8 Amazing Watches That SUCK to actually own

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  • Yes you read that correctly! Even though we love our iconic watches, there's still room for improvement! So in this video, I'll guide you through our top 8 amazing watches that hold some really annoying surprise for you!
    Let me know which watch of yours is driving YOU crazy and why!
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    Jenni
    0:00 Intro
    0:24 Seagull 1963
    1:37 Tissot PRX 80
    2:42Timex Q ReIssue
    3:25 Omega x Swatch Moonswatch
    4:23 Seiko 5 Series
    5:05 Omega Speedster Moonwatch Professional
    6:02 Audemars Piguet Royal Oak
    7:01 Patek Philippe Nautilus
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  • @Franzino
    @Franzino 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +223

    The Omega Speedmaster Pro (Hesalite) is my daily watch… on a Nato Stap I never had any issues with winding the watch (you don’t have to pull the crown to wind it)…it’s super easy 😊

    • @travr6
      @travr6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Samw. Hesalite on nato

    • @adamcook576
      @adamcook576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      Agreed. This is a parody and presumably click bait material. Pathetic, truly. Imagine owning perhaps the single greatest all purpose watch (costing between $7,000 to $8,000) to complain about winding the watch every few days.

    • @MrGeirSteinar
      @MrGeirSteinar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Agree, wore it as a daily for ten years and never ever would I complain about winding it. It’s simply perfect 👍

    • @patricevialle
      @patricevialle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I actually enjoy winding my Speedmaster every morning, no reason to dislike it.

    • @enjoyradiosilence
      @enjoyradiosilence 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I love manually winding my watches, it’s a daily ritual

  • @LMNY1
    @LMNY1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Winding my Speedmaster is actually a nice morning ritual. Having a full wind makes me feel ready to start the day.

  • @christianmotos
    @christianmotos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    The Seagull ST19 is just a Swiss Venus 175 clone with additional jewels. Any watchmaker can work on it or if you don't want to spend servicing, just get a replacement ST19.

    • @user-zj8wv5bk3p
      @user-zj8wv5bk3p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You can work on it yourself with a yt video and some time and tools and skills, infact just buy a new one 😂😂

    • @fdfac
      @fdfac 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Seagull is crap with the cost of repair being more than the value.

    • @eh86055
      @eh86055 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@fdfac , well, that's inevitable with the cost of labour being what it is. In China, where most of Seagull's customers are, watchsmiths are still cheap enough to make servicing them worthwhile.

  • @kev-the-windsurfer.
    @kev-the-windsurfer. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    I've had a Speedy Pro for years, I have never found it difficult to wind and pop the crown to set the time......Yes, if it goes too long without being serviced the crown does seem to become a little stiff to wind, but I've never found it to be as bad as its made out here.....Get it serviced regularly but a reputable watch place and its always going to be great....I actually like manually hacking it to set the time, its part of the charm ..... Each to their own though..

    • @barorepor3079
      @barorepor3079 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      When mine was new, I thought the crown was defective. I went back to the dealer and he simply told me it was normal adding that I will get used to it. After 15 years, with regular services, it is still the same. So I think Jenni is indeed right: we Speedmaster lovers just got used to it.

    • @kev-the-windsurfer.
      @kev-the-windsurfer. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@barorepor3079 I might go into a dealer and have a look at a new Speedmaster and see if it feels different to mine, maybe there is some inconsistency, I do remember on the last service they replaced the crown and it became even eaiser to use.....go figure....I need to give it more wrist time though as I really like it...

    • @user-yr9rz4ni3t
      @user-yr9rz4ni3t 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For those in the market for a used Speedy the 'First Omega In Space' model is very easy to operate the crown. But I agree, I don't find the crown difficult to operate.

    • @highnrising
      @highnrising 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@barorepor3079 If you folks are fine with having to get your watch "regularly serviced," and having to pay for it, good for you.

    • @explorerjlc1743
      @explorerjlc1743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The new 3861 speedy is so much better and easier to wind.

  • @stevenmac6543
    @stevenmac6543 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love winding my speedy. The feel and sound of it is perfection. ❤

  • @svelinov
    @svelinov 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Jennie I follow you on YT and honestly this is the first time that someone say honestly flaws regarding owning certain watches.
    Most "experts" just claiming benefits and good sides...but majority is just marketing related nothing more.
    Bravo once more!!!

  • @MarcTheWatchman
    @MarcTheWatchman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Jenni, I love your work on this channel but I think you might have been misinformed on the Tissot PRX's Powermatic 80. It has two regulator screws on the balance that can be adjusted to improve timekeeping. It may be a bit more complicated than some other movements, but the watch doesn't necessarily have to go back to Tissot for this. I had this work done on Hamilton's version of the same movement by a good watchmaker and the accuracy level after having this regulation done was outstanding!

    • @peterdegelaen
      @peterdegelaen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Not only Jenni is misinformed, unfortunately. And what the "plastic" part is concerned (the pallet fork): what is "plastic"? True, the PRX Powermatic 80 movement does not have a classic pallet fork with rubies, but it is made of some synthetic material. The rubies, that are on a classic pallet fork, are also a synthetic material that, on top of that, are GLUED into the metal pallet fork. Is that better? GLUE in my watch?

    • @TechBitje
      @TechBitje 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I believe the part is made from Delrin (polymer). You could say it's a plastic but why should it be worse than metal? Both wear out eventually. Delrin does not need lubrication as far as I know, metal parts do.
      Pallet fork rubies are 'glued' with Shellac.

    • @90SecondWatch
      @90SecondWatch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Did I see on another TH-camrs video that you just have to remove the rotor in order to access the regulators screws? It's wild how the PRX is one of the most popular watches and there's so much wrong info about it out there.

    • @peterdegelaen
      @peterdegelaen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @ndWatch You don't even need to remove the rotor; you just have to move it aside. It's easier if you remove it, but not really necessary.
      And, it's not only about the PRX that this nonsense is going around. It's for everything that says Powermatic 80, just because they don't see the conventional regulator arm.

    • @90SecondWatch
      @90SecondWatch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@peterdegelaen Okay so that makes sense. I think for an entry level luxury watch, the PRX is probably one of the top 3 on the market. Just a great piece. I've got it in the blue dial audio and the blue panda chrono. Absolutely love both.
      In fact, I wish they'd make different dial colors on the gold. I'd grab one of those too.

  • @Zotrax1946
    @Zotrax1946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I don’t own a PRX, yet I do own a Gentleman, and for the last 3 years it is keeping near perfect time, for an automatic. It loses less than 5 seconds in a week. Lees than 20 seconds per month. I don’t know if this piece is the exception- yet that is my personal experience. It’s a beautiful, elegant, very well made and accurate timepiece.

    • @curtbrown7718
      @curtbrown7718 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Different movement in that it has no plastic parts like the movement found in the PRX.

    • @Zotrax1946
      @Zotrax1946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@curtbrown7718 the powermatic 80 silicium? What’s the “selecium”? I thought it was silicone, which is a sort of plastic. Am I wrong?

    • @curtbrown7718
      @curtbrown7718 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On the PRX, not the Gentleman. The PRX employs some plastic components. Thank you.@@Zotrax1946

    • @KezAH-GT
      @KezAH-GT หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a Tissot powermatic 80. Don’t use it often but every time I had it keeps great time, so I don’t see it as an issue.

  • @TruckeeDoggo
    @TruckeeDoggo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Apparently Swatch Group doesn’t actually service Tissot PRX movements, they just toss the movement and replace it with a new one. Pretty much anything below Longines is considered a disposable movement

    • @drdesign6886
      @drdesign6886 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Loads of expensive brands do this. It’s been pretty much proven to happen Tudor, Omega, Brietling, and even Rolex. It costs manufacturers a fraction of a full service cost for a brand new movement. Only reason some service them is many of their customers are brain dead and think their mechanical inanimate object has some kind of soul.
      Most will replace the dial, hands, indices, crystals, and straps without a second thought in a service. If the movement needs more than an oiling and a basic part that gets replaced too.

    • @TruckeeDoggo
      @TruckeeDoggo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drdesign6886 really? Once you get to the higher end, many of the movements have serial numbers that match the case serial number. Do they just etch the original serial number on a replacement movement?

    • @bigsmooshflopdong33
      @bigsmooshflopdong33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is simply cheaper to replace the movement rather than pay the time labor of servicing the old movement, and the watch gets back the owner quicker as an end result. It's a win-win.

    • @Huitzinga
      @Huitzinga 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@drdesign6886 Not sure about the others,but Tudor does not throw away its movements,they refurbish it,meaning they put a serviced movement they already have on stock and then they service the movement,that will be used in another watch in the future. That allows them a lower servicing time and customers won't need to wait until their watches are fully disassembled and serviced.

  • @davidelliott948
    @davidelliott948 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I can attest to the RO being a scratch magnet. The bracelet too!

  • @fire_watch7735
    @fire_watch7735 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I’ve owned many Speedy’s, however, the new 3861 is a charm to wind. Bigger crown and buttery to wind. Cheers

  • @CasparSchlickum
    @CasparSchlickum 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are so right about the AP Royal Oak. But you telling me that this is a problem everyone has, has instantly made me feel better about the state mine is in!!

  • @Pwj579
    @Pwj579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks Jenni, haven't seen your videos in awhile (Thanks YT?)
    As always great content!
    All the best

  • @dgdave2673
    @dgdave2673 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everyday morning winding my manual watches and some of the automatic ones also is a wonderful ritual ! Connects me with all the watches, keeps them in rotation. Never found it cumbersome or a waste of time. Infact, nowadays with see through case backs, I purposely look for manual winding so that half the mechanism is not hidden by the auto winding rotor !

  • @muhammadfadhil6729
    @muhammadfadhil6729 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vrey comprehensive and insightful! I might add that the problem with the Seiko only occurs on 7S26 models, the 4R movements are way ahead and much more fun to use. I own one of the 7S26 and cotemplating on upgrading to the 4R

  • @ForbinColossus
    @ForbinColossus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @1:37 if you want the Tissot PRX, buy the quartz version. You will save 2 to 3 hundred dollars and avoid the plastic pallet fork and plastic escape wheel in its powermatic 80 movement

  • @user-po8mb2jj4k
    @user-po8mb2jj4k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The Moonwatch--it's gorgeous, but... my biggest pet peeve is that you can't hack seconds on the 1861.

  • @D3Vlicious
    @D3Vlicious 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The issue with the older Seiko 5s also applies to also now discontinued SKX, since both are on the old 7S26 movement.

    • @cristianaviles6473
      @cristianaviles6473 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have yet to get into better movement watches, but I haven't had any problems with the 7s26 movement so far

    • @D3Vlicious
      @D3Vlicious 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cristianaviles6473 Pretty sure most people are just disappointed at the lack of hacking. And I know more than a few people who swapped in NH34s into their SKXs. Of course, now that it's discontinued, untouched examples with 7S26s are suddenly more desireable.

  • @rayestefania3725
    @rayestefania3725 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I had an Omega Speedmaster and I hated having to wind the watch and you're right, it was not easy to do. Also, the bracelet did not fit me right and it was difficult to get around my hand when taking it off. Overall, it was just not the watch for me and I ended up selling it after less than a year.

    • @maccoretti51
      @maccoretti51 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The watch is too big, and too old. 💩

    • @7.92Gav
      @7.92Gav 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@maccoretti51 it's tiny 😅

  • @pinkbono
    @pinkbono 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The tiny crown on the Speedy is one of the reasons why I'm wearing a Mark II instead, same crown but 56h automatic movement which allows me to alternate with my other pieces during the week-end, for exemple.

    • @maccoretti51
      @maccoretti51 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A much better watch 👍

  • @diydad7704
    @diydad7704 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Jenni! This is certainly an interesting list but apart from the last two that are completely out of my range, i think there are solutions to all the other problems:
    For the Sea-Gull and the older Seiko just swap the movement. Same goes for the PRX, a PT5000 may very well be as reliable as the ETA it comes with, but if you want a better solution there's always the Sellita SW-200.
    Talking about plastic parts, the Lemania 5100 is a well accepted chrono movement that also contains plastic parts. It would be very interesting (wink, wink) to find out what the parts of the ETA C07.111 are made of and how durable they are. A family like with connections to a plethora of watchmakers (i think) should be able to find out more about it, don't you think?
    When it comes to the MoonSwatch, just get a Pagani, it's stainless steel with a Seiko meca-quartz movement for about a third of the price, and call it a day. 😎

  • @oneeyeman6258
    @oneeyeman6258 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You touched on my biggest pet peeve when I owned a Speedmaster.
    Can't Omega make the crown a tiny bit thicker? I just don't understand why they won't do that!

    • @maccoretti51
      @maccoretti51 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Try FOIS - much better Speedmaster.

    • @Mega-zi7ys
      @Mega-zi7ys 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      3861 lovely to wind

    • @vvvhhhhhbb
      @vvvhhhhhbb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Mega-zi7ysAgreed. It's literally butter. I have 7.5" wrist and big fingers. Never had an issue.

  • @olivierfloury5573
    @olivierfloury5573 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Same "hard-to-wind" concern with the Omega Speedmaster '57... which is not an automatic either 😢

  • @mattfoss1652
    @mattfoss1652 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I sold my Royal Oak 15400 because the bracelet was not comfortable; even when sized perfectly. Any watch bracelet that does not feature some kind of extension link will not work for a lot of people. Keep the videos coming Jenni!!

    • @zillsburyy1
      @zillsburyy1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      patek is much better

    • @JamieWalker-pc6nd
      @JamieWalker-pc6nd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like the bracelet and to the person above, you have a PATEK do you?

  • @rbiswish
    @rbiswish 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    me: thumbnails/titles like this are such clickbait
    me: *clicks*

  • @chnzwh01
    @chnzwh01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The 3861 speedy is noticeably easier to wind than the 1861. Having said that, the 1861 isn’t really hard to wind if you use the right technique.

    • @maccoretti51
      @maccoretti51 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Hire a small child to wind it twice a day 😂

    • @be5952
      @be5952 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Being forced to use a specific 'technique' to wind _any_ watch is evidence of bad design. While winding a watch can be a nice little ritual, if doing so creates even a bit of hassle, it's a non-starter, and should never have left the design table.

  • @WestCoastAce27
    @WestCoastAce27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Interesting topic and good choices. And I’m sure many people never look into the negatives before buying.

    • @maccoretti51
      @maccoretti51 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I made the Speedmaster mistake twice. Don't be me. 😞

  • @michaelr21
    @michaelr21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Sea-Gull 1963 is indeed a great watch. I would recommend buying the original from Sea-Gull (not from the Chinese third-party companies) - it costs more, but the quality of craftsmanship is much better (including the movement which is much more beautifully finished) - and it's significantly less prone to errors than the many variants (unfortunately, there's no sapphire glass back for the 1962/1963). I can judge this quite well because I have 8 watches with the ST19 movement - 4 of which are directly (original) from Sea-Gull. I never had any problems with the Sea-Gull variants, and when one of them was severely damaged in a bike accident, it was also repaired cost-effectively by a watchmaker in Germany.

    • @g43654
      @g43654 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for buying our watches, comrade. Happy Year of the Looong.

  • @meltdowngrfx969
    @meltdowngrfx969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Totally agree about the Speedmaster! I’ve always had trouble winding it, but still one of my favorites.

  • @bullnose01
    @bullnose01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent observations.

  • @devo196047
    @devo196047 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! I have never heard this before.

  • @billybenson3834
    @billybenson3834 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love my PRX, it's accurate enough for me especially since I own and wear different watches weekly so the adjustment complaint isn't a big deal. My local watch shop also doesn't think it's difficult to adjust if needed. My complaint about the PRX is the tiny crown.

  • @Ixorpehc
    @Ixorpehc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have 2 Seiko 5 vintage pieces. I love the dial designs, but being automatic with no hand-winding, it's a pain to keep them running. Adjusting the time is also a nuisance, because the crowns are tiny and don't pull out far enough to be comfortable to operate.

  • @yannickoehrli
    @yannickoehrli หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I sold my Omega speedmaster for this exact reason! Always wanted one, owned it for 2 months and i was done!

  • @Jungleman707
    @Jungleman707 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Is the Santos also a scratch magnet? I sold my DJ 41 because I could not bear the micro scratches despite it being a lovely watch.

    • @Danny_Malou
      @Danny_Malou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It is. But after some time the micro scratches all come together and it adds to the character in my opinion.

    • @maccoretti51
      @maccoretti51 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You can brush the PCLs and keep the watch 🤔 your loss

    • @Bu-22
      @Bu-22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I feel like the Santos is even more of a scratch magnet than a DJ.

    • @DucNguyen-jy3gi
      @DucNguyen-jy3gi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I second that. Still own both but the Santos looks so beat up now@@Bu-22

    • @Leo-gh7nz
      @Leo-gh7nz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is, but the Santos has a huge feature that can help prevent scratches. It has one of the best (if not THE best) instant bracelet change systems in the business. So if you feel like you'll be in a situation where the watch may get roughed up a bit (maybe a night on the town), you can switch it to a leather or rubber strap and keep the bracelet clean.

  • @christopherriley5215
    @christopherriley5215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My 3861 speedy is a dream to own. I love winding it, it’s truly one of the joys of owning it.

    • @highnrising
      @highnrising 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I get more joy out of wearing a self-winding watch and (almost) never having to wind it.

    • @boaster012
      @boaster012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@highnrising it's like manual and automatic cars: to each his own.

    • @highnrising
      @highnrising 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@boaster012 This may surprise you, but I drive a manual transmission car. And I'll replace it with another manual in a few years, (if they're still available). But I would never buy a manual wind watch--unless, it were something vintage thtat I was buying for looks and collectibility. Stick shift cars are fun. And since I'm since I have to be sitting in the driver's seat, anyway, and since my right hand doesn't have anything else to do, shifting gears is not an inconvenience.

    • @boaster012
      @boaster012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @highnrising I'm not associating manual cars to handwinding watches; just saying that people's preferences are different. Somebody would never buy automatic, somebody else would never buy anything but; I've got both, and I've got a Speedmaster and a Submariner (among others). Preferences.

  • @starnet1340
    @starnet1340 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As for the Seagull 1963, I've bought one and right away decided to test the "stop watch" function. I own other watches with the function that have a cool feature: when you press the reset pusher while the stop watch is running, it will pause and you get lap time. When you then press the start/stop pusher, the second hand will "catch up" with the actual stop watch time.
    Well, I tried that on the Seagull and it broke the reset pusher. I can still run the stop watch, start/stop it, but I can NO LONGER reset it... Later I found a small user guide card inside the package, that warned against that very thing, but who reads those before they try a watch's intuitive function? Like you said, it would be cheaper to buy a new one, so I'm keeping it as it is... 😢

  • @klching4741
    @klching4741 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I totally agree with the 7S26 movement. For the same reason, I hardly wear my Samurai anymore and bought another Samurai which uses the 4R movement.

  • @ivanfreely6366
    @ivanfreely6366 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to own a Seagull 1963 just to add some variety in my collection but, getting the genuine version (which you appear to have) has been problematic. Unfortunately their prices have increased (but not their quality control) so it gives many a pause on whether to purchase it or not.

  • @jackominty3633
    @jackominty3633 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Royal Oak is a delicate watch that I wear maybe 20 or 30 times a year, and I'm very careful with it. As a consequence, after 2 years, it's still immaculate.
    I have several other watches at various budgets, but my go-to daily is my Polar explorer II. It is very well adapted to daily wear because it is virtually all brushed, so it really doesn't show minor scratches. It also helps that I adore it.

  • @paulwhite8556
    @paulwhite8556 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Hi, I love your channel. I own a speedy with the 3861 movement and it is a joy to own and wind.. the watch is so cool.. rhe winding is quite easy and mechanical watches are the best if you like watches and are a enthusiast. It is the experience of owning this watch that is so satisfying.

    • @emmanuelgt5
      @emmanuelgt5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here. They made the crown different and bigger I think than the older ones and something with the movement inside maybe , it was advertised and is easier to wind than the 1861

  • @alexsystems2001
    @alexsystems2001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree the Omega Speedmaster sucked to own. It’s one of those watches that seems like a great idea when you get it but then you realize all the many more downfalls once you live with it for a while. You don’t realize how much you miss having a date, you don’t realize how bad the bracelet is with no on the fly micro adjustments (I believe they fixed that) you realize how inaccurate the movement is and that there is no hacking, and as someone who basically lives my life with my watch, it has to go everywhere with me, at times I take a dip in the pool, the omega Speedmaster unfortunately isn’t a pool kind of a watch so once I had other watches in my collection and the Speedmaster started getting less and less wrist time until I sold it.

  • @cedricspies6293
    @cedricspies6293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good vidéo thx

  • @lebojay
    @lebojay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My PRX runs at +2.7s/d, well within COSC standards.
    You think I should be disappointed that its accuracy can’t be improved?
    I love your videos, but that complaint seems silly to me.

    • @jasongultjaeff9397
      @jasongultjaeff9397 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She's just jumping on the TH-camr bandwagon of bagging out the movement of the PRX due to "plastic" parts and "serviceability". The movement just gets replaced if any problems, just like most watches.

    • @biggles54321
      @biggles54321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The PRX movement is laser-regulated (whatever that means) at the factory. My other mechanical watches do not approach the accuracy of my PRX and PR100.

    • @shoesters6298
      @shoesters6298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      PRX FTW

  • @michaelnissen3556
    @michaelnissen3556 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks that is so helpful! I almost bought a speedmaster and a swatch speedmaster. My biggest issue with the speed master is the lack of water resistance! You can’t just decide to go swimming with it unlike my submariner and explorer, real tool watches!

  • @josips4281
    @josips4281 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sold my speedmaster just because of the crown. In the end it was never worn. One of the worst handwinding experiences.

    • @maccoretti51
      @maccoretti51 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I lost the same pusher twice on a new one 💀💀💀

    • @markhurley3242
      @markhurley3242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ditto, only it took me 4 times buying and selling this watch to finally give up and acknowledge that the constant hand winding that skinny crown with my gorilla thumb and fingers was not going to work. I still love the Speedy as long as it is on someone else's wrist.

  • @overkillbliss6535
    @overkillbliss6535 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Totally agree on the Speedmaster. My 3861 sits while I wear others, only because of that tiny crown that no grown man can grasp to wind. Like a supermodel, beautiful, but unusable.

  • @antslim168
    @antslim168 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Casio Royale Steel bracelet is the GOAT. Accurate, 5 alarms, 48 city world time, stopwatch, timer, Amber light, 100m WR, 10 year battery and $29. No contest

  • @hazxman
    @hazxman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omega Dynamic. Changing the dates (not an issue if u wear it daily) requires to pull and push the crown to move to another date. I always worry I might break it especially if I need to do it a lot of times, plus its not so smooth

  • @philmanson2991
    @philmanson2991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I second LMNY1: Winding my Speedy every day is the nostalgia I seek. And though I might never make it to space, my son might (if we don't destroy the planet beforehand).

  • @richardedward123
    @richardedward123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting. This one should get some lively comments. I find Moonswatch dial is just too busy for me. Simple and uncluttered dials work for me. Cheers from Texas, USA.

  • @bigsmooshflopdong33
    @bigsmooshflopdong33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The powermatic has 2 plastic parts that don't affect the serviceability what-so-ever. The free sprung balance set up is far less likely to go out of spec compared to a tradition regulating organ (likely why companies like Rolex do a similar setup). Also, the powermatics are already regulated by a laser from the factory, which typically boasts awesome timekeeping, so needing adjustment is relatively rare. The 2 complaints are invalid.

  • @corychecketts
    @corychecketts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've never had an issue winding my Moonwatch and I have big, man hands.

  • @everythingthatiswrongwithe8752
    @everythingthatiswrongwithe8752 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok....nope. I have a hesalite Speedy. I wind it once every morning(I enjoy winding it, as it connects me with the watch) and I have ZERO issues. I bigger fingers too. This watch is fantastic. Simply put.

  • @ryangochuico
    @ryangochuico 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Grand Seiko zaratsu polish gets scratches when it gets in contact with air😅
    Especially the 44GS case

  • @meat_loves_wasabi
    @meat_loves_wasabi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My omega planet ocean chrono crown came off when i pulled it about 6-7yrs ago…

  • @robertosanchez4021
    @robertosanchez4021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have own several RO and Nautiluses, but I much prefer the Nautilus, both are scratch magnets, but the Nautilus is more comfortable to wear, and has better water resistance...

  • @vvvhhhhhbb
    @vvvhhhhhbb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Funny, have never had an issue winding the Speedie. Quite easy actually. I have the 3861, maybe it's easier to wind.

  • @Drjfever
    @Drjfever 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im sorry but I have the hesalite moon watch. You buy it knowing that its a manual wind. Thats part of the appeal. If like me you were born in the 60s, all cheap watches for kids were manual wind at that time. You were around to see the Apollo 11 mission on TV as it unfolded. You watched a grainy image of Armstrong walking down the steps on the Eagle and stepping onto the moon. Hence the appeal of the watch and the manual wind to me - a fair bit of nostalgia. It doesn’t suck if you get it. Perhaps it sucks that you dont.

  • @MarlonFamilton
    @MarlonFamilton 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have the 3861 - never had the thought that it is difficult to wind. Had to go get it and see.. not even remotely an issue. Maybe an issue for smaller fingers? When it debuted there were comments the edges were sharp. Sure, maybe. Yet, not an issue either. I love it.

  • @Hashkatina
    @Hashkatina 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own 2 Seiko 5's with the 7S26 movement and always enjoy the shake to get it fired up. You have to figure in the bang for buck when these watches were around $100 bucks to buy back in the day. For Omega, I would get annoyed with the bezel action on the Seamaster (if I owned one). So it is a pass for me but I've heard many owners are disappointed with the action.

  • @JakeAikens
    @JakeAikens 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great, I have three of the watches on this list. I didn't know about the PRX, the Seagull is pretty obvious but it just never occured to me. The moonwatch, I hate winding mine. I can never seem to get it fully wound and that thing where you wind it and the crown rotates backwards makes me insane. I'll never part with it though, love that watch.

  • @MrChippinator
    @MrChippinator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for calling out the Powermatic 80. My watchmaker told me never to buy one as they’re unserviceable. Drives me crazy when the 2824 was such a great movement!

  • @youSupaflyy
    @youSupaflyy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seriously though what's up with Omega's crowns...I have an omega worldtimer and the screw down crown actually kinda hurts my fingers to unscrew and screw back on. Not to mention that it doesn't have a quick set date either. But you know what? I love it. And i'm convinced that a watch's imperfections end up making it even more dear to you in the long run :)

  • @jinzhao7865
    @jinzhao7865 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And that is why I love my Speedmaster FOIS, no crown guard, loving winding it

  • @cgranero1
    @cgranero1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will just add that any watch with a moonphase is kind of a pain if it’s not the watch you wear every day. I love the look of them, but every time the watch stops you either have to push the moonphase ahead as many times as you do the date, or you have to look up the last full moon or new moon and then get your moonphase to that point and then forward from there move it ahead as many days as it has been since then. It’s just an extra hassle if you don’t wear that moonphase very often.

  • @masudaharris6435
    @masudaharris6435 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the end, I just want an easy watch to own. One that I don't have to wind or keep adjusting the time. The design or the style takes a back seat. My daily wearer is an old Casio watch. I took a spill on concrete stairs and it kept on ticking even though the owner was banged up a bit.

  • @RodrigoBarbosaBR
    @RodrigoBarbosaBR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love my Seagull 1963. It is one of my favorite watches. But I'm well aware that if it ever breaks, I might as well just buy a new one.

  • @adsingl
    @adsingl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I doubt I'd ever spend money on the this AP or this Patek, maybe any they offer, but it's crazy at those price points that most, certainly I, would have to think about scratching it every time I put it on. This would definitely keep nearly any watch over about $2k off my list. Makes me feel better than the Mission to Mars I just bought because it matches my new Guards red Cayman pretty well (not perfect but close enough); I just had to, LOL! They will both be used as intended, with the best care I can manage w/o worrying about it.

  • @eddieluvski4499
    @eddieluvski4499 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, dont sweat the small stuff on the Speedy! The previous 1861 crown is a "little" tough to wind, and i have big fingers. But nothing anyone cant handle. That problem does dont even apply to the new 3861 version. That crown is much easier to pull out, and also much easier to wind as well. A nice improvement.'

  • @ntag411
    @ntag411 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An interesting episode. I bought all my Swiss branded watch back around 2000 and earlier. Too me pricing today and for the past many years is ludicrous. While many styles current and some from the past I like, the transition from tool to jewelry came at a price other than actual price, functionality. Example, all my Tag Heuer 2000 series rotating bezels for elapsed time is useless. While the click is much better than the 1000 series, any grime within the bezel will cause breakage of the bezel click spring. Even the removal of the bezel will cause the multi-fingered click spring to break a finger. A real hassle to replace and the click spring is fairly specific. Cost of spring is/was $25, not a fortune but I should not be spending part of my life doing this, IMO. Depending on model the spring is different.

  • @ssanchez22
    @ssanchez22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Re AP RO, same can be said for the VC Overseas. The bezel is a scratch magnet

  • @Simple_Jack82
    @Simple_Jack82 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My timex m79 is still going strong. I get a ton of compliments on it. People are surprised when I say timex

  • @afuentesalburo
    @afuentesalburo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agree with your assessment of the Moonwatch. The problem is not that the crown is deep, the problem is that the crown is squared and at winding the corners push your fingers to the pushers around. Don’t get me wrong, I like it, but will never be my everyday watch.

  • @canadianwatchmonkey3992
    @canadianwatchmonkey3992 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Omega speedmaster is so hard to wind that there are winding sticks made to make it easier to wind😊. 😊

    • @maccoretti51
      @maccoretti51 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ikr 😂

  • @MrLouislaf
    @MrLouislaf หลายเดือนก่อน

    What? I love my daily, winding ritual on my trusted Speedy. It’s actually a good therapy. Winding it makes me forget I have to go to work soon! 😂

  • @AliAslam-bi9vy
    @AliAslam-bi9vy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could not agree more on the Speedmaster! Even on automatic versions, winding the watch and setting the time and date are a huge pain. The recessed crown design is absolutely terrible and leaves your thumb and finger sore from winding. Omega really needs to put in a screw down crown that pops out for easy winding. A quick set date wouldn't hurt either!

  • @mauriciomucino1015
    @mauriciomucino1015 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love manual wind watches, specially my Moonwatch

  • @stefan_HEX
    @stefan_HEX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Santos de Cartier. Bezel is a magnet. But Cartier gives you a free polish for when you feel its gone to far. Mine is with the gold bezel and screws. So even more a magnet.

  • @sazaria80
    @sazaria80 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seiko V looks good on your hand there!

  • @doriangray2347
    @doriangray2347 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would like to see more of these

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with servicing cost doesn't seem to be exclusive to "cheap" Chinese watches. At least if my local watch-maker's prices are anything to go by. About a year or so back I brought in my father's ghastly gold dress watch (think Gruen Precision with a gold Milanese bracelet ... *shudder*) for a long overdue service and that cost me nearly EUR 300. IIRC, the movement is a pretty standard automatic ETA affair, so nothing too fancy. And it's not like the watch-maker in question was a luxury store... far from it, actually - more like a small mom-and-pop local watch-maker in a relatively normal part of town.
    I guess that would be another reason to try and go for Rolex and Rolex only - because even though their servicing cost will be higher still, at least there's a good chance the watch's value will either stay constant or even increase - so servicing it could be viewed as simply taking care of your investment.. :)

  • @markrudolph9887
    @markrudolph9887 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wrong info on the Seiko 5. I can totally hand wind my Seiko 5. It’s actually a great convenience to keep them running on a daily basis, when I chose to wear something else.

  • @fdfac
    @fdfac 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you kindly for bringing truth to the industry. Kudos! 😉

  • @designated_hitter_EGA
    @designated_hitter_EGA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Timex bracelet sounds like my grandfathers 'flex band'

  • @plantbased7486
    @plantbased7486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve had my AP 15202 for 10 years now and i wear it approx once a week. It remains a consistent part of my rotation. It hardly has any scratches on it. Admittedly, i am more aware of my surroundings in general when i wear it but Im happy with the way its holding up

  • @htn47
    @htn47 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And GS.. When you have some scruff and scratches on a GS, I think there is not much to do unless they were shipped out to Japan for proper finish. I love GS and have two of them. All dress watches due to work position. Other 3 Rolex(es) get the beating in turn and in between..

  • @nickyz19851985
    @nickyz19851985 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your channel but I think you've gone a bit extreme here - does it "suck to own" a PRX80 because it lacks some inner mechanism most casual watch buyers haven't even heard of? I'd say the benefits far outweigh the costs here.
    I'm also a bit baffled by the Moonswatch segment - it was basically a (successful) marketing ploy made in glorified plastic, were people really surprised the quality was subpar?
    Finally, on the RO - I've owned one since 2018, and while I don't wear it everyday as it's not that kind of watch for me, with a decent amount of care all it has to show for it are 2 *minor* scratches. Over 6 years I doubt other steel watches would have fared much better...
    That said, great channel and keep it up!

  • @rokoshrokosh
    @rokoshrokosh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch difficult to hand wind? Naah.. I (fortunately maybe) haven’t had that problem. But yes, this is certainly true of other Speedmasters: one of them is the Triple Date. Now that is a major PIA to wind, the Speedmaster 1957 (the Broad arrow with the blued hands and markers) isn’t much better. These are automatics, yes, but if you haven’t worn them for sometime and decide to wind them- be prepared for some stress..😊

  • @crbswiss
    @crbswiss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find that the crown problem of the speedy is overblown. i daily drive my speedy and don't find it to be an issue with my fat fingers. if anything, it makes you pay attention to what your doing, and actually take a moment to enjoy the beauty of the thing.

  • @websiteowns
    @websiteowns หลายเดือนก่อน

    The scratching parts made me wonder. There must be some sort of protection film for watches? Thinking similar to ppf for cars

  • @Cam-yu8wy
    @Cam-yu8wy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have both a prx 80 and le locle - gotta say: really doesn't suck to own them, quite the opposite. Great value for money with them.

  • @trainsplanesandotherthings5187
    @trainsplanesandotherthings5187 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not a surprise on the Swatch Moon Watch.. That thing is built like a toy..

  • @wendyandgeoffpattison2610
    @wendyandgeoffpattison2610 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The one problem with manual wind is that you wear the seals out faster, requiring more frequent servicing if you need to maintain the water resistance. If water resistance is a non issue for you, who cares?

  • @Halfmoon67
    @Halfmoon67 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The 7S26 is a fantastic movement, very basic and not decorated but it’s a workhorse, really well made !

  • @SinnerAndSaint
    @SinnerAndSaint 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks Jenni for actually pointing out such things! Especially the crown handling of the Speedmaster. I owned this watch as well and I can absolutely agree. Maybe this isn't something most people will actually see as a negative point as they think 'well it's a mechanical Chronograph so it is what it is' but if you have experienced more other (luxury) watches you know there are other examples that are much more comfortable to operate. This applies to many other little things on some popular models. This may sound nitpicky but after experiencing a lot of watches this is meanwhile a major factor for my decision to whether keep a watch long term or not.

  • @kylestokes4501
    @kylestokes4501 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will only own Self-Winding Autos after the Speedmaster. I have Proctologist sized sausage fingers like our old mail carrier. Thankfully my father’s small build and smaller hands make it perfectly usable for him- and his generation already used to winding their own watches. Now it’s the Scratch Magnet Yacht-master with Red Second hand, but I am happy now😊

  • @sandimiller6465
    @sandimiller6465 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've never had any trouble winding my Speedmaster, my Royal Oak Marine does have a couple of scratches, but so what, so does my Mercedes. I love my Seagull, but if it breaks I'll just buy another one. You can buy more than a few Seagull ST19s for the price of other chronographs.

  • @jvairola
    @jvairola 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love my Omega Speedmaster Pro Moonwatch. I have absolutely no problem winding or maneuvering the crown. But, to each is own. It’s great there are so many watches to choose from and collect. There is no watch which is right for everyone.

  • @nicob3226
    @nicob3226 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The real problem with the speed master is its poor water resistance.

    • @maccoretti51
      @maccoretti51 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ZERO water resistance 😂