At the rate of how many they built by 2010 their could be about 16 now in 2021 unless they change models or 9 billion is to much for an intergalactic spaceship
I was going to mention this myself. I believe they started on the class right after the Asgard upgraded the Prometheus in S6 integrating the tech in the design from the start.
The George Hammond was originally called the Phoenix, but was renamed after Hammond died of a heart attack. It was a tribute to the actor who played the role.
Odyssey class* Odyssey first ship BC-304 CLASS!!!. The first ship is BC-304 Odyssey SG-1. Then BC-304 Daedalus SGA. Then BC-304 Apolon SGA. And Then General Hamond SGA SGU.
@@VLASYARA Daedalus is explicitly referred to by McKay as the "sister ship of the Daedalus". This means the two ships were constructed in tandem, making Daedalus the namesake of the class.
@@vinaypatel94 That's what made the series (plural) so fun. You got to see humanity slowly progress all the way from 1990s tech to an intergalactic power. With lots of episodes dedicated to how little pieces of alien tech were incorporated into the ships and fighters (not always successfully).
The Wraith quickly adapt to the Asgard transporter and use jamming fields to interdict them. McKay later realizes that the reason they adapted so quickly is because the Vanir (a less moral offshoot of the Asgard) used the same trick with them, so the solution was already in place
Thank you! I always wondered how they came up with a solution so quickly, and now I know. Now I'm wondering if it was planned ahead of time by the writers, or a convenient bit of world building they were able to add later through the Vanir story arc? Though it does work together really well either way.
@@dragonsword7370 The Ancients never had beaming tech, they had transporter rings, they might been inspired by the rings, but beaming is different, trust me, I took a PhD in this.... I didn't
@@cdsr16 I think its Fanny that the vanir are the less Moral ones, while in the norse mythologie they are based off, the asgard are the more aggressive and warlike of the two.
I love this ship. It's OP as hell, a god-tier ship that could easily wipe put a fleet of Hatak ships by the end of the series, yet it's all earned, built up slowly over 10 series, all the technology it has and uses, all the alterations and improvements on previous designs. Easily the Daedelus class is the best ship in all of sci-fi.
@@valravnsshadow9422 lol yea this guy drank waaaaay too much of the koolaid. Bruh... just keep it to 2 servings per hour and you'll be ok next time lol.
It's certainly up there. This thing could absolutely wreck any ship in the Star Trek universe, and could probably do the same to the Star Wars universe.
@@ICU1337 you say that, but technically, Daedalus class ships are essentially the human version of Asgard ships at this point. But with other tech they gathered plus earth tech. It would go to to toe with an O’neill class ship. The only real difference being the size and maybe what it’s made out of. Which they could technically replicate because the Asgard left them literally everything. That’s not hyperbole. They left them all their knowledge
@@yoboyrob201 the Asgards had all of the knowledge of the Ancients. They still didnt even scratch the surface of Ancient technology though. For a more relatable example. I could give you a nuke, the instructions and manuals and knowledge to make a nuke, and you still wouldnt be able to make a nuke if say, you were a caveman. I feel like Star Trek/Wars use so much plot armor in their space fights that its impossible to say. ST makes "science and exploratory" ships yet there they are whooping the Borgs, Klingons, Romulans, and Dominions ass 🤷🏽♂️ SW how the Empire loses fights with their ISD I and II's is beyond me. Big ole ISD gets taken out by accidental kamikaze 🤷🏽♂️ But while I dont think they're THE most powerful spaceship in all of SciFi, I certainly do agree they make it into that top 10 list discussion and at the very least, if not, an honorable mention!
The pineapple is a recurring joke in Stargate, for some reason the producers love to put pineapples everywhere, they even joked about it in the 100th episode 'Wormhole X-Treme'.
@@norm3380 cancel the build of an aircraft carrier you mean? Yeah, easy to understand why they would choose to build a space capable battlecruiser that doubles as a carrier to boot,instead of an ocean bound carrier.
@@dont_taze_a_bloody_gas_main No I mean hide the cost in an existing project. DOD does it all the time. You seriously think the F35 really costs that much? So why not double the cost of an aircraft carrier, to siphon the funds to build a spacecraft if stargate. They get to blame the ship yard and the public buys the story.
@Pat Fenis I know that Installation00 is trying to do that with tech from the HALO series. Maybe we can get him or one of his friends to do the same with Stargate tech...
@@Predator42ID Yeah, I loved that they named a ship after the General. Made sense that they had his character pass away in canon once the actor also passed. Having Sam captain that ship was just extra awesome.
The George Hammond also attacked the other Icarus planet in SGU in an attempt to stop the Lucian Alliance from boarding the Destiny which is another entirely amazing series. Also RIP Colonel Chekov, you were a badass.
You guys did a pretty good job. Though I would like to point out that the Daedalus was completed and started making runs to Atlantis before the Prometheus was destroyed.
Yeah, that's right. Prometheus was destroyed in the ninth season of Sg1, which ran parallel with Atlantis season 2. Daedalus was introduced at the beginning of that season (Siege - part 3).
I wish they do more of SG1, Atlantis or even SGU and they show us a ship, either Daedalus class or a new class, that integrates some of the Anciet weapons and technology from Atlantis and the Pegasus galaxy. With the Daedalus class we have a blend of Ancient and Asgardian technology which represents 2 of the Four Races. The Nox won't share their technology and the Furlings have seemingly went extinct then the Tauri which are almost the 5th race all from the Milky way Galaxy so next would be to add the technology of the Ancients. (Editted to change Goa'uld to Ancient)
@@JosephDawson1986 I kinda wanted to see the Tau Ri battlecruisers start firing Ancient drones at enemy ships at the same time as teleporting nukes into the enemy vessels and firing the Asgard beam weapons. All of this using copied puddle jumper drones as fighters to create a nightmare for basically anyone who opposes them.
@@Zachomara same here. Heck one battle cruiser could wipe out the Goa'uld and free the Jaffa and the Tok'ra could start screening symbiotes for Goa'uld and not let them implant in a host but all Tok'ra to have hosts.
The Apollo and Daedelus team up with 6 Wraith Hives, 12 Travelers, and 1 Aurora on their attack on the Asurans. My absolute favorite scenes with the Daedelus class ship.
I always wondered why they didn't beam crews onto the asurans ships once they were ripped out of them. The humans could have had a fleet of brand new ancient battle ships. That part never made sense that they didn't even try.
@@Phil-rs5wl Firstly, they probably didn't have enough time to take over a ship. It was literally a few minutes from when the Asuran ships went derelict to when the planet blew up. Second, I don't think there was enough crew on either the Daedelus and Apollo to take many, or any ships. Let alone the fact the Ancient gene requires to man each ship I think was limited to mostly the Atlantis crew. I don't think anyone in the USAF which made up most of the crew on both ships, got the gene therapy since they were Earth-bound where things like the Geneva convention prevented this.
@@HeadlessChickenTO but the wraith had enough time to beam down to surface and steal a full compliment of zpms to power a super hive. Seems like more time to do that then beam to a ship and engage hyperdrive
"Perhaps they had the DVD of Star Trek: Voyager in their library." That would probably be a good bet actually, at least in an alternate universe in Stargate Atlantis they had Star Trek: The Experience in Las Vegas lol
I have a old star trek game where that was a option in battle. It even had a option of transporting across something that would harm the occupants allowing you to capture the ship. Maybe it was their training simulation pack. "Due to budgetary constraints, your training will be using this game, good luck".
Jack: "They did not approve it" Cater: "The mission?" Jack: "No thats fine, they did not approve the name" Cater: "But sir ... we cannot call it Enterprise" Jack: "But why not?" (rephrased a bit)
They're not dead though, sort of. As they were all clones, clones of which humanity still has access to given the fact the Asgardians gave humanity all their knowledge.
@@Zantides they could make the clones yes but the clones don't have a conscience. When the asgard switched bodies their conscience was downloaded to a computer and then put into the new body. All the asgard died none of them downloaded their conscience into the asgard core that we know of.
? Multiple BC304s were already built before the Prometheus met its end at Tegalus. The Daedalus was already operational and if I recall correctly the Odyssey was rushed into service following the destruction of Prometheus. But the destruction of Prometheus didn't spur the project on.
The Pineapple that episode was probabley directed by David Warry-smith he has at least one pineapple in every show he directs (I think it was David that had the pineapple fettish) it wasn't Martin Wood, he put himself in it as "Major Wood" and Peter Deluise normaily has a brief case in his shows, RIP Cliff Simon!
Actually you missed the battle in orbit of the replicator planet in the episode "Be all my sins remembered" (battle of asuras), the mission to the ori galaxy in the movie arc of truth and the battle in "No man's land" with the Orion against the two hive ships
The Orion was such a cool freakin ship. Every time we got to see a Lantean battlecruiser it got shortly destroyed each time. Im still irritated that during the Battle of Asuras they didn't beam down teams to the planet to gather ZPMs, and then to the Asuran battlecruisers to commandeer them.
@@jasonbond4591 At least after the power grid was down. I would have to rewatch the episode but I'm quite sure they discussed the possibility to get some ZPMs. Well at least the Wraith had the idea 😅 But yes, I also like Lantean ship design, as well as Asgard ships 🥰
The Daedalus is also 1/2 the length of the Battlestar Galactica. Something to bring up given the Daedalus is also a hybrid Battleship spacecraft carrier, a Battlecarrier.
That ship is perfect had the profile and function of a low grade Battlestar. the length and bridge layout of the enterprise. And some sweet asgard and goauld tech to power it. All this and more.
I'm pretty sure they can replicate what ever they need on the daedalus. It was one of the perks of the asgard technology they had installed, amoung doing things lile being able to stop time it could also create air food and water out of energy for the ships crew.
the deadlus class was originaly an upgrade of the prometheus, it became a seprerat class later on, but both classes existed simultaniously, the diference is that they focussed on building more 304 as they were much better than the 303
You didn't mention the time dialation field from Season 10 episode 20. That was an entire episode on the Odyssey. It was also a good one because it showed some out of the box technology on the Asgard retrofitted ships
“Daedalus-class ships have no replicators onboard.” _That awkward moment when an Asgard replicator-like device is used to build an insect Replicator Queen on a Daedalus-class ship..._
Yes, but this was another thing that was added by the Asgard before they all died. As the ships were initially built, they didn't have that technology.
@@UGNAvalon Well, it's really just a modification to the beaming technology. But they also don't really use it. I'm guessing that it's a power hog or they just don't feel the need.
@@FrozenShepard No, it's because they don't have a full grasp of the technology yet. Keep in mind they had thousands of years of technological knowledge gifted to them, plus all the Ancient tech on Atlantis. For all the cool stuff the 304s could do, keep in mind aside from the new Asgard weapons, those ships couldn't hold a candle to an O'Neill class warship. Plus, the moment anyone says replicator, guns get drawn and bullets start flying. Actually that could lead to a very comical moment if a Tau'ri ended up in the Trek universe.
Star Trek is actually referenced a lot within Stargate lore. The Asgard transporters they call "Beaming", in the first episode of SG1 one of the soldiers who goes back to Abydos salutes Daniel with a Vulcan salute, Jack wanted the Prometheus to be called the Enterprise, and when accidentally sent to the past and Jack was being interrogated he said he was "Captain James T. Kirk of the Starship Enterprise." So you may not be off, they actually could have a copy of the series onboard XD There's also a Star Wars reference that cracks me up. Jack and Teal'c visits Carter, and Teal'c (wearing a cowboy outfit XD!) with a happy smile confirms that he'd watched the movies 9 times and really likes them. Sam then asks Jack if he never watched Star Wars, and he just shrugs and says "Well you know me and scifi".
also after Vala become pregnant without you know what, she asked if they heard about something similar, Carter was ready to say Jesus probably, but Tealc was faster and said Darth Vader
Deadalus class battlecruisers......one of my favorite all time sci fi ships. They were the culmination of how a sci fi show does things right. 10 seasons of SG1 gating to other planets and gaining new technology. Eventually able to take that tech and build ships with it. Every piece of tech that the Prometheus and Deadalus is comprised of can be traced back throughout the show. Amazing! Plus, it just looks bad ass and has bad ass weapons and shields. The Deadalus class is what I'd want real life interstellar capable ships to look like if we could build them.
Pineapple trivia: A pineapple appears somewhere in every episode that was directed by Will Waring. It was his signature. If you look for it, you'll see it throughout SG-1, sometimes cleverly placed.
Must be embarassing if your a director with a visual signature and that scene you put it in just happens to be the one that has to be cut for time/flow.
You are right. Both the Daedalus class and the Ori ships are made for war. As such, both have powerfull weaponry and strong shields, so the federation will just get hard yeeted by these ships, as they are exploration vessels
The Federation has FTL weaponry and achieves FTL inside normal space. The Ori and SGC can't even hit them with their light speed and less weapons as they aren't equipped to fight normal space FTL ships. They can't even detect the photon torpedoes fired at them.
@@Scanner9631 Ori would be just snap their ascended fingers and ended any federation ship instantly, with their own energy. Just like one ascended ancient did it with wraith ships in SGA. Or would kill all crew in short notice. Daedalos class would use their plasma beam weapons, which are superheatet plasma formed in narrow beam, designed for overloading even the most durable shields and then imediattely burn through hull. And thats their basic state. If ZPM is conected to the ship systems, all its energy output is litterarly tremendously multiplied. ZPM is energy source and is the most powerfull energy source known to exist there. It can be used for opening intergalactic wormhole. So the power output is absolutelly immense.
In a hypothetical Milky-Way vs Milky Way fight, at first, yes. But the Federation is very adaptable, and far from beyond stealing tech in times of war. They also have 1/4 of the galaxy's resources at hand, and a much larger, educated, technologically advance population from which to not only pool resources, but to innovate solutions. The SGU is barley branching out beyond earth, most humans exist in pre-tech civilizations, and they are still recovering from several galaxy wide events that ended in the destruction of, and/or limiting of off world allies and resources from which to draw. While your ten selected ships could launch a devastating attack on one or two locations, the Federation's weaker, but vastly larger number of ships could attack a hundred(or more) targets at once, only coming to together for select raids, and splitting up as soon as the mission failed. There is no way your 10 ships could keep up with, or hunt down the thousands of Federation ships. They would be relegated to protecting maybe 3 key systems, and some limited supply convoys. As soon as the Federation figured out the tech used, and adapted it to their own ships, and built new ships with that tech at the core, the SGU would be toast.
Love it Ben! Such a win for Earth when they finally got these ships after many seasons of them trying (but often failing) to acquire better technology.
3:40 correction, once the Asgard gave all their knowledge and upgraded the ship with the plasma beam weapons, another piece of tech was the central computer core, which had a peripheral device which was highly analogous to if not the same outright concept as a Star Trek replicator...
Really good video GF! I have always loved Stargate and glad to see more content about it. The size of the Daedalus has always been a source of frustration for me, but have to agree with your assessment. Hope to see more of these videos in the future. :)
Spoiler for the Atlantis Finale: The Wraith hive gets taken out by yet another one in a _long_ list of Sheppard's suicide missions. The guy is like a frickin' cat.
greatest sci fi ships ever, I love the launch of the horizon weapon and following it down to the planet, the battle with the wraith and travellers against the asurans is great and of course just generally dunking on the wraith, also thanks for not spoiling a 12yr old sci fi series for us sci fi nerds that have been calling for stargate content :P , oohhh I almost forgot blowing up a wraith hive and ori ship at the same time with the super gate a truly classic and original strategy
"They can't just replicate food." Except they did in Unending using Asgard technology when the Odyssey was trapped in a time dilation bubble for decades.
I think you have the info wrong on the construction start of the daedalus class it was show at the end of season 8 of sg1 and was active for a year before the prometheus got destroyed
Odyssey class* Odyssey first ship BC-304 CLASS!!!. The first ship is BC-304 Odyssey SG-1. Then BC-304 Daedalus SGA. Then BC-304 Apolon SGA. And Then General Hamond SGA SGU.
i'd say iron mans suit is better but vaders force powers would be more effective against iron man. I'm pretty sure vaders suit was even designed to be intentionally dysfunctional by palpatine to more or less keep vader under control by giving him outdated equipment. I think even greviouses armor was more advanced than vaders.
My favorite moment of the Daedalus was project aucturus episode !! When Caldwell saved Sheppard and McKay!!! That for me was an epic moment for the ship!! “Make a break for the Stargate we’ll run interference… stand by to engage sub light engine on my mark!!”
After the first episode of Universe, I felt that the SGC had missed an oppotunity with the Apollo. Personally I think she should have been named the Jacob Carter. With the Hammond following her up. It would have been a great tribute to Jacob/Selmak.
Definitely one of my favorites ships. You did fail to mention one of its major capabilities being it's cloaking device that allows attacks to pass harmlessly through the ship. I'd put a fully loaded 304 up against anything star fleet had.
It’s funny cuz starfleet is technically as a society, more advanced. But because the SGC basically got thousands of years of upgrades, they’d beat basically anybody in Star Trek. There may be a few super advanced races that aren’t really part of the main cast of aliens that would be a problem. Also not counting future timeline in discovery, cuz that’s just not fair.
With the shows consistency and how well it carries on the lore I am very excited to see how in universe the Stargate program has evolved since we last left off universe. In 10 years there must have been some serious advancement in the cooperation of the Chinese Russians and Americans and it’ll be cool to see how the Human tactics have evolved since we left off.
As a rule of thumb in gaming, loved the way the traveller game series gave towards designing one's own ships and small craft. Planetary landing craft were limited by allowed parameters ingame.
a bit late but id like to add that Sun Tsu was completed before the Hammond. In the last episode of Atlantis, Carter mentions that her next assignment was to take command of the Hammond, and the Sun Tsu was, like you said, with Apollo in engaging the superhive. The pilot episodes for SGU happened after SGA ended.
SMALL CORRECTION: The first Daedalus ship was completed before the destruction of Prometheus, but the program was ramped up after the incident.
At the rate of how many they built by 2010 their could be about 16 now in 2021 unless they change models or 9 billion is to much for an intergalactic spaceship
Price in case of minimal corruption?
I was just about to comment this the moment I heard it
Lmao I was about to say that the Daedalus were a direct improvements to the BC-303
I was going to mention this myself. I believe they started on the class right after the Asgard upgraded the Prometheus in S6 integrating the tech in the design from the start.
7 billion dollars for a deep space battle cruiser?? That’s a bloody steal!!
Ikr that sounded super cheap for what it was doing XD
Most of the parts were stolen or gifted though and there's inflation to account for, sg1 is about 20 years old now, or something.
@@manchannel7003 The daedalus was built from 2004 to 2005.
That's where "or something" applies. Its still 16 years ago.
Ish.
$7 Billion?!
A real life aircraft carrier from US navy costs $13 Billion
You can easily quadruple that for the Daedalus
You say "that series featuring aquaman"
I say aquaman features Ronon!
Actually, when he is in that one ship and gets attacked. You can clearly see the same fighting style he used when fighting wraith.
Thank you....
YES
Who is this aquaman you speak of?
Haha same
The George Hammond was originally called the Phoenix, but was renamed after Hammond died of a heart attack. It was a tribute to the actor who played the role.
Odyssey class* Odyssey first ship BC-304 CLASS!!!. The first ship is BC-304 Odyssey SG-1. Then BC-304 Daedalus SGA. Then BC-304 Apolon SGA. And Then General Hamond SGA SGU.
@@VLASYARA Nope Deadalus came first.
@@VLASYARA Daedalus was first. That's why the class is named DAEDALUS. Doy you got it?
@@VLASYARA there is no Odyssey Class
It is Daedalus class, code name BC-304.
@@VLASYARA Daedalus is explicitly referred to by McKay as the "sister ship of the Daedalus". This means the two ships were constructed in tandem, making Daedalus the namesake of the class.
Seeing the daudalus with Asgard tech for the first time is one of my favorite moments in sci fi
we came so far, from being trigger happy idiots with nukes to players on an intergalactic scale
@@vinaypatel94 That's what made the series (plural) so fun. You got to see humanity slowly progress all the way from 1990s tech to an intergalactic power. With lots of episodes dedicated to how little pieces of alien tech were incorporated into the ships and fighters (not always successfully).
Thanks for not spoiling the fact that the death star comes out of hyperspace and kills the wraith hive before being attacked by a borg cube
Crazy when the Cylons EMP'd the Borg cube.
@@JaredLS10 or when the autobots showed up to fight the daleks
Then the Replicators show up because Q isn't entertained enough.
Bruh! Give a spoiler alert!
Or when the heart of gold turned the wraith hive into a petunia while they were distracted by dark helmet sucking the wraith out with his huge vacuum.
The Wraith quickly adapt to the Asgard transporter and use jamming fields to interdict them. McKay later realizes that the reason they adapted so quickly is because the Vanir (a less moral offshoot of the Asgard) used the same trick with them, so the solution was already in place
Thank you! I always wondered how they came up with a solution so quickly, and now I know. Now I'm wondering if it was planned ahead of time by the writers, or a convenient bit of world building they were able to add later through the Vanir story arc? Though it does work together really well either way.
I thought it was because Asgard tech was based off of Ancient tech. Older transporter tech sure but still?
@@dragonsword7370 I don’t think it was ever stated that it was like that
@@dragonsword7370 The Ancients never had beaming tech, they had transporter rings, they might been inspired by the rings, but beaming is different, trust me, I took a PhD in this....
I didn't
@@cdsr16 I think its Fanny that the vanir are the less Moral ones, while in the norse mythologie they are based off, the asgard are the more aggressive and warlike of the two.
I love this ship. It's OP as hell, a god-tier ship that could easily wipe put a fleet of Hatak ships by the end of the series, yet it's all earned, built up slowly over 10 series, all the technology it has and uses, all the alterations and improvements on previous designs. Easily the Daedelus class is the best ship in all of sci-fi.
It'd get absolutely shit on an O'neill class Asgard warship, so no it isn't the best.
@@valravnsshadow9422 lol yea this guy drank waaaaay too much of the koolaid.
Bruh... just keep it to 2 servings per hour and you'll be ok next time lol.
It's certainly up there. This thing could absolutely wreck any ship in the Star Trek universe, and could probably do the same to the Star Wars universe.
@@ICU1337 you say that, but technically, Daedalus class ships are essentially the human version of Asgard ships at this point. But with other tech they gathered plus earth tech. It would go to to toe with an O’neill class ship. The only real difference being the size and maybe what it’s made out of. Which they could technically replicate because the Asgard left them literally everything. That’s not hyperbole. They left them all their knowledge
@@yoboyrob201 the Asgards had all of the knowledge of the Ancients. They still didnt even scratch the surface of Ancient technology though.
For a more relatable example. I could give you a nuke, the instructions and manuals and knowledge to make a nuke, and you still wouldnt be able to make a nuke if say, you were a caveman.
I feel like Star Trek/Wars use so much plot armor in their space fights that its impossible to say. ST makes "science and exploratory" ships yet there they are whooping the Borgs, Klingons, Romulans, and Dominions ass 🤷🏽♂️ SW how the Empire loses fights with their ISD I and II's is beyond me. Big ole ISD gets taken out by accidental kamikaze 🤷🏽♂️
But while I dont think they're THE most powerful spaceship in all of SciFi, I certainly do agree they make it into that top 10 list discussion and at the very least, if not, an honorable mention!
My favorite moment in the history of the BC series was Jack O’Neil’s disappointment for the name of the 303…
It was a Greek tragedy
Why couldn’t they call it enterprise 😁👍
WAIT WHAT!?
< sounds of research >
Yeah, okay, you’re right, @Stardust Neo Shadow Vulcanus Nova Alteisen…
It's O'Neill with two Ls! (Sorry couldn't resist)
If the USN had a 304, it ABSOLUTELY would have been USS Enterprise.
The pineapple is a recurring joke in Stargate, for some reason the producers love to put pineapples everywhere, they even joked about it in the 100th episode 'Wormhole X-Treme'.
What's the joke?
@@Hammerhead137 It's a director's trademark. like the blue gello seen in some episodes.
@@ruiromao5726 I WAS ABOUT TO MENTION THE WHIPPED TOPPED JELLO IN MARTINI GLASSES!
@@ruiromao5726
Or like Abrams’ Red Balls.
Can'tsay I'd ever noticed the pineapple thing - apart from the space pineapple in the fruit basket for Carter when she took over running Atlantis.....
“Each ship costs 7 billion dollars”
Ok, that’s half the price of the newest US Navy aircraft carrier 😅😅
Wow.
USA aircraft carriers are more expensive than a freaking interstellar battlecruiser......
Now you know where they are getting the money for the Daedalus.
@@norm3380 cancel the build of an aircraft carrier you mean?
Yeah, easy to understand why they would choose to build a space capable battlecruiser that doubles as a carrier to boot,instead of an ocean bound carrier.
@@dont_taze_a_bloody_gas_main No I mean hide the cost in an existing project. DOD does it all the time. You seriously think the F35 really costs that much? So why not double the cost of an aircraft carrier, to siphon the funds to build a spacecraft if stargate. They get to blame the ship yard and the public buys the story.
Price in case of minimal corruption?
Cannot wait to get my PhD in fictional ships after all these vids
It's a lifetime of study
@@GenerationFilms thanks to you it’s easier !
@@GenerationFilms wow
@Pat Fenis first of all your name is good, and then, I cannot wait for that either !!
@Pat Fenis I know that Installation00 is trying to do that with tech from the HALO series. Maybe we can get him or one of his friends to do the same with Stargate tech...
This ship was a huge pay-off for long-time fans watching them scrape and claw for this tech with setbacks all the time.
The WHole shoe was a great evelution of Humans using alien tech to eventually use it to build massive battlecrusiers
Favorite daedalus moment was the real world realization that the george hammond is named so because the irl actor died.
RIP, Don S Davis.
@@Predator42ID Yeah, I loved that they named a ship after the General. Made sense that they had his character pass away in canon once the actor also passed. Having Sam captain that ship was just extra awesome.
The George Hammond also attacked the other Icarus planet in SGU in an attempt to stop the Lucian Alliance from boarding the Destiny which is another entirely amazing series.
Also RIP Colonel Chekov, you were a badass.
You guys did a pretty good job. Though I would like to point out that the Daedalus was completed and started making runs to Atlantis before the Prometheus was destroyed.
I remember thinking at the time why would they even send the Prometheus. Shouldn't they retire it? Turns out...
Yeah, that's right. Prometheus was destroyed in the ninth season of Sg1, which ran parallel with Atlantis season 2. Daedalus was introduced at the beginning of that season (Siege - part 3).
The Daedalus is one seriously bad ass ship... and with Asgard tech it can play the part too.
I wish they do more of SG1, Atlantis or even SGU and they show us a ship, either Daedalus class or a new class, that integrates some of the Anciet weapons and technology from Atlantis and the Pegasus galaxy. With the Daedalus class we have a blend of Ancient and Asgardian technology which represents 2 of the Four Races. The Nox won't share their technology and the Furlings have seemingly went extinct then the Tauri which are almost the 5th race all from the Milky way Galaxy so next would be to add the technology of the Ancients.
(Editted to change Goa'uld to Ancient)
@@JosephDawson1986 I kinda wanted to see the Tau Ri battlecruisers start firing Ancient drones at enemy ships at the same time as teleporting nukes into the enemy vessels and firing the Asgard beam weapons. All of this using copied puddle jumper drones as fighters to create a nightmare for basically anyone who opposes them.
@@Zachomara same here. Heck one battle cruiser could wipe out the Goa'uld and free the Jaffa and the Tok'ra could start screening symbiotes for Goa'uld and not let them implant in a host but all Tok'ra to have hosts.
@@JosephDawson1986
FYI: the Goa’uld were not of the Four Races, of which were the Asgard, the Nox, the Furlings, and the Ancients.
@@retalus yeah I saw I said Goa'uld. I meant the Ancients. The four races were the Ancients, the Asgard, the Nox and the furlings
The Apollo and Daedelus team up with 6 Wraith Hives, 12 Travelers, and 1 Aurora on their attack on the Asurans. My absolute favorite scenes with the Daedelus class ship.
The Apollo and Daedelus team up with 6 Wraith Hives, 12 Travelers, 1 Aurora.... and a partridge in a pear tree...
Actually that’s for a later attack.
I always wondered why they didn't beam crews onto the asurans ships once they were ripped out of them. The humans could have had a fleet of brand new ancient battle ships. That part never made sense that they didn't even try.
@@Phil-rs5wl
Firstly, they probably didn't have enough time to take over a ship. It was literally a few minutes from when the Asuran ships went derelict to when the planet blew up. Second, I don't think there was enough crew on either the Daedelus and Apollo to take many, or any ships. Let alone the fact the Ancient gene requires to man each ship I think was limited to mostly the Atlantis crew. I don't think anyone in the USAF which made up most of the crew on both ships, got the gene therapy since they were Earth-bound where things like the Geneva convention prevented this.
@@HeadlessChickenTO but the wraith had enough time to beam down to surface and steal a full compliment of zpms to power a super hive. Seems like more time to do that then beam to a ship and engage hyperdrive
"Perhaps they had the DVD of Star Trek: Voyager in their library."
That would probably be a good bet actually, at least in an alternate universe in Stargate Atlantis they had Star Trek: The Experience in Las Vegas lol
I have a old star trek game where that was a option in battle. It even had a option of transporting across something that would harm the occupants allowing you to capture the ship. Maybe it was their training simulation pack.
"Due to budgetary constraints, your training will be using this game, good luck".
also, once O'Neill lied during interogation and said he is captain Kirk
Jack: "They did not approve it"
Cater: "The mission?"
Jack: "No thats fine, they did not approve the name"
Cater: "But sir ... we cannot call it Enterprise"
Jack: "But why not?"
(rephrased a bit)
@@patrikmodrovsky1842 "Okay, seriously. My name is ACtually Luke Skywalker." 'interrogator - "Get him OUT of HERE!"
Wasn't there one episode where Shepard and Ronin were watching an episode of BSG on TV???
R.I.P Thor and the rest of the asgard
They're not dead though, sort of. As they were all clones, clones of which humanity still has access to given the fact the Asgardians gave humanity all their knowledge.
There’s also that offshoot of the Asgard called the Vanir in the Pegasus Galaxy
The best Thor.
They should make a show about the asgard to honor their legacy.
@@Zantides they could make the clones yes but the clones don't have a conscience. When the asgard switched bodies their conscience was downloaded to a computer and then put into the new body. All the asgard died none of them downloaded their conscience into the asgard core that we know of.
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Multiple BC304s were already built before the Prometheus met its end at Tegalus. The Daedalus was already operational and if I recall correctly the Odyssey was rushed into service following the destruction of Prometheus. But the destruction of Prometheus didn't spur the project on.
The Pineapple that episode was probabley directed by David Warry-smith he has at least one pineapple in every show he directs (I think it was David that had the pineapple fettish) it wasn't Martin Wood, he put himself in it as "Major Wood" and Peter Deluise normaily has a brief case in his shows, RIP Cliff Simon!
Martin Wood's cameos always have him working on something with Sgt. Siler and a huge wrench.
that was Will Waring
@@CrAsHBon right
Always love to see a Stargate video.
Actually you missed the battle in orbit of the replicator planet in the episode "Be all my sins remembered" (battle of asuras), the mission to the ori galaxy in the movie arc of truth and the battle in "No man's land" with the Orion against the two hive ships
The Orion was such a cool freakin ship. Every time we got to see a Lantean battlecruiser it got shortly destroyed each time. Im still irritated that during the Battle of Asuras they didn't beam down teams to the planet to gather ZPMs, and then to the Asuran battlecruisers to commandeer them.
@@jasonbond4591 At least after the power grid was down. I would have to rewatch the episode but I'm quite sure they discussed the possibility to get some ZPMs. Well at least the Wraith had the idea 😅
But yes, I also like Lantean ship design, as well as Asgard ships 🥰
One of my favourite starships. It looks like something that we would actually build. Practical, functional - beautiful in its bluntness.
They also now have Replicator on board to make whatever they need. Seen in StarGate Arc of Truth
I had to scroll too far down for this. It was installed by the Aasgard in the last episode of SG1
Now they can make synthehol and party all night like teenagers drinking non alcoholic champagne and pretending to be drunk.
It also seems that their food has taste unlike replicated
I MISS STARGATE !!!!!!!!!! RESPECT MY STARGATE !
The Daedalus is also 1/2 the length of the Battlestar Galactica. Something to bring up given the Daedalus is also a hybrid Battleship spacecraft carrier, a Battlecarrier.
That ship is perfect had the profile and function of a low grade Battlestar. the length and bridge layout of the enterprise. And some sweet asgard and goauld tech to power it. All this and more.
I'm pretty sure they can replicate what ever they need on the daedalus. It was one of the perks of the asgard technology they had installed, amoung doing things lile being able to stop time it could also create air food and water out of energy for the ships crew.
It was Odyssey actually, and if I remember correctly they need ZPM for some of the more extreme features
@@muhammadarifbillah984 Well they did it for some 50 years.
the deadlus class was originaly an upgrade of the prometheus, it became a seprerat class later on, but both classes existed simultaniously, the diference is that they focussed on building more 304 as they were much better than the 303
Daedalus Variations is one of my favorite episodes
You didn't mention the time dialation field from Season 10 episode 20. That was an entire episode on the Odyssey. It was also a good one because it showed some out of the box technology on the Asgard retrofitted ships
I always forget that they literally have time dialation tech on the ship
We need more stargate!
“Daedalus-class ships have no replicators onboard.”
_That awkward moment when an Asgard replicator-like device is used to build an insect Replicator Queen on a Daedalus-class ship..._
I mean he just skipped over Ark of Truth entirely so I guess that doesn't count?
Yes, but this was another thing that was added by the Asgard before they all died. As the ships were initially built, they didn't have that technology.
@@FrozenShepard So he mentions Asgard weapons/hyperdrive/shields/datacore, but not the Asgard replicator that came with? ok then. :/
@@UGNAvalon Well, it's really just a modification to the beaming technology. But they also don't really use it. I'm guessing that it's a power hog or they just don't feel the need.
@@FrozenShepard No, it's because they don't have a full grasp of the technology yet. Keep in mind they had thousands of years of technological knowledge gifted to them, plus all the Ancient tech on Atlantis.
For all the cool stuff the 304s could do, keep in mind aside from the new Asgard weapons, those ships couldn't hold a candle to an O'Neill class warship.
Plus, the moment anyone says replicator, guns get drawn and bullets start flying.
Actually that could lead to a very comical moment if a Tau'ri ended up in the Trek universe.
Star Trek is actually referenced a lot within Stargate lore. The Asgard transporters they call "Beaming", in the first episode of SG1 one of the soldiers who goes back to Abydos salutes Daniel with a Vulcan salute, Jack wanted the Prometheus to be called the Enterprise, and when accidentally sent to the past and Jack was being interrogated he said he was "Captain James T. Kirk of the Starship Enterprise." So you may not be off, they actually could have a copy of the series onboard XD
There's also a Star Wars reference that cracks me up. Jack and Teal'c visits Carter, and Teal'c (wearing a cowboy outfit XD!) with a happy smile confirms that he'd watched the movies 9 times and really likes them. Sam then asks Jack if he never watched Star Wars, and he just shrugs and says "Well you know me and scifi".
also after Vala become pregnant without you know what, she asked if they heard about something similar, Carter was ready to say Jesus probably, but Tealc was faster and said Darth Vader
@@patrikmodrovsky1842 Haha, I forgot about that XD!
That was a weird episode to watch as a kid.
There's also where Mitchell was in Command of the Odyssey in The Ark of Truth, he sat in the command chair and said "Make it go" :)
I really hope that Netflix gets the rest of the Stargate series
That would be epic
I'd watch a reboot for damn sure
@@lieutenant_dan27lt.d45 I wouldn't mind a reboot but really I just want the rest of the series on Netflix
Or, y'know, any of them (outside the US).
@ Seriously, it's truly remarkable the steps one needs to take to watch a good series these days when not in the US.
it's been years... I have to rewatch these series again
My fav scene is when the Ori(flame) ship gets destroyed by asgards plasma beam weps mounted on daedalus cruiser, that was lit
Yeah you missed something: T’Pol in the list of Trek cameos! :)
Riak’s wife
And Trip.
@@aofjaysjayofas8378
That wasn’t a cameo, he was a main/secondary character for quite a while.
The "transport the nuke into the enemy ship: trick also worked in the 1994 movie. Maybe all officers know the O'Neil Manuever.
O’Niel, that guy has no sense of humor.
Deadalus class battlecruisers......one of my favorite all time sci fi ships. They were the culmination of how a sci fi show does things right. 10 seasons of SG1 gating to other planets and gaining new technology. Eventually able to take that tech and build ships with it. Every piece of tech that the Prometheus and Deadalus is comprised of can be traced back throughout the show. Amazing!
Plus, it just looks bad ass and has bad ass weapons and shields. The Deadalus class is what I'd want real life interstellar capable ships to look like if we could build them.
Pineapple trivia: A pineapple appears somewhere in every episode that was directed by Will Waring. It was his signature. If you look for it, you'll see it throughout SG-1, sometimes cleverly placed.
Omg, that is so random, I will be on the lookout, thanks
Must be embarassing if your a director with a visual signature and that scene you put it in just happens to be the one that has to be cut for time/flow.
Had fun -as always. Keep up the good work.
Six Daedalus ships and four Ori ships could decimate the Federation.
There, I’ve said it. Go.
You are right. Both the Daedalus class and the Ori ships are made for war. As such, both have powerfull weaponry and strong shields, so the federation will just get hard yeeted by these ships, as they are exploration vessels
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Not to mention federation ships are made of explodium.
The Federation has FTL weaponry and achieves FTL inside normal space. The Ori and SGC can't even hit them with their light speed and less weapons as they aren't equipped to fight normal space FTL ships. They can't even detect the photon torpedoes fired at them.
@@Scanner9631 Ori would be just snap their ascended fingers and ended any federation ship instantly, with their own energy. Just like one ascended ancient did it with wraith ships in SGA. Or would kill all crew in short notice.
Daedalos class would use their plasma beam weapons, which are superheatet plasma formed in narrow beam, designed for overloading even the most durable shields and then imediattely burn through hull. And thats their basic state. If ZPM is conected to the ship systems, all its energy output is litterarly tremendously multiplied. ZPM is energy source and is the most powerfull energy source known to exist there. It can be used for opening intergalactic wormhole. So the power output is absolutelly immense.
In a hypothetical Milky-Way vs Milky Way fight, at first, yes. But the Federation is very adaptable, and far from beyond stealing tech in times of war. They also have 1/4 of the galaxy's resources at hand, and a much larger, educated, technologically advance population from which to not only pool resources, but to innovate solutions.
The SGU is barley branching out beyond earth, most humans exist in pre-tech civilizations, and they are still recovering from several galaxy wide events that ended in the destruction of, and/or limiting of off world allies and resources from which to draw.
While your ten selected ships could launch a devastating attack on one or two locations, the Federation's weaker, but vastly larger number of ships could attack a hundred(or more) targets at once, only coming to together for select raids, and splitting up as soon as the mission failed.
There is no way your 10 ships could keep up with, or hunt down the thousands of Federation ships. They would be relegated to protecting maybe 3 key systems, and some limited supply convoys.
As soon as the Federation figured out the tech used, and adapted it to their own ships, and built new ships with that tech at the core, the SGU would be toast.
Love it Ben! Such a win for Earth when they finally got these ships after many seasons of them trying (but often failing) to acquire better technology.
Chekov: "This is Commander Chekov. What's the situation?"
"This is Col Chekov, It's time to ROLL OUT!"
I have all the SG DVD’s. Haven’t watched them in 15 years. Much more fun to watch SG content here!
3:40 correction, once the Asgard gave all their knowledge and upgraded the ship with the plasma beam weapons, another piece of tech was the central computer core, which had a peripheral device which was highly analogous to if not the same outright concept as a Star Trek replicator...
Which was then used to build a Stargate Replicator.... 😱
Really good video GF! I have always loved Stargate and glad to see more content about it. The size of the Daedalus has always been a source of frustration for me, but have to agree with your assessment. Hope to see more of these videos in the future. :)
SGA Colonel scene is the best
The design of this Battle Cruiser Is fantastic...i Hope One day they really Will made It!
Spoiler for the Atlantis Finale:
The Wraith hive gets taken out by yet another one in a _long_ list of Sheppard's suicide missions. The guy is like a frickin' cat.
greatest sci fi ships ever, I love the launch of the horizon weapon and following it down to the planet, the battle with the wraith and travellers against the asurans is great and of course just generally dunking on the wraith, also thanks for not spoiling a 12yr old sci fi series for us sci fi nerds that have been calling for stargate content :P , oohhh I almost forgot blowing up a wraith hive and ori ship at the same time with the super gate a truly classic and original strategy
You forgot to mention their most powerful ability: plot shielding. Never failing completely until the threat is averted :)
Except the Prometheus, which failed completely every time it was used.
You started covering Stargate content right after I got back into the show. You have my subscription, sir.
Before he was Aquaman. He was Space Conan
Cool to see Stargate getting more attention recently!
"They can't just replicate food."
Except they did in Unending using Asgard technology when the Odyssey was trapped in a time dilation bubble for decades.
Sadly that knowledge was lost when they reverse time and even if Teal'c knew how to do that he swore to himself not to tell anyone what happened.
This is my favourite sci-fi ship!
I think you have the info wrong on the construction start of the daedalus class it was show at the end of season 8 of sg1 and was active for a year before the prometheus got destroyed
That is what I was thinking as well.
been waiting for this great vid guys the daedalus is my favourite stargate ship
Odyssey class* Odyssey first ship BC-304 CLASS!!!. The first ship is BC-304 Odyssey SG-1. Then BC-304 Daedalus SGA. Then BC-304 Apolon SGA. And Then General Hamond SGA SGU.
The BC-304 is my favourite ship of all science fiction (with the 2003 Galactica in second and the Defiant from DS9 in third). Glad to see it here ! ^^
How would the ironman suit go in the starwars universe
That is actually a funny idea for a video, Iron Man VS Darth Vader, Who's Suit is better?
i'd say iron mans suit is better but vaders force powers would be more effective against iron man.
I'm pretty sure vaders suit was even designed to be intentionally dysfunctional by palpatine to more or less keep vader under control by giving him outdated equipment. I think even greviouses armor was more advanced than vaders.
@@GiRR007 Imagine what kind of suit Ironman could have given Darth Vader had he designed it.
@@GenerationFilms cool
My favorite moment of the Daedalus was project aucturus episode !! When Caldwell saved Sheppard and McKay!!! That for me was an epic moment for the ship!!
“Make a break for the Stargate we’ll run interference… stand by to engage sub light engine on my mark!!”
Thank you. More Stargate!
Woo! I've been waiting for this.
I'm a simple person, I see StarGate content, I like
For me out of ALL ships in science fiction the Daedalus class are my top pick period. I really like the design.
Thank you for not ruining the ending!
After the first episode of Universe, I felt that the SGC had missed an oppotunity with the Apollo. Personally I think she should have been named the Jacob Carter. With the Hammond following her up. It would have been a great tribute to Jacob/Selmak.
Great series. Love they were upgrading the tech starting very low profile in the first season.
Noticeable improvement. Well done
That thing can more than take on anything the Federation can throw at it
YAY! Stargate love! Thanks!
Great little piece of SG1 snippits
YES! THANK YOU, thumbs up for addressing its ACTUAL size.
Fav sci-fi ship ever. Just gorgeous.
6:19 that was one of the best sfx sequences on the whole of Stargate
The references to star trek were hilarious!
Definitely one of my favorites ships. You did fail to mention one of its major capabilities being it's cloaking device that allows attacks to pass harmlessly through the ship. I'd put a fully loaded 304 up against anything star fleet had.
It’s funny cuz starfleet is technically as a society, more advanced. But because the SGC basically got thousands of years of upgrades, they’d beat basically anybody in Star Trek. There may be a few super advanced races that aren’t really part of the main cast of aliens that would be a problem. Also not counting future timeline in discovery, cuz that’s just not fair.
With the shows consistency and how well it carries on the lore I am very excited to see how in universe the Stargate program has evolved since we last left off universe. In 10 years there must have been some serious advancement in the cooperation of the Chinese Russians and Americans and it’ll be cool to see how the Human tactics have evolved since we left off.
Concise... well done.
Always a pleasure to see you do some Stargate! Thank you! And it is well accurate that the Deadalus-class is 650 meters.
Yes!! More stargate!! :D
As a rule of thumb in gaming, loved the way the traveller game series gave towards designing one's own ships and small craft. Planetary landing craft were limited by allowed parameters ingame.
Alternate reality shenanigans and solar flare deflecting of SGA, Cloaking and the replicator from SG-1
I love it when Stargate goes “pew pew pew!”
The Daedalus class battle cruiser is my favorite SciFi vessel from any franchise.
I love this ship. It's among my favourite Sci-fi ships. I really want one of these as a personal luxury yacht.
One of my favorite ships in any sci-fi franchise!
a bit late but id like to add that Sun Tsu was completed before the Hammond. In the last episode of Atlantis, Carter mentions that her next assignment was to take command of the Hammond, and the Sun Tsu was, like you said, with Apollo in engaging the superhive. The pilot episodes for SGU happened after SGA ended.
My favorite Daedalus moment was "Major, please make that ship go away".
Really like the stargate ships, definitely look like something the military would actually build, no weird design.
amazing !!!
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I love it when discount David Tennant talks Stargate at me.
"You know what else is that size?"...that's right, its big enough to boldly go where no man has gone before.
The battle between Daedalus and Enterprise would be epic.
My all time favorite ship design