleOo both sucked but had semi good matches
I love proving people wrong! I can't believe dumbasses actually believed that this would be the greatest women's match in forever. SD definitely utilizes their women alright.
You guys are LITERALLY the only people that I've heard that didn't like this... besides comment sections, but comment sections hate everything
how did you end up with a 4-3 score? at whatculture.com/wwe the article had 5 ups and 7 downs.
And lets be real, nobody thought mitb lived up to expectations.
except the man's mitb match, which was amazing. also i liked the fashion files.
But how can you give those other 2 ups. that debut was just random as fuck and did nothing to get you exited and lana vs naomi was not only really bad, lana should never have to whresle her first match at a ppv. a ppv match needs to look and feel like something great but this was just really poor.
you should never spell wrestle again
tobias sluijter two different people doing the list. One person may agree that something is good but the other may think it's bad.
Haha sod you King Ross I answered the question correctly to say I never watched a full episode of wcw! I used to flip over in WWF advertisement breaks, mainly for Goldberg!
When Sami gets a title match I will always be worrying that Barron will come out and cash in
The end of the Randy vs Jinder ending seemed to me like a repeat of the backlash match. Almost all of the matches at Money in the bank were great. But the ending......my god
Does no one else think that Lana needs to not shriek like a banshee for the entirity of a match?
Alexander Northover never watched a Melina match then I take it?
first time im gonna say this. but simon, you're dead wrong. MITB is a great show, it was a fantastic show, and i loved every second of it.
Ellsworth wining MITB just gets heat on him and carmella which was the WHOLE POINT OF HIM DOING IT. i swear you guys don't think about why something is booked a certain way.
the Uso's thought they could steamroll new day, they only decided to take a walk after they figured out that they were about to lose.
Breezango were not originally attacked by the ascension. its fairly obvious they were just another red herring, just like every single tag team they have gone up against so far.
Jinder won. it was a good match, Orton seems to care for once.
Lana is still really green, but a lot better than i expected and she needs a bit more of a singlet cause i don't want to see her vag every time she does a kick, but apparently r/wrestlewiththeplot does so whatever.
Men's MITB match was fantastic. owens took way too many hard bumps, and someone is reporting his hip is injured, hope its minor.
F.A.B.U.L.O.U.S
They keep hating on me I don't stress
Don't got time for this
Yes I'm FABULOUS
James Melia Big hair high heels and a fur jacket
I actualy realy injoyed MItb and Randy did realy well in that match too im also happy that Baron won i realy injoy watching him
can you guys do me a favor and stop spoiling pay per views in your thumb nails?
U should start giving one up or down for the match/performances and another one for the finish/result
I want Jack
same
Lileeh Jackson Die? Diego? Hi there you summoned me from the depths of Pasta
I like Simon but fucking hell, he's already on 80% of vids now hes getting SDL PPV's?
said no one ever
I Loved The Pop When James Looked At The Briefcase
It's all downhill from here
FINALLY I got one of the trivia questions right.
Also the video was there too I guess.
I thought MitB was okay. Left me feeling happy, and they put the disappointment at the beginning.
WWE is dying a slow death, The McMahon family have killed it
knight099159 Vince must retire before it's too late
knight099159 Vince has ruined the product.
knight099159 no just Vince is killing it. #weneedtripleh
knight099159 #TripleH
This PPV had the potential of the world... but why am I surprised
Money In The Bank was garbage, leave it to WWE to ruin the first ever women's money in the bank ladder match.....SMH
Paige I completely agree
Paige lol stfu it was great
Paige stfu u feminist
Lol it was great get worked, mark
The butthurt fans really did make this PPV :') great womens MITB match.
Thank you for not giving jbl a down
ELLSWORTH DIDN'T WIN. HE DOESN'T HAVE A CONTRACT. YOU'RE JUST MAD THAT A HEEL WON THE MATCH. SHOW ME THAT ELLSWORTH WON THE MATCH. DO YOU GET MAD WHEN MARYSE HELPS THE MIZ AND SAY IT'S AGAINST MEN? PROBABLY NOT
i think the main issue is they hyped it so much about being this historic thing for women, and in the end it was essentially won by a man.
Anita Anderson it wasn't won by a man tho lmao
Anthony you completely missed the point, there is nothing wrong with the heel getting some help to win the match, the problem is that carmella should have been the one to climb the ladder and get the briefcase no ellsworth, im sure he could have helped her some other way without getting the briefcase himself
seeing how the first competitor to get the briefcase wins. James ellsworth wasn't a competitor but gave it to carmella so technically carmella wins by doing not a lot. kinda like luigi from Mario. I mean some people wanted her to win but people don't like how she won
Anthony oh and... easy on the caps lock.
this ppv just felt like an episode of smackdown live and it's so obvious that they did all of it so they could get a ratings bump on Tuesday
it wasn't a joke finish. the finish works because she is a HEEL. this heat on Ellsworth will be transferred to her because eventually when she turns on him she will be hated even more because she gunna curve him once she gets the title. i get that everyone is up in arms about it being the first women's mitb match and thinks carmella should've just climbed the ladder but they also wanted to create heat and get everyone talking about the match just like this! also ellsworth is her manager, he did what a manager was suppose to do. help their superstar win by any means necessary. don't look at it as a man handing a woman an opportunity, look at it as a manager just helping there superstar win by any means. carmella was also suppose to be out of it from that powerbomb by becky. also when ellsworth was climbing that ladder how nuclear did that arena get? supernova status! i know it is the first one but on a positive note for wwe it has everyone talking and interested. with that ending i think they could create more storylines in the end (if SD creative and writers want to take it more further/thank god it isn't RAW's team). maybe they'll have another mitb match with ellsworth being banned from ringside; or maybe becky is going to want to start a feud with carmella over the briefcase because she has a legitimate reason because ellsworth screwed her as the final woman to climb the ladder and almost bring it down; charlotte, nattie, tamina, and lana will probably fight to become number 1 contender for the SD live womens title; also when nikki bella comes back and if carmella has the title, they may also refresh that rivalry; maybe becky somewhere down the line can turn heel if she continues not to get opportunities, and to get the storyline over she turns on charlotte because she is her best friend or nikki bella if she is just handed a title shot after coming right back... idk its something to think on! also in the days of edge and lita, i bet no one would have had too much of a problem with lita taking down the briefcase for edge and just tossing it to him. with the team xtreme example, it doesn't work because they are FACE and in those matches titles were on the line, not the briefcase. briefcase guarantees you an opportunity to a title match with still possibly to lose. highly not likely, but can still lose the title match. also the briefcase cash in's work more in a HEEL's favor instead of a FACE because it is a sneaky tactic. certain FACE's can get it over if being sneaky or tactical like that is in their character but mostly HEEL's have been running the show in mitb #justathought #dive
Simon with that Booker T impression at the start.
i personally enjoyed seeing the feminists freak about ellsworth
A BK Vince McMahon probably came in Reigns mouth when Ellsworth took the briefcase.
A BK you don't even know the definition of 'feminist'
A BK This has nothing to do with feminists. It has everything to do with shitting all over the Women's revolution.
You're an idiot.
Tom White he's talking about feminists watching the ppv or heard about the finish 🤦🏿♂️
I admit WWE got me when Carmella came back out. I thought "Well the women's MITB wasn't great, and the ending was stupid. But this could be good, Carmella and Elsworth saw DB's tweet and decided to cash in the briefcase before the boss can take it away from them on Smackdown, that actually is a good twist." But nope, it was more stupidity and I felt stupid for assuming anything more from WWE.
Bald egg
ScorpionVip5 opposed to... a hairy egg?
I really enjoyed the Uso's vs New Day. My personal favorite match of the night
Night of 1000 Terrible Finishes
I don't know why everyone is crapping on this show, as someone in the live crowd last night we all loved it live. Everyone in the stadium thought it was great from what I could tell, at least everyone in my section.
4 ups 3 downs, no need to watch the video, thank me later
What a dumb comment. You actually think it's about the numbers, what a small brain you have.
for sure ibrahim vohra
Ibrahim Vohra Okay. we know how many ups and down... that being said I'm still gonna watch the vid. One: Because it's Simon, Goldberg's illegitimate British Done. Two: because I wanna know WHAT the ups and downs were.
damn simon is working out so good. 👍
Raw > Smackdown
#RawIsUnderRated
#SmarksLoveSmackdown
#SmarkDownLive
NerdKiller Momkiller You shouldn't lie
Smackdown > Raw
#Rawismeh
#VinceLovesRaw
#RawmeansRomanAlwaysWins
The best channel ever is called TheGreatOne
Naomi vs Lana - pointless, Lana shouldn't have been in the ring and Carmella shouldn't have came out.
fashion police vs that other team - who cares
Maria's return - eh
women's mitb - a man won...should I say more?
Jinder vs Orton - repeat of backlash
men's mitb - best match on the card by far, but the most boring super star on the roster won....
men's tag champ match - eh, not bad
its like the just fucked everything up for the hell of it
Women's MITB - Was booked well with a good ending.
Tag Title Match - Both are shit teams, so meh.
Naomi vs Lana - Both are horrid, so what else can you expect?
Maria/Mike - They (WWE) already ruined their characters, lol.
Jinder vs Orton - You're right, but still a good match.
Fashion Police vs The Ascension - Throwaway match, but good.
Men's MITB - Don't understand the booking of Nakamura.. Made zero sense, and we got a bad MITB winner. Good match, though.
Naomi vs. Lana - Wasn't good, too many rest holds.
Fashion Police vs. Ascension - I care it was a random, but still good match.
Maria and Mike Kanellis - Marked out for a bit. Weird characters. Hopefully this doesn't turn out as shitty as it looks.
Women's MITB - A man won, but to complain about that is such a feminist thing to do considering the match was good.
Jinder vs. Orton - Kind of a repeat, still good. Predictable finish, but I'm glad Jinder retained.
Men's MITB - Best Match. Awesome showdown between Styles and Nakamura! Corbin is a smark killer. Predictable, but glad he won, gives him something to do! If we're talking boring then Ziggler would've won, or Nakamura would've had a comeback finish after laying out the whole match.
Tag Title Match - Great match! Ending could've happened on an episode of SmackDown, but it keeps the heel side of the Usos alive without giving New Day a loss.
Moral is: it's not the worst PPV ever.
Who else agrees that if your giving something a down, to not be like "it was good/it was alright" and building it like it's an up
Jack The Jobbber > Simon Miller
Noooope
Rui Ribeiro they are both pretty nice guys
Adam or whoever from WC is on the channel atm.
Tell the main Adam, to look at the email entitled "Potential solution to the "wrestling isn't ad-friendly" situation on TH-cam"
Which will give direction, to help solve this wrestling situation.
Soooooooo... Is Ellsworth transgender now?
Black Out oohhhhh he's something alrite lol
Black Out No, just female
Trans-ginger
best intro on youtube
First
congrats you were
Yeeeee, thanks
So much potential in every match, though in each match they found a way to fuck it up.
the most casual wrestling fan at whatculture who plainly doesn't watch most of the product
Kudos Kevin on those bumps
If they just had to do a screwy finish, they could have done the following;
With Carmella prone on the mat, Ellsworth climb the ladder as he did and attempt to get the brief case; then have one of the Divas not named Carmella knock him off the ladder. Ellsworth takes a bump and it leaves said Diva with an uncontested opportunity to get the briefcase. They make their ascend (slowly to add dramatic effect), as they make it to the top and grab hold of the briefcase, a now conscious Carmella knocks them off the ladder; while this occurs the Diva manages to unhook the briefcase but loses her grip on it because of the ladder falling. The briefcase drops and Carmella catches it. Yes, it's ridiculous and would be a tough spot to pull of but it gives Vince the screwy finish he wanted and I think something a little less underwhelming then the finish they went with.
Instead of having the clustermuck that they did. At least this way it would only be between Carmella and one other Diva. It would give Carmella heat, and set up a brief feud to determine the rightful winner of the Money in the Bank. It could also make Naomi sweat a little bit with the idea that two divas could cash in the briefcase at anytime.
Or they could have just gone with a non-screwy finish but WWE. I would have had Asuka debut. Be crazy for her to win it on her first WWE non-NXT Pay-Per-View but what else does she honestly have left to prove in NXT?
I liked the ending of the Tag Team match, firstly because the match was awesome and I had no idea who could have won and secondly because walking out of the arena with the titles feels like it may lead to a stipulation match! I think the order of the matches is what killed the PPV. It was never going to be an amazing PPV, but it could've been much better if the matches were in a different order.
"be prepared; there's going to be a lot of downs"
*gives more ups than downs*
A match's finish isn't too important as long as the right person won
You know Carmellsworth are doing an excellent job as heels when the entire Smarks division is heated
I somehow liked the WMINB ending, left me with a wtf-face and I like that. Was waiting for shane to come out and restart the match tbh. Also I am really hyped for SD now, wanna know what shane and daniel are going to do, they got me hooked ^^ and I thinkt that is exactly what they were aiming for.
Over all it was good show in my opinion.
It was a solid PPV to me the Ellsworth helping Carmella win & usos walking out the match is what heels do.. you suppose to hate em
The Orton - Jinder finish really pissed me off because it was exactly the same at backlash. Randy about to win then Singh brothers distraction, Randy beats up Singh brothers, gets back in ring then Jinder places him on the floor and wins
Jinder Mahal is an amazing heel, he gets heat like no one else can... Now maybe one day he can learn how to wrestle!
thanks Simon for not giving a down for JBL commentating
STOP SCROLLING AND LISTEN NOW!
The problem wasn't that Ellsworth interfered. We expected that. But he actually went up and retrieved the case in the FIRST ever WOMEN'S MITB match! Notice how I say the FIRST!
Damn Simon, The veins on those guns are starting to become intimidating. Good Job.
I think Shane/Daniel is going to make her defend the MITB briefcase against the other 4 women for the next 4 weeks.
The St. Louis crowd deserves an Up.
I think Jack the Jobber should as host for "Ups & Downs From Last Nights WWE Smackdown Live" do the Ups & Downs for the Smackdown PPVs
Santino Marella won Miss WretleMania title, not the Women's Championship. It was Harvey Wippleman who won the Women's Title under the guise of "Hervina".
I don't mind the count out finish, and as for simon's point of 'why not get counted out straight away' you could say the Uso's wanted to beat the New Day but as time went on they decided to cut there loses. Iv'e got no problem with it.
"You might want to focus on the 'down', because I think we're gonna get a lot of those."
proceeds to give 4 ups and 3 downs
I don't understand the down for the Usos ducking out. They were winning most of the match and with their gimmick of running the place, they would not purposely leave if they are wrecking shop. But once they started losing they are like 'nah, not risking a comeback' and take the champion's advantage. That is classic heel work!
Simon that's incorrect I thoroughly remember lita grabbing the wwe title for edge queen sharmell attempting to grab money in the bank for king booker and AJ lee grabbing the IC title for Ziggler
Honestly if you give some thought to the Uso vs New Day and Jinder vs Randy you could actually give an up to both since both matches were great despite the outcome.
Favorite series
I personally thought the finishes were good and much needed uses of heel intelligence. In no-DQ matches people are always like, "Why aren't they just using weapons? Etc." Why doesn't Ellsworth interfere? Why don't heel champions abuse their "Champions Advantage?" Well this time they did. It keeps that option on the table and makes the proper finishes better when they happen, because they don't have to every time. Heel tactics are a necessary evil and they generated a ton of heat.
Greatest intro ever
I got the trivia question right! Yay. It was a guess though. I remember shawn michaels's trump card from ages ago and his photo was posing in the nwo shirt with kevin nash behind him :D
Did you changed the format of Up & Downs? Why there isn't a screen capture accordingly to the segment that Simon is talking about?
Ellsworth grabbed the Briefcase, but the bell didn't ring until after Carmella had it in her hands.
Santino never won the Women's Championship, he won Miss Wrestlemania at Wrestlemania 25 as Santina, and whilst it was suggested, it was never explicitly outlined that Santino and Santina we're the same character
Will we see a Miz & Maryse VS The Kanellis match, at Summer Slam?
I actually really liked the show it was a bold move and I really like all the matches