Okay EVER AFTER HIGH - The end of DRAGON GAMES was all I ever wanted
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sorry it’s so cropped in! I hope u enjoy it anyway 💙
Hiii
You should know that although the writers wanted to give Apple White her Sapphic character development they were not allowed to because angry parents and media CEOs suck. The kiss is never mentioned again, like it never happened... and then the series got canceled. It's disappointing and every day I just wish for a reboot, but anyways.
You should listen to Little Miss Perfect because eventhough it was basically adopted by The Owl House Fandom, I feel like it really reflects Apple's character, and it gives me some headcanon closure for the show :)
pls carry on ur ever after high :(
@neonaesthetixx6216YES YOU TOTALLY SHOULD EPIC WINTER IS FABULOUS
Pls do the winter episodes I think its called "Epic winter"
Mathew: "The whole kiss thing got spoiled"
DISHONOUR! DISHONOUR ON THEM! DISHONOUR ON THEIR COWS!
lol, well his thumbnail is likely going to spoil it for some people…
You can literally see it in the first episode
Them: I must restore my honor and capture the avatar!
MY HONOUR - Zuko
Wow. The way Mathew went from "He's so annoying I hate him." to this 9:45 . Character developement fr
So some stuff to try and explain your questions at the end:
Regarding the evil queen not being upset about being back in mirror prison, and instead is happy with raven is raven did something that could be framed as evil (fighting her own mother for “personal gain”) which, as stated in the books, was the only thing that made the evil queen really pay attention to raven.
The apple darling kiss: what must be remembered was dragon games came out before some of the bigger steps in lgbtq show representation, and Mattel’s main focus was selling dolls, not making steps towards representation
And finally, absolutely bring on epic winter!
Thank you for coming to my tale talk
1 - I think the Evil Queen is used to being defeated by now, knowing how most fairytales end and she might be more proud of the strength in Raven then what she actually does.
2 - I think Mattel wouldn’t let them say it explicitly that it was a true love’s kiss, even thought it was confirmed later.
3 - I think you should watch the winter special if you really enjoy Daring, because he’s arc is the more interesting one and there are some fun villains in the movie
Love watching ur reactions to Ever After High!! I hope they bring it back, miss watching the episodes 😞
Mathew I think you should totallyy watch the next special!! It deeper explores other stories and it’s a beautiful cinematic masterpiece. ALSO we get some development from Daring which I think you’ll find quite funny. We even get to see more of Briar and Ashlyn❤
The eps after dragon games is amazing the dynamics change afterwards
It's kind of nice apple still followed her story without raven
Yes, watch the winter Ever after high episode. It is amazing.
I would love to see you react to the next season. Other characters get to shine more especially daring charming. Which I know you would have the best reaction for
You have to watch Epic Winter
I just realized but...they never thought about asking Dexter charming. Like it has to be a charming but they didn't think about the other charmings
I like the winter arc. I think it's worth the watch.
I feel like Ever After High: Epic Winter is worth watching mostly because Daring Charming discovers his destiny!!!
After watching this, need to see Matthew reacting the Descendants films next.
Apple and Darling are not lesbians, I don´t see the kiss as a love kiss, specially considering how neither of them are attracted in any way to the other, but as Darling is desire to save her life because they are friends, and from my point of view that is the purest and most beautiful form of love.
right on time for dinner !!
You should definitely watch epic winter!!!
I say watch Epic Winter to finish it off, it has its good moments!
Please keep watching ever after high!!
ive been waiting for ages for u to react the kiss' scenes
To all of u who spoiled the kiss for him...
you suck.
Real. Spoilers suck fr
So annoying fr
fr the main reason i watched was because i was waiting for his surprised reaction
@@lisacopeland6872same, I can’t believe someone ruined it for him
How u know?
don't forget to tell your kids ....
THAT WAS NOT CPR
It was TRUE KISS!!
XD somehow 90% of all shows i am seeing recently is just lgbtq+...
man, love the owl house....
You could always tell them sisterly love is her true love 😂
yep! one of the people that worked on the show said that it was indeed meant to be lgbtq+ :D
FR
Epic Winter is still pretty good, it's just unfortunately placed as the finale due to the series closing rather quickly after it was released. There are great arcs for multiple characters, but they also try fitting in a lot at once, without really focusing on Apple and Raven anymore. If it was just another part of the series, it wouldn't have been received so poorly, it's just not quite the ending you would expect, but it was beyond the studio's control thanks to lower sales and the rise of Disney's Descendants at the same time.
I agree! Would love to see a reaction of Epic winter as well!
I would also love if he actually reacted the shorts after he finishes that special, there’s still quite a lot of lore and story involved in there which is why matthew was so confused with some details and characters in the specials, so hopefully he sees them too eventually so he knows they aren’t plot holes
There's also the children of Jack Frost. Also.... there's that weird subplot where Faybelle is in debt to the mafia. Who are literally Italian fairies
Yes I would love to see him react to epic winter as well but I agree it's just the bad timing
Agreed! The arc does feel weird as the last season, which was unfortunately because they canceled the show. Otherwise it is a great way to see the development of some characters, including Daring after losing his way and feeling like he has no purpose. It also has one of the best music videos imo. I just love that song. ^^
If they had continued the story after Epic Winter it would have definitely flowed better with more to come later on and if they had given it a bit more ep too.
Darling x Apple shippers rise up! It’s finally our time!
Also bring on Epic Winter, it is actually really good. At least to me 🌹❄️
Yes he should watch Epic Winter
Yes in my opinion its so good and it gives both Daring and Faybell character growth
YESSS
Yess
definitely, until he said so I didn't realize there was a debate over it
No they straight up don’t ever talk about it. They talk about how it WASN’T Daring but not that it WAS Darling.
So when the Story Book of Legends was "destroyed". It actually wasn't. Raven set the legends free. Thus allowing the descendants of all the legends the ability to go against them. But that doesn't change the fact that these Legends have magical weight. So Apple Whites Legend is that she will be poisoned and a Charming will awaken her with a kiss. So a Charming has a magic inside themselves to counter the evil magic from the poison apple.
It just wasn’t daring charming because he wasn’t her Prince Charming. It was Darling charming as her Prince Charming and/or princess charming. Or should we say knight in shiny armor since if we remember correctly, darling is the white knight. It showed that in the way too wonderland part of ever after high.
@@Natalia_Nati_Nutella You’re right it wasn’t just Daring, but everyone believed it was him. Everyone believed that Daring Charming was Apple White’s Prince Charming along with them. You can see how the knowledge that he isn’t devastated him.
Ah yes, the reveal that Apple's Charming is Darling. Wondrous and magnificent
My head canon is that this was the shows way of saying Apple’s lesbian
@@melodystarlight7933I have a headcanon that she used to like girls when she was small, her mom found out and didn’t like it so apple convinced herself to be straight and like boys when actually she didn’t
It’s why they canceled the show lmfao
@@carbs_r_delishI thought it was because Descendants was getting popular
@@carbs_r_delish nope. They canceled because descendants stole all their customers so they started making drastically less money so they had to cancel eah
If was infact confirmed by one of the writers that Darling is Apple's true love! Let's go lesbians!!! let's go!!
You are wrong. They specifically said that Darling is not Apple’s ever after in the book she doesn’t even do mouth to mouth. Stop saying things just because you like the ship
@@CyanHopein the book they did lmao but they said irl in terms of the show that it was true loves kiss that daring gave apple
@@CyanHope How are you gonna deny it when the WRITERS confirmed it lol
it's their character - if they wanna change something they can
But cry abt it I guess
@@CyanHopeGirl just say you're homophobic 😂
But how Apple can be a lesbian? She was flirting with guys entire time and never was flirting with girls. I love Darling for being a girly lesbian but Apple is bisexual I guess.
I would recommend watching the winter series of episodes. There's some interesting Daring development
@@Natalia_Nati_Nutella do you see a spoiler? I gave less information than a Netflix blurb
Fun Fact: Faybelle was able to unlock the booking glass bc she's a dark fairy. Her mother is maleficent and is Briar's villain :)
And Epic Winter is okay ig. It has good moments but the plot is ify
Not maleficent from disney
@@whatinthewonderland_97 it's originally the dark fairy
10:40 the shape looks like a heart to me. Darling is darings sister, meaning she would probably fill the role of someone’s Prince Charming. It’s likely that as long as they are both destined to be together, gender and sexuality doesn’t really matter. Like dexter likes raven but can’t really express it because it’s not destiny. The reason they react like that is because it wasn’t daring like everyone assumed.
There’s also a line early on that might be hinting at this. When goldie asks if apple and daring are saying yet, apple says “we have forever after to be together” implying she doesn’t really like him but will date him if it’s destiny. This could possibly be hinting she’s secretly lesbian but is denying it herself. Apple is a gay icon I love her everyone can fight me on this.
Also definitely watch more. I really like the rest of this series, and I feel you should form your own opinion!
Surely she could be bi or pan (or any other sexuality that covers men and women)? It seems like that sort of thing really doesn’t matter in Ever After High
It's just the poison smoke and it ain't a heart or Apple bro
I completely agree. Her relationship with Daring was something for destiny. She liked him, but not romantically and she made it clear by not dating him lol. It screened comphet. Which makes sense cause tons of lesbians have been with men or thought they liked men because of comphet.
@@crushedpea0978 yes but the way she doesn’t actually want to date daring screams lesbian comphet to me
@@Darlyy_Slayz as yes the classic “poison smoke”. Be so for real right now. It might not be a shape but poison doesn’t give off smoke
I’m actually FUMING people spoiled the kiss for you the first reaction to it is always amazing😭
12:34 - He asked how did she know the code, well, Faybelle is the daughter of Maleficent and Maleficent is a dark Fairy, and idk who sayed it but the Magic Mirror is a magical item produced by the dark Fairys and only them know the code, so yeah
I always thought Her incantation was more like a magical master key
PLEASE KEEP WATCHING THE SHOW- ITLL BE WORTH IT 😫 ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET TO THE WINTER WONDERLAND SEASON
Agree EPIC WINTER is well EPIC!
I remember watching your videossss
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Please keep watching Ever After High! What comes next is definitely worth watching
Whoever spoiled the kiss seriously needs to stfu
I wish we could have been shown Apple's reaction to finding out her destiny gave her a sapphic relationship
If you tell me that kiss Was CPR your lying to me cause this is a Storybook tv show magic kiss =True love kiss
Actually it's a CPR Snow White never needed a True Love's kiss at at all only CPR could save Apple at that point
@@Darlyy_Slayzover a choke? You don’t give someone cpr when they’re choking, you give them the Heimlich. And before you say “it’s a kids show so it doesn’t matter” well it does cause if that’s the case then it being true loves kiss makes perfect sense for a kids show.
no
@@undercoverfangirl5491 dude shut up
@@Darlyy_Slayzit wasn't and was confirmed by the writers that it was true love. Can't do CPR with five seconds of mouth to mouth either, that's just not how that works
AAAAA THE GAYS HAVE WON
Also, nah, personally the specials after dragon games aren't that bad but it's not as good as before but it does explore more about Daring Charming
no they didnt. its cpr
@@reggielacey2235they confirmed the kiss, the writers confirmed it was a true loved kiss. And they didn't say darling they said daring the PRINCE. they're talking about how daring ends up with someone else in epic winter 🤦🏻♀️ get your eyes checked
I would deffo watch Epic Winter for the character development but also check out all the shorts you skipped! Like the “Through the Woods” arc I think it’s called? It’s basically when Cupid and friends go on a fun trip to the fae forest but they get lost and run into a lot of shenanigans
Imagine the evil queen being way more supportive in her daughters accomplishments through her own way but the “fair Snow White” literally shows less empathy for her own daughter and priorities her own reputation.
LITERALLY RAN HERE
HOPE UR PHONE IS OK THEN
Straight up sprinted
I actually liked Epic Winter, so I hope you will react to that too...and it kinda continue Daring Charming story in a way...
So, Apple and Darling *were*supposed to have a canon relationship but homophobic midia and stuff.
And PLEASE watch the Epic Winter its so gooood
Darling x Apple lives on forever in our hearts
@@singingofsilverand fanfic
@@undercoverfangirl5491 and fanfic, our lord and saviour
no. thats a lie. u have zero proof of that
@reggielacey2235 the proof is literally darling kiss waking up apple. If that was cpr, that cpr is so late apple would've been dead
ALSO!! pretty sure it was confirmed somewhere on Twitter that darling x Apple is cannon! it's supposed to be Prince CHARMING! her last name is charming, she could've easily taken the role (think about it, if it was just CPR that could wake her. anyone could've done it! even daring!)
Then later one of the creators also said that Unfortunately Darling isn't Apple's Prince(ess) Charming so there's no confirmation
@@Darlyy_Slayz whaaat? oh noo :( i never saw that part
Yep that's what happened@@sxur_mochas7190
ONE writer said it so not canon
@@reggielacey2235 Yes
The next/last chapter of Ever After High has a lot of great songs. I would say to watch the season just for that, but also Daring has some things happen to him that is hilarious.
Personally, I think "The Winter Special" or whatever it was called, been a while since I watched it lol, is worth watching. It wraps up a lot of characters character arcs in a pretty smooth way, especially Darings. Though I do believe the plot falls a bit, it's worth it for all the character moments. I think it was a pretty good send-off for the series, even if it wasn't supposed to be.
No matter how evil the Evil Queen is... she will always love her daughter. The only thing that she wants more than take over the land is that Raven becomes like her and that is something that both elates and frustrates her at the same time, since she can see how Raven is like her, but still wants to be good. You know, the reason why Raven is good is her father, the Good King. He always incentivated Raven's kind side, despite her destiny.
also to answer your question about the book being destroyed, at the end of way too wonderland it's said that the pages are all returned to the characters themselves so no one can steal their destiny by signing a page that isn't theirs. this doesn't mean that none of the stories can come true now, it just means the decision of whether or not these stories come true is up to the person that story belongs to.
The writers have confirmed that the scene was supposed to be gay but they had to make it look like CPR because apparently we only exist to accommodate conservatives. As someone who has suffered from comphet I would have absolutely loved Apple's story of realising her sexuality and the harm that hetero normality can do, but no the bloody thing got shelved and the final season didn't even feature Apple or Darling at all
They didn't confirm that only ONE writer did
dude stfu nobody cares
@@Darlyy_Slayzactually a few. But only one clarified the gay thing. The others just said a vague “remember a true loves kiss is the only thing that could cure the spell”
The writers, animators, and sound designers did not have to go this hard. They put their whole souls into this.
Please do EPIC WINTER because it'll give more depth to Faybelle , Rosabella and Daring
10:55 we think it was a failed attempt to slide it by the religious parents
Epic Winter does give some form of closure to the series. Daring gets his new destiny. Faybelle finally learns to deal with her own mess ups. We get to meet new characters and go to new places. Most of the people who watched it didn't like it because it still has a cliffhanger for more stuff, but I think it's pretty good.
Please don't stop yet, Epic Winter is the only movie left and it's one of my favorites. I'm not a big dragon games fan so I've been waiting for you to get through it and get to that one. Please please please finish the series.
Okay here’s what you need to know about epic winter!
The focus is on background characters we see through the show accepting and changing their destinies which gives a lot of character growth to one background character in particular. I personally like it and think it’s a cute side story but if you want raven drama she’s not really in it. However, it’s still cute and I would recommend watching it :)
Finally it's here
the plot twist of plot twists
the gay plot twist
they arent gay
@@reggielacey2235bros so against the idea of apple and darling being together he had to spam the comment section 😭
I LOVE the Evil Queen.... "That's my girl!" She's SOOO CUTE lol🫣😂
Honestly I quite like Epic Winter, especially for Daring Charming's development.
I would recommend still watching, specially the winter arc because Daring has a big character development and it's amazing to see
I always thought that the explanation for why Darlings kiss worked was because a hero was supposed to kiss Apple, and Darling was always more of a hero than Daring.
Looking at it now it doesn’t seem to be as relevant as her being Apple’s destined love, but it’s still a nice headcanon I think
Actually that is the truth and it was CPR
I can't believe it took me this long but I think Evil Queen does genuinely care about Raven in the "I need to show you what the real world is like so you don't get hurt and betrayed by others" kind of way.
Like she cares but she's going about it the way she was taught which is not what Raven wants. In the books, Raven actually prefers her dad for that reason 😅
You should definitely watch epic winter! Daring even has some character development.
TY FOR POSTING WHILE I HAVE DINNER I WAS THINKING OF WHAT TO WATCH 😍🙏🏻
ur v welcome hope u enjoy ur food
My personal theory is it isn't about destiny nor sexual orientation, but about worthiness. Does anyone that took a second look at Daring thinks that he's THE Prince Charming in fairy tales? I think not! Out of the 3 Charmings only Darling has the quality of Prince Charming, hence her ability to break curses.
P. S. Do watch Epic Winter the last EAH movie, if you want to see some sliver of growth for Daring.
Apple and Darling CPR scene is SUPER interesting, and something (to me) that made the pathway for more open LGBT rep, now there is more LGBT rep in shows then I can count which is amazing, but at the time this was out, not many shows had that many and that was due to strict rules, so I always found it interesting on how they portrayed this kiss
Also I have to give credit to the Evil Queen and how she is soo camp it makes a full circle to empowering, with the rules that this universe follows, she really does fit the role so well
I hate how lesbians are represented in games and movies. In kid shows there is a lot potential for good lesbian stories.
@@Icy-be5vl Especially in stories like this, I really wished that they could've explored this avenue more before it was canned
@@baalgodofrain Me too.
@@Icy-be5vlShe-Ra is amazing when it comes to the representation. They have a married gay couple, they have a married lesbian couple, they have non binary characters and they have some that I think are trans, I heard that they are but it isn't said in the show, tho usually you don't tell random people that you are trans so it makes sense. That show is just a wonder and the story is great too, I would really recommend watching it. I also think the creators confirmed that there are 3 characters that are together in a poly relationship.
@@ixagonczi I already was watching it. One TH-camr I know. She loves She-Ra and I respect that but much more I prefer Winx.
About Faybelle, she is the Daughter of the Evil Fairy......you know, the one that cursed the Sleeping Beauty because she was slighted by the king and queen of the kingdom. They can trust Faybelle because she is a lot like her own mom, if she feels slighted she will pull a the enemy of my enemy is my ally till all is done ... And the evil queen really ticked her off
Daring gets a character arc after this so if you're interested in watching a man have a reality check, I advise watching.
The Charmings are a clan with a lot of members and it's not really known befoehand who will be whose prince. Daring made the assumptioion that hevwas apple's prince but it turns out that his destiny lies elsewhere. We still also don't know Dexter's destiny.
Did I watch this reaction series only to see Matthew's reaction to lesbians? No. No, I didn't. You have no proof!
She's not saying Raven is evil like her, she is manipulating her. She's saying your power have grown more than I thought, you have the capacity for evil!
epic winter!! it shows character growth with daring!! also introduces characters!
I think the next section of ever after high is really fun, it doesn’t necessarily end the series but I always loved watching it.
Your Ever After High reactions had me realising sth sad...
I recorded Dragon Games on the tv when I was a kid to watch it more often. Than I saw your reaction, specificly the part where Apple gets poisen and I was like: Wait I don't remember that part🤔
Than I rewatched the recording and realised that they had cut the *complete storyline* of Apple getting poisend!
Like why? 😭
No way !!?? Maybe bc of the kiss ? :(
@@bluum1ng maybe? 🤷🏽♀️
**Apple and Snow, mother and daughter, happily reuniting and seeing the other is ok**
Mathew: "But wait Snow is still an evil corporate overlord"
No Mathew she isnt. She doesnt always make the best decisions since she's not perfect, much like her daughter, but that doesnt make her evil.
I would recommend the Winter series of Ever After! It’s my personal favorite, and it has some character development for Daring and some others
The final battle is unnecessarily awesome especially the music
I would say that epic winter is worth it to watch, but just go in knowing that they still won't address anything from this episode. I can't believe this show got cancelled 😭
Even if Epic Winter isn’t a great ending for the series, I still like it and would love to see your reaction to it! And any of the webisodes you have left. Watching you react to ever after high is always so much fun!
im SO excited for ur reaction to epic winter i rlly hope u love it
im p sure it is creator stated canon that darling is apples true love WOOO LESBIANS
Evil queen is too iconic to hate 😭
I love how whenever the mothers show affection for their daughters or vice versa, because you know they are their mothers still, Matthew just cant seem to comprehend that.
That even through shit times, mothers and daughters, or any family members really, can still care for each other because deep down they are still family.
Evil Queen: "Thats my girl!"
Mathew: "So wait is she happy she's imprisoned?"
**Raven visiting her mom in prision**
Mathew: "Why are you going to see her?!"
That was not CPR 100%
Actually it was and only a CPR makes sense at this point
The fact that Apple asked Where's Raven and of Daring woke her up still implies she didn't care about Darling I wouldn't be surprised if she asked Darling "Wait who are you?" Darling deserves better it was CPR and they aren't canon
P.S watch Epic Winter!!! Although the plot isn't great it's got our Daring Charming in it
Omg finally the last part I honestly love this show
10:48 yeah unfortunately there was one or a couple creators that wanted to have Darling and Apple as a couple but they were told that it was “too soon” - essentially they chickened out but obvi heavily implied cuz we find out Darings destiny is elsewhere anyways
I would recommend Epic Winter manly to see more of Daring’s character development
One way people get around spoilers is that they request that their followers (who actually care and are decent people) comment fake spoilers so that you can’t tell the real from the fake
Remember Raven said the Booking glass could only be open by a pass code or Dark Fairy magic which Faebell has because her mother is Maleficent
You should continue watching the series the next season gives more lore “on the kiss” more so on why it didn’t work with a daring but still gives good information
11:53 "Where's her mother Mathew? Could she be a snake" is such a great moment😂
Btw there is only one more season/ story. Epic Winter. It touches on the whole Apple + Daring/Darling thing and then also give Daring some SERIOUS character development. It's also just fun ahah. I liked all the seasons tbh. Way too wonderland and Dragon Games were my top tho :>
But overall yeah, you should watch Epic Winter.
ALSO Daring did input the code last episode. He cleaned the mirror and somehow put the code in before saying the password
Epic Winter has great character arcs for a few of the characters so i think it would be worth reacting to
1:28 The IASIP references are killing me. They are funny!!! 😂😂 Goddamn!! Keep bring more in your videos.
Ah yes, one of my favourite plot twists in TV has finally been seen
10:30 some people (most people?) interpret this as a “true love’s kiss” thing. I personally don’t vibe with that. Firstly, I feel like with the deletion of Storybook of Legends, there’s no true love or destined love, not without actually having fallen in love. And they’ve barely talked. School friends at most. And secondly, I don’t like when shows are like “and here’s some gay… and now back to normal.” I would rather characters be either gay or straight from the very beginning, and we never have these random moments of “maybe?”
And I would prefer no tomboy lesbian relationships in games. Apple and Darling actually has a lot potential.
I kind of agree
GAY!!! GAY!!! GAY!!! GAY!!!
I remember "Epic Winter" being really good when I was younger. It had some great character development and character relationships, so I would love it if you gave it a shot!