Reaction to SABATON - The Carolean's Prayer
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- This is my Reaction to SABATON - The Carolean's Prayer (Official Lyric Video)
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The Swedish parts are the Lord's Prayer. "Our Father who art in heaven...". It's used to reinforce the deeply religious nature of the Caroleans.
Were they Catholic or Protestant at the time?
@@hunterv9983 they were protestants. They fought against the catholics during the 30 years' war.
@@hunterv9983 Even as a protestant the Lord's prayer is still a massive thing to them. I'm protestant and still had to learn the prayer (though protestants today mostly use it as a guideline for a prayer in their own words not copied.)
@@hunterv9983 specifically we are Lutherans.
@@svartorivigt5016 we were would be more specific we are not religious anymore.
It's important to understand exactly what their tactics were to fully appreciate the song. They would meet the enemy at the 100 yard line where the enemy would open fire. However, the Caroleans would march on to the 50 yard line and half of them would fire. Then while the enemy was still reloading their muskets they would march on to the 25 yard line and the other half would fire. This would finally be followed by a saber and bayonet charge.
This tactic was called "march on" and it was absolutely devastating. Won them almost every battle.
@Lorenzo Smit exactly. Orders were: hold your fire until you can see the white in their eyes
@Lorenzo Smit it's because they came so close to the enemy that they would see the white in the enemies' eyes.
@Lorenzo Smit They should not fire until they could the the white in the enemies eyes. So the soldiers would take the enemy fire while still marching an then fire at close range. And by swedish tradition at that time they would attack after with bayonets and sabers xD Sweden had an tactic at that time that relied much on offense
The Swedes would also charge in absolute silence, no battle cry to signal the attack. It was incredibly shocking an unnerving. Sweden had to win battles quick because they did not have the number of troops to fight battles of attrition, so the quicker the enemy was routed the better.
@@phrozen66 yep and this is why we lost in the end, we simply could not replenish the losses we took in the war.
You could say that Caroleans were “special forces” (not in the seal team 6 kinda way) but in a highly disciplined and motivated force with undying loyalty and love for their kingdom and god
So you're telling me them Caroleans never marched into battle w/ modern kit and submachine guns? Blasphemy
@@PonyBoy1776 nonono, their kit was pretty modern, at least for that era. Sweden was quite the leader in military tech. Of course no submachine guns
@@Inferiis I do wonder what Charles Gustave Vasa would have done with a mitrailleuse along with his leather guns.
Their god was charles just so you know, charles was god in their eyes and in his eyes
The pure elite was the drabanterna (Swedish) under Johan bańer
The Swedish part is the Lord's prayer in Swedish.
Fader vår - our Father
som är i himmelen - that is in heaven
helgat vare Ditt namn - hallowed be Thy name
tillkomme Ditt rike - Your kingdom come
ske Din vilja - Your will be done
såsom i Himmelen - like in Heaven
så ock uppå jorden - and also like on Earth
ge oss bröd - give us bread
och förlåt oss våran skuld - and forgive us our tresspasses
Skuld would translate better as faults / sins
@@peter-8483 It is not really a question of how "skuld" translates best to English as the Lord's prayer already exists in several versions in English.
Both Swedish and English versions is translations from Greek in the Bible itself.
@@hnorrstrom
I don’t really get what you mean, in German, Dutch, Swedish, etc, it’s sins and faults, not trespasses which means something else, he’s translating the Swedish words, and the better translation would be faults / sins
@@peter-8483 Sins is a better direct translation from Swedish I agree.
If you are going for a direct translation of the Swedish words it is better to use it.
However neither Swedish nor English is the original language, the prayer is already in the Catholic Bible.
Most logical for me would be to simply use one of the already established English versions as translation.
The older English versions uses the word Tresspasses.
For what reason I don't know, maybe it is closer to the original Greek text.
Skuld=Guilt
(Feeling guilty for sinning)
Sabaton does a fantastic job of making you feel like you are Swedish, Russian, German, Polish, etc
Absolutely. Most people belonging to the loosing side was actually fighting for the betterment of the human race.
No history book is able to explain this.
As a part German Swede i agree 😌🤣
The Swedish part isn't an echo of the english that follows, it is an actual prayer, it translates as follows
Our father, who art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done,
As in heaven, so on Earth
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our sin
Loving the reactions and insights Dave! Eager to hear your thoughts on the rest of the album!
Interesting how the Swedish version is slightly different to the English version of that prayer
Here in Brazil it's a couple lines longer. Roughly (and with less "fancy" words) translated:
[...] Give us this day our daily bread
And forgive us for our sins
Just as we forgive those who sinned against us
Do not let us fall into tentation
And free us from all the evil
Amen
This isn't the full prayer just the part used in the song just to make it clear.
It goes on like "as we shall also forgive those who are guilty towards us. And do not put us through temptation, but save us from evil. For the Kingdom is yours and the power and the glory for eternity, Amen"
Joakim's voice has a very specific expression in this song, which I can't explain further, but which gives me goosebumps. Also, I really like it when they sing in Swedish, even if I don't understand a word. That makes all the songs sound even more impressive somehow.
Sabaton actually shows in all of their songs that it doesn't matter under which name war is waged, whether under some god's name or under that of some worldly leader, it's always and for everyone horrible. And marching with the "Vaterunser, The Lord's Prayer" (Fader vår som är i himmelen) on their lips doesn't make it better. Unfortunately, people have not yet understood this.
Thanks for reacting, Dave.
Caroleans is the name given to the Swedish army during the reigns of kings Charles XI and Charles XII in the 1600's.
One of their best songs! Would love to see you react to the Swedish version as well, it has different lyrics that change the theme of the song. They've got a handful of songs that are practically completely different songs based on the language.
You have a nice calm demeanor, pleasant to watch and a very fine voice that's easy on the ears, Sir!
The swedish being sung is, I believe, the swedish version of the lord's prayer/our father.
Carolus Rex, or King Charles, did an army reform for Sweden. This reform was each district would have to provide, if I recall correctly, roughly 1,200 soldiers. Their tactics were to march quickly and confidently close enough to the enemy to see the whites of the enemies eyes before shooting their weapons, and then send the next rank closer and they'd shoot and then there'd be a charge with saber and bayonets. These soldiers were called Caroleans (Sort of like Carol-ians, in the vein of Californians type deal) and they prayed and sung protestant hymns as they marched.
And if you think this one is good, wait until Long Live the King. You will want to cry for a king that was never yours.
Also, so, back then, being religious was a big thing back then. And especially since the Swedes were Protestant. This is only a few decades after the Religious League Wars in Germany/the Holy Roman Empire in which the Lion out of Midnight/Lion from the North Gustavus Adolphus, a previous Swedish king, was critical for the Protestants winning. So the church feel that a lot of songs in this album have is very apropos.
@@irhinohammer correct on all accounts, a small caveat. If a district couldn’t contribute the required manpower. They had to give food, munitions and animals to the army.
@@irhinohammeryeah, and charles was god for them and for him, thats why they had such loyalty to him
Since Denmark, Norway, and Sweden were the home of the Vikings, theoretically you could draw a line from the Viking special forces, aka, the berserkers straight down to the Caroleans. The only things that really changed were the weaponry and their final destination after death. They exchanged Valhalla for heaven and replaced their axes and swords with muskets and bayonets.
Dave, you are among the best reactors out there! Keep up the good work!
Good to see another great reaction to another great song!
So this starts back in the early years of Carolus Rex fathers reign. His name was also Carl (the XI) and his father in turn died young but at the peak of the Swedish Empire. Waiting for young Carl to grow up to claim the throne a concil of the highest nobles in the land run the country. And they did it POORLY. So after his first years as King Carl the XI started to travel the nation incognito. What he saw terrified him. The fleet was in scrambles, the army was a chaotic mess. So he fired his corrupt ministers and started the greatest reorganisation of Swedens armed forces ever. And he founded the Carolean army that he son Carolus Rex would make famous. It was one of the first real modern armies with full time soldiers that was funded by taxmoney and they got some land and a home to live in during peace but they had a dutie to always practice their skills as a soldier. So at a time when most of the world used conscripts directly from some farm Sweden had a highly disiplined army marching past the point where most other forced started to shoot with hard to aim muskeets. They fired their weapons in close range and then istead of reloading they charged with byoneets and swords. Time and time again they made much larger forces flee the battle. But this was scary and dangerous work so religion was key to keep the nerves in check.
You got most of the song explained in earlier comments, so I will just add...
As Caroleans were deeply religious, they believed that God already had decided their faith before they went into battle, therefore there was no need to be scared. God's will could not be questioned.
XD I keep needing to add!!!
The text in swedish is the prayer of "The Lords Prayer" in english. I suppose, I don't really know much about it, but its biblical lol.
"Father ours who arth in Heaven".. that's the translation and I suppose how it starts in english for you.
"See the whites in their eyes carolieans are marching on"
Is a refference to the swedish "gå på" or "walk on" doctrin.
In a time were blocks of conscripts were put into squares on 2 ends of a field shooting vollies at eachother the swedes instead held their fire untill they were suuper close then they fired once and charged into close combat. This had a horrific effect on the enemy and they often won against enemies that outnumbered them several times over.
6:20 After the Carolean pray to god, and acepte the will of god, they did no longer have "fear" if god wanted them to die, it was gods will, and they can do nothing about it. If god want them to to live, they have "divine protection" I am sure there was individuals who was in total terror, but overall, the army was ferless in combat, and could mach through a hail of bullets.
The Caroleans were elite soldiers of Sweden, deeply religious and loyal to their king (until the big mystery of who shot the king that may or may not have been one of his own soldiers). They were few in numbers but far superior despite this. Now, maybe the king's ambitions was the downfall of the caroleans, or perhaps it was simply the vastly larger army of their enemies that did it, but these guys were fearless and will forever hold a place in the most elite of their time. Much like the Romans once were. One thing is for sure, you did not want to be on the enemy side of a Carloean army, and for sure not in the frontlines against them.
P.S. They were also highly religious at that time.
Also another P.S.
Their belief was that if it was their time to die, they would die regardless. So there was no point in fearing death.
And, quite possibly, they'd die by their commanders if they didn't obey, so.... I suppose that would also be a motivator to keep marching forward :P
And the lyric "see the white in their eyes" is a reference to their tactics of moving much closer to the enemy before opening fire. Truly beasts.
Okay now you must do long live the king, it's on this album and it's an absolute masterpiece, every song on this album is but this one stands in a league of it's own
My favourite Sabaton song … but the swedish version is better 😊
You think? Hmm i think they are pretty much equal.. maybe i should listen the swedish version again! ^^
I have a few band and song suggestions: Overkill mean green killing machine, Testament Brotherhood of the snake, Alestorm drink, blind guardian Valhalla, Exodus Blacklist, Death Angel The moth and fellow Swedish former Sabaton members Civil War i will rule the universe
That's what's popping dave keeps it popping 💰🍻🍿
Dave why don't try to react to the Sabaton History Channel? There you can see the topic of every song & how they get the idea to make the song.
P.D: the history of this song is very interesting.
The videos are very long is the main reason, and I only have a short amount of time to record. If I did a reaction to it, it would be the only one I could release for the day, and right now I’m not too convinced it would perform well due to the length that the reaction would be. I will do one soon. Hopefully everybody shows up for it like you guys do for the music reactions.
@@whatitdodave I understand.
Sabaton history here on TH-cam has a video explaining what the caroleans were and how they fought.
another nice reaction...btw i just listened to the english version of the audio book Richard Harris "Enigma"....i knew the book but i was curious....YOUR voice would just fit so perfect.... blame it one Penguin Book audio! or did they sell it ?
Sabaton will make you patriotic for another country
As a half Swede, this brings out my inner Swedish pride. Lenge liv Kungen! (Long live the King!) 🇸🇪
Länge leve kungen*
@@thebronywiking I've got a British phone so I don't have the Swedish alphabet on my keyboard
@@oliversherman2414 Okay.
Just remember Liv = Life while Leve = Live (When praising someone).
@@thebronywiking got it
Sabaton is so good! Great songs, great musicians, interesting history lessons. And a great reaction video from you. What's not to like about this?
I suggest you watch the History channel on this song. It answers most of your questions. Both about their faith and the military tactics
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Dave, where’s the NF coming back???????
Hey I know it's kind of an old song but could you react to we burn? A lyric video preferably as it's sometimes hard to tell. Make sure you get the history behind it if you do decide to react to it!
Cool
The swedish version hits differently, but maybe because it's native tongue and they can put more emotion into it.
The britsh empire took the Swedish caroelans tactic effectively to heart. Thats one of the reasojns they were so effective. Aggressive warfare with mitigating losses. The british empire however could replace its losses sweden couldnt. Later though technology got better and rifles got upgraded.
Sabaton allways sing qotes from swedish history
No, they also write about the first and second world war..
6:18 You are so on the money. The Religion changed, we became bastions of LIBERTY, reformation etc.
but I feel, if pushed hard enough, this docile and tamned part of the world, will raise up
Like Shakespeare wrote:
That all the world shall- I will do such things-
What they are yet, I know not; but they shall be
The terrors of the earth! You think I'll weep.
No, I'll not weep.
try to return to Carolus Rex and listen to these two songs back to back, Carolus first, Prayer second, gives this song little different meaning.
React to the Swedish Carolus Rex album!
While it's not related to this album, I highly recommend Panzerkampf, Wehrmacht, and Rise Of Evil if you haven't done them yet!