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- In this video I tested Techron Concentrate Plus by Chevron. I use a mini borescope camera to look into the engine and see how dirty the engine is before the fuel treatment and then after the fuel treatment.
I followed the instructions on the container and Techron performed similarly to gumout. This is the third test in a series of fuel cleaner test I will be performing to see how fuel cleaners work and if they actually work.
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This is 9 year old video (and a great one), yet you are still checking /responding to comments. You are really an amazing dude, Chris
You get pd for the this comment? Lmao . Kidding.
wow this guy worked harder on this video than the product worked on the engine.
the product got no hands and cris hot two so no surprise 😊
@@tagminda4565 bro what
@@annex4904hands
@@annex4904he's saying Chris has two hands, and the bottle doesn't.
Try Redline fuel system cleaner its far better & proven. *Better yet fill up every time w/ Top Tier rated fuels . They have much more additives/detergents than required by fed law minimums* . Google list of certified top tier rated gas ⛽️ stations. Maybe Chris can expand on this topic in future a video. Seems best way to go vs counting on bottle of *any product* every 3-5k mis. Especially in modern GDI/GTDI engines like in my trusty '20 Ranger XLT FX4 w/its excellent gen2 - 2.3L engine.
Chris I got to hand it to you. I know these test you do take a lot of effort to show us real world results. Great video thanks.
I've seen a bunch of these. sea foam probably worked best but none are really worth it imo
Most of these products are more preventive care. They never really take you from bad to great. Use it from the start
Thanks a lot!
ChrisFix try Amsoil fuel cleaner next I know it’s been some time since you’ve done something like this but I’d love to see some older styled videos sometime
@@blainekelvin6383 You are a sad little virgin
$20 for 10 gallons wow how the times have changed
I just bought it for $10 for 12 gallons.
Gas where I live is $3.40 😒
@@newstart1586 I believe he was talking about the price per bottle to how many gallons of gas it treats
Gas here is roughly 2.95 though at the moment
$6.02
Thanks for taking the time to test so many products and show actual results with real friendly commentary. Also, thanks for showing that we are not wasting our time by helping others, in what ever way it might be.
SuperCal No problem! I am glad you like the videos! Seafoam will be tested very soon as well as cleanboost maxx!
As with your Gumout test, again your evaluation was done showing all the steps taken and even shows the inside of the motor's cylinders for viewers to see for themselves. Nice job & thank you for taking your time to produce & post such informative videos. They're especially helpful to someone such as myself that has always been interested as to IF these products really clean or make a difference in the engine yet not having the equipment or know how to find out for myself continued to wonder until seeing your videos. Great work & can't wait to view more of your informative videos so that I can see the proof with my own eyes!!
First class analysis of everything you do Chris well done for helping us DIY mechanics.
Thanks for all your efforts Chris, much appreciated!
Finally, a great video from an intelligent young man who doesn't just want to make an unnecessarily long video about nothing. Great job, Chris! I look forward to seeing the rest of your videos!
By the time I finish all the fix it videos, my 2000 explorer will be completely rebuilt
They are literally so many components to an engine for the rebuild chris Hasn't covered.
+RzVids Because it takes time. And even he is still learning
+Agent WK I know, he hasn't made all the videos yet.
ChrisFix not fix it
*ChrisFix, try's to fix it.
Hi Chris, i love your channel its simple to understand for a non mechanic, great job keep it up👍
It works. I used 1 bottle on my 95 VW Beetle. It was vibrating alot in idle and 2nd, 3rd gear would be noisy. After a full tank used up, it turned into a Audi R8 and runs now better than ever! Go Techron!
Marko Vučilovski
Impressive 😂
Says techtron rep:)
You probably cleaned out your Injectors. Less related to cylinder head carbon clean up.
You think it’ll turn my Miata into an RX-7?
It works for every car I've had old gas or whatever . This product , seafoam and Marvel mystery oil all do Good jobs oh and Lucas too
saw a techron ad on FB and thought I would see if you had anything to say about it. thank you for the work you do.
Glad the video was helpful! I have been seeing the same ads.
@@chrisfix ok
and that explains why some people only fill up at Chevron gas stations; where every tank already has Techron in it. I always thought it was about removing moisture from the gas tank. I didn't know it cleaned too.
Chevron is the best
They call it a detergent gasoline.
I have a Lincoln MKS Eco-boost. I've been told that using Chevron fuel is the best fuel for the Ford Eco-boost engine. I've also added a oil catch can on the car. And I run an Italian tune up every time I drive it. Don't know if any of these things really help or not I haven't checked the pistons.
I've also have been told the last thing you want to happen in a turbo charged y is for a chunk of carbon to get into the turbo charger as it can do alot of damage.
I am retired from the high line car business in California. Did you know that every single Car maker uses Chevron gasoline when doing their emissions testing for both mileage and all of the rest of the things California looks at ?
The more you know
Thanks for taking the time to do all of that it’s much appreciated
This product works! After running Techron high mileage with several tanks of premium fuel, the car starts right up and idles smoothly. Driving away it does so without hesitation or bucking. I used this product in several tanks of premium fuel in my 1998 Mercedes-benz C230 with 258,000 miles on the odometer, was having issues starting right away, would not idle smoothly when cold, and would falter when accelerating.
Before the treatments, starting would sometimes require a couple of tries. Once warmed up it was okay the rest of the day but gas mileage wasn't as good as it had been. Today, it's now back up to 28 miles per gallon.
Interesting, thanks for sharing!!
Chris, your videos are awesome! Very informative and you give actual evidence instead of analyses based on biased feelings. I think you have proven that Techron is too ambitious with its "immediate result" claims, but over time I think it has the ability to have a positive result on the majority of the fuel system when used somewhat frequently. I used it recently on my Durango with over 200,000 miles. I poured an entire bottle into 1/4 tank of gas to see if it would help with a rough idle (the truck would even stall at times). It was also throwing an engine misfire code. After going through the 1/4 tank, the rough idle problem disappeared along with the misfire code. 5 months and a few thousand miles later, the issue has not come back. As proven by your video, my fuel system is likely not squeaky clean, but in a much better state than it was. This was meant to be a hail mary before diving into ignition and fuel delivery components, and it has paid off so far. Techron contains a detergent called PEA, which from what I understand is one of the most effective fuel detergents available on the consumer market. I think it would be worth testing Red Line SI-1 as I think it has a higher concentration of PEA than Techron. It would be interesting to see if it has more immediate thorough results than the Techron.
Nice test but I think this stuff is more for cleaning the injectors out instead of the built up carbon with the combustion chamber and on the intake valves (on DI motors). I tried this stuff some years ago by soaking clogged fuel injectors that were removed from the engine for 12 hours in a small bowl of this stuff. The injectors were really clean after the 12 hour soak and worked beautifully when put back on the car.
Djonkie Bonk Thanks for sharing!
Yeah I agree with this guy. Better for injectors. DI (Direct Inject Motors) are plagued with carbon issues. Although they generally perform better when clean. This may buy some time or help keep them in shape, but 93 Octane should be of help as well. DI motors shouldn’t run less than 91 but people do it. Mini Coopers suffer badly from carbon build up. End of story is nothing will prevent the Walnut Blasting. But this may buy time or take care of a mild issue on a newer car etc. The problem with DI is the fuel will never hit the back of the valve. So neither will this stuff. It’ll still help in other areas although.
On the R56 Mini Cooper S generally 60k+ you’ll need Walnut Blasting. Every car is different but that’s usually how quick the Carbon builds on those cars. Depends on fuel and driving habits. I’m a MINI guy.
Still think Techron is a safe cheap way to go. But it’s probably going to do more for injectors less for pistons and absolutely nothing for the back of a valve on a DI car.
At $5 it’s buying some time if used every so often or on a over night soak. Some people never notice the carbon issues till your losing power or burning a valve. So that’s the other problem.
The valves in a MINI are tough. Forget what they used. But they are tough because of the DI. It’s not just MINI either BMW in general. Carbon nightmare. Lol.
We should also do a test on hard highway driving. I bet that helps contribute to how well Techron will clean.
Seafoam I’ve used on a VW soaking cylinders over night. Used MMO before as well. Overnight soaks help a lot. But the back of a valve on DI car *sigh* Walnut Blasting lol.
DI cars are a carbon nightmare. But they do perform better. Ethanol and gas in America is a problem for them as well. Ethanol good for environment hurts your nice BMW. The DME ECU can adapt. But I always tell people run 93. Won’t stop the problem but it’ll slow it way down.
I can go on forever. Overall like the test. Good video and I chimed in to this guy when he said DI, then soaking in Techron. Agree 100%.
We will see more DI motors before electric as well. I think Ford has plans to do it. Ford Traded EcoBoost with Mercedes Benz for DI technology etc. Walnut Blasting is already something dealers are getting into.
@@ksull72487 thanks for your detailed post! I just bought a Mini with 76k miles. Any heads up you can give on what to look out for when I shop around for Walnut Blasting? (upper limit on price, who not to trust to do it properly, things the mechanic might say that should be red flags to stay away, etc)
You (and your editing team?) are an EXCELLENT Video-tographer, with a great and easy to understand speaking voice. I'd hope you would consider making a career as a speaker.
I no nothing about car maintenance, but to support your efforts to independently test products, I gave you a THUMBS-UP and SUBSCRIBED.
After years of watching TH-cam informational videos, yours was ABSOLUTELY * THE * BEST I've ever seen.
I have been using this on my motorcycle for years. Before it goes into storage for the winter. I fill the tank after and she is perfect till next spring. Never any issues starting her.
Awesome test! Thanks for such a well done and informative investigation!!!
Thank you for the test, and detailed comparisons!
Great video! Love the use of the scope. Boss told me the other day I should get one, now really considering it. Thanks for providing a link to the model you used!
From my experience as a retired master tech, that wouldn't consist of any significant amount of carbon buildup. Those products are for really gummed up pistons and valves with caked on carbon which typically came from carbureted vehicles and their lack of thorough atomization. You really don't see the amount of carbon build up that we saw in the past unless you have leaky valve seals and plugged up injectors. But even with today's fuel additives in the gasoline, this counters a lot of this.
Would this product be good for dirty fuel injectors ?
@@alanrivas2950 yup!
Go back to tech school ....we all know this was a test no a recomendation
Direct Injection engines are really prone to heavy build up so its really for direct injection engines. My dodge which is Sequential Multiport Fuel Injection is really prone to clogged injectors if the fuel has any kind of contaminants at all and had one get plugged so badly the dealer had to pop open the engine to get it fixed.
@PilsPlease you're correct. Due to the way direct injection engines work, detergent and other cleaning agents added to fuel are unable to clean the port and valve as they should. A master tech should know something like that... then again the Caddilac master tech I deal with is not the most knowledgeable either...💯🤷🏻♂️😆
The fact that there are slight changes, means it works a bit.
One bottle of this before every oil change is probably enough to maintain the fuel nozzles. Cleaning the whole chamber is another story, no other "safe" cleaner will make it shinny.
It's the fuel injectors are more important to me.
Thanks for this video!
How often can one use fuel additives??? I hear fuel injection cleaners can be used frequently --- like almost every gas stop..
While fuel system cleaners can only be used once in awhile because it is potent??
@@jamespak8175 I don’t use additives. I just use TierOne certified gas. It has more than enough detergent to keep engines clean.
The cleaner, just once with the last full tank of gas before an oil change. Usually with an “Italian tune-up”.
Too much of it can destroy the catalytic converter.
Thanks for the testing. I personally had been using this on a couple tank fills because of slight knocking from using Arco premium which I was told was not the right gas to use on my Sky Redline. So I started buying Chevron premium and I used the Techron concentrated fuel system cleaner. After 2 full tank fills of using it, It did fix the very slight knocking I was having. Not sure if it was from just changing the fuel to Chevron premium or was it the Concentrate Plus additive. Possibly both solved the issue of the knocking. So no more Arco for me.
Some people believe in using Top Tier gas!
You need to read the fuel compression ratio of your car regular gasoline causes your cars engine to knock because what you put on your car may not be on the recommended compression ratio
Regular gas are easier to
burn and that causes the knocking sound
premium gas are harder to
burn
Note that you must also check the recommended Ron of your car
@@VincentScales Arco is Tier 1 gas......
I have a 2005 Corolla. I tried 20oz. of Techron Complete Fuel System Cleaner on an empty tank 4 days ago. Then I had to fuel again today. I got 30.5 mpg from 26.1 mpg (from last time's fueling).
How many times did you use?
What an awesome series of videos. You are settling the debate guys have had for years on snake oil versus helpful products. I have had Techron actually help with injector issues but I never thought of it for cleaning carbon out of cylinders. I'll always left that to Seafoam.
How often can one use fuel additives??? I hear fuel injection cleaners can be used frequently --- like almost every gas stop..
While fuel system cleaners can only be used once in awhile because it is potent??
i used 2 bottles of Techron in my 2009 Toyota Prius because it had sludged/carborized rings and was burning oil at a furious rate 1qt 1k miles. after a couple treatments of Techron it stopped burning oil, MPG went up, and ran so much smoother. techron saved my motor from the junkyard and not just mine many prius owners have saved their engines thanks to this and MMO.
I first used Techron just after its introduction as a fuel additive to Chevron fuel. I first used it in a 1970 Porsche 914 with a 1.7L motor that I had to drag home. I cleaned out the gas tank and filled it with Chevron regular with Techron, pulled the injectors, all four were stuck closed. I freed them up by pushing the pintles against piece 2X4and got it to start, The motor loped and ran very rough, but after ten minutes it started to run smoothly and the throttle response was very good. It became a daily driver with nothing more than new tires. With respect to this test, one or two bottles of Techron will not give the results that a long term use of the Chevron gas with Techron will do. It is too much to expect the product to perform with such a limited exposure as this test.
Glad to know someone did a review with before and after photos and a snake camera inspection. These companies make claims to increase their sales without proof. So glad you took the time to make it.
Chris , I have an older Corvette and a 17 GMC, when they have a little bit of a miss I put in a bottle of Techron and it really smooths out the engine. I think the best thing this stuff does is clean out the fuel injectors.
For the winter I have a 96 Grand Cherokee with the 5.2 with now 145,000 and I do use 2 bottles maybe 3 or 4 times a year, it does seem to clean the injectors as it runs smoother. I bought it used many years ago and sometimes it ran a bit rough so after a few tanks 2 bottles the injectors were cleaner as it ran smoother, that's MY personal experience.I try to buy that stuff when on sale, also use premium fuel only
Hi chrisfix - I liked your video. As far as removing carbon from an engine goes, keep in mind that, in many cases, it takes years for that carbon to build up. Yes, you probably already knew that it would take longer, but wanted to prove it. Job well done.
I have been driving for over 60 years, I am now 75 years old, and have never ever had any problems with engines, fuel injectors, or fuel systems. Twice a year, once in the June, and once in December, since I was 21 yesrs old, I added 6 to 8 bottles of fuel injector cleaner twice a year, to every vehicle i have ever owned including cars and trucks, fours, sixes, and eights included. Yes, yes, I know, they usually say one bottle for twenty gallons, or one bottle for each fill up. Yes, i have spent my entire life looking outside the box, if you know what I mean, with great success. If you look outside your paradym of beliefs, you will amaze yourself with new disoveries, and find suprising opportunuties for yourself.
My plugs after100,000 miles usually look new, and there was minimal carbon build up on any of the vehicles I have ever owned. Of course, I change my own oil and oil filter every 3,000 miles, and the other filters once or twice a year, and I do not abuse my vehicles. Over my 60 years of driving only once did i ever break down on the road.
When I told a friends how much injector clearer i used, they couldn't believe it, and no, I have never damaged any electrical or mechanical parts by using more than what the manufacturers recommend The reason I use as much as I do is to saturate the gas with injector cleaner so the cleaner is strong enough to do some intense cleaning of the mechanical parts. I know some experts would flip out, but the benefit is well proven over 60 years of actual results, and not from someones theory of what would happen. In life there is yada, yada, yada, and there is going out there and doing it, period. And by the way, I cannot remember the last time any of my vehicle ran rough.
P.S. keep up the good work.
JN1942
Well done! I wish I had your energy…and patience.
For one car try putting in one bottle at every month end and with fuel tank not more than 3/4. This might be better.
In your case buying in gallons is cheaper. 😂😂😂
I have used Techron x 3 times. Each time I had it added one to two tanks before my regular 10k servicing so as to also flush out the carbon during oil changed. It actually worked. From 600km per tank I was able to keep seeing improvement to my fuel consumption every single servicing until I hit a maximum of 725km. And the car feels great when accelerating. Maybe u should test it this way.
Same here. I just started using this for the first time and I am already feeling a difference. Specifically when the engine is idling. The engine operates much smoother than before. I have a GDI engine so I am not expecting great results in regards to the intake valves; however, the engine does fee drastically smoother. I plan to use it two more times before the year is over.
I think Techron does what the label says it is a fuel system cleaner and I think in that capacity it works great and I've had it fix problems that I've had with injectors and fuel system. But I never expected it to clean carbon out of a cylinder.
@@Raymasseyus Exactly. It's more of a injector cleaner, not valves or piston carbon.
@@johnwagner4559 I think they do claim that in the cardboard attached to the bottle. They deserve to be shown up.
@@mackfar27 I used this in my 4Runner recently, I added 2 bottles to a full tank of gas. The difference is VERY noticeable. I notice when going up hill, it no longer downshifts. I can ride the entire expressway at or under 2000 RPM at 70mph. Usually the hills it would downshift in order to keep up that speed. It just seems so much smoother now. It's a 2006 with 86,400 miles.
Use a double concentration, add a 12 oz bottle to 6-7 gallons then drive til its near empty. Fill up and add another bottle according to instructions. I did this to my 15 yr old Ridgeline and it made a huge improvement in the engine performance. It honestly surprised me.
Keep these videos coming! My daughter said “yes” to a Valvoline “fuel service” additive that cost her $20 in addition to her oil change. If it worked as well as the Techron did, she got robbed. I told the that next time she should just pick up a bottle of fuel additive at the auto store or Walmart. Same crap, less money. Hope you can test the Valvoline brand. I’d love to be proven wrong, but I doubt that I would be. 😕
I have used the Techron and I gotta say it made it significant difference. I have an 08 Jaguar XJ8L Vanden Plas 4.2l. I will probably run another treatment. I really enjoy the stuff. I heard the best is to use Lucas LUC10013 10013 Fuel Treatment. This can be used every other tank and is great for stabilizing the gas as well as keeping everything clean, as they have increased the amount of Ethanol in gas. I use premium 91. Great video.
WOW one of the best reviews of a product ever…reviews like this could really save people money
Another great Chris FIX vid, thanks for what you do bro!
How dare you shine that light in my face in 2020! Great vid man! Cheers
Sorry! :p thanks a lot!
Hey ! Cris, Thank you again !
Thank you so much for taking time and effort to do a painful test like this..appreciated..
Thank you Chris for your time and help. Your very good at what you do. 😀 👌
The test method may be faulty. My understanding is; Techron should be used in conjunction with many "start - run - cool down - start - run - cool down" periods when using the product. The carbon cleaner soaks into the carbon when the engine is cooling/cold, and when the engine heats up again, the carbon falls off. Also, super concentrating the solution (1 bottle in a few gallons of gas) is not recommended, probably because the Techron gets no time to slake into the carbon, before it gets pushed out of the combustion chamber - even though it is concentrated, it's working time is greatly reduced.
excellent
10 gallons for 20 bucks! 😭 I miss those days! Damn you 2018
Lel im in cali its been 12 years since i could get 10 gallons for 20 10 gallons is 40-45 bucks fml
That's like 30p a litre, madness. It's nearly £1.30/litre in the UK, 99p is the cheapest I remember it being in recent memory
Come to cali $45 for 10 gallon 😂😂😂
come to europe and buy yourself 1l or 0.264 gallons for about 1.40€. thats about 5.30€ or 5.86$ for a gallon
Gas is $1.82 for us. WE are Native American. WE DONT PAY ANY TAXES! EVER! ON ANYTHING!
(Thank you Uncle Sam)
Man too much hard work. One like for your hard work.
I think the key to see with a lot of these fuel system cleaners is its best to start early in the life of your vehicle. I think if you did 1 every 3000-5000 miles it probably prevents the hard build up. Over 150K miles it would cost you about $300. Idk if it is worth it but it seems cheap enough to be worth a shot.
I worked in a foreign car repair shop as a suspension mechanic.
I watched one of the engine mechanics put a bottle of Techron in a Jaguar that was idling roughly.
We went to lunch, and left the car running at a high idle.
When we came back, it was running smoothly.
Techron works, and I use it every other fill up.
I have spark plugs with 80,000 miles on them and they look brand new.
Dam strait. Stuff is legit. One of 2 products like this that I can actually say make a hugr difference
Techron and Marvel Mystery Oil. GREAT STUFF!
I’ve had good results in mpg with the Redline fuel additive that’s a few bucks more than the Techron. I’d be interested to see the same kind of video for that product as well, if you’re ever inclined to do so...Thanks for the upload!
Red line is good✓✓ probably one of or the best available,,that's what I'm using next.
I used this stuff while on a road trip and it actually made a noticeable difference in MPG. Not anything significant but did get slightly better MPG
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to perform this test and to post. Can you test BG44K ?
+Xavier Lemos thanks! Bh44k is on the list!
ChrisFix
I don't think the complete fuel system is to clean the piston surface. It's supposed to clean the valves and fuel injectors.
I gotta say I bought a bottle of this stuff and I THINK it worked for my optima... I had rough idling from time to time and after adding a bottle of this stuff and nearly half a tank of gas, my idles are smooth as butter.
You are the most trusted mechanic I go to for help. Thank you for all the advice and I hope to learn more from you. ☮️
Thank you Bro for the effort and dedication. We appreciated it very much.
This definitely helped with my MPGs. I have a 2003 Honda CRV which was getting about 280miles to the tank at best, sometimes worse. Usually 130-140 miles to a half tank. I used the Techron and on my second tank I had 180 miles for the half tank. Still going so far. I'll update what my final miles for the tank ends up at. My guess is the fuel injectors were blocked up. That was my main issue not necessarily carbon build up. I did notice that my MPGs went down big time after using Seafoam. About 1 month after I had to replace both 02 sensors in the cat. I wont use seafoam again.
How often can one use fuel additives??? I hear fuel injection cleaners can be used frequently --- like almost every gas stop..
While fuel system cleaners can only be used once in awhile because it is potent??
Techron is basically a fuel injector cleaner, but it it will clean up injectors, and fuel pump strainer, and fuel rail etc etc but almost do nothing in the cilinders chambers
It says on the packaging that it removes carbon from cylinder head and piston tops. I guess you could have saved us a lot of wasted time watching this video.
Can you test Amsoil P.i. Performance Improver Gasoline Additive please. =D
Sir where will all the dirt go?
(Chevron)Techron is one of largest (Fuel and oil)additives company like Afton, Lubrizol, Infineum. Almost all additives come from 4 companies. So.. yes. I've assumed to be better than the others
@@amir3992 that would've been burned out in combustion chamber
I was having some startup issues with my 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland. I used the Techron treatment and didn't have anymore startup issues. I did two treatments instead of one.
Every car owners around the world should subscribe to your channel. This is my go to channel for anything that I want to know about cars.
Probably better to get a close up of the valves. That is where a lot of buildup occurs. Checking the pistons may not reveal all that much, because one would expect buildup to be there.
oh wow Techron just made the carbon build up shinier
Thank you for your most interesting and informative experiment.
God video and demo Chris. I have used Techron when it's on sale, but I usually run B12 Chemtool, or Redline Fuel System treatment every 3,000 to 5,000 miles to mainly clean the fuel injectors.
The key is long term to be using a good quality fuel from some TTG station and a high quality synthetic oil in the crank case. If you take majority short trips and idle the engine more than running it under load as it was intended to then you will eventually end up with a poor running engine
Very well put! I agree with you wholeheartedly!!! You are correct sir!!!
I've run 5 tanks worth of techron in my caddy, and can say it has improved gas mileage and got the scale off the pump and gauge sending unit works better and the pump is responding quicker in pressure rise.
Christopher Saylock does work.
This is such BS 😂
Great videos Chris. Wish you did some more videos on medium duty / diesel trucks.
Not sure if this was already asked but were you able to look at the injectors as well?
Sorry, I'm like 5yrs late from this video but I'm working through your videos and have subscribed already...
You've helped me a lot already...
About 20 years sgo, I used a product named Greased Lightening in my gas tank. It did a very, very great job in restoring power to the engine. I used it on two old vehicles. Excellent tuneup! Ran like new on those two formerly weak-powered engines. I did no carbon tests.
Have you tried the gumout that's sold in a seafoam bottle?
Excellent test definitely feel was performed fairly and results true. I subscribed and shared and will be watching your car videos. Thanks for the good info.
One year ago my engine light came on. Took car to shop and my mechanic read engine code P0300, misfire code. He found cylinder #2 lower compression than other 3 cylinders. The engine light was reset.
Soon after getting the car back from the shop I added a bottle of Techron to the gas tank.
A few weeks ago the engine light returned, code P0300 misfire. I put in a bottle of regular Techron in the tank and then filled it up. This week the car on its own reset the engine light after using about a little more than 1/2 tank of gas. I noticed the idle smoother too.
For me it was inexpensive and easy to use.
We will see if engine light doesn't return.
Car has 133K miles on the engine, 2009 Saturn Aura, Ecotec engine.
Good review.
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
I use Marvels Mystery oil with good effect on my 2001 Yukon and other cars. I put it in every tankful.
A very thorough practical test. I think you gave the Techron every chance to perform as advertised. In my opinion, based on your testing, Techron did not do the job it was advertised to do on the cylinder heads. Really appreciate you good work on this demonstration!! A lot of work went into the video production!!
Roy
+Roy Lewis Thanks Roy and exactly!
+Roy Lewis
My thoughts exactly, and you saved me "hours" trying to articulate them.
Great video, ChrisFix. I've just subscribed, looking forward to your others.
Umm, it says right on the bottle that it's a fuel system cleaner. Cylinder heads are not fuel system. Do you use cough syrup to cure itchy feet?
wait wait wait... i thought the purple cough syrup was for itchy feet, and the orange one was to stop biting my finger nails. Am I missing something??? Damn you Yahoo Answers!!!!
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Use it in my 2002 Grand Cherokee every 3000. Don’t know about the cylinder heads but the rest of the fuel system stays clean and runs super smooth! Once had an 85’ Regal with a clogged fuel filter and was stumbling. Put a bottle in and 2 miles down the road I felt a “Pop” and everything was back to normal and running smoothly!
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I had a 1994 Ford Tempo that I got in 2001 with ~45,000 miles on it, it had a slight knock when I first got it, primarily when driving uphill. After running 1 bottle of Techron (plus Exxon midgrade gas), the knock went away, and I had no further knock. On the other hand, my dad used Techron regularly in his 2001 Subaru Forester, and the dealer told him that use of the product was the cause of one of the O2 sensors failing
If you think about it, it can't clean carbon off of tops of pistons as when fuel hits that area it's already ignited. Id like to see Techron run through a set of dirty injectors.
Even the cheaper brands work great for injectors and any soft carbon buildup.
The air/fuel mixture is not ignited until near the top of the compression stroke, in a properly running engine. During the intake stroke, the fuel & air is being sucked into the cylinder. Then the piston changes direction on the compression stroke with the unburned mix towards the spark plug. So about 50% of the engine cycle has unburned fuel. 4-Cycle engine= Intake, Compression, (Burn) Power Stroke, Exhaust...Repeat! Hope this helps someone
You might be confusing a petrol (gasoline, I'm UK based) engine with a Diesel engine where the injection of fuel is the source of ignition. As 182Q KFTW mentioned, there is unburned fuel in the cylinder during 2 of the 4 strokes.
I agree with seeing the effect on dirty injectors too!
@@ripsic5830 injection of fuel is not the source of ignition, that comes from compression
Spray a fine mist of water into hot engine intake at 1500~ rpm....gets all carbon out (do it SLOWLY! )
Appreciate the effort, but was wondering: How many miles on the engine?
How many miles on the spark plugs and wires?
What type of gasoline do you normally purchase? Is it Top Tier fuel? Octane rating?
Is the throttle body cleaned regularly?
These may factor into your test results.
I ran a Chevy Silverado 5.3L V8 for 108,000 miles on Chevron regular (California blend) adding a bottle of Techron cleaner every oil change and didnt get near the buildup you saw.
Hey Chris I love watching ur videos & I really appreciate ut honesty about every product.Can u please do a test on ARCHOIL FRICTION MODIFIER.I heard so much about it it's basically for diesels but if u could do a video on it that will definitely help alot of people thanks
It removes orange gasoline residue in the tank and carburetor very well. Tested in my pressure washer, which did not run without choke on after not using for a year.
You don't actually want to clean 200,000 miles of carbon deposits in 1 go. If the cleaner was aggressive enough to remove that much gunk that fast, that gunk would scratch up your engine cylinders pretty bad. You should use 1 bottle every oil change to clean-up the 3-7 K miles worth of deposits, not 200,000 miles worth of deposits.
+Igor Petrusky I dump a bottle of injector cleaner in after each oil change, no preference on brand (usually whatever is on sale). It would be interesting to get a bore scope in there and compare my piston heads to his.
Do it 1 to 2 gas tank fulls before oil change, not after. I read some place that these cleaners reduce viscosity of oil if they get mixed into the oil, so you want to change out the oil reasonably soon after using the cleaner. Also, all the dissolved carbon will get picked up by oil and either circulate through the system and gets deposited elsewhere or in best case gets trapped by oil filter. In either case you want to remove dirty oil and its filter as soon as possible.
b.s. that's just how they get you to buy more bottles of the stuff. I'm sure there is a way to get a cleaner in there to get it off. Honestly I did see some improvement in this video that he didn't see for some reason but I don't buy the, "well you just have to keep buying bottles." Selling tool, mainly because I worked in sales and marketing and know how it works. There is a reason Mobil 1 only needs to be changed every 10-15k miles and when you take apart a motor that's been using Mobil 1 religiously after 150k miles and one that hasn't' there is a a huge difference.
I'm so glad my car won't allow to me to use this gunk just sad that it only tells you that in the owner's manual so who know how many people still buy this stuff.
One Two if your fuel is being mixed with your oil I would say you have other issues
Fuel should not mix with oil, it it can get mixed in the combustion chamber if not all fuel burned up.
Techron worked magic for me on the fuel injectors system. I had an issue with the driveshaft and the car shaked when accelerating. Someone suggested I'd use fuel system cleaner just in case. I said what the hell and got the techron. No of course it didn't fix the shaking. But to my surprise the car acceleration went crazy better. E39 BMW, btw.
So yeah, Techron definitely works. But maybe not on carbon buildup.
+Michael. RODRIGUEZ RODRIGUEZ .. You are grammatically correct. But I reckoned I post to American audience, not British. Didn't want anybody looking at me funny.
shaked, shook. both works.
Had the same experience with my old 944 (Normally Aspirated). It sat for a long time, then seemed like it was just barely firing a couple cylinders. Just happened to have some Techron around so I put it in, and added a little gas - after a couple minutes of no effect, it smoothed out and ran fine since. It was all we used at the Mercedes dealership where I used to work. Seems to work great on injectors.
Marvel Mystery is great about getting the carbon cleaned off of the vales and pistons
Great, in-depth review. Thanks for sharing.
From what I remember in tech school carburetion basic and effects of carbon deposits back in the seventies carbon built-up behind the intake robs/makes the octane weaker in the cylinder, causing aggravating pinging/detonation,, the actual result may be best measured by reduced pinging from preignition caused by the crashing flame fronts. Good video.
I did notice a little less sheen from along with reduced carbon deposits. Would filling up with Chevron gas with the Techron from the pump in it be as expensive as using the additive separately.
I kind of wonder also how bad the fuel injectors might be causing the differences in deposits and effectiveness of cleaning on each piston.
The real benefit is to the injectors i.e. fuel system. The build up on the top of the piston is largely irrelevant.
exactly! where are the fuel injector tests? lol
Exactly right.
Heckrodt asked for this test if they're claiming on the cardboard on their product that they clean cylinders. I found them to be excellent for the fuel system
It does matter in high compression /high performance engines as any protrusion in the combustion chamber can cause detonation.
@@fulloboost too small of an orifice to get his camera in LOL
wow. great vid my brother. thank you so much, i appreciate your hard work on this subject. Hats off....
I think that with long term use, Chevron 87 will continue to do it’s thing. I’ve been running Chevron with Techron since my vehicle was new in 2015. The Techron is already blended at the pump and is cheaper than the bottle additive. With 30k miles on my V6 it’s still as clean as a steam whistle.
One thing you are missing is the injector spray pattern. Inkectors do clog and squit imsyead mist as they get old
I had check engine light due to carbon build up in a 2009 Bmw 550 , after one use of techron check engine light went out 👍
same here! Engine light went out... scans said #3 was misfiring and needed a valve spring... expensive repair avoided! Perhaps it was a dirty injector? Dirty around the valve spring? Glad I took a chance on this one, although the others may have also worked too...
@@billaltmayer4364 check spark plugs & coils this gives misfer
Chris my 2011 tahoe has had a rough idle for some time. I changed the spark plugs wires , cleaned the air filter and throttle body. After all that money invested I still had the issue. I came across a chevy forum saying to go use chevron gas with techron. It actually worked I have no more rough idle.🤗
Yes it will clean the injector nozzles and produce a better spray pattern.
Thanks for the Video, you just saved me some money and time, good job.
Chris, you have one nice community of commenters on your channel. No trolls, ahh so relaxing XD. Anyway, nice video bro. Quick question: When you commentate, do you do a voice over after recording, or are you talking live? Just asking because you sound so clear, and you make no mistakes with speech.
xCkillaxC Thank man! Yea, my subscribers are great! There is a troll every one and a while, but my subscribers drive them away! I am talking live most of the time. When looking into the cylinders I do voice-overs because it takes so long to get the camera in the right position, get the correct focus, etc so I need to focus on the filming. Normally, I just speak into the camera as I film though.
Man, you're right. I have terrible speakers but I can always hear Chris!
ChrisFix Wow, impressive. That's one good mic!
@@chrisfix film? went away years ago
are you still making these videos I have been waiting for some new ones lol great videos man
Excellent report 🙂🙂🙂
Good job
Thanks 👍
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i have tried techron in several engines with dirty injectors....no affect at all. sea foam engine cleaner however did work. surprisingly stp version of injector cleaner also did help with dirty injectors. engines i tested the different products on were chevery vortec (6 and 8), saab turbo, mercedes 5 litre and several diff jaguars. for diesels, liquimoly's diesel purge actually does work rather well
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Another great video. Anyone that has dealt with carbon knows how tough it is (there's a reason they now make airplanes and Ferrari's out of carbon fiber). This stuff has always reminded me of an additive product that claims it can clean barnacles from a boat. Good luck.
Sorry ChrisFIx, but you got that all wrong. You will always have some carbon on top of the pistons because that's where the combustion takes place. Techron's main purpose is to clean the back side of the intake valve. Fuel flows around the back side of the intake valve when entering the combustion chamber. Over time, the intake valves accumulate a large amount of carbon buildup on their back side that prevents the air/fuel mixture from entering the combustion chamber efficiently - Techron is meant to clean those deposits. I have used Techron for years and it does work as intended - I know because I've had either the intake manifold or heads off for inspection before and after it's use many times.
Kevin Katz nothing you said matters. he's testing a specific claim on the bottle. he's not testing intake valves. nice try though, cheers.
Well if you want to judge how well this product actually works, then the valves should have been inspected, not the piston head. If you look at the bottle, it shows injector, VALVE and piston - in the order of effectiveness and importance. How do I know? 25 years as an ASE certified master tech... So Master Wing, nothing you said matter, nice try though, cheers...
Kevin, the 2 big things with with valve deposits is chaos they do to intake / combustion chamber airflow. Mileage and power killer.
if it's effects are insignificant on the piston head, its most likely insignificant on the valves as well. regular gasoline being sprayed on the back of the valves should clean it up anyway, since gasoline is a solvent.
Let's all listen to Kevin Katz because he is the expert here.
That you saw any effect at all with two bottles surprises me. My experience is that additives are usually more of a placebo effect than actual effect. So, it may well be that running chevron’s tecron laced gas would actually do what they promise and *prevent* the carbon build up in the first place. So, thanks to your experiment I’m now more open to buying chevron gas. Thanks!
I use it simply to keep clean injectors clean. I drive from South Florida to Central Michigan once a year to visit my son. It takes my 2012 Civic 7 tanks of gas to make the round trip. I bring 7 bottles and use one each fill up. 125k miles on the car and it runs as smooth as the day I bought it. I can't say if what I do is the reason or if it makes any difference at all but it makes me feel better.
It's obviously that it is making a little difference.