That was literally the reason I didn't like the show. The horrid overuse of fake handheld shakeycam crap in particular made it so that I never watched enough to even care about anything in it, and really all I remember is a fat nerd, Begbie, a bland commander and the horrible camerawork. (It doesn't need to shake like its the opening of Saving Private Ryan when people are just having a discussion). With the story and characters I had the same problem with Atlantis in that it was all a bit generic and bland, but that show had two things Destiny didn't. Cinematography that didn't give me a migraine and David Hewlett. So watching that show was at least amusing due to the latter. But of course, to each their own. edit: Just to add one thing, while I didn't really care for the BSG reboot, I didn't actively hate it the way I did Destiny. Perhaps because it was a reboot and not a new part of the existing story that looked radically different. Also it didn't give me literal headaches like Destiny did (and I play flight games that can literally make people puke from motion sickness, so this is really saying something) and from what I have seen in clips, looks to be made with 100x more ability in the technical aspects of making a show.
Funny, I had the opposite feeling because of that similarity. I really didn't like BG but not for want of trying. I should have known it wouldn't be a show for me once I realized the Starbuck character had been revised as female.
It would be cool if the already passed the signal and realize it's getting stronger. To find out the universe is a expanding ring and they have made it back to earth but back in time. Realizing the original ancients we're humans on the ship causing perpetual loop.
@@krane15 I wanted to like the BSG reboot. The gender swap of one out of an ensemble crew didn't matter to me anymore than the exact same thing did with Space Battleship Yamato 2199. Times when I abhor this stuff is like what the Jurassic Park movie did with switching the kids around. A lot of it has to do with the percentage of stuff changed.... the same is true in so many other instances of _anything_ being switched around in reboots and the like. I do admit that these days, random genderswaps are a giant red caution flag. That said I will give things a chance. Some of it when done well like with Space Battleship Yamato 2199 & 2202, work well (and tbh for that show it did help mix up the crew a bit more compared to the old stuff, which was a product of its time) I had really heard from people who knew what I liked in sci-fi that BSG would be right up my alley. And even today when I will see some clips from its action scenes and whatnot, then go "you know it does look nice..." I have to remind myself that (so far) I have tried 3 times to watch the show and given up on it within 5 hours of viewing. I really don't know what it is about the show, but I just can't be bothered to care about any of it within a decent timeframe. (My general philosophy here is similar to books, where after the first 3 or so chapters, if I am not invested in the story, I stop reading. Since I know everytime I haven't, by the end it feels more like work than a relaxing activity.) I actually regret watching all 7 seasons of Voyager. I should have stopped halfway through the first season at most. Only reason I persevered was because it remained the only ST stuff I had not seen. That show was a giant waste of my time, though by the 4th or 5th season it was more like background noise I was kinda paying attention to. That was how little the show, from a franchise I adore, managed to get me invested. Maybe one of these days I will end up find a reason to like BSG enough to keep me interested.... maybe not..... its weird like that. It wouldn't be the first time it took several attempts before I watched a full show. addendum: as for things I find as flawed from a technical standpoint, like the camera in Destiny.... if the story or characters or actors can hook me, the technical parts matter far far far less. Its like when you have a game with a good story and bad gameplay, if the story is good enough the gameplay matters little, vice-versa as well. Though it takes something special with the technical side of things to make me ignore other issues with shows and movies. For instance I will watch anything that approaches the animation quality of Fantasia or The Wings of Honneamise, I don't care what it is, since I love animation as a whole. A ton of remarkable CGI or awesome practical effects would fit that bill for live action. Take the original Gone in 60 Seconds. Nothing about that movie matters, except that the entire 2nd half of the movie is one extremely awesome car chase.
2:33 Technically, Destiny's interface chair doesn't require an ancient activation gene, since the ship predates that type of technology as stated in the show.
It shouldn't even have a chair. These are issues that always crop up when making sci-fi movies and TV shows since its impossible to predict how well they will catch on. Even most of the shows are independent and don't follow the same time line.
They had to of started somewhere.. makes more sense they started with Destiny's type chair and upgraded it throughout time, until they got to atlantis's advancements
@@DrewLSsix Because the timeline is too great. Every generation build on the one before. Just look how far mankind has come in the last century. Besides, when it come to millions of years we're talking about entirely different species. That's why its absurd.
Another thing you could say is a feature of the Destiny is the vertically-moving bridge, allowing those at the helm to raise or lower the bridge if needed for extra safety or extra visibility. Also the cryo pods too. Repair robots, if you count the comic. And a sidenote, the control chair doesn't require the ATA gene because it's the older model, and it's left vague as to how one uses the chair to control anything. Rush uses it to find the bridge code, Chloe uses it because of her condition at some point, and the other guy gets his mind messed up the first time and then vanishes the next time. It can connect with people inside the ship's AI system, though, which is interesting and pretty dangerous. I just don't remember anyone using it to directly control anything outside the dream world it puts people in.
I loved this show the most of the three. I'm probably a tiny minority in that I was hooked right from the start, nothing bothered me about the "drama". It's my fav sci fi programme to date, and the destiny? In my view it's the coolest ship in sci fi.
Destiny ship is the best looking and really has the galactica vibes, But the best ship for anything is Daedalus no question askedy the ship just goes in overwhelmed with disatvantage 12 hive ships, at least 36 cruisers as support craft to one new built battle cruiser and stands its ground for a pretty fair amount of time, even taking out some of the enemy ships, before escaping. Daedalus is just unkillable ship
@@honzasenbauer612 the deadalus without a zpm would be destroyed in two shots by an ori mothership and it takes about five beam weapon shot to take out an ori vessel. And an ancient war ship would make short work of her too using drones. I love the deadalus class, shes my fav human sci fi ship, destiny is just.....so much more.
@@nihilityjoey yep, agreed. The ship has its charm. Rusty, faulty, but sturdy as hell and if you want something, you make it. Plus the design reminds me of Steampunk so much and it fits the ship perfectly. So many mechanical parts, that you can repair or build from scratch on the ship, you don't need specific machines to build circuits or something like that.
@@suit1337 actually, I am old enough to remember only having the option of a party line for home phone service, and made some of the first bag phones that were mass produced.
The shields also "protected/negated" time dilation effects - so observable time of FTL and still frames were the same. How shields could do that for all the time frames of references of the entire universe is a mystery to me. But hey - it's science fiction!! :)
I think the ancients doesn't forget about Destiny. But when they ascended, they don't need her anymore. They got all the answers Destiny should find in the cosmic background radiation.
Yes finally my favorite ship of the series. I knew Destiny was millions of years old but I didn't know it was that old. Makes you wonder if the Ancients could build something that durable, when they were a young race, how could they loose at all to the Wraith.
Well they did not loose per se. They just got fed up of fighting a near never ending battle. Think of usa in afghanistan. America techincally can win its just not worth it morally or in lives necessary. I guess if acension was not an option or retreat to earth was not available they would have used their superweapons such as what janus was developpong and would have ended the wraith
After all even millenia later the wraith could not break through the sheilds of atlantis even with limited power and ancient drones can wipe out wraith ships even in far superior number. Just for sake of story budget the tuari keep kamakasing them.
@@drrohanjacob Have you ever seen a battle between wasps and an ant colony? Ants don't win battles by strategy, they do so by sheer number overwhelming its aggresor. Remember, the Wraith operate as a colony, with a queen in charge.
You pointed out just one of many limitations in writing -- how far do you go back? In this case, the Ancients didn't lose, rather, they abandoned the battle once they figured out how to ascend. At that point, the fight with the Wraith was no longer of any consequence.
@@krane15 Oh i agree that the wraith used their numbers to overwhelm but only by using a cloning facility that needed zpm to power Also regaudless of their number they were still unable to breech the sheild of atlantis as long as it had zpm to power it which the ancients had no problem building. So yes even without ascension the ancients could fight the wraith to stalemate at worse and win a pyrhhic victory at best.
Destiny also had repair robots on board. While we only see one in a crate they do talk about using it to repair the engines. In future scripts they were suppose to find others still working in other parts of the ships, cannibalizing parts to keep systems going as they ran out of raw materials.
I never liked the theory that the Ancients "forgot" or "abandoned" the Destiny. With 60 million years and their brainpower, I believe we are ignoring an equally possible option, they "succeeded" the Destiny. I like to think the secret message was the instructions to ascension. They cracked the signal and that's how they knew what it is and how to do it. Maybe it was left by a higher power, or earlier more advanced race, who knows...but possible.
@@anulire i'm not so certain we can say they didn't. it's never actually said one way or another in the shows, books, or comics. so while all is possible, i think we have enough from the shows themselves to actually suggest the opposite. why? 1) the lanteans still have the 9th chevron in their database for usage. this wasn't an alteran database but a lantean database that was separated from the destiny and it's mission by 60 million years. what's interesting is that not only do they still have it, but it was in the system almost as if were a secret in plain sight. with no references, explanations, or instructions....but there for all to see and use at some point for those who knew what it is, and what it's for. 2) the icarus planets were using tech that came long after the building of the destiny and it's launch. why were they still building these new massive planet level techs to reach the destiny or at least have access to the destiny if they abandoned or forgot it. 3) this is not canon (or at least i don't think it is) but in the comics, eli discovers ancients in stasis. now we don't find out exactly who they are. but, we know that the most advanced stasis tech on atlantis can only sustain a person for a few thousand years with optimum power. so either, the destiny stasis tech is superior to atlantis' tech (which i doubt)...or...those ancients on the destiny are a newer crew and only a few thousands of years old. which would suggest the ancients were still sending crews to the destiny and recently. or at least within a time frame that works with the lanteans. 4) why do i think they cracked the code, and it was instructions for ascension, or this is at least a possibility? we learn from rush that the reason the destiny was sent into the darkness, was because the ancients knew that whatever was in the message was going to transform them like nothing before. that's why they invested so much effort in the project. now from the launch of the destiny to the collapse of the lanteans (60 million years of tech, exploration, inter-galactic dominance) the most transformational thing to happen was ascension. how exactly did a people who abandoned this type of thinking for science and reason, drastically and suddenly, learn how to ascend? You can't science your way into ascension. even oma says this. ascension is as much a spiritual thing as it is a physical thing. i don't think the ancients "discovered" ascension. i think they were told how when they cracked the code in their darkest and/or final hours. so what does the circumstantial evidence tell us? we know that 60 million years after the destiny launched, not only do the lanteans know about the destiny, but my have been actively been visiting her recently and staffing her with a current crew so to speak....and regardless their reasons for ascension...we know that in a rather quick time frame the lanteans "magically" discover something so powerful it allowed them to transcend and tranform in a way they would not naturally have sought out themselves under different circumstances culturally speaking. i personally think that there is enough to suggest a connection between all these things.
@@unarealtaragionevole Wall of text but I will say only this. Think about it. It is 60 million years since Destiny launch. As far as I know there was no ancient body on Destiniy anywhere to found, not ead nor in stasis. In 60 million years many things can happen. I mentioned hyperdrive. Destiny cannot travel that fast. It is amazing they actually menaged to negate time movement factor for traveling at speed of light or FTL. The moment hyperdrive was discovred Destiny bcame absolute. Now compare ancients with us humans. See how far we got in just last 100 years. Then imagine where we would be already if there wasn't for dark ages. We doubled our life span, We fly in airplanes. We sent people to the moon (if you believe that, I dont :p ) We have mobile phones. Use all this technology to a person just 100 years ago he would think it is magic. How ancients discovered ascention, we don't know but we also know that their kin, the Ori also learned ascention without having anything to do with ancients and Destiny. So as I said. In my mind, Destiny became apsolute since Atlantis ins around 10 000 or 20 000 years old which compared to 60 million years is blink of an eye. We also know ancients was very smart race lol. They didn't throw away anything and that is why Destiny's adress was still available Destiny's mission was to get to the source of pattern in background noise of the universe which, by that time without Hyperdrive left only possible solution. Destiny's FTL and for that it would took at least 100 000 million years more. That is why I think, they just scrub the mission.
@@anulire i will agree what you are saying is possible...but...what i am saying is equally possible. that's the fun in the debate. sadly, the way the show ended left way too many unanswered questions. so all is possible until proven otherwise. as for eli finding the ancients, that happens in SGU Back to Destiny. i will admit i don't know if it's official canon, but SGU Back to Destiny was an officially licensed story and most of the internet has embraced it as official canon. so until we are told it is not, we will have to assume it is since it's licensed material. while the ori did eventually discover ascension, we don't when or how. they may have discovered it on their own as the signal was discovered when the ori/ancients were one people so they had access to the signal...or...they may have learned about it the same time which caused the split between the ori and the lanteans in the first place. remember, that ascension requires both a spiritual as was physical component. what was the split about? they couldn't agree on whether humanity should concentrate a more spiritual path or a more science based path. the question becomes a path to what? again this is speculation, but it's also common sense speculation. since we don't know the actual dates for when or how the split happened we can't say this is what happened, but we can't say it isn't a possibility also. however, what we do know is that around 10,00 years ago the ancients were active in the milky way and they were building icarus planets at some point for the purpose of reaching the destiny still. and we know from atlantis that a stasis pods can preserve a person for about 10,000 years give or take. which again means it's possible to put a new crew of ancient's within the time window a plausibility to be the crew that eli finds on the destiny. so while this is only a theory....it's both possible and plausible.
Hyperdrive was known to Ancients when they launched Destiney, they used it during exodus from Ori galaxy. Destiny doesn’t use it because it can’t collect the relevant information while in space. About “forgetting”, I think they just didn’t need it after they ascended, but in Lantean times they still planned on using it, and they probably could still dial it with 3 ZPM powered Atlantis. It’s just they managed to ascend before Destiny even completed its mission
yes but no, you can jump faster but if you do this many time ftl start slowly destroy ship parts and nexst jump if i good remember 4-6 Random FTL just go Big Boom, they dont tell how many time you need to ship can again do fast jump and dont stop be on one part but werk is good time i think
BTW, I just rewatched Universe, and I noticed it had 4 shuttle slots, 2 pointing forward, 2 pointing backwards, the thing is, we never see it have more than 2, but if you pay attention to Destiny flybys, you clearly see the shuttle in a pod, a corridor, and another empty pod facing backwards, so I'm guessing the other side is the same, it clearly have 4 slots.
@@johncunningham4820 don't forget it has an FTL drive, similar to lightspeed, remembering the time delay with the Tria? it was 10000 years, but they only really noticed 10 or less years! the destiny is 60 million years old, but maybe only noticed 1-3 million! and it was built for eternity right from the start!:P
If Eli could recall a seed ship with a full squad of repair droids In a few weeks Destiny could be as good as new. Minus one seed ship of course. I'd love to see a new Destiny. Maybe a repaired computer could allow the ladies in it to appear to the crew in VR.
The Destiny is somewhere between 3-5 million , which is based off when the ancients left the milkyway galaxy and the work we did which although wasn’t confirmed it was hinted at on the forum of the MMO back in 2009/20010 .
Stargate Universe left us in the longest cliffhanger that i could remember. Since the characters were left on a 8 years long cryosleep, they could just wake them up and it wouldnt matter if they have got older. as we have seen in other series like Lost in Space, you can survive but get older on a cryosleep. any producer there?
Actually while destiny is powered by the stars, solar scoping isn't something I would support or recommend. Imagine if thousands of ships were doing it and causing CMEs disruptions impacting technology on earth, or even shortening the life of a star. Both situations would have the practice banned and made illegal.
in all things stargate on your channel....i love.....i am in the process of making Stargate in minecraft.....a real Stargate/minecraft concept, where all things Stargate are in block form.....there are already plenty of Stargate mods.....but, what i am making, its not a mod, and it doesn't have circles
The Destiny Stargate is the oldest and most primitive model in existence, predating the Antarctic Gate whose DHD was over fifty million years old. Logically the Destiny was launched before the creation of the Milky Way Stargate Network, right at the start of Alteran exploration of our own galaxy.
To be fair, the "Hundreds of thousands of years ago" was an utterance by a (fallible) human. Also 60 million could also be considered to be six hundred hundred-thousands.
Oldest milky way style gate was 50+ million years old, and atlantis left earth 10 to 12 million years ago
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Both can be true possibly, if the ship didn't bother with compensating for time dilation without a crew on board. From a relatively stationary perspective (that is, from the perspective of your typical planetary body) it could be 60 My, but from Destiny's perspective it could be under a million.
Equip it with 3 ZPM’s, a ring platform and a portable ring for planet side rapid transfers. All tech the earth should have by now ( Aaguard core, Atlantis )
Don't need Ring platform if you have Asgard Beaming Tech or Ancient Obelisk Beaming Tech which was suscesser to Ring Platform. Rings are portable, you can send a ring platform down to a planet or deploy them like Ori advance Army. Rings can work like Gate, Ring - matter to Beam, Beam to matter - Ring. They had an Episode where they hijacked a matter transfer by putting their ship right in the way of the beam.
I feel sorry for the person who had to test out the ship recharge feature doing the development phase of the ship, imagine it "Wait; you said I have do what with the ship" yeah, just take it and fly it right into that star their, there's a 17% chance the ship may explore and you could die, but hey that's a small chance. "Why can't we use the automated feature for that" well if anything goes wrong the ships system will be under such tremendous stress from the string put on them because of the shields taking up so much power, that any diagnostics sent back by the ship computer would come back as corrupted data; so good luck and if you should die send back as much data as you can beforehand.
Atlantis leaved Earth Millions of years ago, and they had Puddle Jumpers at that point, which are far more advanced than the shuttles of the Destiny. So Destiny must be much older than that.
ei, na verdade, o cruzador Destiny, seria até quase do tamanho de um planeta inteiro ou melhor 1/4 do tamanho da terra quase, ele não conseguiria entrar na orbita baixa de um planeta como a terra por exemplo, sem causar problemas, de tão grande que o monstro é. Em teoria Destiny até poderia mas causaria uma perturbação atmosférica gigantesca, e poderia incendiar uma grande porção da atmosfera, como nas cenas do filme Independence Day: O Ressurgimento, quando a maior nave mãe destroyer alienígena entra na orbita da terra. Ela e uma nave monstruosamente grande, é até maior que a maior nave estelar da federação, da franquia star trek.
No my friend. The Ancients did not get "sidetracked" by Ascension. They got sidetracked by The Wraith and the Replicators. Ascension was ALWAYS a collective social destination for ALL Alterrans/Ancients. Ever since their split form the Ori. the Ancients have been pursuing Ascension; and possibly even before since we KNOW that there are TWO separate opposing factions of Ascended beings.
I want you to choose between two scenarios one in which life for a human is really bad and the is constantly on war (with Aliens) but humanity is United or in a world where life is great there is peace and prosperity but alien are intermixing with us.
fun fact this ship can normal open gate to Earth but on Seris he is to old and can rege only 40% batery, one of drone ship on seris have full work baterry but well he have own crew who dont like idea use this drone ship
the ancients didnt forget about the ship as there was a crew on it before the events of SGU, why the door was stuck in the first and second episode; dont need the gene for this chair as it predated the ones we see in atlantis ect; the destiny did dial earth in the star...which lead to the ep twin destinies and desendents and got col telford back to earth; looked like destiny could hold 3 shuttles one may have been destroyed; and i wouldnt say the gate on destiny was a prototype but more one of the first of gen1 of the stargates; lastly...destiny left some time after the beginning of Stargate the ark of truth, which happened 10-30 million yrs ago, so the 60 million figure is wrong
Prescriptive grammar is a farce propagated by the feeble minded. The irony is anyone who actually studies grammar rather than trying to simply impose their take on grammar would already know the folly.
60 Million years WOULD be more accurate with existing show canon; as Atlantis itself left Earth 65 Million years ago (as seen in the pilot episode Atlantis Rising) and leaving behind the ancien woman who would later be discovered By SG-1 in season 6 when Jonas was part of the team. Of course that would make Destiny STILL newer that the Ancient City ships such as Atlantis. If destiny is 60 Million years old remember that Atlantis is still older by 5 Million Years as of the pilot. Who's to say that it wasn't already still tens or even hundreds of thousands of years old at that point. Remember the Ancients had to come TO Earth first before Leaving it 65 Million Years ago. Which begs the question...who does Destiny's newer technology look OLDER and more rudimentary than Atlantis, when Atlantis is actually older??
by far my favorite Stargate series. ended 2 seasons (one at least) too soon. the other shows were good, but this was the tone I liked. now the web series? idk what they actually meant to do, but I hope that wasn't it. what a waste of the talent of Connor also.
I don't care if he IS one of the show producers... 60 Million years is absurd. Even a million is stupid. I get it... When your fictional TV universe lasts for more than a decade, and keeps growing in scope, you'll end up with a lot of contradictory loose ends that you have to retcon. But THAT was terrible. Worse than the Star Wars Parsec retcon.
The plague that forced the Ancients to escape the Milky Way galaxy and fly Atlantis to Pegasus was 5 million years ago so the Destiny is that old at least.
That was reassuring. For a moment I was beginning to think there was no hope. Yes, even a million years is long since at that point we're talking period of evolution.
@@krane15 They abandoned it in Pegasus, but they escaped the Milky Way using Atlantis 3 to 5 million years ago when the galactic plague wiped their empire. It’s in the beginning of Stargate Atlantis.
@@yazanmowed My point is, that's far too long. That would make too many mismatches with past development and present time lines. Besides, Atlantis is nowhere near that old. Remember, 5 million years is the difference between modern humans and monkeys (OK, maybe [planet of the] apes), but all the humans in the Milky way and Pegasus all look the same. ZPMs don't last that long either.
Sorry, but Destiny was a bad idea (and I am not talking about the show, just the ship). I get its a long range experiment, but what was the end goal? Its been 60 million years. Even if the Ancients weren't wiped out by the Ori and then the Wraith, they wouldn't have profited from anything the ship beamed back. I am not sure if it is ever stated on the show, but we don't even know how close it is to its destination. Then, while we know the ship has definitely been under attack over the years, the ship is basically falling apart, which means its ether just was built no where near well enough to complete its mission, or its just limping along. That being said, it is one of the oldest ship's in scifi as a whole. Interesting concept, never liked the show, but the ship was definitely interesting.
How do you build a ship to withstand the unknown? Second, didn't we send out Voyager 1 ans 2? In any event, its purpose it exploration. Remember, its seeding the universe with star gates, so eventuality future geneartions would go galaxy hopping.
@@DrewLSsix The point is that the ship didn't seem well prepared. Granted, it's holding up well for 60 million, but even by this time, it was clear the ancients had been in their share of interstellar wars. The ship doesn't seem to be well equiped even with the dammage and age. The ship also seems slow compared to hyperspace capable ships (although I wonder if that was by design). The ship seems less about designed for some grand generation spanning knowledge mission, and more act of desperation. I know it's from a level of tech from a period we don't see on screen outside of this show, but the entire mission just seems poorly conceived. I almost wonder if this structure at the core of the universe wasn't spotted on their trip from the Ori galaxy, and seaking it out was more an attempt to unify a demorralized, but rebuilding society than actually trying to reach its goal.
@@jhmcd2 In order to understand the structure hidden in the CBR it needed to take readings from as many varied places as possible so just hyperspacing around would be skipping a lot of readings. The ship seems incredibly prepared to me especially if you go with the longer numbers for how long it has been going. The ship was supposed to end up manned but was not but it still is around and functioning after all those eons and who knows how many combat situations and spacial anomalies it came across. The same can be said about the seed ships sent ahead that are still pumping out star gates ahead of the destiny. I think the reason the Destiny program fell by the wayside and never ended up manned was all the knowledge and answers they could seek with it was something they would know once they figured how to ascend so they decided to focus on that instead.
I really didn't care for this ship, or the show. The tone didn't fit the Stargate franchise. A failed attempt to be bsg. Whatever Amazon does I hope it's not in this style
That's the issue with Star Trek Picard. They change it to fit the current generation, but don't gain new fans and alienate the old ones that expected a continuation of something similar to the old. I still recall that same apprehension when they announced TNG. Thing is, Roddenberry was still around and involved, and why that show was a huge success and resulted in several spin-off and ultimately and entire franchise. They still had the same Federation and the same values, and even brought in many of the old characters. Sadly, Nichols and Takei never crossed TNG threshold.
@@krane15 I watch new Trek. But I'm not in love with it. Major mistakes were made... Too long to list honestly. But they could have accomplished getting new fans, and keeping old ones
@@krane15 Roddenberry was a spineless hack. Nothing you think is important about trek was his work and chances are all your least favorite things were his.
Absolutely true, but I think it's because they were never meant to be a crew. They were literally thrown together. It would have been odd if everyone had immediately conformed and become a model team of adventurers.
This show deserves a 3rd season to wrap things up I loved the Battlestar Galactica feel to it.
That was literally the reason I didn't like the show. The horrid overuse of fake handheld shakeycam crap in particular made it so that I never watched enough to even care about anything in it, and really all I remember is a fat nerd, Begbie, a bland commander and the horrible camerawork. (It doesn't need to shake like its the opening of Saving Private Ryan when people are just having a discussion).
With the story and characters I had the same problem with Atlantis in that it was all a bit generic and bland, but that show had two things Destiny didn't. Cinematography that didn't give me a migraine and David Hewlett. So watching that show was at least amusing due to the latter.
But of course, to each their own.
edit: Just to add one thing, while I didn't really care for the BSG reboot, I didn't actively hate it the way I did Destiny. Perhaps because it was a reboot and not a new part of the existing story that looked radically different. Also it didn't give me literal headaches like Destiny did (and I play flight games that can literally make people puke from motion sickness, so this is really saying something) and from what I have seen in clips, looks to be made with 100x more ability in the technical aspects of making a show.
Funny, I had the opposite feeling because of that similarity. I really didn't like BG but not for want of trying. I should have known it wouldn't be a show for me once I realized the Starbuck character had been revised as female.
There's 1 in EVERY crowd!
It would be cool if the already passed the signal and realize it's getting stronger. To find out the universe is a expanding ring and they have made it back to earth but back in time. Realizing the original ancients we're humans on the ship causing perpetual loop.
@@krane15 I wanted to like the BSG reboot. The gender swap of one out of an ensemble crew didn't matter to me anymore than the exact same thing did with Space Battleship Yamato 2199. Times when I abhor this stuff is like what the Jurassic Park movie did with switching the kids around. A lot of it has to do with the percentage of stuff changed.... the same is true in so many other instances of _anything_ being switched around in reboots and the like. I do admit that these days, random genderswaps are a giant red caution flag. That said I will give things a chance. Some of it when done well like with Space Battleship Yamato 2199 & 2202, work well (and tbh for that show it did help mix up the crew a bit more compared to the old stuff, which was a product of its time)
I had really heard from people who knew what I liked in sci-fi that BSG would be right up my alley. And even today when I will see some clips from its action scenes and whatnot, then go "you know it does look nice..." I have to remind myself that (so far) I have tried 3 times to watch the show and given up on it within 5 hours of viewing.
I really don't know what it is about the show, but I just can't be bothered to care about any of it within a decent timeframe. (My general philosophy here is similar to books, where after the first 3 or so chapters, if I am not invested in the story, I stop reading. Since I know everytime I haven't, by the end it feels more like work than a relaxing activity.)
I actually regret watching all 7 seasons of Voyager. I should have stopped halfway through the first season at most. Only reason I persevered was because it remained the only ST stuff I had not seen. That show was a giant waste of my time, though by the 4th or 5th season it was more like background noise I was kinda paying attention to. That was how little the show, from a franchise I adore, managed to get me invested.
Maybe one of these days I will end up find a reason to like BSG enough to keep me interested.... maybe not..... its weird like that. It wouldn't be the first time it took several attempts before I watched a full show.
addendum: as for things I find as flawed from a technical standpoint, like the camera in Destiny.... if the story or characters or actors can hook me, the technical parts matter far far far less. Its like when you have a game with a good story and bad gameplay, if the story is good enough the gameplay matters little, vice-versa as well. Though it takes something special with the technical side of things to make me ignore other issues with shows and movies. For instance I will watch anything that approaches the animation quality of Fantasia or The Wings of Honneamise, I don't care what it is, since I love animation as a whole. A ton of remarkable CGI or awesome practical effects would fit that bill for live action. Take the original Gone in 60 Seconds. Nothing about that movie matters, except that the entire 2nd half of the movie is one extremely awesome car chase.
2:33 Technically, Destiny's interface chair doesn't require an ancient activation gene, since the ship predates that type of technology as stated in the show.
This is true, but you did have to be human to use it. At least that's what Rush said.
It shouldn't even have a chair. These are issues that always crop up when making sci-fi movies and TV shows since its impossible to predict how well they will catch on. Even most of the shows are independent and don't follow the same time line.
@@krane15 why shouldn't it have a chair? Did ancient humans not... sit?
They had to of started somewhere.. makes more sense they started with Destiny's type chair and upgraded it throughout time, until they got to atlantis's advancements
@@DrewLSsix Because the timeline is too great. Every generation build on the one before. Just look how far mankind has come in the last century. Besides, when it come to millions of years we're talking about entirely different species. That's why its absurd.
Another thing you could say is a feature of the Destiny is the vertically-moving bridge, allowing those at the helm to raise or lower the bridge if needed for extra safety or extra visibility. Also the cryo pods too. Repair robots, if you count the comic.
And a sidenote, the control chair doesn't require the ATA gene because it's the older model, and it's left vague as to how one uses the chair to control anything. Rush uses it to find the bridge code, Chloe uses it because of her condition at some point, and the other guy gets his mind messed up the first time and then vanishes the next time. It can connect with people inside the ship's AI system, though, which is interesting and pretty dangerous. I just don't remember anyone using it to directly control anything outside the dream world it puts people in.
The repair robots are from the show, and the comic doesn't count as it's not canon
Finally, another Stargate video.
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Thats what I said
I loved this show the most of the three. I'm probably a tiny minority in that I was hooked right from the start, nothing bothered me about the "drama". It's my fav sci fi programme to date, and the destiny? In my view it's the coolest ship in sci fi.
I've always felt fans needed two shows. One lighthearted,one dark and drear. I like Destiny best.
Destiny ship is the best looking and really has the galactica vibes,
But the best ship for anything is Daedalus no question askedy the ship just goes in overwhelmed with disatvantage 12 hive ships, at least 36 cruisers as support craft to one new built battle cruiser and stands its ground for a pretty fair amount of time, even taking out some of the enemy ships, before escaping. Daedalus is just unkillable ship
@@honzasenbauer612 the deadalus without a zpm would be destroyed in two shots by an ori mothership and it takes about five beam weapon shot to take out an ori vessel. And an ancient war ship would make short work of her too using drones. I love the deadalus class, shes my fav human sci fi ship, destiny is just.....so much more.
@@nihilityjoey yep, agreed. The ship has its charm. Rusty, faulty, but sturdy as hell and if you want something, you make it. Plus the design reminds me of Steampunk so much and it fits the ship perfectly. So many mechanical parts, that you can repair or build from scratch on the ship, you don't need specific machines to build circuits or something like that.
This show was hot steamy garbage. So we're most of the cast!! I'm so sorry but nothing is better than SG1 and Atlantis!!!👌😉☝️😎
The fact it's been a decade if perfect. Let's hope they keep the cast and bring it back
It certainly deserves that.
A battery that only looses 1% storage per 1 Million years? I could use a few of those.
You must be to young to have owned a Nokia 3310, i assume ...
@@suit1337 actually, I am old enough to remember only having the option of a party line for home phone service, and made some of the first bag phones that were mass produced.
The shields also "protected/negated" time dilation effects - so observable time of FTL and still frames were the same.
How shields could do that for all the time frames of references of the entire universe is a mystery to me.
But hey - it's science fiction!! :)
I think the ancients doesn't forget about Destiny. But when they ascended, they don't need her anymore. They got all the answers Destiny should find in the cosmic background radiation.
Yes finally my favorite ship of the series. I knew Destiny was millions of years old but I didn't know it was that old. Makes you wonder if the Ancients could build something that durable, when they were a young race, how could they loose at all to the Wraith.
Well they did not loose per se.
They just got fed up of fighting a near never ending battle.
Think of usa in afghanistan.
America techincally can win its just not worth it morally or in lives necessary.
I guess if acension was not an option or retreat to earth was not available they would have used their superweapons such as what janus was developpong and would have ended the wraith
After all even millenia later the wraith could not break through the sheilds of atlantis even with limited power and ancient drones can wipe out wraith ships even in far superior number.
Just for sake of story budget the tuari keep kamakasing them.
@@drrohanjacob Have you ever seen a battle between wasps and an ant colony? Ants don't win battles by strategy, they do so by sheer number overwhelming its aggresor. Remember, the Wraith operate as a colony, with a queen in charge.
You pointed out just one of many limitations in writing -- how far do you go back? In this case, the Ancients didn't lose, rather, they abandoned the battle once they figured out how to ascend. At that point, the fight with the Wraith was no longer of any consequence.
@@krane15 Oh i agree that the wraith used their numbers to overwhelm but only by using a cloning facility that needed zpm to power
Also regaudless of their number they were still unable to breech the sheild of atlantis as long as it had zpm to power it which the ancients had no problem building.
So yes even without ascension the ancients could fight the wraith to stalemate at worse and win a pyrhhic victory at best.
This was, imho, the best Stargate series. I was really bummed that it didn’t last longer.
Agree, the way they dumped it made me go off the whole franchise. I am sure others fealt the same way.
@@dmcg36 they never dumped it.
Fingers crossed for Stargate series continuing!
Destiny also had repair robots on board. While we only see one in a crate they do talk about using it to repair the engines. In future scripts they were suppose to find others still working in other parts of the ships, cannibalizing parts to keep systems going as they ran out of raw materials.
Is there an official source for these future scripts?
@@fredwupkensoppel8949 only what the writers talked about on Gateworld website and podcasts/TH-cam.
One of the engines was sabotaged, which allowed the other engines to run more efficient, hence your only strong as your weakest link.
"hundreds of thousands of years ago" and "millions of years ago" are not mutually exclusive, it is just a matter of multiplication. :)
What's a couple of Zeroes between friends..................................
ten hundred thousand years
I never liked the theory that the Ancients "forgot" or "abandoned" the Destiny. With 60 million years and their brainpower, I believe we are ignoring an equally possible option, they "succeeded" the Destiny. I like to think the secret message was the instructions to ascension. They cracked the signal and that's how they knew what it is and how to do it. Maybe it was left by a higher power, or earlier more advanced race, who knows...but possible.
They didn't. They probably discover hyperdrive in meantime and learn to ascend so Destiny wasn't important anymore
@@anulire i'm not so certain we can say they didn't. it's never actually said one way or another in the shows, books, or comics. so while all is possible, i think we have enough from the shows themselves to actually suggest the opposite. why?
1) the lanteans still have the 9th chevron in their database for usage. this wasn't an alteran database but a lantean database that was separated from the destiny and it's mission by 60 million years. what's interesting is that not only do they still have it, but it was in the system almost as if were a secret in plain sight. with no references, explanations, or instructions....but there for all to see and use at some point for those who knew what it is, and what it's for.
2) the icarus planets were using tech that came long after the building of the destiny and it's launch. why were they still building these new massive planet level techs to reach the destiny or at least have access to the destiny if they abandoned or forgot it.
3) this is not canon (or at least i don't think it is) but in the comics, eli discovers ancients in stasis. now we don't find out exactly who they are. but, we know that the most advanced stasis tech on atlantis can only sustain a person for a few thousand years with optimum power. so either, the destiny stasis tech is superior to atlantis' tech (which i doubt)...or...those ancients on the destiny are a newer crew and only a few thousands of years old. which would suggest the ancients were still sending crews to the destiny and recently. or at least within a time frame that works with the lanteans.
4) why do i think they cracked the code, and it was instructions for ascension, or this is at least a possibility? we learn from rush that the reason the destiny was sent into the darkness, was because the ancients knew that whatever was in the message was going to transform them like nothing before. that's why they invested so much effort in the project. now from the launch of the destiny to the collapse of the lanteans (60 million years of tech, exploration, inter-galactic dominance) the most transformational thing to happen was ascension. how exactly did a people who abandoned this type of thinking for science and reason, drastically and suddenly, learn how to ascend? You can't science your way into ascension. even oma says this. ascension is as much a spiritual thing as it is a physical thing. i don't think the ancients "discovered" ascension. i think they were told how when they cracked the code in their darkest and/or final hours.
so what does the circumstantial evidence tell us? we know that 60 million years after the destiny launched, not only do the lanteans know about the destiny, but my have been actively been visiting her recently and staffing her with a current crew so to speak....and regardless their reasons for ascension...we know that in a rather quick time frame the lanteans "magically" discover something so powerful it allowed them to transcend and tranform in a way they would not naturally have sought out themselves under different circumstances culturally speaking. i personally think that there is enough to suggest a connection between all these things.
@@unarealtaragionevole Wall of text but I will say only this. Think about it. It is 60 million years since Destiny launch. As far as I know there was no ancient body on Destiniy anywhere to found, not ead nor in stasis. In 60 million years many things can happen. I mentioned hyperdrive. Destiny cannot travel that fast. It is amazing they actually menaged to negate time movement factor for traveling at speed of light or FTL. The moment hyperdrive was discovred Destiny bcame absolute.
Now compare ancients with us humans. See how far we got in just last 100 years. Then imagine where we would be already if there wasn't for dark ages. We doubled our life span, We fly in airplanes. We sent people to the moon (if you believe that, I dont :p ) We have mobile phones. Use all this technology to a person just 100 years ago he would think it is magic.
How ancients discovered ascention, we don't know but we also know that their kin, the Ori also learned ascention without having anything to do with ancients and Destiny. So as I said. In my mind, Destiny became apsolute since Atlantis ins around 10 000 or 20 000 years old which compared to 60 million years is blink of an eye. We also know ancients was very smart race lol. They didn't throw away anything and that is why Destiny's adress was still available
Destiny's mission was to get to the source of pattern in background noise of the universe which, by that time without Hyperdrive left only possible solution. Destiny's FTL and for that it would took at least 100 000 million years more. That is why I think, they just scrub the mission.
@@anulire i will agree what you are saying is possible...but...what i am saying is equally possible. that's the fun in the debate. sadly, the way the show ended left way too many unanswered questions. so all is possible until proven otherwise. as for eli finding the ancients, that happens in SGU Back to Destiny. i will admit i don't know if it's official canon, but SGU Back to Destiny was an officially licensed story and most of the internet has embraced it as official canon. so until we are told it is not, we will have to assume it is since it's licensed material.
while the ori did eventually discover ascension, we don't when or how. they may have discovered it on their own as the signal was discovered when the ori/ancients were one people so they had access to the signal...or...they may have learned about it the same time which caused the split between the ori and the lanteans in the first place. remember, that ascension requires both a spiritual as was physical component. what was the split about? they couldn't agree on whether humanity should concentrate a more spiritual path or a more science based path. the question becomes a path to what? again this is speculation, but it's also common sense speculation. since we don't know the actual dates for when or how the split happened we can't say this is what happened, but we can't say it isn't a possibility also.
however, what we do know is that around 10,00 years ago the ancients were active in the milky way and they were building icarus planets at some point for the purpose of reaching the destiny still. and we know from atlantis that a stasis pods can preserve a person for about 10,000 years give or take. which again means it's possible to put a new crew of ancient's within the time window a plausibility to be the crew that eli finds on the destiny.
so while this is only a theory....it's both possible and plausible.
Hyperdrive was known to Ancients when they launched Destiney, they used it during exodus from Ori galaxy. Destiny doesn’t use it because it can’t collect the relevant information while in space.
About “forgetting”, I think they just didn’t need it after they ascended, but in Lantean times they still planned on using it, and they probably could still dial it with 3 ZPM powered Atlantis. It’s just they managed to ascend before Destiny even completed its mission
I loved SGU was so sad when they cancelled it and instead continued it as a comic read some of the comics but was unable to read all of them
That's becasue you were the only one that liked it.
Ben " Elon Musk would love the Destiny as it was solar powered "
Scotty " how do you know he didn't invent the thing? "
because it didn't explode
Stargate is such a wonderful universe i just re watched all of the shows and movies starting in order
Pretty cool ship, I wonder how it's shields and weapons would hold up against the later Ancient stuff like the Aurora class. Or even a Daedalus.
If I remember right sheilds may be equal or just a little weaker then Atlantis's sheilds with only 1 zpm but with more zpms Atlantis is stronger
@@agentwisconsin3184 but what if destiny's energy storage was repaired to be able to hold 100% of original capacity, instead of less then 40%?
@@tacenda7776 know idea don't even know if what I said is is actually correct that was something I heard some years back
The Destiny's hyperdrive also required a minimum time of 2 hours to "cool down" after use, and before re-engaging.
yes but no, you can jump faster but if you do this many time ftl start slowly destroy ship parts and nexst jump if i good remember 4-6 Random FTL just go Big Boom, they dont tell how many time you need to ship can again do fast jump and dont stop be on one part but werk is good time i think
BTW, I just rewatched Universe, and I noticed it had 4 shuttle slots, 2 pointing forward, 2 pointing backwards, the thing is, we never see it have more than 2, but if you pay attention to Destiny flybys, you clearly see the shuttle in a pod, a corridor, and another empty pod facing backwards, so I'm guessing the other side is the same, it clearly have 4 slots.
Yeah I think the Destiny was the Coolest Ship . What a POWERHOUSE it would have been when new . A beautiful design too .
The 60 million years doesn't fit though. It far too long.
@@krane15 . Totally agree . 1,000,000 is reasonable for a Sentient , Self-repairing machine I reckon
@@johncunningham4820 don't forget it has an FTL drive, similar to lightspeed, remembering the time delay with the Tria? it was 10000 years, but they only really noticed 10 or less years! the destiny is 60 million years old, but maybe only noticed 1-3 million! and it was built for eternity right from the start!:P
@@BEN-eu6xq . Couldn't ignore the Time-dilation ? Also , Faster than light the clock potentially runs backwards I guess .
All of those amazing features... but yet no turn signals. Reminds me of Dallas,TX
VERY cool video. Universe was my favorite of the Stargate franchises. Always wanted to know more about Destiny.
I did not realize there was a Stargate Universe Comic, I am going to read that now to see what happened after the end of the season.
Thank you for the holiday post. Always like the humor with the info.
Happy holidays all!
I thought she was considerably larger than those figures. I certainly looks that way in the show.
YAAAAAY! Another Stargate content!!
If Eli could recall a seed ship with a full squad of repair droids In a few weeks Destiny could be as good as new. Minus one seed ship of course. I'd love to see a new Destiny. Maybe a repaired computer could allow the ladies in it to appear to the crew in VR.
The Destiny is somewhere between 3-5 million , which is based off when the ancients left the milkyway galaxy and the work we did which although wasn’t confirmed it was hinted at on the forum of the MMO back in 2009/20010 .
Love Stargate, hoping Amazon will just green light a new series, Brad Wright and Co. Are activli procurement
Stargate Universe left us in the longest cliffhanger that i could remember. Since the characters were left on a 8 years long cryosleep, they could just wake them up and it wouldnt matter if they have got older. as we have seen in other series like Lost in Space, you can survive but get older on a cryosleep.
any producer there?
Actually while destiny is powered by the stars, solar scoping isn't something I would support or recommend. Imagine if thousands of ships were doing it and causing CMEs disruptions impacting technology on earth, or even shortening the life of a star. Both situations would have the practice banned and made illegal.
You forgot the bridge going down to be more protected in case of battle... Anyway great video.
Thank you for doing one in my absolute favorite ship.
With how fast the Destiny seemed to pass through galaxies, and it’s age. I’d say that it’s at least a trillion light years away from Earth.
Season3 " They figure out Destiny has made 3left turns and one right turn every 100,000yrs" 😜
Could you also do some videos on farscape? That would be awesome.
in all things stargate on your channel....i love.....i am in the process of making Stargate in minecraft.....a real Stargate/minecraft concept, where all things Stargate are in block form.....there are already plenty of Stargate mods.....but, what i am making, its not a mod, and it doesn't have circles
Wow
The only way I would be happy with a new stargate series is if they somehow resolved the story of Destiny and the crew that's on it.
Hundreds of thousands would be a good off hand estimate. Especially with having no idea other than saying "really really old".
We need more Star Gate!!!!
The Destiny Stargate is the oldest and most primitive model in existence, predating the Antarctic Gate whose DHD was over fifty million years old. Logically the Destiny was launched before the creation of the Milky Way Stargate Network, right at the start of Alteran exploration of our own galaxy.
Wooo. Some love for Destiny!
I loved the ship. I just wish the crew had been irradiated in one of the suns.
I wish there was some place I could stream this show.
Stargate universe had so much potential
To be fair, the "Hundreds of thousands of years ago" was an utterance by a (fallible) human.
Also 60 million could also be considered to be six hundred hundred-thousands.
Oldest milky way style gate was 50+ million years old, and atlantis left earth 10 to 12 million years ago
Both can be true possibly, if the ship didn't bother with compensating for time dilation without a crew on board. From a relatively stationary perspective (that is, from the perspective of your typical planetary body) it could be 60 My, but from Destiny's perspective it could be under a million.
@ Nice!
Equip it with 3 ZPM’s, a ring platform and a portable ring for planet side rapid transfers. All tech the earth should have by now ( Aaguard core, Atlantis )
Don't need Ring platform if you have Asgard Beaming Tech or Ancient Obelisk Beaming Tech which was suscesser to Ring Platform. Rings are portable, you can send a ring platform down to a planet or deploy them like Ori advance Army. Rings can work like Gate, Ring - matter to Beam, Beam to matter - Ring. They had an Episode where they hijacked a matter transfer by putting their ship right in the way of the beam.
@@tomcat124us Trueand even better!
Can you do a video on one of your channels about Children of a Dead earth (Ships, Politics, Physics)
my favorite spaceship in terms of function. the design of the destiny is only surpassed by Atlantis itself.
I feel sorry for the person who had to test out the ship recharge feature doing the development phase of the ship, imagine it "Wait; you said I have do what with the ship" yeah, just take it and fly it right into that star their, there's a 17% chance the ship may explore and you could die, but hey that's a small chance. "Why can't we use the automated feature for that" well if anything goes wrong the ships system will be under such tremendous stress from the string put on them because of the shields taking up so much power, that any diagnostics sent back by the ship computer would come back as corrupted data; so good luck and if you should die send back as much data as you can beforehand.
Atlantis leaved Earth Millions of years ago, and they had Puddle Jumpers at that point, which are far more advanced than the shuttles of the Destiny. So Destiny must be much older than that.
I always thought that Destiny couldn't reach 100% power capability because it was damaged not because the solar batteries capacity degraded over time
It is kind of the same or at least a similar problem either way.
@@reeseolsen4052 Entropy is an unforgiving beast.
I really wanted to see how sgu ended up. Shame it was cancelled
Please make a video where the galactic republic with the jedi attack earth
anyone else noticing the similarity between this and the necrons ship design from 40k not saying one copied the other but they look extremely similar
Genrtions films Robert carryle was aslo the bad guy in eragon
ei, na verdade, o cruzador Destiny, seria até quase do tamanho de um planeta inteiro ou melhor 1/4 do tamanho da terra quase, ele não conseguiria entrar na orbita baixa de um planeta como a terra por exemplo, sem causar problemas, de tão grande que o monstro é. Em teoria Destiny até poderia mas causaria uma perturbação atmosférica gigantesca, e poderia incendiar uma grande porção da atmosfera, como nas cenas do filme Independence Day: O Ressurgimento, quando a maior nave mãe destroyer alienígena entra na orbita da terra. Ela e uma nave monstruosamente grande, é até maior que a maior nave estelar da federação, da franquia star trek.
SGU most underrated sci-fi tv series, is sad ended in just 2 seasons
Can you cover the ships of the Cowboy Bebop anime
It’s giant
No my friend. The Ancients did not get "sidetracked" by Ascension. They got sidetracked by The Wraith and the Replicators. Ascension was ALWAYS a collective social destination for ALL Alterrans/Ancients. Ever since their split form the Ori. the Ancients have been pursuing Ascension; and possibly even before since we KNOW that there are TWO separate opposing factions of Ascended beings.
7:47 i dont think its a prototype, but rather the 1st generation..
One of the best shows and just like firefly it was scrapped for fucking Kardashians!
God should end us all for it!!
I still think the message is sorry for the inconvenience
To be fair, hundreds of thousands is the same as a million. It is 10 hundreds of thousands to be precise.
Stargate Universe was a great show... it sucked when it was canceled, so much wasted potential...
Actually everyone can use the chair, it predates the gene tech
If I was an ancient I launch destiny then Id take a time machine puddle jumper and check on the destiny's progress every 10k years
I want you to choose between two scenarios one in which life for a human is really bad and the is constantly on war (with Aliens) but humanity is United or in a world where life is great there is peace and prosperity but alien are intermixing with us.
The FTL on Destiny is basically just a warp drive.
hahem...thougth the green house is scalling the center of the bridge...
fun fact this ship can normal open gate to Earth but on Seris he is to old and can rege only 40% batery, one of drone ship on seris have full work baterry but well he have own crew who dont like idea use this drone ship
it could only store 40% of its reserve power not total power
the ancients didnt forget about the ship as there was a crew on it before the events of SGU, why the door was stuck in the first and second episode; dont need the gene for this chair as it predated the ones we see in atlantis ect; the destiny did dial earth in the star...which lead to the ep twin destinies and desendents and got col telford back to earth; looked like destiny could hold 3 shuttles one may have been destroyed; and i wouldnt say the gate on destiny was a prototype but more one of the first of gen1 of the stargates; lastly...destiny left some time after the beginning of Stargate the ark of truth, which happened 10-30 million yrs ago, so the 60 million figure is wrong
Listen the full monty wasn't my favorite movie but it wasn't bad it's funny both Robert Carlisle
fun side note - we already have a way of saying "our + one" = ours
Prescriptive grammar is a farce propagated by the feeble minded.
The irony is anyone who actually studies grammar rather than trying to simply impose their take on grammar would already know the folly.
I thought it was but bigger
That's what she said.
Destiny is just a giant chevron
60 Million years WOULD be more accurate with existing show canon; as Atlantis itself left Earth 65 Million years ago (as seen in the pilot episode Atlantis Rising) and leaving behind the ancien woman who would later be discovered By SG-1 in season 6 when Jonas was part of the team. Of course that would make Destiny STILL newer that the Ancient City ships such as Atlantis. If destiny is 60 Million years old remember that Atlantis is still older by 5 Million Years as of the pilot. Who's to say that it wasn't already still tens or even hundreds of thousands of years old at that point. Remember the Ancients had to come TO Earth first before Leaving it 65 Million Years ago. Which begs the question...who does Destiny's newer technology look OLDER and more rudimentary than Atlantis, when Atlantis is actually older??
Featur 11 a nice ship with a good idea, run into the grund by horrible side plots.
by far my favorite Stargate series. ended 2 seasons (one at least) too soon.
the other shows were good, but this was the tone I liked. now the web series?
idk what they actually meant to do, but I hope that wasn't it. what a waste of
the talent of Connor also.
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Need that pinocchio video reuploaded to rumble or bitchute
the first movie was great. sgu was amazing dark with great character dev.... the other series i did not enjoy much. too corny
It was a pretty Fugly ship, but it had a certain character.
The ship was huge but they barely explored much of it. That alone could have been the subject of an entire season of shows.
It couldn't have been launched more than 2 million years ago because humans (or Ancients) hadn't evolved until then.
18th
And mark Addy wet great crap it split the message oh well
Totally useless ship. Has NO coffee maker...
yeah you need at least a Nespresso machine for those long trips accross the universe
but does it have a muffin button?
@@Raeinok yes but only goku can find it.
Also, glad to see we have some Expanse fans hanging around.
I don't care if he IS one of the show producers... 60 Million years is absurd. Even a million is stupid.
I get it...
When your fictional TV universe lasts for more than a decade, and keeps growing in scope, you'll end up with a lot of contradictory loose ends that you have to retcon.
But THAT was terrible. Worse than the Star Wars Parsec retcon.
The plague that forced the Ancients to escape the Milky Way galaxy and fly Atlantis to Pegasus was 5 million years ago so the Destiny is that old at least.
@@yazanmowed The Ancient abandoned Atlantis 10,000 years ago.
That was reassuring. For a moment I was beginning to think there was no hope. Yes, even a million years is long since at that point we're talking period of evolution.
@@krane15 They abandoned it in Pegasus, but they escaped the Milky Way using Atlantis 3 to 5 million years ago when the galactic plague wiped their empire. It’s in the beginning of Stargate Atlantis.
@@yazanmowed My point is, that's far too long. That would make too many mismatches with past development and present time lines. Besides, Atlantis is nowhere near that old.
Remember, 5 million years is the difference between modern humans and monkeys (OK, maybe [planet of the] apes), but all the humans in the Milky way and Pegasus all look the same. ZPMs don't last that long either.
For me the idea of show was great but actual implementation was horrible, from the beginning to the end.
Sorry, but Destiny was a bad idea (and I am not talking about the show, just the ship). I get its a long range experiment, but what was the end goal? Its been 60 million years. Even if the Ancients weren't wiped out by the Ori and then the Wraith, they wouldn't have profited from anything the ship beamed back. I am not sure if it is ever stated on the show, but we don't even know how close it is to its destination. Then, while we know the ship has definitely been under attack over the years, the ship is basically falling apart, which means its ether just was built no where near well enough to complete its mission, or its just limping along. That being said, it is one of the oldest ship's in scifi as a whole. Interesting concept, never liked the show, but the ship was definitely interesting.
It was heading to the center of the universe to study an anomaly the ancients detected
How do you build a ship to withstand the unknown? Second, didn't we send out Voyager 1 ans 2? In any event, its purpose it exploration. Remember, its seeding the universe with star gates, so eventuality future geneartions would go galaxy hopping.
If you only think about what will directly benefit you you will never be one of the great men/women.
@@DrewLSsix The point is that the ship didn't seem well prepared. Granted, it's holding up well for 60 million, but even by this time, it was clear the ancients had been in their share of interstellar wars. The ship doesn't seem to be well equiped even with the dammage and age. The ship also seems slow compared to hyperspace capable ships (although I wonder if that was by design). The ship seems less about designed for some grand generation spanning knowledge mission, and more act of desperation. I know it's from a level of tech from a period we don't see on screen outside of this show, but the entire mission just seems poorly conceived. I almost wonder if this structure at the core of the universe wasn't spotted on their trip from the Ori galaxy, and seaking it out was more an attempt to unify a demorralized, but rebuilding society than actually trying to reach its goal.
@@jhmcd2 In order to understand the structure hidden in the CBR it needed to take readings from as many varied places as possible so just hyperspacing around would be skipping a lot of readings.
The ship seems incredibly prepared to me especially if you go with the longer numbers for how long it has been going. The ship was supposed to end up manned but was not but it still is around and functioning after all those eons and who knows how many combat situations and spacial anomalies it came across. The same can be said about the seed ships sent ahead that are still pumping out star gates ahead of the destiny.
I think the reason the Destiny program fell by the wayside and never ended up manned was all the knowledge and answers they could seek with it was something they would know once they figured how to ascend so they decided to focus on that instead.
There are no good Destiny models or toys!!
I really didn't care for this ship, or the show. The tone didn't fit the Stargate franchise. A failed attempt to be bsg. Whatever Amazon does I hope it's not in this style
That's the issue with Star Trek Picard. They change it to fit the current generation, but don't gain new fans and alienate the old ones that expected a continuation of something similar to the old.
I still recall that same apprehension when they announced TNG. Thing is, Roddenberry was still around and involved, and why that show was a huge success and resulted in several spin-off and ultimately and entire franchise.
They still had the same Federation and the same values, and even brought in many of the old characters. Sadly, Nichols and Takei never crossed TNG threshold.
@@krane15 I watch new Trek. But I'm not in love with it. Major mistakes were made... Too long to list honestly. But they could have accomplished getting new fans, and keeping old ones
@@krane15 Roddenberry was a spineless hack. Nothing you think is important about trek was his work and chances are all your least favorite things were his.
STARGATE Universe sucked!
Bad show.
Destiny had great potential, but the crew were some of the most obnoxious and irritating characters ever on a TV show.
Absolutely true, but I think it's because they were never meant to be a crew. They were literally thrown together. It would have been odd if everyone had immediately conformed and become a model team of adventurers.
Who cares about Star Trek, best girls are on board the Destiny