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If mark Fergus finishes his negotiations and signs on the dotted line, we might actually get a conclusion to Stargate Universe and finally delve deeper into the Planet Builders that were introduced in Stargate Universe, Season 1.
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Stargate Universe was just getting its feet when cancelled and I loved the show. I will subscribe to the streaming service that picks up the show at that time.
Yes, but the actors are 14 years older now, the Eli character won't be 26, he'll be 40, or 42 if and when it returns. Plus the actor David Blue is like slim and fit now. So it is a fun thought but I think that it is doubtful to get a continuation. Unlikely even, which is just a crying shame.
Well Amazon owns it now. But its likely to be on there add on MGM
@@fex144 Fixable. Put the show in modern day, then show the SGU cliffhanger resolution in flashbacks peppered throughout the new show. Resolve the original show, minimize the CGI de-aging, and then make the new series about the Destiny mission findings and how the SGC is changing its purpose into turning Earth into a spacefaring civilization. Tight, clean, economical, and also tension-building by not giving away the resolution in one episode.
You can juggle the New Avalon Alliance storyline with The Builders storyline easy. Also, there's no way they haven't found the ZPM manufacturing system on Atlantis with the entire SGC exploring the city on Earth. Hell, the database would've been copied to the SGC database on Day 2.
@@biff322 IMO more like the pods are such an early design they dont stop ageing just keep people alive add on the destiny having another FTL drive blowing out at the very last iota of the trip and they end up drifting for 10 ish years then skip to the destiny 10 ish years later diving into a star to refuel in modern 4k CGI.
At this point I really don't want to have my hopes stirred, only to have them crushed again. The cancellation of SGU was a huge blow, literally just as the show had established it's characters and was getting into the meat of it's overall storyline. It's a shame that anyone with the attention span of a gnat decried the slow burn of season one, but I think that was essential in building and establishing fully fleshed-out characters we could actually emotionally invest in. If we ever get proper closure as to what happened to the Destiny and her crew that would be awesome, but until I see a trailer with a release date I'm not putting my heart in a position to be broken again...
I immensely enjoyed SGU when it came out. The change in formula for how the show worked I felt was a great change instead of usually being slightly connected from episode to episode they were all connected which made the show and universe feel more alive to me.
SGU took a little time to find its footing, but SG1 and SGA also had duff episodes early on. Unfortunately, SGU got cut off when it was just getting into its stride.
I think part of the problem is how woke it was all about everybody screw in each other’s wise and stuff. Having said that, I still watched every episode damn them for canceling it.
Same SGU was the camels back for me and how I watch TV show. Im unlikely to watch series with plot arcs unless the finale is out. TV has been in a tightening noose where producers have created a downward cycle for new shows that have to have ALL the views. Why bother getting into a show that hasn't had a finale and will just string you along only to get cancelled leaving every plot unresolved because from the get go they artificially tried spreading it out the good stuff with filler over seasons that will never even exist. Now we get
Dumb stupid background radiation message plot-arc teasing.
The best stories are slow burns. It’s necessary to get the level of detail and intimacy that make them great stories.
SGU was just getting in to its stride when it ended, that last episode was amazing.
Universe killed both shows. Body Swapping Cheating A_S Political Drama.
that last episode was the very definition of all the stargate series. it was totally beautiful.
SGU became my most favorite show and I frequently rewatch the series. When Destiny goes into the sun to recharge itself and Rush said the ship is solar powered, my brain just exploded. That level of out-of-the-box thinking is what I hope to see again if they reboot the show.
I would love to see them explore the entire Destiny and figure out how to bring the ship back to full operating capacity!
The comics are somewhat cannon, and they do explore the ship more.
That should have been a major part of the show more then it was. They were in a ship runnigg by a fluke 10percrtn it’s capability
Who knows what they would find, they could have all the parts in world to fix it and become fully operational
@@mlua02 In the comics, they did find all the spare parts to repair the ship including dozens of repair bots
@@Batalia122 Not to mention actual living Ancients onboard who were part of the engineer team that helped build the Destiny.
I could literally cry in joy if this is true.
I'm glad to see there are so many others who loved the show as much as I did.
I was too late seeing it to have been a part of helping prevent its cancelation. I thought I was going into a show everyone hated, wasn't expecting to be sad at its unfinished state.
Step back gate builders, make way for the Planet Builders. The fact that The Expanse showrunner mentioned this, tells me that he is one that pays attention to the details. I'm very excited about what he would bring to the table advancing the storylines forward.
They didn't just build the planet, they placed a ~~star system~~ in the Destiny's flight path.
What irks me is that planets aren't really efficient when it comes to providing a habitable environment. You'd get much more living space out of the material if you used it to construct something like a topopolis around a star, like in Dennis E. Taylor's "Heaven’s River". Even the star isn't necessary once you have fusion power - you could just build a few hundred trillion O'Neil cylinders and let them drift from one star system's Oort cloud to another.
That's what makes the artificial planet and its star from SGU feel like an art project to me, or a religious / cultural artefact. And that makes it even more ominous.
@@BrokenCurtain - Pretty sure these builders weren't constructing star systems and planets for themselves. It looks like they were seeding life and waiting to see what became of it. The long game... one that spans billions of years.
Note that if they built what you described, then those things would need to be constantly maintained. But if they merely drop a habitable planet in place and seed it with the beginnings of life, then they can walk away and maybe check on it every billion years or so. Sort of a cosmic experiment... a petri dish on the grand scale.
@@BrokenCurtain - PS - Men in Black... laughs as aliens flip entire galaxies around in a game of marbles.
@@BrokenCurtain The planet builders are like a version of the corporation that builds planets from hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy but the destiny crew saunter in and lay claim to a world whose function is possibly a preserve world for endangered species of limited toolmanship (what we would call animals or species that don't use tools yet) or a experiment world where species are let loose by their species's science class.
The producers have already stated that the planet builders aren't as advanced as the ancients. That tells you something.
We can only hope, and a continuation of all the other storylines introduced in SG1/SGA would be really nice. Bare minimum really. Here's to another 13 seasons. And Furlings
yes I want to see what a furling looks like for god sakes
those alien are type 6 civilization
planet creation technology
Yes! And to Jack’s son!
@@jazzk4072 You mean from "100 days"? Is it cannon that she was pregnant or that it was a son?
@@johnassal5838 hey John. It’s just my guess by way of intuition and her body language. As a teacher reading body language becomes instinctive. That actress was amazing. 😊
When they first ran the show, the one thing that came to mind was that the Ancients had ascended to survive a plague created by the Ori. The what if that came to mind was, what if they hadn't needed to ascend? What if there were ancients that went beyond the Milky Way and Pegasus and just kept advancing in the physical universe? Now, maybe we'll see what happened?
neat.
Let me say that SGU wasn’t just my favorite (and the best in my opinion) gate show, but my favorite sci-fi series of all time. I was gutted when it was prematurely given death via cancelation. I’ve never let go of that bitter feeling towards the powers that be because of it.
Make this happen. Restore my faith. I understand you might not get the whole cast back (Ming-na off being in a galaxy far far away) but so many options from recast a few to leaving them in suspended animation.
But you need Carlyle and Blue back, they were the heart of that show. Eli must return.
First season was horrible. To much melodrama and gay staff, too little sf. SGU was canceled as it started to be interesting and going back to the roots, i.e. s-f actually.
Prematurely bro? Theres like 15 years worth of stargate series.
And Col Young
@@GreyDeathVaccine ur wrong. It was great. It just didnt have the comedy and brightly lit set that SG1 and SGA had.
Different feel. Different setting. Different cast. Different look. Etc.
It took too many by surprise and not enough gave it the chance it deserved.
The writing was great, the acting top notch. The creativity and drama was there.
There was nothing wrong with SGU to deseeve cancellation. Fans were just too expectant and entitled. They wanted SGA/SGU again, but got something different.
Eli Wallace is an absolute! Despite his character development starting off kinda meh, the writers really gave him the spotlight towards middle S2, and I know he solved his cryo pod in time, I have to believe in him coming back, should the planets line up and all the details get hammered out just right. Oh, and Grier needs to stay, too. He balances out Young and Rush, in a Daniel Jackson sorta way.
I loved SGU, i was pissed when it was cancelled. I hate when they cancel shows with no conclusion to them. I would love to see what they do with the Planet Builders, we can only hope Amazon gets their head out of their you know what and get SGU concluded and get other story lines that were never answered completed as well as a great new show or shows.
Honestly. Fk Amazon. They are just as bad as Syfy. 3 books left to go in the expanse, and they just end it? Bleh.
Amazon's track record as late has been complete and utter horse shit.
SGU was about exploring the serious, wild, contemplative "meaning of existence" stuff that we always wanted to. That's why I liked it. For me, it kind of re-established the wonder that was lost from the original movie by SG1 and SGA. They were good, but SGU made me feel like a kid again.
Not only was star gate universe the best stargate show but it also introduced me to some great music I had never heard before at the end of every episode. It would be good to see another season.
I REALLLY need this in my life...
Dude. Yes and yes! I loved SGU. I know it was a huge departure from what we got used to but i enjoyed it especially once it got really going Once it found its footing it was fantastic. Sadly it got cancelled. I just want Stargate back. Scratch that good stargate! Let's go!
id love to see more of these artifacts they found along the way being explored in more detail
There are clearly limits, since the human husks or golems they had created of the stay-behind crew didn't live very long. I suppose that may have been intentional, but that seems very odd. And for all we know these are the mysterious Furlings or even some offshoot of the Asgard that took some other kind of ascension path or something.
A continuation of Universe would definitely get my attention.
I never got into SG1 much, Atlantis I liked better, particularly the darker episodes, but Universe always stood out to me.
Must be the grimy tone, I suppose 🙂
I liked Strgate Universe. As different as it was, and clearly influenced by the BSG Reboot, SGU ws really inventive in new stories and threats you didn't know how they would get out of. I was very disappointed when we didn't get a 3rd season or more. I was stunned by the conflict between Rush and the Cmdr., but more stunned when Rush got back and was not banished again. This was very risky drama, but it worked (and Robert Carlisle is a terrific actor, so believable as this complicated guy who doesn't think he's a villain, but keeps pushing.) I would love to see more of SGU, SG1, and SGA, a continuation and update of these for a 4th new series, not a reboot.
Yes, Rush character was great, also well acted.
It was death by shaky cam. You arent supposed to shake a baby.
I would be very happy for a conclusion to SGU. I know a ton of fans hate it. I loved every episode
Same
Thanks for keeping Stargate: Universe alive! Really liked it when it came out even though it had a totally different tone than the original series.
I loved the concept of a signal or pattern in the cosmic background radiation. The idea that something had constructed the universe or triggered the big bang inspires much mystery. It's a shame we never got to find out more.
Yes!!!
I was so gutted when it ended. It git really good in second.
Finally. So good news.
Thank you for the great work and video.
Perhaps ancients were the planet builders, or some rogue ascended ancient wanting to help the crew finish the mission. The moments just before the last guy (cant remember his name) died, It showed a bright white light but didn't show the source. Reminded me of anytime the ascended ancients made an appearance to human form then returned back to pure energy. That being said, I do think that a new super powerful alien race would provide more interesting stories to attract new audiences.
I agree I think the ancients could be there cheering their descendants on to find the answers they were looking for
A bright white light and a wavy signal that was identical to the signal from the beginning of time. It's almost like Destiny was a very apt name for that particular ship.
@@thomasbarca9297 I'm inclined to think (just my head cannon) the entire story arc of SG/1/A/U/+ is the ascended ancients quietly allying with the Tauri to fix all their mistakes essentially.
They appear to have been the original source of the replicators both in Pegasus and Milky Way as it was most likely an Ancient who'd returned from Pegasus that created Reese who then adapted her tech to create the block type replicators. Then inexplicably despite everything else being picked bare when SG1 arrived they see Reese perfectly preserved or perhaps recently restored and left for them to find...
Or look at when they went looking for a possible Ori supergate only to instead stumble on the "Son of Anubis" Kalek _just_ when it would help them counter the priors with what they learned while *also* cleaning up after Anubis. 🤔
Clearly by then the writers had decided to make the ex machina an integral part of the in universe story and taking ownership of the idea that things like Jackson finding that quantum mirror and learning the address the Goauld were launching their attack from was more than just luck or plot armor.
But we can take it further. For instance there must be multiple reasons for the Ascended ancients need for plausible deniability. In the Ori conflict it be something like a treaty obligation. Adria was largely only doing what Merlin had done 1000 years earlier but with the Ori backing her up the "Others" couldn't do much...directly. If they had been more open then it would've freed the Ori to act more directly in the MW too. This would explain a lot and even open up other angles.
Look at Red Sky when they accidentally make that Asgard protected planet's sun go red and almost kills everyone. The episode implies that the last ditch 1% attempt by the SGC failed so it must've been the Asgard using that effort as a pretext to step in... Only what it it was the Ascended instead and it was to indirectly send a message to the Asgard. Those greys aren't dumb it it was probably clear to them that something must've been up as soon as O'Niell was surprisingly able to access the ancients knowledge if unconsciously. Then them calling their ships O'Niell and Jackson (which is quite weird if you think about it) wasn't just in appreciation for help but to send a nod and a wink at the Ancients themselves.
It's not long after that the Asgard suddenly exit while gifting the Tauri *everything* they had. I don't think that's coincidence AND I don't think they actually killed themselves. By then it's clear the ancients have some agenda playing out with the Tauri that involved exposing the Agard to the Ori, the only faction as powerful or more frightening than the ancients. Plus the biggest existential threat in the history of the Asgard before that turned out to be a byproduct of a toy made by Reese in turn made by the ancients. I mean even ten thousand years after they ascended the Asgard were still living in the shadow of the ancients and getting there butts kicked because of it.
So being wicked smart they decide to emulate the way the early ancient "Altairans" left their home and went *way* off. But first they make sure the Ascended don't have any further need of them by handing everything they had (but that the ascended couldn't simply _give_ ) to the Tauri.
The fun part is that you can even trace it all back to when the ancients were first starting to ascend every so often back before Atlantis or Destiny was sent out. If the Planet Builders are basically the Biggest Bad of the SG multiverse then everything the Ascended did after realizing they were trouble could've been in preparation to deal with them. In the case of SGU that means once again using the Tauri (with at least common beniffit) to approach the threat like they did when cleaning up the mess they allowed to arise with the Goauld, the replicators, wraith and even the Ori.
I'm not so sure we can credibly imagine a culture more powerful than the ascended as they are just not so flashy as to build planets for no reason. They did "just happen" to create a black hole just to lure SG1 to discover Kalek tho...
Yeah I always figured it was the ancients or some other class 3 or 4 race.
Consider this. We saw a rouge group of Asguard in Pegasus living separate from the home world. Why couldn't the planet builders be a rouge group of Ancients who split off for the Pegasus group to avoid the Wraith and not keeping to the no interference policies of the Ancients who returned to Earth before ascending. The Ori didn't know about life in the Milky Way until Daniel & Valla connected to some people in the Ori galaxy. Then again here's another twist. We were told that we were the second iteration of human life after the Ancients. What if like they say in BSG "it happened before it will happen again". Maybe we are the 3rd Human race and the Planet Builders created the Anterran"s before they became the Ancients.
I loved SGU there were so many new stories that could have been told going from one galaxy to another. Would love to see it come back.
I just recently finished my third re-watch of SGU and I enjoy it more each time I watch it, and feel that pain each time it ends.
It retained the important elements of the previous shows while going off in a different direction, which I loved.
The Planet Builders were fascinating, the other alien races, Destiny's mission... there was so much there.
I console myself with recently finding both seasons remastered on bluray and it looks amazing.
Considering that Oma managed to save (for at least a few hours) Abydos after Anubis destroyed it, I'd say beings similar to the ancients might be able to create a new star system.
It's very possible that the Abydos experienced by SG-1 wasn't there at all. It was like the diner in which Daniel, Oma and Anubis debated ascension, a metaphysical representation of something rather than a real tangible physical place. This Abydos was there for Skaara to talk to SG-1 only, it vanished the moment that was done.
We don't know that Anubis destroyed the entire planet either, it would seem much more plausible that he just wiped out everything on its surface. Which would leave an intact planet with no stargate or people.
If this is the case then all Oma and her followers would have had to do was to create something the Stargate on Earth could dial to, and which could dial back to Earth. The rest of what SG-1 saw probably only happened inside their heads, like the diner or the SGC gate room from Meridian when Daniel debated ascension with Oma.
In short, you cannot use the Abydos scenes from Full Circle to argue the ascended can create planets or as a case of it, given that it can be adequately explained by their ability to create and sustain metaphysical locations detached from physical space on numerous occasions.
Besides it was hinted at by mirrdon that constructions of a planet was possible as an ascended being but that it wasn’t a task that one can do alone
Also thinking about the idea of the replicators and how they had not completely eaten the planet in the Pegasus galaxy but used it to thrive and remain stationary with the dgalaxies progression, of a race of ascended replicators exists then that could easily make a star given the knowledge of how and the ability or sheer strength needed to actually do it. Plus replicators have shown that over vast time they can shed their destructive nature
Nothing will ever reach the quality and whismical joy that Stargate SG1 brought me.
They are more than planet builders. They are Star Builders.
Stargate Universe had huge potential! Those Drones would make formidable adversaries!
Interesting , Thank You . I really miss stargate sg1 , Star gate Atlantice and Universe . So glad for Dvd
We already know that there's more than even the ascended ancients. Remember, there's still the mystery of the signal embedded in the CMB. If they restart the series, I want the series finale to be the answer to that mystery.
SGU finding a signal in the Big Bang static was brilliant.
I like the idea of Stargate Universe being in another galaxy, that is a new set of rules to have any story you may want. Plus I really liked the characters in Universe, hope to at least see Eli and Rush back, that was a good combo, not so much the HR chick and the commander.
I think it would be awesome to explore more into the planet builder thread while creating a conclusion for SGU. I absolutely loved the alien dynamic of ancient advanced technology like the communication stones and the star ships themselves. Even if it's just at conceptual stage, I'm excited.
Thank s for video man🤗🤗🤗
Traveling from one side of the galaxy to even another galaxy was possible. The Ancients had a experimental wormhole drive which the Atlantis expedition used to travel from Pegasus to Earth. Given that this was an extremely advanced piece of tech and even just an experiment, shows how advanced the Planet Builders really are (not saying that they used the same method, just showing that it's cutting edge tech).
Just to add, following your definitions of rebout/revival, it could still be with new characters. I would imagine that it would be quite difficult to get the cast back together (schedules can be like that) so I think a new set of characters, with a limited set of original characters would be the more plausible choice. They could even do the new characters just gating to the destiny and completing their mission with noone left behind (perhaps only some kino recordings).
And YES, I'm very excited to see a conclusion to the SGU storyline or new Stargate shows.
Interesting to know that Magrathea could be tied into the star gate universe.
Also, Destiny was built to find the secret pattern of the universe that the ancients had become aware of, so planet building is a logical part of that.
SGU was the first and only time I managed to get my parents into a sci-fi show when I was growing up. They were just as gutted as me when we learned it had been cancelled. I'd be so happy to get a continuation of what I thought was the best SG show.
Same for my brothers and several friends.
Stargate Universe is by far the easiest gate show to get new people to watch and then actually hook them to it's self and subsequently the Stargate franchise as a whole.
Thanks for the heads up interesting story line and what I think is good news 👍
That would be awesome! 😊👍
I have always said that SGU was a story that wasn't finished. And like SGA the story is not finished. And they are still talking. I find it unbelievable. So many stories to tell. I have started watching SGA again and after that i am going to watch SGU.
All we need is a cannon script or book and publish it. That's all we need.
The problem of SGU was it was that it did not feel like star gate, so it had trouble capturing its core audience.
Watching it again later, I find it to be an amazing show. It was just to much of a departure being that close to sg1.
SG-U seemed like the natural inheritor of Space: 1999's tone and stories. They're quite similar in their basic concept, but Universe updated the idea, making the fictional science more believable. But the plot discussed in this video could easily be an episode of Space: 1999
Speaking of ascended plane, it is also possible that there are not different levels, but that there are just different spaces of it. For example, Ancients and Ori were in different galaxies, and the Ori destroying weapon killed only them, meaning that they must be somehow limited by space and in how far they can actually go or even see (otherwise Ori would know of Ancients). It is possible that Planet Builders are only ascended, but in their galaxy. Similarly powerful now to Ancients or Ori, but before ascension they were more powerful than both.
I'd always questioned whether or not the guy Janus from SG: Atlantis that built the time ship had any knowledge of the Destiny program and if he'd somehow tapped into in before Atlantis was attacked by the Wraith or possibly when they'd evacuated to earth (or whatever planet the time traveling puddle jumper was left on. I can't remember them ever explaining why that puddle jumper was left abandoned. Anyway, I believe he was the one who also experimented with Ascension, but in order to do amazing features without being detected by others, he probably would've needed to use something like the Prometheus to go so far out of range and maybe flex the max limits of Ascended powers to build the planet and star. The fact that another copy of the jump ship just magically appeared meant SOMEONE was watching and willing to intercede, but wasn't subject to the Ascended council's punishment. Then again, they only punished based on interference with sentient beings. Doing stuff on an uninhabited planet so far away from any life (and so far in the past) that it may not have even boded notice by them. If Janus used time travel to find out aspects from the future, including his own fate, he could've pursued different paths for self preservation, which may have also included cloning AND it's also possible that a different Janus from the parallel universe we saw McKay utilize in the 2nd to last episode of Atlantis may have come to this universe too. We've seen at least 3 or 4 crossover devices. This means technically you could've had both an Ascended Janus and a human Janus existing within the same time frame. One could face off against the other and tell/guide him to get the hell outta dodge and setup a lab elsewhere. He could've even used the Quantum Mirror to find a universe where the Ancients never Ascended and would've been able to continue his research unimpeded. So many of the human's interesting encounters could've been setup by him.
I think that puddle jumper ended up on that planet where Maybourne was pretending to be a "king", then SG1 stored it somewhere until Daniel discovered there was a ZPM in ancient Egypt and used it to go back and get it. At that point, it was discovered in the "Mobius strip" timeline and later flown by the alternate Jackson & Carter and ended up in Egypt again.
It took me a few episodes to get into SGU, but by the end I was genuinely sad it ended just as it felt like it was finding itself.
As an aside, the idea that creating a star or planet is more advanced than intergalactic travel almost instantaneously (as the Asgard were shown to do) is not true. The physics are broadly understand whereas FTL comms / travel is not. Also, who is to say they created the star and planet? Perhaps they "just" moved it, again a technique that could be done by a civilisation much less advanced that the 4 races are capable of showing.
It's way more impressive that they can move quickly and bring people back from the dead for a limited amount of time.
It's also difficult to compare the Ancients especially. They deliberately hold back. Who is to say what they could do if unleashed? I don't like the idea of having another spiritual non-corporeal being. Perhaps though we could have a similar situation to a Fallen Empire in Stellaris, perhaps these are technological monsters who created a paradise planet for whatever reason. They found some trespassers and dealt with them nicely.
You could also explore the idea that the planet is an anchor point between different Universes, perhaps that is why it wasn't there before? I've always been a bit skeptical about control of parallel universes because honestly it's totally broken as a power if you could harness and deploy an infinite number of resources from different universes, but it could explain both the aliens power as well as things like why the planet wasn't there when the seed ships went through but the planet isn't a ball of lava. We've not really had a multi-universe power before in SG, could be interesting how that plays out. Multiple universes is well established as a concept too, everything from mirrors to busted hyperspeed drives were shown to make travel between them possible.
Lastly, the whole mission of Destiny was because of a detection of something in the background radiation of the universe. Since then, Roger Penrose's work who was likely the inspiration for this, has continued to be respected and debated. It should be possible to detect traces of previous universes in our reality. Maybe these aliens are billions years old and have seen multiple big bangs, and the planet is some sort of museum piece to their original planet. Again though, they would be so obscenely overpowered that I'm not even sure how you manage that, short of having some sort of minimal interference doctrine similar to the Ancients.
Absolutely I’d freaking love to see SGU continue, and I bet a whole lot of dedicated SG fans would also . The Expanse is literally the only good sci fi we’ve had since SGU ended
After a decade holding out, finally watched Universe last year 2022 and it was amazing actually. Diff but very worthy and done well. People acted a lot more real and how it would normally happen. The body switch scene where they’re having sex was laughably shocking the first time but that’s exactly what would happen. Many things were excellent and engaging. Sad that it was canceled on a cliffhanger.
"Don't do that."
"What?"
"Give me hope."
IHMO for SG is to close other threads that need to be closed from the plot side:
1 SG1: Furlings,
2. SGA: Wraith,
3.SGU:cosmic background radiation.
When it comes to making planets, we already have replicators.
When it comes to transferring energy from one place to the next: communication stones, wormhole drive.
If I remember well Oma said to Daniel that ascenssion was just the begining of the journey (or it was the people on the episode "epiphany" who told that to Sheppard maybe)
00:16 the Wraith and the Goa’uld (think I spelt it right? No?) are both technically advanced civilisations too. They’re technology helped the human in the show boost their own technological development. I know they’re the “bad guys” but they’re still very advanced.
Also in SG1 it's firmly concluded in a few episodes that there is multiple higher dimensions. Several other episodes also suggest as much.
The builders were fascinating to me, I'd like to see that fleshed out as a main arc.
I really hope a new series keeps everything that happened that before and starts a few years after the Destiny mission but back at earth/Cheyenne HQ. Carter should return as General with a new SG1 crew.
Like your comments Matt, Yes I agree that STU are just touching the story lines for adventures.
The world builders sound very much like the pak in Larry Nevins ringworld it would be so cool to see such an advanced race like them.
die hard Stargate fan here: watched many episodes of Universe - science, mind boggling, unenjoyable stories, unenjoyable cinematography, unenjoyable characters. Tried hard to manage to like it. It's like another genre. Despite gates it doesn't resemble anything Stargate. One knows ingredients of one's favorite dish. Can exotic ingredients make the same dish taste like the favorite one...or worse, like inedible ?
Would be nice to get a continuation of Stargate Universe but too much time might have passed. Most of the actors may not even be available or care to return. Would have been nice to get more in depth on the so called planet builders, or even on the original mission of the Destiny. Lots of plot points to explore. Been hearing about us getting more Stargate for so many years, lets see if they come up with ANYTHING at this point.
Don't say anything! That is how we got those Stargate Origins: Catherine webisodes
The cryo tubes are pretty old.easy ti explain aging actors, or missing ones. Perhaps they stayed in stasis and it took earth until now to redial. This time the actual team and supplies come through. The end team could go looking for the old one and revive them. Eli should be a part of the ship now tho. Like his solution to the broken pod was to upload himself to the ships computer.
I think SGU has a lot more stories they could tell; not so much for SG1 or Atlantis (okay maybe Atlantis) but SG1 had pretty much exhausted the stories it could tell, unless other civilizations came out of other quadrants of the galaxy (think: Gamma quadrant or Delta quadrant in Star Trek). But SGU had a whole UNIVERSE of stories to tell!
Great Video! I surely hope that they do something with Stargate Universe. That was my favorite series. My next favorite one was Atlantis. I always thought that we would figure out the point to point travel using Atlantis. And then move Atlantis through space to the point where the destiny is. At that point we can get all those people home and put the people that should be on destiny on the ship and continue its mission.
These planet builders to me, are the makers of the galaxies
I think they create the sun and the planets and they get them ready, and when they’re ready to be populated, they transport the entire solar system that they created to a new spot in the universe.
I think they came back to the planet and were like who are these people and why are they here
We did not intend this planet to be for these people and we need to send them back
And that’s what happened to them
They basically did not want them to pollute the planet that they created for whoever
I don’t know, I think those beings may be too far above our spectrum to be able to communicate with
They may be like the aliens in the Prometheus movie. Those 9 foot tall beings did not want to have anything to do with us.
Honestly unless it is a continuation by Brad Wright and the cast. I don't want any answers. Them being in life pods together drifting slowly between galaxies until they awaken or don't long after I'm dead is a fine. A simple, then they got the answers and returned home isn't an SGU style storyline. It would be an SGA style deus ex machina pulled out of their asses at the last minute storyline. The "mission" in SGU was never about going home and it was never about the destination, it was about the journey. Anything else but Brad's five year plan is a big fat nope.
Trek, Wars and Gate. I want my trilogy back on TV at the same time.
I adored SGU, like I mean i've adored the entire franchise, but SGU had something I can't quite put my finger on or word that just endears it to me a bit more? like SG-1 will always be N1 in my heart cuz it started it all and I literally grew up on watching it with my dad on tv, Dad/Daughter time lmao cartoons and sci-fi. I love Atlantis and I've seen it through a few times, but SGU just.. had me in a different way and I'd be soooo delighted if it came back, and ya - them builders were interesting.. would also be nice if the crew could hook up with another Ring Seeder but not sure how that would work considering what was established about them.
It's a interesting premise , but what if assention is more of a branching path, civilization gets the choice to assend or keep existing in the physical realm, getting more technologically advanced as time goes on.
Another thing to consider is that maybe the planet and star weren't created as sutch but rather moved , they have teleportation technology way above our understanding , so maybe they can move that mass , take a solar system that might not survive (decaying orbit of another planet) and move a sun and planet to a different location saving them from destruction?
Regardless more Star Gate is always a good thing and I am subtly excited as we've heard rumours of new SG for over a decade .... Now
We definitely need to know more about the crew.
Destiny was in the next galaxy when the shuttle reappeared.
I always thought of that planet as a hallucinogenic, holographic, or simulated planet. There was that brief scene when the inhabitants were doing well and cabins "appeared", contradicting the story when the shuttle returned them to the Destiny.
In the story, the people who were left behind, stayed in the shuttle. They died.
They did not have the skills needed, to repair the shuttle, or understand how to stay warm.
Please, Dont tease me now..... SGU was my favorite SG series and one of my favorite shows ever.
Moving a ship from one galaxy to another instantly. That's the wormhole drive used by Atlantis in the final episode.
i would love for more stargate episodes to be made loved all of the 3 series
It doesn't matter what I think, it only matters what they think.... but I am intrigued.
I would LOVE! this!
I want to see the fleet that left the planet from the alternative timeline where the crew traveled back in time, repare, upgrade, and upcrew the accent vessel.
The world builders need to remain a total mystery
One of the most compelling stories ever... let to rot in obscurity.
I really hope they do something with this storyline.
#MoreStargate!
Imagine an offshoot of the ealry Atlanteans. A group of Sentient, advanced beings that are soley interested in technology. not ascension. While the Ancients and their Ori counterparts were bickering among themselves, this group had broken away long ages prior. Gone their own way so long ago in history they were an ancient story to both of those earliest of those peoples.
Becoming Planet builders, on a pathway totally unlike those of the ANcient or the Ori. Not confined to a Galaxy, but free to influence entire clusters of Galaxies, Planets and Stars.
Makes me very excited about the possibilities.
I would like to see a continuation of the Star Gate Universe.
I want to see Stargate "New Horizons" a show where we get a conclusion to Universe, some closure for Atlantis, see some returning characters as well as some new characters. The biggest issue though is the amount of time that has passed, if you filmed in 2024 (best case), 18 years for SG-1, 16 years for Atlantis, 14 years for Universe since final season was filmed. Getting casts back would not be straightforward.
It’d be be cool to see a race of beings that can control ascension. For example being able to ascend and the “descend?” At will.
I was just starting to be hopeful then I remembered every single perversion that already established universes have suffered lately, it is impossible for us to get something that is respectful to what came before.
Presently I'm rewatching SGU on Hulu. I revisted this story line last week. But with the state of Hollowood (even Canadian Hollywood) I dont hold out much hope.
You know, in the comicbook conclusion/follow-up, they encountered another planet with an obelisk, found some ancients in another part of the ship, activated repair drones to fix the ship, and had some more adventures.
Be great if they made episodes from those, I'd watch.
Since the time of the 4 great races, the Asgard progressed to the point of having technology rivaling that of the Ancients. The Nox stagnated. What if the Furling continued to develop well beyond the achievements of the other three and they became the Planet Builders?
Nah... they probably extinct.
An interesting thing about the cliffhanger ending that ended the show is that it's easy to account for the time shift. The communication with earth would have to end, but I wouldn't miss that terribly. I'd rather move the should forward.
0:13 I thought he would mention the Furlings before mentioning the planet builders but hey, maybe he will make a connection.
SGU should resume where it left off. It would be great to see super advanced Ancients as the star & planet builders and to find out what Destiny will ultimately find when it reaches its destination.
Would really like to revisit SGU but the way it ended pissed me off to no end.
Of course we knew all along... its the *Furlings* 🐼🐨🐻🐻❄ (paws for effect)
The Planet Builders were always higher dimensional beings to me. Like they are looking down onto the 3rd dimension where we exist, which explains how they could transport the lost destiny crew thousands of light years instantly - they pulled them through the 4th (or higher) dimension.
I was thinking the same way. Similar to what we saw in the movie Interstellar.
SGU was the first time i had seen an internet meme acknowledged on a show
one of them had Dragostea Din Tei on their ipod
I also want to know who created that obelisk and who fixed their shuttle and returned them to the ship.
SGU got the firefly treatment, sadly
I would very much like to see Stargate Universe continue on from where it left off. I would also like to see Stargate Atlantis continue where it left off although to a slightly lesser degree.
i was so mad when they canceled the series! i would just die to see it continue!!
There was a fan theory that stated SG1 represented the 4 races: Jack was Ancients, Daniel was Nox, Sam was Asgard, and Teal'c was Furling. If a continuation is on, I truly hope they don't go the convenient route of saying the world builders are the Furlings. I loved that fan theory, since it would mean the Furlings are more warrior-like. Though, if they became the antagonists against the world builders and Destiny is caught in the conflict, now that'd be awesome. Creators vs Destroyers.
All the actors are older now, and the characters won't be, because they were in suspended animation all of this time. Would they recast everyone or have some malfunction with the suspension chamber so that everyone aged while under?
Please, God, I hope SGU returns 🙏
It was and still is my favourite sci-fi show ever. So original, bold, great characters and the most jaw droppingly awesome ship ever conceived. I miss it, I love it, I need it back.
The planet builders are strange in that they advanced but didn't ascend ...
Maybe like the Asgard they couldn't ascend, but unlike the Asgard the same issue didn't cause them to die out ... and they kept progressing technologically
I would love to see them continue Stargate universe. Of course I'll only believe it once it's been completed and has an release date.
A big part of the problem with SGU was the fact that the then Sci-Fi channel kept bouncing it around the schedule. As soon as folks started adjusting to the new air date/time (I remember it going from Tuesday to Thursday at one point) they'd change it again. Also keep in mind streaming services were still pretty new then and in general most metrics weren't kept save for viewers when the show was aired so by todays standards the ratings were probably much higher than originally reported. All that being said, I loved where the show was going when it got cancelled but the fact of the matter is I doubt we'll see that level of writing/commitment to the project again.