@@tenkotatsu fair, but I honestly don't think it's that big of an issue. Especially with more players and larger maps there needs to be a way to tell how far away a kill was
@@juancereda5952 lmao it always angers me when devs go out of thier way to tell you both these guns shoot the same round but the guns themselves do drastically different damage, like at least bullshit and say they are different when irl they arent but cmon.
"South African high-calibre anti-material rifle, designed for neutralizing engine blocks and gun emplacements. Able to destroy dreams at up to 1,500m." - In-game description *shocked that an anti-material rifle one shots people*
To be fair if we’re gonna use that logic most snipers in every battlefield games should be one shots then. Like I’m bf4. A .338 lupua rounds is gonna turn your chest cavity into a open air exhibit from a mile away.
@@sayounsang I know but I’m proving a point that you can’t apply normal logic to a game cause most sniper rifles would be a one shot. A lot of guns would be a one to two shot based off their description and realistic performance.
Funny thing is that in bf 3 - 4 half of snipers had one shot one kill while in bf2042 "omg one shot one kill" it is sad that they reduced damage that much
because in some battlefield like BF1 if i'm right, snipers where one shooting between like 25-40 meters for example, so that's why he said this ambigous thing
I would really like to see them add the "marksman bonus" back in where you could see how far away the enemy was, and some scopes with higher magnifications than 6x.
@@homi1001 they wont add it! because of the cry babys ..... they nerf sniping because of rage cry babys, we wont even have the changing bullet range feature (100 m 200m +) anymore .....
Yeh exactly, I've been aggro sniping in BF4 again recently and its glorious! Only one shot kils are either headshots at any range or sort of neck at 50m or below, thats the way it should be. This should have slower rechamber and ADS at least to rebalance.
God damn Discarded looks so sick. They need to add a server browser, my whole time playing I STILL haven't gotten put in a server running it. At the very least they need to add the option to pick which maps you want the way you can with Solo/Co-op.
@@gsa2121 got it 1 more time earlier today. Rest of my matches were on Renewal. Would’ve been nice to have a big selection of maps to play on for launch instead of a small amount.
If you pit a weapon that performs the same every time against a specialist that counters it but whose effectiveness depends on the player, the weapon will ultimately come out on top without fail. Every chest shot on an unarmored target inside 100m with this thing will kill, no Angel player is guaranteed to drop armor for their teammates. That's NOT good for the game.
@@racergsxr1 NGL, having run across this gun in a few lobbies already, I'd take the reliability of the SWS over it any day. I can get 4 shots off quicker than this can get 2, which really makes the SWS potential lethality much higher.
Well either this is going to get nerfed or if dice doesn't do anything about it then every single recon is going to be using this sniper rifle no matter what because of the ease of use
They just need to increase idle sway when not prone so people can't be running around 1 shotting.. so a more passive sniper best used prone from sniping position
@jd bro in any game no one likes camping just like when people defend an objective and they wait there still camping so yeah people hate camping even if you use a gun made for camping it's just how gaming is
In BC2 all bolt action snipers were 1 shot within 75m with magnum ammo and that was the best BF they ever made, if anything, all the snipers should be like this, allow people to play they want instead of forcing sitting in a bush 10 miles away.
Seems they’ve tried to ‘nerf’ this by giving the character shrill screaming voice lines every few seconds. There’d better be an option to turn that off.
irl this weapon is MASSIVE and cannot be shot while standing due to the sheer size and mass coupled with the ridiculous recoil, so maybe they should balance the weapon based on these factors.
Same thing with most sniper rifles. Shooting a barret 50 standing isn't recommended. Even shooting it from a knee is a bitch. Let alone follow on shots. Running around with a 20mm rifle that was ment to be broken down to carry between 2 ppl, and than quick scoping is laughable.
Difference with bf3, is that you would get banned from that server & youd move on to the next one. That was literally the benefit of renting servers. Now, people are trying to ruin guns throughout the whole game. That being said, I didn't ever encounter an issue from a gun I was using in bf3 lmao and I played that game nearly every day for 2 years.
@@Moogli3100 I still have nightmares about that gun.. "WTH, how did someone get an APC into this tiny building?! Oh, just another USAS12 with frag rounds..." *cries self to sleep*
interesting footage - there is no penalty for such a heavy weapon - i suspect ADS while moving is making you a superman... your biceps would be burned-out constantly lifting gun to eye. My solution would be brutal... - no sprinting with heavy weapons - no ADS with heavy weapons (or huge sway with heavy weapons ADS) - you want to snipe? Deploy bi-pod on ground before accurate shots are possible. Personally, I feel that's how you stop sniper spam i.e. make it realistic.
I see your reasoning here but honestly i don't think that is a good change sure its gonna stop the craziness that is that one shot sniper but its gonna encourage camping big time it'd cause more dmg than good imo
@@smurphy55656 nah, u have heli, and a fucking wingsuit to kill campers... u even have a heartbeat sensor... i prefer campers to a superman with a antimaterial rifle killing me in the frontline with one shot
@@Y4ngCP I'm not saying keep it as a oneshot thats cheap and pretty lowskill level to use I'd rather it be on par to snipers on all the other games or make it a battlefield pick-up i don't want to deal with people camping across the map one shotting me either dude
What if they had some other gameplay modifiers to help balancing as well? Like the NTW has this big handle on the top, so maybe tac-sprint is disabled and regular sprint has you lugging it about using the handle, making the sprint to fire speed very long.
That not right martini Henry was so busted because of its incredibly easy sweet spot remember that system? Its sweet spot got changed so the weapon didn't dominate as much but in the right hands it wrecked house
No it was busted cause the damage model for it was broken. It wasn’t entirely the range but it had huge bonuses on parts of the player model that wasn’t supposed to have a positive bonus. Like as an example instead of let’s say .5 multiplier on someone arm so it did half of the damage at the range it hit it would for some fucked up reason do more damage then it should have
Battlefield 4: We have some one shot snipers but they are pickup only and rare. Not bad Battlefield 1: All snipers can 1 shot body shot but in a specific range. Debatable Battlefield V: We have some equipable AT rifles that 1 shot to the body but you have to prone. Annoying but okay 2042: Fuck it... DICE is drunk again.
Thank you for making a video so quick about this gun. Ever since I heard about a 20mm rifle being a non-gadget weapon I have been DYING to see it in action, and I've gotta say it definitely doesn't disappoint.
This gun isn't an issue at all. Takes forever to rack a new round and even longer for a reload. It doesn't have any attachments besides scopes and 1 additional ammo and the bullet drop is horrid. If someone kills you with this rifle they deserve the kill.
@@rexbowling833 it is pretty easy to headshot people when they run. The bullet velocity in this game is insane. And you usually kill everyone with 2 chest shots at any range
It's a heavy weapon with a huge caliper to reload... think of dealing with it in real life... that's something that DICE tries to implement. I did say try
Always gonna need that 1-Shot, Clog After, Slow, Large, Heavy, Bulky, Hard-Hitting, Devastating, Cumbersome, Unpractical, Tedious, Thicc Sniper Rifle in every game. (Gimme some more adjectives to add)
I literally can’t even begin to tell u how long I’ve been waiting for your bf2042 videos. I’m so glad it’s finally here definitely makes my breaks at work 10x better.
@@TboneSTEAK111 no where near dog shit just buggy af. you can go play cod and get spawned trap over and over again if you want, in the mean time this the best we got
@@TboneSTEAK111 I literally had the most fun on the beta than I’ve had on any other game in a long time, looking forward to the full release. I preordered it months ago I just didn’t buy the gold edition or whichever one got the early access.
I used to always play hardcore servers on bf3 and bf4, so all snipers were one hit. I think at long ranges they should all be one hit, nailing a shot and only wounding them just makes it less fun. Yeah yeah hit the head, but it’s not always that simple at like 500-1000m
@@Ccubed92 well if that's boring for you don't do it. Long range sniping or "camping" over objectives has always been a part of Battlefield so if you don't like it just stay playing COD with your twitch streaming friends and leave BF alone
modern rock-paper-scissors mechanics we've come to. yet instead of picking right class to the situation peeps will create an ultimate one man war machine with armor, healthpacks, wallhacks and oneshot weapons. guess bf3's medics with m16 will feel like good time after this one
This actually based off of a real weapon known as the NTW-20 its an anti-material rifle chambered in 20mm bullets (20mm is ammunition used on jet fighters) its too long and too heavy to be carried by one person it need a 2 man crew to operate
It's a 50 cal. The slow reload is its drawback and anything close I have to use sidearm. Which brings the discussion it shouldn't take me 6 hits to finally kill someone from a tank equally powerful MG
Don't really like the idea of one shot chest snipers on battlefield, they were really annoying with BF1 and BF5 (specific ones) Make people aim better.
@@itzzmaniac1233 Then every weapon should be one shot in this game Don't bring "realism" when it comes to balancing an arcade multiplayer game, doesn't make sense bruh
@@Sockan256 He's right, it's a 50 cal round being used, hence the "50" in the name,"NTW-50". This is a fictional, much smaller caliber and more compact version of the NTW-20. In this guise, it's a feasible 1 man weapon, whereas the NTW-20 is a two person job to carry around and operate.
The maps look really wide open a surprising lack of urban warfare, a snipers paradise (I love sniping, but looking at this objectively,). What about those killfeed flanks of ye olde days, is that over?...😕
@@nunungus Yeah, snipers do great against people that go to obvious chokepoints, but there is plenty of chances to flank around them. Plenty of fodder for snipers to hit, but plenty of opportunities to avoid their gaze.
1 shot rifles like this with an open map and minimal way for AR users to pressure you given range drop offs are pretty severe. It's going to be some fun times for sniper mains.
BFV had sniping figured out: Bolt action 1shot headshot 2 shot bodyshot at any range. AT rifle could 1 shot bodyshot within 100 meters but only aimable when prone. It was good imo.
wasnt the Boys AT rifle usable when standing even if not deployed???? I DO agree one-shot "Anti-materiel HEAVY rifles" should only be usable when prone... it makes more sense, is more balanced, and more immersive that way.
@@LyonPercival with the anti material rifles could only aim down the sights when prone or when bipod is deployed on a wall. It was good coz it made you stationary, a good tradeoff for the 1shot capability.
Give it a week or so after the full launch and everyone will be using the marksman or sniper rifles. Maps are way too big and bullet spread makes automatic weapons basically useless over long ranges where most fights now occur in this game. Guns like these two and the SVK have absolutely crazy bullet velocity and effective damage rang along with virtually no bullet drop
@@jeramysteve3394 To answer honestly; No. Anti-materiel rifles arr used against light vehicles, generators, etc and not against infantry as the level of power from the rifle simply doesn't make sense in combat.
Well there's the m82 in bf4 and that was a semi auto one shot sniper. Though it was a pickup weapon. Also the anti tank rifles in bfv but not many people use them cause you had to be prone. I just think there are multiple ways to balance it.
Should should be only used from prone to. Make it the NTW 14.45 and increased weight, size, reload rate, aim down sight with only shooting from prone. FYI the NTW in 50 cal was more a option for a low cost training version. 14.45mm was the lo g range sniper round and the 20mm used for HE effect firing SAPHEI
I dont think they should nerf or remove that rifle, instead they should completely change the way its played. Make it so that you’d HAVE to set it up before using it, so this way you have to be stationary behind cover or prone to prevent run and gun with a 1 shot weapon.
People cry over a clunky ass 1 shot sniper and accept tanks and helis destroing every game Just make it the heaviest shit in the word, like a elephant gun from bf1 that you need cover or be laying down to shoot and make a huge animation between shots and is really ok It is realistic and all thought its to easy for sniper, the class was always the hardest anyway. And after all you can still counter it with armor
Long time in between shots and a small mag is a good trade for one shot kills. It might be meta but I doubt it will be game breaking. Tbh I think its a pretty good trade off
@@invictusangelica It does matter why do you think I take my coins and buy battlefield because of its play style. Now if cod stuff like side jump shots and 150 health and specialist come to battlefield how you think us battlefield fans will think.
I’m just going to pretend that this is an early version of the Krabar, and this game takes place long before humans set out to discover the Frontier in the Titanfall/Apex universe.
I love the fact that when I watch streamers play this game, they’re always in servers where the opposing team does not know how to operate vehicles and how every opponent seems to line up perfectly for a shot, and the streamers always seem to be firing actual bullets that do damage…..but when I go online, everybody is jumping around like a bunch of idiots whilst I’m firing either rubber bullets or using a squirt gun only to be obliterated by some ace pilot with 50 tactical nukes underneath their gunship 👍🏻 great balanced game though…..
@@gsa2121 ooh but I started with Battlefield 1942, and I’ve played all of the following battlefield games very thoroughly, I’m a real BF Vet hahaha, but I’ve noticed that the Battlefield changes with each game, and not necessarily in a good way, the formula which was used in Bad Company 2 was the best for me. But in this version of Bad Conpany 2, with Portal…..it’s just not the same
I'm kinda glad they added it and if u think about it with its 1 shot kill, it's slow, and doesn't have to much ammo. I personally dont think it's over power, but I dont even have it yet😂
Its not op, i have it and i prefere the other ones , at more than 150m the bullet drop is insane and its not a 1 shot any more (0-130m 1 shot) They probably added it for the cod fans to have somewhat easier sniping
I believe they should have made this a customizable weapon drop that you could get after a couple of kills, no refills, a reasonable amount of ammo. As it is currently, there will always be people who abuse the .50 cal.
It would have made sense if they made the 50 a gadget with one mag, slow movement and reload, and when it’s out of ammo you toss it. Give it more stopping power for vehicles.
mfs looked at the hecate from phantom forces and said "yep, this should be in a triple A title" thats fun as hell lol, im not even against it it'll probably be nerfed anyway
this battlefield is trash even compared to BFV ! if u want some generic BF gameplay start up BF1 my man this game has nothing to do with Battlefield besides the name
So a little background on the inspiration. It is based of a real anti material rifle that irl shoots 20mm shells from shoulder operation. IG I think it is suppose to be a 50 caliber round. Its a level 60 unlock so, many people wont have it(simple because who wants to slog through 60 levels of this game right now). It has extreme bullet drop and has the slowest velocity of all sniper rifles. It is not easy to shoot a person that is at long range with this weapon. It can dmg any vehicle. It is most definitely not over tuned simple because the DXR and SVK exist in their current state and medium range gunplay is about rate of fire and accuracy and SMGs have little fall off damage, high ROF, and minimal bloom making them the king of CQB Short range and medium range gunplay. I'm sure once SMGs get a nice swift kick in the balls and ARs can actually breath we may see more of this weapon used. Simple fix will be to increased ADS and extraordinary recoil making it impossible to do a follow up unless your target is completely braindead. IMHO this should have been a gadget that could shoot players out of light vehicles and helicopters and/or disable engines on any vehicle if hit in the respective area.
Hard to say what balance is. A slow rechamber time. Slow ADS speed. High idle sway when standing. But if you do too much, it would be useless. There will definitely be a meta surrounding this weapon unless something is done to tweak it.
Good: 1 shot kill: -If you don't miss -If they don't have armor on -If they are within 100 meters Bad: Long reload Long bolt-action animation Bad ammo economy
To be fair the NTW does fire a 20mm or 14.5mm shell in real life so I would guess it makes powder out of anything that's not made of metal. It's also a level 60 unlock so it's not like everyone and their brother is gonna be running around with it.
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They should balance this by MASSIVELY increasing ADS speed. Thoughts?
(If they don't make it 1 shot it will be completely useless)
Maybe cut down the 1-shot to 20 metres?
Increasing time to ADS is the best way to balance it IMO.
Maybe no ADS unless prone? Like BFV Panzerbüchse & Boys AT..
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@@thafoehammer143 He’s got a point
"...is a one shot kill within 100 meters... at any range."
Reminds me of:
"60% of the time, it works every time"
Love it 😂👌 I also often say such nonsense
"i was born at a very young age"
It makes a lot of sense in my opinion…in the 0-100m range it is a one shot killer…so no sweet spot like in bf1 for example kappa
In the context of "sweet spots" from BF1, it makes sense.
@@Stodeh I imagined you were talking about 'sweet spot', but it sounded funny the first time I heard it hehe
This game needs a way to tell how far away the enemy you killed is. Marksman bonus would be best but 🤷♂️
Marksman bonus felt very satisfying in the past BFs. But my guess is that they don't want to encourage long-range camping so they removed it?
@@tenkotatsu fair, but I honestly don't think it's that big of an issue. Especially with more players and larger maps there needs to be a way to tell how far away a kill was
I think you can unlock sights that has an indication of how far the enemy is but that's the most we'll get for now.
I would prefer a damage percentage indicator
Where the F is marksman bonus, such a satisfying, non-intrusive bit of UI feedback for the player? Why change that, makes no sense...
I mean it always felt wierd to me that you can take a 50. Cal to the heart and be like skyrims guards: "must of been the wind"
Well, you can take a few heli or tank 50 cal shots like nothing.
@@juancereda5952 lmao it always angers me when devs go out of thier way to tell you both these guns shoot the same round but the guns themselves do drastically different damage, like at least bullshit and say they are different when irl they arent but cmon.
Dozer : heh amateur
Block tank shell with shield
That’s why I could only ever play hardcore servers on BF4.
Nah, those are legit 20mm rounds. Way bigger. Like, nearly twice the size of your hand.
"South African high-calibre anti-material rifle, designed for neutralizing engine blocks and gun emplacements. Able to destroy dreams at up to 1,500m."
- In-game description
*shocked that an anti-material rifle one shots people*
Exactly my thoughts when people complained about the explosive rytec in mw
To be fair if we’re gonna use that logic most snipers in every battlefield games should be one shots then. Like I’m bf4. A .338 lupua rounds is gonna turn your chest cavity into a open air exhibit from a mile away.
@@reasonableq419 That’s why hardcore mode exists… I think.
@@sayounsang I know but I’m proving a point that you can’t apply normal logic to a game cause most sniper rifles would be a one shot. A lot of guns would be a one to two shot based off their description and realistic performance.
lol I guess because it's a game you're supposed to live, I understand your logic. People already crying nerfs and so it begins.
Funny thing is that in bf 3 - 4 half of snipers had one shot one kill
while in bf2042 "omg one shot one kill" it is sad that they reduced damage that much
"is a one shot within 100 meters, at any range" ... whaaat? :D
At any range within 100
@@davids.3584 That would be a 100 m range. Odd wording eh.
because in some battlefield like BF1 if i'm right, snipers where one shooting between like 25-40 meters for example, so that's why he said this ambigous thing
Yeah it is confusing if you didn't know the sweet spot mechanic damage at specific range instead of over a specific range.
In the context of "sweet spots" from BF1, it makes sense.
I would really like to see them add the "marksman bonus" back in where you could see how far away the enemy was, and some scopes with higher magnifications than 6x.
Pretty sure there's a 12x for the M98B. Marksman bonus is a must for sure
@@Shaduga I haven't seen it and this is most likely only in the BF3 weapons tier not in the BF2042 weapons tier, but I want it in both tiers.
@@homi1001 nono like 2 o 3 out of 3 bf2042 snipers have 10x or more magnification max
@@snowkbs OK so that's good to know, if there wasn't a 10x available that would be bad.
@@homi1001 they wont add it! because of the cry babys ..... they nerf sniping because of rage cry babys, we wont even have the changing bullet range feature (100 m 200m +) anymore .....
I remember weapons like these were battlefield pickups in BF4
you only use a knife though?
Yeh exactly, I've been aggro sniping in BF4 again recently and its glorious! Only one shot kils are either headshots at any range or sort of neck at 50m or below, thats the way it should be. This should have slower rechamber and ADS at least to rebalance.
I remember when Anti Materiel Rifles was available to everyone in BF2 and BFBC2...
With all due respect sir, we only seen you are using knife.
@@CybcaGaming except for the one time he used the 50 to snipe people on dawnbreaker from resort.
This is amazing. I hated in past games getting hit markers with 50 cals from close range, cod or battlefield.
My experience was that I could never get instant kills with body shots but died of them majority of the time.
God damn Discarded looks so sick. They need to add a server browser, my whole time playing I STILL haven't gotten put in a server running it. At the very least they need to add the option to pick which maps you want the way you can with Solo/Co-op.
There is one, it's in the portal browse community playlists tab
All I’ve gotten is that map. Last night after 15 hours of playing I finally got into Orbital once.
@@michaelbeleut6480 Still haven't got it?
@@gsa2121 got it 1 more time earlier today. Rest of my matches were on Renewal. Would’ve been nice to have a big selection of maps to play on for launch instead of a small amount.
Try breakthrough if you haven't yet gotten it a few times in that mode.
Engineer got a hold of this weapon and he’s loving it while recon said that gun is definitely OP
I know that reference.
But can this gun control day and night?
Lol
Should try shooting it at the sun
I've heard the underbarrel shoots grenades
So, prediction- having a gun like this in the game will basically make Angel, the guy that can give people armor, super popular.
High IQ point my friend 😎👍 what do they call it...Cottage Industry 😁
If you pit a weapon that performs the same every time against a specialist that counters it but whose effectiveness depends on the player, the weapon will ultimately come out on top without fail. Every chest shot on an unarmored target inside 100m with this thing will kill, no Angel player is guaranteed to drop armor for their teammates. That's NOT good for the game.
@@racergsxr1 NGL, having run across this gun in a few lobbies already, I'd take the reliability of the SWS over it any day. I can get 4 shots off quicker than this can get 2, which really makes the SWS potential lethality much higher.
Angel is an angel. Both ammo and amor, and u can use the loadout crate to klimb on stuff, and did i mention that the loadout crate refils rockets.
Honestly armor on the game sucks ass. It rewards players with an extra safeguard in gunfights for nothing. But that’s just me.
Well either this is going to get nerfed or if dice doesn't do anything about it then every single recon is going to be using this sniper rifle no matter what because of the ease of use
The bolt speed is super slow so if there’s more than one guy they’ll kill you.
Ease of use? It's slow, heavy and has 3 bullets with looooong reload. This is not easy to use at all. But this gun is way too cool
Man, so many people can't hit anything in fps games. Don't let your skill and or people like stod bias your opinion.
@@rhumandlove393 And for them this will be a no brainer. Hit anywhere on the body means kill? Every noob will use this.
@@42ZaphodB42 compare to BFV one hit snipers? only good players could utilise those iirc, noobs will use a fast ttk low recoil assault rifle
They just need to increase idle sway when not prone so people can't be running around 1 shotting.. so a more passive sniper best used prone from sniping position
So you mean promote camping? No.
Its a battlefield game, the maps are supposed to facilitate sniper gameplay. The maps arent arena sized bunny hop fests like call of duty.
@@Evoqc84 are you against camping with a sniper?
Weapons like these should be full prone use only... END
@jd bro in any game no one likes camping just like when people defend an objective and they wait there still camping so yeah people hate camping even if you use a gun made for camping it's just how gaming is
In BC2 all bolt action snipers were 1 shot within 75m with magnum ammo and that was the best BF they ever made, if anything, all the snipers should be like this, allow people to play they want instead of forcing sitting in a bush 10 miles away.
Seems they’ve tried to ‘nerf’ this by giving the character shrill screaming voice lines every few seconds. There’d better be an option to turn that off.
@@feroxvenom5082 ye fuck that im only going to play portal mode
@@feroxvenom5082 who hurt you? ahahahah
@@feroxvenom5082 🤦♂️🤦♂️
It’s bad. The end of games makes me shudder when they all give a little cheesy 1 liner..
Just this alone make me not want to play the game
If I shot someone with a 20mm round and he just kept running I'd be pissed
Thats why this gun shouldnt exist in the game in the first place
@@IlNamelessKinglI then no gun should exist at that point
@@IlNamelessKinglI if you don’t want cool guns go make your own portal server
If this were a realistic game, yes. A one shot sniper in bf shouldn't because thing. (Excluding the power weapons from bf4)
I’m pretty sure it’s a .50cal right?
Anti material rifle anyway so of course it’s got T H I C C one shot kill range.
irl this weapon is MASSIVE and cannot be shot while standing due to the sheer size and mass coupled with the ridiculous recoil, so maybe they should balance the weapon based on these factors.
@@napiski2260 they should just do what was done with anti-mat rifles in BFV where you can only ADS with the bipod out.
Same thing with most sniper rifles. Shooting a barret 50 standing isn't recommended. Even shooting it from a knee is a bitch. Let alone follow on shots. Running around with a 20mm rifle that was ment to be broken down to carry between 2 ppl, and than quick scoping is laughable.
You know the cod community has moved into battlefield when there’s mass amount of people complaining about nerfing guns. Lmao.
Laughs in OG BF3 USAS12
BF3 lobbies were more toxic you would get banned if you used anything other than a sniper
This dude never played bf3 lol
Difference with bf3, is that you would get banned from that server & youd move on to the next one. That was literally the benefit of renting servers.
Now, people are trying to ruin guns throughout the whole game.
That being said, I didn't ever encounter an issue from a gun I was using in bf3 lmao and I played that game nearly every day for 2 years.
@@Moogli3100 I still have nightmares about that gun.. "WTH, how did someone get an APC into this tiny building?! Oh, just another USAS12 with frag rounds..." *cries self to sleep*
I just REALLY want more maps with countryside gameplay where maybe there's some factories and small villages.
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ARAS
Nah
@@mr.shamblin7404 Yah
keep dreaming. they only know how to design useless big stupid deserts and open areas with no content lol
Am I the only one that finds it insane that there are no hashmarks on the long range sniper scopes?
Yeah I always wonder why didn't add a mil dot or 2
Or the max zoom level being 10. Wtf BF4 had a 40x, on BF3 you could put that scope on any gun if I remember right.
Yea the scope look empty
Future Microtransactions as a fix ?
I agree IT IS weid, that said guys lets calm down and wait for the updates, its a live service
I’d really want to see marksman bonus. I really hate how they took that out
ALL THE TH-camRS AND SWEATS CRIED ABOUT SNIPERS AND WE lost the bonus
yh cause it only supported camping
@@Baumfreund77 it doesn't. Landing a shot from across the map is so satisfying or even headshot that running guy at 200meters
@@Baumfreund77 How
@@Baumfreund77 yes, let me run INTO BATTLE with a 2 shot bolt action against smgs shotguns lmgs and ars.
interesting footage - there is no penalty for such a heavy weapon - i suspect ADS while moving is making you a superman... your biceps would be burned-out constantly lifting gun to eye.
My solution would be brutal...
- no sprinting with heavy weapons
- no ADS with heavy weapons (or huge sway with heavy weapons ADS)
- you want to snipe? Deploy bi-pod on ground before accurate shots are possible.
Personally, I feel that's how you stop sniper spam i.e. make it realistic.
I see your reasoning here but honestly i don't think that is a good change sure its gonna stop the craziness that is that one shot sniper but its gonna encourage camping big time it'd cause more dmg than good imo
@@smurphy55656 nah, u have heli, and a fucking wingsuit to kill campers... u even have a heartbeat sensor... i prefer campers to a superman with a antimaterial rifle killing me in the frontline with one shot
Are you always this boring?
@@Y4ngCP I'm not saying keep it as a oneshot thats cheap and pretty lowskill level to use I'd rather it be on par to snipers on all the other games or make it a battlefield pick-up i don't want to deal with people camping across the map one shotting me either dude
@@smurphy55656 it has a 100 meter one shot range so nobody’s going to be cross mapping you
What if they had some other gameplay modifiers to help balancing as well? Like the NTW has this big handle on the top, so maybe tac-sprint is disabled and regular sprint has you lugging it about using the handle, making the sprint to fire speed very long.
good i hate tac sprint.
its probably gonna be like the martini henry in bf1, its a one shot kill at first, but then gets nerfed to 2 shots
That not right martini Henry was so busted because of its incredibly easy sweet spot remember that system? Its sweet spot got changed so the weapon didn't dominate as much but in the right hands it wrecked house
No it was busted cause the damage model for it was broken. It wasn’t entirely the range but it had huge bonuses on parts of the player model that wasn’t supposed to have a positive bonus. Like as an example instead of let’s say .5 multiplier on someone arm so it did half of the damage at the range it hit it would for some fucked up reason do more damage then it should have
@@reasonableq419 shit was i remembering incorrectly xD i thought it was its sweet spot lmao
as someone who used exclusively the martini henry for 90% of bf1, i dont think this is an apt comparison lol
Finally a sniper that I don’t have to good at to use! Thanks, dice!
Battlefield 4: We have some one shot snipers but they are pickup only and rare. Not bad
Battlefield 1: All snipers can 1 shot body shot but in a specific range. Debatable
Battlefield V: We have some equipable AT rifles that 1 shot to the body but you have to prone. Annoying but okay
2042: Fuck it... DICE is drunk again.
Thank you for making a video so quick about this gun. Ever since I heard about a 20mm rifle being a non-gadget weapon I have been DYING to see it in action, and I've gotta say it definitely doesn't disappoint.
Tis "only" a 50 cal in this game, hence the NTW-50 moniker rather than NTW-20
The problem is not the 1-shots, it is the mobility with the weapon.
Nah with a sniper it’s a problem when I shoot three times chest shot and they don’t die
This gun isn't an issue at all. Takes forever to rack a new round and even longer for a reload. It doesn't have any attachments besides scopes and 1 additional ammo and the bullet drop is horrid. If someone kills you with this rifle they deserve the kill.
@@rexbowling833 it is pretty easy to headshot people when they run. The bullet velocity in this game is insane. And you usually kill everyone with 2 chest shots at any range
It's a heavy weapon with a huge caliper to reload... think of dealing with it in real life... that's something that DICE tries to implement. I did say try
Always gonna need that 1-Shot, Clog After, Slow, Large, Heavy, Bulky, Hard-Hitting, Devastating, Cumbersome, Unpractical, Tedious, Thicc Sniper Rifle in every game.
(Gimme some more adjectives to add)
bulky, hard hitting, devastating
cumbersome, unpractical, tedious
*Thicc*
I literally can’t even begin to tell u how long I’ve been waiting for your bf2042 videos. I’m so glad it’s finally here definitely makes my breaks at work 10x better.
game is absolute dogshit though so dont get your hopes up
@@TboneSTEAK111 no where near dog shit just buggy af. you can go play cod and get spawned trap over and over again if you want, in the mean time this the best we got
@@TboneSTEAK111 I literally had the most fun on the beta than I’ve had on any other game in a long time, looking forward to the full release. I preordered it months ago I just didn’t buy the gold edition or whichever one got the early access.
I used to always play hardcore servers on bf3 and bf4, so all snipers were one hit. I think at long ranges they should all be one hit, nailing a shot and only wounding them just makes it less fun. Yeah yeah hit the head, but it’s not always that simple at like 500-1000m
That sounds so boring to camp in an objective mode sniping from far away getting prolly 10 kills a game i bet lol
"make the game easier and reward lousy aim"
@@Ccubed92 well if that's boring for you don't do it. Long range sniping or "camping" over objectives has always been a part of Battlefield so if you don't like it just stay playing COD with your twitch streaming friends and leave BF alone
@@tcmx712 agreed
@juan muza yessssir
Looks like it is "pick armor specialist or get oneshotted by snipers" type of gameplay. Excellent.
modern rock-paper-scissors mechanics we've come to. yet instead of picking right class to the situation peeps will create an ultimate one man war machine with armor, healthpacks, wallhacks and oneshot weapons.
guess bf3's medics with m16 will feel like good time after this one
This actually based off of a real weapon known as the NTW-20 its an anti-material rifle chambered in 20mm bullets (20mm is ammunition used on jet fighters) its too long and too heavy to be carried by one person it need a 2 man crew to operate
It's a 50 cal. The slow reload is its drawback and anything close I have to use sidearm. Which brings the discussion it shouldn't take me 6 hits to finally kill someone from a tank equally powerful MG
Preach
Don't really like the idea of one shot chest snipers on battlefield, they were really annoying with BF1 and BF5 (specific ones)
Make people aim better.
BC2 might have a word with your take
a sniper bullet in the chest is supposed to kill
@@itzzmaniac1233 Then every weapon should be one shot in this game
Don't bring "realism" when it comes to balancing an arcade multiplayer game, doesn't make sense bruh
@@itzzmaniac1233 a game is supposed to be fun. Also following your logic a dead soldier is not supposed to respawn.
Especially game journalists.
That is what a 20mm round would do to you, im surprised it doesn't even delete character models XD
try shooting a weapon with a 20mm caliber from the shoulder, not happening so it's clearly not realism to start with
I’m pretty sure it’s a .50 bmg right?
@@thafoehammer143 That would be incorrect. a .50 bmg is a 12,7 mm round. quite a hefty difference. 20mm is usually called a cannon round.
@@Sockan256 He's right, it's a 50 cal round being used, hence the "50" in the name,"NTW-50". This is a fictional, much smaller caliber and more compact version of the NTW-20. In this guise, it's a feasible 1 man weapon, whereas the NTW-20 is a two person job to carry around and operate.
@@Sockan256 yeah I meant they changed it to .50bmg in the game. The real gun is 20mm.
The maps look really wide open a surprising lack of urban warfare, a snipers paradise (I love sniping, but looking at this objectively,). What about those killfeed flanks of ye olde days, is that over?...😕
There are a lot of ways to get around without being sniped, a lot of areas have urban zones or heavy cover too
@@therealtjpek good to know, thanks man 👍
@@shakybeevessouls use the call in menu go get a vehicle
It's not really a sniper paradise, u have plenty of hiding stops and coverage from snipers, like urban zones, vegetation, etc
@@nunungus Yeah, snipers do great against people that go to obvious chokepoints, but there is plenty of chances to flank around them. Plenty of fodder for snipers to hit, but plenty of opportunities to avoid their gaze.
1 shot rifles like this with an open map and minimal way for AR users to pressure you given range drop offs are pretty severe. It's going to be some fun times for sniper mains.
BFV had sniping figured out: Bolt action 1shot headshot 2 shot bodyshot at any range. AT rifle could 1 shot bodyshot within 100 meters but only aimable when prone. It was good imo.
wasnt the Boys AT rifle usable when standing even if not deployed????
I DO agree one-shot "Anti-materiel HEAVY rifles" should only be usable when prone... it makes more sense, is more balanced, and more immersive that way.
@@LyonPercival with the anti material rifles could only aim down the sights when prone or when bipod is deployed on a wall. It was good coz it made you stationary, a good tradeoff for the 1shot capability.
Now armour is going to sell out quicker than toilet paper
Make it more clunky + even slower rechamber speed and ill be okay with it being a 1 shot
Yeah slower bold and ads and I think it would be g
I agree, it looks too quick
It's literally the Kraber from Apex, basically a carbon copy
This is literally a real weapon though lol
Damn yea. I was like where did I see this gun before
except it's actually a real gun that exists
Literally ≠ basically.
Give it a week or so after the full launch and everyone will be using the marksman or sniper rifles. Maps are way too big and bullet spread makes automatic weapons basically useless over long ranges where most fights now occur in this game. Guns like these two and the SVK have absolutely crazy bullet velocity and effective damage rang along with virtually no bullet drop
It's all I see now. That SVK is insane and snipers. The automatics feel like shit.
its an Anti-material rifle, bout 90% sure that against the Geneva suggestions
Wtf anti material rifles aren't against the rules are they?
@@jeramysteve3394 This one definitely is 😂
@@jeramysteve3394 To answer honestly; No.
Anti-materiel rifles arr used against light vehicles, generators, etc and not against infantry as the level of power from the rifle simply doesn't make sense in combat.
Geneva bucket list
Pay attention to the story there is no more Geneva there’s practically only two countries left in 2042
So he is a sniper who can heal himself and with hax integrated, nice Dice 👌
One shot sniper,medkit and wallhacks 😂
“ you mean they don’t all kill in one shot”
- everyone coming from hardcore
the svd, sorry svk, will be great in HC.
Are they doing a hardcore this time for battlefield? I can’t remember the last time there was a hardcore for battlefield, 4 maybe?
@@mrjaydee101 you could run custom games in bfv with 200% dmg. it was rad. no more bullet sponges.
@@BoKnowsBrains i didn’t know that. That’s good. I missed hardcore battlefield.
Well there's the m82 in bf4 and that was a semi auto one shot sniper. Though it was a pickup weapon. Also the anti tank rifles in bfv but not many people use them cause you had to be prone. I just think there are multiple ways to balance it.
I'm using Panzerbüchse (at rifle) in BFV everyday using full auto glitch soo.. XD
@@kondi_krul so you run an easy camp weapon and cheat a glitch to get kills? Classic scrub 🤣🤣
@@jlee89471 i do what i want and i like it
@@kondi_krul correction; you realize youre garbage and cheat to get by
Should should be only used from prone to. Make it the NTW 14.45 and increased weight, size, reload rate, aim down sight with only shooting from prone.
FYI the NTW in 50 cal was more a option for a low cost training version. 14.45mm was the lo g range sniper round and the 20mm used for HE effect firing SAPHEI
I love how that BF2042 staff at the end said "My pc is ****"
0:58 "one shot within 100 meters at any range"
my math quiz questions
I dont think they should nerf or remove that rifle, instead they should completely change the way its played. Make it so that you’d HAVE to set it up before using it, so this way you have to be stationary behind cover or prone to prevent run and gun with a 1 shot weapon.
People cry over a clunky ass 1 shot sniper and accept tanks and helis destroing every game
Just make it the heaviest shit in the word, like a elephant gun from bf1 that you need cover or be laying down to shoot and make a huge animation between shots and is really ok
It is realistic and all thought its to easy for sniper, the class was always the hardest anyway. And after all you can still counter it with armor
I knocked sniping till I learnt how hard it is, far more satisfying than any hose down with a PDW🤣
Long time in between shots and a small mag is a good trade for one shot kills. It might be meta but I doubt it will be game breaking. Tbh I think its a pretty good trade off
"There's not a lot of cover on this one." I hear multiple times.
I can already hear "Engineer" from Battlefield friends laughing maniacly.
One shot chest shot doesn't bother me. Had that in CoD for years.
This is BF not COD
@@MAdisMas Does it matter when CoD is becoming more BF and BF is becoming more CoD?
@@invictusangelica yeah
@@measuredsul8586 Please elaborate
@@invictusangelica It does matter why do you think I take my coins and buy battlefield because of its play style. Now if cod stuff like side jump shots and 150 health and specialist come to battlefield how you think us battlefield fans will think.
I’m just going to pretend that this is an early version of the Krabar, and this game takes place long before humans set out to discover the Frontier in the Titanfall/Apex universe.
😂😂😂😂
I feel like this is op, but looking at how many people used the armor perk in the beta, it might be sort of nerfed?
I honestly hope they don’t nerf it. Gives players a really good reason to use the bodyarmor.
@@dustybunny66 last time I checked a 20% damage reduction to all weapons is already a pretty good fucking reason to use it
Dozer : pffft i block that thing and heat tank shell all day baby
DXR-1, is that with the 6x scope? If so, how'd you get rid of the orange + when scoped in?
I love the fact that when I watch streamers play this game, they’re always in servers where the opposing team does not know how to operate vehicles and how every opponent seems to line up perfectly for a shot, and the streamers always seem to be firing actual bullets that do damage…..but when I go online, everybody is jumping around like a bunch of idiots whilst I’m firing either rubber bullets or using a squirt gun only to be obliterated by some ace pilot with 50 tactical nukes underneath their gunship 👍🏻 great balanced game though…..
Start from battlefield 4 and work your way here.
@@gsa2121 ooh but I started with Battlefield 1942, and I’ve played all of the following battlefield games very thoroughly, I’m a real BF Vet hahaha, but I’ve noticed that the Battlefield changes with each game, and not necessarily in a good way, the formula which was used in Bad Company 2 was the best for me. But in this version of Bad Conpany 2, with Portal…..it’s just not the same
@@arjanverhesen4243 there alot of new players in this one, so they play a bit different I feel. Alot of COD guys
Ads and reload speed should be just a tad longer and I’m fine with it
1 shot in 100m, in any range??
my mind was like, "wait, What?!" lol
literally made me think lol
Ah, the good ol' pre-patch Martini Henry from BF1.
This thing is basically the Kraber but in Battlefield 2042 oh boy
I'm kinda glad they added it and if u think about it with its 1 shot kill, it's slow, and doesn't have to much ammo. I personally dont think it's over power, but I dont even have it yet😂
Its not op, i have it and i prefere the other ones , at more than 150m the bullet drop is insane and its not a 1 shot any more (0-130m 1 shot)
They probably added it for the cod fans to have somewhat easier sniping
@@c_1004f Right now I prefer the svk 😂 I killed this dude 1,010m away and he got a heli to kill me
I believe they should have made this a customizable weapon drop that you could get after a couple of kills, no refills, a reasonable amount of ammo. As it is currently, there will always be people who abuse the .50 cal.
It's a 20mm, not a 12.7
@@thevalorousdong7675 it's a modified more compact 50 fictional version
It would have made sense if they made the 50 a gadget with one mag, slow movement and reload, and when it’s out of ammo you toss it.
Give it more stopping power for vehicles.
Imagine if we got an episode of Battlefield Friends with this gun.
I love this 50 cal, but the only downside of it is the reloading speed.
The rest is fine
mfs looked at the hecate from phantom forces and said "yep, this should be in a triple A title"
thats fun as hell lol, im not even against it
it'll probably be nerfed anyway
We should be happy that there isn’t an equivalent to the M107
Hate that fucking thing. Practically the Hecate on steroids.
I’m loving how uncomfortable these maps look, it looks like you guys are fighting on an actual battlefield and less than a pvp designed map.
It’s 20mm so I would hope so
like that matters in a battlefield game
Anghel mains like: Tis' but a scratch.
Stodeh + BUILT IN WALLHACK = yeah, that is bound to end well... come on DICE...
Honestly, the weapons in this game are utterly forgettable
Nope
I'm excited to play tonight!
Aslong as its a bolt action its fine.
What are your BF2042 mouse sensitivity and FOV settings?
im getting Martini Henry flashbacks i do not want to have
Is it me or this game has the most generic feel out of every Battlefiel game so far ?
this battlefield is trash even compared to BFV ! if u want some generic BF gameplay start up BF1 my man this game has nothing to do with Battlefield besides the name
So a little background on the inspiration. It is based of a real anti material rifle that irl shoots 20mm shells from shoulder operation.
IG I think it is suppose to be a 50 caliber round. Its a level 60 unlock so, many people wont have it(simple because who wants to slog through 60 levels of this game right now). It has extreme bullet drop and has the slowest velocity of all sniper rifles. It is not easy to shoot a person that is at long range with this weapon. It can dmg any vehicle. It is most definitely not over tuned simple because the DXR and SVK exist in their current state and medium range gunplay is about rate of fire and accuracy and SMGs have little fall off damage, high ROF, and minimal bloom making them the king of CQB Short range and medium range gunplay. I'm sure once SMGs get a nice swift kick in the balls and ARs can actually breath we may see more of this weapon used. Simple fix will be to increased ADS and extraordinary recoil making it impossible to do a follow up unless your target is completely braindead.
IMHO this should have been a gadget that could shoot players out of light vehicles and helicopters and/or disable engines on any vehicle if hit in the respective area.
Weirdos: "There's a one-shot sniper."
People that play hardcore: "Wait, which one isn't?"
I like it. It spices up the game when guns are unique. Instead of bf4 where there were 14 or so DMR’s that were 95% literally the same weapon
Oh nooooooo an anti materiel rifle that actually acts like an anti materiel rifle
Some simple fixes would be
-slow cycle
-slow ads
-slow bullet
+one shot
+one kill
Then there is me, someone standing still, dot exactly on center of their head. Miss
So imagine the anti tank rifle from BF5… but you can walk around with it.
Or the tank hunter class from bf 1
1 shot kill. Magazine sticks out the side. 4 rounds. 50 caliber. Hmmmmm, this seems awfully familiar to a sniper rifle in another EA game.
They should do what they did for bfV that I really liked. Where you can't ads unless you're laying down or mounted.
Hard to say what balance is. A slow rechamber time. Slow ADS speed. High idle sway when standing. But if you do too much, it would be useless. There will definitely be a meta surrounding this weapon unless something is done to tweak it.
“Fresh gameplay” never sounded so fresh
Good:
1 shot kill:
-If you don't miss
-If they don't have armor on
-If they are within 100 meters
Bad:
Long reload
Long bolt-action animation
Bad ammo economy
To be fair the NTW does fire a 20mm or 14.5mm shell in real life so I would guess it makes powder out of anything that's not made of metal. It's also a level 60 unlock so it's not like everyone and their brother is gonna be running around with it.
"hey have you seen that game apex, let's put a sniper that's totally not a rip off of the kraber in our game" - DICE probably
That's what happen when you have Vince Zampella as your dev
A true battlefielder... 10 people around that need meds and just continues on his merry way, only to use them on himself haha
"One shot within 100 metres.....at any range"?? ...What? 100 metres IS THE range! haha
What platform are you running the game on?