In-box Review: Dragon 6891 StuG.III Ausf.G Concrete Armored w/ Zimmerit
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I know its several years late but to answer your question about the roof plug. The 4 bolt plug was a Miag feature added from May 1944 - Sep/Oct 1944. The solid plug from the inside was an Alkett feature from the same time frame.
Ok, ur by far one of the best reviewer, a standard few can hold a candle to. No bs, just the facts.
a very detailed view on this new kit, thanks for that evan :) i´m very impressed by your knowledge and i am sure this will come handy for many fellow modellers out there!
Really looking forward to the build video Evan. Thanks for the review mate.
That's one heck of a review mate, bloody well done! 👍👌👏
I cannot wait for the follow up video...This kit has been in my sights for a few months now!
I just ordered this kit because of your review. First StuG I’ve ever done so I’m sure I’ll be referencing this video a lot
Thanks for tutorial on the concrete /zimmerit Stug111, PM36. I have one these kits in my stash. A lot of good advice.
Took me three sittings to watch this video but very good review of a interesting kit keep up the good work.
Very detailed, in depth and thorough kit review of this interesting version of the StuG III. Your wealth of knowledge on this vehicle is greatly appreciated for those who are looking to improve their eye for detail regarding StuG's. This will be booked marked for future reference should this kit find its way into the stash. I really like the American captured version livery, as I assume the Olive Drab would be field applied and thus not as durable as the standard factory baked on Olive Drab, and therefore might give way for some really interesting weathering and chipping possibilities with dunkelgelb showing through.
Excellent work Evan, cheers!
Another great review I buy my kits based on your reviews 😊.... and I am a big stug iii fan
gotta love the concrete armor ! nice review mate
Thank you Shane! I'll have to check out your Berge-Hetzer review I saw pop up today :)
Just ordered one last week. Great review...
I was so disappointed that the muzzle brake featured on the box art, is not what is inside the kit. The muzzle brake is the early war version, which forces the builder to look for after market parts or try to scratch build something. Why Dragon can't get this right, I don't know, but the muzzle brake is the first thing we look at in photos to judge when a stug photo was taken during the war. They include the wrong one in this kit.
You are correct. I had to purchase about 8 aftermarket StuG gun barrels recently to correct all my Dragon StuG kits in the stash. It's disappointing to see that Dragon never fixed this on any of their StuG kits.
i haven't built a zimmed offering (ZO) kit in a long time. i need to get one
Excellent job.
squash some heat cured FIMO between 2 sheets of baking paper and roll it out thin oblong for rear plate.Peel off one side,pattern/damage it then cure gently/quickly in low heat oven 5mins...home made attak zimm,thats tuff and bendy and cuttable.I make it so you can see through it if you hold it up to light at the joins in patterns.As thick or thin as you like.It looks good thinner at top getting fatter toward bottom...there i finally explained it.
Great review, panzermesiter, i have 3 dragon stug kits to start and build, inclucing this one, can't wait to get started
Thank you Tommy!
There is something compelling about a Dragon kit. You may have to work really hard on it but it will look okay at the end! A challenge.
Nice kit!
Hermoso, Felicitaciones !!!!!
Nice review
Your reviews keep getting better and better, buddy! Keep them up...
They also keep getting longer and longer! Haha, thank you :)
Panzermeister36 i have no problem with longer videos as long as they stay informative...yours are!
Would the tow pintel from dragon 9058 be correct for this beast?
Great kit and great video, but what color are you going to paint it, because I doubt it was painted Olive Drab, by the looks of the original picture, I think Dragon was confused with the Ersatz StuG which was painted Olive Drab by the Germans.
I don't know, you tell me. This StuG looks very dark...
www.google.ca/search?q=captured+StuG+III+G&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiDpYqaqK3aAhUFQ6wKHcc_DFsQ_AUICigB&biw=1536&bih=710#imgrc=zCG-fwnt-EyC_M:
nice tank model👍
damn im loving these stugs, can you do some new miniatures painting videos? such as commanders or american infantry? :D keep up the good work
Looks like a great kit. Only one thing though. The main gun barrel is not slide molded. If it were, you would see a “bump” in the tree just like there is for the MG-42, which is obviously slide molded.
That's some serious zimm detail! The captured version would be different. It's a great looking kit.
Thanks for the review Evan....on part MA6 or 8, I would use the smooth one, it's just a flange that goes under the engine intakes, as I'm sure you know. Never seen any with non-slip attached though. Dragon does some weird things from time to time, but either way don't see why it would need the non-slip? It's actually a part of the fenders.
Tamiya's finnish Stug has that non-slip one and so does the actual tank. I've seen it IRL.
Hi Evan, How do you find out such detailed information, are there any books that you recommend? Also have you ever considered hosting a Stug GB?
Video is good so far, still watching.
Regards from the UK, Mark
of course it is another stug kit :D
Helpful Thanks. Do you have any info on Stug G Dragon kit 6581 ?
I've built that kit twice. Its a good build but if you care about accuracy it's all wrong. It needs the tool locations changed, and zimmerit added, plus the hull is a MIAG factory build while the rest is Alkett factory, which is just weird. You can make it an accurate vehicle from about April to May 1943 with the stuff in the box though.
Thanks for that. I thought the premise that Dragon has for calling it the September production is that Zimmerit application basically stopped in September? Since Stugs were often recovered and field repaired and turned into hybrids do you think i'ts a reasonable explanation for the Miag/Alkett combination?
Concrete armor was used against some HE weapons, like the Panzerfaust (captured by allied forces), and maybe, just a tiny bit maybe, against HE Rounds, but concrete armor never proved to protect against AP Rounds.
+TheDeadLinger HEAT/shaped charge/hollow charge weapons like the Panzerfaust will cut right through concrete like it's nothing. The only way to protect against those warheads is to either deflect the jet of molten copper with specially shaped ceramic inserts between armored plates, or spaced armour to allow the jet to dissipate. Concrete will simply shatter during the initial impact of the shell, and therefore will provide no resistance to the Munroe Effect. Arguably, the shattering of the concrete would draw energy from kinetic energy shells such as standard AP, but still not as much as normal steel would. So concrete would have no effect on HEAT since the initial impact only serves to detonate the shaped charge, so drawing energy from the initial impact does nothing.
Hi, there no fender in this kit right? which kit do you recommend? i would like a StuG 3 or 4 wiht fender and a good interior detalle. Thx
Sorry, i mind StuG III G version or Stug IV
The unknown round clear part is for the Bosch light, if memory serves.
Possibly, but StuG III G only have a Notek light. Panzer III have a Bosch light so that might be where it comes from.
very good model. Regards my friend
Maybe try annealing the stiff tow cable to make it behave
Did you ever build this kit - I don't see a video ? 🤔
I will be building it soon and I will do a video review of it.
Can I put Zimm on my girlfriend? I think it would look cool. And I think it might stop creeps in pubs sticking to her!
Hate trying to get that tow cable neat on those S hooks!!!
Well luckily, this Stug doesn't have the S-hooks mounted :)
You sure love yore stug's... :)
Sadly I think this is illegal in my country. Well, one can dream...
That waffle zimmerit is awesome, but the ds tracks...
You can sell them on ebay for about 10 bucks or more if you're lucky
The biggest problem with this and the other zimmerited Dragon StuG kits is the inaccurate front armor, apparently based on their early StuG kit. However, in the kit is also included accurate(ish) non-zimmerited parts that can be used as a guide to correct the zimmerited ones or - maybe a better idea - that can be used together with an Atak zimmerit set to create a decent front armor. But used as-is and out of the box the zimmerited front parts are IMHO quite horrible!
For some reason Dragon has chosen to make the interlocked front armor with the higher hull sides (see page 100 in the Müller-Zimmerman book). No problem per say, but you'll need to check your references twice before building. They used the same front for their "May 1943" StuG, which of course is completely wrong as this feature arrived almost one year later! Quite an easy fix for any modeler, just do some cutting and adding of styrene and you are done.
When modeling a kit with the interlocked hull and 80mm front armor one should also use the interlocked rear armor, the part you were wondering about at the 45 minutes mark. They should also have the similar but non-zimmerited part in the box.
To my knowledge most of the zimmerited StuGs did not have zimmerit on the rear deck air intakes. Of course with German stuff one can never say never, but one should check ones references and pictures of the StuG one is building.
What more? If the plastic parts are the same as in the 6633 kit the muzzle brake is from the early kit, i.e. wrong for this time-frame. Go Dragon...
Oh my, hail the StuG expert! I am a big fan of your site sir; your work is awesome.
I believe they reference the correct muzzle break but I'll have to double check. The bow armour is only 50mm thick yeah, but it's not too noticeable compared to other issues. I might use the kit 80mm bow plate and then get an Atak set for the zimmerit there, on the rear hull, and on the fender fronts and rears. As for the toolbox, I'm referencing this photo in particular:
www.google.ca/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=759&ei=QL_LWouxCMSUtQXAgproBg&q=stug+iii+g+zimmerit&oq=stug+iii+g+zimmerit&gs_l=img.3...903.7127.0.7464.38.14.2.22.0.0.92.978.13.13.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..1.12.820.0..0j35i39k1j0i30k1j0i5i30k1j0i8i30k1j0i24k1.0.ljnukkULqk0#imgrc=mQeXZMwsenu5NM:
Thanks for your nice words. I myself think the biggest problem up front is the too long sloped upper armor. When you notice it you can't unsee it...
As for the toolbox I did some research after (!) writing my comment and I did find some pics of a zimmerited box. Hence the edited comment. Thus you are right and I was wrr... I was wro... I mean, I was the opposite of right... ;) We learn as long as we live!
Mr Lärka has a StuG website. He knows his stuff
Dack Hacksaw : I do know a thing or two about StuGs, but I quite seldom comment on models or reviews. This due to the fact that way too many "reviews" are too simple and the model is more or less judged on how "cool" it is...
But when I see a serious review like this where the reviewer clearly has done his homework I might comment. Not to show off (or count rivets) but to exchange thoughts and info.
3:46 who else uses their thumb as a mini paint palette
tfw dragon is $100 plus in Aus
also moar stugs
i got the 2017 hummel after building the 2005 premium Nashorn,it had winterketten magic tracks.I thought it would be a new moulding using the Nashorn smart kit as a base.But i got the colour 2005 photo instructions from Nashorn photocpyd in B&W with an added page for hummel gun.2017 and using plastic from 2005 thats usually got a massive dragon card,without the card and a thumbnail of PE. for £55.I can buy a lawnmower for that.
i bought the new ryefield panther w/int. for £62.A lot of money.But compared to modern Dragon kits that's only about £10 more for a 72 step 1500 part build with 25 options,clear hull and turret,LEAD wire and an ABER sized PE fretS.It is worth the money considering even Tamiya with RB metal barrel and PE wouldnt be too much cheaper.I hope its a sign of things to come.I just ordered a Universal/bren gun carrier from Riich models for £30.Looks a challenge and not crazy expensive.Happy building.
TALK ABOUT A REVIEW MAKE A MOVIE WHILE YOUR AT IT
Lol....
it's funny that Dragon suggests prototypes only from the west front, it's ok because americans even don't know what country took Berlin )
Trash DS tracks
Yep
Such a negative tone in your voice. Nobody is forcing you to do these videos but it sounds like it.
Negative tone? What a joke