Sabaton - The Carolean's Prayer | English + Swedish Versions | Reaction
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This is one of my favourite songs on the album. Melody is amazing and I love how they used the prayer to emphasize the historical context. Not religious, I just think it's a great idea considering how religious they were and how it affected their performance on the battlefield. Edit: Joakim always writes the music, either alone or with someone else, usually one of the guitarists
It's usually Joakim and Per.
Wow so Joakim and Pär literally write the lyrics AND the music? That's freaking talent!!
The Carolingians (Karolinerna in Swedish) is the name of the entire Swedish army in this period. Karl (Carolus in latin, Charles in english) from the name of the kings who created it, Karl X, Karl XI and the one this album in named after, Karl XII. Study the tactics of this army. It is very interesting.
Caroleans served under Karl XI, XII
So are they all referred to as Carolus Rex? Or just Karl II? And if Carolus Rex means Charles, don't they all fall under that nickname? That's what confuses me cause when I hear Carolus Rex, I think Karl II only
@@Clouded_Reactions Karl XII is the one that is refered to as Carolus Rex and means Karl king but would be said as King Karl though. Its possible that in some church books they wrote carolus for all Karls since latin was used by them from time to time (i dont know what all priests and Bishops wrote) but once again its Karl XII that is known as Carolus Rex. 👍
Carolius rex in latin means charles/karl king (rex means king) he signed many papers with an X as its a long line of kigs that didnt spell very good. Including charles of sweden.
@@danielnystrom7310 carolus. Wich documents did he sign with X? Also swedish king had good education.
The battle tactic described is basically to keep approaching the enemy as they shoot their volleys early. The guns of the time had low precision, so you had to be really close to be sure to score a lethal hit. The Caroleans would keep on approaching the enemy as they reloaded. The Caroleans, with their fully loaded guns could instead fire lethal volleys at close range. Basically the Caroleans put their faith in god and their commander to keep them safe while walking into guns firing volleys at them, knowing that no matter what happened, it would be gods will. But of course this came at a heavy cost, and requiring steeled nerves as you see your friends fall next to you. But to know that with this, you would win decisively with less losses overall.
Also gonna add that there were priests with them on their march to keep their spirits up and putting faith in god. They were also told that if anyone dies on the field, it was something god already planned so they shouldn't fear death but keep on marching. Also, I can barely imagine seeing an army of 10k headed right towards you and never flinch when their brother in arms died right next to them and then continue marching even when you would shoot at them. Literally unstoppable. It was either winning of dying and they knew it. And we didn't really have a large force so they pushed on and when they fired their shots at point blank range they charged at them as a lot of Swedes had been trained in close quarters, more so than most countries at the time.
@@1991beachboy Add that the final volley was followed by a mass charge, which meant you had a wall of heavily armed Swedes rushing out of a thick cloud of gunsmoke with pikes, swords, and bayonets at the ready. The end result was such a horrifyingly demoralizing shock that most armies broke and ran before the charge even reached them. They had absolutely no interest in engaging the Swedes in close combat.
They were like the T-800s of their time, who also happened to be religious zealots. As a general rule they feared nothing, and that alone was demoralizing for the enemy.
Thank you guys for that clearer picture! I was suggested to react to another video that explains in better detail how the Carolean's tactics worked but you guys probably summed it all up!
Lol I can't unsee Tobey maguire marching to this now
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If I remember correctly, the Caroleans would get close enough to see the white in the enemies' eyes before firing a volley, going a little closer, shooting 2 volleys and then charging into melee.
Sweden is a Protestant-Christian country. There is a lot of different Christian faiths, ortodox, catholic, protestant... and many more.
That was back then though, right? Cause I've learned (through comments) that most of Sweden today is no longer religious
@@Clouded_Reactions Correct, Scandinavia as a whole is rather non religious. You are far more likely to find actively practicing muslims than you are christians in Sweden today in part due to the large amounts of immigrants that Sweden has taken in. Throughout my life I have met two practicing christians that actively went to church
@@Teutathis sad
In general Christians in Sweden now are Lutherans.
My favourite sabaton song together with Blood of Banockburn
Bannockburn? Sounds familiar, I'll add it to the list!!!
Thanks for a beautiful reaction. There's absolutely nothing wrong with making a song your own because it speaks to you! Quite the opposite: applicability is a beautiful thing and the fact that this song is so relatable is a testament to good songwriting. Yes - a group of crazy people hijacked the music for hateful purposes, but this doesn't mean that the same music can't inspire to constructive insights and humane and generous actions. A piece of peaceful art, created in good faith, is never inherently bad, but it can be abused, as is the case with many things. Religion is a great example of this: historically, many scriptures, which in essence carry a loving message and are intended to inspire good deeds, have been used by destructive groups to further their own agenda, but that doesn't change the fact that religion saves a lot of people and can make people into more loving and understanding human beings.
A person's relationship to religion is about other things than faith, too. Although I'm a hard-core atheist, this song still speaks to me and makes me emotional, not only because I respect and want to honour other people's religious beliefs, but because the story it tells is a part of history, my culture, family traditions and values. I may not relate to it from a religious point of view, but I look upon the subject matter as part of my cultural identity.
Just keep up the good work! Your thoughtful and entertaining reaction videos are highly appreciated. Cheers!
I agree with you 100%. Art only exists through interpretation, without interpretation, paintings would just be globs of paint.
That is very true, there were many instances of atrocities made in the name of God. Thanks, I didn't want to upset anyone (especially finding out most Swedes are no longer religious) when comparing Sabaton music to Christian beliefs. It's also why I changed the subject very fast haha appreciate you! All of you!!!
Caroleans prayer is based on Carolus Rex(Karl XII). He was Swedens king during the great northern war(1700-1721), so almost a century after the 30 years war.
It was a war that began when he was 18 years old and he had enemies on all sides, Denmark, Norway, Poland-lithuania, Saxony and Russia went against Sweden because they thought he was just a boy who knew nothing of war. He went on to kick all their asses early on, completely devastated Poland and won over Denmark early on. Russia however turned out to be too much, he was off to a great start defeating an army of 40k russians with 10k in the middle of a blizzard while only losing 500 men. He eventually lost because he marched on Russia, at the battle of Poltava Russia obliterated the Swedish professional army.
And about the carolean army, they were unstoppable. Had insane amounts of discipline and morale, only thing Sweden lacked at the time was manpower.
Which is why they marched on, because they didn't have the men to stand in a line and fire on the enemy until they were defeated, that would've meant too many died that wasn't easily replaced. This combined with their defeat at Poltava is what destroyed the Swedish Empire. Something they never recovered from. We haven't been in a lot of offensive wars since.
That loss took us with a huge hit and we had to give up a lot of territories. Think only Sweden and Finland was left, until they(Russia) conquered Finland almost hundred years later and split our country in two. Ever since then we've mostly stayed out of conflicts and instead focus on being best friends with everybody instead.
Sorry for the long text but you seem to like the history :D
I LOVED your clarification! I was under the assumption that Gustavus Adolphus was another name for Karl ll cause the album is named after him AND the first song was about Gustavus. So it was Gustavus, some kings not mentioned, then Carolus Rex (Karl ll)? Gustavus put Sweden on the map and Karl ll created the impeccable tactics of the Caroleans? Ahhhh so much cleared. Hey if you had another few pages of info, I would have been focused in on every word! Thanks brother!!!
@@Clouded_Reactions Gustavus Adolphus is king Gustav II Adolf "the lion from the north". Not ALL Swedish kings are named Karl (Carolus) 😉
@@darkiee69 More info added to my arsenal of education! Thanks brother!! :D
@@Clouded_Reactions Karl XII, not Karl II. And the tactics were actually not his but his fathers, Karl XI. He reformed the army into the caroleans. They were just very handy to have for Karl XII when his enemies declared war. I would love to add more stuff but there's actually quite a few great videos out there.
Great Northern War - When Sweden ruled the world by Extra credits is something i highly recommend if you want to learn more of the history
@@Clouded_Reactions fun fact you know at the end they repeat the prayer over and over that is supposed to symbolise the swedish army marching into battle if you listen closely as they sing the prayer you can hear the sound of the army marching
The Caroleans actually believed that God decided when it was each mans time to die.
That's why they marched upp fearlessly until they saw the whites in the enemies eyes.
They knew that if it was their time so be because it was God's plan.
Sweden was actually pretty much a military superpower back then.
*Unaffected by the volleys* refers to the inaccuacy of the firearms used to theur advantage to offset their small numbers and resources when fighting larger and better supplied forces. They would close to 50 yards instead of 100 before opening fire
That makes so much sense now, since the enemy fired at the 100m they tend to miss a lot and took quite the time to reload! 🤯🤯🤯 Visionary!!
5:39 Not sure if it's a common expression elsewhere, but "to see someone in the white of their eye" (att se någon i vitögat) means you're facing someone (an enemy or death itself) head on, usually with a connotation of barely surviving.
Tbh, this English version is one of my least favourite. The semantics just don't flow as well as they usually do in some places. Maybe that's just me tho!
I did notice that some of the English version didn't match, as if they should have chosen a different word to make it sound better, but wow least favorite? I need to listen to a LOT more Sabaton so I can have some comparisons ;D
To see the white in your enemies eyes means that you're really close.
Allegedly, this command was given to the American revolutionaries at the Battle of Bunker Hill. It's quite a common expression here in the states, because of our history.
If you wanna know more about the King whom there Caroleans served, do a reaction to the title track of the album, "Carolus Rex." It's about the coronation of Karl XII (Charles XII), a prime ruler at merely 15 years of age and a firm believer in the Divine Right of Kings. There is an English version and a Swedish version, and both have live videos, but if you're fine with the lyric videos that's cool. Definitely worth checking out, and would love to see you reacting to some of the history episodes as well, very informative.
I definitely need to hear the Swedish version AND listen to the history video behind this track. Cheers!!
I encountered Karl XII of Sweden when I was working in Estonia.
He was the Carolus Rex referred to and his troops were called the Caroleans
He was not seen in a terribly favourable light in Estonia
as he lost the territory to Peter the first of Russia
who defeated him in the Great Northern War
and took most of the possessions of the Swedish Empire.
He was an absolute monarch and all the problems that involves
and apart from Gustav III about seventy years later
he was the last absolute monarch who rules Sweden.
(Gustav III was a bit of a disaster and was assassinated at the opera
at a masked ball - Verdi wrote an opera about the assassination
called Un ballo in maschera (a masked ball)
but had to alter the setting because of the censors demands)
So karl XII had a few names, a few titels. Here you go - We Charles, by the Grace of God King of Sweden, the Goths and the Vends, Grand Duke of Finland, Duke of Scania, Estonia, Livonia
and Karelia, Lord of Ingria, Duke of Bremen, Verden and Pomerania, Prince of Rügen and Lord of Wismar, and also Count Palatine by the Rhine, Duke in Bavaria, Count of
Zweibrücken-Kleeburg, as well as Duke of Jülich, Cleve and Berg, Count of Veldenz, Spanheim and Ravensberg
and Lord of Ravenstein.
Hes army was called caroleans (karoliner in swedish) he was what we would call a fanatic, crowned king at 15, took the crown from the bishop and put on himself, church isnt holy enought to crown him, chosen by God 🤷 Went to war at 18, returned to sweden once to visit hes sister. Killed in norway 1718.
Second time he came home he was carried. Of the army that left norway, half of them died in a blizzard. The king is dead, long live the king
Edit.
He was sick to death by snapphanarna in skåne, southern sweden, attacks on kings men and buildings etc, so he planed to dig a ditch across sweden to separate sweden and skåne. Skåne wanted to be danish and was danish a few times, so a ditch would work as a border 🤷 nutter 😂
Are those all unofficial titles he held? Like named by the people? That’s the most names I’ve ever seen one person hold before 😂😂😂
Karoliner = Carolean was the name of the soldier in the swedish army during that time (from the name of the king)
Great to see your reaction to the #1 Sabaton song!
Omg this is history
They've been around since the 90s! I'm so upset with myself!!
The kings name was karl and thats why the soldiers called karoliner(caroleans)
Ah ok, the Swedish history is so rich, I'd like to learn so much more!
a remark on the translation we do not say father or mother land we say Foster land that translate in to infant land or birth land
Oh really? That's interesting, so instead of meaning the place that GAVE birth to them, they really mean the place OF their birth, or origins. Huh, wish I knew more stuff like this. Cheers!!
@@Clouded_Reactions that is corect👍
@@Clouded_Reactions ask any ting you wunder about sweden swedish or translation and I try to help
Ok, just to make another comment about Sweden and religion.
We are indeed mostly christian protestants, but we wouldn't call ourselves religious at all. I do not consider myself anything as far as religion goes. But Protestant or not, catholic or not, most people here do not regularly go to church or anything unless its weddings or funerals or baptism. That's pretty much it for the majority in Sweden.
BNack in the days of where thsi song is portraying, Sweden was way more religious. That is basically the saying if the king at this time - he was chosen by God, and he bows to no one but God. What he is saying is God's words. That to me is crazy, but that's how it was back then. So the Carolean army was never large in size. They always faight an uphill battle. But many times they did succeed, because you expect to find the smaller army retreat, right. You expect them to face reality of teh size of army and just turn around and accept defeat before the army is cut down. But the Caroleans did not, because their king said move foward. And the tiny army of Sweden would indeed win with great odds agaisnt them, causing tgat fear in the enemy. Like David and Goliat, it would be logical for hte giant to win, right. Yeah, not always.
Yeah I realized that Swedes today find it liberating that the church doesn't have a stronghold on politics and everyday Swede lives like they used to. Makes perfect sense to me now
Seeing the white of their enemies eyes are referring to when someone dies and their eyes roll back in their head, I think.
Edit: Apparently I was wrong
No! In means that you're so close that you can, literally, see the white part of their eyes.
@@darkiee69 Does it?
@@darkiee69 Oh! I looked it up. It's when they waited until their enemies were close enough before they fired their guns. My bad.
I love how when he signs "Into battle through the fire, Lord thy will be done" the music is extremely serene, because the Caroleans were so indoctrinated that they fully to thier depths of thier soul believed that if they were to fall while marching up to the enemy line, it was God's ordained will and no point trying to fight it. So utterly fearless due to that belief they just kept marching as thier kinsmen fell around them, up to just 25 meters (about 80 feet) from enemy lines, fired two volleys of thier own muskets then charged straight into melee as the enemy was still reloading, not having time to bring thier bayonettes to bear. And all this time, with great zeal chanting prayers. The effect on enemy morale was devastating beyond description, espescially as Karl XII (12) was always marching shoulder to shoulder with either the first or second wave of men.
Hi! I'm a Christian Metalhead from Sweden! 😁😇
Ahh cheers brother!
At that time you would march until you were within 100 meters away then fire your musket, The Swedes would hold fire until they got to 50 meters, they are singing the Lords Prayer in Swddish
This is one of the few songs that I bump while at work :D it gets the blood pumping!!
@@Clouded_Reactions yeah and when the lords prayer fades out in the end it's supposed to symbolise the caroleans marching into battle singing the lords prayer if you listen carefully you can actually hear the soldiers foot steps and military drums
You are missing sabaton history channal.
Others does lyrics video+ history+ live video (sort by most views) all in one video.
Try that. And allways extra points for emotions. Let it out.
Lets se how "no bullets fly" animated version treats you.
Peace from a Swede \/
I LOVE the history behind each song! I record the history videos separately so my videos aren't an hour long haha cheers!!
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Gå po, swedish genious doctrine of not stopping to exchange musket fire, but charge into melee after firing at close range.
The amount of discipline and faith it took to carry out Gå Po is astonishing!
Carolus Rex = Carolean army ( Carolus Rex is another name for King Carl XII of Sweden)
Sabaton are often mixing Christian hymns into their lyrics. In a more recent song "Livgardet" (Swedish version) or "The Royal Guards" English version they start from the get go with another Christian well known hymn - "Fairest Lord Jesus .
Oouuu, sounds like something I'll fall in love with automatically... compared to every single song I've heard so far 😂 Sabaton can't make flops!
Carolus rex = king Charles (Karl in Swedish) not carolean army. Same as Tyrannosaurus rex
swden back then was the swedish empire . that video clip with the soldiers is about the battle of poltova . if the swedes had crushed the russians back then there wouldent been any russia today . Swedish empire back then made the world tremble =^.^=
Only about 10% of the sweds believe in any gods, we have more religous muslims here than Christians, people still uses the churches for weddings and funerals but we dont worship any gods. Many of our traditions is from the viking age. Like midsummer, julafton, valborg.
Midsummer and Valborg are not viking at all, and jul (Christmas) is not celebrated the way the Vikings did.
@@SwedishWarGoat. Midsommar and Valborg are pagan...what is your source that they're not? It's colloquially known.
@@helmaschine1885 are you Swedish? If so, do your own research, there's plenty out there.
I'll tell you this though, valborg is pagan but not Viking. It came to sweden from Germany in the middle ages.
@Swedish War Goat
No Christmas is not celebrated was the Vikings did, thanks to the church moving Jesus birthday from the shifting between August and September to December 25, the main day of the vikings Jol (ancient Nordic/fornnordiska for having fun) celebrations.
Swedish Christmas is as many other traditions like Lucia a mish mash of influences from different countries.
@@drigerdranzer7514 thats right. No wonder a lot of people don't know exactly why we celebrate certain holidays.
Swedes aren't that into religion, it is not a lot people with faith, most commen is probably Atheism and Agnosticism. When 30 year war happened though protestant-Christianity was the main realigion and most people followed that religion.
Knowing this blows my mind, they were so heavy in their faith, what happened? Maybe it'll be explained as I listen to the album. Thanks for the bit of input!!!
@@Clouded_Reactions the step away from religion has been slowly but gradually till this day. A lot of event and knowledge has led to this.
@@Clouded_Reactions It became legal to be an atheist or agnostic. And the church never had the same power in Sweden as it had in other countries. We did realize that God didn't create man, man created god. You should look up a series here on TH-cam called "The Norden" and the episode on religion. The premise of the show is that they invite a relevant person from the US to visit the nordic countries and investigate their profession. One priest, a police captain and a jailer.
All three episodes are well worth watching.
@@Clouded_Reactions Sorry in advance for the following wall of text (I don't expect anyone on the planet to be interested in my waffle, but I'd love to discuss it with more people):
There are many interesting concepts to explore on this topic, but let me instead present you with another conundrum, which may explain what happened, at least partially: how come Swedes remain members of The Church of Sweden when Sweden is the biggest atheist country in the Western world (i e two or three countries like Luxembourg with basically a fraction of the size of the Swedish population are rated a little higher)?
The answer, I think, is that Swedes don't mind paying church tax, because we recognise all the good The Swedish Church does and its historical importance. I think we as a people like the idea of an institution which is open to everyone and anyone, at any time; a place to celebrate weddings as well as a safe place for people to seek refuge. Many churches are used by the local communities to host non-religious events for the public. We are very fond of working together to the benefit of all, and paying church taxes and support our local church is a way of doing just that.
Another thing you mentioned as being curious in your Killing Grounds Explained video, was that people in the comment section were very adamant in pointing out that Sweden is a *Protestant* country, and that should tell you how much this distinction means to us. We don't even specify what kind of Protestants we are, unlike people in other countries who identify themselves as Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists, et c. Why? I don't really know (and if someone who knows a lot about this would care to educate me I'd very much appreciate it). We're atheist or agnostic Protestants, and that in itself may seem a little weird.
The fact that we broke free from the Catholic Church and the influence of the Vatican seems to evoke a sense of pride even today, maybe it's seen as an act of defiance and a symbol of our love for freedom. To this day, our society is heavily influenced by what would be considered Swedish Protestant values: no one has the authority to dictate which relationship a person has to religion (The Bible is up for individual interpretation and the relationship to God highly personal), the Church mustn't influence State business and may not decide how you live your life (your piety is not rewarded on earth, it doesn't give you any free passes, only your hard work and good behaviour is valued). In a way, Swedish Protestantism may have been the downfall of religion itself. People looked to the State to care for them; they didn't need religion.
In this day and age, the Protestant past is reflected in Swedish trust in the State to uphold the country's welfare system: while being rated as one of the least religious countries in the Western world, the country also scores among the absolute highest in trust towards the State and its institutions, even the trust in the government reaches record heights (these are international surveys talking, not me).
That's not to say that we don't criticise our government and institutions, quite the opposite. One example can be found in the fact that the Swedish Freedom of the press act in the constitution is the oldest in the world (it traces its roots as far back as the mid 1700s). Compared to many other countries, Swedes exert a lot of power over how the country should be run and how the people must be treated. If a government doesn't fulfill its promises, a new ruling party will have to give way to another. Lobbyists beware: the way to power cannot be bought and the Swedish public will challenge and criticise even their own parties without mercy. We're not very loyal when it comes to voting, we look to the interests of the people, not the interest of one single party.
Swedish (and in many ways Scandinavian) culture IS a bit curious, partially because it's so full of contradictions. We're individualist, but we also fight for a strong national and societal collective. We're all about doing our own thing, but we always co-operate with each other. We've got strong personal opinions, but we're also great at compromising. If we were religious, pragmatism would be a religion - and that is, ironically, perhaps, quite a Swedish Protestant way of looking at the world.
@@darkiee69 I'll definitely look into those yt series, I do understand where you're coming from too. I grew up in the church so it's very hard to separate my beliefs from common sense, especially since I'm a strong believer in science. The two aren't really able to walk hand-in-hand but that's my daily struggles. I often find myself making scenarios in my head where I'd have to defend my beliefs against scientific arguments but deep down I know that's just me trying to rationalize my faith. Thanks bro!
About religious war
If you can't get away from what people tell you about the music, and you didn't listen.
You already live in a cave
Swede here. Sabaton are not Nazi.
They might be in the way the American left uses it. The world is not Anerican politics.
They have a Zulu song ffs.
They have many Jewish songs.
They have songs for Arabs
That's just the hard spot for Americans because they are scared to speak their minds.
I'd be too
Just an FYI, I nor Americans called Sabaton Nazis. I believe when Sabaton made their album Carolous Rex, they received pushback from their own government stating they were being nationalists. I was listening to a Sabaton History video prior to this song and either Indy or Joakim had said some Swedish Nationalists took some of their (Sabaton) songs and made it into something it wasn't.
I think Sabaton is awesome but sadly many Americans don't even know about them. They should be bigger than they currently are.
Sabaton aren't even religious and they make songs about Christianity. I know they just love to make songs about history, regardless of creed, religion or country. Once again, I nor any Americans I know of, don't think Sabaton are Nazis.
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