Ten Features of the Danube Class Runabout in Star Trek

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  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    #11 They were all named after rivers on Earth, a point Major Kira noted:
    "With all the Runabouts we're going through, it's fortunate that Earth has so many rivers".

    • @andipositas4731
      @andipositas4731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Leo Peridot because Starfleet is from earth

    • @datathunderstorm
      @datathunderstorm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was there a Runabout called “Niger” after the River Niger? 😳

    • @colinmack8655
      @colinmack8655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I loved that line

    • @tamaspapp225
      @tamaspapp225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Danube Class

    • @mb2000
      @mb2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Leo Peridot In universe: Sisko is naming them himself (as we saw with the Rubicon). I do wonder why there wasn’t a USS Mississippi though…
      Out of universe: adding extra lines of dialog to explain an alien name was deemed a waste of time.
      Though if you want to go into novels set after the show when Kira was running DS9, they start getting ones named for Bajoran rivers, like USS Glyrhond, USS Tecyr, and USS Yolja.

  • @RoballTV
    @RoballTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Shout out to the Rio Grande, the Runabout that survives the entirety of DS9 :)

    • @Zhortac
      @Zhortac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The Rio Grande was built with ablative plot armor, but their supply for that one runabout

    • @mb2000
      @mb2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      There’s something special about that ship. Perhaps it’s “blessed by the Prophets” for being the ship that brought The Sisko to them?

    • @Dontlicktheballoons
      @Dontlicktheballoons 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank the prophets it wasn't assigned to Voyager😂

    • @Willigula
      @Willigula 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Dontlicktheballoonsthey would have rebuilt it half a dozen times out of space garbage. Lol.

    • @ThatSlowTypingGuy
      @ThatSlowTypingGuy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It did crash and get crippled at few times, so it wasn't completely immune.

  • @paulsweeney2959
    @paulsweeney2959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    At a con many many years ago, Rick had said the runabout was a bit of a behind the scenes homage to the Eagle with it's modular design. He called it Deep Space: 1999.

    • @gregorynofsker7554
      @gregorynofsker7554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You Sir just stole my thunder... :-)

    • @garylim2
      @garylim2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow. I was just thinking the same. Especially the location.

    • @cyril-rr2jk
      @cyril-rr2jk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was going to say something about the modular similarity to the Eagle, which I first noticed when I bought the model kit. I was always a little bothered by the potential "rip-off" factor in a show that already ripped off other people's ideas. This is the first I've heard of him acknowledging Space 1999 as an influence, and that acknowledgement makes the Danube more of an homage and less of a rip-off. Of course, that leaves the whole story arc of the show...

    • @thegreatbamboozler4837
      @thegreatbamboozler4837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awesome... and I was also considering the mission specific interchangeability of Thunderbird 2.

    • @digitalramyun
      @digitalramyun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've often thought the concept and design of the DS9 "runabouts", were influenced by the Eagle Transporters (e.g. the modular system of extending its capabilities). This might answer the question posed in the video - why raise the runabout into launch position on a hydraulic lift? - insofar as this was the method used to prepare Eagles for launch in "Space: 1999". I never knew Rick had actually stated the Danube class was a "nod" to the Eagle, but kudos to him for mentioning it...

  • @ClassicMagicMan
    @ClassicMagicMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I was not ready for that opening but LMFAO it was what I needed.

    • @dezertson2011
      @dezertson2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂🤣

    • @hobomike6935
      @hobomike6935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "FIRE PHASERS! *heavy breathing* LAUNCH TORPEDOES!!!" *intense trekkie fan mouthbreathing noises*

    • @arthurballs9632
      @arthurballs9632 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was lacking in imagination and originality. But what would you expect from these talentless shills for the equality banal Lucasfilm storygroup.

    • @josephbrandon549
      @josephbrandon549 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arthurballs9632 Just curious, do you wear ascots while making comments like these? I can see you wearing one, doing your best to mimic the Monopoly Man looking down on all other forms of Science Fiction other than whichever Star Trek series you deem to be "real" Star Trek.

  • @ElderNewt
    @ElderNewt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Yes... the true power of the Danube Class Runabout - hovering over traffic

    • @greanstreak04
      @greanstreak04 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can it tractor beam that prius with the handicap plates and 400 bumper stickers out of the left lane???

    • @ElderNewt
      @ElderNewt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@greanstreak04 you'd think not... But then there is a module just for that purpose.
      30 second change over and boom.. left lane is free once more

  • @armorer94
    @armorer94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The whole concept from the elevated lifts, to the swappable center modules is reminiscent of the eagles from "Space: 1999".

    • @KJsProjects
      @KJsProjects 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or Thunderbird 2

    • @johnwang9914
      @johnwang9914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KJsProjects Well given that Space 1999 was made by the same people who made Thunderbirds as well as UFO, that isn't surprising.

    • @EZ-D-FIANT
      @EZ-D-FIANT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lots of aircraft carriers in the real Matrix I mean world do a similar thing too.

  • @taitano12
    @taitano12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The first time I saw one of these, I thought of Lone Star's flying Winnebago. I wish my Winnie was as modular as the Runabout. Some are - Toy-haulers, and luxury horse trailers, specifically - but most aren't.

  • @willmfrank
    @willmfrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Re: Point #10
    "In Deep Space Nine, we see multiple Runabout crashes..."
    Yet another callback to Space:1999's Eagles.
    "Carter to Moonbase Alpha! I can't hold her! She's gonna crash!...Again!"

  • @jonquil121
    @jonquil121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The ship and the launch bays were clear homages to the Eagle and its bays in Space 1999

    • @eddieblanco230
      @eddieblanco230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's what I always thought

    • @datathunderstorm
      @datathunderstorm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now I have to go watch that excellent full animation of an Eagle taking off from earth and flying to the moon - all to the 2nd season Space: 1999 Theme - spine tingling to watch - especially with the now included heat shields for re-entry into the earth’s atmosphere!

    • @garylim2
      @garylim2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It may not really matter how heavy the platform can lift. In space, switch off the artificial gravity, and the runabout weighs nothing

    • @LoneBrowncoat
      @LoneBrowncoat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garylim2 ....True, you could push them out by hand.

    • @LoneBrowncoat
      @LoneBrowncoat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eddieblanco230 .....Me too.

  • @naturelass
    @naturelass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    the landing pads were actually already present the cardassians sealed them when they left the station and i think the reason for the lift is for cases of vessels on the large side of small who may have had less than a meter clearance on either side also thusters and impulse engines release ionised gas when they take off i am not sure how good that would be inside the station so the lifts possibly allowed for engins to be turned off before being brought inside and also to be kept off until the vessel was outside, plus the lift was a cardassian design it is possible cardassian shuttles were less designed for vertical take off hence the need for them, there is also the possibility the lifts were used for cargo pods that were manually left by a vessel then brought down and then later ejected by use of the lift for collecting by a vessel.

    • @garylim2
      @garylim2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good answer!

    • @clancykohl
      @clancykohl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Though the engines seem to be no concern, as ships launch from shuttle bays just like that. And if you can manage to land a craft on a platform with such a precision that it can be taken in by the lift, you probably can do the same a little further, bringing it down the hole. I think the cargo one makes the most sense.

  • @jenniferstewarts4851
    @jenniferstewarts4851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hey I'd take a runabout. Honestly, they are like the perfect "civilian" ship to...

  • @richardowens9061
    @richardowens9061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Remember, DS9 was a Cardassian station. So, the Danube Class Runabout was merely using a bay that was already there. We don't know how or why the Cardassians might have been using that bay - although, ostensibly, it housed some kind of ship, perhaps, some kind of supply freighter or fighter used to defend the station. And, whatever ships might have used it, the bay would provide protection for the smaller ships during an assault on the station.

  • @eurogryphon
    @eurogryphon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The only one that _didn't_ end up in an interstellar junkyard was the _Rio Grande._ If you want to be _safe_ take that ship...or just get a cushy job at a Creole restaurant.

  • @HalferLandPerformance
    @HalferLandPerformance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The runabout is one of my favorite ships/classes. Never understood why

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I like it too, because it is the kind of ship you can imagine owning as like a space version of an RV for family vacations

    • @RoballTV
      @RoballTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@GenerationFilms Aye, and I think runabouts, or civilian equivalents are probably fairly common, you see lots of civilians and aliens of other races going about in ships of a comparable size through all the series :)

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GenerationFilms Which it literally was in one episode!

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@GenerationFilms I like to think the Danube shuttle was the first small space craft that Starfleet considered to be completely independent starship capable of doing all sort of low level missions throughout Federation space and capable of operating for weeks at a time independently. An Starfleet had thousands of the things flying about.

    • @JennyEverywhere
      @JennyEverywhere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just enough ship to be useful and provide a complete living space, but small enough that one person can run it with some judicious automation. If your were extremely fortunate (and rich) one could get a Danube-class configured for your personal use as a sort of home/RV/space office, and wouldn't have to hire a crew to man it...though a couple of hands might be useful to keep watch and fix things now and then.

  • @davidcox1508
    @davidcox1508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Danube class is a personal favorite of mine, and being from Texas, I was rather happy that the DS9 crew more often than not 'saddled up' with the USS Rio Grande.
    It wasn't until I assembled the AMT plastic model kit that I REALLY became a fan of its design - truly a wonderful Starfleet vessel!

    • @emsleywyatt3400
      @emsleywyatt3400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got that model too but I also scavenged a 1/72 scale figure from, I think the old Invaders UFO kit and painted him up like Sisko.

    • @mr.e1026
      @mr.e1026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm more of a Delta Flyer sort, myself. I absolutely love the bridge layout inside of it. If I was to design a space craft that I was the captain of, I'd like it to be like that.

  • @chrischeshire6528
    @chrischeshire6528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very good, informative video about my favorite small starship, big shuttle. The Command module, mission module and warp engine reminds me of the Space 1999 Eagle which broke down the same way.

  • @shagrat47
    @shagrat47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You basically answered the question for the lift/bay with the modular design... You want to assemble the pods in a pressurized bay, not in top of the habitat ring with a power hungry forcefield for protection, I guess.

    • @cycaboose
      @cycaboose 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      His point is why it needed a lift, not why it was in a bay with a door. They could have just opened the door and had it fly out rather than be raised.

  • @MrDDiRusso
    @MrDDiRusso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have always believed that the runabout is the equivalent of a large cargo helicopter like the CH 53 SEA STALLION or CH 54 TARHE SKYCRANE.

    • @LoneBrowncoat
      @LoneBrowncoat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still smaller than a Chinook.

    • @MrDDiRusso
      @MrDDiRusso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LoneBrowncoat the CH 53 is narrower than the Chinook but the Sea Stallion carries more weight and flies faster. The new King Stallion is even more capable.

    • @_WillCAD_
      @_WillCAD_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The design is actually a Star Trek take on the Skycrane. Or perhaps a Trek version of the Space 1999 Eagle Transporter, which was itself a sci-fi version of the Skycrane.
      I actually think the Eagle is a better design, because it doesn't include the permanent corridor down the center that the mission modules have to wrap around.

  • @mb2000
    @mb2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Always thought it was a massive shame that we never got to see more of the runabouts besides the cockpit on DS9. Especially when TNG built the set pretty much for DS9.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They reused a lot of the runabout cabin from TNG for the Defiant cabins - mainly the bunk beds, but more besides. And they didn’t have enough budget to replace or redesign it sadly.

    • @mb2000
      @mb2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kaitlyn__L Yeh, pretty sure the rear cabin set was actually only seen on DS9 as the guest quarters on the USS Prometheus in “Second Sight”.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mb2000 ah! I knew Sayetek’s private suite looked familiar! I’d noticed various reused doors and walls, but hadn’t picked-up on which set was redressed.

    • @thethirdchimpanzee
      @thethirdchimpanzee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Voyager "Aerowing" was designed around the Runabout, the Aerowing so that if there was ever a call to show it onscreen they could just use the Runabout sets. Even the exterior of the Aerowing was basically a Runabout with wings.

  • @syndicalist-0
    @syndicalist-0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think I needed this today. Thank you

  • @StormsparkPegasus
    @StormsparkPegasus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Having vulnerabilities to weapons doesn't make it a deathtrap. Just means it was not designed for combat. The weapons it did have were defensive. Most vehicles (land AND air) you see in the real world today have a TON of vulnerabilities like that against military vehicles, because they aren't designed for combat. A Cessna isn't a deathtrap just because an F-16 can easily destroy it. A Tesla Model 3 isn't a deathtrap because an M-1 Abrams can easily destroy it.

    • @grayscribe1342
      @grayscribe1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Can an F-16 even target a Cessna?
      Just wondering because with the speed difference, low heat signature and so on I don't know if an F-16 can hit a Cessna.
      I also remember the time when a Cessna flew right through the best air defence systems in the world undetected only being noticed when it landed on the Red Square in Moscow.

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ALL Teslas are death traps, with self locking doors that won't unlock after a crash, & batteries that explode & burn fiercely, & cook their occupants!

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@DMSProduktions Bullshit and lies. They are 9 times less likely to get into an accident than other vehicles. And fires are MUCH MUCH more rare than in gas vehicles (the chance of a fire is less than 10% that of a combustion vehicle).

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@StormsparkPegasus LOL! Yes, you keep telling your self that!

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DMSProduktions I don't have to tell myself anything. I deal in facts.

  • @mysterymayhem7020
    @mysterymayhem7020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this was definitely a good one. I always love the Danube class.

  • @Adam_Boots
    @Adam_Boots 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Sydney class was actually a modification of the Spacedock shuttle from the movies so was originally scaled similarly to the size the runabout ended up.

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was going to say. It looks really similar to the ones from III IV and VI.
      The side plate design definitely hails from the original shuttle.. probably influenced by Cadillac.. as well as the smaller amount of materials to build it.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah those lights are not decks.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It has a bridge pod, it has multiple rows of pale yellow lights - yeah, they are decks.
      Scales to 235 metres by nacelles and bridge.

    • @Adam_Boots
      @Adam_Boots 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, the original model was scaled up for its role as the Jenolan. The window rows and bridge dome were added to visually represent the new scale for the ship and TMP style nacelles were added as well.
      The model was later reused upside-down as the USS Nash in 'Trials and Tribble-ations'.

    • @adamlytle2615
      @adamlytle2615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, pretty fundamental misunderstanding by the host. Sternbach would have started with the shape of the executive shuttle both for the in-universe reason that this could be the 24th century descendant of the executive shuttle, and also because he knew it might be possible for them to redress the executive shuttle model into the Runabout

  • @davidgiles4681
    @davidgiles4681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It was still the best "shuttle" ST ever had. If fit multiple missions and still could get people home.

    • @blackhawks81H
      @blackhawks81H 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If by best, you mean ugliest.. Then yes... Lol but in all honesty it was a super capable little ship. Only gripe I have with it is the looks. Even then it's really just that front end.. Those big recessed window dealies...Not only are they ugly and make the front of the ship look like a broken off USB plug. But imagine trying to fly the thing from the pilots seat behind the recessed windows with those big buttresses on either side... You'd basically be able to see up, and fairly well forward.. Big blind spot under the nose, and absolutely zero visibility to either side. Flight in busy areas, flight in and around Starbases and spscedocks, atmospheric flight.. Be an absolute nightmare. Be like trying to drive a big semi tractor-trailer with the side windows painted black. If they fixed that damn cockpit, I'd actually love this ship.. But that one glaring issue just kills it for me.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it’s technically not a shuttle, it’s a commissioned ship…they’re the smallest in the fleet, they have everything that you have on a larger ship except dedicated sickbays and engineering

    • @blackhawks81H
      @blackhawks81H 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bostonrailfan2427 Yeah you're absolutely correct. One of the ways you can tell this is that the runabouts are all properly named and have registry numbers:
      USS Rio Grande (NCC-72452) USS Rubicon (NCC-72936) USS Shenandoah (NCC-73024)
      Whereas shuttles might have "names", like Goddard, Galileo, etc. But those were pretty much nicknames. They were not commissioned (didn't possess the USS designation) nor did they have registry numbers, aside from some bearing the registry number of their mothership, just to show which ship they belonged to.

  • @dramaticwords
    @dramaticwords 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I suggest the runabouts are actually an evolution of the Eagle spacecraft shown in Space: 1999.

  • @biggles1852
    @biggles1852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Considering how often the people on DS9 are evacuated by runabout, my guess is that the “cargo module” is one giant open space with toilets!

    • @mstbeta
      @mstbeta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TOILETS?!?! How naive!!! You can obviously tell that they don't poop in the future if you look at all the shuttlecraft and the blueprints of the old Enterprise, The only reason there's a head on deck one of the the D is so that Worf can powder his nose between receiving communications and getting beat up by the enemy of the week!

    • @Johninadelaide2022
      @Johninadelaide2022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And a pee corner

    • @brianhillis3701
      @brianhillis3701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Johninadelaide2022 that is why Worf was always angry. They told him to pee in the corner and the bridge is round. He was always holding it.

    • @lillyanneserrelio2187
      @lillyanneserrelio2187 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought they inserted micro teleport catheters inside their um parts so their urine would get teleported directly out of the ship

  • @jonathanrivlin6248
    @jonathanrivlin6248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hilarious and informative.
    I wonder if Quark would trade in my 21 year old dodge minivan for one of these.

  • @asvarien
    @asvarien 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Starfleet hand phasers were supposed to have built in ID scanners that could tell if someone was authorised to use it or not. So how come we see so many instances where a ne'er-do-well person grabs a phaser and shoots a good guy with it? Also all phasers were supposed to be "locked" on stun mode while inside a starship, yet we often see them being used to kill people.

    • @joekalista3615
      @joekalista3615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      accomplices. Either the shooter got to the phasers before and reprogrammed them for later use, or someone else did it so that the shooter could grab them. And as for everone else on these starships, These people know how to program at age 5, and im sure they know the inner workings of how a phaser works. They reprogram them.

    • @asvarien
      @asvarien 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@joekalista3615 The correct answer is... the writers forgot that detail.

    • @haldyordan2316
      @haldyordan2316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asvarien true, it's 21st century now, companies and militaries made security countermeasures, unless the illegal users, op hackers....

    • @jeffumbach
      @jeffumbach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't recall that detail in the Technical Manual.

  • @Peaceforall20111
    @Peaceforall20111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome job, love the detail and attention to completeness

  • @alancohen5688
    @alancohen5688 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like these little ships from Star Trek Deep Throat 9

  • @simonwillis1529
    @simonwillis1529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Runabouts were pretty cool you could live in one yourself short term if you fitted it out right

  • @Bartonovich52
    @Bartonovich52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Interesting that the Sydney Class came about the same way the Corellian Corvette did.
    It was originally supposed to be the Millennium Falcon but looked too similar to a ship from a different series.. so it was rescaled and repurposed.
    Lots of design features remained, like what appeared to be oversized docking ports, dual turrets, a front facing cockpit, and lots of engines implying a fast ship.

    • @garylim2
      @garylim2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup. I saw that early M Falcon prototype too. An Eagle Transporter lookalike!

  • @dominichadley2712
    @dominichadley2712 ปีที่แล้ว

    Runabouts will always be my favourite of the lighter Starfleet Vessels! I love how compact and modular it is!

  • @MrBadwolf72
    @MrBadwolf72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It reminds me a bit of the Eagle from Space: 1999.

    • @sandrasandymanning4354
      @sandrasandymanning4354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @vonk1701: especially that part about the shuttle lift on DS9..the Eagle from Space: 1999 had that as well.

    • @MrBadwolf72
      @MrBadwolf72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sandrasandymanning4354 Good catch!

  • @peterjones3113
    @peterjones3113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always thought the runabout looked a bit stupid but your breakdown helps it make more sense (size/heritage/modularity/compromises). Still haven't sat down and watched DS9 properly so the video and lack of spoilers will make it more enjoyable. Thankyou :)

  • @pauljackson3491
    @pauljackson3491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Luckily Earth has a lot of rivers.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    They could have just stated that the top of the ship (covering the warp core) had ablative armour.
    And then have one scene where _armoured_ blow out panels with explosive bolts are shown detaching, and the warp core is *successfully* ejected 👏👏🖖

    • @zafranorbian757
      @zafranorbian757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ablative armour was first introduced in the mid seasons of DS9. So maybe as a refit for runabouts.

    • @LoneBrowncoat
      @LoneBrowncoat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ACK! I hate that Berman era term. In TMP its known as the Intermix Chamber, one dumb Starfleet move {if you own Geoffery Mandel's original cut-away, not Doug Drexler's, of the warp nacelle} was to relocate the anti-matter storage from right behind the bussard area to the belly[engineering, below the botanical section] of the Constitution refits, where sufficient pounding would deprive the m-am reactors of fuel, if not leading to be blown up at least. That were still inside the linear warp nacelles.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    7:04 the back center was made in a bit of embezzlement. TNG had budget left over and was wrapping up anyway. DS9 didn't have the budget for a new set... Soooo They made it for DS9 to use if needed. But the Defiant made the Runabouts sadly redundant.

  • @fmlazar
    @fmlazar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The interior compartments shown in that TNG movie turns the Runabout into a TARDIS.

  • @BrokenCurtain
    @BrokenCurtain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm pretty sure the runabouts had adjustable seats that were equipped with motors and/or pneumatics. After all, they had to be compatible with many different species with varying body shapes and sizes.
    At that point, adding a massage function is just a matter of programming.

  • @Rohirin
    @Rohirin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I would feel safer in a runabout than in an oberth or miranda class.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True that.

    • @valor1omega
      @valor1omega 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would feel safer in the Oberth and Miranda then the garbage hualers known as the defiant created by sisko.

    • @Rohirin
      @Rohirin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@valor1omega Good news! I just got done talking with the Admiralty! You're assigned to the very last Oberth in the fleet. Go get them Borg! XD

    • @Warutteri
      @Warutteri 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@valor1omega
      That doesn't make much since given that the Defiant class was actually one of the more successful starship (or more accurately warship) classes, specifically made for battle, sure it had some issues (mainly the insanely overpowered engines for a ship of its size, something that would have normally been installed in a ship about twice its size but given the demanding battle roles it was designed for having more power for nimble movement was kind of an prerequisite) but basically all of them eventually fixed or at the very least mitigated 🤔

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@valor1omega and that Oberth in question is a heap of junk with parts being used to keep it running.

  • @michaelmutranowski123
    @michaelmutranowski123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you missed the chance to use the clip from First Contact where Worf says "Little?!?"

  • @HereBeDragonsYT
    @HereBeDragonsYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    13.4 cm is not just over a foot long. A foot is about 30.5 cm. Sorry to "um, actually" you, but as an engineer, I just couldn't leave it alone lol. Still, fun and informative video.

    • @SirDimtris
      @SirDimtris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I came here to say this.

    • @noscwoh1
      @noscwoh1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He meant to say 13.4 inches. The scale in the scene is not metric.

  • @davidponseigo8811
    @davidponseigo8811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I love this ship for some reason.

  • @dragonstryk7280
    @dragonstryk7280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The recessed docking bays for the Runabouts on DS9 is a tactical concern. As long as they're inside the station, they're protected by the hull of the station around it. The runabouts are not, strictly speaking, military ships, though they do have defensive weapons in emergencies. That would be the job of the SS Pimp Hand.
    We actually use a similar model for Amphibious carrier, the LHD class I served on, where we would keep aircraft on the hangar deck, then raise them up to the main deck via lifts, where they could then be deployed. SO they are, in fact, based around an RL design used by the military.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ditto for every aircraft carrier, destroyer, frigate, LCS, cruiser, and medium endurance and high endurance cutter: they don’t store them on deck, they store them in the hanger and bring them out to deploy, via catapult or via takeoff

    • @clancykohl
      @clancykohl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The question seemed rather to be why they need a lift, because they can just go in any direction anyway. They even have elaborate autopilots that could do so with absolute precision. So why bother building such a lift? Just make a pit with doors and let them fly out of there by themselves, not unlike shuttle bays on any other starship that also don't feature any elaborate mechanism to deploy ships.

    • @dragonstryk7280
      @dragonstryk7280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@clancykohl Even with Harriers, which have VTOL, we still never let take off from the lifts, because of the lack of visibility arc if nothing else. When the shuttles let out of the Enterprise, for instance, the pilots can physically see where they're flying, so if something isn't popping up on their sensors, which take an extra second to read, they can immediately react to what's going on. coming up with the lift, they can see in all directions before committing to movement.
      Also, remember that the lifts came pre-installed by the Cardassians who built DS9. They weren't a federation build in all technical point.

  • @mephisto8101
    @mephisto8101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahem. Why is there a tonnage restriction for a lift on a space station? It's in zero gravity, after all.

  • @narraetsor
    @narraetsor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Sat Eins logo on some of the footage is honestly pretty nostalgic.

  • @Dima_Sen_
    @Dima_Sen_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Let’s just appreciate this man’s dedication for our entertainment. That was quite a wipeout 🙌🙌🙏🏻

  • @directeducation2890
    @directeducation2890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The modularity reminds of Space:1999's Eagle.

  • @TB0Seven
    @TB0Seven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What crash more Starbug from Red Dwarf or a Runabout?

  • @Adam_Boots
    @Adam_Boots 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Feature 11
    The nacelles transform into the same model as the type 6 shuttles on crash landing.

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha yeah i noticed that

    • @nathanieldaiken1064
      @nathanieldaiken1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Feature 12: Each nacelle is actually a set of paired warp generators, hence the oblong cross section.

  • @tamaspapp225
    @tamaspapp225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is an episode when Keiko complains to O'brien that it would be good leaning back the chairs to sleep. Later O'brien fixing this and they can use the seats for that. Or something like that happened with the chairs on the Runabout.

    • @mb2000
      @mb2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If only there was an entire living section on the ship!

  • @the_once-and-future_king.
    @the_once-and-future_king. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Re the lifts.
    Good luck landing in a sunken bay if the manoeuvring thrusters are not working. Easier to use a tractor beam to bring a runabout to a flat surface than have to change beam vector to insert the ship into a small bay.

  • @garylim2
    @garylim2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks British Ben. Great exposition. And as always, love your humour!

  • @gamingvibrations5320
    @gamingvibrations5320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best head movements I ever saw!

  • @Logarithm906
    @Logarithm906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    13.4 cm is about 5.3 inches, not 12 inches (a foot).
    Either the number's are wrong or them micro-torpedos were about the same length as a Sharpie (or a regular sized pen).

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah your right, we dont really understand the metric system very well

    • @cactusoft
      @cactusoft 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GenerationFilms "British Ben" should understand metric. Taught in UK schools from 70s when I was a kid. Check if he knows the offside rule, if not he's definitely an American imposter just putting on an accent.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GenerationFilms Divide centimetres by 2.54, and you have inches, basically.
      Just remember it's a foot for every twelve.

  • @mikefalderoff8236
    @mikefalderoff8236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You forgot that the Sydney class was a flipped upside down shuttle from ST 6 & 7

  • @marshallhetchler4830
    @marshallhetchler4830 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the size comparison, pretty awesome

  • @simondenny7801
    @simondenny7801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it just me or when jettisoned does the cockpit module look like the zero-x nose from the old thunderbirds movie?

    • @mb2000
      @mb2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The big pointy chrome part that took longer to attach before takeoff than it was actually used for!?

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, the bit under the chrome nosecone...
      Plus was seen in the Captain Scarlet premiere.

  • @Bartonovich52
    @Bartonovich52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The person who signed off on the Danube Class warp core placement was seconded from Starship Bridge Design.
    Seriously. Ancient naval vessels only used a ‘bridge’ for navigation in port and close to land. In battle they had an armoured conning tower set well under the superstructure or several stations well below the waterline.

    • @Groza_Dallocort
      @Groza_Dallocort 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suppose you are talking in the 24th century way of ancient now because ships during the roman empire did not have conning towers heck I would say armored conning towers wasent a thing until WWI WWII era

  • @thethan302
    @thethan302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The runabout is the perfect ship for space stations or colonies. They allow characters to hop on over to the other side of the planet, or travel to the next system over without any difficulty. Heck they're even armed so they can be used to scare off raiders especially if you have multiple of them. I can imagine it's typically standard procedure to leave a handful of these ships on stations or colonies for general use so Deep space nine getting a few wouldn't be seen as anything special by most of command.
    i imagine a colony that manages to survive to get fully up and running would be able to build their own. Seeing as the federation has a pretty poor track record when it comes to colonies.

  • @RurouniKalainGaming
    @RurouniKalainGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome stuff indeed, learned some new things, thanks! Subscribed.

  • @James-bw4np
    @James-bw4np 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I actually had the Runabout toy. When I was in High School, I actually used it in my economics class as a product I was selling. Probably a great thing for the civilian side to have but was sub par for Starfleet use. Like the USA military using a Ford Ranger (the runabout) instead of an up armor Humvee (Defiant)

    • @tba113
      @tba113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well, they are _runabouts,_ after all. IRL, that class of vessel covers small powered boats holding less than a dozen people, like center-console fishing boats and such. They're not really meant for much more than being a step up from a basic transport with some expanded capabilities. In Starfleet service, they're designed to supplement true starships, not replace them.

    • @James-bw4np
      @James-bw4np 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tba113 so even in the future, the military still buys from the lowest bidder...

    • @sigmasquadleader
      @sigmasquadleader 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Civilian Hummer

    • @tba113
      @tba113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@James-bw4np Since Starfleet doesn't use money, I guess they don't have much other choice.

    • @James-bw4np
      @James-bw4np 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sigmasquadleader the current civilian hummers (H3) are supposedly just GMC/ Chevy Suburban frames with a "hummer" body on top. They definitely don't share the same shock absorber system anymore!

  • @jldyr2
    @jldyr2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the warp core was positioned like the gas tank was on a Ford Pinto.

  • @Tobiasfowler
    @Tobiasfowler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s a good thing that Earth has a lot of rivers.

  • @darrellmillner930
    @darrellmillner930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top notch review, Thank You. Great material

  • @Razorgeist
    @Razorgeist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh yes my favorite small Star Trek ship and favorite small ship in sci Fi in general. Fun fact the Runabout later inspired the design of the La Sirena in Picard...seriously look at it it's an upscaled Runabout.

  • @daverage4729
    @daverage4729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One feature....it crashes - a lot!!! Ah the Danube Class Runabout...Star Treks answer to Space 1999's Eagle Transporter (although not as cool as the Eagle)

  • @JennyEverywhere
    @JennyEverywhere 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone in second Life built a Danube Runabout as a modular kit with a bunch of upgrade modules. I have the kit, and it's a remarkably complete system. It even has a transporter that works very well (with the inclusion of transporter parts from another resident's product). I have a Runabout over my rented private island in Second Life.
    YES, Second Life is still in operation! It's still got a lot of users. I've been in Second Life for over 14 years now.

    • @fixman88
      @fixman88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too, 14+ years and counting! Could you *please* tell me where you got the Runabout from? Marketplace or in-world (or both)?
      Fixy Fluffpaw is my account name.

  • @honymonster30
    @honymonster30 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Runabout lift always made me think of the Eagle lifts from Space 1999

  • @78.BANDIT
    @78.BANDIT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always saw the runabouts kinda like the old PT Boats of WW2. Tough little ships. If I were in the Star Trek Universe I get one for myself.

  • @seapappy9183
    @seapappy9183 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I were living in the Star Trek universe, I think a Runabout is the ship I’d want as my own personal ship… small enough to land wherever I need to land, fast enough to get around where ever I’d need to go, living quarters, transporter, replicators, armed… yeah, I’d be okay!

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job and very interesting for me.
    Thank you.

  • @daniellafferety4025
    @daniellafferety4025 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warp drive shuttels with comand/ escape pod brige with amenity like bathrooms, kitchen, and sleeping 8 crew members which means a lounge, and multiplework stations. and limited backup wepons that can eject from damaged warp core. Multiple plot armore wepons,tools pods. This was the replacement of the enterprise for D.S.9. First season. I wish we had seen all the features used. Especially the liveing/ sleeping quarts. Or a replicater seen with steak and potatoes. This would be interesting.

  • @NostalgiaBrit
    @NostalgiaBrit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *_STAR TREK_** IS LIFE!*
    Sorry, got a bit carried away there, but you get my point! 🥳

  • @MoonjumperReviews
    @MoonjumperReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome breakdown. I was always annoyed that we never got to see the aft compartment except in one episode of TNG (where it wasn’t even a hero ship) and never in DS9 (where it was the main hero ship prior to the Defiant). That never made any sense. Did they create that set for that one episode on TNG, then immediately tear it down? WTH?
    As I recall, I believe the initial idea for the aft compartment was also that it could have mission specific, plug and play configurations-much like the Eagle shuttles from Space: 1999.
    I agree that, yes, the runabouts could rise out of the landing bays without the lift, however I would also tend to think that lifting them up, clear of any internal structures, does add an additional level of safety.

    • @ericpaul4575
      @ericpaul4575 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would say that runabout was a hero ship as it sacrificed itself to save the Enterprise.

    • @MoonjumperReviews
      @MoonjumperReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericpaul4575 - True, it was a hero ship in that particular episode. What I mean is, as a general rule, it was not a regular main "hero ship" of that particular series (TNG). It was, however, a main hero ship of "Deep Space Nine" - which makes it ironic and strange for TNG to show us a major portion of the runabout's interior (as a one-off), and yet never--not once--reveal it on DS9. That's kind of weird.

  • @MetaSynForYourSoul
    @MetaSynForYourSoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:31 Nog: FIRE PHASERS!!!
    Jake: *"NIGGA WUT?!" look

  • @Digikidthevoiceofreason
    @Digikidthevoiceofreason 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love those little ships

  • @felixalbrecht7784
    @felixalbrecht7784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So basically the Runabout was Thunderbird 2?

  • @lexyleighmalinowski4136
    @lexyleighmalinowski4136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm currently sitting in my vehicle chilling outside in nature watching the video with a massage pad and heat together on my back they can replicate the ability for a massage pad and heater

  • @benjaminrobledo5466
    @benjaminrobledo5466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Agahahhajajhhhhhhh"
    - Mirror Admiral Quinn, STO.

  • @Dantes74302
    @Dantes74302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #9 and 10. So, basically, it was like the Eagle Transport.

  • @kevingluys3063
    @kevingluys3063 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The core is on top so that it doesn't explode when you crash.
    It's a safety feature for a definitely very safe craft.

  • @SPatrickRoss
    @SPatrickRoss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the reason for the Lifts on DS9 was a subtle nod to the Runabout's inspiration... The Eagle from Space 1999.

  • @danteunknown2108
    @danteunknown2108 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome intro lol. I personally love the Runabouts more than any other class in the franchise with only the Defiant being a super duper close second. If I were in the Trek universe I'd love to skipper one of these and just be a federation space trucker. I think the warp core exposed thing was just saying it's basically it's own shield generator by directly dumping power out. Might explain the warp 5 as it was dumping energy into a localized super shield?

  • @justfrank5661
    @justfrank5661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I secretly wished the runabouts were real and that I could own one ☝️ like a modern day yacht 🛥 or a Winnebago lol 😆

  • @cliffcorson4000
    @cliffcorson4000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reason for the "lift" is like many items that is could be used as stock footage

  • @krisgonynor689
    @krisgonynor689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the biggest unanswered question for Alan is: did the Runabout have a bathroom? I assume if they have a bunk room they must have a restroom along with a shower. Also some type of mini medical bay, even if just one of the bunks that could be converted into a medpod and hold someone injured in stasis until they reach base.
    Personally, I would have designed it with the warp power system on the bottom of the ship, sort of like how electric cars and trucks have a base filled with batteries. Easier to cover with hull armour, which could double as re-entry shielding. If possible, two mini warp cores, one per drive unit, for more redundancy as well as extra power.
    I also assume they didn't use thrusters to lift off of DS9 as the heat may melt the older non Starfleet built station as well as add an unwanted downward movement to the stationary station. One launch wouldn't move it much, but multiple launches over years of service would have - and I doubt DS9 had inertial dampeners or similar equipment to deal with that issue.

    • @mikecrownshaw1646
      @mikecrownshaw1646 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The episode where they moved the station answers the questions

    • @nathanieldaiken1064
      @nathanieldaiken1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They first moved Terok Nar (DS9) in the first/second episode of season one. They had to move it again during the Dominion War. The structural integrity fields had to be enhanced as the staton was not built as a spaceship.

    • @mb2000
      @mb2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanieldaiken1064 I’m sure it was only moved in the pilot, not during the Dominion War.

  • @sseltrek1a2b
    @sseltrek1a2b 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    still one of my favorite ship designs...

  • @Agent_1701-D
    @Agent_1701-D 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As time passes, I have become much more fond of the runabout. It is most definitely flexible with its functions, as well as its higher warp capabilities compared to small craft, including shuttles. And as we see on TNG, it can function as a captain’s personal yacht (aside from the actual yacht).
    And it’s a shame that the rear compartment didn’t survive past that one TNG episode. I could see several scenes on that set that could’ve happened, had it not been marked to be struck.
    It is a fantastically utilitarian design. Everything you need in a compact version of a starship, especially with respect to warp speed, so it can proceed quicker to a destination compared to a snail’s pace of a shuttle.

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say that the runabout is perhaps my favourite ship because it fulfils a similar role to the raptor from BSG but does it better due to the universe it's in. The runabout is like a detached bungalow that's rigged for combat but it only narrowly beats the LAAT for the place in my nerdy little heart, the LAAT being like an heavy attack winnebago.

  • @dannyjones1639
    @dannyjones1639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The lifting of The Runable is like In SPACE 1999 Eagle Launch

  • @craigw.scribner6490
    @craigw.scribner6490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thanks!

  • @mixonken4236
    @mixonken4236 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a professional job

  • @Turboy65
    @Turboy65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm amused that the British, who have no space program of their own, are some of the most rabid fans of space based science fiction.

    • @FirstDan2000
      @FirstDan2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet the runabout is right-hand drive.

  • @tardiscommand1812
    @tardiscommand1812 ปีที่แล้ว

    They’d make a really cool back yard man cave

  • @jasonsnider7605
    @jasonsnider7605 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The part launched from the Millennium Falcon in "Solo" was an "after-market" escape pod added by Lando, not in integral part of the ship. So the parallels between in and the Defiant's "emergency warhead" (as I call it) only go so far.

  • @LuisVazquez-hx3bk
    @LuisVazquez-hx3bk ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember, in a STG episode, the Federation regulated the warp seed from warp 9 to warp 5. Only in emeegensis they could go faster because some subspace contamination of space, like today we are trying to reduce carbon emition on the atmosfear.

    • @SportyMabamba
      @SportyMabamba 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but that was later soft retconned by being allowed to lapse. In-universe, they fixed the issue that was causing the Sub-space damage above W5.

  • @terrencechilds8984
    @terrencechilds8984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow take about work hard and not stammer this is what you do for a living man you really know what you are doing

  • @jacksonheathen2092
    @jacksonheathen2092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These Danube class runabouts were sure better than the flying shoe box shuttles in TNG.