What If Khal Drogo Lived? (Game Of Thrones)
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- One of the catalyst for change in Daenerys Targaryen was the death of her husband Khal Drogo. His death led to the end of her security, the death of her son, and the birth of her dragons. But what if the Khal had lived?
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What if aemond died trying to claim vhagar
The greens would be forced to surrender considering daemon would push rhaeyna or wich ever is dragonless to claim vhaygar the greens would bow out at maelis caraxes and vhaygar you can't fight them without maybe vermithor still on dragonstone and as for aemond he would be a footnote in the histories something along the line of aemond the dragonless vhaygar and aemond was the greens biggest power the westerlands would burn given they still raise their banners same with the reach
Oh yes such a good idea
After Laena died and they all got together for her funeral, Aemond claimed Vhaegar. Baela was angry as it was her mother's dragon and hers to claim. Baela's egg hadn't hatched. So with time it woukd have been Baela who claimed Vhaegar years before the war started.
What if Myrcella “Baratheon” married Robb Stark instead Joffrey & Sansa?
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Myrcella and robb is an interesting theory
I finished reading AGOT for the first time yesterday and thought "he should make a video for what if drogo lived.." and then the next day here it is 😭😭
If they directly attack Dragonstone, they lose, period. Stannis still has five thousand men, and unarmored light cavalry is possibly the worst pick of troops in a contested landing. Stannis's fleet launch an attack on the transports, sinking many if not most of them, the Dothraki land and get slaughtered by the Baratheon knights and crossbowmen, their cavalry completely useless in the rocky beaches of Dragonstone. That's it.
17:55 I think Barristan would push for this, but Jorah might not since he really hates Ned for forcing him to...face the consequences of his actions.
What if Alicent was baren?
What if Alicent and Rhaenyra were in a secret relationship?
What if Vaeghar ate /burned Aemond?
What if Alicent 's children didn't inherit the "dragon riding " gene?
What if Rhaenyra didn't slept with Christian Cole?
What if Daemon didn't make the "heir for a day" joke?
What if Laenor wasn't gay?
What if Christian Cole didn't kill Jofrey in the wedding party?
What if Alicent died giving birth to Aegon?
1) Viserys would have the right to divorce her and marry Laena. Otto would probably hate her for ruining his plans before deciding to try and get Rhaenyra married to his son
2) On a Rhaenicent shipper POV, yas, on a regular POV, thats gonna make things so much messier. On the one hand, at least those two cant have children but on the other hand, this isnt gonna look good on both of them and idk which side is gonna have it worse
3) I just know that the Greens will blame the Jace and Luc for his death. Like idk, they pressured Aemmond into claiming Vhagar or fed their uncle to Vhagar. Also Allicent is gonna hate Otto if he says "lets parade whats left of Aemmond for political clout"
4) Blacks have the advantage unless the Greens get a hold of some scorpion bolts, catapults and trebuchets
5) Cole might still end up leaving her because tried to pass her bastards off as legit. Like, the open marriage, he'd disapprove but go along with as long as she doesnt string him along but he draws a line at lying like that
6) Wouldnt change much tbh. Its just that the Blacks have more of an advantage since Jace, Luc and Joff are legit
7) Not much changes tbh
8) Yeah, Rhaenyra's gonna resent Viserys and Aegon more. I mean, bad enough that her mother and brother died, then her best friend died too. And if we're still going with Aegon marrying Rhae, thats gonna make her hate him more
Dany was actually always fireproof remember when they showed her touching the burning egg and her maid freaked out and burned herself taking the egg and dany wasn’t hurt at all
Also in the beginning of meeting her she goes into the scalding hot water when the maids are warning her...
Jorah's betrayal wouldn't be punished with a mere exile if Drogo was still around, so he'd never make it beyond The Wall.
What about the show hinting that she was always heat resistant? First she gets into the hot tub that the maids exclaim is too hot. Then she holds the dragon eggs from the coals. It doesn't burn her but her maid gets burned from touching them for just a second. When she says her brother wasn't the dragon because fire doesn't kill a dragon, she already knew she was fireproof. Idk if that's book cannon or not but the show foreshadowed that. I think she would have still attempted to hatch the eggs somehow. It was on her mind before Drogo got hurt
What if the mad king sent Elia ,aegon ,rhaenys away with viserys and Rhaella to dragon stone
What if George Martin completed Winds of Winter?
I've always whated this what if, but when part two of the what if Maegor the bronze dragon.
Because I can see a potential path for him, I can see that after the war in the step stones Deamon accepts Corlys offer to wed Maegor to Laena, for one reason Deamon is not an idiot he knows with Alicent marrying Viserys that time is running out not just for him an Rhaenyra but also his son, he knows that Otto will do everything he can to his grandkids on the throne, so having his son marry into the only other family that has dragons is the best option to protect themselves.
Interesting video
I think the Dothraki culture would mean that
1 alliances would be out of the question
2 They would get out thought consistently
What if Ned becomes King instead of Big Rob
You're wrong about why Drogo died in the book. He took the bandages off and rubbed horse shit on it. How is that Mary's fault. Mary steps in when he's sick.
The book is more iffy. But Mirri was happy that Drogo and Rhaego were dead. The wound was itchy and he messed with it. But I think her blood magic Ceremony went exactly the way she wanted it to.
Assaulting Dragonstone would quite possibly be the dumbest thing Daenaerys and Drogo could do, while the dothraki are fearsome on land, Stannis has enough ships to dominate Kings Landing, and that's without the forces from the Stormlands. The Dothraki are horsemen, not accustomed to the sea, they'd be useless in a seabattle, and Stannis would reap the renown for smashing them, saving Westeros from a ravaging horde and finishing what Robbert started, que massive morale boost and heavy. Heck, the North would be quite happy to hear that Jorah Mormont is no more (With Stannis' mindset, Jorah will get executed for slavery).
Btw: What if The Westerlings gained ownership of the Reyne lands and mines a few years before the series?
What if Jon took iron throne
When in the finale?
🤣🤣 he’s a bastard
If he lived and made it to westeros, he wouldn't have thrown all of his Calvary away on that idiotic first charge against the night kings army and would have told Danny to burn the damn things instead.
Killing him season 1 was for money. he cost too much.
Yes I’ve been waiting for this!!!
I think a big thing that you did not consider is how would the horde be fed once it makes it to Dorne? Dorne is a desert, a place where the horses would have a tough time being fed.
While Danny is learning politics and pondering alliances, I could see Drogo taking his Khalasar to the Reach to feed them and raid. This would draw Renly's armies away (as long as Stannis hasn't already assassinated him) because he would have to defend High Garden. I could see this leading to a pitched battle with Renly's weakened army after many raids by the Dothraki. Renly's army would most likely be destroyed during this battle, which leads the Khalasar to likely move north towards the River Lands.
Now, Tywin is stuck between Robb's army and a horde of Dothraki, with no extra reinforcements from Renly's disbanded cause. The Battle of the Black Water would then ensue as it does normally, only Stannis would win. Even with Stannis's army shattered by the Wild Fire, he still had the power to take King's Landing. The battle was all but lost when Tywin rode in. Therefore, in this scenario, Stannis takes the Iron Throne and rules for a time (also Cersei, Marcella, Tommen, Joffrey, and Tyrion would be put to the sword or die of poisoning). Stannis would also get custody of Sansa, who could then be used as a bargaining chip to get Robb on his side. This creates an arguably stronger alliance than any hypothetical marriage pact Danny could form.
Tywin would be left to the wolves per say, because Dorne would never accept an alliance with him and he's definitely not forming an alliance with Stannis, who just killed his strongest ties to the throne. Tywin would likely be destroyed swiftly (though he might see the writing on the wall and bend the knee, but I think he's too prideful for that), and there would be no Red Wedding because Walder Frey would never have the backing of the Lannisters.
Now we have an attritioned alliance between Robb and Stannis (and whatever remnants of Renly's army is left) versus the Dothraki and Dorne.
The Iron Islands would probably still raid and take the north because they believe that the Dothraki wouldn't be able to take the Iron Islands (crossing water, terrain that's not advantageous for cavalry to fight on, and nothing to eat ["we do not sow"]) and Robb and Stannis would be too focused on the Dothraki to retaliate. Theon likely will act the same as he did in the cannon timeline by taking Winterfell, or at the very least failing to get an alliance/negotiate a truce between the North and the Iron Island.
I don't see Robb and Stannis winning this based off of Robert's correct assessment of a Dothraki invasion. The Dothraki will raid the small folk, while Robb and Stannis hold up in whatever castles they can. The Dornish would then be able to siege any castle Robb and Stannis try to defend. They could potentially retreat to the twins, but with the Iron Islands holding the North and Moat Cailin, there's not much more to retreat to. Roose Bolton would likely betray Robb at this point in an effort to get on Danny's good side and take the North, though that's a bit of a rabbit hole with all of the different directions he could go. It's kind of a toss up if the Vale will come to help Robb and Stannis, maybe a marriage between Sansa and Robin might do it but that wouldn't change the outcome at all.
Ultimately the Iron Throne will be taken by Danny, but her rule would be short as many assassins would come for her. The lords and small folk alike will hate her and the destruction she brought. I could see this scenario ending with the Seven Kingdoms reverting back to how they were before Aegon, the conqueror who united all*, while Danny will be remembered as the conqueror who destroyed all. In this scenario everyone loses, but Dorne and maybe the Greyjoys and the Boltons (again that's part of the rabbit hole).
I know at this point in the story, Danny as a character wouldn't endorse the total war, but I believe once Drogo has tasted blood she'll end up being swept along in the tide. Only to be blamed in the end for everything. It would be poetic for Barriston to be the one to assassinate both her and Drogo, but I haven't really brainstormed how he would fit into all of this.
I think youre mostly right, but idk how dothraki will feel about attempting sieges when they could just roam and pillage.
I think after stannis takes the throne (he might even be able to come up with a way to defeat them)
The dothraki will start dying of attrition, war exhaustion from a prolonged campaign on a hostile continent but almost certainly mutiny against Drogo.
They will eventually want to return to their own continent and sacred city and don't give 2 shits about Dany so she will either be abandoned or have her army ripped apart from infighting. The Dornish might tire of fighting along side them too watching them go around graping every woman in the continent.
Anyways if Dany can't take the throne quickly her armies days are numbered.
She can't siege kings landing as they don't have ships to blockade it since either stannis or the redwynes will have naval superiority by this point.
Dany L.
In the books, he was gentle with her and did not r her on the wedding night.
Daenarys showed she was fireproof PRIOR to the drogo funeral the whole point of her grabbing the egg scene was to show that
And even further back the first time we see her she is getting into a tub that her maid warns her is too hot
What if Daemon was made hand
Always enjoy your videos ❤
How about you just have Jorah use some boiled wine and a simple Westeros poultice on him instead of blood magic?
Then, I don't think Barristan joins her, without Dragons, so I don't see Jorah being discovered. I don't believe Varys/Illyios spread their resources.
I think Varys probably convinces Selmy that Jaime killed the mad king before Rhagar died on the Trident.
Meaning he was King before he died and that Griff is the rightful King, skipping Dany, plus he's a male.
This would mean Aegon gets Connington, Selmy, and Tyrion(Tyrion isn't gonna give a crap about Dany without dragons, and sticks with team Griff)
Faegon also gets Dorne, not Dany, No Marriage pact for a married Khaleesi, generations removed from Dorne Vs. Elia's supposed child
Without the dragons, Faegon gets a lot stronger while Dany and the Dothraki become a minor annoyance.
They are great warriors and horsemen, but lightly armored and get smoked by archers and knights in plate armor before they get off the beach wherever they make landfall(they only have Jorah, a wanted man as the only guy with real knowledge of Westeros) but Especially if they go against the Mannis Sorry gang, all that Dany has, is because of Drogo's death.
Daenerys went into a boiling bath in the beginning of the show she’s always been unburnable
The Dragons were also resurrected while the RED COMET proclaiming dragons was in the sky which had something to do with it. Those eggs had petrified to stone and needed all the magic to bring them to life. If the Dotraki are slaving and raping then I doubt Barriston Selmy would support Dany. And she gets to Westeros earlier. Stannis did really well againt the much larger Wildling army. I could see Dorne in an alliance against the Lannisters and Baratheon. And if Eddard is not dead then Robb has not been named King. But no Dragons. GoT would be completely different without dragons.
Stannis : put the horse lord husband aside he wont understand whats happening mary me ill put aside my wife mary me and i will help you take backnyour anfestoral seat under the name baratheon
What if Robert Baratheon pardoned Jaime from the kings guard
Daemon gets hit with fire arrow and gets burned, then later flys through vhagars fire which would be the hottest flame in Westeros’s so maybes he’s just immune to dragon fire
And this is before you even get to the biggest what if of all: What if Dany does “win” the Iron Throne? Wouldn’t Drogo demand to rule Wouldn’t he change rules left and right? How could a Dothraki horse lord be expected to watch his wife rule the seven kingdoms?
The brutality vs the civilization aint really that big of a point. Yes Drogo would be brutal as king but that would mostly effect just kingslanding. Look at the Yuan the mongol dynasty in China, they were brutal and savage, but for the common people outside the capitol they were just another monarchy.
The Mongols murdered people by the hundreds of thousands. They depopulated entire regions. Common people too
On the topic of danny being fire proof I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure it's a bloodline that not every Family member gets it very rare and only few get it.. also the bond between dragon and ride is way more deep longer life span immune to illness but if ur dragon dies u lose all the benefits
Smartest decision make an alliance with dorne n land their n make an agreement with the north.
Great video btw
What if jon wanted the iron throne
What if daemon and caraxes lived what if young griff or aegon hatched a Dragon what if ores was a targaryen
This might be what happens, assuming Daemon and Caraxes are both fully healthy and still capable of fighting. Aemond, Daeron, Jaehaerys, Maelor, Hugh Hammer, and Ulf White are all dead along with Vhagar, Tessarion, Shrykos, Vermithor, while Silverwing is riderless. This would eliminate a lot of current and potential future threats to Daemon and his line.
Something I think would change is Aegon II does still die but he probably dies sooner in 130 AC instead of 131 AC. After Daemon could rally some more Blacks supporters, him and Caraxes most likely return to Dragonstone to take it back and free Baela. Unfortunately Moondancer would still die in this scenario, but the good news is that a crippled Aegon II and a severely injured Sunfyre wouldn't be much of a fight for Daemon and Caraxes.
Another major change that would happen is that this would prevent Rhaenyra's death and Aegon's III trauma. Aegon III would still become king eventually but his character would probably change for the better. He would have both parents raising him to make him a more stronger and capable king. I also think Jaehara still dies at an early age, and he ends up marrying and having children with Daenaera. Because Rhaenyra, Daemon, and Aegon III are all still alive and remember the Dance of the Dragons, they would steer away from conflict. So Aegon's III son Daeron I would never end up dying in Dorne and would live long enough to have children of his own and continue Aegon's III line.
Long term effects would be Aegon's III brother Viserys II and his line never ascend the throne. That means no Blackfyre Rebellions. I think Daemon Waters is still born but he never becomes Daemon Blackfyre because his father Aegon the unworthy never becomes king. At the end of this scenario Caraxes, Sheepstealer, Morning, and Silverwing are still alive without Aegon III developing a hate for dragons. Its possible somebody claims Silverwing and the Dragons lay more eggs and never go extinct, which could prevent The Tragedy at Summerhall, Robert's Rebellion, and The Greyjoy Rebellion.
I apologize for the long comment, but that's how I think the "what if" scenario could potentially play out had Daemon and Caraxes lived. Feel free to poke holes in my comment, I'm pretty sure there is at least 1 thing I may have gotten wrong. I've got nothing for Aegon VI/Young Griff though, since I've only read Fire and Blood and GOT.
What if Ned is killed by Arthur Dayne who takes Jon and raises him?
Jon's life would have been so very different. Raised in Starfall with the Dayne's. There woukd have been no need to say he was a bastard, Arthur Dayne was a Kingsguard and couldn't say he fathered him. Jon probably would have been raised as an orphan. Catelyn wouldn't have treated him as an outcast, he wouldn't have joined the Night's watch, but he also wouldn't have Ghost. Would he have aspired to be a Kingsguard like Arthur Dayne?
The focus would never be on her being Queen the focus will be on getting her son on the throne so I didn't matter if people would follow her or not they would be following the Sun that she has so none of that would apply nobody would see her as the ruling Queen people will see her As the mother of the rifle king
Re-read and re-Watch Drogos pledge. He will take the iron chair for his SON. Drogo likes Dany because she’s good in bed and gets pregnant with his prophecy baby. If Drogo and Rhaego didn’t die, Dany would be a footnote in Simone else’s history book.
What if Viserys ' last words was about Rhaenyra and the prophecy?
What if Aegon successfully escaped?
What if Jace was betrothed to marry Baela and Halaena at the same time?
Danerys in the show was unburnt before meeting drogo. Yes Targaryens in history are not fire proof but the show runners hinted that she was probably unburnt in the scene where she took a very hot bath
And the egg scene
The Targs seem to be heat-proof to some extent(see Dunk and Egg), but yeah, they're definitely not fireproof.
What if someone claimed The Cannibal
Where's his prequel from when he was just an Essos Valley Pimp?
What if both Rhaegar and Robert died on Trident and loajalist won the Battle and war
What if Stannis chose to fight for Aerys instead of Robert?
What if the friendship betwen aerys II and tywin never ended ?
Dude. Love your video , but take a alternative timeline path and stick with it , not more perhaps and maybey and 3 or 4 scenarios for each moment
What if Viserys died right after naming Rhaenyra his Heir?
Nothing, because he has no other childs.
Would they really go to westeros. It looked to me like deany loved the way she loved with the Dothraki befor Drogo died.
The war of the six rulers or monarchs.
What if Cersei's twin was a female?
Khal Drogo would have killed Jon Snow.
What if Robb lived or Joffrey lived or viserys lived
What if that boar had killed rhaneyra in Kingswood
I live what ifs🙂
What if joffrey married shireen
I'm sorry but 80% of the video- stuff we already know + recap, 10% of video - minor speculation, 10%- actual content advertised
Yeah thats how what if videos tend to work
@@mariovsspongebob56536 have to disagree there... What if videos can flesh out a new story, why not expand more upon the dornish alliance build a short plot around it
@@shantanusengupta1749 hes trying to lean on the story being accurate and trying to avoid making a fanfic. But i agree the videos should be longer.
What if Lucerys Surviced
Hard to say, in the show Rhaenyra was more reasonable. In the books she blamed the Greens for the miscarriage of her daughter.
Great Channel and stories, but I think you put way too many scenarios into your story and makes it seem convoluted with too many outcomes. Stick to one story line instead of going off on a tangent about:”well if this happens, or that happens than this could happen, but let’s go with this happening” too much fluff
I don't think Dorne would ally with Daenerys if she came to Westeros as the wife of a Kahl. The Dornish drink their respect women juice, the Dothraki - don't. It think the culture clash would be too much for them to work together. In the show Daenerys could curb the Dothraki because dragons but with no dragons and no real authority of her own I think the Dothraki would do what the Dothraki do and she wouldn't find allies anywhere because of their behavior. The Westerosi like to think of themselves as more civilized so none of them would want to ally with raping marauding savages (even though their own armies do their fair share of raping and marauding). The actual moral high ground that the Westerosi would hold, and the major sticking point, would be that Westeros is majorly anti-slavery. So if the Dothraki did what they always do and took slaves then Daenerys wouldn't find friends anywhere.
this is the worst what if smh none of what you said makes sense. its all scattered and sounds like a big filler. this straight crap
Will rhaego get a dragon egg
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If the dothraki attacked Dragonstone without any Support, 200 defenders would be enough to kill every single one of Them