It's just that for this price class you'll get better products. As for smartphones it doesn't matter since smartphones are all basically the same device. Give or take features
Better products where? A Sony e-ink tablet of the same size is already $600 on it own, and I doubt that you can find a $400 laptop that is as good as the laptop part of this.
Exactly. I paid 1000 bucks for the Surface Go + keyboard + pen and the Go (8 GB version) was so slow in comparison to my old Chromebook so I returned the Go.
@@swekiwi4517 why would you get the go? for that amount of money you'll get the pro 4 used with top specs. Just look for someone who didn't use it much or who kept it in perfect condition.
Very biased video, as several people here in the comment section pointed out. For phones it's ok a 1000 $ price, but for this innovative device it's too expensive? It's probably the first time in 5 years that a new device is so exciting.
If been using the first gen Yoga book for almost a year now and I'm really happy with it. I'm mainly using it while being at the Uni/during Lectures and it's perfect for that.
I'm not sure who this pleasant young lady was who conducted this review of the device, but it's the first time I'm seeing her on TH-cam and she is very pleasant and she speakswith wonderful enunciation and is easy to follow. I really like her, a very pleasant review. As far as this device I went ahead and just purchased one and I'm already seeing the incredible benefits of its portability and it's multiple functions. Definitely a niche device, but if you're willing to spend the money it's well worth it and so far I'm very pleased. Thanks for the great video and have a good day.
I was a late adopter of the original yoga book but find that I really like it. Often with small devices that have tactile keyboards the keys are too small and cramped making typing a nightmare. Even though the yoga book doesn't have a real keyboard I find I can type a lot faster on it. One glitch I run into is if I haven't typed anything in a while and then I start again the first letter doesn't register. Another issue I'm having is that downloading and updating apps from the android play store has a weird delay and often I end up with an error code 927 that it just could download. A reboot fixes this briefly, but it's a pain to have to reboot the device every time I want to update or install an app. I'm cautiously excited about the C930, and considering that they plan to release a 3rd version, it seems logical to wait until that version comes out just so the price of the C930 will drop. One another thing I've noticed is that I cannot find any support from Lenovo for the yoga book. When I try to contact their support and enter my device model number a message shows saying the device is not supported. The only place I can go for help is their community forum page... which isn't really a help since I need Lenovo to push a software update out to patch some bugs... especially the bug with the play store.
The original yoga book didn't fade into disaster land... but the 2018 version is pretty nice to work with. The only thing I dislike is the shift key on the left.
I have an OG Yoga Book and I love it. I use it everyday and it works beautifully. I have the Android version and with SwiftKey, the Halo keyboard is wonderful. Also, nice repetition in the edit re: Epub files.
This looks like a really good productivity tool. I’m intrigued by the e-ink. The third gen would be very interesting, or maybe I’ll hope for a price drop once that comes out.
Worse thing about the original wasn't the keyboard, I used it to edit a book. It was the sleep/resume problem and as well as the tendency to lose wifi until you reboot.
@2:44 They should include epub format? @2:50 They should include epub format? - How does a channel like Engadget miss something like this? Did literally NO ONE watch this before going live?
It has some cool features but why did they cripple it with only 4GB ram? It could have been much more usable. E-ink and pen is cool but it's not $1000 cool when I still need something with more ram than normal in laptops 10 years ago.
I barely used my keyboard so I really don't mind, hopefully the e ink display can turn into a giant trackpad when you're not using the keyboard. I'm a fan of giant trackpads and touchscreens lol
That E-ink screen is the most precious feature of this laptop, i can already imagine some digital book lover buying this. In some countries such as Taiwan, we don't have much resource on digital books, we need to scan physical books to PDF, so that we can watch most of books in digital devices. Scanned books come with PDF, but few E-ink devices fully support PDF, Yoga come with big screen and powerful system will help academic and digital books reader a lot.
What happened to the wacom pad? cant deny atom to i5 is a great improvement, but based on my experience on the old yoga book, it simply cannot replace a proper laptop.
when you are doing reviews try to do a proper review... I'm currently looking at this vid on my first gen yoga book (win10). I love it btw... it's a SECONDARY device... it fulfills that role perfectly! design and build quality are superb. I even push this bad boy to the max sometimes by running adobe PS and hitfilm express for minor work on the go. It's not designed for heavy typing, but for creatives, students and people who want an extremely portable yet capable device... stop comparing it to a laptop, show the device for what it is.
Just put a swiftkey on those big trackpads and that's it. 10x typing speed for many people, trying to mimic a regular keyboard is not the best solution.
I am watching this video and writing this comment on the lenovo and I can tell you that the keyboard is not janky and that this computer is the most interesting device i've seen
last time it had massive display bezels which made no sense.., this time its manageable but still the bezels are big. That is not what a user wants in a futuristic laptop
Halo keyboard is a tech not for you girl... Dont review something that you are not familiar with...Take time to ingest digest assimilate the tech before you say something about it...
Is there a possibility to switch languages? Many review mention a customizable multi-language keyboard, but many don’t. I really love the whole concept of this product and would like to buy it for my dad as well, BUT for me it is imperative to be able to switch between languages, whilst for my dad is more important, as he speeds and writes only Russian. Any help, please? Is there maybe a possibility to switch languages and type on the main screen, like on your regular tablet? The reason for me asking, is that I found contradictory info, even a Lenovo support agent saying it is impossible, whilst in your video u mention it being possible. I would greatly appreciate the advice on this matter, about being able to switch between English and Russian keyboard, please help! Thank you in advance (interested in the model with the e-ink display)
The official product review said that it can easily switch between keyboard layouts/languages. as for how many languages will be available remains to be seen.
I don't think it's expensive and there are many reasons 1. How much does a good e reader will cost of course near 400$ to 500$ and um not taking about Amazon e book coz it has limited functions . 2. Just compare it with Microsoft surface book new edition and yes um talking about without the keyboard as they are selling it separately . 3. It's a very light device with great battery life and even if u are low on juice then just use the e ink display to do some lite work. 4. It is portable and comes with a new technology as it's shown by tapping twice it opens . Folks as I see it is a awesome device and a good value for money . Yes we loosing some ports but Microsoft gave a USB port but ditched the USB type C port lame and business policy they just following Apple . Anyway its my thought on this device.
Ricardo Bohórquez they don't usually give 6 minutes to anything not Apple, so this is better than before. However, it's important to understand the distinction here. Apple, Microsoft and Google are the only three companies that make their own software and integrate it with their hardware respectively. So companies like Lenovo are at a massive disadvantage because they can't present their own hardware the way they want. I've recently switched to Windows because I wanted to jog a lot of notes, so I bought the X1 Tablet and replaced it later with the X1 Yoga which I later returned because of network connectivity issues which I later found was a Windows problem not a hardware problem.
So if it doesn't support "second screen" feature its basically just keyboard, pdf reader and for writing notes. So not much improvement comparing to the older Yoga Book
Good idea, but dual colour screen is where it should be. As for typing fuck off, I'm used to typing on a touch screen iPad, works fine. You get used to it, you don't need all that tactile bullshit. A full colour screen as the keyboard would clearly be better.
i beg to differ, we now have 2-in-1 devices, multi-screen devices like this one, touchscreens, pressure-sensitive pens, waterproof keyboards, pop-up cameras, expandable storage, facial recognition, fingerprint scanners, all pioneered on pc's, almost all still absent from macbooks.
I will love this 10' format of lenovo, the desing is "sublime" but man put a REAL presasurre tactile screen, like the main one. This kind of refurbished Kindle 10' secondary screens are a joke. For 700 € i expect more than 4Gb of Ram and only one touch/full color screen. Omg
Wow Engadget way to not put sufficient effort on covering the more useful information. Copying The Verge's video might've been more admirable use of your time
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1000 bucks for an innovative product is 'too expensive' but for a smartphone it is not. Double standards?
It's just that for this price class you'll get better products. As for smartphones it doesn't matter since smartphones are all basically the same device. Give or take features
Better products where? A Sony e-ink tablet of the same size is already $600 on it own, and I doubt that you can find a $400 laptop that is as good as the laptop part of this.
Prakhar Khanna Agree. It’s never too expensive to have two devices (*screens) in one!
Exactly.
I paid 1000 bucks for the Surface Go + keyboard + pen and the Go (8 GB version) was so slow in comparison to my old Chromebook so I returned the Go.
@@swekiwi4517 why would you get the go? for that amount of money you'll get the pro 4 used with top specs. Just look for someone who didn't use it much or who kept it in perfect condition.
Very biased video, as several people here in the comment section pointed out. For phones it's ok a 1000 $ price, but for this innovative device it's too expensive? It's probably the first time in 5 years that a new device is so exciting.
Its a beautiful device and time will tell the tale on its performance and functionality...in a nutshell I want one...
I really love my yoga book (Android version) and am sad to see they didn't release a second gen Android version. :\
Not a great video,
Show both sides of the laptop so you can show that there's 2 USB C chargers and Lenovo said they're not making an Android version.
If been using the first gen Yoga book for almost a year now and I'm really happy with it. I'm mainly using it while being at the Uni/during
Lectures and it's perfect for that.
I'm not sure who this pleasant young lady was who conducted this review of the device, but it's the first time I'm seeing her on TH-cam and she is very pleasant and she speakswith wonderful enunciation and is easy to follow. I really like her, a very pleasant review. As far as this device I went ahead and just purchased one and I'm already seeing the incredible benefits of its portability and it's multiple functions. Definitely a niche device, but if you're willing to spend the money it's well worth it and so far I'm very pleased. Thanks for the great video and have a good day.
I was a late adopter of the original yoga book but find that I really like it. Often with small devices that have tactile keyboards the keys are too small and cramped making typing a nightmare. Even though the yoga book doesn't have a real keyboard I find I can type a lot faster on it. One glitch I run into is if I haven't typed anything in a while and then I start again the first letter doesn't register. Another issue I'm having is that downloading and updating apps from the android play store has a weird delay and often I end up with an error code 927 that it just could download. A reboot fixes this briefly, but it's a pain to have to reboot the device every time I want to update or install an app. I'm cautiously excited about the C930, and considering that they plan to release a 3rd version, it seems logical to wait until that version comes out just so the price of the C930 will drop. One another thing I've noticed is that I cannot find any support from Lenovo for the yoga book. When I try to contact their support and enter my device model number a message shows saying the device is not supported. The only place I can go for help is their community forum page... which isn't really a help since I need Lenovo to push a software update out to patch some bugs... especially the bug with the play store.
The original yoga book didn't fade into disaster land... but the 2018 version is pretty nice to work with. The only thing I dislike is the shift key on the left.
“ePub and mobi” was in it twice
I also noticed that.
I have an OG Yoga Book and I love it. I use it everyday and it works beautifully. I have the Android version and with SwiftKey, the Halo keyboard is wonderful.
Also, nice repetition in the edit re: Epub files.
I have an Android Yoga book. Always regretted not getting the windows version. I love that new keyboard , i hope I can get an LTE version
i stopped listening after "quad hd is pretty good for youtube"
This looks like a really good productivity tool. I’m intrigued by the e-ink. The third gen would be very interesting, or maybe I’ll hope for a price drop once that comes out.
Worse thing about the original wasn't the keyboard, I used it to edit a book. It was the sleep/resume problem and as well as the tendency to lose wifi until you reboot.
@2:44 They should include epub format? @2:50 They should include epub format? - How does a channel like Engadget miss something like this? Did literally NO ONE watch this before going live?
It has some cool features but why did they cripple it with only 4GB ram? It could have been much more usable. E-ink and pen is cool but it's not $1000 cool when I still need something with more ram than normal in laptops 10 years ago.
läkerol
ikr, 4gb of ram is a total deal breaker...
3 yrs
Hey. I have the Yoga Book. I want them to keep at it.
أين يمكن شراءه وكم السعر في روسيا؟
I would love to see it powered by SD850. Lenovo does make weird choices with their C630 and C930's processors.
Forgot about knock knock?
That would mean saying something positive about a product that is not Apple. Never gonna happen.
Whos there ?
Knock to open is beyond pointless. It literally takes seconds to open.
I barely used my keyboard so I really don't mind, hopefully the e ink display can turn into a giant trackpad when you're not using the keyboard. I'm a fan of giant trackpads and touchscreens lol
Such an exciting device, kudos to Lenovo for the innovation.paying 1000$ for this is way more justified than paying the same for a phone.
That E-ink screen is the most precious feature of this laptop, i can already imagine some digital book lover buying this.
In some countries such as Taiwan, we don't have much resource on digital books, we need to scan physical books to PDF, so that we can watch most of books in digital devices.
Scanned books come with PDF, but few E-ink devices fully support PDF, Yoga come with big screen and powerful system will help academic and digital books reader a lot.
2016 called to invite u to the Bezelparty
Hello, what are you rocking on your wrist, is riose gold. Might it be a galaxy watch?
Chrome OS would have been awesome on this beauty
I agree
But I can not run the proper OneNote app for my school stuff!
I love it 😍
as a student i think its best for me ... i am sold
What happened to the wacom pad? cant deny atom to i5 is a great improvement, but based on my experience on the old yoga book, it simply cannot replace a proper laptop.
when you are doing reviews try to do a proper review... I'm currently looking at this vid on my first gen yoga book (win10). I love it btw... it's a SECONDARY device... it fulfills that role perfectly! design and build quality are superb. I even push this bad boy to the max sometimes by running adobe PS and hitfilm express for minor work on the go. It's not designed for heavy typing, but for creatives, students and people who want an extremely portable yet capable device... stop comparing it to a laptop, show the device for what it is.
They already teased the 3rd gen? That seems unwise... Have Lenovo invoked the Osborne Effect?
Just put a swiftkey on those big trackpads and that's it. 10x typing speed for many people, trying to mimic a regular keyboard is not the best solution.
will charge from a powerbank? i work on the field. power sockets are not always available.
I am watching this video and writing this comment on the lenovo and I can tell you that the keyboard is not janky and that this computer is the most interesting device i've seen
last time it had massive display bezels which made no sense.., this time its manageable but still the bezels are big. That is not what a user wants in a futuristic laptop
Halo keyboard is a tech not for you girl... Dont review something that you are not familiar with...Take time to ingest digest assimilate the tech before you say something about it...
Virtual faders for music production, among other uses. Sign me up.
If it can turn into tent mode right? If soo daamn.. I want it.
Is there a possibility to switch languages? Many review mention a customizable multi-language keyboard, but many don’t. I really love the whole concept of this product and would like to buy it for my dad as well, BUT for me it is imperative to be able to switch between languages, whilst for my dad is more important, as he speeds and writes only Russian. Any help, please? Is there maybe a possibility to switch languages and type on the main screen, like on your regular tablet? The reason for me asking, is that I found contradictory info, even a Lenovo support agent saying it is impossible, whilst in your video u mention it being possible. I would greatly appreciate the advice on this matter, about being able to switch between English and Russian keyboard, please help! Thank you in advance (interested in the model with the e-ink display)
The official product review said that it can easily switch between keyboard layouts/languages. as for how many languages will be available remains to be seen.
Lenovo also can include a scanner function for the dual screen 🤔
They should make a chromebook version of this
DID THEY TAKE AWAY USING THE KEYBOARD AS A WACOM TABLET?!?!?!?!
Now with Win 10?! There was 2 Versions to chosse by the first One. Android AND Win 10.
Wonder who the scriptwriter is, 1st yoga book fell into disaster land? Its the single device that really enable me to work away from my cubicle.
8.5 hours quote = 5/6 hours REAL LIFE USE. Come on you should know that by now. Call yourself a tech channel?
I don't think it's expensive and there are many reasons 1. How much does a good e reader will cost of course near 400$ to 500$ and um not taking about Amazon e book coz it has limited functions . 2. Just compare it with Microsoft surface book new edition and yes um talking about without the keyboard as they are selling it separately . 3. It's a very light device with great battery life and even if u are low on juice then just use the e ink display to do some lite work. 4. It is portable and comes with a new technology as it's shown by tapping twice it opens . Folks as I see it is a awesome device and a good value for money . Yes we loosing some ports but Microsoft gave a USB port but ditched the USB type C port lame and business policy they just following Apple . Anyway its my thought on this device.
Is the eInk back lit? a lot of eInk readers offer that now
no, it isnt.
the keyboard sucks but i still use my cracked yoga book for college notes. fuckin love that thing
Bad review. How much pay to you Apple for hate everything about Lenovo?
Ricardo Bohórquez they don't usually give 6 minutes to anything not Apple, so this is better than before. However, it's important to understand the distinction here. Apple, Microsoft and Google are the only three companies that make their own software and integrate it with their hardware respectively. So companies like Lenovo are at a massive disadvantage because they can't present their own hardware the way they want. I've recently switched to Windows because I wanted to jog a lot of notes, so I bought the X1 Tablet and replaced it later with the X1 Yoga which I later returned because of network connectivity issues which I later found was a Windows problem not a hardware problem.
@@DeusEx.Machina better than before is not good enough, they need to give unbiased reviews
price?
So if it doesn't support "second screen" feature its basically just keyboard, pdf reader and for writing notes. So not much improvement comparing to the older Yoga Book
Is the e ink display backlit? I can’t find anything on the product page, but some shots make it look like it is.
apparently not, heard it from other reviews
whethe a12 was the second generation, c930 is the third
I love it
Would be the perfect device for Windows on ARM
can't be a wacom drawing tablet any more, so sad..
the pen still has pressure sensitivity, (more levels than the original), put it is an active pen now instead of the passive emr pen
DONT LOWER YOUR VOICE BETWEEN SENTENCES
not sure if you know the price of the new iphone 512gb.. hahaha
Ahhhhhh i love it.......
intel TigerRapid prototype came to life
Does the pen work on the colour screen as well as the E ink.
yes, it does, according to lenovo's product reveal, however it is not directly stated if pressure sensitivity works on the screen
why her?
Knock knock to open the laptop? Wow
Good idea, but dual colour screen is where it should be. As for typing fuck off, I'm used to typing on a touch screen iPad, works fine. You get used to it, you don't need all that tactile bullshit. A full colour screen as the keyboard would clearly be better.
How much is the retail price in the US?
$999
@@buttercrazy30 wrong. Is 999 euros. Like 1200 bucks or somethinh
no, it is $1000 usd, at least thats what they are advertising
Is it just me or has she been having a lot of trouble talking lately?
She doesn't even write properly....and she is reviewing tech lol
I can tell the keyboard is horrible ........... yogabook ex used for 2 months
Why is she still here... the worst...
fail thick screen edge, amazing keyboard
Wait for next gen Mac Air with same startrek like led touch keyboard. I bet they would be the one deliver the right tactile feedbacks
Apple hasn't been this innovative in a long time.
I’m 2 seconds away from ditching Apple, they better have something for pros soon. 🤨
apple hasn't innovated since the original iphone
John Hinton nothing from PC world either
i beg to differ, we now have 2-in-1 devices, multi-screen devices like this one, touchscreens, pressure-sensitive pens, waterproof keyboards, pop-up cameras, expandable storage, facial recognition, fingerprint scanners, all pioneered on pc's, almost all still absent from macbooks.
lt looks very uncomfrotable to type sth...
I rather stay with my yoga 710 and drawing monitor
I will love this 10' format of lenovo, the desing is "sublime" but man put a REAL presasurre tactile screen, like the main one.
This kind of refurbished Kindle 10' secondary screens are a joke.
For 700 € i expect more than 4Gb of Ram and only one touch/full color screen. Omg
Wow Engadget way to not put sufficient effort on covering the more useful information. Copying The Verge's video might've been more admirable use of your time
this is amazing , i love it the product but hahaha i would love more if i get one for free 😂😂
Waycom? Ya u guys are hacks
2:40 you literally say the same thing back to back. Maybe watch your videos before posting them?
Your eyebags...
You r very beautiful....
Fake key board ? what is a fake keyboard to your mind ?🧐
Thinest laptop in the world
it was, i think acer beat it by half a mm
cool idea but for 200 buck
you cant get a good phone for $200
@@qwe304 I paid $200 for the first gen Yoga Book. Just tested the C930 yesterday @Best Buy and I'm not impressed. Will stick with the 1st gen.
she is talking too much!!!
It’s a horrible device!
Habibur Rahaman why?