Rolex Waitlists? You should rather ask your Dealer for a DISCOUNT!

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  • Many Rolex models can already be purchased again at a significant discount. Therefore, if the Rolex dealer calls and offers you a Rolex, you should not necessarily say "yes" immediately. Watch this video to find out more.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:56 #1 Explorer 36mm
    2:31 #2 Submariner Yellow Gold
    4:01 #3 Day-Date 36/40mm
    5:27 #4 Daytona
    7:30 #5 Yacht-Master 42mm
    8:54 #6 GMT-Master II
    10:21 Outro

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  • @jaygagnaire4841
    @jaygagnaire4841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +329

    As a watch enthusiast, I went from wanting a Rolex as my Grail watch to giving up completely. It's just not worth it. I went to 3 ADs, always the same story: waitlist only, not available, no negotiating, having to buy jewelry to "boost up" the list, sometimes being treated like dirt, borderline being laughed at.
    That changed the day I went to Omega: Tried on several pieces, All available except for some limited editions, while having a coffee, and being treated with the respect a customer willing to spend thousands is due!
    I have since got 2 Omegas for the price of 1 Rolex.
    Couldn't be happier!

    • @mistermilgauss
      @mistermilgauss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      You will always be hunted by…what if…

    • @supersonique001
      @supersonique001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Good for you, you did not get taken by scum jewelers and rolex itself! Bravo!

    • @mishison85
      @mishison85 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Same story with me, and to get on the wait list I need a history with Rolex! It’s like buying a Ferrari, instead Rolex is comparable to a Jaguar at best

    • @621jihoonkim
      @621jihoonkim 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      grey market ppl bought them all. and they had deal behind the scene

    • @fj7509
      @fj7509 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup. Got the call for my SS Sub after a 1 week wait. Spoke to the owner instead of the SA, explained when I wanted it by, and she called me a few days later. Paid $9,900 after tax. So happy to get it before it went over $10,000. Get the watch you want and pay the premium or you'll lose sleep over "what if." @@mistermilgauss

  • @radidoc4832
    @radidoc4832 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    Short summary: If you have a lot of money, you can get those 30K Rolex a little below retail but for everyone else who wants a steel Rolex around 10k, no luck!

    • @GM-ii8gs
      @GM-ii8gs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep, thought the same and this has been the situation for about 6 months now, the WoS CEO said in the quarterly investor call last week Rolex unexpectedly sent a lot more steel though, so perhaps they are shifting production from gold and semi to steel to keep volume and sales up.

  • @mannytafuerte
    @mannytafuerte 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

    Why put the Pepsi on the thumbnail if its not available at or under retail? Bait-clicking with thumbnails ruins your credibility.

    • @Rosscotron
      @Rosscotron 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Brah is savage

    • @danielsoto_toronto
      @danielsoto_toronto 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Clickbait also works, the top channels use it the most

    • @vika0194
      @vika0194 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@danielsoto_toronto It doesn't work. Only leads to people clicking to leave a dislike and comment without watching.

    • @jrgb9945
      @jrgb9945 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      You sound a little vaccinated

    • @jlpower
      @jlpower 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Have you had a look around TH-cam lately? I can’t remember the last thumbnail I saw that wasn’t clickbait.

  • @CaptCanuck4444
    @CaptCanuck4444 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    I know firsthand that most Rolex dealers are still trying to pretend like everything is scarce when in fact it isn't. The appeal of Rolex watches for many is the perceived exclusivity, and as soon as they are more freely available then many people will lose interest. Expect the hoarding and games to continue.

    • @robertposteschild2353
      @robertposteschild2353 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Just keep being patient and avoid buying. As consumers, we need to exercise our biggest power - the power to walk away. Let the dealers and flippers eat it.

    • @CaptCanuck4444
      @CaptCanuck4444 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertposteschild2353 💯 agree

    • @bigbodykarate6403
      @bigbodykarate6403 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      the hoarding is real i literally got into a fist fight with my own uncle ( he owns a watch store not saying which but its in southern California ) i went to 2 Rolex Ads just looking for a Explorer nothing to crazy and got turned away so i thought F it ill ask my uncle to sell me one and ill get a discount ( didnt wana lean on family initially as the explorer is my dream gada watch ) and MY UNCLE PULLED THE SAME SHIT , to make matters worse my cousin laughed and showed me they had 7 explorers just sitting in storage and they had 2 in the display case and guess how many people were on the waitlist JUST FKN 3 . now I'm banned from most of my family get together cuz i knocked out my uncle ( i couldn't control myself the fact my own uncle/godfather would pull this kind of crap on me broke me ) . ended up buying a Sinn 556A Rs instead . Fk Rolex and their BS games and ALL THE ADS and GREY DEALERS you guys have ruined a beautiful hobby and many dreams .

    • @ultimatedouchebag6760
      @ultimatedouchebag6760 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Spend your money on companies that cares about you. I end up buying a GS and a Cartier. I am not buying Rolex at all, they are watches for noobs.

    • @GM-ii8gs
      @GM-ii8gs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bigbodykarate6403 Wow, family! is your uncle gray or AD?

  • @Mr_Paw_revised
    @Mr_Paw_revised 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hey Jenni, I checked all the comments so far and most of them are not positive. I’m not standing here with a torch and a pitchfork, but I also found this video unnecessary and the thumbnail somewhat clickbaity.
    Ask yourself if a person, that can afford a €40k-€50k watch, needs to be informed with a YT video, that the prices are dropping a bit?
    I know Rolex is Your favorite brand. There is nothing wrong with that. I know You were able to obtain few models throughout the years. I know You are very engaged with this whole Rolex situation and trying to share information and insight, whenever You can. I also realize, that You, as a content creator, don’t want to badmouth or criticize the brand, that You like the most. I realize that You don’t want to burn any bridges. But, telling people, that they should dare to look into a €50k watch, if they can’t buy the €15k one is not doing You or Rolex any favors.
    I like Your reviews and Q&As.
    I hope for Your channel to grow. Thanks for all Your work and don’t get discouraged with minor setbacks 👍🏻

  • @jaegermeister1968
    @jaegermeister1968 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    In recent years there has been a huge hype about Rolex and prices have risen to grotesque heights. The countless TH-camrs and self-proclaimed watch experts who produced some ridiculous Rolex video or blog every day for clicks and likes were also to blame. Now the whole thing is put into perspective. I bought a Submariner with percentages in 2009, but that time won't come back. The fact is, you won't be able to simply pick up a Rolex from a concessionaire in the next few years. But the fact that all the pure speculators are now losing money makes me very happy.

  • @doyouwanttogivemelekiss3097
    @doyouwanttogivemelekiss3097 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Let's face it: the pandemic bubble was never going to be sustainable anyway. Better to have a drastic price/supply correction today than an implosion tomorrow. Also, if you bought a watch only to flip it, you were buying it for the wrong reasons anyway, IMHO.

  • @GlobBucket
    @GlobBucket หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thought of having to grovel to an AD in order to become "allowed" to pay anywhere between £12-£16k for a basic steel Rolex, when I could walk straight into an Omega boutique and buy an Aqua Terra Worldtimer for like £9k, just blows my head off. You could buy a new JLC Reverso Duoface Moonphase for the same as you'd pay for a pre-owned GMT. Rolex remains the "everyone look at me" type of watch. It's the watch brand that appeals to the egotistical and the flamboyant. I used to want a Rolex, maybe about 8 years ago. It was the same then as it is today. You couldn't just walk in and buy whatever you wanted. The fact people buy Rolex watches just to leave them for years in a safe to try to make a few grand on them, just goes to show how preposterous this has all become.

  • @Woto4
    @Woto4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    TL;DR : gold watches are now lower than retail. Steel watches still more expensive

  • @IAimTo-Misbehave
    @IAimTo-Misbehave 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this snapshot. Helpful information. Keep us posted!

  • @talegunrdav
    @talegunrdav 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice to see you again Jenni thanks for the information

  • @CHWatches
    @CHWatches 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've not personally tried to buy a Rolex from an AD but knowing how it goes for others makes me uninterested.

  • @FatherSonWatchTalk
    @FatherSonWatchTalk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great information! Thank you.

  • @brandonchism6960
    @brandonchism6960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the reupload.... solid information!!!!

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    TBH, Rolex hasn't increased their prices that much. The "white walker" I bought 3 years ago is only some 5% more than what I bought it for. Meanwhile in the same time, most of the world has gone up like 20% in inflation.

  • @Danomite99
    @Danomite99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The best part regarding Rolex grey market pricing being lower; is the lack of leverage AD’s have when looking to buy.
    Waitlists are one thing, but expecting you spend money on other timepieces prior to getting the watch you want, are over for the time being.

    • @aleximd9244
      @aleximd9244 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Buying something else is horsesheit. You will be fooled only

    • @Danomite99
      @Danomite99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True to that.

    • @Mr.Drewski
      @Mr.Drewski 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Having to buy so many pieces that you don’t want that you cover the difference between retail and resale smdh 😂

  • @kofiofosu9051
    @kofiofosu9051 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It’s true. My local AD offered me an explorer 2 today. Unfortunately, my personal economy today will not permit it.

  • @cdeaker
    @cdeaker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I presume this is the “Media Found” version of the previous video 😉

    • @ahha6304
      @ahha6304 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah I was thinking I saw this vid before but not sure, thank you

    • @user-iv9mh3no8l
      @user-iv9mh3no8l 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was having a deja vu moment too...@@ahha6304

  • @William-0415
    @William-0415 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Love that the background music is softer. Well done.

  • @alfieakaronaldog
    @alfieakaronaldog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I’m still waiting for a No Date Submariner, and not sure I will ever get a Steel Daytona, so forgive me if I call BS.
    I could have had one of the non waitlist precious metal ones ages ago 🙄

  • @AndreaDoesYoga
    @AndreaDoesYoga 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting perspective, it's all about smart shopping! 💡👍

  • @user-dw3mb5qu1j
    @user-dw3mb5qu1j 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not in Australia. The sales people here don't get commissions on Rolexes. This forces them to sell other brands in order to establish a "Purchase history" then they consider you for a Rolex. Some unpopular Rolex models can be purchased immediately or with minimum wait, but any of the more popular models will require a purchase history with that particular boutique. They will dangle the carrot with no promises. It's basically blackmail.

  • @Cmdtheartist
    @Cmdtheartist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good recovery, Jenni!

  • @carbondragon
    @carbondragon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Isn't this like buying a Lamborghini because the market is depressed and it only costs $50000? I'm really interested, how many viewers have the money to buy the gold ones discussed here?

    • @bertholdbach4959
      @bertholdbach4959 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I would argue, not many.

    • @JustMeTalking
      @JustMeTalking 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I bought a Rolex GMT Master 2 "Rootbeer" for 4% over RRP ... but no way am I buying full gold.
      I'd rather buy other watches with the budget

  • @razvanyke
    @razvanyke 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video, Jenni ! I liked it

  • @Islandchris242
    @Islandchris242 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Finally all you “investors” will hit the road and leave the watch market to us true enthusiasts

  • @kmotch
    @kmotch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bypassed the AD n bought an unworn white walker last weekend, cost a few grand more but it’s worth it to keep my dignity and avoid the grovelling many people have to subject themselves too.

  • @mortekaieve4729
    @mortekaieve4729 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Was over at Hyde Park the other day which just merged with WatchBox so they have certified pre-owned Rolex in their main store right next to the Rolex Boutique. Such a different vibe going from the boutique over into the main watch store. Rolex employees in the boutiques alone make me not want to buy one. Also the certified pre-owned are significantly better on price and in pretty good shape with 2 year warranty. Honestly though I'd just buy off the grey market if I were to pick up a Rolex of any type. There are other watches on my list waaaay above Rolex after the wait list BS, uppity boutique workers, etc. Rolex dropped way down on my to-buy list after all that.

  • @GuyVanderAa
    @GuyVanderAa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Interesting info. Great video Jenni!
    Even if they have dropped or available at retail they are however still very expensive no? I mean there’s no correction for the price increase. Not that I expected that but it puts this in perspective imo 😎😅

  • @mr.bluenotedoobop
    @mr.bluenotedoobop 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Just frustrating, I could have bought a no date submariner for - $8,500 new from a dealer. I said I was going to wait a little and not only has the price shot up but now I have to be on a list. Grey market is still too high. At this point, I've been looking at Cartier a lot more, plus I can order it online directly instead of dealing with a dealer.

    • @loo9407
      @loo9407 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same I went Cartier Santos instead 😂

    • @fj7509
      @fj7509 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was the opposite for me hahahaha.
      Went into the dealer a few days ago and got a plain, black ceramic Submariner. No purchase history or anything.

    • @GM-ii8gs
      @GM-ii8gs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@fj7509 Which country?

    • @GM-ii8gs
      @GM-ii8gs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah Cartier annual sales are up, get the feeling lots of folks looking for just a nice swiss watch and can't get a Rolex at AD are going to Cartier over Omega, especially female buyers, helps that Cartier has a lower average order value.

    • @fj7509
      @fj7509 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Metro Atlanta Area@@GM-ii8gs

  • @ludgerbusse5130
    @ludgerbusse5130 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Woher bekomme ich Listenpreise von Patek Philippe und Audemars Piguet?

  • @markbannister8031
    @markbannister8031 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Jenni, I have started to see some steel references come down to sensible prices - explore, explorer ii, datejust 126300. But until steel are retail or close I still think a lot of dealers are deluding themselves. Great video as always.

  • @mrthinkpositive-ty9hl
    @mrthinkpositive-ty9hl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’d love to purchase a Patek Nautilus. Do you think the prices will ever come down? Double retail is crazy!

    • @dannym5468
      @dannym5468 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you think about it, anything above retail is ridiculous. $40-$50k for a watch is still a lot. Retail price is what Patel thought it's worth

  • @mishison85
    @mishison85 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Guys it’s shocking how in 2016 you could have your pick of the lot, any Rolex was available…. Now the AD is telling me I need to be on a wait list for an OP!! And even then, I can only get on if I have a history! Am I buying a Rolex or Patek!! Rolex need to stay in their lane and stop pretending to be something they’re not

    • @powerrangers16712
      @powerrangers16712 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Back in 2016, not only OP was available, can even got it at discount

  • @702million7
    @702million7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rolex are very nice everyday watches. But I gave up. I am so happy that I did. I paid twice as much and bought a different Swiss timepiece that I love. I have barely taken it off over the last 3 weeks. Plus it's a bit more stealth and not many people would know it's an expensive bit of kit!

  • @watchmaker85
    @watchmaker85 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Used precious metal watches. Thanks for really crunching the numbers.

  • @jonathanturner4220
    @jonathanturner4220 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I like Rolex too. I just dont want to spend 10 to 20 grand for a SS sub..

  • @muds1123
    @muds1123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is just heading back to pre-pandemic. You won’t get Daytona, Sub colour, OP celebration, GMT Pepsi & Skydweller steels at Retail unless you are a very valued customer with history. Everything else is very achievable. Rolex will always be the watch of choice for the aspirational. Their precious business will get hit because of the whole dealer experience and having nothing to sell when people wanted them. They are the opposite of Omega who are very good with their buyers but watches aren’t as desirable and the brand doesn’t have the same status.

  • @johnny_bravo9990
    @johnny_bravo9990 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Last one is my favourite ❤

  • @r1pperuk
    @r1pperuk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I always wanted a sub. Now im feeling an Oris 400 is more me! Just gotta wait for a configuration I like!

    • @nathanmagnuson2589
      @nathanmagnuson2589 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm with the comment above--save up for one that you like. It will save you money in the long run.

    • @mijnbuisje
      @mijnbuisje 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Forget about the sub it's not worth the hassle. So many other brands which offer more bang for the buck and are readily available.

    • @user-pn3im5sm7k
      @user-pn3im5sm7k 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mjk4554Good advice sir, feel the same way

    • @fj7509
      @fj7509 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      +1 to the older gentleman. Save up and get the Sub. Anyone saying it's not worth the hassle has never owned one. It's the most perfect fit on any wrist imaginable.@@mjk4554

    • @Mr_Paw_revised
      @Mr_Paw_revised 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If You don’t care about the status symbol, buy the Oris. It is a better tool watch. The movement is superior, it looks amazing (I love the blue dial black bezel) and You’ll spend a quarter of a Submariner price. If You want a very expensive dive watch, with a ton of legacy, from a brand with historical significance, think about Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Or cheaper Omega Planet Ocean.

  • @zilvinasstasys9825
    @zilvinasstasys9825 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just bought pagani design . Brilliant

  • @aleximd9244
    @aleximd9244 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video which sooths our soul. Hugs for you pretty lady

  • @bobfeller604
    @bobfeller604 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rolex didn't act this way 20 years ago, I don't know why they changed.

  • @SahanaraKhatun-cs2sk
    @SahanaraKhatun-cs2sk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like rolex watch ...tnx for sharing

  • @x19man1
    @x19man1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was wondering what the Rolex certified pre-owned prices were for these watches ?

    • @jakewoolley9533
      @jakewoolley9533 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They’re more expensive than retail and the 2nd hand market, the certified pre owned prices are massively overpriced

    • @user-km1cf1gs8x
      @user-km1cf1gs8x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like getting Fired , Robbed , Divorced and kicked in the Crotch all in the same day .
      CPO is just another way to screw the gullible few ☝️

    • @dunnybrush
      @dunnybrush 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The market dynamics for Rolex are bizarre!

    • @hugohernandez3651
      @hugohernandez3651 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's ridiculous expensive.

  • @gregschulte2953
    @gregschulte2953 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best time to buy Rolex is the best time to buy any luxury goods. That’s during economic downturns. Myself along w/a few friends have bought subs, gmt’s & Daytona’s at 20-40% below retail. If you look closely, you will see the ebbs and flows of the market. Just be patient and be ready to buy.

  • @yrnswipe
    @yrnswipe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PLUG! ask your dealer for THE PLUG 😂

  • @fmalik7736
    @fmalik7736 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jenni first thing is that the Rolex watches for the flippers are steel watches like Submarines,Daytonas , GMTs , 41 Perpetual especially green blue, Motif and Day just 41 blue ,green and Wimbledon are not available at all nor they will put you on the waiting list worldwide rest of the Rolex watches were not flippers watches but got attention for the new flippers but now it have died down

  • @jeanforichon
    @jeanforichon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For example the Tudor Pélagos Titanium is an amazing watch, mine has taken 27 sec in 3 months…. You cannot go wrong with it!

  • @johnprosser5035
    @johnprosser5035 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was in my AD and they had all the full gold models in the window and for sale there and then....

  • @petemorbius3936
    @petemorbius3936 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    116520 black...good buy?

  • @bigmacdaddy1234
    @bigmacdaddy1234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My AD laughed at me when I told that waitlists are dead and I want a discount. He told me 'ain't gonna happen anytime soon'.

  • @skyworks1621
    @skyworks1621 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You have to have good finances to put out around 35 k for a non daily driver gold watch. This are all models you add to your collection as second or third watch.

  • @Swiss_Army_Knife1780
    @Swiss_Army_Knife1780 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When will you TH-cam reviewers learn that the ⌚ does not begin and end with Rolex?
    Time to celebrate for overpriced and underdeveloped timepieces that were subject to an artificial supply shortage?
    As said by many comments, there are great options elsewhere.
    Quite frankly, Rolex makes a great ⌚ but not at MSRP and certainly not above MSRP.
    With or without waitlists, however, Glashütte Original, Zenith, Grand Seiko, and Jaeger-LeCoultre will receive my patronage well before Rolex.
    I can only speak dor myself when I say that I cannot drink the Kool-Aid from Geneva.

  • @masterwatch
    @masterwatch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Like many others we knew waitlists would end and I expect prices to even fall below retail with discounts for some models.

  • @Walem_B
    @Walem_B 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    kept a gmt and 22" airking, and traded a 2tone DJ41 for a rose gold dlc grande Reverso 976 + 5k. which is crazy. glad I didn't keep it

  • @sagaciousid
    @sagaciousid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wanted a submariner, then an oyster perpetual so badly back in 2018. Now, I only like the day date or yacht master but not willing to pay 10s of thousands for Rolexes. I would guess many ppl feel just like me. We prefer other watches now.

  • @thetattedpharmacist3215
    @thetattedpharmacist3215 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Exchange rate sucks! I’m in Australia so these €30k and €40k watches are actually nearer $50 and $60k for me😢

  • @Milofchg
    @Milofchg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Price increases can be also due to a slow Asian market and a vacant Russian market.

  • @RAJohnson713
    @RAJohnson713 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 2 tone explorer would be really cool if it was 40mm

  • @jamessmith-on3jf
    @jamessmith-on3jf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I bought my first Rolex 10 years ago from the AD, back then I could have saved 15-20% buying form the grey market had I done so I would have constantly doubted its authenticity and it would also have caused me anxiety taking it to Rolex for a service. I think these are serious concerns for all these people who have bought watches from the grey market. How would someone prove to the grey dealer several years later that the watch which has been verified super fake hasn't been switched by the buyer.
    All my watches were bought by me from the AD.

  • @Monami262
    @Monami262 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So still no chance for destro gmt and panda daytona.

  • @elrudo280
    @elrudo280 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What website are you on? Thanks 😊

  • @RaviSingh-ph2uw
    @RaviSingh-ph2uw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think many people are done with Rolexes games where you can’t buy the watch model you want, you have to be put on a waitlist which is basically a way for them to discriminate against you and tell you you can’t buy the premium models and if you’re “lucky” they offer you a lesser model.
    Treating customers this way has turned many people away so for my money if I was in the market, I would just buy an Omega of my choosing instead.

  • @Harpreet06
    @Harpreet06 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do you think the explorer 40 will go under retail soon?

    • @BufanMuayThai
      @BufanMuayThai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Absolutely. You can’t trade it to a grey dealer for a profit anymore.

    • @Harpreet06
      @Harpreet06 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BufanMuayThai I'll just wait to get it grey then. Been on the list for 6 months and still not got the call

    • @BufanMuayThai
      @BufanMuayThai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Harpreet06 Don’t know where you’re located, but, your AD is pulling your leg. Haven’t asked for an explorer 40 but turned on down back in December. Picked up my Polar EX2 and a 126515LN during December.
      This was in mainland Europe. Haven’t purchased any jewellery or other Watch brands from this AD I use now.

    • @Harpreet06
      @Harpreet06 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BufanMuayThai Yeah they definitely are, I'm in the Uk and went there last month again, they even had the explorer 40 on display and were putting some colour stick on the tag. He let me try it on but I couldn't buy it. Seemed like he wanted to keep talking to me though and gave me another one of his cards.
      How much would you say a purchase history is worth? I've seen some Explorer 40's sell for around retail now from grey dealers, would it be worth paying a hundred or 2 more to get an AD purchase history?

  • @lovvyr
    @lovvyr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went to the Rolex store at Geneva last week. I asked foe the Submariner dual tone blue and gold, and the Submariner steel black dial. Neither of them was available. They offered me used watches at a higher price than the new ones. So, NO, in a nutshell, still mostly on a waitlist

    • @WATCHVICE
      @WATCHVICE 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The waitlist is part of the strategy. They have those watches in stock but they won’t sell you directly. They will put you on a waitlist to force a decision as soon as you get the call.
      On the other hand steel and gold submariners are available below retail price already on the grey market which means - no waitlists + the amount of people who are willing to get themselves waitlisted to get a watch more expensive than on the grey market will go down drastically

  • @dimitrianid2417
    @dimitrianid2417 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New Unworn Submariner Date Yellow Gold 126618LB 2K under retail price?? Where do I sign?

  • @j5daniel182
    @j5daniel182 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    people keep saying prices are on a free fall - but using that idiotic temporary price spike in early 2022 as the starting point. There's always gonna be a premium for the Pepsi and Daytonas because Rolex is still keeping their production less than the normal black Submariner. There's no way you can get them for retail unless you buy other stuff or you can make them believe that you will be buying future stuff regularly.

  • @vdan2879
    @vdan2879 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wait lists are dead cos they were FAKE

  • @phantomphotography7392
    @phantomphotography7392 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rolex does make some beautiful watches but I am not a fan of waitlists and the price points for what you are actually getting.

  • @stevelauda5435
    @stevelauda5435 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer the white metal ones.

  • @stephenw1799
    @stephenw1799 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Offical dealers don't discount any swiss branded watches in my country. I find prices are fixed in the EU. I have bought well below retail from non official retailers and over next couple of years i can see them picking up more Rolex and will pass on the discounts where offical dealers wont.

  • @JohnDoe-so9oy
    @JohnDoe-so9oy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The money is not the problem for me but the fact they playing scammy games that is a big turn off for me from buying atm, and I don’t buy from stinky grey market literally their booths smell not classy like the botiques AD in the malls. And you literally never know when they change parts and sell you one that’s been molested. I can wait till it’s available in the AD stores again.

  • @IsmaelMartinezPR
    @IsmaelMartinezPR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have to tell you that the tittle is a bit "click baity". The prices are one thing but in general, availability remains scarce of the popular models. I am in the market, but I am no about to pay more than retail for a less than premium experience. I want to buy from the AD, get my expresso, be pampered and treated like a customer. Not buy from a phone or a web page for more money and questionable warranty. If the grey market dropped 20-30% under AD, maybe, but not more for a used piece.

    • @alfieakaronaldog
      @alfieakaronaldog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More than a bit clickbaity lol

  • @worldoflies8481
    @worldoflies8481 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Think you don’t understand retailers are not allowed to give discounts as they will lose franchise rights with Rolex.

  • @velvetjones1856
    @velvetjones1856 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There continues to be an acute shortage of the popular tool watches at Rolex. The dealers only get the simple watches they can't see as easily. Those are the discountable watches but not anything I want.

  • @jamesblonde2271
    @jamesblonde2271 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    watching a live stream last night they were very umpleasant, said you had given up, well, happy new year and knickers to those clowns

  • @chillvill1646
    @chillvill1646 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Authorized Rolex AD isn't giving a discount ever.... and the models selling on the grey that are still fetching a premium hes gonna horde........yes still......but whos counting?

  • @spirro-eg1yl
    @spirro-eg1yl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just like COVID, the watch (particularly Rolex) and auto markets are making us question our lifestyle and expectations. I feel like a fool for initially buying into the hype.

  • @watcheskick
    @watcheskick 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just buy what u like as long as u can find the best deal for it.

  • @Chris-mh3vf
    @Chris-mh3vf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When the YM gets down to 5k I might buy one

  • @shonz88
    @shonz88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the movie “Uncut Gems”, most of the Rolex’s sold by jewelry dealers were high quality fakes…………

  • @drjoei
    @drjoei 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a spend history and no Profesional model, I keep asking my AD fir a GMT , a SM, something, but he keeps acting like it will be impossible and I have to wait. I've been waiting 2-3 years. It's a joke.

  • @lazyreuvin
    @lazyreuvin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So the Rolex's I should be able to afford at retail are still overpriced, but the Rolex's which are out of my budget are "a great deal". Oh the irony...

  • @alfieakaronaldog
    @alfieakaronaldog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How are Omega waitlist doing these days?
    I hear Omega owned boutiques in central London are promising wait list pieces if you buy a couple of shop window ones at list.
    Tut Tut, naughty Omega 🤫🙄

    • @BufanMuayThai
      @BufanMuayThai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depend on what you want..? If you want a Snoopy, good luck.

    • @alfieakaronaldog
      @alfieakaronaldog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BufanMuayThai Exactly that.
      You will not get one from an independent AD if Omega are selling them all through their own boutiques after you pay list for a couple of normally highly discountable pieces.
      All those loyal Omega customers outside of London being strung along and kicked in the teeth.
      Imagine if Rolex did that 😂

    • @BufanMuayThai
      @BufanMuayThai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@alfieakaronaldoggot mine from Omega. But the AD I don’t use anymore, because they are full of B.S and want to push jewellery, have received two since 2020 the Omega ambassador told me. So independent has received some. He then also told me they won’t receive anymore Snoopy’s.
      I haven’t purchase any Omega watches that can be discounted, so that wasn’t the case in my experience. Just as an example, I got the second Seaweed my Omega boutique received, so even that was then a watch people was on waitlist for. I have other Omegas, but regarding popularity, this is the ballpark, so no discount for sure at the time I purchased them.
      I was told candidates are evaluated by the boutique and who ever is responsible for Omega in the region or country. Purchase history wasn’t the main factor for me. I know of people with 10 times the amount of Omegas I have, who hasn’t been allocated a Snoopy. Coolest watch ever made…

  • @Runner862
    @Runner862 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your missing somethin. The two tone explorer and the blue / gold sub are unpopular watches. Nod a good comparison.

  • @bertholdbach4959
    @bertholdbach4959 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, only the most expensive ones that no one wants to beginn with? Maybe except the Daytona.

  • @gabillionaire
    @gabillionaire 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Let's just leave Rolexes to people who have money and no knowledge on watches, while we enjoy more amazing pieces from other brands.

    • @muds1123
      @muds1123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Sound bitter

    • @gabillionaire
      @gabillionaire 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you'll understand when you explore deeper down the rabbit hole@@muds1123

    • @andrejensen7837
      @andrejensen7837 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@muds1123 If you look at the charts and bougth at that price in 2022 for investment, I wouldn't be bitter I would be a fool.

    • @AwoLXIIApaK
      @AwoLXIIApaK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Taste sweet

    • @GG-gk7jn
      @GG-gk7jn หลายเดือนก่อน

      Out of subject…. Every watch collectors will have a Rolex

  • @karlgutjahr2407
    @karlgutjahr2407 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gen z are not old enough yet. Just wait. When they get older they will want them. That’s what happened to me. Once I was financially stable and made a good salary I became interested in the finer things in life.

  • @cdp7625
    @cdp7625 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry but this is quite an inaccurate title, at least for the entire US market. I've been on a list at 3 ADs in NYC that I have history with and past Rolex purchases; for an Exp II and an OP 34 or 36. Also on a few lists out of state (I travel a lot for work). I keep in touch with the sales people I know at them and I don't get pushy or ever flip them. If you're pursuing any SS Rolex at a dealer, it's still quite rare and difficult to wait under 12 months minimum. Just because the gray market is dropping a bit to normal levels doesn't mean the AD's are now giving "discounts" or are flush with stock. They're not, they won't.

    • @shonz88
      @shonz88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rolex was never available at Costco before, and now it is. Maybe you’re just an unlikeable/annoying person, and they don’t want to sell to you……..

    • @cdp7625
      @cdp7625 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shonz88 Maybe you're just wrong... because Costco is NOT an authorized Rolex dealer. As I said, I've purchased 2 new Rolexes from two different Rolex AD's, so I'm guessing it's not a likability issue. I like her YT page/feed, but let's be honest, the title is click bait and not accurate.

  • @jonathanmedhus8609
    @jonathanmedhus8609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got a call for a Sub from an APR 2020 request..... almost 4 years.

  • @REDREDStrawberry
    @REDREDStrawberry 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My TH-cam show uploaded 3Hours ago, but I watched this video last night which is almost 20hours ago?!

  • @suds782
    @suds782 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmm another rolex video .. an in love with JLC ultra thin and Polaris enamel dial watches

  • @Ryansrangereport
    @Ryansrangereport 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still 1-2 years for a Sub in my area.

  • @unnamedhero5111
    @unnamedhero5111 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i believe in it when see when SS Rolex will be available under retail but by now it is not happening....huh

  • @VB-3
    @VB-3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Precious metal has been accessible and discounted for awhile. This isn't exactly news.

  • @1973833
    @1973833 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great!But what can i do with that?I don’t wear any kind of gold….if they’re for free,i wouldn’t wear them.Give me some steel discounts.I’m not a Harlem pimp.

  • @user-do3rm1yu1p
    @user-do3rm1yu1p 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you can get 15% less on the grey market imagine the hit you’ll take when you want to sell it back to the dealer. Probably at least another 25%. Otherwise expose yourself to scamming if you try to sell it yourself and end up losing 100%.

  • @Islandchris242
    @Islandchris242 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s over lol, yea right. Go walk in and buy a gmt or ss Daytona. Not happening. We are getting close to where we were before the hype started around Covid. The watches you talk about were always available with discount from the AD

    • @BufanMuayThai
      @BufanMuayThai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So…. In December, from two different AD’s I have never purchased ANYTHING from before, I picked up an EX2 Polar and a 126515LN with two weeks in between. The Explorer I have been on the list for, for 4 month. The Daytona was on display, asked, and purchased it same day I asked. Since Xmas I have turned down two other watches I didn’t asked for. When I visited the one AD on the 21th of December, there was 9!!! DJ available in different configurations, some in 36 some in 41. You better believe the watches are coming back.

    • @Islandchris242
      @Islandchris242 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BufanMuayThai yes, the unpopular models will be readily available. You mentioned 2 that aren’t quite popular. So there’s no surprise that you got them easily. You new “watch enthusiasts” don’t know what it was like pre covid. All these model SAT in the windows and were available with a discount.
      I’m glad to see it happening. I miss the days of seeing full cases with most models being available as a walk-in

  • @granthardy7025
    @granthardy7025 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Itty Bitty Wrist Committee...Nice!