Based on what taking some of my 1/4 inch stuff close to failure point feels like and how small those pins are i was ready stand by my guess. But i was way off 😂😂.
@@ClientGraphics Support the head of the ratchet with your other hand... As is, you are not being consistent, so it's not a valid test. Some are straight, and some are laying over when they break.
Note for chrome universal joints (hand drive) Napa-Evercraft, Dewalt, Stanley, Snap-On all made it past 190 ft/lb to failure. Of these four, there would be no question Snap-On would be the most $. The other three would be significantly less $, all four would have the same "lifetime" warranty. In real world wrenching, you're NOT going to apply that much torque to a 3/8" square drive universal joint. Real value of these test is proving the wrencher status brands are not always better than what are considered inferior or lesser brands. Knowledge can be powerful as in real world wrenching the better value for your $ is not always the wrencher status brand. ~Big Thanks to Chris for putting stuff like this on youTube as it can make a real difference in delineating real value -vs- marketing.
On an angle or bend by hand, it's hard to apply over 60 ft-lbs and keep everything stable. Evercraft was probably the biggest surprise to me out of all the ones tested in the video. There is so much value in the market today that one brand is not an end-all solution. Appreciate you watching and commenting.
@@wickedoffroadmachines Recently tried "warranty" on a Facom socket the split (cordless impact wrench, should not have done this) . Facom is a EU subsidiary of Stanley-Black & Decker. This series of Facom socket has not been sold in the US of A since Stanley-Black & Decker purchased Facom from the French. One phone call to Stanely Hand tools division which is Proto-Blackhawk, the gal found a similar equivalent socket then shipped the replacement socket free of any charges. No question asked, no split-broken socket sent back.. Not bad at all for customer service for using a socket not as intended. Purchase Stanley-Proto-Blackhawk tools again, Absolutely.
Breaking a universal doesn't really provide allot of insight into its function or durability. It would have been nice to see how steep of a angle that they would function with ease being that they are a "swivel" . My experience with swivels and adapters is the tend to slip off because of the angle or break from excessive force because there binding and under excessive ange forcing pressure making them sloppy . I've never seen anyone put a swivel on to break a head bolt loose that's in a open space and that's basically what you are simulated . It was nice to see the durability but it dint show the best functionality of each swivel . Removing a torqued fastener from a remote loction would have been ideal using a torque wrench. How much torque could be applied without slipping or breaking . Allot of time long extensions are used and braced against the body of the car or work piece to remove a fastener . One example being removing transmission bolts or starter bolts . If the socket is bound it's more then likely not going to achieve the same test results
I agree. I feel like this video does not provide much info. Just breaking stuff... Not to mention you torque down on it straight and not at an angle. Also, some are impact rated and some are not.
Having woeked on cars a while, the most torque/abuse a swivel impact or adapter is likely to ever see are struts to knuckle bolts and caliper bracket bolts, due to the often large angle and being directly connected to impact gun. Doing bellhousing bolts, the angle is much less and extensions reduce torque at the ujoint so its not so bad.
@@connor3288 I've done my fair share of transmission pulling and in some situations like a front wheel drive your angle will be maxed out .The bolts will have locktight on them and it'll be just like a caliper bracket or tighter especially in the all wheel drive models . The more you hammer on the swivel the hotter it gets and shortens it's life . The reason for my comment was your not just going to break a impact swivel in the method he's using it or shorten it's life or not be able to use it from the particular test method used other then deliberately breaking it .. I have swivels that are useless because there gulled up and the pin is not broke making it useless because it's stuck or no longer swivels . It's one thing to break something for no good reason and another to explain the life and strength of a tool for what it's used for and how the the metal can break down like flexing a piece of metal back and forth till it cracks and breaks . That would be the life of a swivel not breaking it like a extension to see how strong it is . As I said not a bad video just not the life of the swivel nor what it's used for or showing it's maxed angle of usage getting damaged . It's one thing to break them another to use them every day in a shop where everyone has different brand tools that hold up in every day use .
Me too I picked up about eleven sets of the half inch drive PINLESS IMPACT from 7/16"-7/8" and I have yet to break one, or twist, crack or anything really they are spring loaded also, so I'm a gigantic fan of these things the tool dealer was going out of business so I bought all that I could I think he has like 20 sets of them left
The fact that I buy grey pneumatic, gear wrench and snap on and they all performed really well... looks like I know how to choose high quality tools. 😎
I recently purchased the ABN spark plug 6 magnetic socket set and man what a difference. Made the job way easier. I tested them on a 87 Nissan D21 Z24 engine (8 spark plug) and it was great a day. They look super similar to the GearWrench set.
Testing them in a straight configuration seems wrong to me. The whole point of a universal is use at an angle. How much difference would there be with failure test at an angle?
The problem is you can’t reliably test at an angle because of the nature of the problem. The torque will vary depending on the exact position of the pieces of the joint. It’s why you never use a u-joint with a torque wrench either. Straight testing shows the maximum raw strength of the components, that’s what matters. The amount of torque you can safely apply when actually using it as a u-joint is probably around 50% of the breaking strength. Only two of them failed below 125ft lbs, which means all the others should be good to at least the ASME Min proof spec of 62.5ft lbs, although I would be wary of the Craftsman and any other that showed evidence of bending in the 62.5ft lbs test.
I like how this demonstration shows its got more to do with the DESIGN than the manufacturer. Pretty happy with how my Pittsburgh Impact Swivel held up, I like them better than the universals anyway.
I haven’t bought any of these in a while: would have shoved some RTV into gaps just because I don’t like slop. I would have included Mac tools and Matco but as you said, you weren’t interested. It’s your video so more power to you. Thanks for all the info. Bill
Nice video and test, also quite unique. It would have been nice to see other brands and designs like the Ko-ken 3771Z or the Nepros NBJ3. Maybe in a battle of the top names with Snap-on, Ko-ken, Nepros, etc. Most videos like this include Snap-on as the top player, but few consider how they might compare to the top brands from other countries.
Nice! That's a tough one to get accurate because any angle variation or inconsistent pressure and it can throw the readings off. But it looked like you kept them all pretty straight.
I did my best and so did the spring-loaded Motivx Tools u-joint. Very cool concept and definitely more affordable at $24.95 on Amazon compared to a Matco 3pc spring-loaded set Part No. S3USL at $89.95. Direct link to Amazon www.amazon.com/Motivx-Tools-Universal-4-Inch-U-Joints/dp/B07WK99RST
Motivx Tools After 40 years of wrenching on everything from classic cars to trains I’ve acquired enough universal joints to fill a gallon can but that didn’t stop me from buying the Motivx set that was in this test. You can see and feel the quality compared to others I own, Snap-on, Proto, Herbrand, etc. The only problem I have with them is I don’t know if I should put them in my toolbox or a display cabinet because they are that nice!
@@baxter130 Ha, awesome! Toolbox for sure, they were made to be used. Ever since we launched them last year, the response has been overwhelmingly positive. Thanks for picking up a set!
I have been coming to youtube for all kinds of rain video to help me sleep...you should be able to guess where this is going.....cuz I'll be looking up these videos from now on cuz you are definitely putting me to sleep.
Job smart from tractor supply has some neet universal joints adapters they have a lock out sleeve and there 15 dollers they come in a 3 pack 1/4 3/8 and 1/2 inch they would be cool to see you test
Keep in mind, these impact rated universals are being used against their design. It's a little apples to oranges, even though they did the best. I would like to see this video, only with the impact ones, taken to failure with an impact wrench. That would be a good show.
There's a weird market perception that impact rated means tougher but as you saw the Titan with the least flesh of impact rated performed substantially worse, all my customers at Sydneytools just dive on more expensive ordinary impact rated ones when we have plenty Bahco or sidchrome chromed Universal's that are probably stronger.
@@DoesntHurtYet it's still apple's to oranges by design. A chrome socket is designed for consistent and more or less constant pressure, and an impact socket is made to withstand intermittent (albeit it very short recesses between anvil strikes) shock/jarring force. Chrome gets it done with "finesse" and impact sockets with brute force. Chrome sockets are almost always harder than impacts. Buy yourself two impact guns, run one exclusively with impact rated sockets, and the other with chrome. Do this for six months and compare the anvils.
@@jedediahhoffman7925 no doubt, i agree but I'm coming from the angle I'm sure this video addresses for most people, which tool is most versatile in strength rather than correct for the job. I can only assume they damage their wallets, sockets and bolts with the illusion they need impact. Like you "could" use a full tang chisel instead of cold chisel because you can find them cheaper, but is it strong enough to justify not just getting a cold chisel that'll last 1000 uses instead of a chisel you'll grind to a stub if it lasts 50
@@DoesntHurtYet if could use vs should use ruled though, where would we be without our beloved crescent wrenches? The tool designed, sold, and beloved, targeted specifically for getting around not using the right tool. All I'm asking is for a shoot out between these big brands. Cornell, snap on, GP, and all the other brands you might find in took boxes all over the u.s.
I own some grey pneumatic wobble sockets, haven't tested them yet but I automatically lower my expectations when dealing with a design using a swivel/flex joint.
I have this old husky U-joint that I bought at a yard sale. The left side of the pin pops out less than an inch. I have been trying to break it at work so I can warranty it for a new one and it hasn't given up!!!
Break that shit...👈✔ 1:15...I have those Grey Pneumatic(GP) adapters I like em.... I'm already going to call for a re test of the Dewalt ...simply because if you had used the longer wrench and applied consistent, progressive (dynamic) torque I believe the number would have been higher...
The videos Clinet Graphics makes are important for anyone using tools because it guides you toward the toughest potential tools for your job. The Titan was pathetic for an impacted ratchet socket it was a joke Great Video
Years ago 1978 I purchased a Proto 5/8” universal spark plug deep socket I used it once and cracked the U-joint it floated around the box until three years ago I found it and sent it back to Stanley/Proto and they swapped it for a common proto 5/8 short socket. But u-joint docket are the weakest and the if they are defective they may not make one use.
Back in the day, I had some S-K sockets - 3/8" set (prize for top apprentice) and a set of imperial flex (built in universal) sockets - biggest mistake of my tool life! Split a brand new 9/16th just putting it on the bolt - didn't get a chance to actually apply torque. Broke 3 of the flex sockets with moderate load on the short ratchet supplied - and at the time I wasn't a big lad. Later they became S-K Wayne - but still wouldn't recommend them to a bicycle mechanic...
Thank you for doing this! Have to say I look forward to each of these videos as I need multiple sets of the same tool for work and work at home. Knowing that there are good options that take the abuse for significantly less than Snapon is a great thing. Now is there any way you can test out the new Ingersoll rand Hans tools? Been dying to see how these perform.. just weary of pulling the trigger and ordering them.
Beware of some of the craftsman universals. The newer ones I'm not sure about. But the ones sold 10 years ago have a pin that is knurled in the middle so if the pin breaks it can fall out. This might not be a problem for most places you'll be using one. However the spark plug universal uses this same design. If that pin snaps and it's down a spark plug tube, you can guess where that metal pin is likely to end up.
I've got several older chrome 1/2" and one remaining 3/8" . Those are all but obsolete. I've got the Pittsburgh Professional set , I use the 3/8" with low profile Sunex 3/8" drive metric sockets .
I don’t have any of the SK FlexZone sockets, sorry. Interesting concept, but I personally haven’t destroyed too many impact sockets that it would make sense for me to purchase and test them.
I don’t support craftsman anymore (just for the record) but the reason the craftsman test was so hard to keep from (bending) is because you had it rotated 90 deg. from the rest of the sockets causing it to rotate forward under your loading
I have a ? 4 U...in the beginning when u held them to show them with no slack....a swivel joint is made to swivel...whats the point of the stiffness / play???
Ideally you would want the u-joint to hold a socket in whatever angle you need and move only when you need it to fit on the fastener once past all obstacles and bends. After repeated use they typically loosen/wear and a socket just flops on the u-joint. Cheaper brands are notorious for being floppy people will wrap electrical tape on the joint to help hold it.
Question about the failure of the Tekton, you said the connecting link sheared but was there any deformation in the drive ears, is it possible that it could be rebuilt?
Do you recommend using these universal joints to torque wrench certain bolts that can’t be reached ? Or should torque really be applied at the right angle with the torque wrench ?
Problem is too many variables. Meaning that depends on angle at turn, exact torque, and deflection. I really don't mind a loose swivel tho for a non pro. Good video tho
Hi there nice info! I'm searching for u-joint, as in driveline, comparisons. Do you know anyone who has compared wear, load abilities, and resistance to operational grime with OEM new u-joints and a few popular aftermarket brands too? Like Moog to Spicer to Toyota to GM, etc. I am especially interested in tests between the same size of competitive brands of both sealed and re-greaseable universal joints. Thanks!
What's the point of the swivel if you're meant to keep it straight? What if I need to take out a spark plug on an angle or around a corner? What should I be using?
It would be nice if you put an aprox price on the chart. at the end. I think we all are looking for value over the very best. I know there are always sales and what not but what you paid is good information.
Some of the items came in sets of 3 vs others as single while some were apart of a larger complete tool set. A few like the JobSmart were on clearance or the Harbor Freight I used a 30% off coupon so the pricing was all over the board and didn’t make sense to calculate on this one.
Perhaps useful to also show a line with the price in the graph with the breaking moments. Does that line go linearly with the force shown? But an interesting test anyway, and gives a good indication of the quality. Thanks. Greetings from Holland, Ferry
Testing them to failure is cool but I would have been more interested in their usability. Like bend them 35° and see which ones transmit torque and which ones tend to "fold into themselves"
I think the snapon is for sure the best for chrome/hand tool applications. It held up great, it’s made in the USA, and it would be more consistent with the quality standards of snapon to repeat that test and get the same, or similar results. Don’t think the same could be said for evercraft, dewalt, or stanley being that they’re made in Taiwan/China. As for impact swivels, out of the ones you tested, obviously grey pneumatic is the best, but I would like to see one comparing snapon, dewalt, evercraft, and basically all of the other great performers impact versions.
I didn't think the chrome universals would make it past 90-100 ft lbs.
I didn’t think they would take that much either, but by hand 75-100 ft-lbs is a lot on these u-joints.
Based on what taking some of my 1/4 inch stuff close to failure point feels like and how small those pins are i was ready stand by my guess. But i was way off 😂😂.
Personally I’ve put 100 ftlbs on a 1/4” drive 13mm snap on without failure or deformation
@@ClientGraphics Support the head of the ratchet with your other hand... As is, you are not being consistent, so it's not a valid test. Some are straight, and some are laying over when they break.
They are universal jointd and they should swivel
Essentially you could use all of these as a drive shaft on a civic😂
You're not wrong
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Rwd swap civic with universal joint
Note for chrome universal joints (hand drive) Napa-Evercraft, Dewalt, Stanley, Snap-On all made it past 190 ft/lb to failure. Of these four, there would be no question Snap-On would be the most $. The other three would be significantly less $, all four would have the same "lifetime" warranty. In real world wrenching, you're NOT going to apply that much torque to a 3/8" square drive universal joint. Real value of these test is proving the wrencher status brands are not always better than what are considered inferior or lesser brands. Knowledge can be powerful as in real world wrenching the better value for your $ is not always the wrencher status brand.
~Big Thanks to Chris for putting stuff like this on youTube as it can make a real difference in delineating real value -vs- marketing.
On an angle or bend by hand, it's hard to apply over 60 ft-lbs and keep everything stable. Evercraft was probably the biggest surprise to me out of all the ones tested in the video. There is so much value in the market today that one brand is not an end-all solution. Appreciate you watching and commenting.
Doing the top bolts on BMW transmission bellhousing...
You need a very strong swivel
Have you ever impacted out brake booster bolts? That requires two swivels, so I'm guessing the angles at least double the ft lbs required
I believe your right more about the evercraft and dewalt, but Stanley's warranty has been shit for years
@@wickedoffroadmachines Recently tried "warranty" on a Facom socket the split (cordless impact wrench, should not have done this) . Facom is a EU subsidiary of Stanley-Black & Decker. This series of Facom socket has not been sold in the US of A since Stanley-Black & Decker purchased Facom from the French. One phone call to Stanely Hand tools division which is Proto-Blackhawk, the gal found a similar equivalent socket then shipped the replacement socket free of any charges. No question asked, no split-broken socket sent back..
Not bad at all for customer service for using a socket not as intended. Purchase Stanley-Proto-Blackhawk tools again, Absolutely.
Breaking a universal doesn't really provide allot of insight into its function or durability. It would have been nice to see how steep of a angle that they would function with ease being that they are a "swivel" . My experience with swivels and adapters is the tend to slip off because of the angle or break from excessive force because there binding and under excessive ange forcing pressure making them sloppy . I've never seen anyone put a swivel on to break a head bolt loose that's in a open space and that's basically what you are simulated . It was nice to see the durability but it dint show the best functionality of each swivel . Removing a torqued fastener from a remote loction would have been ideal using a torque wrench. How much torque could be applied without slipping or breaking . Allot of time long extensions are used and braced against the body of the car or work piece to remove a fastener . One example being removing transmission bolts or starter bolts . If the socket is bound it's more then likely not going to achieve the same test results
Thank you for pointing that out, anyone can sit there and destroy a product means nothing it's better to demonstrated in real life scenario in use.
I agree. I feel like this video does not provide much info. Just breaking stuff... Not to mention you torque down on it straight and not at an angle. Also, some are impact rated and some are not.
Bro, make a Patreon. I also want to see
Having woeked on cars a while, the most torque/abuse a swivel impact or adapter is likely to ever see are struts to knuckle bolts and caliper bracket bolts, due to the often large angle and being directly connected to impact gun. Doing bellhousing bolts, the angle is much less and extensions reduce torque at the ujoint so its not so bad.
@@connor3288 I've done my fair share of transmission pulling and in some situations like a front wheel drive your angle will be maxed out .The bolts will have locktight on them and it'll be just like a caliper bracket or tighter especially in the all wheel drive models . The more you hammer on the swivel the hotter it gets and shortens it's life . The reason for my comment was your not just going to break a impact swivel in the method he's using it or shorten it's life or not be able to use it from the particular test method used other then deliberately breaking it .. I have swivels that are useless because there gulled up and the pin is not broke making it useless because it's stuck or no longer swivels . It's one thing to break something for no good reason and another to explain the life and strength of a tool for what it's used for and how the the metal can break down like flexing a piece of metal back and forth till it cracks and breaks .
That would be the life of a swivel not breaking it like a extension to see how strong it is . As I said not a bad video just not the life of the swivel nor what it's used for or showing it's maxed angle of usage getting damaged . It's one thing to break them another to use them every day in a shop where everyone has different brand tools that hold up in every day use .
Follow up video. I want to see you take each of them back to their respective retailer and the replacement process.
Dude.... Fantastic comment I bet he won't do it. He usually wears sandals in the shop so I doubt he actually uses those metal devices
I wear flip flops in my shop all the time. And definitely do more automotive work than the average joe
Let’s see some floor jacks!!
It’s like a horse race and I’m routing for my favorite brands! Cool video, glad SK performed well.
I was hoping the Tekton would do well and it ended up sucking! The Tekton ratchet is good though. 🤣😭
Most of the time I use the impact universal joints for just about everything. I hardly ever use the standard ones anymore.
Me too I picked up about eleven sets of the half inch drive PINLESS IMPACT from 7/16"-7/8" and I have yet to break one, or twist, crack or anything really they are spring loaded also, so I'm a gigantic fan of these things the tool dealer was going out of business so I bought all that I could I think he has like 20 sets of them left
Really surprised to see the Tekton adapter do so poorly - I'm guessing this is one of their "old" items prior to their push to improve their quality.
I believe Sunex is supposed to be better quality across the board
MotivX socket sets with the spring loaded U joints are some of the best sockets I've ever purchased.
I hope so just ordered them. Do the inner springs fail?
The fact that I buy grey pneumatic, gear wrench and snap on and they all performed really well... looks like I know how to choose high quality tools. 😎
I recently purchased the ABN spark plug 6 magnetic socket set and man what a difference. Made the job way easier.
I tested them on a 87 Nissan D21 Z24 engine (8 spark plug) and it was great a day.
They look super similar to the GearWrench set.
My armstrong set has been flawless for me thx for the video
Good review, but honestly without testing the Nepros and Ko-ken models you've missed the 2 best ones! Game changers. You'll be blown away, seriously.
Testing them in a straight configuration seems wrong to me.
The whole point of a universal is use at an angle.
How much difference would there be with failure test at an angle?
The problem is you can’t reliably test at an angle because of the nature of the problem. The torque will vary depending on the exact position of the pieces of the joint. It’s why you never use a u-joint with a torque wrench either.
Straight testing shows the maximum raw strength of the components, that’s what matters. The amount of torque you can safely apply when actually using it as a u-joint is probably around 50% of the breaking strength. Only two of them failed below 125ft lbs, which means all the others should be good to at least the ASME Min proof spec of 62.5ft lbs, although I would be wary of the Craftsman and any other that showed evidence of bending in the 62.5ft lbs test.
@@geoffstrickler I hear ya bro and tend to agree. But I'd like to see the angled test nonetheless!
@@geoffstrickler I've used one on a torque wrench plenty of times.. Sometimes you just can't get anything else in there
@@brettwalkom948 but you won’t get accurate readings when you do. It’s just guesswork if you use a u-joint on a torque wrench.
@@geoffstrickler every bolt has a plus or minus.. 5 or so ftlbs here or there won't matter
I like how this demonstration shows its got more to do with the DESIGN than the manufacturer. Pretty happy with how my Pittsburgh Impact Swivel held up, I like them better than the universals anyway.
I haven’t bought any of these in a while: would have shoved some RTV into gaps just because I don’t like slop. I would have included Mac tools and Matco but as you said, you weren’t interested. It’s your video so more power to you. Thanks for all the info. Bill
But we were interested.
Good stuff! Some day SnapOn will win one of these contests and validate their prices.
Duralast impact for me, I just bought it today at autozone to remove stubborn nut from my son’s e46, it was like nothing to it. Thanks for the video!
This channel is pure gold!
“If you don’t like it give it two thumbs down”🤣🤣 I actually have never heard that one before!
I know right? A friend actually jokingly said I’ll two thumbs down it this week and I said I’m totally using that line😁
ClientGraphics that’s the best kind of friend😂
The second click cancels out the first click. Just a way to keep the thumbs down votes from showing up. Not cool !
@@ClientGraphics Awesome line!
@@vger66 Duh?
The snap on just happens to the most expensive.
Me: you don’t say
Nice video and test, also quite unique. It would have been nice to see other brands and designs like the Ko-ken 3771Z or the Nepros NBJ3. Maybe in a battle of the top names with Snap-on, Ko-ken, Nepros, etc. Most videos like this include Snap-on as the top player, but few consider how they might compare to the top brands from other countries.
Awesome video! I think this is going to be a great year for you. Those subs are going to start pouring in!
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I’m showing it for $3 and get an extra 20% off with code HONOR - so, $2.40, which is likely less than the sales tax on the Snap On universal
Nice! That's a tough one to get accurate because any angle variation or inconsistent pressure and it can throw the readings off. But it looked like you kept them all pretty straight.
I did my best and so did the spring-loaded Motivx Tools u-joint. Very cool concept and definitely more affordable at $24.95 on Amazon compared to a Matco 3pc spring-loaded set Part No. S3USL at $89.95. Direct link to Amazon www.amazon.com/Motivx-Tools-Universal-4-Inch-U-Joints/dp/B07WK99RST
Motivx Tools After 40 years of wrenching on everything from classic cars to trains I’ve acquired enough universal joints to fill a gallon can but that didn’t stop me from buying the Motivx set that was in this test. You can see and feel the quality compared to others I own, Snap-on, Proto, Herbrand, etc. The only problem I have with them is I don’t know if I should put them in my toolbox or a display cabinet because they are that nice!
@@baxter130 Ha, awesome! Toolbox for sure, they were made to be used. Ever since we launched them last year, the response has been overwhelmingly positive. Thanks for picking up a set!
@@baxter130 On second thought, you could use one set for your display cabinet and get another for the toolbox...
I have been coming to youtube for all kinds of rain video to help me sleep...you should be able to guess where this is going.....cuz I'll be looking up these videos from now on cuz you are definitely putting me to sleep.
Very impressive testing and results some very high values
I personally support either the extension or the ratchet when laying down torque.
Yup me as wel
Job smart from tractor supply has some neet universal joints adapters they have a lock out sleeve and there 15 dollers they come in a 3 pack 1/4 3/8 and 1/2 inch they would be cool to see you test
Snap On FTW wish you had a Snap On impact one to try
Keep in mind, these impact rated universals are being used against their design. It's a little apples to oranges, even though they did the best. I would like to see this video, only with the impact ones, taken to failure with an impact wrench. That would be a good show.
There's a weird market perception that impact rated means tougher but as you saw the Titan with the least flesh of impact rated performed substantially worse, all my customers at Sydneytools just dive on more expensive ordinary impact rated ones when we have plenty Bahco or sidchrome chromed Universal's that are probably stronger.
@@DoesntHurtYet it's still apple's to oranges by design. A chrome socket is designed for consistent and more or less constant pressure, and an impact socket is made to withstand intermittent (albeit it very short recesses between anvil strikes) shock/jarring force. Chrome gets it done with "finesse" and impact sockets with brute force. Chrome sockets are almost always harder than impacts. Buy yourself two impact guns, run one exclusively with impact rated sockets, and the other with chrome. Do this for six months and compare the anvils.
@@jedediahhoffman7925 no doubt, i agree but I'm coming from the angle I'm sure this video addresses for most people, which tool is most versatile in strength rather than correct for the job. I can only assume they damage their wallets, sockets and bolts with the illusion they need impact.
Like you "could" use a full tang chisel instead of cold chisel because you can find them cheaper, but is it strong enough to justify not just getting a cold chisel that'll last 1000 uses instead of a chisel you'll grind to a stub if it lasts 50
@@DoesntHurtYet if could use vs should use ruled though, where would we be without our beloved crescent wrenches? The tool designed, sold, and beloved, targeted specifically for getting around not using the right tool. All I'm asking is for a shoot out between these big brands. Cornell, snap on, GP, and all the other brands you might find in took boxes all over the u.s.
I like the impact ones better even with a ratchet more control with the impact style ones
I own some grey pneumatic wobble sockets, haven't tested them yet but I automatically lower my expectations when dealing with a design using a swivel/flex joint.
I have this old husky U-joint that I bought at a yard sale. The left side of the pin pops out less than an inch. I have been trying to break it at work so I can warranty it for a new one and it hasn't given up!!!
Pittsburgh for me💪🏻 the price point and the return on your money is unbeatable 👍🏻
Gearwrench pinless is basically a one time use item on a truck brand 3/8 impact, they deform and lock up
I think the Tekton needs another go
And the craftsman the stanley/ husky are made at the same factory
@@raphealwood4434 no shit ? In Taiwan I'm guessing most tekton comes from Taiwan
I can show you some of the black and decker bits are made in Taiwan...
Break that shit...👈✔
1:15...I have those Grey Pneumatic(GP) adapters I like em.... I'm already going to call for a re test of the Dewalt ...simply because if you had used the longer wrench and applied consistent, progressive (dynamic) torque I believe the number would have been higher...
Gearwrench, Duralast impact & GP for the Win!!
Did you fall at 18:28 ? Thanks for the test btw. Enjoyed it
lol, it was that or catch the leg of the tripod. I laugh every time I play that part over.
The videos Clinet Graphics makes are important for anyone using tools because it guides you toward the toughest potential tools for your job. The Titan was pathetic for an impacted ratchet socket it was a joke
Great Video
Thanks buddy👍🏻
Can you test MATCO, CORNWELL & MAC TOOLS also?
So I don't have to worry about destroying my Motivx anytime soon. I love the spring loaded design.
Duralast wow for the price super value
18:27 😂😂 too much torque great vid 👍🏼
I’d HATE to be this guys tool dealer 😂😂😂🙏 great videos!!!!!
Years ago 1978 I purchased a Proto 5/8” universal spark plug deep socket I used it once and cracked the U-joint it floated around the box until three years ago I found it and sent it back to Stanley/Proto and they swapped it for a common proto 5/8 short socket.
But u-joint docket are the weakest and the if they are defective they may not make one use.
Back in the day, I had some S-K sockets - 3/8" set (prize for top apprentice) and a set of imperial flex (built in universal) sockets - biggest mistake of my tool life!
Split a brand new 9/16th just putting it on the bolt - didn't get a chance to actually apply torque. Broke 3 of the flex sockets with moderate load on the short ratchet supplied - and at the time I wasn't a big lad.
Later they became S-K Wayne - but still wouldn't recommend them to a bicycle mechanic...
Thank you for doing this! Have to say I look forward to each of these videos as I need multiple sets of the same tool for work and work at home. Knowing that there are good options that take the abuse for significantly less than Snapon is a great thing. Now is there any way you can test out the new Ingersoll rand Hans tools? Been dying to see how these perform.. just weary of pulling the trigger and ordering them.
What I can tell you is that Ingersoll Rand partnered with Alltrade Tools for a lot of the hand tool lineup.
Your channel is very nice I just love all your videos I am from brasil thanks for your job.
Best videos ever. Chris squad here!!!
Tested impact sockets?. I would love to see swedish momentum vs snapon.
Thank you for making this awesome video.
No problem this was a fun video to make. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I was planning on buying some swivel adapters and this video gave me a good idea on what to buy.
The most interesting test & good highlight for inspection, thumb like
Nice video! Wish you had Sunex and Astro tools in the mix.
Beware of some of the craftsman universals. The newer ones I'm not sure about. But the ones sold 10 years ago have a pin that is knurled in the middle so if the pin breaks it can fall out. This might not be a problem for most places you'll be using one. However the spark plug universal uses this same design. If that pin snaps and it's down a spark plug tube, you can guess where that metal pin is likely to end up.
just keep them coming thanks
That reminds me I need to break some more tools soon😉
Thanks for going through the effort to break these and make a video about this although it does look like you were enjoying yourself haha
Great video. Would like to see the Husky pinless impact swivel (Home Depot).
Love tests. Shows you what stuff is really made of!
I've got several older chrome 1/2" and one remaining 3/8" . Those are all but obsolete. I've got the
Pittsburgh Professional set , I use the 3/8" with low profile Sunex 3/8" drive metric sockets .
Cool I asked about this video and the 1/2 to 3/8 reducers thank cg
Heck yah man! Let the collection begin.
Love your videos. Helped me make several purchases. Is there any way you could test the SK FLEXZONE sockets?
I don’t have any of the SK FlexZone sockets, sorry. Interesting concept, but I personally haven’t destroyed too many impact sockets that it would make sense for me to purchase and test them.
@@ClientGraphics no problem, I'll pick one up and a snapoff and give them a test against the bulldozer.
Great video even though Kobalt was toward the bottom it stayed in the mid line of specs and was not th bottom 3 with a big diff in spec
I don’t support craftsman anymore (just for the record) but the reason the craftsman test was so hard to keep from (bending) is because you had it rotated 90 deg. from the rest of the sockets causing it to rotate forward under your loading
I wonder who makes the best Locking flex head ratchet wrench...
Interesting I'm kind of surprised with the Impact results! but fun none the less!
Definitely fun, the GP was impressive. Appreciate you watching and commenting👌🏻
@@ClientGraphics appreciate you doing this and staying safe I was worried you were going to get smoked by those sockets blowing apart lol
Great rest! Now I'm going to put a heart next to it. ❤️
I have a ? 4 U...in the beginning when u held them to show them with no slack....a swivel joint is made to swivel...whats the point of the stiffness / play???
Ideally you would want the u-joint to hold a socket in whatever angle you need and move only when you need it to fit on the fastener once past all obstacles and bends. After repeated use they typically loosen/wear and a socket just flops on the u-joint. Cheaper brands are notorious for being floppy people will wrap electrical tape on the joint to help hold it.
Question about the failure of the Tekton, you said the connecting link sheared but was there any deformation in the drive ears, is it possible that it could be rebuilt?
You did not test the Tekton pinless impact ready, though you did test at least one other ir.
Have you considered adding Klutch from Northern Tools for these types of videos?
I have buts it’s a 2.25 hour round-trip drive and I have only be to Northern Tools once. If it were closer I totally would be there more.
Wait. If we're supposed to keep them straight to avoid flexing, then WTF are we buying them for?
I like the torque curve chart
Do you recommend using these universal joints to torque wrench certain bolts that can’t be reached ? Or should torque really be applied at the right angle with the torque wrench ?
Problem is too many variables. Meaning that depends on angle at turn, exact torque, and deflection. I really don't mind a loose swivel tho for a non pro. Good video tho
I wonder how many of these were made in the same factory
The Duralast and Husky are both Apex Tools so I imagine these two would be a good starting point for being made in a similar place.
Duralast tools were made by great neck .now its it's made by Stanley and gear wrench
I noticed the other day all my tools are made in Tawain.
@@ChunkyMonkaayyy Better than China >:)
The whole point of a swivel is the angle in which it can turn. Which is why Snap-on always wins. You’re never supposed to put a breaker bar on these.
Why didnt you just put the swivels directly into the adapter for the first test?
Would have been awesome to see price per torque failure.
So motivx seems to b the winner overall cause of spring action and less slop?
Hi there nice info! I'm searching for u-joint, as in driveline, comparisons. Do you know anyone who has compared wear, load abilities, and resistance to operational grime with OEM new u-joints and a few popular aftermarket brands too? Like Moog to Spicer to Toyota to GM, etc.
I am especially interested in tests between the same size of competitive brands of both sealed and re-greaseable universal joints. Thanks!
I tried jobsmart but they always let me down on Sunday evenings when I was trying to get my trucks on the road. Jobsmart for me was Junk lol.
Tip: if you have a herd time putting your floppy u joint on a bolt you can’t reach, wrap the joint with some tape a couple times
What's the point of the swivel if you're meant to keep it straight?
What if I need to take out a spark plug on an angle or around a corner? What should I be using?
If you do this type of testing again might want to use some short pcs of pipe to keep them from flexing to much
I am disappointed about Tekton i am on the market for flex socket set impact end chrome great job 👏 😊
The motivex used to be marketed by the Taiwanese as the Triangle brand.
I'd love to see you add Icon universals in your tests.
It would be nice if you put an aprox price on the chart. at the end. I think we all are looking for value over the very best. I know there are always sales and what not but what you paid is good information.
Some of the items came in sets of 3 vs others as single while some were apart of a larger complete tool set. A few like the JobSmart were on clearance or the Harbor Freight I used a 30% off coupon so the pricing was all over the board and didn’t make sense to calculate on this one.
Perhaps useful to also show a line with the price in the graph with the breaking moments. Does that line go linearly with the force shown?
But an interesting test anyway, and gives a good indication of the quality. Thanks. Greetings from Holland, Ferry
should be using a breaker bar on the destruction, just gonna break a wrench or wear it out
JST is probably pulling his hair in anger 😂😂😂😂
You gotta follow up with all impact
Testing them to failure is cool but I would have been more interested in their usability. Like bend them 35° and see which ones transmit torque and which ones tend to "fold into themselves"
I have a vintage k-d tool 1/2" ujoint I picked up from a socket set. Man it's beefy.
I think the snapon is for sure the best for chrome/hand tool applications. It held up great, it’s made in the USA, and it would be more consistent with the quality standards of snapon to repeat that test and get the same, or similar results. Don’t think the same could be said for evercraft, dewalt, or stanley being that they’re made in Taiwan/China. As for impact swivels, out of the ones you tested, obviously grey pneumatic is the best, but I would like to see one comparing snapon, dewalt, evercraft, and basically all of the other great performers impact versions.
I wish you would of tested the hart universal joint
Tekton really let me down
Now the follow on video should be how the warranty process goes.