4:40 is one of the best tips I've seen. Just that one bit of logic has so many applications 😱 awesome, thanks! Edit: actually this whole video is amazing and incredibly useful. Thanks!
You won’t save any thermo, but it might save a very small amount of performance. If an object is in the scene it’ll always take up the same amount of thermo :)
Thanks for another helpful video. The section about character selection was very helpful. I have a couple of questions. I have not played your game, do you have a separate character select screen? I'm trying to implement a character select screen and have that selection be carried through all of the scenes for a multiplayer game. Is it necessary to have a character emitter for every possible character in every scene and then use your method to save thermo by destroying the others?
I do have a separate character screen for that one yes - it's not always necessary to have an emitter emitting the characters, but if you want more than one player to be able to choose the same character then yes it will be necessary or you'll need to have duplicates of your characters which would take up a lot of thermo. You don't need to destroy the unused characters either, but it's definitely a good way to make the game run a bit quicker if you're getting close to it being full :) hope that helps
Is there a simple way to make collectable objects with that destroyer gadget? I dont wanna make special effects, collecting sounds etc. I just wanna turn something - that I created - into my own collectable object.
thanks for the video but i'm not understanding one thing. this method only decreases gameplay? what about the graphics? i'm currently paying a tribute to a game you might know called antichamber and i want the game to last for a while, so i am putting trigger zones for parts of the map the player won't see anymore but only the gameplay goes down. isn't there a way to make the graphics' thermo go down too? the game will probably show problems when it goes higher than 100%.
Great question. There’s no way I’ve found to decrease the graphics thermometer during gameplay but even if you could, I’m not sure it would make much/any difference to the frames per second. You need the object to be in the scene in the first place, so it’d be taking up that amount of thermometer either way and you can’t save a level that’s over 100% thermo. If you use cloned objects it doesn’t count towards your graphics thermo, only the gameplay thermo so that’s a great way to get more longevity out of your levels without maxing out the graphics thermo. If you make a single varied sculpt, you can flip it around and get lots of different looking things out of it, that way it only takes up one sculpt worth of graphics thermo and uses more gameplay thermometer instead. Lucid stew has a great video out explaining the balancing of graphics/gameplay thermo: th-cam.com/video/-Tkt80MQWl8/w-d-xo.html Hope that helps, let me know if you have more questions :)
@@JimmyJules153 thanks a lot! this is actually very helpful as i do have 5 or 6 things that are wasting my thermo and can simply be replaced by tweaked cloned stuff. well, seems like i will have to play with that and maybe link the current level to others. i will have to be clever for the use of loading screens, i don't want to break immersion. let's see if i can come up with good ideas! thanks again for the help and i will watch that video for more info 🙂 have a nice day 👍
Hey, could you do a coin counter tutorial? as well as the collectable coins of mario bros? I have tried with tutorials from other dreams fans but I have not had any results :/
Hey Jimmy, great video. You say you're gonna explain those little 3% hits on your memory, did I miss it? What part of the video do you explain that part? Sorry I watched it like 4 times and don't recall the part
Haha it sure was! It was a little less obvious before because it was the same watermark on the tutorials made in the beta, who knows maybe it’ll get an update again one day ;)
Would this be applicable to an open world environment? It’s kind of difficult to gauge how far someone would need to be from the destroyed sculptures to where they can’t see that it’s gone so it’s a seamless transition when traveling through the world.
You could use it for open world games but I think you’d run into gameplay thermo issues still. You’d probably be better off splitting up the world into different scenes so you can get lots of detail in each area :)
These tutorials are super helpful! Is it possible to link a character select screen to the next dream and have the character choice be persistent? If so how?
Brandon M. It sure is! You can use a variable for that, you just need to set it to ‘persist in dream’ and it’ll save the value across scenes :) I’ve done a vid on the variables too if you’re keen
So I want to use the destroyer to get rid of parts of the level that my character isn't in, but I also want my character to come back to those parts of the level. Is there a way I can have it so, when the character is in the area the level is there, when the character is not detected it's destroyed, and when the character comes back the area comes back. I'm currently creating trigger zones in tunnels so that the player doesn't see it happening.
Honestly, it'll probably be more logic to get going than it's worth. the engine takes care of things that aren't on the screen by not drawing them anyway, so it kind of does this for you. Unless you're using the same floor asset it'll almost certainly be more expensive to set up with a destroyer/emitter than it'll be worth :/
@@JimmyJules153 Thank you very much for the quick answer. I've already tried to finish the text with a destroyer, but unfortunately this did not work, the textdisplayer is not connected to an object but in a microchip. but how can i turn off the textdisplayer?
I could be wrong, but I definitely don’t think this is a glitch. Currently the ‘affected object’ output can’t be plugged into anything that I’ve found, why else would they have that output there if it’s not to be used?
Claire blackshaw confirmed - it’s a bug that you can’t wire destroyers directly into objects at the moment, but this workaround gets around the bug for now :)
Life saver. This is exactly what I needed. Best Dreamer tutorial maker out here!!!!
4:40 is one of the best tips I've seen. Just that one bit of logic has so many applications 😱 awesome, thanks!
Edit: actually this whole video is amazing and incredibly useful. Thanks!
The part with the moving and generating world was great - I'm trying to make an infinite running type game so I may try to add that!
Can confirm the glitch at 2:30 is a bug. You should be able to wire it directly
Claire Blackshaw awesome thanks for confirming Claire :)
In game development this is called "Culling"
Exactly what I was looking for. Awesome job man!
Awesome vid jimmy. This is going to help me sooo much. Thankyou!
Awesome tips dude!! Great series
Thanks for the breaking it down to bite size chunks.
This is ingenious JIMMY, ur own SMASH BROS.!!! How many playable characters did u end up with?
Doniel PPK OG I think it was 6 by the end of it! It all got so crazy to keep up with 😂
Working on an arcade game, this helps a lot.
Can you also make a logic so that distant object become less detail to save thermo ?
You won’t save any thermo, but it might save a very small amount of performance. If an object is in the scene it’ll always take up the same amount of thermo :)
Thx mate your tips rule bro
Thanks for another helpful video. The section about character selection was very helpful. I have a couple of questions. I have not played your game, do you have a separate character select screen? I'm trying to implement a character select screen and have that selection be carried through all of the scenes for a multiplayer game. Is it necessary to have a character emitter for every possible character in every scene and then use your method to save thermo by destroying the others?
I do have a separate character screen for that one yes - it's not always necessary to have an emitter emitting the characters, but if you want more than one player to be able to choose the same character then yes it will be necessary or you'll need to have duplicates of your characters which would take up a lot of thermo.
You don't need to destroy the unused characters either, but it's definitely a good way to make the game run a bit quicker if you're getting close to it being full :)
hope that helps
Is there a simple way to make collectable objects with that destroyer gadget? I dont wanna make special effects, collecting sounds etc. I just wanna turn something - that I created - into my own collectable object.
thanks for the video but i'm not understanding one thing. this method only decreases gameplay? what about the graphics? i'm currently paying a tribute to a game you might know called antichamber and i want the game to last for a while, so i am putting trigger zones for parts of the map the player won't see anymore but only the gameplay goes down. isn't there a way to make the graphics' thermo go down too? the game will probably show problems when it goes higher than 100%.
Great question. There’s no way I’ve found to decrease the graphics thermometer during gameplay but even if you could, I’m not sure it would make much/any difference to the frames per second.
You need the object to be in the scene in the first place, so it’d be taking up that amount of thermometer either way and you can’t save a level that’s over 100% thermo. If you use cloned objects it doesn’t count towards your graphics thermo, only the gameplay thermo so that’s a great way to get more longevity out of your levels without maxing out the graphics thermo.
If you make a single varied sculpt, you can flip it around and get lots of different looking things out of it, that way it only takes up one sculpt worth of graphics thermo and uses more gameplay thermometer instead.
Lucid stew has a great video out explaining the balancing of graphics/gameplay thermo:
th-cam.com/video/-Tkt80MQWl8/w-d-xo.html
Hope that helps, let me know if you have more questions :)
@@JimmyJules153 thanks a lot!
this is actually very helpful as i do have 5 or 6 things that are wasting my thermo and can simply be replaced by tweaked cloned stuff.
well, seems like i will have to play with that and maybe link the current level to others. i will have to be clever for the use of loading screens, i don't want to break immersion. let's see if i can come up with good ideas!
thanks again for the help and i will watch that video for more info 🙂 have a nice day 👍
Hey, could you do a coin counter tutorial? as well as the collectable coins of mario bros? I have tried with tutorials from other dreams fans but I have not had any results :/
Hey Jimmy, great video. You say you're gonna explain those little 3% hits on your memory, did I miss it? What part of the video do you explain that part? Sorry I watched it like 4 times and don't recall the part
Ah that was the bakery being emitted and deleted for the endless runner setup :)
@@JimmyJules153 okay I appreciate it man
Can I destroy a microchip that is not attached to anything? Not working for me. I was wondering if I needed to have the microchip on a sculpture
No I don’t believe that you can, but there might be a way I haven’t found. You need to have it stamped to an object as far as I know :)
But you could put it on an object you make invisible and then destroy that I believe.
I just relised: Is your intro made from dreams (I say this because the watermark in the bottom right)
Haha it sure was! It was a little less obvious before because it was the same watermark on the tutorials made in the beta, who knows maybe it’ll get an update again one day ;)
Would this be applicable to an open world environment? It’s kind of difficult to gauge how far someone would need to be from the destroyed sculptures to where they can’t see that it’s gone so it’s a seamless transition when traveling through the world.
You could use it for open world games but I think you’d run into gameplay thermo issues still. You’d probably be better off splitting up the world into different scenes so you can get lots of detail in each area :)
These tutorials are super helpful! Is it possible to link a character select screen to the next dream and have the character choice be persistent? If so how?
Brandon M. It sure is! You can use a variable for that, you just need to set it to ‘persist in dream’ and it’ll save the value across scenes :) I’ve done a vid on the variables too if you’re keen
So I want to use the destroyer to get rid of parts of the level that my character isn't in, but I also want my character to come back to those parts of the level. Is there a way I can have it so, when the character is in the area the level is there, when the character is not detected it's destroyed, and when the character comes back the area comes back. I'm currently creating trigger zones in tunnels so that the player doesn't see it happening.
Honestly, it'll probably be more logic to get going than it's worth. the engine takes care of things that aren't on the screen by not drawing them anyway, so it kind of does this for you. Unless you're using the same floor asset it'll almost certainly be more expensive to set up with a destroyer/emitter than it'll be worth :/
@@JimmyJules153 yeah, decided to buck up and learn how to use doorways. But at least I learned some thermo saving tips on the way!
how can i end or destroy Textes from the Text Displayer ?
You could turn off the text displayer, or destroy the object it’s connected to :)
@@JimmyJules153 Thank you very much for the quick answer.
I've already tried to finish the text with a destroyer, but unfortunately this did not work, the textdisplayer is not connected to an object but in a microchip. but how can i turn off the textdisplayer?
Is there no way to make a Destroyer destroy something with an effect like in LBP?
Not the way you’re thinking of no, but you can create your own effects with flecks! :)
Very nice subbed
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Who is this fella?
I wouldn't recommend using glitches in Dreams. They're going to be patched out and anything that's used them will not work.
I could be wrong, but I definitely don’t think this is a glitch. Currently the ‘affected object’ output can’t be plugged into anything that I’ve found, why else would they have that output there if it’s not to be used?
You could be right but I don't think it's worth risking it until you're sure. Perhaps contact MM on Twitter just to clarify?
Claire blackshaw confirmed - it’s a bug that you can’t wire destroyers directly into objects at the moment, but this workaround gets around the bug for now :)
Nice. Saw her post. I wasn't being funny. I hope you understand that! :)
GribbleGrunger of course! Glad we got an answer :)