Pakistan Plane Crash | PIA Crash Reason |What exactly happened with ENGLISH SUBTITLES|Flying Captain
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 พ.ค. 2020
- IN THIS VIDEO: Pakistan Plane Crash, PIA Crash Reason, WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES
FULL DETAILS OF WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED TO PK PK8303 AND WHERE DID THE PILOTS MADE THE MISTAKE. IT WAS SERIES OF MISTAKES FOLLOWED ONE BY ONE. I HAVE TRIED TO EXPLAIN WITH THE EXPERT ADVICE OF SENIOR CHECK PILOTS. THANKS TO THEM FOR SHARING THEIR VALUABLE FEED.
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That's a very competent review Captain, I being a Pakistani extend sincere thanks to you and all the Indian brothers and sisters who showed their concerns over this tragic incident, may Allah Almighty keep you and everyone safe 🙏
Kasif...bhai...a very unfortunate accident on the occasion of eid.
We are with u brother in these painful times. Love from India.
Thanks Capt, for a professional and comprehensive analysis. Also for good wishes and Prayers.
Can you please explain why the undercarriage warning is blowing in their last call asking clearance to land? That's not matching with rest of the plot. Your comments Please! Thanks
@@arijit_majumdar16 ji bhai it has saddened the whole world, special thanks to the people of India who extended so much love n care, love you all bhai
@@simisk3210 Thanks for all the love n care stay blessed 🙏
I'm from India. My heart goes out to those who perished . My deepest condolences to all the bereaved families .May.God give them strength , hope and mercy in their unspeakable grief
Thanks
Thanks God bless you, I am from Pakistan
Thanx a lot
U r so very sweet
Love from Karachi, Pakistan.
Captain Arora, you deserve special appreciation for the way you have explained the situation, easily understandable for commoners. 👏👏
Thank you
I really appreciate your kind words for the humanity not for Pakistanis, this made me cry after your video
I am an Indian writing with tear
Because of his mistake innocents were killed.
Sir we are are human beings first and we are linked. we feel the pain............................. Indian, Muslim, Pakistani, Hindu, English Sikh, Parsi........ are all later.. You are a great soul!
halal animals themselves want to get slaughter because it is so free of pain when done with 'islamic' guidelines, main artery gets cut in the neck where blood carrying oxygen to the brain expels out and then the brain quickly becomes numb and it could no longer feel pain. I know this because I've seen it in their eyes. non-islamic way of doing it is ruthless.
@@omairbinenam6337 if it's not ruthless... can i do halal with you?
@Global Revolution sahi kaha, marne do kathmullo ko
@@dakshkkk1718 do you really want to do it?
This just cemented my initial theory of high altitude descent. There are instances where pilots become cocky and arrogant after years of flying and think that they can pull off stunts like these. All training does out the window. Co pilot is supposed to oppose the pilot under these circumstances, if he or she feels that SOPs are not being followed. Like the maker/checker concept. But unfortunately, sometimes Co pilots are young and inexperienced and are given a shut up call. The way this pilot was ignoring instructions from the CT was proof enough that he thought too much of himself. Only to realise his mistake after a failed attempt at landing. This airline needs discipline, strict action against pilots who don't follow SOPs, training to be conducted by external trainers, the rule book needs to be rewritten and pilots need to be on contract basis, instead of being full time employees of the airline, so that legal action can be taken against them in case of negligence. Captain, thank you for explaining in layman's terms what actually or possibly might have happened. Prayers for the deceased. Inna lillahe wa Inna illaihe rajeoun.
Faisal Imtiaz hope the families sue the airlines. Then maybe some discipline will come in. What an unnecessary tragedy.
a reckless pilot because of whom 100 other people died. Such pilots who think highly of themselves, who throw out all the SOPs and believe they can maneuver the aircraft at their will are just a disgrace to the pilot community. Even the ATC should be held responsible for allowing the aircraft to land when he knew that profile is too steep... but of course, Pakistan jaise chuttad cuntry mein sab chalta hai bhai......90 degree angle se bhi land karwate hain yeh log Allah se.....Gandu country
Exactly ,co-pilot wud not hv objected him, bcz of this senior junior thing.... The overconfidence of one person n fear (being junior) of co- pilot .... Took life of so many innocents. Even pepl sitting at ATC sud not allow high speed descend of aircraft. Pilots sometimes try to become stunt hero forgetting abt their responsibility of life of pepl they are carrying .
Just like the killing of the Black man in America by a knee to the neck. Younger cops unwilling to stop the "superior" from what he was doing. All 4 will see jail time.
@@michaelschmitt3421 what a good example!
Pilots and aircraft engineers have huge responsibility which has to be understood and followed. May Allah forgive the departed and protect all of the people. Ameen. 🌹
Ameen
Kashif Azam. A paid Pilot has only ONE huge responsibility and that is of training very hard and learning HOW TO SAVE HIS OWN LIFE and never to orphan his aircraft, as Miltary pilots often do with their ejector seats, while their burning aircraft falls and kills people on the ground. In this case of the PIA crash, while the aircraft was so extra high and then while crashing, the pilot did not say to himself. " I am responsible for the passengers, for the cargo, for the expensive aircraft, and for the people living below me!" What he did was to try and save HIS OWN LIFE with what he accumulated in his mental and physical capacity and it looks that he did not care less to crash and kill his passengers or any people on the ground did he? The pilot was somewhat too proud and cocky about his own abilities.
Please do not be fooled by pilots telling you that they are responsible for passengers, for cargo, for the expensive aircraft, and for people on the ground, above whom they normally fly without their permission! A pilot is just as responsible for SAVING HIS OWN LIFE when he is flying an empty private, military, and commercial plane.
Pilots preach their social responsibility and wear their gold-braided uniforms and high peaked hats as an EMOTIONAL, social, tribal, ritual, to try and increase and maximize their salary and try to project a higher aura and social value than they really carry. A paid pilot is only RESPONSIBLE TO SAVE HIS OWN LIFE, as with that philosophy everyone gains out of that simple tacit psychological trick. The pilot's salary is a negotiated amount contracted and bargained for the PILOT'S OWN LIFE and no more than that. Owners of PIA, Insurances, Mathematicians, and Engineers all know that Pilots are merely 90 % consumable wares whether they fly commercially or military. During the war and during commercial flights the production rate of aircraft and insurance premiums clearly shows that a PILOT IS TREATED AS CONSUMABLE GOODS, so one needs to blind him with a high salary and a gold-braided uniform and medals on his dead chest and a high social conspicuous aura. The psychology of recruiting pilots is so tacit and so subtle that even Mothers and Wives are so proud that their sons/daughters and husbands are pilots, continuously risking their lives in commercial aircraft and flying Miltary aircraft to go and kill the sons and husbands of other wives and mothers while they selfishly want their own sons and husband to come back home to them. Statistics do show that 65% of aircraft incidents are to pilot's mistakes who are not as sharp as they think they are! That is a normal human characteristic where everything that he is a little taller than he is with some professions thinking that they are much taller than they really are. We have to live with that and fool people in taking risky professions as in the Miltary.
The real responsibility exists with engineers and traffic controllers who see a wider picture than pilots do. The engineers look at aircraft merely as flying prosthetic aids for pilots, all born without natural wings. All aircraft are engineered PROSTHESES to help wingless pilots and passengers to enjoy their flying obsessions. The real continuous responsibility is with the engineer who builds the structure of the aircraft which is only a prosthetic aid wrapped around the pilots and passengers to help them fly. An engineer is responsible for every successful and every crashed flight that does not absorb the forces that kill the pilot, the passengers, and the people on the ground.
The salary of a pilot, his gold-braided uniform, conditions of work, his peaked hat to make him look taller than he actually is, and his social pampering drug, is all a negotiated agreement, contract for VALUING THE PILOT'S OWN LIFE.
Many times the pilot gains and does enjoy his salary and social status and sometimes the pilot die. It is all an agreed contract which the pilots are happy with. Any pilot can withdraw his contract at any time if he is not happy with those conditions. That is life.
A pilot is no more than a Matador or a Cowboy choosing to play a game in the ring with a wild bull, most of the times the Matador wins, sometimes the bull wins. It is no use being emotional about it..........That is a pilot's, a matador's, a cowboy's life choice, no one forces them to do it, but they like the excitement and if they do not agree with that contract of service........................they all can take any other job which is just as satisfying. All this is not written in a pilot's contract............. to fool him into taking the job both in the commercial and military flying arena. That is life! Many of us are fools and we do not know it. Being spectacular and looking tall in society has its benefits and its consequences and pilots, matadors, and cowboys are ready to live with that, it is their own choice and they know the conditions of service.
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I am from India and really very sad to hear about the crash. God give the strength to the families left behind.😔
A prifessional pilot...showing his great concern over pia crash....studued all the incident and furnished a complete detailed report. Thanks brother...this is called humanity hats off to u
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That looks like accurate explanation and analysis of what had happened. Very well put up. Again RIP departed souls.
Thank you for analogy.
Why oh why did ATC not strictly and forcibly ask pilot to turn around and decline landing availability.
ATC are also to blame in this tragic incident.
Yes
True
I have a lot of love and respect for my dear indian brother and sisters ,who are very sad and positive about our great loss.God bless you all.need such positive aproch both sides.🇵🇰🥰🇮🇳
Sir I am from Pakistan. Really appreciate your coverage about this mishap.
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Thank u so much sir I'm fully agree with u. And I like ur talking style u r so humble. Love from Pakistan🇵🇰. 💓🇮🇳🇵🇰💓
I'm also agreee with this humbal flying hero ,, salute hai inko mera
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@Ronald Joseph tu bhi chaatne aya hai kya
Ronald Joseph you have no version!
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I am from INDIA. This is very Tragic Tragedy. May God give Happiness and Peace to ALL Souls & also My deepest Condolences to ALL The bereaved Families. May God give them Strength , Hope and Mercy in their unspeakable & unforgettable grief.
Further, Nitish Sir, You have VERY NICELY explained. Thank You Sir.
Thank you very much sir for explaining so precisely. It was crystal clear that it was human error in PIA flight from Lahore to Karachi which crushed on Model Colony. It was so sad just before Eid so many people lost their lives.
May Allah give them Jannah and and give patients to their relatives and loved one.
Aameen.
Aameen
Best explanation soo far ! May Allah swt grant them highest place in janat . Soo many mistakes made by pilot but Karachi airport should never have authorised them to land the first time . Lessons must be learned .
Aameen
Best explanation..precisely what had happened...pilots blunder made this accident clearly..part of blunder goes on pia it self as for not enforcing to follow sop's
God Bless all those people who lost their lives. Very unfortunate accident. The ATC tried to inform the pilot on a couple of occasions. It seems evident that the pilot was doing something wrong. Very unfortunate.
@Apophis Rock apart from the explanation of why the landing gears were not deployed when the plane touched down everything else is on point..
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This is the official Prelim report from examination of FDR, CVR, ATC and approach and CCTV footage
From the prelim report: From the beginning the crew failed to use standard call outs and cross checks and did not follow SOP in terms of clean cockpit and flight deck comm. The aircraft was cleared to 3000ft at the final waypoint...but when reaching Makli waypoint they were over 9000ft and 245knots. “Karachi Approach” inquired “confirm track mile comfortable for descend” and later advised to take an orbit, so that the aircraft can be adjusted on the required descend profile. No orbit was executed and the effort to intercept the glide slope and localizer (of ILS) was continued. The FDR indicated action of lowering of the landing gear at 7221 ft at around 10.5 Nautical Miles from Runway 25L. “Karachi Approach” advised repeatedly (twice to discontinue the approach and once cautioned) about excessive height. Landing approach was not discontinued. However, FDR shows action of raising of the landing gears at 1740 ft followed by retraction of the speed brakes (at a distance slightly less than 05 nautical miles from the runway 25L). At this time, the aircraft had intercepted the localizer as well as the glide slope. Flaps 1 were selected at 243 knots IAS, the landing gears and speed brakes were retracted. Over-speed and EGPWS warnings were then triggered. Since the approach to land was continued, “Karachi Approach” instead of
changing over the aircraft to “Aerodrome Control”, sought telephonic landing clearance from the “Aerodrome Control”. The “Aerodrome Control” conveyed a landing clearance of the aircraft (without observing the abnormality that the landing gears were not extended) to “Karachi Approach”. Subsequently “Karachi Approach” cleared
the aircraft to land. At 500 ft, the FDR indicates: landing gear retracted, slat/flap configuration 3, airspeed 220 knots IAS, descent rate 2000 ft/min. According to the FDR and CVR recordings several warnings and alerts such as over-speed, landing gear not down and ground proximity alerts were disregarded. The landing was undertaken with
landing gears retracted. The aircraft touched the runway surface on its engines. Flight crew applied reverse engine power and initiated a braking action. Both engines scrubbed the runway at various locations causing damage to both of them. Figures hereunder show selected screenshots of security / CCTV cameras footages of the
aircraft engines touching the runway and showing sparks due to scrubbing, along with marks on the runway. The “Aerodrome Control” observed the scrubbing of engines with the runway but did not covey this abnormality to the aircraft. It was conveyed to the “Karachi Approach” on telephone. Subsequently “Karachi Approach” also did not relay this abnormality to the aircraft. The landing was discontinued and a go-around was executed. FDR recording
indicates a brief action of selection of landing gear lever to down position, which was immediately followed by its movement to up position. Intention to undertake another ILS approach for landing on runway 25L was conveyed, however shortly after the go-around both engines failed one by one. Ram Air Turbine (RAT) was deployed to
power the essential systems. FDR data recording stopped during this timeframe (as per the designed limitation). The aircraft was unable to maintain required height. The aircrew declared the emergency situation that both engines were lost, and transmitted a “Mayday Call”. Evidences from the wreckage indicate reasons for right engine
failure, however left engine requires further examination, and landing gear in extended position did not demonstrate any malfunction of the landing gear system. The aircraft crashed about 1340 meters short from runway 25L. It was a slow speed impact with high angle of attack, with aircraft configuration indicating landing gear extended, slats at step / position 1, and flaps retracted. The said configuration was ascertained and documented from the wreckage at the crash site (as the FDR data recording had stopped earlier).
Sir, if we hear the ATC recording, there is a warning sound that can be heard. It may be possible that when they were descending from 3500 feet, the speed of the plane was more than 260 knots. A320 has an inbuilt programming, that even though you have your levers down, at that speed the landing gears do not extend to prevent structural damage to the landing gear systems. It could be that the pilots thought they have the gears down, but in reality they weren't. It was only when the scraped the engine, they realised it. And the rest is what happened.
Your views please.
Agreed 💯, landing gear was not on at the time of first landing. The alarm signals (tong tong) can be heard before first landing. I am asking captain to explain this.
A captain will not attempt landing without the three green landing lights. (Which indicate that the gears have fully extended and locked).
@@arnavkumar3060 They probably were overwhelmed with the task of getting it the plane down from that altitude. In the recordings, there is no communication that they were coming in for a belly landing.
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Above video should help.
@@arnavkumar3060 If they knew were landing without landing gear they would surely declare an emergency, which they didn't.
I feel sorry for the passengers now.
Aircraft in nose upward position was stalled position. ... one of cctv footage shows during last two seconds aircraft fall like stone from sky.... landing speed was much more @220 knot, to lower carriages aircraft should not go beyond certain speed limit.... you are right SOPs are most important factor in airline industry. ..
The aircraft would enter alpha floor protection and try to maintain altitude..hence the attitude
Probably the landing gear was selected down but did not deploy due to the high speed. Then as they started the go around and the engines started to fail the speed dropped below VLO and so at the worst possible time the gear dropped and added a huge amount of drag.
I am myself airline pilot , Fantastic explanation. No SOP followed by the crew, CRM was missing First Officer did blunder.
Thank you sir
Sir let me pls know from which source u got that he retracted landing gear early and , and landing gear is normally functioning
This is one of the best analysis 👍 love from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Global Revolution دنیا میں آج تک جو ہزاروں حادثے ہوچکے ہیں ان میں کتنے روزے کی وجہ سے ہوے تھے. خدا کا خوف کریں.
in long spam of the Lockdown, the pilots would go through a Recall of SOPs or a Training, Once again very well explained Video by our Dear Capt. Arora
Nice explanation thanks.
Why there was alarm signals (tong tong) before first time landing?Can you please explain.
Dear sir, excellent review irrespective of boundary divisions masha allah tabrakallah thanks for this review which will sure be reviewed by all aviation team and general public in understanding the procedures if had listened by atc , could hve avoided this mishap......god bless you n ur family too and rest in peace to all have passed away..
What a heartfelt analysis captain. Respects from Dubai🙏
Captain; I myself am a Naval Aviator and catapulting 18s for more than a decade, I believe your analysis is a reflection of what might’ve actually happened; keeping in view the evidence available so far. You’re right on the mark; unmanageable approach, and untimely retraction of landing gear. This should be a lesson for the CAA, not to let these birds land if they are not following the SoPs.
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A plane crash at the corona time for any country is a biggest tragedy. Deep condolences of tears from India. Let the departed Mayday souls live in peace.
Sir , if I learn how to fly a plane from games like flight simulator X , can it is useful for me during my cpl and typerating because I already knows that how to fly that aircraft. Can it effect the duration of tranning.
Lots of love n respect for you captain from Pakistan. God blessless you! ❤️
God Bless The Departed Soul..May There Souls Rest in Peace..My Heart is Really Crying..Love from India & God Bless Strength to the Families who have Lost there Loved Ones..
Explained very well
Praying for departed souls
Stay Blessed ❤
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aap pehle aadmi hain jis ne sahi tafsel se is crash ko discraib kiya aur insaniyat ke nate bhoot achi baat kahi i selut to you
Sir it’s been in news that landing gear didn’t open only when they we doing there 1st landing ,from which source u r saying that he retracted landing gear early .
Thank you for your kind words dear brother, it definitely is very tragic. We are very sad here in Pakistan even on eid due to this unfortunate event
Can u say this sampathy for who killed in terrorist ,Jehadi attack . Non muslim people in pakistan, bangladesh, afganistan.
Very Brief review i am living in Karachi and wish everyone safe around the globe
Salam and Kolkata, India. Eid Mubarak to you bro and my heart goes to the sufferers and kya beet rahi hogi unlogo pe jo Eid ke waqt laut rahe the. Really we in India can feel it. May Allah give sabr to the families and we are with you bro.
Same to you bro
What do you mean by very brief? I thought it was very concise. What else do you want him to do? Dram pictures for you? Smh😐
very nice .
I am no expert but i want to ask if they were hitting with the ground was there any possibility they could still manage ti land rather than going round
Capt. I salute you for your excellent and close to the real scenario explanation , but more for the empathy and words like *jannat nasheen hon* , hatts off
Thanks Captain Arora. Your explanation is very good and sounds almost perfect and flawless. Hopefully, we will get to know more when official investigation report comes out.
Captain Sir you explained really well. He was flying on this route for the past 5 days. He was one of the best pilots of company. It was the worst mistake
It means plane has no issue technically, it was pilot fault that he didnt follows the sop ...
Landing gear neeche karne mein koyi issue nahin tha kya?
No
100 persent agree
Thats the happen. Its to late for ever.
Even if there was issue with landing gear, pilots cannot ignore loud tcas warnings in the cockpit that tells you to go around anyways.
Complete pilot error. The plane was perfect
Captain! You're right, all data available tends toward multiple SOP violations.
Capt. How much are the chances that the plane will successfully land on belly?
THE aircraft can be landed on the belly when the speed and Altitude is properly managed, Its not an easy thing engines may catch fire.
Hi Rohan,
This is not a scenario of belly land. The belly along with engines touched/sctrached accidently when engines were on TOGA. Reasons not known yet.
Here is my Simulation of Final flight path. 👇
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Regards,
Depends on the speed of the plane if u glide the plane then it would be more safer
Rohan Belly landing is done all the time if ground rescue team is ready and the pilot has emptied the fuel tank and is a skilled pilot.
Thanks Captain for the detailed analysis. It's clear now that it was not belly landing but accidentally scratching of the engines. Clearly, it appears to be fault of the pilots
Fantastic explanation
Thank you
Nice information sir
Thank you
Have a question: how do we know the landing gear were down on the initial approach ? Form what I've seen elsewhere the landing gear may not have come down. Also, due to the high-speed of the fast decent the aircraft's speed was above the third and fully extend flaps notch which would not allow the flaps to be fully extended.
Otherwise, your video provides the simplest explaination for the events of the PIA plane crash. But it is hard to believe the second in command in the cockpit would allow the captain to handle a commercial aircraft that way ! Could it be possible the cockpit crew were flying with altered brains, due to some chemical or latent effect from low pressure at altitude ? To me it just seems far too many mistakes were made !!!
It's always chain events in this kind of situation
very well explained. each mistake, each step. sad, in such time losing people & aircraft.
very good information
Very well explained, not only passengers but the pilots and the crew also lost their lives. May they rest in peace.Thank you for making it simple for general population.
If the landing were not retracted, i guessed the story is different... So sad
Yes until the flight is on the air, the LG should not have been retracted due to this error the engines scrapped the ground causing it to malfunction.
Once one of the engines hit,he should have tried to land,and not try touch and go.
well explanation for this tragedy. I suggestion all pilot who works in this field shouldn't repeat this blunder.
Yes
ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਸਮਝਦਾਰ ਪਾਇਲਟ ਜੋ ਕਿ ਦੁਨੀਆਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ ਮਾੜਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਕਹਿੰਦੇ ਪਰ ਇੰਨੀਆਂ ਗਲਤੀਆਂ ਇਕ ਬਹੁਤ ਹੀ ਤਜਰਬੇਕਾਰ ਪਾਇਲਟ ਲਗਦੇ ਪਾਇਲਟ ਦੀ ਮਾਨਸਿਕ ਸਥਿਤੀ ਠੀਕ ਨਹੀਂ ਸੀ ਇੰਨੀਆਂ ਗਲਤੀਆਂ ਵੈਡਿੰਗ ਸਮੇਂ ਹੋਈਆਂ ਮੇਰੇ ਖਿਆਲ ਹਰ ਪਾਇਲਟ ਦੀ ਮਾਨੋਚਿਕਸਤ ਹਰ ਪਾਇਲਟ ਦੀ ਮਾਨਸਿਕ ਸਥਿਤੀ ਠੀਕ ਸਮਝੀ ਜਾ ਸਕਦੀ ਹੈ ਸੁਧਾਰੀ ਜਾ ਸਕਦੀ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਕਿ ਬੇਕਸੂਰ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਦੀ ਜਿੰਦਗੀ ਬਚਾਈ ਜਾ ਸਕੇ ਜੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ
Ki kariye hun kujh nahi kar sakde. Thanwaad
We do understand pilot jobs are not easy. But this is the real example if they don't learn in this kind of situation. God bless you sir.
Harsh reality is that its total pilot's error causes 97 people to died including all crew members,how such mistake was happened in a clear wheather conditions
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But in the cockpit recording on first approach a chime can be heard going off that sounds like gears were never lowered even on the first attempt to land...
The warning for the gear was over speed so it wouldn’t lower, not that they fo4got to lower....they were way way way too high on approach....NOT stabilised......idiots!
This cannot be heard as so far the CVR has not yet been recovered nor analyzed unless you are hearing it their the ATC recording ! 🤓🧐
dave denham Well at the end they have likely forgot to deal with it (the LG).
The FDR will reveal all the secrets ,
At this point, how does anyone know whether or not the landing gear were ever down during the initial descent/approach and touch down on the engines? ???? I have my doubts. Have the black boxes provided that answer? Haven't seen it published anywhere.
Modern planes are computerized and equipped with systems that can detect if the plane is configured for landing and the gear isn't down. In this case if the landing gear wasn't down, the cockpit would have had multiple warnings, which are impossible to ignore. Hence, there is no possibility that the gear had failed or was not down properly. The pilots have made a series of errors in this case.
Landing gear fail kya kya issue tha ??as in other reports
This is the actual reason....many ppl are saying landing gears didn’t work . It was first officers mistake
Because the plane was in the wrong profile the landing gears were not allowed by system
Was the gear down during the first attempt?
There Is Also Electronic SAFETY Feature In Airbus A320 If Speed Is Over 260 KNTS Landing Gear Will Never Open 👍
I think gear is working properly because in second attempt gear is down so there is no malfunctioning. No gear didn't down in first attempt because altitude and air speed both are high do to wich aircraft didn't allow to lower gear to protect aircraft.
@@meet2891 Pilot/first officer didnt deploy landing gear or landing gear didn't deploy because of overspeed. Because if speed is more than 260, landing gears don't deploy. They were coming from too high and too fast. Just before 1st touchdown, when captain says "Roger pakistan 8303" ,you can hear 3 ding ding ding alaram sounds which means landing gear not deployed. Immediately after that next conversation was about going around. So captain doomed the flight. Complete pilot error
Sir if the pilots thought that they were on correct ILS approach didn't they see the papi lights for reference?
Thats the whole point. They were never on the Glide slope
They captured False ILS and they still continued continued on approach
Even though they did capture false ILS and ignored ATC instructions didn't they see the lights?
@@santriptaswain6578 and what sir is a false ILS. Plz elaborate.
The approach plate clearly tells you the height from TDP. Even if we presume that their nav equipment was malfunctioning, pilots are supposed to counter check, visibility good, dme working its simple maths
I, being Pakistani citizen, thank you for such a valuable analysis.
But above all is my respect to you for the sorrow I felt in your heart.
May these feelings be developed for all each others.
Sir I have a question .. what was the problem with landing gear on the 1st attempt?
We're taught that at 1000' you should be on glideslope with a stabilized approach. If not go around. It should of never occurred and ended in a tragic loss of life. As you stated, SOP wasn't followed, it's in the POH and or FOM to avoid tragedies such as this. Just sad.
Yes
French team is here to investigate nd hs extended its visit.see wt their findings come out,nothing can be hided now
What's the use now !
The use is that this should not happen again
maut se darr lagna chahye her kissi ko, sensitivity hoti hai sab mai.. pak pilot ki awaz mein darr nah hona bhi aik tajub ki baat hai.. koi fakhar ki baat nahi.
@one world It's not about honoring nor shaming the deceased pilots, but in a lesson on proper procedure and CRM for the other pilots to avoid getting into the same situation.
@@freeslaveofallah7053 yes, that's surprising !
Sb question eak taraf mara eak question an logo k liya hn jo ya khaty ky pilot ki mistakes ki waja sy plane crash howa question ya hy k agr plane ma koi kharabi hi nhi thi to pilot ny plane ko airport sy 25 mint paly or takariban 8,9 kilometers dor jinnah international airport ma land karna tha?? Ap ky jawb ka antazar rahy ga
Landed gear never b opened but at the time take off again on first attempt y pilot UP landed gear which never b down? Kindly clear that contradicts statement in ur video..thanks
Number 1 fault was the take off after belly landing. 2nd fault was engaging landing gears when engines were out.. 3 rd mistake i cannot figure out but maybe they should have chosen alternate landing site for crash landing after engines went out..
Yeah I was thinking about that why did takeoff after belly landing ?? I was thinking like that maybe they can save some people !!
@@viorelgherasim7599 may be already plane set for takeoff.
@@viorelgherasim7599 It was a panic response. They were coming in expecting to land on wheels. Remember, the pilots nowhere have mentioned they were going to do a belly landing, no fuel dumping, no request to prepare runway, etc.
@Apophis Rock Engaging landing gears increases drag. They would have flown some more distance, if it hadn't been lowered.
@Apophis Rock I am no expert but my 2nd scenario was based on the fact that just before the crash landing gears were down and the plane fell before reaching the runway. Had the landing gear been up it might have made it to the runway.
Yar ye banda pain lay rha, ALLAH pak iski hifzat kray AMEEN
Huh...ALLAH Pak decided to have a tea break when the unsuspecting people in the cabin really needed her help.
Why is that the ALLAH never helps; people die a brutal death...and you guys keep asking for her help.
Unbelievable!
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@@fahadfaisal7855 lol .... because Allah, jesus, and any god cannot come to intervene human stupidity....
Flying captain please tell me after making 4 mistakes you mentioned when they didn't able to make it to 3000 feet on up leg as it is clear engine have some power before dying were they not suppose to make a tear drop and land it on tail wind of runway?
Or was it over after making a mislanding attempt?
Capt. I ask one question Capt talked to tower aircraft system give the beeping what is the meaning plz tell me from Karachi Pakistan
If the engine had a problem not working properly than it would beep sound on 3 time
The undercarriage takes 8 seconds to retract. That’s 3000 ft of runway at over 200 kts. The flight profile shows that the undercarriage’s being down on the first approach is highly unlikely.
Far more likely is that tunnel vision and startle led to the undercarriage’s being missed and warnings of low height rather than undercarriage up (look up warning logic) being shut out.
A PIA official has confirmed that the landing gear was neither fully nor partially deployed during the first landing attempt
A very interesting perspective. However I feel you made an error in that the first mistake was being late on his let-down. According to the remote data, he'd been descending VERY steeply to try and intercept the ILS. That, of course, meant he was carrying a great excess of speed. Meaning his gear wouldn't extend (hence the chimes) with the tragic results we know. I believe the pilot knew he was in trouble but for some unknowable reason chose to continue.
Personally, I think some blame for this should be placed at ATC's door. The controller clearly knew the flight was off profile, otherwise he wouldn't have ordered the turn to 180. Why on earth didn't he revoke the landing permission? That one act could have saved all those poor people!
My deepest condolences go to all the families of the victims of this tragedy.
No, landing gear has to deploy unless there is a mechanical failure. I don't think there was a mechanical malfunction.
@@johnnyj2066 Airbus 320 manual - speed greater than 260 knots, landing gear won't deploy. A safety valve isolates the landing gear hydraulic lines from supply pressure when the aircraft speed is greater than 260 knots.
S208 Richard so why would a pilot continue to land knowing his landing gear is not down?
@@imana4838 Exactly! The pilot must have tried to deploy the landing gear at least at 1000m altitude. If warning sounds are heard about the failure to deploy landing gear, why would he continue to land? He could have initiated a go around immediately.
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I again cried. Thanks for explaining
You really have a soft heart Nancy may Allah bless you
@@TheShareekhan thanks this incident is haunting me all time for pilot courage
Please take care
@@Nancy-mv2mf don't worry we all are praying for the safety of everyone regardless of the boundaries as our hearts are one.
The the pilots lied about that they had issues with landing gear.
Yes and someone sitting in a drawing room knows the best. Lol
No you are both wrong, he said that "after" first attempted landing, after slamming the landing gear on first attempt it likely had damaged and had difficulty extending and then it worked. He had very short time after first attempt so he reported the anomaly.
I have analyzed C17 landing gears, there are many ways you can cause anomalies.
@@technologyandinnovation4586 I've only heard partial ATC coms on this. At what stage did the pilot inform the ATC that he had a gear problem? I was not convinced the gear had been deployed at all. The marks on the runway suggest two incidents of engine pod strike. The high speed in the descent was above the max speed that the A320 will allow the gear to be deployed. Above 260kts you can pull the lever, but the computer will not initiate the hydraulics because at those speeds lowering the landing gear can cause damage. They were also still above speed crossing the threshold, which poses another problem, that instead of getting an automatic reminder about gear deployment at 750 AGL, the system will instead give a warning "too low Terrain" . It warns "too low, gear" depending on flap position and IAS being below 190kts.
If the gear was down initially, and they selected to retract it, I don't think there was time for the gear doors to be closed before contacting the runway, and from what limited photos and video I've seen of the runway afterwards, there didn't seem to be part of the landing gear doors strewn about, just a set of scrape marks indicating more than one incident of pod strike and scrape down the runway.
The Pilots repeatedly said they are comfortable... where did you get this information from?
Yes, if their landing gears were compromised, then how come landing gears were down at the time of the crash. Check the crash video once again to confirm.
Thanks sir Dil s Dua h k aisa incident kbi kisi k sath pesh na aay every country is dearest AP ki investigation sun KR bohat respect barh gyi h Dil m for India ....I'm from Pakistan...
Thank you
I have a question Captain, when aircraft came in visual contact with the tower, why tower did not see that tires are not OUT AND LOCKED? Wasn't that the duty of tower to have notified the pilot about the CHECK TIRES ARE OUT AND LOCKED caution?
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I didn't get how after belly landing at the first place they had been able to rectract the landing gear? Since it wasn't even open, therefore they did the belly landing, weren't they?
Since captain estimated that landing was not possible just few feet above the ground, first officer by mistake pulled back landing gears with flaps. And thus resulted in belly landing which was not intended. See this video again m
If they had decided not to go around and land in first attempt anyhow, they could save more lives.
@@EternalVoice11 agreed
I thought landing gear was not deployed therefore that is why they struck the runway?
In the aircraft gear manual it's mention that if altitude and air speed is high then aircraft didn't allow to lower the gear to protect aircraft. In 1st attempt altitude is high and speed also so it didn't go down while in 2nd attempt gear was down so there is no malfunctioning. Gear was working perfectly it didn't deployed in first attempt because pilot didn't follow his landing procedure.
Capt Arora your professional analysis is very simple to understand about PIA flight PK8303 crashed. Thank you for great work for families of the passengers and crews who lost their life in this crash and for the Pakistani nation. May ALLAH Grant highest place in Junna to all the passengers and crews who died in the Holy Ramadan month. Ameen
i am a Pakistani. You did a very good analysis. well done. love from Pakistan.
We dnt knw wat they were goin through, its not easy take decision at a time wen ur life is in danger. I think they were freezed.. may their souls rest in peace.
Absolutely right...we r not in in any position to judge
They were not flying 1st time and with out training to freez they were experienced. Here they got too much comfortable overconfident and forgot the necessary.
TH-cam daily said precisely.... they are not new comers to freeze .. pilots have to understand instructions given by atc are not casual instructions. They can only help and know about flight situations.
Pilots are not like everyone else. They are highly trained to react with SOPs during an emergency and not to panic. The emergencies, according to this video, were all of their own making, even from the start.
Since the pilots are no more in this world
We cant even imagine how they could've been feeling
when they knew they were going to die
So i guess all we must and could do is just pray from them and the rest of the people
May allah grant them highest plane in jannah...aameen
Aameen. Couldn't even imagine what they went through
Nice video
Thank you
I think this guy has explained the entire episode of the crash in the best logical manner!
Finally pilot loss situation in last movement His mind in two way landing or goes around
Really pilot was doing mistakes more than enough I think looks like his death was coming accept two humans....
Pakistani pilot ne "standard operating procedure" ko silently advertise aur promote kera hai. deliberately done or not, that is another side of the coin.
What about if they have forgotten to lower the landing gears in first attempt as there is continuous beep in the radio transmission of copilot. If it is not of landing gears then what could it be? In my opinion they forgot to lower the gears because they were too much engrossed in intercepting the glide path or ILS. I m a pilot and u can explain in aviation language as well. Thanks
I'm from Pakistan and finally found the very first logical analysis video... Thanks, Captain
Thank you
Your analysis appears spot on... And my heart goes out to all who lost precious lives
Thank you
Landing gear never showed up ! Litsen to the recording again and you will hear distress noise in backfround from cockpit
Pilots macho attitude didn't help that day.
Yep they were macho, no doubt : (
Sir i am Pakistani 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰. You are the Only person who gave this logical and step by step explanation of this sad situation. You were empathetic and i thank you. 🙏🏼 Any Pakistani reading this. Please avoid PIA for all domestic and international flights. Also other Pakistani airlines for domestic travel within Pakistan. Use railways or bus. Please save your selves. Life and Death is in Gods hands i know but we have to be careful aswell. This crash makes me sick to my stomach. Also please share this video as much as possible so the truth can come out.
One of the finest explaining by Nitish Sir PK-8303 AP-BLD may Allah bless everyone YOUR PAIN IS OUR PAIN 🇵🇰🇮🇳
I live close to this tragedy site and its all clear, it was at least 110 % pilot fault who made at least10 unimaginable blunders
To crash the safest aircraft.with out any reason. He had just got mad because there is no professionalism in the PIA. If there was even 10 % sense of responsibility, he would have approached to land like all other airline pilots following SOPs & procedures. He was coming so high and fast that it was not possible to land and when ATC asked him to control these or go around, he arrogantly said “I m comfortable” and without opening the gear bumped the plane into runway and knocked out the engines. And still when he was guided by the ATC to reach 3000, he said same thing without knowing that he was without the engines and even he could have avoided the populated area if he had got slightly right in the open area of cantt leading to right runway. Just shocking blunder after blunder till the last ie he had dumped the plane and 97 people due to his stupidities but also dumped the sleeping rozadars on ground. He should be charged for murder of all the people, property and the sentiments of billions of people rather than any cover up if we want to avoid such things in future.
If the aircraft had tail engine like DC 10 have, everyone would have sevived.
@Too Sense Wirth hahah so true...no machine can be made for reckless and arrogant pilot like of this airline.
That plane will turn to autopilot seeing the landing altitude.
Very good analysis of what happened with tragic PIA flight 8303. Thanks Captain Nitish for the empathy.
Nice info
Thank you