When these came out i was working in the company that made the instrument cluster. One of our engineers got to drive one of the from Alice Springs down to Adelaide. She was that impressed that she bought one.
I have owned one since new and it has been an awesome car. My car is just about to clock up 153,000km and hasn’t missed a beat. It averages 8.7-8.9L/100km in city peak hour traffic too. Highway consumption is around 6.9-7.0. The 2.0 weighs about 100kg less than the NA 4.0. However, Ford added about 25kg extra sound deadening on the Ecoboost models, so they weigh about 75kg less than the equivalent NA4.0 version. The biggest issue I think is that Ford, in typical fashion, didn’t advertise this option and so very few people even know of their existence. I’ve even taken my car to a mechanic that refused to believe me when I told him that my Falcon was a 2.0L 4 cylinder. I had to open the bonnet and show him the engine before he believed me.
Awesome feedback mate! Yes the marketing department for Ford back then was just absolutely non existent 💀 it’s amazing how many people still don’t know they exist
@@RossReviewsau thanks. Something I did not mention before is that the 2.0 Ecoboost Kuga AWD is actually about 50kg heavier than the Ecoboost Falcon. And they only came with the 149kw tune, not the 179kw tune.
reminds me of the Petrol ford ranger PX1 around 2012 to 214 that had a 2.5L petrol in them. a mate wanted one as a car to take shit to the dump in on weekends and i went and looked at it with him on fb marketplace thinking when i would turn up that it would be a 2.2 or a 3.2 becuase the person had listed the specs wrong, thinking they only made diesels i stood with the hood up thinking "WTF" whe it was indeed a petrol
Fun fact: This was the first ever Ford model with an ecoboost to be RWD. I do honestly reckon this was an awesome alternative to the Na Barra. Especially with the 2.0 Ecoboost there’s a massive tuning scene behind them since they were in numerous Ford products. Was heavily considering one but went Na Barra because of the reliability and availability of parts
I always liked these 2L Falcons. Surprised they didn’t sell so well with such good fuel economy. The 2L motor was quick considering the size of the car. I think this car would be a very good buy for someone after the economy and a very good looking car. Very good review as always.
Yea well the bara was a more A more reliable engine in terms of service life let me remind you the 2 L eco-boost engine Is made by mazda and ford as a collaboration and While it’s a good engine in hatches for the Ford falcon the Barra is the much more popular choice In the Barra which is better at towing as is and You can literally just bolt a turbo And put a built bottom end and you’ve got a 1000hp capable motor
It was a pretty unique set up being a large rear drive four cylinder turbocharged sedan designed not to be sporty. I think it's cool hearing a four cylinder note coming out of one of these and the better dynamics and fuel economy it brings is very enticing. Much appreciate the review.
I always had an idea for these to put an XR6 body kit on them, take the badges off, get an XR4 badges from a fiesta and a turbo badge from an XR6 turbo and make it an XR4 turbo.
I was a technician at Stilwell Ford when these were released.. no fanfare no advertising just quietly slipped onto the market. I saw 2 at our PD holding yard. The only reason this car exists is through a government handout so Ford could make a more efficient Falcon, they took the money and ran! But in all seriousness I remember doing a pre delivery inspection on one and it was quite a good car, it felt as quick as the 6 ( to a point ) that eco boost engine was a good thing, I also felt that the handling was far better than the 6 that motor is mounted a fair way back in the engine bay. I was shocked to discover that it didn’t have a rear sway bar fitted.. The real issue though was it was more expensive than a 4 cyl Camry of the time hell even the non turbo xr6 was similarly priced, buyers chose the 6 over the 4.
My wife has had a G6 Ecoboost for four years. A very capable and comfortable car. Caught at 90 km/h behind a car and accelerating to 120 km/h to pass is the car's sweet spot. Also, the design of the turbo means the bearing that actuates the wastegate flogs out. Ours was unserviceable at 140km and a new turbo was installed. I discovered that the bearing is a servicing issue every 80-100k. I was quoted $500 all up for removal, bearing fix at the turbo place and reinstallation. I really like the car and we have had no issues other than the turbo in our 80,000km ownership (car now at 180k).
I’ve got a 2012 g6e ecoboost as a daily and a na Fgx Xr6, great car the g6e zippy and can definitely feel the less weight over the front, makes the steering much sharper in the g6e Performance wise the g6e does not feel that much slower
My parents have had one since 2016 and have loved it. Great on fuel, and my sceptical dad got it well beyond 150 when he was racing mum to hospital. On the tuning side of things, there was a tuner working on cracking the computer, apparently it's bogged down with Ford emissions controls and the like. Seen one with an exhaust that sounded better than an NA barra
Good to see a stock standard car on the channel for a change 😛 I drove one when they were new. I liked them, they had good low end power just like the standard N/A Barras. I now own a Mondeo Ecoboost and I dare say that it feels quicker and more nimble than my BF Fairmont that I had before. Only thing is - it doesn't sound as good. I've owned two Falcons for a total of 19 years, and when I get in them, they're familiar, they feel familiar and the sound of the six cylinder motor is very familiar. Change that to a 2.0-litre four, and suddenly it doesn't feel right. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but when you've become accustomed to certain sights, touches, and sounds - and yes, even smells - anything else feels foreign.
@@Carcyclechronicles my mate had a Mondeo diesel for work car. 150,000km was great, then the auto trans went berserk wouldn't go into gears, got stuck in the middle of the road, not moving. Off to the wreckers!
Towards the end, the main reason people chose a Falcon was because of the Barra. So the Ecoboost was at a disadvantage. Problem was Ford didn’t bother marketing it. At the time, even I forgot it existed. Not selling it with XR6 spec was a mistake too. The lighter front end due to the lighter and shorter engine meant it handled and steered better, so why not make the most of it? At the time BMW and Audi were selling most of their sedans with turbo 4s and a sports package. No ads or marketing and grandpa spec only made them salesproof.
A friend from highschool got this as his first car when we got our red P's, he got it tuned up and slightly built and he ended up being quicker than all me and my other mates who had 6 cylinder commodores and falcons.
Best thing about the EcoBoost is the significantly better gearing over the pos 6cyl rear ends being 2.73 vs the EcoBoost's 3.27 😂😂 The handling is noticeably better up front having atleast 100kg+ less weight over the front axle. They get the Chinese made ZF 6HP21 sadly which leached it's way into the FG-X (inc all 6cyl engines) NON TURBO Turbo 6 & V8 both retained the 6HP26 7 sec roughly @ sea level
Hell yeah, Nick! I’ve been thinking about this driveline or the Mustang 2.3 setup into an old Capri. They can be tuned to produce good power/torque and provide much better chassis balance compared to a Barra or Windsor swap. Besides which, we can’t get engineering approval for the v8 in NSW anymore.😥
@@bengibson3955 I had a 1970 Capri (Banana Yellow with the fake wood dash🤣 ) I reckon if you put the 2.3 ECO Boost in it, the front end would rip off the chassis under heavy acceleration 😂😂🤣🤣
I remember One of my clients had this Falcon 2 L. On the side of it had advertising about the 2 L engine saying how fuel efficient and environmentally friendly it is. But exactly right it was probably trying to entice buyers no a more fuel-efficient falcon
My parents had a g6 ecoboost if you’re looking for one they did have turbo and coolant tank issues. Both of which happened to their car. Other wise pretty good combination
I have a 2 litre g6e and its a comfy car to drive to work and back. Tried to get a remap done and only place in Perth that would give it a shot kept getting error codes so it's standard. Over east they are getting massive power and torque increase with remap and running on 98 octane. Only thing I've added is a high flow air filter and a gfb diverted valve. If some one in perth could tune it I'd be keen.
Yeah was done to try and have the Falcon appeal to more buyers at the time. But as we know Falcon sales where well and truly on the decline by then as not a lot of buyers wanted these cars anymore which was sad. Compare it to 1986 when every second family car on the road was an XF Falcon
Our business has 2 falcon 6 seat limos, one N/A Barra, one slightly newer 2.0T. The 2.0T is pretty good, smooth, better on fuel and the 6sp Getrag auto is great, hold gears and is smooth and fast for a slush box…. However, the N/A Barra is an animal (for a limo) the gearbox is dim witted but that motor….. it hauls and sounds amazing. I can only imagine a turbo Barra in a normal body must be terrific. We don’t get Falcons in the UK, we only have the limos because Coleman Milne converted them. When the Barra limo is done for client duties I’m deffo having THAT motor. I prefer it to the lower power V8’s we have in Europe. It’s an experience, they are muscular.
,my mates dad has the same one in the 2ltr. And Me and my mate drove it from Bunbury to Perth for 2 days and back to Bunbury. And it was ok. Felt like a falcon untill you got to Perth City and felt gutless in town. But on highway it was ok. But cheap af to do them almost 609ks we did in it. Lol
Fun to watch this video as there's few reviews of the Ecoboost Falcon. I just bought a '14 G6E Ecoboost (with only 41k kms) last week to replace my VF Holden Commodore SS-V (that had a crazy low 22k kms) Why go from a 6.2 to a 2.0 and half the cylinders? As fun as the Holden is, fill ups at the pump are a killer and the reality is that there's few opportunities in the real world to drive it fast. Insurance hurts too. The FGE is similar in size and the 2.0 is no slouch. It's not going to blaze the world on fire but is more than sufficient from a red light. The steering is fantastic and it has a more tossable feel in the corners. Overall, it's almost as fun in day to day life and it's special having a rare package that even a lot of Falcon enthusiasts didn't know existed.
Depending on state it’s also a fair bit cheaper to register than a barra or v8. I wouldn’t mind one, be hard to beat for a comfy daily that won’t get you into trouble. If I remember right, they were mainly to be fleet cars, and were aimed at a specific govt contract that had engine size and fuel economy restraints. Ford made the EB falcon and then the govt dept changed the criteria (some might say deliberately) which excluded the falcon.
I'd love to see you do a review of a Ford FG MK2 ECOLPI XR6 (Gas Injection). I actually own one and they have a very good take off with lots of torque. I nail most cars off the lights in mine 😁🏁.
I like this car. It's good looking and cruiser cars are just right for me. Obviously since I drive a 2010 Toyota Corolla and really enjoy it. The 140 horsepower 1.8L 4 cylinder is great. I've never noticed a lack of power in any type of driving. When I was a kid my family had the original 1960 Ford Falcon.
My ford kuga had this engine, with some simple mods; Focus rs airbox Kn filter Iridium plugs Mishimoto intercooler Turbo back exhaust (mettams muffler) Custom tune (ramp auto) Sonnax zip kit Turbosmart kompact Absolutely ripped, draggy app said 5.7 0-100. Fuel economy when on the freeway was amazing, sounded decent for a 4 banger and was really great to daily (had H&R lowering springs too) Sold it, bought lpg ba wagon lol - hope to drop a boss 290 In it and get a spoolin boost turbo kit for it 😁....one day
That is a very cool and unique car! The word at the time was that it was an experiment to test the waters for the ecoboost engine on a RWD platform with the steering wheel on the correct side of the car to prepare for the mustang. Great video as always!!!
I bought a 2012 g6 ecoboost in 2014. Absolute steal at the time. Mint condition 23,000 on the clock and it was only $19k from a dealership. It was a good car. Compared to my 08 fairmont ghia, it wasnt lacking at all for the day to day driving. Sold the g6 and kept the ghia. Not because there was anything wrong with the ecoboost, i just prefer a lot of things more about a bf2 ghia over a fg2 g6.
I've got the super base one of these. XT ecoboost, ex-taxi, 235000km. It gets 12.5l/100km on my 4km each way inter-suburb commute and a bit under 8l/100km on highway-ish road trips. I'm expecting that to improve a little once summer ends as I drop from 37 degree days to something that doesn't push the AC and intake temps so hard. Rego is also cheaper. For the record, OBD reported boost is 18psi, but I didn't see if that was a spike or a normal level. Eventually I'll be doing basic mods to it, like whatever intake and exhaust parts I can scrounge from the Barra turbo models, and maybe make myself a decent dump pipe. I'll hopefully end up doing a mid 14 second quarter mile. The factory turbo on these is super tiny. They make around 150rwkw stock (allegedly) I really don't think there's enough turbo to get to 200 without swapping it to something less responsive
I've had one for ten years now. Reliability from the engine has been solid. No issues at all but the inlet valves should be cleaned of carbon deposits. Economy?! No. Power is power. If you lean on it it'll suck fuel. Handling? Yeah, a little more balanced. Hindsight I should have stuck with the Barra for two reasons: The ZF is tuned to differently and isn't as seamless as it is with the Barra. And secondly the smoothness of the Barra as well as its deeper burble.
The divide between this and a Barra is huge in terms of displacement... Hmmmm... An interesting if not ball tearing choice and I'm with you - what tuning potential does it have?
I averaged 8.8ltrs per 100km this morning in my VF SS LS3 roaring through the Adelaide hills... Obviously its more like 11.5 to 13 when city driving and launching hard for 100kms but the hill climbing is so effortless that going back down the hills end up bringing it right down to an average that beats 6's and some 4's and yet it's a 6.2ltr pushrod V8
Dude that's the most optimistic fuel economy claim in one of those I've ever heard. Driven a heap of LSs including the VF, from the 5.7 to the 6.2 I've never heard of nor seen that, nor have any mates that own them. 18 to 20Lp100 is the norm, and 11.5 around town- your trip computer is definitely on the fritz dude. Or you're running so lean your almost running on air. Sorry but just no way
@@Flying_GC I have a supercharged LS3 VE HSV and I get like 12-13L...but you're right it must be wrong cause my range in a full tank is 370km to 405km max, and I drive 50% highway to work, so how can I be 12-13L but I do drive rough so there is that too
@@Flying_GC where should I semd you the picture of it? Actually I just made it my profile picture just for you. I don't lie and don't need to be optimistic. It actually happened
Its not on the fritz at all! Ive had 9 V8s and it was normal for ls1s to average 12.5 for many drivers.. This was hill driving... i don't really care if you don't believe it but don't try and be an armchair diagnostic. My car is perfectly fine and those numbers are what I got
Awesome vid👍ahead of its time, I reckon would sell well in today’s market, I would love have 2.0lt in Falcon ute n G6E interior. Yeah show pony but jokes aside nice cruise ute.
Just a few bits and pieces like an intercooler, intake ect and that 2.0L will fkn leave a non turbo falcon for dead IMO.. my parents had 1993 Fairmont 4.0L and I couldn't even get a wheel going.. maybe it had carbon buildup or something from being nannered for many years but it was so gutless. Jump in my 1.3L escort and pop a burnout anywhere just like my 1.6, 2.0 and 2.3L Corrina's, they were burnout machines lol
Most of the Ecoboost Falcons were sold into the Ford executive fleet as they did not sell.and were sold off when Ford Australia shut up shop in Australia
falcon Body with 2.0. Do a Coyote Sway in that Falcon. 6 speed ZF Auto good gear box, may or may-not need to change Rear Diff. After Coyote sway put in cold air induction with catt back exhaust.
Surprisingly nice car and pretty good performance for what it is Jon...but being a diehard Falcon nut as I am..Nup...just doesn't seem quite right ..Not shocked they didn't sell lots of them ...The ad for them that ended up being banned was great though... Ralphy , Ralphy , Oh Ralphy .....Cheers
Yes Mate the old 2L Barra wannabe lol no just kidding,she's a perfect comfy cruiser Johnny & great on the fuel economy,my FG XR6 n/a is sitting at 11.6 ltrs per 100kms but I don't travel far so I don't know how much that would drop down if I did go on a long trip,I really enjoyed this review thanks bro.
It surprised me that Ford went for the 2.0L. Even if the 2.4L was detuned slightly, the bigger heavier Falcon would have been a real head turner. Love, love, love the Barra 6, but a hotter 4cyl turbo would have been magic.
These things were great, much better than the in-line 6. But people thought it was going to be Fords, Holden Starfire four cylinder again… They were wrong.
I always thought it was an absolute travesty we didn't get those cars in the USA instead of the crap fwd based Taurus based on the Volvo platform. If I could get even that "wimpy" 2L I would. I would think that some tuning, E85, shorter axle ratio and 0-60mph in the low 5s would be possible.
Fun fact. Ford allegedly detuned the gearbox shift times on these within months of release (remapped on first service) because...... Who wants to pay so much more for a na xr6 that gets (just) beaten from the lights by an XT ecoboost?
I would've bought one I have Ford Territory with the barra motor I love it the down fall am not happy with it is the 6 speed gearbox which Ford new about the problem but never did anything about.
Personal when these came out (just generalising) that category I put them in where 8 loud/expensive, 6 sweet spot/turbo fun, 4 good quite/cheap but gutless for anything practical.
@@RossReviewsau ....I'm very tempted as my daughters first car. Just doing homework on the eco-boost engine's reliability record. Other than that, it looks neat. Anyway, second hand cars are a case by case basis.
@@RossReviewsau ....I'm very tempted as my daughters first car. Just doing homework on the eco-boost engine's reliability record. Other than that, it looks neat. Anyway, second hand cars are a case by case basis.
I don't mind the engine but long term reliability would be my main concern. Sure you can find them with high k's but most of them where rep mobiles doing high km's everyday vs an average use car and driving long km's everyday is often better for an engine than the average short trips. Do we know if the 2l ecoboost has any of the head gasket issues the 2.3l ecoboost had/has?
Ford lost a wonderful opportunity in putting the 2:7 ltr diesel engine from the Ford Territory as the Territory was a falcon under the body shell. Would of been a great seller to the grey nomads towing Caravans etc.
It was a trial aimed at the market you discuss. Same motor has been in a few ford cars including the mustang. They were known to loose power over time but were good for what they were intended for. There is some aftermarket support in usa and europe for these. A small amount of the early ones in aussie had leaky head gaskets, but was fixed by new gasket deck the block and head and better quality head bolts. I think it’s hilarious to have one of these. I had one for a few months as a company/fleet vehicle. For the highway and country road driving i was doing it was fine.
![บังเอิญมันได้อ่ะ - แอน อรดี [OFFICIAL MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9fwjammKY4A/mqdefault.jpg)
When these came out i was working in the company that made the instrument cluster. One of our engineers got to drive one of the from Alice Springs down to Adelaide. She was that impressed that she bought one.
really! thats cool.. its a good car eh.. if performance is not your thing and economy is more important
I have owned one since new and it has been an awesome car. My car is just about to clock up 153,000km and hasn’t missed a beat. It averages 8.7-8.9L/100km in city peak hour traffic too. Highway consumption is around 6.9-7.0.
The 2.0 weighs about 100kg less than the NA 4.0. However, Ford added about 25kg extra sound deadening on the Ecoboost models, so they weigh about 75kg less than the equivalent NA4.0 version.
The biggest issue I think is that Ford, in typical fashion, didn’t advertise this option and so very few people even know of their existence. I’ve even taken my car to a mechanic that refused to believe me when I told him that my Falcon was a 2.0L 4 cylinder. I had to open the bonnet and show him the engine before he believed me.
Awesome feedback mate! Yes the marketing department for Ford back then was just absolutely non existent 💀 it’s amazing how many people still don’t know they exist
@@RossReviewsau thanks. Something I did not mention before is that the 2.0 Ecoboost Kuga AWD is actually about 50kg heavier than the Ecoboost Falcon. And they only came with the 149kw tune, not the 179kw tune.
@@kelvinhill9874 how do you rate the performance for daily driving?
@@TKDPWR the performance is just fine. It’s on par with the regular non turbo 4.0 six cylinder models.
reminds me of the Petrol ford ranger PX1 around 2012 to 214 that had a 2.5L petrol in them. a mate wanted one as a car to take shit to the dump in on weekends and i went and looked at it with him on fb marketplace thinking when i would turn up that it would be a 2.2 or a 3.2 becuase the person had listed the specs wrong, thinking they only made diesels i stood with the hood up thinking "WTF" whe it was indeed a petrol
Fun fact: This was the first ever Ford model with an ecoboost to be RWD. I do honestly reckon this was an awesome alternative to the Na Barra. Especially with the 2.0 Ecoboost there’s a massive tuning scene behind them since they were in numerous Ford products. Was heavily considering one but went Na Barra because of the reliability and availability of parts
I’d be keen to see one that modified eh! Got potential for sure
@@RossReviewsau Maxx performance has tuned a few. And also why no mention of the Mustang ecoboost given its the same motor?
@@Low760 not the same motor the mustang ecoboost is 2.3
@@hamishwatts5593 sorry but a longer stroke is still going to be the same block and head
@@Low760 It's still not the same motor though. They are a little different.
I always liked these 2L Falcons. Surprised they didn’t sell so well with such good fuel economy. The 2L motor was quick considering the size of the car. I think this car would be a very good buy for someone after the economy and a very good looking car. Very good review as always.
Thanks Peter yeh people would like it now with petrol prices eh
I think it came down to perception. Falcons have always been large capacity rear wheel drive cars. The Heritage!
Yea well the bara was a more A more reliable engine in terms of service life let me remind you the 2 L eco-boost engine Is made by mazda and ford as a collaboration and While it’s a good engine in hatches for the Ford falcon the Barra is the much more popular choice In the Barra which is better at towing as is and You can literally just bolt a turbo And put a built bottom end and you’ve got a 1000hp capable motor
And you could get the g6e with a Barra as well
Ford hardly advertised it at all and I think this is the first road test I’ve seen of one
It was a pretty unique set up being a large rear drive four cylinder turbocharged sedan designed not to be sporty.
I think it's cool hearing a four cylinder note coming out of one of these and the better dynamics and fuel economy it brings is very enticing.
Much appreciate the review.
cheers mate.. yeh its a weird one but still a good one id say
I always had an idea for these to put an XR6 body kit on them, take the badges off, get an XR4 badges from a fiesta and a turbo badge from an XR6 turbo and make it an XR4 turbo.
i wish they made an XR4 like this eh haha
You and me both :)
nothing stopping you.
I'm in the process of doing that
It's driving and licenced needs paint and I have the badges
I was a technician at Stilwell Ford when these were released.. no fanfare no advertising just quietly slipped onto the market. I saw 2 at our PD holding yard. The only reason this car exists is through a government handout so Ford could make a more efficient Falcon, they took the money and ran! But in all seriousness I remember doing a pre delivery inspection on one and it was quite a good car, it felt as quick as the 6 ( to a point ) that eco boost engine was a good thing, I also felt that the handling was far better than the 6 that motor is mounted a fair way back in the engine bay. I was shocked to discover that it didn’t have a rear sway bar fitted.. The real issue though was it was more expensive than a 4 cyl Camry of the time hell even the non turbo xr6 was similarly priced, buyers chose the 6 over the 4.
My wife has had a G6 Ecoboost for four years. A very capable and comfortable car. Caught at 90 km/h behind a car and accelerating to 120 km/h to pass is the car's sweet spot.
Also, the design of the turbo means the bearing that actuates the wastegate flogs out. Ours was unserviceable at 140km and a new turbo was installed. I discovered that the bearing is a servicing issue every 80-100k. I was quoted $500 all up for removal, bearing fix at the turbo place and reinstallation.
I really like the car and we have had no issues other than the turbo in our 80,000km ownership (car now at 180k).
thanks for the feedback! cool to know.. great car i felt
I’ve got a 2012 g6e ecoboost as a daily and a na Fgx Xr6, great car the g6e zippy and can definitely feel the less weight over the front, makes the steering much sharper in the g6e
Performance wise the g6e does not feel that much slower
My parents have had one since 2016 and have loved it. Great on fuel, and my sceptical dad got it well beyond 150 when he was racing mum to hospital.
On the tuning side of things, there was a tuner working on cracking the computer, apparently it's bogged down with Ford emissions controls and the like. Seen one with an exhaust that sounded better than an NA barra
The average lawn mower sounds better than a n/a barra to be fair….
@@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 An n/a barra sounds a darn site better than a fuckin V6 commodore to
With all the rain we've had the hills looks fantastic atm
its always beautiful out there :)
Good to see a stock standard car on the channel for a change 😛
I drove one when they were new. I liked them, they had good low end power just like the standard N/A Barras. I now own a Mondeo Ecoboost and I dare say that it feels quicker and more nimble than my BF Fairmont that I had before. Only thing is - it doesn't sound as good. I've owned two Falcons for a total of 19 years, and when I get in them, they're familiar, they feel familiar and the sound of the six cylinder motor is very familiar. Change that to a 2.0-litre four, and suddenly it doesn't feel right. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but when you've become accustomed to certain sights, touches, and sounds - and yes, even smells - anything else feels foreign.
How have you found the ecoboost mondeo? I'm looking into that or the diesel for a daily highway hack. Even considered an ecoboost falcon
@@Carcyclechronicles my mate had a Mondeo diesel for work car.
150,000km was great, then the auto trans went berserk wouldn't go into gears, got stuck in the middle of the road, not moving.
Off to the wreckers!
@@onedayiwillmakesomecontent I've been doing research on that. The egr valve screws them up.
Towards the end, the main reason people chose a Falcon was because of the Barra. So the Ecoboost was at a disadvantage. Problem was Ford didn’t bother marketing it. At the time, even I forgot it existed. Not selling it with XR6 spec was a mistake too. The lighter front end due to the lighter and shorter engine meant it handled and steered better, so why not make the most of it? At the time BMW and Audi were selling most of their sedans with turbo 4s and a sports package. No ads or marketing and grandpa spec only made them salesproof.
ad for it is on YT (it got pulled cos it was sick but funny)
I chose the EcoLpi (4L Barra injected LPG). Absolutely love it.
And now you have almost no where to fill up
Got a loan of one from a Ford dealer once. Without a doubt the sweetest Falcon I've ever driven in regards to handling and steering.
fair point i can see
A friend from highschool got this as his first car when we got our red P's, he got it tuned up and slightly built and he ended up being quicker than all me and my other mates who had 6 cylinder commodores and falcons.
Always been pretty decent cars. I've been thru an EA which did (650,000km) , an ED that did 460k & an AU2 that did 200k . Not many issues at all
gotta love em
Best thing about the EcoBoost is the significantly better gearing over the pos 6cyl rear ends being 2.73 vs the EcoBoost's 3.27 😂😂
The handling is noticeably better up front having atleast 100kg+ less weight over the front axle.
They get the Chinese made ZF 6HP21 sadly which leached it's way into the FG-X (inc all 6cyl engines) NON TURBO
Turbo 6 & V8 both retained the 6HP26
7 sec roughly @ sea level
Love the FG, just couldn’t go past a Barra!
UP THE BARRA
Good engine and being set up for RWD, I figured they might be a fun engine swap idea. Maybe swap one of these into a Mk2 Escort.
That would be a weapon
Hell yeah, Nick! I’ve been thinking about this driveline or the Mustang 2.3 setup into an old Capri. They can be tuned to produce good power/torque and provide much better chassis balance compared to a Barra or Windsor swap. Besides which, we can’t get engineering approval for the v8 in NSW anymore.😥
@@bengibson3955 I had a 1970 Capri (Banana Yellow with the fake wood dash🤣 ) I reckon if you put the 2.3 ECO Boost in it, the front end would rip off the chassis under heavy acceleration 😂😂🤣🤣
Ecobang. Notorious for sudden overheating bang.
Turbo a Duratec or Zetec. Kits already exist for into escort.
Now we’re talking
You really notice the lighter lump over the front wheels . They feel much more nimble.
I remember One of my clients had this Falcon 2 L. On the side of it had advertising about the 2 L engine saying how fuel efficient and environmentally friendly it is. But exactly right it was probably trying to entice buyers no a more fuel-efficient falcon
Talk about timing, I've been looking to pick one up possibly. . .and there is not much info out there about it. So thank you, coincidence much.
crazy mate must be a sign lol
all the reviews that are on YT love them.
My my what a very well maintained example! Interior is absolutely mint 👌🏾awesome review as ever mate 👍🏾
extremely clean! credit to the owner
My parents had a g6 ecoboost if you’re looking for one they did have turbo and coolant tank issues. Both of which happened to their car. Other wise pretty good combination
I have a 2 litre g6e and its a comfy car to drive to work and back. Tried to get a remap done and only place in Perth that would give it a shot kept getting error codes so it's standard. Over east they are getting massive power and torque increase with remap and running on 98 octane. Only thing I've added is a high flow air filter and a gfb diverted valve. If some one in perth could tune it I'd be keen.
Yeah was done to try and have the Falcon appeal to more buyers at the time. But as we know Falcon sales where well and truly on the decline by then as not a lot of buyers wanted these cars anymore which was sad. Compare it to 1986 when every second family car on the road was an XF Falcon
Good in Queensland where 4 cylinder cars are cheaper to register than 6 cylinder cars.
Our business has 2 falcon 6 seat limos, one N/A Barra, one slightly newer 2.0T. The 2.0T is pretty good, smooth, better on fuel and the 6sp Getrag auto is great, hold gears and is smooth and fast for a slush box….
However, the N/A Barra is an animal (for a limo) the gearbox is dim witted but that motor….. it hauls and sounds amazing.
I can only imagine a turbo Barra in a normal body must be terrific. We don’t get Falcons in the UK, we only have the limos because Coleman Milne converted them.
When the Barra limo is done for client duties I’m deffo having THAT motor. I prefer it to the lower power V8’s we have in Europe. It’s an experience, they are muscular.
,my mates dad has the same one in the 2ltr. And Me and my mate drove it from Bunbury to Perth for 2 days and back to Bunbury. And it was ok.
Felt like a falcon untill you got to Perth City and felt gutless in town. But on highway it was ok.
But cheap af to do them almost 609ks we did in it. Lol
yup its the lack of torque eh.. but when cruising it feels totally normal
Fun to watch this video as there's few reviews of the Ecoboost Falcon.
I just bought a '14 G6E Ecoboost (with only 41k kms) last week to replace my VF Holden Commodore SS-V (that had a crazy low 22k kms)
Why go from a 6.2 to a 2.0 and half the cylinders?
As fun as the Holden is, fill ups at the pump are a killer and the reality is that there's few opportunities in the real world to drive it fast. Insurance hurts too.
The FGE is similar in size and the 2.0 is no slouch. It's not going to blaze the world on fire but is more than sufficient from a red light. The steering is fantastic and it has a more tossable feel in the corners.
Overall, it's almost as fun in day to day life and it's special having a rare package that even a lot of Falcon enthusiasts didn't know existed.
Depending on state it’s also a fair bit cheaper to register than a barra or v8.
I wouldn’t mind one, be hard to beat for a comfy daily that won’t get you into trouble.
If I remember right, they were mainly to be fleet cars, and were aimed at a specific govt contract that had engine size and fuel economy restraints. Ford made the EB falcon and then the govt dept changed the criteria (some might say deliberately) which excluded the falcon.
In New Zealand we only got the Falcon XT with the Eco-boost. Ford probably figured that if you could afford a G6E you could afford to run one
Great video. Didn't even know they made a 2litre
I'd love to see you do a review of a Ford FG MK2 ECOLPI XR6 (Gas Injection). I actually own one and they have a very good take off with lots of torque. I nail most cars off the lights in mine 😁🏁.
im looking for a gas one
@Big G. Wow, you really are special.🤣🤣
I like this car. It's good looking and cruiser cars are just right for me. Obviously since I drive a 2010 Toyota Corolla and really enjoy it. The 140 horsepower 1.8L 4 cylinder is great. I've never noticed a lack of power in any type of driving. When I was a kid my family had the original 1960 Ford Falcon.
My ford kuga had this engine, with some simple mods;
Focus rs airbox
Kn filter
Iridium plugs
Mishimoto intercooler
Turbo back exhaust (mettams muffler)
Custom tune (ramp auto)
Sonnax zip kit
Turbosmart kompact
Absolutely ripped, draggy app said 5.7 0-100. Fuel economy when on the freeway was amazing, sounded decent for a 4 banger and was really great to daily (had H&R lowering springs too)
Sold it, bought lpg ba wagon lol - hope to drop a boss 290 In it and get a spoolin boost turbo kit for it 😁....one day
that would be epic to see!
That is a very cool and unique car! The word at the time was that it was an experiment to test the waters for the ecoboost engine on a RWD platform with the steering wheel on the correct side of the car to prepare for the mustang. Great video as always!!!
Steering wheel is on right side ya all nimrod
@@ronaldwarren1267 i did say the correct side of the car which is right hand drive. you got issues mate, what is your problem?
No Ross “Feel the powahhh” face. However I’m glad you showed us an unusual model.
love the weird and unusual eh
I bought a 2012 g6 ecoboost in 2014. Absolute steal at the time. Mint condition 23,000 on the clock and it was only $19k from a dealership. It was a good car. Compared to my 08 fairmont ghia, it wasnt lacking at all for the day to day driving. Sold the g6 and kept the ghia. Not because there was anything wrong with the ecoboost, i just prefer a lot of things more about a bf2 ghia over a fg2 g6.
There is an Ecoboost not far from me with a F6 bodykit, brakes, wheels and intercooler.
Looks the part...
I've got the super base one of these. XT ecoboost, ex-taxi, 235000km.
It gets 12.5l/100km on my 4km each way inter-suburb commute and a bit under 8l/100km on highway-ish road trips. I'm expecting that to improve a little once summer ends as I drop from 37 degree days to something that doesn't push the AC and intake temps so hard. Rego is also cheaper.
For the record, OBD reported boost is 18psi, but I didn't see if that was a spike or a normal level.
Eventually I'll be doing basic mods to it, like whatever intake and exhaust parts I can scrounge from the Barra turbo models, and maybe make myself a decent dump pipe. I'll hopefully end up doing a mid 14 second quarter mile. The factory turbo on these is super tiny. They make around 150rwkw stock (allegedly) I really don't think there's enough turbo to get to 200 without swapping it to something less responsive
Imagine of they made a variation that used the Diesel V6 from the Territory as well
diesel terry used a VM 4 cylinder (last used in the XJ cheep jerokee) and its shyte.
@@goosegarage78 no the Diesel Terry is actually a Jaguar/LandRover diesel V6 it was also featured
There was no 4cylnder optioned for the Terry
that would be cool eh
@@RossReviewsau the torque would be amazing
Wow saw one of these the other day and wondered about the eco boost badge, now I know
Glad I could help 🤙
I have a a 2012 Limited Edition G6 Ecoboost and I love her 💕
Very nice
I've had one for ten years now. Reliability from the engine has been solid. No issues at all but the inlet valves should be cleaned of carbon deposits.
Economy?! No. Power is power. If you lean on it it'll suck fuel.
Handling? Yeah, a little more balanced.
Hindsight I should have stuck with the Barra for two reasons:
The ZF is tuned to differently and isn't as seamless as it is with the Barra.
And secondly the smoothness of the Barra as well as its deeper burble.
They were the best handling Falcons , with the motor sitting behind the front axle.
drove really well
@@RossReviewsau underrated car, Ford had a piss poor marketing department, most people didn't even know this car existed.
The divide between this and a Barra is huge in terms of displacement... Hmmmm... An interesting if not ball tearing choice and I'm with you - what tuning potential does it have?
I averaged 8.8ltrs per 100km this morning in my VF SS LS3 roaring through the Adelaide hills... Obviously its more like 11.5 to 13 when city driving and launching hard for 100kms but the hill climbing is so effortless that going back down the hills end up bringing it right down to an average that beats 6's and some 4's and yet it's a 6.2ltr pushrod V8
Dude that's the most optimistic fuel economy claim in one of those I've ever heard. Driven a heap of LSs including the VF, from the 5.7 to the 6.2 I've never heard of nor seen that, nor have any mates that own them. 18 to 20Lp100 is the norm, and 11.5 around town- your trip computer is definitely on the fritz dude. Or you're running so lean your almost running on air. Sorry but just no way
@@Flying_GC I have a supercharged LS3 VE HSV and I get like 12-13L...but you're right it must be wrong cause my range in a full tank is 370km to 405km max, and I drive 50% highway to work, so how can I be 12-13L but I do drive rough so there is that too
@@Flying_GC where should I semd you the picture of it? Actually I just made it my profile picture just for you.
I don't lie and don't need to be optimistic.
It actually happened
Its not on the fritz at all! Ive had 9 V8s and it was normal for ls1s to average 12.5 for many drivers..
This was hill driving... i don't really care if you don't believe it but don't try and be an armchair diagnostic.
My car is perfectly fine and those numbers are what I got
And anyone that is getting 20ltr to the hundred in an ls anything has a dud engine! You talk about optimism but speak pessimism in the same comment
1st thing I would do, drop a Barra into it
🤣 love it
Why just buy one
😂😂😂
I thought is should be called the g4e
it should lol
Honestly never seen one of these in my life this is new to me
Glad I could teach you
Awesome vid👍ahead of its time, I reckon would sell well in today’s market, I would love have 2.0lt in Falcon ute n G6E interior. Yeah show pony but jokes aside nice cruise ute.
its a really nice cruiser.. great car (but i still love a barra)
Advantage was the weight distribution. It wasn't nose-heavy like the straight 6 or V8 Falcons.
Good point, the weight is really well balanced in this one.
Bigger intercooler and turbo n maybe slightly tune will give it a good doses of horsepower
I would pick one of these as a daily driver, just needs a dose pipe
gotta have a dose pipe lol
Just a few bits and pieces like an intercooler, intake ect and that 2.0L will fkn leave a non turbo falcon for dead IMO.. my parents had 1993 Fairmont 4.0L and I couldn't even get a wheel going.. maybe it had carbon buildup or something from being nannered for many years but it was so gutless. Jump in my 1.3L escort and pop a burnout anywhere just like my 1.6, 2.0 and 2.3L Corrina's, they were burnout machines lol
I'm putting a 2.3 eco boost into a 08 Ranger 4x2 ute it'll be a blast.
cool man! be interesting
8.8sec... try waking up the turbo first, see what happens
I had one of these on my Ps, heaps of fun for someone on their Ps
Great car
Noice Review Ross Reviews. Can you please bring out the Paddle Shifter SSV Redline in Melbourne next please.
To Ross Reviews
From Jordan’s car reviews
Coming soon
@@RossReviewsau thank you very much from Jordan’s car reviews
For outside like me, this basiclly an MK4 mondeo ecoboost without ford 6 speed wet clutch.
You should test the Fg ecolpi that are factory dedicated lpg. I find it drives better than the petrol fg.
Most of the Ecoboost Falcons were sold into the Ford executive fleet as they did not sell.and were sold off when Ford Australia shut up shop in Australia
yup ford employees bought most of them surprisingly
The fellow who owns that, keeps a really tidy car.
hes a legend.. very tidy car
if you want to modify one... its the mondeo/focus EB engine
The original ad on tv was quite funny, 2 cane toads mocking 4 cylinders lol
🤣 really I gotta look that up
falcon Body with 2.0. Do a Coyote Sway in that Falcon. 6 speed ZF Auto good gear box, may or may-not need to change Rear Diff. After Coyote sway put in cold air induction with catt back exhaust.
id love to see a Miami in one of these
@@RossReviewsau Then it's not an ECO BOOST car !
@@RossReviewsau i keep forgetting that Series 1 Coyote is called Miami in Australia.
Any chance of seeing a review of the transplanted XP’s? That would be epic
If I can find one I’ll test it out 😅
huh I never knew this existed, but it makes sense because the barra sucks down fuel!
The Barras are thirsty
Surprisingly nice car and pretty good performance for what it is Jon...but being a diehard Falcon nut as I am..Nup...just doesn't seem quite right ..Not shocked they didn't sell lots of them ...The ad for them that ended up being banned was great though... Ralphy , Ralphy , Oh Ralphy .....Cheers
So this engine was I the Lw-Lz focus st and the KFII ford kuga titanium (harder to find) so any focus st mods engine wise will work on this
possibly ;)
Yes Mate the old 2L Barra wannabe lol no just kidding,she's a perfect comfy cruiser Johnny & great on the fuel economy,my FG XR6 n/a is sitting at 11.6 ltrs per 100kms but I don't travel far so I don't know how much that would drop down if I did go on a long trip,I really enjoyed this review thanks bro.
First time I've seen one since they were announced. I didn't realise they actually sold any.
Not a lot 🤣
They also made a xr6 version of these i working for Ford at the time we were so confused why it was called a xr6
Are you sure about that? Or was that a prototype maybe
If only they had brought out a version with the focus RS donk in it. That would have been a different story.
Then chucked an xr body kit on it an had xr4 Turbos! That could have been sick!
now that would have been cool to see
It surprised me that Ford went for the 2.0L. Even if the 2.4L was detuned slightly, the bigger heavier Falcon would have been a real head turner. Love, love, love the Barra 6, but a hotter 4cyl turbo would have been magic.
These things were great, much better than the in-line 6. But people thought it was going to be Fords, Holden Starfire four cylinder again… They were wrong.
I always thought it was an absolute travesty we didn't get those cars in the USA instead of the crap fwd based Taurus based on the Volvo platform. If I could get even that "wimpy" 2L I would. I would think that some tuning, E85, shorter axle ratio and 0-60mph in the low 5s would be possible.
It was a travesty especially not receiving the Barra 🇦🇺🙄 Ford was very scared for its Mustang in the USA 🇺🇸
My 03 fairmont ghia 5.4 24v V8 uses between 6 and 7 liters per 100ks avg 9.4 🤔
Not bad
I would have found the 2 litre falcon as the replacement for the Cortina of 35 years earlier.
Oh gawd. Why am I getting Holden Starfire Four Commodare vibes here?
Fun fact. Ford allegedly detuned the gearbox shift times on these within months of release (remapped on first service) because......
Who wants to pay so much more for a na xr6 that gets (just) beaten from the lights by an XT ecoboost?
Sounds more like a not so fun fact. That's plain annoying and cheating.
I would take the NA Barra every day it just loafs along My BF Ute is just great I think but I prefer NA Engines cheers Mick.
Are the fuel savings worth it for slightly less power over the I6 version? I also heard these handle better.
I don’t think so.. but if you don’t care for the power it’s still a nice car
I have never heard of a 4 cylinder Falcon. Good review
Glad you learnt something
I would've bought one I have Ford Territory with the barra motor I love it the down fall am not happy with it is the 6 speed gearbox which Ford new about the problem but never did anything about.
Looks like a european spec ford cougar rearend
05 and ford mondeo mk4 frontend with slight modification on the headlights
Personal when these came out (just generalising) that category I put them in where 8 loud/expensive, 6 sweet spot/turbo fun, 4 good quite/cheap but gutless for anything practical.
i still agree with that haha
No matter what Ford or Holden did people wanted SUVs. They just didn't sell.
fair point
They should of sold them with the 2.7 territory diesel I feel that would of sold better than this back then but it definitely wouldn’t now
had one before called Monsta Toque about it & they said they won’t touch it
damn really! would love to see one done up
One has just come up for sale in Alice Springs in G6E guise.
Very nice cool cars for a daily
@@RossReviewsau ....I'm very tempted as my daughters first car. Just doing homework on the eco-boost engine's reliability record. Other than that, it looks neat. Anyway, second hand cars are a case by case basis.
@@RossReviewsau ....I'm very tempted as my daughters first car. Just doing homework on the eco-boost engine's reliability record. Other than that, it looks neat. Anyway, second hand cars are a case by case basis.
Should of had the turbo 5 in it
Never knew a 2.0L Falcon ever existed! I'm sure (I could be wrong) none made it to New Zealand.
I’m not sure if they made it to NZ 😅 pretty rare model
I don't mind the engine but long term reliability would be my main concern. Sure you can find them with high k's but most of them where rep mobiles doing high km's everyday vs an average use car and driving long km's everyday is often better for an engine than the average short trips. Do we know if the 2l ecoboost has any of the head gasket issues the 2.3l ecoboost had/has?
I didn't see the number plate at first but the moment you mentioned monsta torque I realized you was in WA. Good to see a local car chan on youtube.
WA channel here 🤙
Aussies have issue problems but a modern 4 cylinder with a turbo is going to have plenty of poke
Ford lost a wonderful opportunity in putting the 2:7 ltr diesel engine from the Ford Territory as the Territory was a falcon under the body shell. Would of been a great seller to the grey nomads towing Caravans etc.
Interesting eh!
Not gonna lie I'd love to see a done up Falcon as a G6E with this colour and those headlights 😍
That would be cool! its a good looking car
@@RossReviewsau Definitely is mate, kinda forgot about the G6e 2litre til you bought it up, your doing such a goo job with your videos as well Ross
It was a trial aimed at the market you discuss. Same motor has been in a few ford cars including the mustang. They were known to loose power over time but were good for what they were intended for. There is some aftermarket support in usa and europe for these. A small amount of the early ones in aussie had leaky head gaskets, but was fixed by new gasket deck the block and head and better quality head bolts. I think it’s hilarious to have one of these. I had one for a few months as a company/fleet vehicle. For the highway and country road driving i was doing it was fine.
Reviewers at the time reckoned they steer and handle better than the 6 due to less weight over the front. Do you mean downgrading to an Everest?
i didn't notice much difference but i wasn't pushing the car to hard.. (it didn't like to be)
I have a XR6 Ecolpi which has the Lux pack very cheap to run
Been looking for one of them