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One of the reasons the Lorax cares so much is because they have a very small ecosystem, even though it's thriving it's very fragile. It has 3 animal species plus the space appearances of the Lorax, 1 species of tree, grass and maybe a few shrubs. When The Oncler starts chopping down trees which is one of the only suppliers of food (the weird fruit things) they are very understandably concerned. For those of you who either haven't done their biology unit in science or forgot about it; having a small ecosystem is pretty bad. If one species is taken out (in this case the trees) something like what happens in this movie can happen, it's very plausible!
@@YourRyeBread Usually ecosystems can build their way back up from a mishape, but in circumstances like those where there is so little variety the smallest thing can devastate the entire ecosystem. That's why invasive species can be such a problem
Aye it's just the movie missed it's mark by starting after just ONE tree as making the onceler a bad guy, makes it more an extremist environmental movie, which I why every kid in my highschool class hated the movie and none of us wrote good papers on it
@@Zamerus a reason a lot of people hate it is because if you've read the book or seen the 2d animation of The Lorax, the Onceler was originally just green gloves... actually ALL the humans you see are behind a wall with the only indication of them being human is the green gloves. Because, a company is not just one person it's a train made of apathy with its only goal being to keep the supply going as long as it's in demand. A business can't feel, it can't see what an individual sees, it just does what it's meant to so this movie giving everyone an appearance screws up the meaning.
I'm kinda of surprised he didn't realize that the Granny was voiced by Betty White. I kept expecting him to suddenly realise it and like "how did I not notice that sooner?" 😅
the original Lorax movie is a cartoon from 1972 and is SO much more depressing. it doesn’t include Ted’s storyline and just ends with all the forest animals losing their home and the environment destroyed. definitely made me very aware of the state of the world as a child lol
And yk the SADDEST PART??? See, in this version the onceler actually seems to feel bad for what he's done. In the og, he had VERY LITTLE empathy for the cute, innocent animals he caused to suffer and become homeless. As was said in the video, "how can you not feel horrible about doing this?" But, that's capitalism baby! Imo, they humanized the onceler in the 2012 movie too much. Ig it's so people will relate to him, since I don't think most regular people could cause suffering of others and not care, idk
the ending of the original was left ambiguous because it was a comment on “will we tally change or do anything?” it was left open as a question to make the point of urgency but also make kids and people realize some “truths” about the world. Here they need to have a good ending because corporate studio test audiences would never have liked an ambiguous ending, and they wouldn’t;t be able to ponder to the lowest common denominator and child attention span.
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906 yea, 2012 deffo ain't an accurate representation of capitalists. You think after they destroy a forest they'll be like "but...hey, baby bear...please don't be sad...🥺" no lol
I don’t think they ever point this out in the movie however its theorized (I dont know if it’s cannon) that the Onceler actually tried to grow trees after the Lorax left, trying to fix his mistake, but they all died. Which is why the Onceler waited till someone who really cared about trees to actually give someone the seed knowing it would be planted.
Except the kid in the movie DOESN'T actually give a damn about the trees at all. He's just trying to impress his crush and the tree is just a means to that end.
@@CharginChuck I always figured he *grew* to care through hearing the Onceler's story. Initially in it for the girl, but got captivated by the tree, too.
@@falsnamae3511Except that that Beastly TH-camr, while what he is doing is good in a vacuum, only provides a bandaid solution to problems that could be fixed if he also used his platform to inform a bit more about why certain things are problems, and provide outlets that make more permanent and self sustainable solutions. context matters A LOT, especially when considering what comes after the singular act of good deeds anyone can do on their own (no matter how rich or talented a single individual may be); and what you truly desire is always going to betray you; at least in small ways, and gradually move your decisions away from what would be good for what you state your goals to supposedly be, that's literally what happened to the Once-ler, good intentions but his heart did not lean where he said it did. Not to mention the literal line, "a portion goes to charity," Mr. Beast and the Once-ler aren't a 1 to 1 comparison, and in no way am I saying Mr. Beast is a horrible, irredeemable, monster, with no good intentions; what I am saying is that there're repercussions to even innocent ignorance that are easily avoidable if you realize and are honest with what you really care about most.
@@falsnamae3511 Genuine question, are you referring to Matt as the youtuber in your comment? Wondering if there's anything I should be aware of, because he does seem like a decent guy, although I know it's not always the case.
"50 Minutes? There aren't THAT many songs...oh" For real though, any time I'm reminded this movie exists I have to spend an hour listening to Biggering on loop, the song that went too hard to live. This movie got roasted for having the Lorax in car sponsorship ads
@@RoseQuartz692 How Bad Can I Be definitely suited the movie more since the movie has a more subtle but easy to understand message. But Biggering is also well liked because its the opposite of How Bad Can I Be, its in your face kind of message is something a lot of people enjoy. Not only that but I feel like people enjoy Biggering because the message shouldn't be subtle at all. This is a really big issue and most people would ignore their problems until its right in front of them. There is not subtle way to tell someone that animals are going extinct and ecosystems are being destroyed. Biggering and How Bad Can I Be are both really good songs and to me are on even footing. Also Biggering makes the Once-ler feel more like a villain (like the book one), but because we know his reasons and thought prosses How Bad Can I Be suited him more (in the movie).
To this day, one minor thing that bugs me about this film is that they got Zac Efron and Taylor Swift as two major characters in a musical and didn't have them sing. What's really sad is that if they had gone with the original version of the opening number, Efron would have actually gotten to sing since Ted actually has an entire verse in that version.
Agreed, and it sure was a fire verse. Mathew thought this was pretty on-the-nose and heavy-handed with it's message, but boy would it have been moreso before. Part of me thinks this more restrained version better portrays how insidious and invisible corporate corruption is, but those original ideas for the songs are just really powerful.
A little rumour about “How bad can i be” is that he genuinely doesn’t know what’s happening like how most big corporations have the very top dog who half the time doesn’t see the effect, if i remember correctly its shown by subtle things like him not looking behind him or below him, to him being sheltered from the after effects. I personally adore the song “biggering” it really shows how he (the onceler) doesn’t see the problem because he has been infected by the greed but unfortunately it was never in the movie
see, the problem with that is that if he was really infected by greed, he would have planted at least one tree for every one he cut down to keep the business growing and the money coming. that's how business works. if you wanna make the product, you gotta have the material. or he would have figured out that cutting trees down wouldn't help his business and would have stopped.
@@sop-he-uh I think because his family mostly took over so he was in an office not seeing what was happening, he thought everything was ok, that is of course until he finally saw the chaos he’d created and watched the last tree fall
The original 70’s special was way better, it better represented the ACTUAL real world of business in this to make the unclear not seen as a bad guy, they have him instead be manipulated by his family, and becoming blinded by success So he’s not a real bad person, he just made a mistake. whereas in the original special. the lorax and the Oncler go back and forth about the needs of business and nature with the lorax pointing out that the pollution and environmental destruction by the industrialization is ruining the environment and making it harder to breathe, while chasing away the animals whereas the Oncler points out that his factories are providing jobs and income for people and their families, and if he stops or shuts them down, all those people will be jobless and have no income it was a conversation that represented the different interests of both sides, and was promoting the idea that there needs to be some kind of compomise BUT the Lorax has no clue what that compromise is and the Oncler is unwilling to even think about it, because it’s not as conveninet as the status quo.
Btw, you should really check out the unused songs for this movie, because they are really good. The Biggering especially has become the most popular Lorax song, and it unfortunately wasn't even in the film
The fact that O'Hare isn't even that far off of how some real life billionaires act in order to satisfy their greed is insane. Like yeah, he says the quiet part out loud and is made to be surface level evil but at the core it still yields the same results😭
13:32 the thneed doesn't matter really its just "the need" that drives us to take and take until there's nothing left - all the names in the original book were more to represent concepts more than characters
You also got to love how much the studio for this film, whored the film out to every product and company they could totally upending the point of the “needless consumerism” criticized in their won film and against Seuss’s own noted hatred of the prostitution of art that was consumer culture
@@mckenzie.latham91when they cooperated with a car company to make it Lorax approved they really showed that the PR Team didn't even watch their own movie lmao
It's called manufactured consent... They show and mock the slimy corporate behaviour and call out the consumer and marketing culture So people think they are being honest or will say "Hey they called it out at least" While they in real life, do the exact same thing so people will give them credit for calling it out but they can exploit as much as usual.
Which is totally undermined by how much the studio and animation company that made the film, sold out to ever big marketer and product tie-in they could, as well milked this movie for as much as they could get out of it, while doing almost everything they criticize or point fun of in the film.
Same?? It's like a cult classic in my school. At least once a year, you'll watch the Lorax in class. Usually Geography, but not always. It's a tradition at this point, and in my experience it's happened maybe five or six years in a row? Anyway it's wild that not everyone has watched this movie 50,000 times and loved it every single rewatch.
@singingofsilver I watched it a few times when it came out as a kid, but I never really liked it. The “boy will do anything for the girl” plot, plus the fact that the Lorax is a complete a$s in this version really put me off. The movie that I DID obsess over as a kid was Horton Hears a Who. I watched that movie like crazy lol.
To be fair on the "I destroyed the planet, it's your job to fix it" that is also.. literally what irl companies do. Anyone else remember the BP "carbon pledge"?
I'm not someone who watched the movie as a kid (I had read the book when I was like 5, but don't remember it). But I've had a strange relationship with the movie as an adult, on one hand it's very strange, many parts feel rushed; the conclusion especially is so sudden and is hardly even a conclusion to the story. But it has a surprising amount of heart, it goes completely off the walls with no attempt to have things actually make sense; but it owns that fact. It commits so hard to the wacky world and nonsense that is synonymous with Dr. Seuss and fully delivers on teaching a moral that I think it's probably the most Dr. Seuss like adaptation of a Dr. Seuss book. And I have to love it for that.
Watch the Nostalgic critic’s review of the film, it point sout exactly what is wrong with the film, and how it violates everything Seuss intended he also gives credit to the 1970’s animated special doug walker is a big dr seuss fan, and he hates what hollywood has done to most of the Seuss adaptions especially with how much they undermine and sell out the message by being corporate hacks in real life.
I prefer the demo songs a lot, cause they’re more rough, making it sound less like top 40 hits. They also go even harder on the anti-corporate stuff. The OG Intro doubled as Ted’s ‘I Want’ song (where he used to be a more Kuzco esc protag) and The Once-let’s cut villain song is surprisingly real
Okay but now I need your reaction to Biggering. It was the original villain song for the Onceler before it was replaced by How Bad Can I Be and it is, in my opinion, infinitely better.
I think both songs could have been included in the movie, since biggering share lines with how bad can i be it would have been a great way to show how much worse his actions are becoming over the course of the film
I am so excited the Lorax was my childhood when the counselors at camp didn't want to deal with the staff kids (I was a staff kid) they just put on the Lorax and left us to our own devices
You’ve got to watch the cut out song “Biggering”, it’s a song that would have really changed the tone of the movie, it got replaced by the How bad could I be song
Somehow still managed to cry at the end despite it being cut for reaction purposes. Wowza. I'd forgotten how much this movie hit me. Glad to see you reacting to it, and I second what other comments have said! The deleted songs (specifically Biggering) are bangers!
The idea of having to buy something as necessary as air could be commentary on how some people have to buy bottled water because no clean tap water is available.
33:02 “Harvesting the tufts takes too long!” That’s because your doing it the wrong way. If *I* was involved, I would just have them cut just above the bottom of the fluffy bit. Like, harvest as much of the fluff as possible in one fell swoop, while still allowing it to eventually regrow. Then it’d be more sustainable
See, this movie is iconic because of just how unhinged it is. But I can never shake off the fact that the movie had a bunch of tie-ins with gigantic corporate entities. Promoting cars with images of the Lorax and the movie. It has no heart. It has no soul. But it is insane, and the memes are too notch. So, I guess something good did come from this movie.
i really recommend listening to biggering, it was the original song that the onceler was going to sing, but ended up getting replaced with how bad could i be since biggering made the onceler seem like the villain and the big corporations that helped make the move wanted to be perceived as the onceler not o’hare
Yeah, something I noticed is that many reactors tend to question things that happen in movies a lot, particularly if they have surreal aspects to it, which I get, but at the same time it's kinda annoying since it can take them out of the experience if they're constantly questioning what's happening. And sometimes they'd get the answer to their questions if they just kept watching or paid attention in the moments they took to ask them.
I’d like to add that this movie had a HUGE tonal shift mid production. The movie we got was not the movie that was planned, and it’s worse off for it. I mean, half of the movie is literally a big time CEO’s sob story. “I didn’t know I was destroying the envirownment, I just wanted to impwess my family” 🥺👉👈. Which will add to the uncanny felling as… he’s also the bad guy. O’Hare gets what’s coming to him, but for some reason we just pretend the oncelr wasn’t the cause of all of this. The story we got wasn’t actually anti pollution or consumerism, it was just anti O’Hare. And because of that there’s gonna be disconnect between the movie and anyone who actually thinks about the “lessons” the movie presents.
I think looking back on it now and I didn’t realise this one was younger. I think this also deals with how toxic family can also be and how they can just let shitty behaviour happen because they are also shitty. He did it to a piece of Mum and now they’ve kind of taught him that it’s okay to do thiswhich makes sense I think
Now that you have context for lorax please, please, please listen to Biggering - a potential song for Lorax that was later replaced by ''How bad can I be?'' because it was too dark/realistic. It's amazing.
I saw the original movie in school back in the late 70s and it's been burned in my memory for all time. It's always been about the perils of capitalism and need for environmentalism.
also finding a compromise between the interests of business (jobs and income for people and families) while protecting the environment to protect everyone’s health and healthy ecosystems this film however, just makes the big corporate villain a cliche bad guy and it there is no compromise found i the film everyone just accepts the nature part with next to no real reason too. people who were singing in the beginning of the film about how much they love parking lots and modern convenience, suddenly with no reason, support trees and changing their entire way of life after a simple transition change and a song.
You should check out the cut song for this film, they crank up the anti capitalism to an 11 and are amazing. The original thneedsville demo, the oncelers traveling song, you need a thneed, nobody needs a thneed, biggering. There all great and definitely worth your time
You should watch the original movie now!! I love this lorax for the memories but the original has such good songs and a clearer message. Really good short film
I know that there are already probably dozens of comments saying this, but I would highly recommend listening to the cut song Biggering. It does a much better job at representing real corporations and how they treat the environment, and the song itself is an absolute bop
did you know that on the first version of the movie there was another song called "Biggering"? Yes, that was at the beginning. However it was way to realistic and serious and could cause damage to many big companies so it was replaced with "How bad can i be" which was aboyt same thing but way more silly and goofy. Pls do the reaction for this song, in my opinion it's way better than "How bad can I be"
I love this movie, they really done great characters and had put cool details in the movie, Once-ler is like a very live character for example and not a bad man just because he is supposed to, his family made him cut down the trees and stuff (he says "...cut down a FEW trees", he noticing that but his family just goes "Nah, whatever. It couldn't hurt."), Ted also change his motivation from impressing Audrey to actually save the world, the whole thing with why O'Hare's products became in demand, etc!
"Is it just going to be themost buetiful thing hes ever seen?" (Talking about when ted goes overthe wall) *sees the land being all dark* "oh no, its just going to be super depressing" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i choked on my food when watching that scene 😂😂😂😂😂
Great video :D there was a different version of the onceler’s villain song called “Biggering” that I think you’d find interesting! It’s on youtube, it goes even deeper into the greed and corporate issues the movie kinda touched on.
As a lot more people had said, you should Listen to ''Biggering'' the original track from the movie instead of how bad can i be that they removed for being too real
Hey Mathew! If you enjoyed this, you need to listen to the original demos of the soundtrack. BIGGERING (the original villain song written for the onceler) runs circles around ‘How Bad Can I Be?’ and the original ‘Thneedville’ is better too!!
If I remember correctly when we went to watch this in theatres it was the first time I had gone when there was literally no one else in there apart from us and it was a total fever dream of a movie and I never thought about or heard of it again until YEARS later
Also on the whole "I broke it so now _you're_ gonna have to fix it": Notice how despite acting like he so badly wants the trees to come back, he still demabds some form of payment before he tells his story? I get why he doesn't just give the seed out like that because the person needs to understand the value that it has through the story. But why would he put more hurdles in the way of someone that is interested in regrowing the trees? Payment, threats, a dangerous path, breaking the story into segments instead of just telling them outright. The Onceler still hasn't gotten over his greed.
I'm not surprised people are confused about who the bad guy is as this movie introduced multiple antagonists. the original story was simply about the onceler being consumed by greed and ruining things. (they didn't have an abusive family push him into it) the little boy hes telling the story to is both a framing device and a stand in for the audience he is barely a character just a symbol that even when things were ruined by the last generation we can still work to fix our future. this movie decided to insert an entire dystopian community headed by a businessman with henchmen who need to be defeated by our young hero instead. it is not necessarily bad. there are some interesting things they added and commentaries made but it really boats out the story to the point its hardly recognizable.
Mathew should definitely listen to the deleted (demo) version of "how bad can i be?" Which is called "Biggering" and the song literally gets so amazing near the end bro
It's unhinged because it's based on a book of the same name by Dr. Seuss. People, make hiim listen to Biggering, the discarded song that was replaced by How Bad Can I Be. He must be exposed to magnificence.
I'm sure these longer videos are harder to edit but I really enjoyed this! Would love to see a reaction to Happy Feet or Strange Magic, both animated movie musicals if you're interested
3:54 “I’m guessing the plot is gonna be that this kid discovers nature or something” did you… did you not see the original Lorax short? Or even the book??? Damn some people really do just cruise through life missing out on universal experiences ig 😂
Being subscribed to Matthew is great because every so often I'll get a recommendation and auidibly ask myself "has he really not seen that?" And he actually hasn't
I spent this whole reaction wondering if you'd heard of Dr Suess... only to find out that you have, but somehow didn't know this movie is based on one of his books? The original is also FAR darker than this movie... for one, everything beyond the Once-ler telling his backstory were written solely for the movie; the unnamed listener didn't come from the a colourful "utopia" called Thneedville, if they came from anywhere at all. The Once-ler's face is never shown, and he had no family to speak of; his actions were entirely his own. The ending was also left ambiguous: the Lorax never returned, and it's never shown what the child did with the seed. For all we know, they tossed it away.
Plus, 1972 didn't feel bad for causing the animals to be homeless and suffer. Since the ending of the og is unknown, I sorta wrote one myself and it's NOT a happy ending
Confused why you think I didn’t know it was based on one of his books? Haha. I didn’t express any confusion about that or the several Seuss quotes. Just didn’t think it needed mentioning
@@MathewMcKenna Oh well then I apologise for the mistake. It just seems like something you _would_ inform the viewer of, regardless if it seems obvious or not.
your videos always make me laugh a lot. Thank you for doing what you do. It is genuinely hard not to laugh out loud when I'm watching these while my roomate is sleeping
I think you’d really LOVE Red Shoes and the Seven Dwarves!!!! It’s a take on the classic tale that asks, “what if the dwarves weren’t JUST sidekicks?” and features a plus size Snow White!
reminder that dr. fucking seuss basically told everyone in the form of a children’s book “if you don’t do nothing about it the world’s gonna go to shit” like i like dark stuff usually but holy shit dude
Lorax always makes me cry, but I started to watch thinking that i wouldn't since it's Matt's reaction, but i can safely confirm: Lorax will make me cry under any circunstances
@@worthybutter2004 wdym? when you search up lorax 2012 on youtube most of the top searches are about how bad it is or what it could have been, instead of focusing on what is has to offer still @worthybutter2004
Something I find weird about this movie, O’Hare isn’t really doing anything wrong? He didn’t cause the problem and in fact found a solution to it and managed to create a thriving society where people have seemingly free or at least cheap access to his product
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More heathers ❤
thank you so much for doing a whole movie reaction!
i hope you react to more movies!
Nah don't worry it's perfect
Nah, not bothered at all! I’m happy you can react to movies now!
“It is NOT a lie!! It’s called photosynthesis!!” GETS ME EVERY TIME ITS SO FUNNY
Same 😂
It’s unnecessarily funny I swear
HE SPEAKS FOR THE TREES
HE SPEAKS FOR THE TREES
HE SPEAKS FOR THE TREES(I love your pfp, Stan G-idle)
HE SPEAKS FOR THE TREES
HE SPEAKS FOR THE TREES
HE SPEAKS FOR THE TREES
One of the reasons the Lorax cares so much is because they have a very small ecosystem, even though it's thriving it's very fragile. It has 3 animal species plus the space appearances of the Lorax, 1 species of tree, grass and maybe a few shrubs. When The Oncler starts chopping down trees which is one of the only suppliers of food (the weird fruit things) they are very understandably concerned.
For those of you who either haven't done their biology unit in science or forgot about it; having a small ecosystem is pretty bad. If one species is taken out (in this case the trees) something like what happens in this movie can happen, it's very plausible!
Good to know! It has been a while and a reminder that nature is fragile is important
@@YourRyeBread Usually ecosystems can build their way back up from a mishape, but in circumstances like those where there is so little variety the smallest thing can devastate the entire ecosystem. That's why invasive species can be such a problem
Very informative! I never thought about it like that, that makes so much sense actually.
Aye it's just the movie missed it's mark by starting after just ONE tree as making the onceler a bad guy, makes it more an extremist environmental movie, which I why every kid in my highschool class hated the movie and none of us wrote good papers on it
@@Zamerus a reason a lot of people hate it is because if you've read the book or seen the 2d animation of The Lorax, the Onceler was originally just green gloves... actually ALL the humans you see are behind a wall with the only indication of them being human is the green gloves. Because, a company is not just one person it's a train made of apathy with its only goal being to keep the supply going as long as it's in demand. A business can't feel, it can't see what an individual sees, it just does what it's meant to so this movie giving everyone an appearance screws up the meaning.
i didn’t expect him to react to the whole movie lol
tbh same lmao
@@MathewMcKennayayyyy
@MathewMcKenna I'm glad you did! This was fun to watch!
@@MathewMcKennalove it when ya do that
@@MathewMcKenna I love ya dude.
Matthew doing a whole movie reaction is everything I've wanted and more 💀
Agree, hopefully he watches another
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Agreed
Same😂
They fr got ZACH EFFRON and TAYLOR SWIFT as main characters in a MUSICAL and they didn't have either of them sing
EXACTLY😭
That's honestly pretty funny.
I'm kinda of surprised he didn't realize that the Granny was voiced by Betty White. I kept expecting him to suddenly realise it and like "how did I not notice that sooner?" 😅
just thought it was obvious so didn’t comment on it haha
@@MathewMcKennaAlso Audrey is Taylor Swift
@MathewMcKenna as someone who doesn't know who Betty white is. Wasn't obvious
the original Lorax movie is a cartoon from 1972 and is SO much more depressing. it doesn’t include Ted’s storyline and just ends with all the forest animals losing their home and the environment destroyed. definitely made me very aware of the state of the world as a child lol
And yk the SADDEST PART??? See, in this version the onceler actually seems to feel bad for what he's done. In the og, he had VERY LITTLE empathy for the cute, innocent animals he caused to suffer and become homeless. As was said in the video, "how can you not feel horrible about doing this?" But, that's capitalism baby! Imo, they humanized the onceler in the 2012 movie too much. Ig it's so people will relate to him, since I don't think most regular people could cause suffering of others and not care, idk
the ending of the original was left ambiguous because it was a comment on “will we tally change or do anything?”
it was left open as a question to make the point of urgency but also make kids and people realize some “truths” about the world.
Here they need to have a good ending because corporate studio test audiences would never have liked an ambiguous ending,
and they wouldn’t;t be able to ponder to the lowest common denominator and child attention span.
@@maddiemorales1419Bezos and a bunch of other billionaires would like a word with you
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906 lol
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906 yea, 2012 deffo ain't an accurate representation of capitalists. You think after they destroy a forest they'll be like "but...hey, baby bear...please don't be sad...🥺" no lol
I love it when you watch entire movies! Then you can be confused with context ❤️
Seriously, I’ve seen most of the stuff he’s reacted to and sometimes I’m more confused then him
I don’t think they ever point this out in the movie however its theorized (I dont know if it’s cannon) that the Onceler actually tried to grow trees after the Lorax left, trying to fix his mistake, but they all died. Which is why the Onceler waited till someone who really cared about trees to actually give someone the seed knowing it would be planted.
Except the kid in the movie DOESN'T actually give a damn about the trees at all. He's just trying to impress his crush and the tree is just a means to that end.
@@CharginChuck fair enough, but honestly at least he’s doing something. It’s a lot more than anyone else did.
@@CharginChuck I always figured he *grew* to care through hearing the Onceler's story. Initially in it for the girl, but got captivated by the tree, too.
@@falsnamae3511Except that that Beastly TH-camr, while what he is doing is good in a vacuum, only provides a bandaid solution to problems that could be fixed if he also used his platform to inform a bit more about why certain things are problems, and provide outlets that make more permanent and self sustainable solutions. context matters A LOT, especially when considering what comes after the singular act of good deeds anyone can do on their own (no matter how rich or talented a single individual may be); and what you truly desire is always going to betray you; at least in small ways, and gradually move your decisions away from what would be good for what you state your goals to supposedly be, that's literally what happened to the Once-ler, good intentions but his heart did not lean where he said it did. Not to mention the literal line, "a portion goes to charity," Mr. Beast and the Once-ler aren't a 1 to 1 comparison, and in no way am I saying Mr. Beast is a horrible, irredeemable, monster, with no good intentions; what I am saying is that there're repercussions to even innocent ignorance that are easily avoidable if you realize and are honest with what you really care about most.
@@falsnamae3511 Genuine question, are you referring to Matt as the youtuber in your comment? Wondering if there's anything I should be aware of, because he does seem like a decent guy, although I know it's not always the case.
"50 Minutes? There aren't THAT many songs...oh"
For real though, any time I'm reminded this movie exists I have to spend an hour listening to Biggering on loop, the song that went too hard to live.
This movie got roasted for having the Lorax in car sponsorship ads
Biggering isn't that good compared to How Bad Can I Be
The biggering is really good 😭
@@RoseQuartz692 How Bad Can I Be definitely suited the movie more since the movie has a more subtle but easy to understand message. But Biggering is also well liked because its the opposite of How Bad Can I Be, its in your face kind of message is something a lot of people enjoy. Not only that but I feel like people enjoy Biggering because the message shouldn't be subtle at all. This is a really big issue and most people would ignore their problems until its right in front of them. There is not subtle way to tell someone that animals are going extinct and ecosystems are being destroyed. Biggering and How Bad Can I Be are both really good songs and to me are on even footing. Also Biggering makes the Once-ler feel more like a villain (like the book one), but because we know his reasons and thought prosses How Bad Can I Be suited him more (in the movie).
@@awkward_gremlin1297 The main reason it was cut out was because it would expose companies, including illumination itself.
Wow, that's astonishing, because it's a terrible song.
To this day, one minor thing that bugs me about this film is that they got Zac Efron and Taylor Swift as two major characters in a musical and didn't have them sing. What's really sad is that if they had gone with the original version of the opening number, Efron would have actually gotten to sing since Ted actually has an entire verse in that version.
Agreed, and it sure was a fire verse. Mathew thought this was pretty on-the-nose and heavy-handed with it's message, but boy would it have been moreso before. Part of me thinks this more restrained version better portrays how insidious and invisible corporate corruption is, but those original ideas for the songs are just really powerful.
@@Fourger14also the final Songs just feel more flanderized and pandering in my opinion. They're not as nunaced or hard-hitting
A little rumour about “How bad can i be” is that he genuinely doesn’t know what’s happening like how most big corporations have the very top dog who half the time doesn’t see the effect, if i remember correctly its shown by subtle things like him not looking behind him or below him, to him being sheltered from the after effects. I personally adore the song “biggering” it really shows how he (the onceler) doesn’t see the problem because he has been infected by the greed but unfortunately it was never in the movie
see, the problem with that is that if he was really infected by greed, he would have planted at least one tree for every one he cut down to keep the business growing and the money coming. that's how business works. if you wanna make the product, you gotta have the material. or he would have figured out that cutting trees down wouldn't help his business and would have stopped.
@@sop-he-uh I think because his family mostly took over so he was in an office not seeing what was happening, he thought everything was ok, that is of course until he finally saw the chaos he’d created and watched the last tree fall
@@sop-he-uhI think the thing there is that greed and pride blinds people
@@lunadark6666 ohhhhh i see what you're saying
The original 70’s special was way better, it better represented the ACTUAL real world of business
in this to make the unclear not seen as a bad guy, they have him instead be manipulated by his family, and becoming blinded by success
So he’s not a real bad person, he just made a mistake.
whereas in the original special. the lorax and the Oncler go back and forth about the needs of business and nature
with the lorax pointing out that the pollution and environmental destruction by the industrialization is ruining the environment and making it harder to breathe, while chasing away the animals
whereas the Oncler points out that his factories are providing jobs and income for people and their families, and if he stops or shuts them down, all those people will be jobless and have no income
it was a conversation that represented the different interests of both sides, and was promoting the idea that there needs to be some kind of compomise
BUT the Lorax has no clue what that compromise is and the Oncler is unwilling to even think about it, because it’s not as conveninet as the status quo.
Btw, you should really check out the unused songs for this movie, because they are really good. The Biggering especially has become the most popular Lorax song, and it unfortunately wasn't even in the film
Yes! I'm disappointed they didn't put it into the movie
@@captainannie322 SAME
I was JUST about to comment about Biggering! Legit my favourite song from the Lorax, such a bad decision to not put it in the movie!
@@Imtootiredforthissh1t Agreed!
honestly if it’s possible, in another lorax movie it’d be awesome if they could just borrow biggering so that more of the world could hear it
The fact that O'Hare isn't even that far off of how some real life billionaires act in order to satisfy their greed is insane. Like yeah, he says the quiet part out loud and is made to be surface level evil but at the core it still yields the same results😭
"How bad can I be" is such an iconic song,but "biggering" is just perfection,extremely sad it was scrapped
lmao I love how Matt's reaction to seeing the Lorax is to say *"THATS JAKE THE DOG"*
Now I can't unhear it.
13:32 the thneed doesn't matter really its just "the need" that drives us to take and take until there's nothing left - all the names in the original book were more to represent concepts more than characters
You also got to love how much the studio for this film, whored the film out to every product and company they could
totally upending the point of the “needless consumerism” criticized in their won film
and against Seuss’s own noted hatred of the prostitution of art that was consumer culture
@@mckenzie.latham91when they cooperated with a car company to make it Lorax approved they really showed that the PR Team didn't even watch their own movie lmao
It's called manufactured consent...
They show and mock the slimy corporate behaviour and call out the consumer and marketing culture
So people think they are being honest or will say "Hey they called it out at least"
While they in real life, do the exact same thing so people will give them credit for calling it out but they can exploit as much as usual.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED A THNEED I'M SO STUPID
“so what happened to them?” “capitalism” thats it. you got the premise of the whole movie.
Which is totally undermined by how much the studio and animation company that made the film, sold out to ever big marketer and product tie-in they could, as well milked this movie for as much as they could get out of it, while doing almost everything they criticize or point fun of in the film.
That's it, that's the movie. Along with deforestation.
R.I.P Betty White, Grammy Norma could have never been the same amazing character without a legend like you to voice her.
I am just now realizing that this movie doesn’t make perfect sense to people to haven’t been watching it their whole lives
Same?? It's like a cult classic in my school. At least once a year, you'll watch the Lorax in class. Usually Geography, but not always. It's a tradition at this point, and in my experience it's happened maybe five or six years in a row? Anyway it's wild that not everyone has watched this movie 50,000 times and loved it every single rewatch.
@singingofsilver I watched it a few times when it came out as a kid, but I never really liked it. The “boy will do anything for the girl” plot, plus the fact that the Lorax is a complete a$s in this version really put me off. The movie that I DID obsess over as a kid was Horton Hears a Who. I watched that movie like crazy lol.
To be fair on the "I destroyed the planet, it's your job to fix it" that is also.. literally what irl companies do. Anyone else remember the BP "carbon pledge"?
“I’m not gonna question it because it’s a cartoon” -someone who had been questioning everything in said cartoon
I'm not someone who watched the movie as a kid (I had read the book when I was like 5, but don't remember it). But I've had a strange relationship with the movie as an adult, on one hand it's very strange, many parts feel rushed; the conclusion especially is so sudden and is hardly even a conclusion to the story. But it has a surprising amount of heart, it goes completely off the walls with no attempt to have things actually make sense; but it owns that fact. It commits so hard to the wacky world and nonsense that is synonymous with Dr. Seuss and fully delivers on teaching a moral that I think it's probably the most Dr. Seuss like adaptation of a Dr. Seuss book. And I have to love it for that.
Watch the Nostalgic critic’s review of the film, it point sout exactly what is wrong with the film, and how it violates everything Seuss intended
he also gives credit to the 1970’s animated special
doug walker is a big dr seuss fan, and he hates what hollywood has done to most of the Seuss adaptions
especially with how much they undermine and sell out the message by being corporate hacks in real life.
The effort this man put in his videos is insane huge props
I prefer the demo songs a lot, cause they’re more rough, making it sound less like top 40 hits. They also go even harder on the anti-corporate stuff.
The OG Intro doubled as Ted’s ‘I Want’ song (where he used to be a more Kuzco esc protag) and The Once-let’s cut villain song is surprisingly real
I love that he's still confused af with context, also, yes, the granny Is the best character!
She beyty white of course she the Best
Okay but now I need your reaction to Biggering. It was the original villain song for the Onceler before it was replaced by How Bad Can I Be and it is, in my opinion, infinitely better.
I think both songs could have been included in the movie, since biggering share lines with how bad can i be it would have been a great way to show how much worse his actions are becoming over the course of the film
How Bad Can I Be is better
There’s another song?
@@RoseQuartz692OMG, SOMEONE WHO HAS THE SAME OPINION AS ME
I AM SO STRONGLY AGREE BRO :D
I liked Biggering , although How Bad Can I Be was still good. I prefer Biggering for its more raw lines, although How Bad Can I Be is still catchy😅
I am so excited the Lorax was my childhood when the counselors at camp didn't want to deal with the staff kids (I was a staff kid) they just put on the Lorax and left us to our own devices
You’ve got to watch the cut out song “Biggering”, it’s a song that would have really changed the tone of the movie, it got replaced by the How bad could I be song
Somehow still managed to cry at the end despite it being cut for reaction purposes. Wowza. I'd forgotten how much this movie hit me. Glad to see you reacting to it, and I second what other comments have said! The deleted songs (specifically Biggering) are bangers!
The idea of having to buy something as necessary as air could be commentary on how some people have to buy bottled water because no clean tap water is available.
I am astounded at how the entirety of tumbler at one point fell in love with a man who wears a fedora...
1-has you seen how skinny he is?
2-sobbing wet cat of a man,he's sad
3-"one point"? Tumblr is still very much obssessed trust im a tumblr user myself
@@LycanMOONcan confirm that people love soggy wet cat men
33:02 “Harvesting the tufts takes too long!”
That’s because your doing it the wrong way. If *I* was involved, I would just have them cut just above the bottom of the fluffy bit. Like, harvest as much of the fluff as possible in one fell swoop, while still allowing it to eventually regrow. Then it’d be more sustainable
Or better yet, the Once-ler could've just invented a machine that harvested them quicker.
See, this movie is iconic because of just how unhinged it is. But I can never shake off the fact that the movie had a bunch of tie-ins with gigantic corporate entities. Promoting cars with images of the Lorax and the movie. It has no heart. It has no soul. But it is insane, and the memes are too notch. So, I guess something good did come from this movie.
It also gave tumblr their king
i really recommend listening to biggering, it was the original song that the onceler was going to sing, but ended up getting replaced with how bad could i be since biggering made the onceler seem like the villain and the big corporations that helped make the move wanted to be perceived as the onceler not o’hare
Omg yes! That song is amazing and I still don't understand why it was cut from the final movie because it's so good
This movie being basically my childhood, your first time reaction had me DYING 😂
The reason it seems so unnatural and ethereal is because the lorax was written by doctor suess
Yeah, something I noticed is that many reactors tend to question things that happen in movies a lot, particularly if they have surreal aspects to it, which I get, but at the same time it's kinda annoying since it can take them out of the experience if they're constantly questioning what's happening. And sometimes they'd get the answer to their questions if they just kept watching or paid attention in the moments they took to ask them.
I’d like to add that this movie had a HUGE tonal shift mid production. The movie we got was not the movie that was planned, and it’s worse off for it. I mean, half of the movie is literally a big time CEO’s sob story. “I didn’t know I was destroying the envirownment, I just wanted to impwess my family” 🥺👉👈. Which will add to the uncanny felling as… he’s also the bad guy. O’Hare gets what’s coming to him, but for some reason we just pretend the oncelr wasn’t the cause of all of this. The story we got wasn’t actually anti pollution or consumerism, it was just anti O’Hare. And because of that there’s gonna be disconnect between the movie and anyone who actually thinks about the “lessons” the movie presents.
I watched this movie EVERY year in my primary school and I’m so happy my teacher showed it to us cause it’s amazing and has a great message
I think looking back on it now and I didn’t realise this one was younger. I think this also deals with how toxic family can also be and how they can just let shitty behaviour happen because they are also shitty. He did it to a piece of Mum and now they’ve kind of taught him that it’s okay to do thiswhich makes sense I think
Just here to say Matthew should make a reaction to Biggering.
that’d be so good
100%
YESSS
Now that you have context for lorax please, please, please listen to Biggering - a potential song for Lorax that was later replaced by ''How bad can I be?'' because it was too dark/realistic. It's amazing.
I saw the original movie in school back in the late 70s and it's been burned in my memory for all time.
It's always been about the perils of capitalism and need for environmentalism.
also finding a compromise between the interests of business (jobs and income for people and families) while protecting the environment to protect everyone’s health and healthy ecosystems
this film however, just makes the big corporate villain a cliche bad guy and it there is no compromise found i the film
everyone just accepts the nature part with next to no real reason too.
people who were singing in the beginning of the film about how much they love parking lots and modern convenience, suddenly with no reason, support trees and changing their entire way of life after a simple transition change and a song.
Matthew hasn't seen the Lorax??? This is going to be,Wow.
You should check out the cut song for this film, they crank up the anti capitalism to an 11 and are amazing. The original thneedsville demo, the oncelers traveling song, you need a thneed, nobody needs a thneed, biggering. There all great and definitely worth your time
I love this movie and have seen it countless times over the years. Seeing your blind reaction made me realize how crazy it is 😭🤚
You should watch the original movie now!! I love this lorax for the memories but the original has such good songs and a clearer message. Really good short film
wither or not you like this movie the grandma is an absolute ✨ ICON ✨
This is very true.
I know that there are already probably dozens of comments saying this, but I would highly recommend listening to the cut song Biggering. It does a much better job at representing real corporations and how they treat the environment, and the song itself is an absolute bop
did you know that on the first version of the movie there was another song called "Biggering"? Yes, that was at the beginning. However it was way to realistic and serious and could cause damage to many big companies so it was replaced with "How bad can i be" which was aboyt same thing but way more silly and goofy. Pls do the reaction for this song, in my opinion it's way better than "How bad can I be"
I am the lorax, I speak for the trees, please stop breaking them, or I'll take your knees.
- my brain
I love this movie, they really done great characters and had put cool details in the movie, Once-ler is like a very live character for example and not a bad man just because he is supposed to, his family made him cut down the trees and stuff (he says "...cut down a FEW trees", he noticing that but his family just goes "Nah, whatever. It couldn't hurt."), Ted also change his motivation from impressing Audrey to actually save the world, the whole thing with why O'Hare's products became in demand, etc!
Well, the Once-ler definitely wasn't quite like that in the original version from 1972.
I laugh at Mathew’s reaction more then I laughed at the movie
Ah yes, The Lorax, Birth place of the Tumbler Sexyman.
I would recommend watching the original animation, I think it does a much better job with the message of the story.
yes totally
Yes but it didn't have baba girl oncie
That'd be cool.
@@BABS_SEED Who f*cking cares about him?
"Is it just going to be themost buetiful thing hes ever seen?" (Talking about when ted goes overthe wall) *sees the land being all dark* "oh no, its just going to be super depressing" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i choked on my food when watching that scene 😂😂😂😂😂
“I am the Lorax I speak for the trees, if you break just one I will break your knees.”
Great video :D there was a different version of the onceler’s villain song called “Biggering” that I think you’d find interesting! It’s on youtube, it goes even deeper into the greed and corporate issues the movie kinda touched on.
As a lot more people had said, you should Listen to ''Biggering'' the original track from the movie instead of how bad can i be that they removed for being too real
Ok now i need Matthew to watch all the songs from movies hes checked out
After seeing this I feel like Matt would have some funny reactions watching hoodwinked 😂
Hey Mathew! If you enjoyed this, you need to listen to the original demos of the soundtrack. BIGGERING (the original villain song written for the onceler) runs circles around ‘How Bad Can I Be?’ and the original ‘Thneedville’ is better too!!
If I remember correctly when we went to watch this in theatres it was the first time I had gone when there was literally no one else in there apart from us and it was a total fever dream of a movie and I never thought about or heard of it again until YEARS later
Also on the whole "I broke it so now _you're_ gonna have to fix it": Notice how despite acting like he so badly wants the trees to come back, he still demabds some form of payment before he tells his story? I get why he doesn't just give the seed out like that because the person needs to understand the value that it has through the story. But why would he put more hurdles in the way of someone that is interested in regrowing the trees? Payment, threats, a dangerous path, breaking the story into segments instead of just telling them outright. The Onceler still hasn't gotten over his greed.
his reaction to taylor swift being in it 😭
A whole 51 minutes and 38 seconds of Mathew McKenna, Im in heaven!!! ✨️
I saw this notification and was like 'watching?? Not listening to songs??' this is so exciting :D I'm so glad you did this!
My jam is a kid! I don’t care how bad it is compared to the original, I’ll always love it. 🤣😅
I'm not surprised people are confused about who the bad guy is as this movie introduced multiple antagonists. the original story was simply about the onceler being consumed by greed and ruining things. (they didn't have an abusive family push him into it) the little boy hes telling the story to is both a framing device and a stand in for the audience he is barely a character just a symbol that even when things were ruined by the last generation we can still work to fix our future. this movie decided to insert an entire dystopian community headed by a businessman with henchmen who need to be defeated by our young hero instead. it is not necessarily bad. there are some interesting things they added and commentaries made but it really boats out the story to the point its hardly recognizable.
i'm convinced there is NOTHING that this man has NOT reacted to 😭😂
HE STILL DOESN'T HAVE ANO GRAVITY FALLS CONTENT THO
FNAF SONGS???
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epic the musical?
I WAS SO CUT OFF GUARD WHEN I SAW THIS VIDEO THAT I SPIT OUT MY DRINK 💀 /pos
The Onceler is the only Tumblr sexyman I know lol
Lol
sans undertale
Mathew should definitely listen to the deleted (demo) version of "how bad can i be?" Which is called "Biggering" and the song literally gets so amazing near the end bro
"What happened to them?"
*"Capitalism"*
He's not wrong
It's unhinged because it's based on a book of the same name by Dr. Seuss.
People, make hiim listen to Biggering, the discarded song that was replaced by How Bad Can I Be. He must be exposed to magnificence.
oh no, I remember being OBSESSED with this movie 😭 I can't wait for your reaction omg-
Yes, that is the Lorax, and he speaks for the trees. If we litter again, he’ll probably break our knees…
4:52, The Movie's Based On A Book By Dr. Seuss, Stuff Like Butterfly Milk Is Stuff You Probably Shouldn't Think Too Hard About
Dr. Seuss stories are often pretty bonkers, so I can understand why you'd be confused for most of the movie.
I'm sure these longer videos are harder to edit but I really enjoyed this! Would love to see a reaction to Happy Feet or Strange Magic, both animated movie musicals if you're interested
Yes I love those!
7:38 It’s always funny when people cringe at their own jokes when everyone else found it funny.
You should listen to the cut songs, especially “Biggering”, “The Once-ler’s Traveling Madness”, and “I Love Nature.”
3:54 “I’m guessing the plot is gonna be that this kid discovers nature or something” did you… did you not see the original Lorax short? Or even the book??? Damn some people really do just cruise through life missing out on universal experiences ig 😂
"So what happened to them?"
"Capitalism"
Yeah, pretty much
"Why did I think the Once-ler was a villain?"
Uhhh, who's gonna tell him?
3:26
"He looks like a Sleeze ball"
Matthew, I can't 😂I'm *dYiNg*
I didn't know the "who bad can I be?" audio came from this movie, that's so crazy
Im so glad you reacted to this movie. I used to watch this movie all the time with my little brother. We would even act out as some of the characters
Being subscribed to Matthew is great because every so often I'll get a recommendation and auidibly ask myself "has he really not seen that?" And he actually hasn't
I spent this whole reaction wondering if you'd heard of Dr Suess... only to find out that you have, but somehow didn't know this movie is based on one of his books? The original is also FAR darker than this movie... for one, everything beyond the Once-ler telling his backstory were written solely for the movie; the unnamed listener didn't come from the a colourful "utopia" called Thneedville, if they came from anywhere at all.
The Once-ler's face is never shown, and he had no family to speak of; his actions were entirely his own. The ending was also left ambiguous: the Lorax never returned, and it's never shown what the child did with the seed. For all we know, they tossed it away.
Plus, 1972 didn't feel bad for causing the animals to be homeless and suffer. Since the ending of the og is unknown, I sorta wrote one myself and it's NOT a happy ending
Confused why you think I didn’t know it was based on one of his books? Haha. I didn’t express any confusion about that or the several Seuss quotes. Just didn’t think it needed mentioning
@@MathewMcKenna have you read the og book? What do you think of 1972 onceler? That man is actually js pure evil
@@MathewMcKenna Oh well then I apologise for the mistake. It just seems like something you _would_ inform the viewer of, regardless if it seems obvious or not.
34:28 for anyone wondering
your videos always make me laugh a lot. Thank you for doing what you do. It is genuinely hard not to laugh out loud when I'm watching these while my roomate is sleeping
I think you’d really LOVE Red Shoes and the Seven Dwarves!!!! It’s a take on the classic tale that asks, “what if the dwarves weren’t JUST sidekicks?” and features a plus size Snow White!
reminder that dr. fucking seuss basically told everyone in the form of a children’s book “if you don’t do nothing about it the world’s gonna go to shit” like i like dark stuff usually but holy shit dude
Lorax always makes me cry, but I started to watch thinking that i wouldn't since it's Matt's reaction, but i can safely confirm: Lorax will make me cry under any circunstances
28:16 his reaction to that part, my god thats pure gold 😂😂😂
it's nice seeing someone react to this movie without the negative bias that most people have about the movie
Really? Most reactions i've seen haven't had that.
@@worthybutter2004 wdym? when you search up lorax 2012 on youtube most of the top searches are about how bad it is or what it could have been, instead of focusing on what is has to offer still @worthybutter2004
Just got the discord notif for this and honestly didn't expect it but not disappointed one bit
MATHEW HAS FINALLU WATCHED LORAX!!! What a day!
Something I find weird about this movie, O’Hare isn’t really doing anything wrong? He didn’t cause the problem and in fact found a solution to it and managed to create a thriving society where people have seemingly free or at least cheap access to his product