Dragon Games! : Ever After High REVIEW

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  • @skrrtskrrt4681
    @skrrtskrrt4681 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +519

    This might be an unpopular opinion but I think Apple's regression made sense. A lot of people bring up her development from the past specials but forget one crucial factor in her bad choices in Dragon Games: her mother. All of Apple's epiphanies took place AWAY from Snow White, the woman who practically raised her to be a successor and nothing else. So, it makes sense that Apple would revert back to her old ways, the ways her mother taught her, when Snow basically told her "Girl, you're flopping so hard. You're supposed to be my daughter, don't ruin our legacy". Context matters, people!

    • @jazzsnail
      @jazzsnail 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

      I think one reason why that doesn't exactly work is because of the execution of Apple's choises at least potrayed by this video. If they would have more heavily leaned into her mother being the reason why she was reverting I think it could have been really cool and liked even more. Like rather than have her sad about high school not being like she thought it would be, have her be conflicted about not really standing up for herself and maybe her own destiny like most of her friends more or less are. I think it would make the later poison apple scene even more hard hitting, because the moment she actually decides to chase her own destiny and help her friends, she would be forced under the destiny made for her.

  • @Phantom6.6.6
    @Phantom6.6.6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +349

    Bloody Mary is a cool idea. I have always assumed they thought "mira shards" was the daughter of the magic mirror

    • @m13nightrAin
      @m13nightrAin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      OH THATS SMART

    • @EnviousJudyOfficial
      @EnviousJudyOfficial 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Ur pfp reminds me of Kyubey

    • @223kat
      @223kat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@EnviousJudyOfficialit’s the human design, it might’ve appeared in one of the movies but it might be just artist designs

  • @lyraenza
    @lyraenza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +297

    "Raven I can't believe you're still not out of that phase. Being good! Helping others! You're not even emo anymore!"
    -The Evil Queen probably

  • @lyraenza
    @lyraenza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +565

    Character design trivia : All characters that are pairs have one wear gold accessories and the other silver. Apple and Daring both wear gold. They never were a pair.
    Edit: y'all I wrote Da_ring not DarLing (not mad, I'm just specifying to avoid further confusion)

    • @gabsolute
      @gabsolute 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      thats honestly kinda odd cause Apple normally wears gold

    • @baalgodofrain
      @baalgodofrain 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Ohh wait, when did Hunter wear silver?

    • @lyraenza
      @lyraenza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      @@baalgodofrain a keychain hanging from his pants on the doll

    • @lyraenza
      @lyraenza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Oh and it has to be a conscious design choice because Rosabella wears silver in Epic Winter.

    • @batterbee
      @batterbee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      and guess who does wear silver....
      thats right its darling (or raven if ur into that)

  • @pixel_99
    @pixel_99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +227

    Lizzie and Maddie participating in the dragon games is so weird to me , hell all 5 of the wonderlandians having no negative reactions about the evil queen being around the school campus is so odd, like that woman literally destroyed their homeland to the point they had to flee to EAH, you'd think that they'll feel some sort of anger about it 😭😭😭😭

    • @josefagomezschmeisser8356
      @josefagomezschmeisser8356 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      O: you are the right, I forgot about that part

    • @pailinlak33
      @pailinlak33 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      there's a lots of plot hole in this movie thou, maybe bc it's for children so they don't care much? =_+

  • @cureice
    @cureice 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +226

    "HIT THE GLASS RAVEN!" is so unhinged. It always sends me😭😭😭

    • @Coldchary2468
      @Coldchary2468 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh it’s you

    • @cureice
      @cureice 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Coldchary2468 Yeah I love Ever After High

    • @EvilRavenQueen
      @EvilRavenQueen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cureiceme too it’s the greatest show ever made

  • @gabsolute
    @gabsolute 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    something I love about Mira Shards’ design is that it kinda references Raven’s. they both have a prominent widows peak with a headpiece in the middle, they both have a purple gem in the middle of they’re high neck collars but Raven’s is white and Mira’s is black. they honestly look really good standing next to each other at 9:59

    • @EvilRavenQueen
      @EvilRavenQueen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My skin is yes it is white

  • @skysiren4113
    @skysiren4113 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

    As someone who loves the direction they went with for Apple's character in Dragon Games, I think a better reasoning for Apple working with Eveline would be to have Eveline threaten to harm Apple's mother and or friends if she didn't help her with her scheme. Or alternatively have Apple be scared that people would automatically think that it was Raven who let Eveline out and shun her again like how she was at the start of the series (have the line "I'll get in trouble" be changed to "Raven might get into trouble" to make this point clear) also have Apple act more horrified in front of Eveline for being the reason she is now free
    Either change could've made Apple a lot less selfish and not feel like her character had regressed while also still keeping her flawed

    • @eliefhr
      @eliefhr หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Those reasonings would have been way better for Apples's motivations to ever help the Evil Queen. Cause Raven and her mother are two of the most important people to her

  • @chalkish4855
    @chalkish4855 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    I always assumed that Mira Shards was pretending to be the daughter of the Magic Mirror from snow white, especially since she's "friends" with Apple and then hangs around Raven a lot

    • @DrawciaGleam02
      @DrawciaGleam02 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I thought that too!

    • @dywuoocat38
      @dywuoocat38 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I love this idea

    • @Lior353
      @Lior353 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That's what the fan wiki says so I think that's cannon

  • @LauraM96829
    @LauraM96829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    43:01 That one feels the most accurate, since Epic Winter implies that Daring is actually destined to be the prince from Beauty and the Beast.

    • @InternetNonsense
      @InternetNonsense หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Makes sense for his character, as the Beast was originally a very vain prince.

  • @myroyalart9246
    @myroyalart9246 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    Unfortunately Apple's doll suffered the Playset treatment, which meant that her look would have lower budget compared to other dolls cause Brayburn was the focus of the set.

    • @T-mack56
      @T-mack56 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      It probably didn't help that this was also around the time when Mattel was starting to make budget cuts to their doll lines after losing the Disney Princess license to Hasbro.

    • @myroyalart9246
      @myroyalart9246 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@T-mack56 I agree. Even earlier playset dolls like Thronecoming Briar had more budget

  • @gabsolute
    @gabsolute 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    omg when it would cut from Dragon Games to Season 1 clips made me realize how much the animation changed and HOW GOOD it is in Dragon Games

  • @lyraenza
    @lyraenza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    A ranking of everyone's pets would rule.

  • @brony4869
    @brony4869 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Apple x darling gives me so much life. I wish we had been able to explore it properly in the show itself.

    • @isadorakirmayr8876
      @isadorakirmayr8876 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I really do think they would get more development if ever after high didn't get canceled. Which is a shame, they give me life as well :((
      Oh well, I'm headcanoning they got together in the epic winter special while Daring and Rosabella got together as well (in the end they appear together, so I am grabbing whatever I can, lol)

  • @midnightrant7487
    @midnightrant7487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Wow! That fan animation that totally did not happened where Maddie winks at Monster High is so good! It's a shame it's not real. They were not planning and then canceled a crossover movie between the two, not at all :')

    • @EvilRavenQueen
      @EvilRavenQueen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She mentioned it right

  • @sincitty3323
    @sincitty3323 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    28:20 there's a lot of reasons why the Dragon games dolls look so lackluster.
    I believe this was already the point where Mattel started giving EAH way less money.
    Apple's doll cuts a lot of corners because it comes with a Dragon. That sounds lame I know, but I've seen this tactic with almost all the other big doll franchises, especially EAH's sister series, Monster High.
    This problem actually isn't unique to the Dragon Games line. Hat-tastic Party is a good example, the line only had like 5 dolls, but the show also included designs for, Raven, Daring, Kitty, Dexter, I think Lizzie and Cupid were there too. I think in that scenario, the lines are limited to a certain amount of dolls they can make, while the show writers want to use all the characters.

  • @elgeekenlatado1422
    @elgeekenlatado1422 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    This is my favorite special, as for Apple, although the character did have a setback, I feel that it makes sense because now her mother is there and that puts more pressure on her. Even so, she is still my favorite character of the show.
    Note: I translated all of this on Google so sorry for the mistakes.
    Good video.

  • @PickledRamona
    @PickledRamona 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    The fucking ramping up of the music when Apple does her “we all have a choice” moment goes SO HARD

  • @t0ph4t10
    @t0ph4t10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    About the Daring being Apple's Prince Charming I remember that in Darling's book something was touched on regrading the Charmings in general. It is explained that Charmings don't have a set density as Charmings are given a destiny that requires a Prince or Princess Charming. The reason that it was assumed that Daring would be Apple's Prince Charming is that out of the Charming Princes he is the most outstanding and so it was expected he would be. Also in one of the episodes and I think one of the books it talks about how there are different Charming families.

    • @victoriapride7575
      @victoriapride7575 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      yeah, the episode "Blondie Branches Out" where they map out their families, Dexter and Daring say that there are like 4 other unrelated Charming families

  • @midnightfox3157
    @midnightfox3157 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Yessssss I was waiting for this and I’m not disappointed thank you critter

    • @EvilRavenQueen
      @EvilRavenQueen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At least I’m not disappointed

  • @seungfactory
    @seungfactory 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    11 year old me was SAT for dragon games, 19 year old me is still sat

  • @PickledRamona
    @PickledRamona 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I know we all hate Epic Winter but Daring and Rosabella’s plot line is so awesome in my opinion and I watch it purely for them 😂😂

    • @josefagomezschmeisser8356
      @josefagomezschmeisser8356 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      They were the only saving grace of that special, and faybelle

    • @eleonorepb4565
      @eleonorepb4565 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They were the sole characters with Crystal and Faybelle with a plot. All the other characters are simply here and could be removed from the plot.

    • @rozinq1351
      @rozinq1351 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I liked Daring and Lizzie way more tbh

  • @patronofdragons
    @patronofdragons 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Apple would have been better if she tried to get help immediately after EQ was free but was threatened or had her soul sucked.

  • @sincitty3323
    @sincitty3323 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    44:58, G1 Clawdeen was never meant to be a Lesbian. Garrett Sander wanted her to be less "Boy crazy" than the other Ghouls. He has said that he supports the Headcanon of her being gay, but that was not his intention when he created her.
    There was a character that he did want to be gay, Kieran Valentine. He said that he was not allowed to make it canon even in a book because "it wasn't the right time" and "it might be problematic to make a villain gay."
    This is actually a common misconception in the Fandom.
    Mattel wouldn't let Clawdeen have textured hair, though, and changed Howleen's iconic frohawked design because "it wasn't girly enough."

    • @sincitty3323
      @sincitty3323 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Also, I could kinda get the problem with making Kieran gay if he was the only gay character, but he would've had a non-villain love interest, Spelldon. So, even in that scenario he wouldn't be the only gay character. He also only would've come out after he reformed. There is a Comic that delves into this, but I don't think Garrett was involved in making it. He did buy it, though.

    • @xoxo.pochacco
      @xoxo.pochacco 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes! I can't believe this misconception is still going around.

  • @sirdragonmoon7092
    @sirdragonmoon7092 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Clawdeen wasn't meant to be a lesbian. She was just created as the character that wasn't boy crazy. However, due to the fanfare of that theory, it was later brought into both the g3 main story and g1's revival stories. I think the comment u mentioned was about either Valentine or any of the other gay characters. Though i think the actual story of Valentine was that mattel found the story to be possibly homophobic. It was very likely to do with other characters like Kiyomi, who was very definitely and evidently gay, but it was just not stated directly outside of aluded in her diary and movie

  • @lashizzal7095
    @lashizzal7095 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I absolutely LOVED the designs of this special! Hope you will do a ranking video one day on all the outfits!

  • @rosey8453
    @rosey8453 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I love this movie so much, i love the dragons' designs and the character arc of Apple, but one thing I wish they did is emphasize how apple mom was also at fault, like imagine if like Apple, Snow was constantly trying to get Raven mom to become the evil queen however she did success in it but pretend that she did nothing wrong and really only did it so she can make herself look better so basically Evelyn was forced to become evil and is probably why she try to take over. When Apple finds out she would have an argument with her mom but afterward Apple would be conflicted and wouldn't know what to do anymore, which could lead her to freeing Evelyn cause she would so desperate to have a destiny that is actually her and not her mother's.
    Not sure if that made anything sense but that what I kinda wish happened.

    • @EvilRavenQueen
      @EvilRavenQueen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dragons are friendly

    • @rosey8453
      @rosey8453 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EvilRavenQueen True dragons are fun and awesome mystic creatures

  • @lavenderandchrysanthemums9441
    @lavenderandchrysanthemums9441 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Ahhhh! It's Dragon Games! What can I say about this one? First, I love the new designs, especially the battle-ready aesthetic of them, they really stand out compared to the others. Second, Apple in this special is a trip. She's my favorite character, but she's regressed to her worst traits in this one. Like, it hurts so much to see my favorite character go back on her lessons. At the same time, this is also the special where we see that Apple's love is a princess, not a prince. Honestly, that's what made it click for me why I like and relate to her so much. Apple's journey is my journey as well. Like, I grew up in a heavily religious and bigoted community. I held onto and internalized the toxic beliefs that I grew up with. Then, I met people outside of the echo chamber that I grew up in. I learned about experiences that weren't my own. I even realized I was queer. But while going through that journey I would sometimes fall back and do shitty things. But because of my friends I was able to reflect and figure out why I was wrong. That's why I probably will always love Apple and this special because even though it frustrates me sometimes, it's like I'm looking in a mirror. Faybelle also added some nice levity in the special, she never failed to make me laugh. And Raven is good as she always is. I really wish Darling appeared more, not even necessarily for the ship (but also yes that.) She's just a really fun character and I wish we got more development out of her. Despite my gripes with it though, Dragon Games will always be my favorite special.

  • @PickledRamona
    @PickledRamona 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    AHHH I LOVED THIS SO MUCH! Thank you for putting in so much effort into making this video! It’s 52 minutes long lol! I’m enjoying it so much!

  • @MICHAELSALSONGARCIA-gu6ui
    @MICHAELSALSONGARCIA-gu6ui 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've been waiting for months for this video, and now it's finally here. Just as much as I am waiting for Transformers One to come out this week. Mira Shards is totally one of my favorite characters in EAH. I also like the Dragon Games outfits of Raven, Holly, Poppy, Darling, and the others who got their outfits. I hope to see more EAH videos later this year. Until next time, till all are one.😃

  • @heewonlover
    @heewonlover 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    One thing I wished the special did was include briar as one of the dragon players! Like she's one of the girls who likes to do extreme sports, she would have loved dragon riding 😫

  • @BingBong7778
    @BingBong7778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I’m glad my sisters forced me to watch stuff like this with them, plus Apple just releases one of the biggest threats to the school and is like “Oh no……. I’m out.” 😂

  • @MichielBLKorte
    @MichielBLKorte หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Gemstones are not armour"
    Tell that to the Romanovs using diamonds in their corsets as bulletproof vests

  • @aromaladyellie
    @aromaladyellie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Is her name Evelyn in the books? Snow hears her name, Mira Shards, and recognises it so I assumed her name was actually just Mira Shards and nobody really knows her real name except a handful of people. Like I also don't think "Snow White" is Snow's actual name, but the name she adopted when she became Snow White.
    I will say I think Apple's reaction on freeing EQ is simply the fact that she's panicking. Apple doesn't stutter, so her going "uh, yu-you're good, right? Uh, bad? I can't help you" and backing away is a panicked teenager realising she screwed up something really bad. Plus Apple is herself a victim of abuse from her mother, who expects absolute perfection from Apple. If it gets out what she did, she's thinking of what her mother will say and do.
    "I'll get in trouble" isn't "I'm going to get scolded" it's "my mother is going to go ballistic and because everyone has such high expectations for me because of her and of our story, which has been repeatedly established to be the 'most important' one, I'm going to be in unspeakable levels of a thing I don't have a word for besides trouble". I don't think she's worried about detention or people being upset with her, but that what she did has serious ramifications that aren't dangerous but are extremely bad for her.
    I'm also someone of the opinion that her change of heart in "Way Too Wonderland" didn't feel like it was time for it. Time perhaps for her to be faced with the fact she's wrong, but not time for her to completely change her mind about destiny. Apple suddenly goes from hoping Raven will sign the book so her story can continue to agreeing that everyone should choose their own destiny, and idk, I don't think she is able to let go so quickly. Not over the course of a movie. Especially since what EQ did to Wonderland has nothing to do with following destinies.
    Sure she might see how it harms her friends, but she also spent a long time knowing what Briar and Raven's fates were and it never swayed her. She'd be sympathetic for a moment but like, instead of treating it like going mountain climbing (a dangerous but optional thing), she treated it like terminal cancer (a dangerous non-optional thing). One of Apple's biggest flaws is how she doesn't really see the world outside of her very small view of it. She's the kind of person who doesn't think something is a problem until it happens to her.
    I think Dragon Games works better as her final pushing point once she sees herself reflected back at her in Mira and in her mother's true attitude. Apple has *been* a "by any means necessary" person since the start. She's been pushing people to accept their fates, no matter what they are or what may happen because destiny is important in her eyes. Actually hearing "any means necessary" and pushing her to actually hurt her friends (and true love Darling) makes more sense to me as her turning point. EQ is a perfect parallel for Apple here- pushing Apple again and again and again into doing what SHE wants for HER benefit, promising it's good for Apple, too. That's exactly what Apple has been doing to Raven. Having her face that reality makes more sense as her turning point, I think.
    I actually like Apple in Dragon Games lmao. hot take I guess. She makes sense to me.
    I actually hate the way this show designs like "beautiful adult women" because they both look so bad imo. The sharp cut cheekbones make both EQ and Snow look like they're 60 year olds using botox to look 20 rather than being presumably in their early 40's. Which like, I guess is probably intentional? Since Snow has grey streaks in her hair, but idk if they're meant to be age streaks or were just a weird colour choice. But their faces and heads are weird-shaped. Snow's apple lips are really, really bad, I actually think EQ looks a bit better but her hair and shoulders are so stupid her design is just as off-putting and bad as Snow's.

  • @sincitty3323
    @sincitty3323 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I've heard that the Mira Shards persona is meant to be the daughter of the Snow White magic mirror. That always made me wonder a lot of things,
    *Who's the actual kid of the magic mirror?
    *Would they also be the Snow Queen magic mirror(just like how Hunter is both of the Fairytale Huntsmen)?
    *If there's actually never been a kid of the magic mirror, then her Disguise should raise some alarms?

  • @AirBowDoesStuff
    @AirBowDoesStuff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    YESSSS, I discovered Ever After High cause of your Wonderland doll outfits short and have been hooked ever since!

  • @vashtinayagar1325
    @vashtinayagar1325 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I can’t wait to hear you talk about Daring’s development in the next special. Real talk, I don’t know if the intention behind the kids was that Darling would become Apple’s princess charming, but I never really shipped them. Dexter was so mehh so I REALLY started to ship Raven and Apple lol, especially in this special when they had to fight together at the end.

    • @rozinq1351
      @rozinq1351 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm so glad I'm not the only one who felt that way about Dexter ngl 😭

  • @ash.exe05
    @ash.exe05 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just found your channel and ahhhh thank you I’ve been looking for any detc co content!! Love the analysis

  • @MICHAELSALSONGARCIA-gu6ui
    @MICHAELSALSONGARCIA-gu6ui 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I imagine to myself about when Raven and Apple defeat the Evil Queen, I include background music "The Touch" from the Transformers 1986 movie. I thought it would have been epic to me. EAH Dragon Riders, ROLL OUT! Anyways, excellent video you made Critter.😃

  • @shmadenshmuki5477
    @shmadenshmuki5477 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Apple and Raven watching their mothers engage in toxic old lady yuri

  • @williamswonderland3636
    @williamswonderland3636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    10:16 I always wanted to see the son of the magic mirror because technically there is like some magical force in there that allows it to communicate and if a part of it broke off and became it's own person or , similar to the snow queen, that shard fell into a person and took over there body, maybe in a less evil way I'm not sure how they would write him. I just want more boy characters in the show to relate to.

  • @annlien2979
    @annlien2979 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    yessssss ive been waiting for this one after your latest EAH review

  • @MrTragedious986
    @MrTragedious986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    You know I kinda wish they made a Monster High and Ever After High crossover.

    • @hayamihinata4135
      @hayamihinata4135 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They were supposed to but then the cancellation of both series came. There is the Legend of Shadow High book though

    • @MrTragedious986
      @MrTragedious986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hayamihinata4135 I mean the only thing we can get were the storyboards with fully voice acting.

    • @EvilRavenQueen
      @EvilRavenQueen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but sadly it got cancelled

  • @Animation_fan14
    @Animation_fan14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS 😁

  • @vulpiixfoxx
    @vulpiixfoxx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Haven’t fully watched the video yet, but I’ll say it kinda sucks that EAH couldn’t end off on a bang with the Dragon Games special with the whimper that was their last special, the winter one. I personally don’t even think it was horrible just…it feels so much more thematic for EAH to end off on Dragon Games, and the winter special just kind of felt like Mattel had the producers of the show make something for Christmas and it happened to be around the time they stopped making EAH dolls.

    • @RainiiDay7
      @RainiiDay7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I completely agree, only reason why I feel Epic Winter is important is for the Daring and Rosabella plot point because it wraps up the whole "Who is Daring supposed to be with" question. Its just a shame it was a side plot and the whole story focused on forgettable characters.

  • @HelenAvalos-vd7dd
    @HelenAvalos-vd7dd หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Small suggestion if your a dragon fan I’d recommend Wings of Fire by Tui T Sutherland! It’s a book series where dragons are the main characters and it’s a cool fantasy read! Once you get into the plot it’s extremely good I would def recommend!

  • @lyraenza
    @lyraenza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Wait am I crazy ? I remember the MH creator saying that Clawdeen wasn't planned to be a lesbian but that he really liked the interpretation. However the team did try to make other gay characters and that's where the "it wasn't the right time" line is from. Am I misremembering ? Is Clawdeen a canon lesbian ?

    • @patronofdragons
      @patronofdragons 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. It was revealed awhile ago.

  • @tevineleven11
    @tevineleven11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    45:43 YOOOOOOO! She went DEEP for that shit! Put her whole heart and soul into that headbang!

  • @mareofmaers3590
    @mareofmaers3590 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great review and great analysis of the outfits! I never put too much thought into the plot of this mess, but your analysis is very spot-on. It does feel rushed in the last part. Also Apple's crown-thingy - so many violations of sports equipment rules lmao. She'd get her hands tangled up so easily, it just feels like it was designed heavily for the doll, which considering how lackluster the doll is... yeah. I know this show is meant to sell dolls, but all the others look still sporty at least!
    Honestly, while I initially really hated Apple's regression, then understood the pressure she is under a lot better, I still think the show suffers from the writers refusing to let Apple face any consequences. Like, the worst that ever happened to her was Raven telling her off. Not even detention for literally freeing the worst evil in their entire world. Nothing. She gets poisoned "for what, like a week?" - more like half a day! It does not help the idea of her just being the spoiled, privileged brat the fandom likes to reduce her to. Like, at least make her clean up the school or something.

  • @wazzupyuwu
    @wazzupyuwu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    REJOICE!!! CRITTER DRAGON GAMES REVIEW BE UPON YE!!!!!!!!

  • @ScarletHuntress76
    @ScarletHuntress76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I do agree with you that this special/movie would’ve fit within the lore so much better in season one of that than it does after Way Too Wonderland.
    Also I remember the website!!! I played on it so often!!!

  • @anshiel
    @anshiel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    look, all sapphic ships r good and darling x apple is a good ship, but because i watched the show when it was going from the beginning, im still big on rapple BECAUSE i love the duality(although i've read some fics that tackle the idea of raven being apples first crush which, yeah that checks out) it's also prob because i was big on ginger x darling after way too wonderland(THOUGH MORE IMPORTANTLY, i will never forgive mattle letting out estonian dubbed trailers 4 these specials but never having them anywhere due to the netflix deal)

  • @foxinred6315
    @foxinred6315 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I think the reason that apples character change is because between way too wonder land and dragon games the entire writing team got changed

    • @kendraroth1276
      @kendraroth1276 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That explains a lot.
      Several Characters got Flanderized and/or demoted.

    • @foxinred6315
      @foxinred6315 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@kendraroth1276 it's very sad that they did

    • @kendraroth1276
      @kendraroth1276 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@foxinred6315 I can’t tell which character suffered the worst.
      Maddie and Raven became demoted to extras. Daring became more idiotic and at times, he seemed to lose his character development.
      Snow White became toxic and controlling. This would have an impact on her book self. Prior, she respected and supported Raven’s desire to Rebel against the system and she did regret not doing the same and she inspired Apple to care about inner beauty.
      Apple’s is already known. At least in this special, Almost every character was dumbed down.
      The main/recurring characters changed.

  • @oklohadalittlelamb
    @oklohadalittlelamb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I WOULD LOVE LOVE LOVE A PET RANKING VIDEO!!! :DD

  • @bbtfan7957
    @bbtfan7957 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I kind of wish they showed Apple and Raven's Dad's in this.

  • @starchu4538
    @starchu4538 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I feel like there was a VERY simple fix to Apple’s arc in this season. Instead of Apple giving the most simple response she did, she could have freaked out, panicked, leaving her in a vulnerable headspace and the Queen respond with threatening to tell everyone Apple was the one who freed her and cause her to get imprisoned or something for freeing the worst villain ever??? The season could have continued in either the Queen isolating Apple and slowly chipping away at what she believed, picking at how imperfect her mom is, how Raven, her best friend, is basically abandoning her and so on, SUCH a simple fix instead of suddenly acting like all of Apple’s character development was all for nothing

  • @ghostrouxinol6169
    @ghostrouxinol6169 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the come out story of The Judgement Critic's I was Cherche from Fire Emblem Awakening all this time.

  • @shockdiesel3470
    @shockdiesel3470 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And here I was thinking that Nevermore actually was the nameless dragon that legitimately attacked Raven and led to Darling Charming actually dressing up in her white knight of Wonderland armor I'm going around a masquerading as her brother daring as she saves a bunch of people starting of course with Raven herself

  • @Nightman221k
    @Nightman221k 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I really shipped Apple and Raven so the Darling kiss kind of bugged me since they shared so few scenes. And when you look at Raven and Apple they hold hands often and express how much they love each other constantly. I don’t believe they could be in love. That and Darling and Ginger Breadhouse seemed to have a good set up for them having a future romantic relationship.

    • @rozinq1351
      @rozinq1351 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally agree, as a kid I only watched the very first episodes leading up to legacy day so when I found out there was a continuation and saw an out of context clip of the kiss from dragon games I was very excited to see how they're gonna lead up to it, I remember watching way to wonderland and waiting for Apple and Darling to interact beyond the beginning scene and then it just never happened even in future specials and episodes before the kiss and it left me very confused because almost everyone in the fandom was talking about how great their chemistry was. A while ago I saw a tumblr post where the author said they felt like Apple should have woken up after Raven's speech and not gonna lie, that always seemed much more narratively satisfying to me regardless of whether it'd be in a romantic or platonic context (Dexter always seemed kind of bland to me anyway). Also you're 100% right about Darling and Ginger, they were super cute in spring unsprung :D

    • @Nightman221k
      @Nightman221k หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rozinq1351 thank you. I really feel like the writers wrote Raven and Apple to have wonderful chemistry. With Dexter and Raven it was hard to see the chemistry for me. I’d prefer Dex with Cupid since she was selfless and her crush was cute. I thought Ginger bonding with Darling when Darling was the white knight set them up to have a friendship or be girlfriends in the future but the writers kind of never makes them hang out after they met in wonderland. I would’ve been more fond of Darling and Apple if they had an established connection. When she kissed her in the movie it felt more random since they weren’t even shown being close friends. Even Briar was a closer friend to Apple.

  • @jdlightside5434
    @jdlightside5434 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Perhaps you'd like Dragonfable (free online rpg). Has Decent storytelling that centers around your character and a dragon you bond with throughout the game. You can name and customize it, too.

  • @devilcat7430
    @devilcat7430 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Am I the only one who thought it was weird Raven’s dragon got more character in the movie but Apple’s dragon was the one who actually got a toy?

  • @MG-xs6kq
    @MG-xs6kq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'd love to see a ranking of the pets!

  • @_TinyHyeju_
    @_TinyHyeju_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And I just wanna look to the heavens…and praise god for this video finally being out🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️ u know dragon games isn’t my favorite but it has some really STRONG moments. It’s just such a shame that we don’t get to further development things like Apple/Darling’s relationship etc cuz the show got cancelled. The next special expands on Daring more but it feels like such a meh special to end on

  • @gemini_dragon1092
    @gemini_dragon1092 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Don’t have twitter so unfortunately can’t share a photo but I have a dragon shelf with a bunch of dragon figurines on it and it’s VERY cool

  • @Mermain123
    @Mermain123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    so i think epic winter is a good overall special (i really like it and especially daring's arc) but as the final special and kinda finale to EAH? it doesn't work
    like if this were just another special where life goes on after and we got like 5 more specials i think it'd be a fun middle one. it's biggest flaw i think is that it's sort like the finale to EAH (wanted to get my thoughts out there before you do your review of it)
    as or Dragn games i still love this special
    it's an awsome one
    and i LOVE the twist with darling
    and i just WISH it could be acknowledged
    also cool to see the evil queen and snow's portrayal
    they're fin characters and i'd love to see more of them
    and i also remember a book that dealt with some of the aftermath here. mostly faybelle and the evil queen teaming up and how much faybelle wants to be like her. (she even mangaes to curse raven to hopefully be more evil but instead it just makes her more troll like)

  • @medea__witchhh
    @medea__witchhh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    we are so back

  • @Callistostarligh
    @Callistostarligh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I feel like apples Character would have been saved if they had a scene were the evil queen got out she tried to tell some one but evil queen used magic then they did the you good scene just saying

  • @AdventureHusky
    @AdventureHusky หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    40:01 Personally, plot aside, I LOVE the way they "rescued" Daring. Everyones freaking out, WHERES DARING!? WHO TOOK HIM!? And all along my guy has just been losing his mind, Ken style, inside the mirror realm and he pops out disheveled and comedically vain as always. Not the right timing, but had this happened during a less tense moment it would have been better appreciated. Not everything needs a long or suspenseful mission/journey, sometimes a simple answer is good too. And another point, they should have pushed Darling x Apple more, would have loved that dynamic........all the fanfic potential......

  • @ztyran
    @ztyran หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:13 With a name like Mira Shard, I'd guess she's the daughter of the magic mirror. It would explain why she's hanging out with Apple and later Raven.

  • @EvilRavenQueen
    @EvilRavenQueen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    0:21 4:21 there’s me

  • @sunspiit6641
    @sunspiit6641 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Garret sanders didnt actually intend to make Clawdeen a lesbian! He just wanted to make her less boy crazy than frankie and laura. But, he looves the headcannon so radioactively changed it. he comfimed this on an instagram post he made on gay pride day (im very active in the ig doll community)
    I think he has the complete right to radioactively change Clawdeens sexuality, he's a gay man himself but was never able to put any queer representation in the spotlight. hes now able to express himself fully in his creation and i love it! now in g3, frankie is nonbinary and is dating Cleo, which I LOVE!!!

  • @EternalFireseal
    @EternalFireseal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    38:42 Did Apple just wipe her eye with her studded metal bracer?
    I know I'm missing a lot of stuff that happened in the series, but I'm really confused why everyone assumes Daring is Apple's true love. Didn't the two of them go out of their way to say there _wasn't_ any romance between them? I can totally buy Daring assuming his kiss would work anyway, but why did everyone else think it would?
    I honestly would have preferred it if it had been Briar or Raven who woke Apple, not because of a ship, but because Apple valuing her friendships over other concerns has been a running theme. Having her "true" love be her caring for her friends could have been interesting.

    • @MeemahSN
      @MeemahSN 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Apple and Daring are constantly paired together in the show. I don't remember them ever stating that they weren't a thing, although I think one of the books has Apple outwardly deny any romantic chemistry. I'll have to rewatch the show, but the two of them being a future couple was always a plot point, and I don't think they themselves denied it within the show itself.

  • @azurerandomness
    @azurerandomness 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh I love how Snow White’s soul was put into a snake

  • @lav3nder_dollz
    @lav3nder_dollz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    watching this while unboxing my duchess i got🙏🙏

    • @EvilRavenQueen
      @EvilRavenQueen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you have the raven doll

    • @lav3nder_dollz
      @lav3nder_dollz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EvilRavenQueen yuh i have basic raven, apple, maddie, briar, cerise, duchess, blondie, ashlynn, hunter, cupid, courtly, and cedar😭😭

  • @Azazeal797
    @Azazeal797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Out of all the new designs, the characters got for dragon games I can’t lie I think Raven is my favorite
    Because the high flowing ponytail mixed alongside with the blue streak of hair works surprisingly well when you compare it to her natural design
    The dark blue in general for her Dragon games design works surprisingly well, when contrasted with the purples, pink and red colors of her hair and outfit

  • @MG-xs6kq
    @MG-xs6kq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm so happy to be alive right now!

  • @luxuriousrug8551
    @luxuriousrug8551 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    OHH MYY GOOOOOOD, NO WAY

  • @karenbonds264
    @karenbonds264 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    1:00 You’ll love Monster Hunter Stories, then.

    • @stormylobby
      @stormylobby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dammit, I was just about to make a joke about this point when I saw this comment

  • @shawnison
    @shawnison 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    yes absolutely please to ranking their pets!!

  • @kennethfajardo9102
    @kennethfajardo9102 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Maddie and Ashlyn's part was funny, but why was Maddie not on her own dragon?

    • @thejudgmentalcritter6584
      @thejudgmentalcritter6584  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Technically they ARE both on Maddie's Dragon, Maddie just isn't holding the reigns.
      I like to headcanon that she's just a very bad driver and let Ashlynn take over for this important event.

    • @kennethfajardo9102
      @kennethfajardo9102 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@thejudgmentalcritter6584 Oh.

  • @chubbyanimalenthusiast70
    @chubbyanimalenthusiast70 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’d watch a pet ranking

  • @shadowclaw7210
    @shadowclaw7210 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    About why Apple doll and dragon looking much different than. Probably case of designers using prototypes, while movie then changed.
    Mostly just assumption.

  • @Echo.2.1
    @Echo.2.1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think for Apples destiny with Daring I think he was there because it shows what they think will happen with their destiny, Apple thinks she’s gonna be with daring and with Raven she thinks she’s gonna be locked up etc. but this is a before thought before darling was brought into the picture
    Maybe that’s just what I think

  • @kendraroth1276
    @kendraroth1276 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    To me, Dragon Games was the start of Daring’s character assassination.
    Pre Dragon Games: Daring is arrogant and cocky but also helpful and willing to learn from his mistakes.
    Starting with Dragon Games: Daring lacks self awareness and pays little to no attention to his surroundings.

  • @kawaii801
    @kawaii801 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s time for the dragon games 🐉

  • @octoolivia6745
    @octoolivia6745 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10:10 I think Bloody Mary probably would go to the school - she’s similar to Robin Hood in that she is based of English history (Mary queen of Scots)

  • @AaronBlack-b3j
    @AaronBlack-b3j 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Only one more video left and You'll have 600!!🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

  • @seanfulldark
    @seanfulldark 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never more better be the top rank! It's a dark dragon it's so cute and adorable I can't wait for it to kill Jake long.

  • @Dawn_gurrrl
    @Dawn_gurrrl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Gemstones are not armor" ..... tell that to the romanovs 🧍‍♂️

  • @four_girls_in_search_of_awesom
    @four_girls_in_search_of_awesom 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Help I love Apple’s Dragon Game outfit 😂

  • @Thehoneybea
    @Thehoneybea หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of mirra shards could’ve been the daughter of the magic mirror from the Snow White story

  • @Danny_boy333
    @Danny_boy333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Since you're a fan of wolf among us can we please get a video or two on it 👀

  • @Aestheticchickennugget
    @Aestheticchickennugget 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the big crown is actually kinda symbolic of Apple in this season. I can’t stand her in general but when all of her friends are wearing really simple headwear, she’s wearing this huge crown, something that will draw eyes to her and making her the most popular rider. It being a crown can make people see her as royalty because that’s what she wants. Its a small detail and I doubt it was intentional lol

  • @midnightmusical5920
    @midnightmusical5920 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not watching this all the way through, but omg, I agree that dragons are cool. I'm even making a group of dragons for dnd called the celestial dragons.

  • @Therealvemon
    @Therealvemon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think you would really like the dragon prince

  • @enchantedspikes3342
    @enchantedspikes3342 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FINALLY YES THANK YOUUUUUU

  • @elenaporras3145
    @elenaporras3145 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the reason why the dolls don’t look accurate is because Mattel was trying to do a soft doll reboot to cater to parents while ever after high was the more fairytale version of Monster High the outfits were still pretty alternative!! With heavy make up and stuff so I think they were trying to kind of get rid of that in the dolls not caring about consistency

  • @EvilRavenQueen
    @EvilRavenQueen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6:07 I thought it was candy crush that she’s playing

  • @frenchtoast4390
    @frenchtoast4390 หลายเดือนก่อน

    28:07 its such a shame i think they spent their budget on the dragon so apple got a boring basic outfit 😭😭while everyone else who got one got much prettier ones
    Also im glad im not the only one who noticed the similarities between the pixies in Dragon Games and Epic Winter to the Enchantimals

  • @raikaschieck1634
    @raikaschieck1634 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes, Dragons!